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Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: September 18, 2010 03:59PM

Anybody know anything about this dude.

He was superintendent of FCPS from'29-'61 and died in 1983. FFX schools were segregated during almost all of his tenure.

Luther Jackson High, the first FFX high school for African-Americans, opened in 1956, two years after the Brown decision.

What was his role in massive resistance?

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: James T Crow ()
Date: September 18, 2010 06:12PM

WT Woodson led the building of the first school for afro-americans in Fairfax County, located along The Gallows Road. The school was named for his friend, the writer Luther P Jackson.

Dr. Luther P. Jackson was born in 1892 in Lexington, Kentucky. He became one of the foremost African-American historians in the United States. Dedicating his life to unearthing the untold history of African Americans, particularly Black Virginians, Dr. Jackson published numerous pamphlets and books, and wrote more than 270 articles on the Black experience, including Free Negro Labor and Property Holding in Virginia, 1830-1860 and Virginia Negro Soldiers and Seamen in the American Revolution. From 1922 until his death in 1950, Dr. Jackson also served as chairman of the History Department at the Virginia State University. Jackson was a close friend of renowned historian, Dr. Carter G. Woodson. Together, they formed the Association for the Study of Afro-American Life and History, a prominent organization that served as a vehicle for disseminating information about the great achievements of African Americans and the growth of the Black community. Dr. Jackson received national recognition for his work from the NAACP, earning him the title of "Mr. Civil Rights" of Virginia.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: iNTERESTING ()
Date: September 18, 2010 06:20PM

Never knew who WT was. Appx location on Gallows road? Carter Woodson and WT any relation?

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 18, 2010 06:28PM


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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 18, 2010 06:41PM

Luther Jackson High School opened in 1954 (a few short months after the Brown decision) as the first high school for African American students in Fairfax County.

Black students previously had communted to the District, Alexandria, or Prince william for their secondary education.

Luther Jackson was NOT the first school constructed for blacks in the county. Several elementary schools such as Vienna Colored School (now Louise Archer), the Fairfax Rosenwald school (which became Eleven Oaks, Gum Springs School, James Lee School, and the Cub Run school opened before Luther Jackson.

To read further about education of African Americans in Fairfax, please click here:
http://www.historicfairfax.org/HFCI41.pdf

Luther Jackson (http://www.fcps.edu/LutherJacksonMS/history.html) was converted to an intermediate school in 1965.



WT Woodson led the building of the first school for afro-americans in Fairfax County, located along The Gallows Road. The school was named for his friend, the writer Luther P Jackson.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 18, 2010 06:46PM

Mr. Woodson was not enthusiastic about the Brown decision.

Although a southerner (He was a graduate of William & Mary), he was not a segregationist.

African American principal B. Oswald Robinson had this to say about working with Mr. Woodson:

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/faculty_archives/principalship/r/155robinson.html

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: September 18, 2010 06:57PM

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Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2013 06:30PM by chuckhoffmann.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: September 18, 2010 08:48PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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It's gratifying that we could have a grand total of 6 posts before some pathetic dumb rectum had to inject himself into the exchange for no good purpose other than self gratification.

Feel free to enjoy carnal knowledge of yourself in some dark corner and leave the grown-ups alone, puppy.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: September 18, 2010 09:47PM

GMU Hokie Wrote:
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> All you ever needed to know about Mr. Woodson . .
>
> http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=superinten
> dent+++wilbur+OR+wilbert+%22tucker+woodson%22&hl=e
> n&lr=&as_qdr=all&prmd=o


the link doesn't work, thanks for trying though

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: September 18, 2010 09:49PM

iNTERESTING Wrote:
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> Never knew who WT was. Appx location on Gallows road? Carter Woodson and WT any relation?<

Luther Jackson is still there just north of Route 50 on Gallows on the west side.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: September 18, 2010 09:58PM

Thank you for sharing.

So it seems Fairfax has chosen to name only 4 of its high schools after real people.

All white.

All men.

3 slave owners, 2 traitors and a segregationist.

In a jurisdiction where only 46% of the students are white and that is widely regarded as among the most advanced, sophisticated, liberal jurisdictions in America.

