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Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Parson ()
Date: September 19, 2010 09:10AM

Are there any areas of FXCO you just love or long to live in? I've lived here 10 years and we're looking to buy a larger home, but no town or city stands out as THE place to be. We'd like a newer home that isn't a money pit.

Lorton is growing and has nice homes, but it seems to far out and inconvenient to shopping, malls, etc. Anyone here live there that can share their opinions?

Vienna is nice, but so congested and most of the homes are older, no?

Fairfax City has some nice things to offer, but the nice things are inconvenient and the congestion keeps getting worse. It seems like there's always a lot of traffic, no?

Fairfax Station has some nice areas, but no neighborhood stands out and again many houses there are old.

Reston/Herdon - I really know anything about, but you don't paint a pretty picture of it here on FU.

McLean/Falls Church - no doubt out of my price range.

Clifton - what neighborhood would you recommend?

So where would you live if you could choose your spot? Where should I start my search? Or would you leave FXCO all together and try Prince William or Loudon? I've found realtors to be absolutely no help whatsoever. They won't give me a straight opinion or a definitive answer to any of my questions.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: One-Way ()
Date: September 19, 2010 09:12AM

22308

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: priapus ()
Date: September 19, 2010 09:24AM

What is an Eutopia?

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Burke/West Springfield ()
Date: September 19, 2010 09:28AM

Burke/West Springfield is convenient for commuting to most parts of NoVA/DC.

We were renting in 22308 and moved as soon as we could. Did not like the houses in 22308--overpriced for the conditions they were in. Too hard to drive to other parts of the county. Also did not like the clique-y people in the neighborhood (just north of Fort Hunt National Park, off GW Parkway). They ran the FCPS elementary school like a private school, but the quality of instruction was mediocre at best. The pushy parents ran things there. The people in the front office would take out their anger on students or parents who did not have influence in the community.

Avoid 22308!

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Try the 22030 ()
Date: September 19, 2010 10:07AM

22030, City of Fairfax is fine. Find a decent house and you will be in the middle of everything. Traffic isn't THAT bad - have you been around Tysons lately?

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: say ()
Date: September 19, 2010 10:08AM

A Mason Neck waterfront home (with private dock) would be my "eutopia".

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Piggy ()
Date: September 19, 2010 10:26AM

Kirby Road area. I guess it is McLean/Falls Church. Very quiet with no dangerous minorites with guns.

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Date: September 19, 2010 11:20AM

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Not sure ()
Date: September 19, 2010 11:25AM

Parson Wrote:
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I've found realtors to be absolutely no
> help whatsoever. They won't give me a straight
> opinion or a definitive answer to any of my
> questions.

What questions? You seem to have virtually ruled out every neighborhood in Fairfax county for one reason or another. Someone else can't tell you where you'd like to live. Generally people have some idea and then look with a realtor.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: NewToClifton ()
Date: September 19, 2010 11:54AM

Clifton is paradise - everything is 5 acres or more and zoned that way. It's nice out here - you don't even feel like you're still in Fairfax Co., but you're just down the road from Burke, Fairfax, etc.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 19, 2010 12:01PM

Parson Wrote:
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> Vienna is nice, but so congested and most of the
> homes are older, no?




The older homes are built much sturdier than anything built in the 90s and 2000s.

Vienna houses may be smaller, but they usually have more backyard space and are higher quality construction than the Fairfax houses constructed during the housing boom. This is a fact.

Same goes for the older homes in Falls Church.



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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: CliftonResident ()
Date: September 19, 2010 12:07PM

+1


NewToClifton Wrote:
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> Clifton is paradise - everything is 5 acres or
> more and zoned that way. It's nice out here - you
> don't even feel like you're still in Fairfax Co.,
> but you're just down the road from Burke, Fairfax,
> etc.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: September 19, 2010 12:12PM

CliftonResident Wrote:
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> +1
>
>
> NewToClifton Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Clifton is paradise - everything is 5 acres or
> > more and zoned that way. It's nice out here -
> you
> > don't even feel like you're still in Fairfax
> Co.,
> > but you're just down the road from Burke,
> Fairfax,
> > etc.

Yeah, pretty much. I love Clifton.

It just costs so much to live there. Understandably.

I live in Fairfax City and like it very much, but Clifton is where I'd live if I could afford it.



