BirdLover.
Im pretty sure i can whip up a routine on the spot, entertainment is my goal in life.

SOUTH LAKES IS HELPING!!!

Emily Wrote:
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> I dont hesitate to continue long term prejudices
> based on both racial and socio-economic
> misconceptions that are completely opinionated and
> spoon-fed to me by my parents and peers, thus
> proving the absurdity of the argument i provide! I
> prefer not to consider the reality that my parents
> and friends are bigots, instead i try to justify
> my irrational fear and hatred towards South Lakes
> Sucks School (get it, it sucks!) on supposed
> violence, academics, and drugs! Its totally
> awesome because even though my accusations cant be
> justified by facts, all i have to do is produce an
> element of doubt that cant be un-proved!
> TeeHee!!!! Manipulating parent's concern for their
> children to make sure that i can stay on the JV
> cheer leading squad at my rich, affluent high
> school is fun! South lakes sucks lolololol!!!!!
>
> ttyl, Emily

Hands down, best post of the day!!! Absolutely brilliant.

TTYL

>>>>I personally know Jeff, and he is a good student, and a fantastic dancer.<<<

Bless his heart. I bet he's a great dresser too, with a fun personality.

I'm sure that everyone just loves him. :)

My best to Jeffy in all his future endeavors.

Seriously, I wish all you kids well and I'm glad you like your school.

SLHS Contra-Slander wrote:

"As for those of you that believe South Lakes is a hub for low-income families who can't afford to send their students anywhere else, what ever made you think they didn't want their kids at South Lakes? My mom is a teacher at a private school, and my younger brother goes to that private school. She absolutely wants to send him to South Lakes when he's old enough."


___________________________________________________

Why is your brother going to private school? Why isn't he in one of the elementary or middle schools there in Reston?

This wouldn't have anything to do with that story that surface awhile back about the pimps, now would it?

Watching the Discussion Wrote:
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> Less obtuse. Here's the guts.
> ----------------
> In response to comments from the first town
> meeting on November 12, 2007, changes have been
> made to the town meeting process. In order to
> gather feedback from members of the community in
> the most efficient and effective way, participants
> at the town hall meeting will be directed to one
> of several small group sessions. If the total
> number of participants exceeds the space in the
> small group session rooms, participants will be
> able to go to one of several larger rooms. At the
> beginning of the meeting, there will be brief
> opening comments and a presentation of scenarios
> that will be video- and audiostreamed into each
> small and large meeting area. The presentation
> will also address the most frequently asked
> questions about the scenarios that were submitted
> electronically and will provide answers to those
> questions.
>
> Once the presentation is complete, participants
> will be able to share their opinions. In the small
> meeting rooms, facilitators will be available to
> record comments. In the large rooms, attendees
> will be able to record their comments in writing.
> All comments will then be posted in the gallery
> walk area where they can be viewed and read by all
> attendees.
>
> All public comments will be carefully read and
> considered by staff members prior to the final
> boundary town meeting on December 19, 2007.
>
> The changes will be in place for the remaining
> town hall meetings in this boundary study.

This means there will be no large public gathering - attendees will immediately proceed to assigned rooms. The proposed scenarios will be available on-line prior to the meeting. What does that mean? At 5:30 pm get a seat at the closest WiFi Starbucks? Given the video streaming why make everyone drive to Westfield? Didn't they cut a portion of a school board meeting tape when Gibson negotiated another contract for Domenech without telling Brickner? Dr. D then shortly departed for a job selling text books to schools.

Westfield is about 13.5 miles from North Reston. I noticed that very few school board members attended the first meeting. Jane Strauss? IMHO every single one of them should have been there. Someone posted earlier about locals domiciled in or near Reston - Team Lake Anne [Gibson, Dale, then Gibbs?, Hanley], Team Forest Edge [Howell, Hudgins], Team Hunter Mill [ with Wolfe ]. Then there are most likely some current or ex-NFLers in places like Oakton/Herndon/etc.

The line of scrimmage. Imagine an FCPS style state of the schools meeting for the Lake Anne attendance area.

My brother goes to private school because my mother teaches there and it's more convenient for her to be able to just take him to school with her in the morning. He's going to attend Langston Hughes next year once he's in 7th grade. He attended Terraset before my mom started working at the other school.

Well lets just continue to spew hateful remarks that undermines our ability to have a knowledgeable, effective discussion, shall we?

I decided to register my name so people like Muse won't be able to act like the ass she is. So sorry muse, your school sucks. Everyone knows it and so do you.

SOUTH LAKES SUCKS

SOUTH LAKES SUCKS

SLHS Contra-Slander

"My brother goes to private school because my mother teaches there and it's more convenient for her to be able to just take him to school with her in the morning. He's going to attend Langston Hughes next year once he's in 7th grade. He attended Terraset before my mom started working at the other school."

_________________________

Sorry, sweetie, doesn't pass the smell test.

TeeHee! I totally dont understand the irony of what i just said!!! ROFL!!!

Emily Wrote:
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> I decided to register my name so people like Muse
> won't be able to act like the ass she is. So
> sorry muse, your school sucks. Everyone knows it
> and so do you.
>
> SOUTH LAKES SUCKS
>
> SOUTH LAKES SUCKS

What are you talking about?

ok, seriously you sick bird loving ignoramous, forcefully having your way with birds is animal cruelty! stop it or i'll call PETA

yeah, dont get mad at muse. that was me translating your 6th grade vocab into what your really saying

Don't call me sweetie.

What exactly are you insinuating? Are you a parent? If you are, you'll know convenience when you have a full-time job is of the utmost importance. I'm not going to argue with you over why my brother attends private school. Is that really an issue? Why don't you try and focus on topics that are actually relevant instead of analyzing everything I've said trying to discredit me.

Thanks.

Emily Wrote:
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> I decided to register my name so people like Muse
> won't be able to act like the ass she is. So
> sorry muse, your school sucks. Everyone knows it
> and so do you.
>
> SOUTH LAKES SUCKS
>
> SOUTH LAKES SUCKS

Thanks for summing up what the school board has implicitly communicated to the general public about South Lakes [and Herndon]. To spend millions concurrent with this boundary process really means they are regarded as non-viable alternatives for any residence currently assigned to Langley.

BirdLover Wrote:
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> SLHS Contra-Slander
>
> "My brother goes to private school because my
> mother teaches there and it's more convenient for
> her to be able to just take him to school with her
> in the morning. He's going to attend Langston
> Hughes next year once he's in 7th grade. He
> attended Terraset before my mom started working at
> the other school."
>
> _________________________
>
> Sorry, sweetie, doesn't pass the smell test.


Jesus, BirdLover. You wouldn't know truth if it hit you in your martini glass. You and your pal, HokieFan42- the Human coffee break, make quite a pair.

Do you want social security numbers and birthdays?

taxpayer Wrote:
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> Emily Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I decided to register my name so people like
> Muse
> > won't be able to act like the ass she is. So
> > sorry muse, your school sucks. Everyone knows
> it
> > and so do you.
> >
> > SOUTH LAKES SUCKS
> >
> > SOUTH LAKES SUCKS
>
> Thanks for summing up what the school board has
> implicitly communicated to the general public
> about South Lakes . To spend millions concurrent
> with this boundary process really means they are
> regarded as non-viable alternatives for any
> residence currently assigned to Langley.

Nice, taxpayer, encouraging a half-literate gutter-mouthed child with a an ugly and mean-spirited view of the world. Perhaps the school board is implicitly communicating that folks in your neck of the woods need to get out of your homogeneous world more.