There's something seriously wrong with this.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: say ()
Date: September 18, 2010 10:24PM

Woodson High School's website has some interesting stuff about WilBERT Tucker Woodson. Of course, it doesn't mention anything about his role, if any, with Gov. Byrd's massive resistance movement. But I imagine he was a product of his generation. Had he spoken out against it, we would know about it today. Sort of like Gov Ralph Carr of Colorado, the only elected official to speak out against one of the biggest crimes in US history, the internment of thousands of US citizens during World War II. He was promptly booted from office for his courage.

The school board broke it's own rule about naming a school for a living person. WT said he was honored but considered it a mistake.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Jack Dale ()
Date: September 18, 2010 10:26PM

I'm going to be superintendent for 32 years, just like WTW. Just to piss you fuckers off.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Fact Checker ()
Date: September 18, 2010 10:40PM

Thomas More - seems you can't count. Definitely named after real people: Marshall, Madison, Stuart, Edison, Lee, Woodson, Robinson.

Does this bio make you feel better about FCPS:

Robinson Secondary was named in honor of Sgt. James W. Robinson, Jr., the first Virginia resident to receive the Medal of Honor for conspicuous gallantry and heroism in the Vietnam conflict.

The record of his performance is held in the highest regard by all members of the Robinson community and provides a model for character and leadership that extends to all facets of our school program.




Rank and organization: Sergeant, U.S. Army, Company C, 2d Battalion, 16th Infantry, 1st Infantry Division

Place and date: Republic of Vietnam, 11 April 1966.

Entered service at: Chicago, Ill. Born: 30 August 1940, Hinsdale, Ill.

Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. Company C was engaged in fierce combat with a Viet Cong battalion. Despite the heavy fire, Sgt. Robinson moved among the men of his fire team, instructing and inspiring them, and placing them in advantageous positions.

Enemy snipers located in nearby trees were inflicting heavy casualties on forward elements of Sgt. Robinson's unit. Upon locating the enemy sniper whose fire was taking the heaviest toll, he took a grenade launcher and eliminated the sniper. Seeing a medic hit while administering aid to a wounded sergeant in front of his position and aware that now the 2 wounded men were at the mercy of the enemy, he charged through a withering hail of fire and dragged his comrades to safety, where he rendered first aid and saved their lives. As the battle continued and casualties mounted, Sgt. Robinson moved about under intense fire to collect from the wounded their weapons and ammunition and redistribute them to able-bodied soldiers.

Adding his fire to that of his men, he assisted in eliminating a major enemy threat. Seeing another wounded comrade in front of his position, Sgt. Robinson again defied the enemy's fire to effect a rescue. In so doing he was himself wounded in the shoulder and leg. Despite his painful wounds, he dragged the soldier to shelter and saved his life by administering first aid. While patching his own wounds, he spotted an enemy machinegun which had inflicted a number of casualties on the American force. His rifle ammunition expended, he seized 2 grenades and, in an act of unsurpassed heroism, charged toward the entrenched enemy weapon. Hit again in the leg, this time with a tracer round which set fire to his clothing, Sgt. Robinson ripped the burning clothing from his body and staggered indomitably through the enemy fire, now concentrated solely on him, to within grenade range of the enemy machinegun position. Sustaining 2 additional chest wounds, he marshaled his fleeting physical strength and hurled the 2 grenades, thus destroying the enemy gun position, as he fell dead upon the battlefield. His magnificent display of leadership and bravery saved several lives and inspired his soldiers to defeat the numerically superior enemy force.

Sgt. Robinson's conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity, at the cost of his life, are in keeping with the finest traditions of the U.S. Army and reflect great credit upon the 1st Infantry Division and the U.S. Armed Forces.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Fact Checker ()
Date: September 18, 2010 10:43PM

And Jefferson, as well.

So, at a minimum, Jefferson, Marshall, Madison, Stuart, Edison, Lee, Woodson, and Robinson were all named after real people. McLean HS is named after the town, but the town is named after the individual (like Fairfax).

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: September 18, 2010 11:24PM

Damn, thanks,

So 8 instead of 4 out of 25.

Still all white.

Still all male.