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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: WestfieldDad ()
Date: September 19, 2010 01:27PM

Parson Wrote:
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> Are there any areas of FXCO you just love or long
> to live in? I've lived here 10 years and we're
> looking to buy a larger home, but no town or city
> stands out as THE place to be. We'd like a newer
> home that isn't a money pit.
>

Until you provide the following -

Work location
Price range
Your personal trade-off of distance from work vs. housing cost

you won't get any meaningful answers to your question.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: September 19, 2010 01:29PM

Reston is the bomb, and I'm the Ted Kaczynski of this joint.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: September 19, 2010 01:33PM

22308 is home to Waynewood Elementary, the whitest elementary in Fairfax County. But the thing is they still gotta go to West Potomac.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: tomahawk ()
Date: September 19, 2010 02:24PM

I think Eutopia is utopia for Europeans.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Parson ()
Date: September 19, 2010 03:18PM

Sorry about the "Eu"topia - it's a family joke.

I haven't ruled out any area, it's just that no area calls to me. There's a lot of give and take with each area. One never really knows what an area is like until they live there. When I've talked to realtors and asked about various neighborhoods they say "drive around and see if you like it". Well, I've been driving around NOVA for 10 years and no one area stands out for me.

I work in Crystal City. I'm looking for a SFH in the 650k-700k range. I like the VRE as I'm not sold on Metro yet. I shop Wegmans, Trader Joes, and Safeway mostly. I golf, enjoy live music, and have kids in sport/arts. I prefer established neighborhoods where people keep up their houses and there is consistency (no cars parked on lawns, no year round Christmas decorations,etc.). Thoughts?

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: say ()
Date: September 19, 2010 03:26PM

NewToClifton Wrote:
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> Clifton is paradise - everything is 5 acres or
> more and zoned that way. It's nice out here - you
> don't even feel like you're still in Fairfax Co.,
> but you're just down the road from Burke, Fairfax,
> etc.


Yes, Clifton is very nice, but that 5 acre zoning thing is relatively recent. There are plenty of homes down there on less than 5 acres, and I'm not talking about in town.

The gentrification of Clifton is relatively recent also. In the 50's and 60's land in Clifton was dirt cheap (the black church on Kincheloe is from the old days). I wish I had bought a bunch yaers ago.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Not Sure ()
Date: September 19, 2010 04:19PM

Parson Wrote:
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> I work in Crystal City. I'm looking for a SFH in
> the 650k-700k range. I like the VRE as I'm not
> sold on Metro yet. I shop Wegmans, Trader Joes,
> and Safeway mostly. I golf, enjoy live music, and
> have kids in sport/arts. I prefer established
> neighborhoods where people keep up their houses
> and there is consistency (no cars parked on lawns,
> no year round Christmas decorations,etc.).
> Thoughts?

Finally some answers, Check out Lake Barcroft, Falls Church.
The homes are older but very well built...you are in the price range for Lake Barcroft. The community activities are fabulous and unending for families.
The price range would not be on the lake but in the community and it's great. Most homes are generally well kept but free of HOA. Dues $350.00 per year including the lake, beaches w/ guards, book clubs, new comers club etc. amenties galore. Close to Pinecrest golf course. Trader Joes & Safeway are in the neighborhood.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: CliftonResident ()
Date: September 19, 2010 07:00PM

Check out this listing for a house in your price range in Clifton. Plenty of privacy, quiet, yet close enough to be convenient.

http://franklymls.com/FX7430854

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: CliftonResident ()
Date: September 19, 2010 07:03PM

Or, if you are a Tea Partyer type this place has a fall-out shelter!

http://franklymls.com/FX7381634

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: another spot ()
Date: September 19, 2010 07:06PM

Check out West Springfield. The community behind the private golf course is established and nice. Walking distance to Whole Foods, Starbucks, Panera, great Thai restaurant, Austin Grill, Giant. Short drive (8 minutes) to Safeway, Trader Joe's. Great schools (elementary through West Springfield HS). The area will be worth more since the new Geospatial Intelligence building (Fort Belvoir) is just down Rolling Road (8K new employees soon). Good access to Pentagon (busline)_ and Metro. VRE is right up Rolling Road.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Dane Bramage ()
Date: September 19, 2010 08:54PM

I'd stay away from Clifton, there's a lot of asbestos in the soil and the school is slotted to close due to being old and decrepit with contaminated water. The traffic really sucks through there also.