SLHS Padre Wrote:
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> BirdLover Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SLHS Contra-Slander
> >
> > "My brother goes to private school because my
> > mother teaches there and it's more convenient
> for
> > her to be able to just take him to school with
> her
> > in the morning. He's going to attend Langston
> > Hughes next year once he's in 7th grade. He
> > attended Terraset before my mom started working
> at
> > the other school."
> >
> > _________________________
> >
> > Sorry, sweetie, doesn't pass the smell test.
>
>
> Jesus, BirdLover. You wouldn't know truth if it
> hit you in your martini glass. You and your pal,
> HokieFan42- the Human coffee break, make quite a
> pair.
>
> Do you want social security numbers and birthdays?

Padre, glad you're back. Feathers are flying around here, what with Birdlover, Emily (registered), and Neen (yes she is here) trashing every SL parent and student posting here. HokieFan24 occasionally checks in when he is not working, and VaDriver thinks I am a County rep. People sure are 'flighty.'

JaZZy Jeff,

Glad you're up for this. I, too, love entertainment.


RE: "entertainment is my goal in life"

Great goal, but a tough one.

>>>In order to
> gather feedback from members of the community in
> the most efficient and effective way, participants
> at the town hall meeting will be directed to one
> of several small group sessions. If the total
> number of participants exceeds the space in the
> small group session rooms, participants will be
> able to go to one of several larger rooms. At the
> beginning of the meeting, there will be brief
> opening comments and a presentation of scenarios
> that will be video- and audiostreamed into each
> small and large meeting area. The presentation
> will also address the most frequently asked
> questions about the scenarios that were submitted
> electronically and will provide answers to those
> questions.<<<

What total BS!!!!

At the first meeting, Stu and Kathy refused to address the audience or answer any questions, NOW, staff is doing the same. There will be no group meeting, and no staff member will answer any questions. Divide and conquer. We can watch staff on television. Why do the bother with this charade? Do they really think we'll believe that they care one bit what any of us say? If they did care, AT ALL, they would address what EVERY group said at the first meeting, ALL 51 groups said that they wanted Langley included in the study AND they wanted a magnet considered. Staff is ignoring both of those and moving on as if the public had said nothing. They're doing just what they would have done with NO first meeting, presenting two or three scenarios for the public to write about.

If they cared AT ALL, they would have a group meeting and allow people to ask questions. They don't care, they're going to do what they always planned to do.

They won't even address the public face to face! This is really outrageous!

I would urge everyone to go to the meeting and refuse to choose a scenario. Refuse to send ANYONE to South Lakes. Refuse to say ANYTHING positive about ANY scenario. Tell them in the small groups that there is nothing positive about ANY of their little plans. Let them know how outrageous this is. They can't say they want our input and refuse to allow anyone to address them! Who the hell do they think they are?! And how dumb do they think we are to buy any of this? They're going to do exactly what they always planned to do. They had hoped to steer us into supporting them, so they could claim that the community chose who to send to South Lakes, but it's not working out that way for them. The community just isn't as dumb as staff had assumed.

As a South Lakes High School senior, I have heard a plethora of arguments from both sides of the redistricting debate ranging from the absurd to reasonable. Its impossible not to, with web sites like stoprd.org and keepoakton.org proliferating a campaign of fear, resentment, and ignorance amongst otherwise tolerant and well intentioned parents. I have witnessed my neighbors and friends in near by school districts turn their otherwise latent prejudices towards my school into a full on attack directed towards me, my peers, and the excellent faculty of SLHS.

As a current South Lakes senior the redistricting will have no effect on me whatsoever, seeing as I will be long gone at college by the time it goes into effect. Opinions aside, I am only posting this comment out of my respect for the South Lakes community and my disgust for the adults and adolescents who have recently shown their true colors.

Despite the heinous behavior you have displayed in this forum and elsewhere, I still have faith that I can reach you with a simple request on the grounds of human decency and reason.

Please do not vent your frustrations and anger with the redistricting on the students, parents, and faculty of South Lakes. Go ahead and write an angry letter to your congressman or school board advisor arguing your point instead of yelling and bickering at children. I can promise you that you will accomplish a lot more towards your cause by taking some positive form of action than by greatly upsetting innocent children.

On November 12, 2007
Neen Wrote:
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> I wasn't at the meeting but I hear that the school
> board members refused to answer any questions
> directed toward them? Why the hell not? Who do
> they work for? They need to take some
> responsibility for the mess they've made.
>
> I also heard that there was quite a police
> presence.

I saw 3 officers.

That tells me that staff and school
> board knew how contentious this issue would be,
> yet they refuse to retreat, not an inch. They
> won't consider ANYTHING that the people want.
> Disgusting.

So Neen wasn't at the meeting, but tonight she writes like an eye witness. I'll bet she doesn't show up at the next meeting either. She lives in the heart of Vienna and is not affected by this in the least, yet she continues to agitate against South Lakes and Reston. I have to wonder why?

Thanks Warren. Better advice has never been given.

I say we just settle this whole dispute the honorable way. Bare knuckle boxing

Padre wrote:

"Jesus, BirdLover. You wouldn't know truth if it hit you in your martini glass."
_______________________________

Ok, now this makes me sad. Padre, I thought you and I were friends... amigos, simpatico.

Now, you go telling everyone about our little tryst and the martinis. And, then, if that weren't bad enough, you use the Lord's name in vain, right in front of me.

Jesus Mary Joseph!!

passive agression is fun!

South Lakes Students,
YOUR does NOT mean YOU ARE. You're does. PLEASE, try to use it correctly.

Warren, you're a GT kid who should know better.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2007 11:51PM by Neen.

I personally think that giving into the anti-redistricting demands would be against the basic democratic principles of equality and justice. By preventing an otherwise necessary redistricting on any superfluous grounds such as "school pride" shows blatant favoritism.

Muse,
You can BET that I will be at the next meeting, supporting the community that is being used. I would hope that people would do the same for my school if they saw something this wrong being done to them.

Staff thinks this community is so dumb, they can use them, without even speaking to them! Fat chance.

my bad neen, i guess that single error de-bunked my argument and made it impossible for you to conceive anything that i was trying to say.

Warren,
You are being wacky. Since you go to South Lakes, you don't have any idea how American democracy is supposed to work.

Does your mom know that you are still awake? Doesn't she have to get up to drive you to school tomorrow? I'm sure MA won't appreciate having to get up early only to have to drag your butt out of bed.

Go to bed and let the grownups talk now. Shoo!

Warren,
It's not just you who doesn't know the difference between your and you're, it's every kid here from South Lakes. It gets annoying. I am not dismissing your arguments because of poor grammar. You can't help it that FCPS doesn't teach grammar or spelling. I am dismissing your points because you are a kid who likes his school. It doesn't really add anything to the discussion.

way to justify your argument there. oh, and i'm 18 so i have no 'bedtime' and i drive myself to school. I also resent you belittling my argument based on my age.

any you are a parent who does not like my school. Your just as opinionated and decided on the issue as i am. Neither of us are going to be able to convince one another I'm sure but we can at least respect one another ideas and beliefs for what they are, not how their spelled

OH well, Warren. You'll just have to put on your big boy pants and cope.

I can continue to "annoy" you as long as i wish, this is an open forum. If you want to talk to your anti-redistricting cronies about how right you are go to stoprd or some other web site of that sort

Fine, continue to belittle me, it only undermines any moral standing you have left while proving the point i made earlier.

Warren,
THEIR does NOT mean THEY ARE. They're does. You might want to study the difference between their, they're, and there, before you take the SAT writing test. I am assuming that you are applying to college this year. Also look at your and you're.

All of you South Lakes students need to learn grammar and punctuation and how to write coherently.

You should know that you and the other South Lakes kids, aren't exactly impressing parents with the education you are getting at your school. I don't meant to insult all of you, but your writing is just not impressive. None of you seem to have taken any grammar or writing courses. You are not reassuring out of boundary parents that their children will be well taught at South Lakes. I thought the IB program taught students to write. I'm not seeing any evidence of that here.