4 slave owners, 2 traitors, 1 segregationist, 1 inventor, 2 heroes

Slightly better but 5 of 8 are not so appealing.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: say ()
Date: September 19, 2010 12:19AM

I don't think any future high school will be named after a person, or at least a white person.

It's just so much less hassle to name them after their geographical location...Westfield, South County, etc.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: September 19, 2010 05:39AM

Curiously, still naming elementary and middle schools after people like Rachel Carlson & Colin Powell.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 19, 2010 06:46AM

Mr. Woodson realized integration was inevitable - sort of like gay marriage today. He wasn't a seg, but he WAS a southerner.

Like anyone else, he had definite biases. Click on the link to the remarks by B. Oswald Robinson above

T. C. Williams, Superintendent of Alexandria City Schools actually fired a janitor who sought to enroll her children in integrated schools.




say Wrote:
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> Woodson High School's website has some interesting
> stuff about WilBERT Tucker Woodson. Of course, it
> doesn't mention anything about his role, if any,
> with Gov. Byrd's massive resistance movement. But
> I imagine he was a product of his generation. Had
> he spoken out against it, we would know about it
> today. Sort of like Gov Ralph Carr of Colorado,
> the only elected official to speak out against one
> of the biggest crimes in US history, the
> internment of thousands of US citizens during
> World War II. He was promptly booted from office
> for his courage.
>
> The school board broke it's own rule about naming
> a school for a living person. WT said he was
> honored but considered it a mistake.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Bill ()
Date: September 19, 2010 11:24AM

Two ironies here. The first is that of the high schools named after individuals only one, Woodson, was named after someone with a close connection to Fairfax. Even Lee and Marshall who had northern Virginia ties seem more closely tied to other jurisdictions.

The second is that a person using the name Thomas More would have a problem with traitors when his namesake was executed for treason because he chose loyalty to the Pope over loyalty to the King of England whom he had served for several years. Lee and Stuart faced this same problem of competing loyalties. Also omitted from the traitor count were two people who definitely were traitors to King George III-Jefferson and Madison.

Someone mentioned that McLean was indirectly named after a person. The same is also true of Lake Braddock (General Braddock of F&IW fame for whom the road and region were named) and Mount Vernon (Admiral Vernon, commander of a military expedition that Washington's half-brother participated in).

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: September 19, 2010 12:11PM

Oh, Bill

In the case of the 8, the persons full name is part of the school's name.

The circumstances you cite are very indirect but continue the trend of all white, all male.

My namesake is now considered a hero of conscience and religious freedom, even in England.

If you want to call Jefferson and Madison traitors, it tells us more about you than them.

Lee and Stuart were traitors to the government to which I pledge my allegiance, the United States of America.

My inquiry was prompted by the decision of Radford University to remove the name of John Powell from one of their buildings.

". . .John Powell . . . was an important white supremacist, the man who founded the Richmond chapter of the Anglo-Saxon Club of America. Powell was instrumental in the passage of the 1924 legislation that gave Walter Plecker the authority to decide who was "undesirable," "feeble-minded," or a "mongrel."

For example, using the power of that act, Plecker reclassified all members of Virginia Indian tribes as "colored," thus excluding them from then-segregated public schools and other state institutions.

The Radford University building wasn't named for John Powell in the Twenties when racist eugenics policies were fairly common in America. Instead, it happened in 1967, the year when the state 1924 Racial Integrity Act was overturned by the U. S. Supreme Court in Loving v. Virginia, the court case that also outlawed any state prohibition against inter-racial marriage. However, when it was in force, the Racial Integrity Act didn't simply refuse equal marriage rights to all state citizens. It resulted in actions by the state far, far worse.

Using the eugenics policies that Virginia had back then, thousands of people deemed by the state to be "unfit to reproduce," including many poor white people with low IQ's, were committed to places like the Virginia Colony for Epileptics and Feebleminded in Amherst County, where they were surgically sterilized without their consent. Perhaps the worst indictment of the atmosphere in Virginia back then is the fact that Adolf Hitler used the same rationale as Virginia for the Nazi sterilization law, which was used to purge Jews, intellectually undesirable people, and handicapped citizens from German society before the Final Solution was devised.