For convenience, Reston and the 20171 Herndon area are great choices. When the Metro goes through the property values will increase in both towns. Falls Church is also nice, as is Great Falls, although Great Falls is a little further out.

If you're on a budget, perhaps check out Centreville, Chantilly, Lorton, or just across the county line is Lake Ridge, in PWC.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Swamp Thing ()
Date: September 19, 2010 11:39PM

Reston has rich sections and poor sections. By the Lakes and the Reston Town Center are nice. The apartments close to Hunters Wood Plaza are bad areas.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: dai;iw ()
Date: September 20, 2010 12:50AM

The Little ROcky Run section of Clifton is beautiful too. Nice proximity to old Clifton, Burke, Fairfax. Beautiful and spacious well built houses, although the lots are usually pretty small. With the schools right in the neighborhood it definitely feels like an enclave within Fairfax County.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: September 20, 2010 06:56AM


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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: sumguy ()
Date: September 20, 2010 08:31AM

fairfax City is nice the traffic seems bad. there are alot of side streets to get around the traffic. If traffic is your main concern you might want to move off the eastren shore to the mid west.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: I'm lovin it ()
Date: September 20, 2010 09:02AM

I'm in the Utopia called Brookfield. Close to main roads, shopping, and can walk to shopping at wonderful Stein Mart, AutoZone, Kings Bite, and Staples. Beautiful neighborhood.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: captain22 ()
Date: September 20, 2010 09:10AM

priapus Wrote:
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> What is an Eutopia?

I think it is a European Utopia

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: captain22 ()
Date: September 20, 2010 09:13AM

Waynewood, Ft Hunt Rd, Mount Vernon east of Rt 1 area NE of Mount Vernon

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Spellcheck ()
Date: September 20, 2010 09:15AM

captain22 Wrote:
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> priapus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What is an Eutopia?
>
> I think it is a European Utopia


I think OP is just a bad speller.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: September 20, 2010 09:55AM

Franklin farm/Franklin Oaks, might be a place to call home.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: Duchess ()
Date: September 20, 2010 10:32AM

Falls Church City - the run their own very well run school system, so if you have kids not squalking about FCPS. After that - Fairfax City. In other words, avoid the County.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: September 20, 2010 12:24PM

FC City -- if you can only spend $700k expect a house from the 50s through the 70s, albeit one that has been renovated/expanded and is on a nice lot.

FFX City -- you can get some recent construction there.

Duchess: Why would you want to avoid the county? I mean, it's not like the FFX City/County operating agreement's going to end anytime soon.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: ILoveReston ()
Date: September 20, 2010 12:25PM

I LOVE RESTON! It's the BEST place to live!

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: FiveStroke ()
Date: September 20, 2010 01:21PM

I grew up in Waynewood (22308). It is a great place to be a kid, but West Potomac HS is not great and it is a pain to get anywhere since it is south of he beltway. Things changed when Ft. Hunt HS closed.

I now live in Annandale, outside the beltway, just west of Wakefield Chapel Rd. The houses here were built in the late '60s so not so old, and very solid. The schools are great (wakefield forest/frost/woodson) and being located at the beltway, right in the center makes for an easy drive to most anywhere.

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Re: Fairfax County Eutopia?
Posted by: OaktonMama ()
Date: September 22, 2010 01:46PM

Since you have kids you need to get ratings for high schools. I've heard that North Arlington has good schools and its' close to Crystal City. In FC Langley, Madison, Oakton are good schools. Reston, Fairfax and Herndon high schools are just ok as I heard. Also, check Falls Church schools as well. Do you prefer urban or suburban settings?

Parson Wrote:
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> Sorry about the "Eu"topia - it's a family joke.
>
> I haven't ruled out any area, it's just that no
> area calls to me. There's a lot of give and take
> with each area. One never really knows what an
> area is like until they live there. When I've
> talked to realtors and asked about various
> neighborhoods they say "drive around and see if
> you like it". Well, I've been driving around NOVA
> for 10 years and no one area stands out for me.
>
> I work in Crystal City. I'm looking for a SFH in
> the 650k-700k range. I like the VRE as I'm not
> sold on Metro yet. I shop Wegmans, Trader Joes,
> and Safeway mostly. I golf, enjoy live music, and
> have kids in sport/arts. I prefer established
> neighborhoods where people keep up their houses
> and there is consistency (no cars parked on lawns,
> no year round Christmas decorations,etc.).
> Thoughts?

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