No grammar or writing courses? another one of your endless made up facts that no one bothers to check.
i am in IB English 2 Higher level and have written 2 1500 word IB assessments that have been sent abroad to be graded alongside the work of students from all over the globe. I have written another 1500 word IB internal assessment for IB History 2 HL and am working on another 1500 word assessment for IB Math Studies. Not to mention 4 years of intensive literary analysis in my English classes. I and others in the IB program are far more prepared for the college world than students who take AP which relies entirely on testing.

i see entirely through you. you just sit there on you little office chair typing away broad accusations that cant be entirely proved or disproved, thus creating an element of doubt that you exploit. All you need to do is plant in the minds of others the ideas that SL is violent and inadequate academically. once that seed of doubt is planted in the mind and nourished by a parents' concern for their child and their preexisting prejudice against minorities and low income families its too late to get through to them with reason. they have already made up their minds

how can you refute something that does not exist?you cant.

thats how you and the movement you represent operate

and with that, i'm out.

As an Oakton senior, I, too, have read copious postings, replete with arguments from both sides of this contentious issue. Wacky, you are correct when you so eloquently express the quandary in which so many of our parents find themselves as they research this volatile subject.

I, like you, have witnessed parents and friends as they have allowed their latent prejudices regarding my school and neighborhood manifest into horrific attacks on us. True, you and I won't bear the burden of this redistricting agenda, and I, like you, am only posting out of my respect for my community...........................

And my total disgust for the moronic, idiotic, pathetic, arrogant South Lakes parents who have been posting here, showing their true colors.

And, yes, Wacky, despite the vindictive, boorish and uncivilized way in which the South Lakes parents have conducted themselves in this forum, I would like to believe that I, too, can make a difference.

So to all South Lakes parents, I ask the following: Each and every one of you must look into his or her soul, and then into the mirror, and ask the following question: Why am I hurting the children? Why am I hurting those little innocent children? Why?

Wacky Warren Wrote:
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>... ideas that SL is violent and
> inadequate academically once that seed of doubt
> is planted in the mind and nourished by a parents'
> concern for their child and their preexisting
> prejudice against minorities and low income
> families its too late to get through to them with
> reason...
That was the intention of my comment on board members exacerbating negative perceptions of specifc schools. What are pupil teacher ratios in higher level IB classes?

Muse, Wacky, Casual, Exodus, padre, Submissive not and any ohters here.


I have a word of advice for you.

South Lakes already has a rotten reputation. Now you start referring to sexual relations with animals. Do you really think this helps us.
You are now losing the only support you had. You make us look like disgusting pigs. You are sabotaging our efforts. Why?

Muse is an asshole.
Wacky Warren is a big jerk.
Submissive WiiRNot is a big f'ing liar.

I can't believe that the school board would go to this amount of trouble to get some stupid redistricting thing past. It's true what I'm hearing being said, this is worse than the Mob trying to make you pay for garbage collection.

You South Lakes people, or person or maybe you are two or three people, whatever, you are bad people. You are very bad. Still, even if you are like the Mob, you're worse, because you are pretending to care about us, the mob is more honest than you asshole sick South Lakes parents here.
Your school sucks so big now it can't get any bigger. Go flush yourselves down
the toilet.

I doubt that one grammatical error makes Warren's writing incoherent, unless you have some literacy issues. We are all intelligent students, despite whatever our few grammatical errors might ensue. You insulting us for trying to defend what little we have left to fight for is low. It is impossible to please you all. If we write well, we're parents, if we make one mistake in grammar, you chastise us and insult our education. I am proud of the education I have received at South Lakes and I consider myself to be intelligent.

Your arguments are degrading and invalid. Very few take the time to attempt to see any other sides to the issue. You think that because we're kids, we're incapable of participating in a positive way to this forum. Don't talk down to us. We obviously have opinions just like you. It would be nice if you could have a little respect and stop personally attacking anyone brave enough to share their opinion. Picking apart every post for grammatical errors in no way invalidates an argument and pointing it out is unnecessary. This forum isn't about grammar. Is it possible for you to attempt to have a civil discussion without making it your personal mission to discredit every student or parent advocating South Lakes? We can't do anything about the county's decision, so stop putting the blame on the students and parents. We don't "want" your kids any more than you want them here.


Emily, please refrain from the conversation until you have a legitimate argue. You're making a fool of yourself.

SLHS Contra-Slander Wrote:
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> Emily,
>
> This is my first time posting on this site because
> I only discovered it today in my political science
> class.

At the first town hall meeting, we were told that we need to do this redistricting because SL is too small to offer Political Science as an elective. Ummm......

pop Wrote:
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> SLHS Contra-Slander Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Emily,
> >
> > This is my first time posting on this site
> because
> > I only discovered it today in my political
> science
> > class.
>
> At the first town hall meeting, we were told that
> we need to do this redistricting because SL is too
> small to offer Political Science as an elective.
> Ummm......


Never happened. Check your notes.

Sweet Louise Wrote:
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> As an Oakton senior, I, too, have read copious
> postings, replete with arguments from both sides
> of this contentious issue. Wacky, you are correct
> when you so eloquently express the quandary in
> which so many of our parents find themselves as
> they research this volatile subject.
>
> I, like you, have witnessed parents and friends as
> they have allowed their latent prejudices
> regarding my school and neighborhood manifest into
> horrific attacks on us. True, you and I won't bear
> the burden of this redistricting agenda, and I,
> like you, am only posting out of my respect for my
> community...........................
>
> And my total disgust for the moronic, idiotic,
> pathetic, arrogant South Lakes parents who have
> been posting here, showing their true colors.
>
> And, yes, Wacky, despite the vindictive, boorish
> and uncivilized way in which the South Lakes
> parents have conducted themselves in this forum, I
> would like to believe that I, too, can make a
> difference.
>
> So to all South Lakes parents, I ask the
> following: Each and every one of you must look
> into his or her soul, and then into the mirror,
> and ask the following question: Why am I hurting
> the children? Why am I hurting those little
> innocent children? Why?


Earth to BirdLover:

You are not funny, no matter what name you use. You can take off the wig, now.

"South Lakes Students,
YOUR does mean YOU ARE. You're does. PLEASE, try to use it correctly.

Warren, you're a GT kid who should know better."

Neen,
Correcting grammar has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. This is an online forum. People who generally chat on blogs or forums such as this one do not constantly use correct grammar.
This does not mean that while we are formally writing an essay or any other type of word document that we do not "know" the proper grammar.
The students at SLHS are extremely bright and well educated. Thanks to our phenomenal teachers, we are just as informed, if not more, as any other kid at any other Fairfax County school.
I would also like to add that you, Neen, have typed multiple grammar and spelling errors in your post including the ones you write criticizing student's grammar.
For example, in the post I mentioned above, you stated: "YOUR does mean YOU ARE." I believe you meant YOUR does NOT mean YOU ARE.
So, perhaps in the future you can focus more on the ideas and truth that we are trying to convey rather than avoid it and use things such as spelling mistakes and grammar to belittle us and avoid admitting that some of your outrageous statements are untruthful and rude.

I would just like to adress this site one more time before I rip out my hair and puke in disqust of the posts your supposedly "great" side has written.

NOT ONCE, have I ever called anyone out on these posts but maybe the time has come because I no longer see any such way of reaching your attention. You ignore our efforts sadly and because of such you will never truly understand the significance of a school such as South Lakes and what role it plays in a great community like Reston.

Do you fight the redistricting because you are afraid of us, or perhaps because you fear that after the transtion it will be South Lakes that emerges as the "elite school" as you put it? With the fancy education that many of you are recieving I hoped that you might be open to a transition, a change, a new atmosphere. But I was wrong, boy was I wrong.