. . . [In] 1971, U.S. Judge Robert Merige forced the county to integrate its schools in the middle of the year. Merige was dumbfounded to find that Amherst County had three school systems, not two. One was for the Monacan Indian population, then designated as "Issues." Their schooling only went to the 8th grade because the state insisted they were "colored" and they clung to their heritage and refused to be labeled that way. There was another for the Black population of the county, which had schools with up to 45 students in a classroom, little equipment, and old textbooks. Finally, there were the schools reserved for the favored White students."


Like the decision of Radford to name the building after a racist in 1967, the naming of Fairfax high schools after Lee, Stuart and Woodson were also acts of defiance to the civil rights movements and acts of enshrinement to the Lost Cause and segregation.

Is it time to consider following Radford's example?



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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 19, 2010 12:12PM

Lee's mother died at Ravensworth. He spent his early years in Alexandria and his family also owned Clermont off what is now Franconia Road.

As an army officer, Marshall lived on many posts. A VMI graduate, he was a Virgninian by choice.

When Lee resigned his commission, he did so because he did not want to engage in combat with his fellow Virginians. Southerners often felt more loyal to their states than to the federal government.


Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson new
Posted by: Bill ()
Date: September 19, 2010 11:24AM


Two ironies here. The first is that of the high schools named after individuals only one, Woodson, was named after someone with a close connection to Fairfax. Even Lee and Marshall who had northern Virginia ties seem more closely tied to other jurisdictions.

The second is that a person using the name Thomas More would have a problem with traitors when his namesake was executed for treason because he chose loyalty to the Pope over loyalty to the King of England whom he had served for several years. Lee and Stuart faced this same problem of competing loyalties. Also omitted from the traitor count were two people who definitely were traitors to King George III-Jefferson and Madison.

Someone mentioned that McLean was indirectly named after a person. The same is also true of Lake Braddock (General Braddock of F&IW fame for whom the road and region were named) and Mount Vernon (Admiral Vernon, commander of a military expedition that Washington's half-brother participated in).

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 19, 2010 12:13PM

No.




Like the decision of Radford to name the building after a racist in 1967, the naming Fairfax high schools after Lee, Stuart and Woodson were also acts of defiance to the then growing civil rights movements and acts of enshrinement to the Lost Cause.

Is it time to consider following Radford's example?

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: September 19, 2010 01:01PM

GMU Hokie Wrote:
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> As an army officer, Marshall lived on many posts. A VMI graduate, he was a Virgninian by choice.<

GCM was distantly related to John Marshall but GCM was born in Uniontown,PA and always described himself as a Pennsylvanian.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: MovinOn ()
Date: September 19, 2010 02:00PM

Thomas More Wrote:
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> Damn, thanks,
>
> So 8 instead of 4 out of 25.
>
> Still all white.
>
> Still all male.
>
> 4 slave owners, 2 traitors, 1 segregationist, 1
> inventor, 2 heroes
>
> Slightly better but 5 of 8 are not so appealing.

Says you.

FCPS isn't building too many new high schools right now. But some of the newer ES are being named after blacks (Colin Powell, Coates, etc.)

I guess one could hold a referendum on Stuart and Lee, and rename one or both of them after MLK, Malcolm X or BO. But I'd rather spend the money on teachers trying to help the minority kids at those schools than new signs and new stationery.

MontCo just named a new elementary school after Sarge Shriver - who I guess is the type of Democratic white guy you can still name a school after these days in Maryland. It's almost 100% minority and the irony of naming a public school after someone who sent his kids to expensive private schools appears to have gone unnoticed.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Utopian ()
Date: September 20, 2010 12:20PM

Thomas More Wrote:
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>
> Is it time to consider following Radford's
> example?


No. Changing history to make it more politically correct for the apologists does not make it go away, and actually hurts their cause. Saint Thomas More would not approve.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Louise Archer ()
Date: September 20, 2010 02:45PM

Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Utopian ()
Date: September 20, 2010 12:20PM

Thomas More Wrote:
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> >Is it time to consider following Radford's example?< <


>No. Changing history to make it more politically correct for the apologists does not make it go away, and actually hurts their cause. Saint Thomas More would not approve.<

Could you try it in English next time?