It is people like Emily who give South Lakes the label it has. People who do not want to change, or moreso people who will never change. I have witnessed some of the harshest attacks against children I have ever seen in my life on this forum, and all at the hands of the other side. Homophobic remarks, hatred against students, and name-trashing to say the least. It is dissapointing that my name has been trashed as well, simply because I might possess a better vocabulary then the rest of you. Yes I am a student at South Lakes, yes I am a very smart young woman, and yes I know I am a fantastic writer. The time for modesty has evidently come and gone, simply like the manners have on this board as well.

I have never truly been so disqusted in my life. This one-sided forum is dissapointing because it truly shows the people that would unfortunatly join us if the redistricting took place. For such a supposedly good area that Oakton and Westfield are they sure have some very pushy people who are not aware of other people and the feelings others may have on the same subject.

And Emily, I simply have one thing to say to you. For someone who calls South Lakes out on their bad manners and bad mouths you have cussed and used a fair amount of bad language yourself. Maybe something you want to think about. And for the rest of you who think my posts are simply "LONNNNNNGGGG BORRRRRINGGGG ATTEMPTS" to gain compliments on my style of writing, think again. I already have a great amount of compliments from my teachers and peers who are fine writers themselves and a great judge of character.

So now I will end my post. I won't continue on to mention the rascism, false facts, and false hope I have seen in other posts. I hope that many like me will realize this is a lost battle. These people do not care about us, and many have at least had the decency to admit it. "Close down the school!" Great idea, we just pumped 51 million dollars into a school that we should now close. Most of you are not open to change and for this I truly am sorry, maybe one day South Lakes will earn the respect and recognition it truly deserves. We are a fine group of students and a fine group of people. We will go on to great things after high school, and I look forward to working with others in my life who are open to change and new experiences.

But hey, theres always basketball season to win those games huh?

-A South Lakes Student

Hi,
as I've read some of these posts on this website I became very disturbed. There are many misinterpretations about my school, South Lakes. I don't understand why many people get the assumption that South Lakes is a "gangster school"...just because we have children of all different ethnic backgrounds, races, and a wide range of students from different incomes does not mean we are a horrible school. Robert E. Simon built Reston on a dream that all different kinds of people can grow together in one community and live and learn. Some of these posts epitomize the ignorance, bigotry, and predjudice in our community. I understand for many of you this is not the case, you just simply want your child to attend a your community's school. To be completely honest, I'm not all so thrilled about having rich, preppy, snobby pricks at my school, but hey if it must be done...I guess it must be done..


oh and IB is much much more rigorous than AP....its INTERNATIONAL...IB is a european system...I come from europe...everyone over there knows that Americans are not the brightest people in the world...oh and wait...isn't AP american? hmm

peace

taxpayer Wrote:
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>
> This means there will be no large public gathering
> - attendees will immediately proceed to assigned
> rooms. The proposed scenarios will be available
> on-line prior to the meeting. What does that
> mean? At 5:30 pm get a seat at the closest WiFi
> Starbucks? Given the video streaming why make
> everyone drive to Westfield? Didn't they cut a
> portion of a school board meeting tape when Gibson
> negotiated another contract for Domenech without
> telling Brickner? Dr. D then shortly departed for
> a job selling text books to schools.
>
> Westfield is about 13.5 miles from North Reston.
> I noticed that very few school board members
> attended the first meeting. Jane Strauss? IMHO
> every single one of them should have been there.
> Someone posted earlier about locals domiciled in
> or near Reston - Team Lake Anne , Team Forest Edge
> , Team Hunter Mill [ with Wolfe ]. Then there are
> most likely some current or ex-NFLers in places
> like Oakton/Herndon/etc.
>
> The line of scrimmage. Imagine an FCPS style
> state of the schools meeting for the Lake Anne
> attendance area.
______________________________________________________________________________
Taxpayer,
Thanks for the sum up. We've needed a translator to get through all the County gobbledygook.

Remember the last meeting...the audio went dead in the feed to the overflow 1000 in the cafeteria and the video was focused on the person doing sign language. So, for about 3 minutes, we watched signing. Now, that was pathetic..

Then another special moment...two county spanish interpetors saved seats for any Hispanic needing translating. Even though citizens arrived early for the meeting, the "best seats" were being saved for late comers needing translation. No one arrived for the translators...not a one.....soon, they gave up the seats.

This Dec 3rd Meeting....."The Gibson Busing Plan"

The County is afraid of its citizens. Mommys, Daddys,kids...they are afraid of us.

Why else would they want to rapidly divide us? Its crowd control. And, they'll probably insert a few under covers into the groups to steer the discussion. Maybe they'll even "pluck" a few of us out of the crowd to interview....that would be Birdlover, Neen, Muse, Casual Observer, Submissive, me etc...make us disappear.

Dictator Gibson does not want us to assemble.

They are going to "manage" us...

March us into little rooms with moderators who sound like they've taken too many psychology classes.

What will they do next...add some Nitrous Oxide to the air vents so we all begin to sound like we are in One flew over the Cookoos nest? Pipe in some elevator music. Maybe I should stop giving them ideas. Who knows what they're capable of doing???

What are the weenies afraid of? Verbal confrontation? This population is filled with law abiding citizens...with the exception of South Lakes...Yes, that was gratuitous and unneccesary so SL's save your boring lectures.

Is the County afraid of Media coverage?
Note to VaDriver: Bring video camera. Opps...now they'll be searching us.

I think I know how Jack Nickolson felt. This is completely loony.

Emily:

Did you put that dent in the Lexus? I already have to drive the minivan b/c u crashed the Range Rover. That's your fourth accident this year.

It's probably cause you play Kanye so d*** loud.

And who is that guy in all the pics on the digicam....JazzyJeff? Have you been spying on the SL Hip Hop dance team again? I swear, girl, you are swoonin'!! Auntie Neen will kill you if she ever finds out that you got a thing for that Seahawks boy.

Mom, Dad and the GrandPs all SUCK...don't they? I say, I heard that, girlfriend.

TTYL

Your luvvin bro', Chance IV

PS: Can I use your debit card? Mine is in time-out.

Stephy,
Thats quite a nice kitchen you got for $51M. Were they able to purchase any beads for the jewelry making elective? I hope you enjoy paying for it over your lifetime. Your idea of closing the school down and selling the land would more than make up for the money thats been wasted there.

Message to the following South Lakes Students.

Your first class begins at 7:20 AM, yet,

Katy posts at 8:03AM

Stephanie posts at 8:11AM

SLHS posts at 8:22AM

Emily's Lil Bro Posts at 8:58AM

Are your teachers giving you extra credit for these postings?

And,are you completely unsupervised at South Lakes High School?

Is this a school project approved by your Principal?

I have to wonder VaDriver, Birdlover, Neen, etc. if you would be proud to show your own children the things you have written, and particularly to other children, on this site. I have never seen such a group of vindictive, petty, and thoroughly uncurious adults as you. Instead of engaging with others, you choose to criticize and berate them. Instead of answering their very valid and may I say well-written questions and arguments with facts and data, you go on the attack. Neen resorts to critiquing their grammar, rather ineffectively, I might add, yet ignores the most poorly written and vulgar posts of all, those of Emily. Now why is that? Oh, I guess it is because she is on Neen's side. So the grammar is not really the important thing after all. It is making sure to knock down the poster and try to invalidate them personally while ignoring what they say. For someone who purports to be a conservative it's interesting that Neen employs one of Stalin's most favorite tricks - attack the messenger and thus avoid having to engage.

I hope you are proud of your posts. Right now I am compiling some of them that I may introduce in my little breakout group at the next public meeting. I will also have some of the very articulate South Lakes students with me and they are proof enough that South Lakes is a good school. I will match them against you or your kind in a public debate any day and can say with confidence that they would mop the floor with all of you.

I am personally glad that VaDriver thinks he is insulated from having to move to South Lakes. Neen's children are graduated and she lives in Vienna, so we are safe from her. I don't know about Birdlover, but she says her two daughters are already at Oakton, so they will surely stay there. I guess I can breath a sigh of relief that at least I am spared from having to interact personally with them.