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Louise Archer ()
Date: September 20, 2010 02:48PM

MovinOn Wrote:
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> MontCo just named a new elementary school after Sarge Shriver

Shriver was a Maryland native and long time resident of Montgomery County.

Naming it after a minority female associated with MoCo would have been better though.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Myob ()
Date: April 28, 2012 06:51PM

Most of those schools were also named long ago. Since our fastest growing demographic comprises Hispanic students, I presume you suggest renaming our schools after those ethic icons? Don't worry... that population is growing so fast that I'm sure there will be PLENTY of new schools to name (and pay for).

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Pancho Villa High School ()
Date: April 30, 2012 08:58AM

Anyone know the name of the folks who owned the farm that W.T. Woodson high school and Robert Frost intermediate now sit on?

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 30, 2012 09:15AM

geez, Myob - learn to READ THE EFFING DATE on these threads
@Pancho - Dunno but I like how the house is still on the property

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Counter ()
Date: April 30, 2012 09:30AM

Not sure what the point of counting how many "white named" schools in Fairfax County is, but my elementary schooling tells me that 8/25 = 32%. So only about a third of the schools are named after people at all. And they were named that when the white population was probably closer to 90%.

Perhaps you should start a campaign to rename all the schools after ethnic figures according to the population.

Really, who gives a fuck?

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: death school ()
Date: October 08, 2012 07:22PM

tucker did not want them alive

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Charles ()
Date: July 24, 2016 12:17PM

This is an ancient thread, but for anyone who finds his way here in 2016 or later, I want to emphasize that the man's name was WILBERT, not Wilbur. Someone made this same point several years ago, but no one seemed to notice.

Readers might be interested in Mr. Woodson's genealogy. He was a direct descendant of Dr. John Woodson, an early Jamestown settler, who was killed b Indians about 1645. (I can hear "Thomas More" now: "He was another white man. He deserved it.") During the raid on Dr. Woodson's farm, Mrs. Woodson hid her two sons, one in a "Potato Hole" and the other under a "Wash Tub." the descendants of those two sons have long been known as either "Potato Hole" Woodsons or "Wash Tub" Woodsons.


Dr. Woodson's descendants (Mr. Woodson's ancestors) were very prominent in the American Revolution.

One of Dr. Woodson's direct descendants was the famous outlaw, "Jesse Woodson James." He would have been Mr. Woodson's 2nd or 3rd cousin, once or twice removed.

As for the writer calling himself "Thomas More," he knows that it isn't realistic to apply the standards underlying and defining today's human relations to the standards of yesteryear (one, two, five, or twenty centuries ago). People change.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson- Change the name
Posted by: Winner winner chicken dinner ()
Date: July 24, 2016 06:14PM

Change the name of the school

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: WTW Alumni ()
Date: October 25, 2016 03:36PM

I agree with Woodson for not wanting to intergrate right away. I'm black, and the way he proposed was to start intergration in the elementary schools, so that the different races could grow up together and not just be forced together in high school, which is the time of a teenagers life that is most vulnerable because of how high school is so clique-y and stuff. By starting in the elementary schools, they are able to keep the peace a lot better since little kids aren't as brutal when it comes to racism, unlike high schoolers who can be very mean about everything you can possibly think of.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: ..... ()
Date: October 25, 2016 03:57PM

Thomas More Wrote:
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> Thank you for sharing.
>
> So it seems Fairfax has chosen to name only 4 of
> its high schools after real people.
>
> All white.
>
> All men.
>
> 3 slave owners, 2 traitors and a segregationist.
>
> In a jurisdiction where only 46% of the students
> are white and that is widely regarded as among the
> most advanced, sophisticated, liberal
> jurisdictions in America.
>
> There's something seriously wrong with this.



Advanced and sophisticated?