VaDriver Wrote:
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> Message to the following South Lakes Students.
>
> Your first class begins at 7:20 AM, yet,
>
> Katy posts at 8:03AM
>
> Stephanie posts at 8:11AM
>
> SLHS posts at 8:22AM
>
> Emily's Lil Bro Posts at 8:58AM
>
> Are your teachers giving you extra credit for
> these postings?
>
> And,are you completely unsupervised at South Lakes
> High School?
>
> Is this a school project approved by your
> Principal?


If, as Birdlover says, they are all adults posting as children, then your questions are really moot, aren't they?

thanks SubmissiveWiiRNot...its nice to know that at least someone other than the south lakes students on this page are sensible, I apreciate your support. It's really sad that the parents are bashing students, what is this world coming to? Parents, who are supposed to be the most civil or rational are bashing south lakes students as if we're some sort of hoodlems. You don't know enough about South Lakes to talk...you really don't. We're not the ones in charge of this re-districting, if it were up to me I would not want your stuck-up children attending my school. But I gues you can call me an optimist, I try to make the best out of things. We're informing the parents, letting them know the real South Lakes, the South Lakes I've learned to love. I don't even want to imagine what kind of person I would be if I went to Madison or Oakton. I too have heard many not so great things about your schools, like your students do coke because, well they have that kind of money and yet we don't base our opinions on what we hear, we base our opinions on the way you all act and the way you ignorantly judge us..

TO VA Driver,

Yep, you're right, the South Lakes kids are being allowed, and probably encouraged to post during school hours. How pathetic. I just called the school and received the usual denial in perfect newspeak. Unbelievable.

BirdLuvva:

You clearly are against civil discourse, but are you also opposed to free speech, as endowed by Constitution and our Creator?

What are you scared of? You don't rebut people, you just whine and slime (pitifully, I might add).

You are getting whupped, ol' Bird. And you're still painfully unfunny. Keep talking.

At SLHS, we have access to the Internet, so we can post here or look at MySpace or YouTube or other things. We have a right to be herd.

Interesting info regarding the county's new plan for Monday's meeting. So, they are going to skip the community meeting entirely and instead divide everyone up into little groups with the facilitators and Nurse Ratcheds.

The county is afraid of an open forum. They want to control us, to handle us.

They want to hurd us like sheep into little rooms, where they will then attempt to stifle free speech. We, sitting like children, while Nurse Ratched stands in front. And, ofcourse, there will be the 'planted' parents in each room who will ask those 'good' questions.

I say, we resist the Nazi-like techniques. When we arrive on Monday, and are given our assignments to the controlled chambers, I say, RIP THEM UP.

We will all meet in the gym and the auditorium and the halls and the cafeteria and wherever we can stay together as a large group or groups. Even if it means we are standing outside in the cold.

Don't let them divide us. Rip up the STUpid room assignments and exercise our right to free assembly and free speech.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2007 11:25AM by BirdLover.

Kate, Warren, Steph, Roya, Jeff and Caroline -

I would like to compliment all of you on your postings. Thank you for defending your school. It's a shame that this entire process has placed the students of SL on the defensive. I am proud of all of you and impressed you haven't tried to speak poorly of other schools, only defend your own.

Don't let the others on this message board break your spirit. Don't buy into the negative comments and start to attack others. This is what they want so don't get into the mud with them.

I know all of you and you are great students!

BirdLover Wrote:
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> TO VA Driver,
>
> Yep, you're right, the South Lakes kids are being
> allowed, and probably encouraged to post during
> school hours. How pathetic. I just called the
> school and received the usual denial in perfect
> newspeak. Unbelievable.

I thought you said I and other adults were posing as SL students. If that's so, there really isn't a problem with the timing of the posts, is there?

Posted by: BirdLover (IP Logged)
Date: November 27, 2007 11:21AM


Interesting info regarding the county's new plan for Monday's meeting. So, they are going to skip the community meeting entirely and instead divide everyone up into little groups with the facilitators and Nurse Ratcheds.

The county is afraid of an open forum. They want to control us, to handle us.

They want to hurd us like sheep into little rooms, where they will then attempt to stifle free speech. We, sitting like children, while Nurse Ratched stands in front. And, ofcourse, there will be the 'planted' parents in each room who will ask those 'good' questions.

I say, we resist the Nazi-like techniques. When we arrive on Monday, and are given our assignments to the controlled chambers, I say, RIP THEM UP.

We will all meet in the gym and the auditorium and the halls and the cafeteria and wherever we can stay together as a large group or groups. Even if it means we are standing outside in the cold.

Don't let them divide us. Rip up the STUpid room assignments and exercise our right to free assembly and free speech.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2007 11:25AM by BirdLover.

VaDriver Wrote:
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> taxpayer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > This means there will be no large public
> gathering
> > - attendees will immediately proceed to
> assigned
> > rooms. The proposed scenarios will be
> available
> > on-line prior to the meeting. What does that
> > mean? At 5:30 pm get a seat at the closest
> WiFi
> > Starbucks? Given the video streaming why make
> > everyone drive to Westfield? Didn't they cut a
> > portion of a school board meeting tape when
> Gibson
> > negotiated another contract for Domenech
> without
> > telling Brickner? Dr. D then shortly departed
> for
> > a job selling text books to schools.
> >
> > Westfield is about 13.5 miles from North Reston.
>
> > I noticed that very few school board members
> > attended the first meeting. Jane Strauss?
> IMHO
> > every single one of them should have been there.
>
> > Someone posted earlier about locals domiciled
> in
> > or near Reston - Team Lake Anne , Team Forest
> Edge
> > , Team Hunter Mill [ with Wolfe ]. Then there
> are
> > most likely some current or ex-NFLers in places
> > like Oakton/Herndon/etc.
> >
> > The line of scrimmage. Imagine an FCPS style
> > state of the schools meeting for the Lake Anne
> > attendance area.
> __________________________________________________
> ____________________________
> Taxpayer,
> Thanks for the sum up. We've needed a translator
> to get through all the County gobbledygook.
>
> Remember the last meeting...the audio went dead
> in the feed to the overflow 1000 in the cafeteria
> and the video was focused on the person doing sign
> language. So, for about 3 minutes, we watched
> signing. Now, that was pathetic..
>
> Then another special moment...two county spanish
> interpetors saved seats for any Hispanic needing
> translating. Even though citizens arrived early
> for the meeting, the "best seats" were being saved
> for late comers needing translation. No one
> arrived for the translators...not a one.....soon,
> they gave up the seats.
>
> This Dec 3rd Meeting....."The Gibson Busing Plan"
>
>
> The County is afraid of its citizens. Mommys,
> Daddys,kids...they are afraid of us.
>
> Why else would they want to rapidly divide us?
> Its crowd control. And, they'll probably insert a
> few under covers into the groups to steer the
> discussion. Maybe they'll even "pluck" a few of us
> out of the crowd to interview....that would be
> Birdlover, Neen, Muse, Casual Observer,
> Submissive, me etc...make us disappear.
>
> Dictator Gibson does not want us to assemble.
>
> They are going to "manage" us...
>
> March us into little rooms with moderators who
> sound like they've taken too many psychology
> classes.
>
> What will they do next...add some Nitrous Oxide to
> the air vents so we all begin to sound like we are
> in One flew over the Cookoos nest? Pipe in some
> elevator music. Maybe I should stop giving them
> ideas. Who knows what they're capable of doing???
>
> What are the weenies afraid of? Verbal
> confrontation? This population is filled with law
> abiding citizens...with the exception of South
> Lakes...Yes, that was gratuitous and unneccesary
> so SL's save your boring lectures.
>
> Is the County afraid of Media coverage?
> Note to VaDriver: Bring video camera. Opps...now
> they'll be searching us.
>
> I think I know how Jack Nickolson felt. This is
> completely loony.


Forget about scattering. Everyone should just march into the big room.

Yeah what is the problem with us posting from school? Your trying to shut us kids up. I found out about this site AT school and I will post here when I want to. Im telling more kids right now. happy?

BirdLover Wrote:
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> Posted by: BirdLover (IP Logged)
> Date: November 27, 2007 11:21AM
>
>
>
> The county is afraid of an open forum. They want
> to control us, to handle us.
>
Of course they do, unlike you, and your bird brained friends, the facilities staff actually cares about ALL the students. That is the job of the staff and the school board in a PUBLIC school system. That want all of Fairfax County schools to succeed. Some of us have said it before, if you don't like the socialist public school system, there's always private school!

Why don't you seem to get it? They don't want to hear Emily's arguments that south lakes sucks or Oakton is ranked better on a newsweek poll. Their JOB is to care about all the schools and to support the education of all the childre - ALL OF THE TAXPAYER's CHILDREN. They don't care where your Susie plays sports and that Johnny will miss his friends.

If you go into these meetings and the January meetings frothing at the mouth, condemning neighboring schools, attacking the school board, do you really think that will entice them to YOUR position?

By all means, try your method, it will only make you look like the jerks that you are and will ensure that you lose -

Read the code - they have the power!

Of course you are proud SL Parent(s). What other choice do you have? Proud for pimping your best students? You should be ashamed of yourselves. Imagine how much better off your children would be IF you had been responsible enough to send them to a private school or move to an area with a good public school. Instead, you've wasted four years of their life.

Leanne Wrote:
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> At SLHS, we have access to the Internet, so we can
> post here or look at MySpace or YouTube or other
> things. We have a right to be herd.



it's HEARD...

and it's also obvious that adults are posting as kids.

FCPS does not give unlimited access to the internet, it's filtered.


but nice try.

fcps parent Wrote:
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> Leanne Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > At SLHS, we have access to the Internet, so we
> can
> > post here or look at MySpace or YouTube or
> other
> > things. We have a right to be herd.
>
>
>
> it's HEARD...
>
> and it's also obvious that adults are posting as
> kids.
>
> FCPS does not give unlimited access to the
> internet, it's filtered.
>
>
> but nice try.



You can't handle the truth (Jack Nicholson, spelled correctly, btw), but the Seahawks kids can't be stifled....sorry. Nice try.

SLParent Wrote:
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> Kate, Warren, Steph, Roya, Jeff and Caroline -
>
> I would like to compliment all of you on your
> postings. Thank you for defending your school.
> It's a shame that this entire process has placed
> the students of SL on the defensive. I am proud of
> all of you and impressed you haven't tried to
> speak poorly of other schools, only defend your
> own.
>
> Don't let the others on this message board break
> your spirit. Don't buy into the negative comments
> and start to attack others. This is what they
> want so don't get into the mud with them.
>
> I know all of you and you are great students!



are you for real? do you honestly expect people to believe that nonsense?





do you seriously think that people will believe your moronic act?


damn, woman.... grow up.

SLHS Wrote:
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> We're not the ones in charge of this
> re-districting, if it were up to me I would not
> want your stuck-up children attending my school.
> But I gues you can call me an optimist, I try to
> make the best out of things. We're informing the
> parents, letting them know the real South Lakes,
> the South Lakes I've learned to love.

All of the South Lakes community is trying to make the best of things.

If others want to know what WE WANT, I'll tell you.

We don't want your kids, we don't care about the free and reduced lunch numbers, or ESOL students. We like our small school.



All we want is adequate resources so that our students have the SAME educational resources as yours.



I think most of us like this solution proposed earlier -

Why not keep all tax receipts generated in Reston, in Reston schools? We'll have a small school population with 5-10 kids per class. Every elective will be offered, in fact, each kid could have their own private teacher.

It's similar to FFX county supplying most of the income towards the commonwealth budget but getting a smaller proportion back in resources. Reston certainly supplies more than our share of tax receipts.

You keep yours, we'll keep ours.

Exodus Wrote:
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> fcps parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Leanne Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > At SLHS, we have access to the Internet, so
> we
> > can
> > > post here or look at MySpace or YouTube or
> > other
> > > things. We have a right to be herd.
> >
> >
> >
> > it's HEARD...
> >
> > and it's also obvious that adults are posting
> as
> > kids.
> >
> > FCPS does not give unlimited access to the
> > internet, it's filtered.
> >
> >
> > but nice try.
>
>
>
> You can't handle the truth (Jack Nicholson,
> spelled correctly, btw), but the Seahawks kids
> can't be stifled....sorry. Nice try.


they can, and are... by FCPS computers and software.


they can not acces websites like this.


you sl parents are pathetic... no wonder no one wants to send their kids to your school

"Forget about scattering. Everyone should just march into the big room."

** I agree with plan to stick together. No divide and conquer strategy should be allowed.

fcps parent Wrote:
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>
>
> they can not acces websites like this.
>
>
> you sl parents are pathetic... no wonder no one
> wants to send their kids to your school

Since you seem duty-bound to correct the grammar and spelling of South Lakes students too, try yours first. Cannot is one word, not two. BTW, I can attest that every one of the 'students' posting is indeed a student. It must be unnerving, though, to know that there are students out there who are smarter than you, and and that they just may attend....South Lakes!

Regarding all the South Lakes kids ???? posting during school hours...

So, all of the kids can post on any sites using FCPS computers Networks during school hours??

Okay....I had no idea!! Thanks for letting us know how things work in South Lakes High School...WOW!

Please continue posting....didn't mean to thwart your free speech...

I agree that you should all stick together, preferably outside. Bring signs and noisemakers, better yet, rotten produce. That will guarantee that your voices will not be included in the civil debates going on in the breakout groups and thus the discourse will be elevated significantly.

Ok,

#1. The fact that the students have the ability to write eloquently is not a basis to accuse us of being parents. Is it really that unbelievable that South Lakes has the capacity to produce well-educated students with a voice? For the record, South Lakes isn't "pimping out" its best students. We have been writing on this forum completely voluntarily. I, and many of my peers, were unaware of the mindless arguing that was occurring on this forum until it was recently introduced to us.

The word is spreading and you can fully expect to be hearing from a lot more of us "pimps." We're not going to apologize for being competent and well-educated. You cannot honestly expect us to allow you to blatantly degrade our school. When you insult our school, you insult us, and we are wonderful students. You don't know us, and you don't know our school. Maybe if you spent less time on the computer arguing your points that make little sense, you could take some time to acquire some real knowledge about our school. Your ignorance does not provide a valid basis for any of your arguments. Stop listening to the rumors and gossip and take some time to hear US. We're the ones who attend South Lakes. We're the ones who actually know what we're talking about.

You have absolutely no right to try and bring us down. If you were placed in our position, how would you feel? How would you react? Oakton parents, if us South Lakes delinquents were openly bashing your school, would you not get defensive?

As for being on during the school day, take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. It's a forum. How is this honestly going to impact the decision of the county? We're posting here in an attempt to show you OUR side of the story, and you're being too hard-headed to listen. We aren't trying to steal your kids, and we aren't trying to discredit you.

If any of you want to put forth some valid facts and arguments about South Lakes, I will gladly discuss it rationally with you. So far, all I've seen our needless call-outs on grammar in attempts to invalidate our arguments. Is that really what this has come to? Please, let's all try and put forth a little maturity.


By the way, I'm at lunch right now, so no need to attack me.
Thank you.

SubmissiveWiiRNot

you got it right. Here I am posting right now so who does that parent think she is anyway -the police. She knows notheing about SL and thanks we are smarter than that witch.