Lmfao...yeah, ok.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: ..... ()
Date: October 25, 2016 03:58PM

WTW Alumni Wrote:
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> I agree with Woodson for not wanting to intergrate
> right away. I'm black, and the way he proposed was
> to start intergration in the elementary schools,
> so that the different races could grow up together
> and not just be forced together in high school,
> which is the time of a teenagers life that is most
> vulnerable because of how high school is so
> clique-y and stuff. By starting in the elementary
> schools, they are able to keep the peace a lot
> better since little kids aren't as brutal when it
> comes to racism, unlike high schoolers who can be
> very mean about everything you can possibly think
> of.



Right. Because gangs of black kids don't go around committing crime, beating up white students, and disrupting classes these days.

Segregation worked, and we need to go back to it.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Revising Antirevisionist History ()
Date: October 25, 2016 04:22PM

..... Wrote:
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>
> Right. Because gangs of black kids don't go around
> committing crime, beating up white students, and
> disrupting classes these days.
>
> Segregation worked, and we need to go back to it.

When we had segregation it was more likely gangs of whites going around beating up blacks. If anything went wrong, blame the closest nigger. If it wasn't him, it could have been one of his cousins.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: VA Swede ()
Date: June 14, 2017 09:40AM

This is silly. Woodson did not allow blacks to get a secondary education for the first 25 years of his tenure. The time has long passed to honor men like him.

Lee and Jackson were traitors, so they should go, too.

There is no "heritage" argument - only continuing white supremacy.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: FOIA CAN BITE ()
Date: June 14, 2017 10:36AM

VA Swede Wrote:
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This is silly. Woodson did not allow blacks to get a secondary education for the first 25 years of his tenure. The time has long passed to honor men like him.
Lee and Jackson were traitors, so they should go, too.
There is no "heritage" argument - only continuing white supremacy.

Hey Virginia Swede, you really had to dig for this old thread. Glad you did. Let's revisit history…

Fairfax County Schools like most Southern Schools were under De jure segregation. There were local elementary schools for black students but not high schools. Although Fairfax was a densely populated area there were proportionately few Negro high school students. The same was true for our neighbors. Fairfax, Prince William, Loudoun and Fauquier Counties shared the high school for black students. The school was centrally located between the counties in Manassas.

I would suggest you read "A Classroom a day" a chapter in Daniel Dukes book Education Empire. The only reason he wrote the book was he was in awe of the way Mr. Woodson and the school boards handled the tremendous growth of the Fairfax County Public schools from the 1920's until the 1970's. It was unprecedented.

Perhaps you can explain why Mr. Woodson was a guest at the Henderson's 50th Wedding Anniversary in December 1960. Oh…E.B. Henderson, the President of the NAACP of Falls Church, who was the leader in fighting Massive Resistance.

Lastly…there is no "white supremacy" argument; the use of the term is just a weapon when you have no argument to offer. Let's just put a hateful label on anybody who doesn't agree.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Woodson Alum ()
Date: June 14, 2017 10:50AM

Black Students from Woodson and Luther Jackson used to get together once a year to honor WT Woodson.

Not any more.

History is being rewritten.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Where did it go ()
Date: June 14, 2017 10:52AM

In the hallway near the main entrance to Luther Jackson HS hung a plaque honoring Wilbert Tucker Woodson.

Wonder whatever happened to that.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: FOIA CAN BITE ()
Date: June 14, 2017 11:39AM

VA Swede....

Bring it on...just one piece of evidence, otherwise IMO you are just spewing hate. If you have something, anything...let's hear it.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: FOIA CAN BITE ()
Date: June 20, 2017 08:43PM

VA Swede...are you still looking?

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: phelpsmarc ()
Date: June 20, 2017 09:13PM

VA Swede Wrote:
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> This is silly. Woodson did not allow blacks to get
> a secondary education for the first 25 years of
> his tenure. The time has long passed to honor men
> like him.
>
> Lee and Jackson were traitors, so they should go,
> too.
>
> There is no "heritage" argument - only continuing
> white supremacy.

AS if he had a choice

The law in VA was something he could not control.

Virginia was a confederate state.

Are we supposed to erase the history of Virginia before the Civil War?

RE Lee was highly respected as a great General, even by his enemies.

Where will it end?

What about schools named after slave owners such as Washing, Madison and Jefferson.