Emily Wrote:
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> SLHS Contra
>
> You and all your other personalities are a riot.
> But do you really think it's not obvious? I mean
> like, how do you really think people are going to
> believe you? Oh, and you just found this site,
> today, in class. You're full of s---.
>
> I don't care who you are, your school still sucks,
> big time. It sucks even bigger than it did
> yesterday.


I must respond. As yet another South Lakes senior, I too encountered this website today-not only in Political Science (with SLHS Contra), but first in my Leadership class.

Side note: The South Lakes Political Science program, by the way, affords seniors the opportunity to examine the political process-and, during the second semester, participate in internships. Just today we learned that students in our class have been offered internships with Senator Hilary Clinton and Congressman Jim Moran. I myself will intern at the Greater Reston Chamber of Commerce, and another student will work with Supervisor Hudgins. These are positions coveted by college students that we, as high school seniors, have managed to obtain. This should suggest something about the caliber of student one is apt to find at South Lakes.

To return to my original point: the fact that the redistricting is part of class discussion-in multiple classes!-is a shining example of the South Lakes way. Our students are asked for input! Not only asked, but responsive. If this is something to fear, so be it.

P.S. Also my lunch period, no need to worry.

spanky Wrote:
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> Of course you are proud SL Parent(s). What other
> choice do you have? Proud for pimping your best
> students? You should be ashamed of yourselves.
> Imagine how much better off your children would be
> IF you had been responsible enough to send them to
> a private school or move to an area with a good
> public school. Instead, you've wasted four years
> of their life.

This forum is here to serve as a tool for Fairfax County citizens to discuss REDISTRICTING... not as a mechanism to bash South Lakes HS.

Instead, you've wasted four years of their life."


I have been following this forum for quite some time now, but I simply cannot hold my tongue any longer. How dare you insinuate that my years at South Lakes have been a "waste". That is by far one of the most ignorant statements I have read. I can guarantee that as a mere senior in high school, I have more eloquence and maturity than you could ever hope to possess. Have you no empathy? Can you begin to imagine what is like for high schoolers to hear, day after day, about the "shit-hole" that their school is? Nobody at SL, not students, teachers, parents, or administration, deserves this kind of immaturity and insensitivity. I would rather be at SL than any other school. We are provided with an excellent education and the unique opportunity to learn from a diverse student body. I pity you if you think otherwise. After all, what is the real world like?

Never in my life have I been more frusterated than as when I am confronted with this redisticting conflict. As a community, we have tried to educate others about the benefits of our school, but it is difficult! When I look at the stubborn posters on this site, I have no doubt that it is people like them who are the very reason that we struggling to build our reputation.

However, I must say in defense of some people that when I attended the last meeting at Chantilly, I was pleased to encounter some very kind parents who asked questions out of genuine concern. The difference between them and some of the people on this forum is that the others were willing to LEARN! For example, the misconceptions about the violence and gang activity is absurd! I am now a senior and have only witnessed a couple of altercations (which I am sure occur all over the county, in all high schools). Not once have I seen anything that would even remotely qualify as gang activity. I have never seen a knife, gun, or other weapon in my school; however, if anything ever were to happen, I have complete faith in saying that administration would be right there to intervene. That is not saying that admins are constantly suspicious, I'm just stating that I feel at complete ease at SL; I have never felt threatened walking down the halls. Perhaps you think that the IB program is bad. Why don't you take some time to research the internationally recognized program or maybe sit in for a class? If the structure does not work for you and your learning style that is a legitimate problem and should be considered. Is that so much to ask? Instead of spreading false information, save yourself and others the worry and just learn the FACTS!

Another thing I would like to say is that the students who have been speaking up and defending our school are legitimate students, I personally know almost all of them. For you to imply that administration tells us to attend the meetings or post on this site is completely ridiculous. If we did not like the school, why would we take our personal time to stand up and speak? If I had a problem with SL, I would be right beside you complaining. I am just so sick and tired of the hate that is vocalized by uneducated adults and students. When I hear the supposed "facts" about SL, I can't help but laugh because if any of you would were to spend even 2 minutes in the hallways or classrooms of our school, I truely believe your perception would turn around immediately.

It is not my intention to bash any other school so I just hope that others will have the same respect and courtesy for me and my school. If you have any questions, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK! I'm sure that any one of us SL students would be more than happy to provide a thorough, intelligent answer.

Thank you,
A Proud Seahawk

As far as students posting during the school day, it is possible that they are in lunch, study hall, the media center, or another place with the internet. In order for students to be on the computer, they must have written permission from a supervisor. Additionally, all social networking sites (Myspace, Facebook, etc) and other inappropriate sites are blocked from access.

Whew, that IB program must be a killer if so many students have the time to generate posts for the forum.

And yes, you did waste four years of your life at South Lakes. My children should have gone there, but unlike your parents, I was concerned about my children's education and sent them to private school. And no, you aren't pimps, you are the hos. Your parents are the pimps. Didn't that event at Langston Hughes teach you fools anything?

Have you been to any other schools besides South Lakes????????? Take a look around. Do you think there's a reason this issue is so heated? And what might that be?

Enjoy your study hall, cooking class, or whatev. Next time the world needs a chef that can write, we'll call you, ok?

It is amazing that these kids have the amount of free time necessary to compose some of these long winded dissertations.

fcps parent Wrote:
>
> are you for real? do you honestly expect people to
> believe that nonsense?
> >
> do you seriously think that people will believe
> your moronic act?
>
>
> damn, woman.... grow up.

I am for real and so are these kids. I don't care if you believe my post or not. It was to encourage the SL kids that are well spoken and have a voice in the process. They have first hand knowledge of the SL environment and would be a good resource for students that could possibly be at SL next year.

Try listening to them. They have the perspective you should be interested in hearing. Unless you have walked in their shoes you don't know what occurs at SL.

Yes, Spanky, I have attended another high school and I participated in the AP program. I am now in the IB program which I find to be much more rigorous and challenging. I don't like what you're insinuating. We aren't the ignorant ones, here.

My mom teaches at a private school, my father is an attorney. I had every opportunity to attend private school and both my parents and I opted for me to attend South Lakes. The curriculum and the atmosphere were just two of many reasons we chose South Lakes. Why don't you take the high road and not participate in mindless gossip?

Your analogy is demeaning and is off color. Originally, you believed that the school was "pimping" us out, now it's the parents? Make up your mind. How dare you insult our parents and call us fools? I think it's pretty apparent that we are the ones who are well-educated and level-headed. I believe you have some growing up to do.

spanky Wrote:
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> Whew, that IB program must be a killer if so many
> students have the time to generate posts for the
> forum.
>
> And yes, you did waste four years of your life at
> South Lakes. My children should have gone there,
> but unlike your parents, I was concerned about my
> children's education and sent them to private
> school. And no, you aren't pimps, you are the
> hos. Your parents are the pimps. Didn't that
> event at Langston Hughes teach you fools
> anything?
>
> Have you been to any other schools besides South
> Lakes????????? Take a look around. Do you think
> there's a reason this issue is so heated? And
> what might that be?
>
> Enjoy your study hall, cooking class, or whatev.
> Next time the world needs a chef that can write,
> we'll call you, ok?

You mean if so many students MAKE the time to DEFEND themselves and their school from uneducated "adults" who apparently have nothing better to do than spread lies and add fuel to the fire by making such ignorant comments? Oh yeah... what stupid, moronic "children".

And to answer your question about attending other schools? Yes. I have. I also have friends and family at many of surrounding schools. Additionally, I have teachers who have taught both AP and IB... they think that the IB program is much more rigorous and beneficial. Instead of rote memorization we learn ABOUT learning and take skills and apply them to other areas of our lives. When is the last time that learning the year WWI began help to approach a physics problem? Oh, that's right it doesn't. But learning how to approach things think critically and abstractly just might be more beneficial in the long run.

I do think there is a reason the the issue is so heated. It's because of people like you who would rather insult the unknown because it's outside their comfort zone than learn to appreciate differences in our common world and community. I feel sorry for you... I don't want or need your "concern". I have received an excellent education. No questions asked.

To what event at LHMS are you referring?

Does anyone have a clue as to which incident this poster is referring? Were cops actually searching kids without a warrant? Why?


Anyway, Whate Oct 15, 2007
Parent wrote:

South Lakes does have gangs. Gang activity is on the rise again in this area. The M-13 is alive and well so get your heads out of the sand.
If this was nothing, why were the cops going around questioning innocent kids on the streets and asking to search them without a warrant? Seems like the cops are into violations as well.

well for some one with their head "out of the sand" you sure dont know much about things seeing as there is no such gang as "M-13" I think you are referring to MS13 but i DONT think its right of you to correct students with first hand knowledge of both the school and the situation when you yourself dont have your information correct. also gangs dont walk around punching every random students especially ms-13 they are smart and level headed when it come to being in public they generally dont go around starting trouble with anyone and everyone they see. they plan out what they do before hand unless they are confronted by a rival gang. the majority of students dont have anything to be worried about unless they are in a gang. its not as if fist fights only break out at south lakes high school. also the job of the police is to find out as best they can what happened and why and to obtain as much detail as posable and if that means questioning "innocent students" so be it. e

I can't say that I am well-versed in the gang activities at South Lakes (if they even exist.) I have never witnessed anything that could even be considered gang activity. I don't doubt that there are gang members, but they're present at every school. It's not a dangerous environment and my safety has never been threatened.

When you have concerns like this, why is it so difficult to rationally discuss it with the students? We're more than willing to deliberate with you over the REAL issues.

SLHS Contra,
I understand. So you couldn't be competetive at the private or AP school. Thats ok - its not for everyone. The world needs folks in the service industry too.

I am taking the high road here by calling out the liars and delusional parents at South Lakes.

I'm glad the students at South Lakes are getting their say in this matter. After all, they will be the ones run over by whomever gets redistricted.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/30/AR2006053001016.html

Can someone help me on this?

I was going to by a house near Oakton, but this worries me. It was in the Washington Post, and I'm sure they got it right.

"The kid, he notes, has been in frequent trouble at school, and is now accused by his ex-girlfriend of threatening to beat up another student. The situation has grown more alarming because suspicion is building that the troubled boy may be associated with a gang and that his threatened foil -- who says he was beaten up by another Oakton student just three days earlier -- has ignored a drug debt; the story is that he either was given or stole marijuana that belonged to other boys, and hasn't paid them back. Baranyk would like to bust someone for the assault, but he doesn't have a witness, besides the victim, whose credibility has never been rock solid."

spanky Wrote:
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> SLHS Contra,
> I understand. So you couldn't be competetive at
> the private or AP school. Thats ok - its not for
> everyone. The world needs folks in the service
> industry too.
>
> I am taking the high road here by calling out the
> liars and delusional parents at South Lakes.
>
> I'm glad the students at South Lakes are getting
> their say in this matter. After all, they will be
> the ones run over by whomever gets redistricted.

Could you please explain why you think that SL students will not succeed? Is it because we are not intelligent and capable? Or because we do not receive quality education? I am genuinely curious.

The filters on the FCPS computers DO have filters and this site would be blocked. These are not students from FCPS posting here. They are either children not in school or parents posing as children. Either way, this is ridiculous.

no

Roger Wrote:
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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic
> le/2006/05/30/AR2006053001016.html
>
> Can someone help me on this?
>
> I was going to by a house near Oakton, but this
> worries me. It was in the Washington Post, and
> I'm sure they got it right.
>
> "The kid, he notes, has been in frequent trouble
> at school, and is now accused by his ex-girlfriend
> of threatening to beat up another student. The
> situation has grown more alarming because
> suspicion is building that the troubled boy may be
> associated with a gang and that his threatened
> foil -- who says he was beaten up by another
> Oakton student just three days earlier -- has
> ignored a drug debt; the story is that he either
> was given or stole marijuana that belonged to
> other boys, and hasn't paid them back. Baranyk
> would like to bust someone for the assault, but he
> doesn't have a witness, besides the victim, whose
> credibility has never been rock solid."

Dear Roger, ask Birdlover. She knows all about gang activity...oh, never mind, she knows about gang activity at South Lakes, not Oakton, where her daughters go.

FXC Wrote:
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> The filters on the FCPS computers DO have filters
> and this site would be blocked. These are not
> students from FCPS posting here. They are either
> children not in school or parents posing as
> children. Either way, this is ridiculous.

You are mistaken. This site is NOT blocked... Certain sites (social networking, chat rooms, inappropriate sites such as porn, etc) are filtered. This site is obviously not one of them and therefore is not blocked.

To All Seahawks Posting Here:

Do keep up the good posts which show your allegiance to your fine school and the wonderful writing and analytical skills you are all learning.

Do continue to be civil and do your school proud.

Don't resort to the name-calling used by some adults here and stay above the fray.

Do continue to be respectful of them, even if they don't deserve it.

Don't criticize other schools.

Don't post during valuable class time.

Do work hard so you can get into great schools and shape your future.

Don't pay any attention to the parents who say you are not really students, are pimps, are hos, etc.

Do be flattered that they think you are adults.

Do be flattered that they also attacked former SL students now in college who posted here earlier.

Do rest assured that you are getting under their skin.

Do keep up the good work defending your school.

Do show up at the next public forum and represent your school magnificently, like you did before.

I am proud of you.

How can these kids post all day long, while at school. What kind of school is South Lakes, where kids are able to play on the internet all day? So much for their statements about this being a good school. This is a total joke. Parents will never send their children to this daycare center. Never. This is lunacy. I'm sending copies of these posts to South Lakes H.S. and to the county. No wonder this school has so many problems.

Casual Observer Wrote:
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> Roger Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic
>
> > le/2006/05/30/AR2006053001016.html
> >
> > Can someone help me on this?
> >
> > I was going to by a house near Oakton, but this
> > worries me. It was in the Washington Post, and
> > I'm sure they got it right.
> >
> > "The kid, he notes, has been in frequent
> trouble
> > at school, and is now accused by his
> ex-girlfriend
> > of threatening to beat up another student. The
> > situation has grown more alarming because
> > suspicion is building that the troubled boy may
> be
> > associated with a gang and that his threatened
> > foil -- who says he was beaten up by another
> > Oakton student just three days earlier -- has
> > ignored a drug debt; the story is that he
> either
> > was given or stole marijuana that belonged to
> > other boys, and hasn't paid them back. Baranyk
> > would like to bust someone for the assault, but
> he
> > doesn't have a witness, besides the victim,
> whose
> > credibility has never been rock solid."
>
> Dear Roger, ask Birdlover. She knows all about
> gang activity...oh, never mind, she knows about
> gang activity at South Lakes, not Oakton, where
> her daughters go.


"There's usually a fight a week in the Oakton cafeteria."

"Oakton has never been plagued by organized crews, although Baranyk believes there are gang members among the students, as evidenced by graffiti that has appeared on campus over the last year."

- Well Roger - I'm sure you can't believe the security officer at Oakton. He is probably a liar. As is that journalist, he made the story up, fights and gangs at Oakton, who knew?


"She shows off her scanty tank top, whining when Baranyk says that her bare midriff violates the dress code."

- Now I know this is untrue. Oakton teens don't violate dress codes nor any rules. How dare this guy write such stuff!


"In the afternoon, wearing a dark suit, Baranyk makes a short drive to a Fairfax County school district office, where separate disciplinary hearings will be held for two Oakton girls. The first, a senior, is charged with bringing a drug to school -- a painkiller prescribed to her -- and giving it to another student. The other girl, an underclassman, is accused of possessing not only the painkiller but a small quantity of marijuana found in a search of her belongings. "

- Girls doing drugs - what's next?