Watch SjW's going after them in a few years once the Confederate icons are removed

This radical SJW crusading is resembling the book 1984.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: FOIA CAN BITE ()
Date: June 20, 2017 10:04PM

They have already removed George Washington and Benjamin Franklin in New Orleans. As was stated....

George Washington and Benjamin Franklin were "racist" school names…… "Galmon, routinely dismisses white people who oppose his positions as racist, and attacks black people who disagree with him as ``miseducated'' or ``misguided Negroes.'' After a ruckus last year over removing George Washington's name from an elementary school, Galmon told The New York Times that, ``to African-Americans, George Washington has about as much meaning as David Duke.''

Patrick Henry was recently "demoted" in Arlington County. Renamed for a fine person, and it was a new building but if you read the news articles in 2015...the name was going to follow to the new building. Didn't happen.

And now we have students who feel unsafe at "Madison" Memorial High School, why (?) because he was a slave owner.

BUT these students just happen to live in "Madison" Wisconsin....I guess that doesn't bother them.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: WT Woodson Was A Good Man ()
Date: June 20, 2017 11:46PM

He lived Within The laws of his day and Did Much For the Fairfax County That Was Here..WTF .. U thinks he would be a raving mad socialist commie like Fidel Castro.. ?? He Retired In 1962..!

NOW I will say.. If You Really need to Change names..of existing schools..then the County BOS should make a LAW..NO..The State Of Va..Should Do It..That any school or Public Building or park..can not be renamed for 25 years..and after that time..It can by majority ..Across the Board Vote of the people with a Referendum. Not By Any School Board..OR BOS .. And the new name must be approved by the vote of the people as well..New Schools shall be named by the BOS and School Board in a common vote..by the majority. New County Buildings ..parks..By the BOS..

DAJAX Va Write The Law..then they can do it..It been more then 25 years..If that's what People Really want..To WASTE MONEY ON!!

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: NAACP needs money..that's all ()
Date: June 23, 2017 09:33PM

FOIA CAN BITE Wrote:
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> VA Swede...are you still looking?


Found this today...

The small number of black leaders who have led these campaigns throughout the region have cited their hurt feelings, their sense of humiliation, their desire to bury forever the painful memories of a repressive bygone era. Such cries of anguish have touched the hearts of many Northern donors and not a few Southern politicians, who see the issue as a vehicle to gain support in the black community.

The “hurt feelings” argument rings hollow—and particularly in the state of Georgia. Only a few years ago—when a Georgia city decided to remove the old train station, including the separate entrance signs which read WHITE and COLORED—black activists screamed their objections. Why? Because they said they wanted everyone to remember the indignity of segregation. The WHITE and COLORED signs, they said, helped them to do just that.

https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/blog/the-real-reason-confederate-symbols-are-attacked/

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: well...... ()
Date: June 23, 2017 09:55PM

Keys-Gamarra won the Dem endorsement for School Board. So, my guess is that renaming Stuart is just the start.

FCPS will rename Lee and Woodson next. Keys-Gamarra has already indicated that she supports that. Then, I guess Mosby Wood Elementary will be up for consideration.

Forget worrying about classroom size--we'll spend our money to rename schools. It's about a million a pop for the high schools.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: BOS Cut The FCPS BUDGET ()
Date: June 23, 2017 10:00PM

By 10 mil for waste..! If They Go Down This Stupid As Shit Road. Give It To The FCFD EMS Service..

DAJAX

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Makessense ()
Date: June 23, 2017 10:52PM

NAACP needs money..that's all Wrote:
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> FOIA CAN BITE Wrote:
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> > VA Swede...are you still looking?
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> Found this today...

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> https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/blog/the-real-r
> eason-confederate-symbols-are-attacked/

Its not even about PC...just money. Honestly not that I believed people took offense, but these are kids...they were told to be offended.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: meeze ()
Date: June 24, 2017 10:27AM

All schools in the future will be named after niggers, or some other minorities.
Whites will slowly be removed from history.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: VA Swede ()
Date: August 02, 2017 10:45AM

Sorry I missed you, FOIA. I should be tracking this closer, I guess.

Woodson ran a school district in which blacks could not be educated past sixth grade. He established Ine SEGREGATED school, after the federal rulings against segregation. You say "tradition", but I say systematic racist asshole, and it is clear we are both right.

I don't want him exhumed - I just don't want to honor him, and I don't think you have to be a snowflake liberal to want an end to these mementos of Jim Crow.

Look at meeze's reply to see the company you are keeping.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: FOIA CAN BITE ()
Date: August 02, 2017 12:15PM

VA Swede Wrote:
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> Sorry I missed you, FOIA. I should be tracking
> this closer, I guess.
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> Woodson ran a school district in which blacks
> could not be educated past sixth grade.

Not true, there was clearly a high school established in 1937.

My grandfather was a high ranking military officer during World War Two. He had no more power to desegregate the military than Woodson did to override De jure segregation.

It wasn't until the late 40's early 50's people of either race had a high school education.

In 1940, 24.5 percent of Americans had at least a high school education, and 4.6 percent had a college degree. By 1960, 42 percent of males, 25 years old and over, still had completed no more than the eighth grade.

Can't speak for the 20's but Woodson wasn't around anyways until 1929. From 1929 to 1939 the country went through the "Great Depression." In spite of that in 1937 the public school systems of Fairfax, Fauquier, and Prince William counties formed a joint board of control and purchased 100 acres of land and all the buildings from the Manassas Industrial School to establish a regional high school for African-American students. No county around had money to build a school for such a small population. Although Fairfax was a densely populated area there were proportionately few Negro high school students. That's right in the 1962 Civil rights commission report. Fairfax, Prince William, Loudon, Arlington and Fauquier Counties shared the high school for black students. The school was centrally located between the counties in Manassas.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/1940-us-census-data-released-online/

http://manassascity.org/219/Industrial-School-Jennie-Dean-Memorial

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfax_County_Public_Schools

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: FOIA CAN BITE ()
Date: August 02, 2017 01:18PM

VA Swede Wrote:

"He established Ine SEGREGATED school, after the federal rulings against segregation."

I take it you are referring to Luther Jackson.

So after waiting and finally getting their own high school in Fairfax County can you imagine the anger if they turned around and opened up this first class school as an integrated school?

The black community was instrumental in the planning of that school up to and including the curriculum. Manassas Industrial was known for teaching "trade" skills. The black community wanted both trade and academics. There are testimonials on the internet of graduates who ended up in the trades, had a comfortable life and were thankful.

Mr. Muse was an ardent support of desegregation. Benjamin Muse (WaPo 4/25/54) wrote a very good article about the fact that the black community was not anxious to go to white schools; they liked their own schools as long as they were not substandard, and in Northern Virginia they were not. That was covered in the Civil Rights commission report. The same attitudes were confirmed in the interview with Mr. Oswald (black principal). E.B. Henderson NAACP President raved about how pleased he was with the James Lee elementary school. Black parents sued to keep their children in Louise Archer and not attend Flint Hill.

As late as 1965 (NOTE 1965!) these young ladies were assigned to Thomas Edison but insisted on returning to Luther Jackson, Fairfax gave them the choice. "Their senior year, Ford, King and McNeill had the option to attend the base school for their area, Edison, but chose to graduate from Luther Jackson."

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2015/mar/05/1965-luther-jackson-graduates-springfield-and-alex/

So were the blacks against white people for wanting their own schools? Was it hate? In the article above is a quote… In King’s family, she said, regarding Caucasian students, “they didn’t want to put it in our mind that we’re not as good as they are.”

Are we now all so "enlightened" that we realize it was nothing but hate?

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Just searched ()
Date: August 02, 2017 04:26PM

This is true and Luther Jackson covered grades 7-12. When they opened only about 400 students total. That's only 66 per grade. I thought the black population was higher in FFX County, guess not.

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: Janet Bruno ()
Date: March 18, 2018 05:04PM

Are you the same tall Chuck Hoffman who went to Woodson?

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Re: Wilbur Tucker Woodson
Posted by: chuck hoffman friend 31 ()
Date: March 18, 2018 06:48PM

He is the same. Very tall and also went to Woodson. Yes. You are absolutely correct.

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