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anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: n ()
Date: September 13, 2010 10:00AM

Green Forest Nudist Colony
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The Green Forest Nudist Colony was located in Pender (modern day Reston), off Lawyers Road, overlooking the Snake Den Lake.

It was open at least from 1940 to 1949.

It was the site of the murder of Frances Holober and June Holober on February 24, 1949.

It was also known as the "Green Foresters Club

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: oweoweoh ()
Date: September 13, 2010 10:41AM

Let us know if you get the skinny on this club...

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 13, 2010 10:46AM

Please keep FU abreast of the situation.



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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: September 13, 2010 10:53AM

I have barely heard of it.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: cracker ()
Date: September 13, 2010 01:29PM

there were old, wrinkled, naked people there from 1940 to 1949

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: September 13, 2010 01:31PM

Have you asked Jen? Jen'll tell ya.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: September 13, 2010 02:01PM

I happen to be a history buff.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: September 13, 2010 02:03PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I happen to be a history buff.


Well then, help us get into the nuts and bolts of this operation!

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 13, 2010 02:13PM

I hope someone exposes the truth on this place.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 13, 2010 02:34PM

n Wrote:
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> The Green Forest Nudist Colony was located in
> Pender (modern day Reston), off Lawyers Road,
> overlooking the Snake Den Lake.





A nudist colony overlooking Snake Den Lake. Sounds like a cheesy horror movie in the making.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: September 13, 2010 02:42PM

eesh Wrote:
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> n Wrote:
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>
> > The Green Forest Nudist Colony was located in
> > Pender (modern day Reston), off Lawyers Road,
> > overlooking the Snake Den Lake.
>
>
>
>
> A nudist colony overlooking Snake Den Lake. Sounds
> like a cheesy horror porno movie in the making.

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: September 13, 2010 04:13PM

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2013 05:39PM by chuckhoffmann.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 13, 2010 05:05PM

I would like to know EXACTLY where it was.

I have heard about its proximity to Snake Den Lake.

Where was the lake?

I went to http://www.historicaerials.com/ but could find nothing on the 1949 map which might have been the Lake. I thought the lake could have been renamed Lake Fairfax but it does not appear on the 1949 photos.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 13, 2010 05:16PM

Charles Holober's mother was married to her uncle.

http://proquest.umi.com/pqdweb?did=119315825&sid=13&Fmt=10&clientId=1452&RQT=309&VName=HNP


http://proquest.umi.com/pqdweb?did=213416312&sid=13&Fmt=10&clientId=1452&RQT=309&VName=HNP


Are the buildings at the nudist colony still standing?

http://proquest.umi.com/pqdweb?did=291501312&sid=13&Fmt=10&clientId=1452&RQT=309&VName=HNP

In this article, Holober says he want to go to Germany and practice nudism. Imagine that. A Jew who wanted to go to Germany in 1968 and run around naked. No wonder he was found not guilty by reason of insanity.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 13, 2010 05:17PM

This is the article where Holober said he wanted to go to Germany.


http://proquest.umi.com/pqdweb?did=151429982&sid=3&Fmt=10&clientId=1452&RQT=309&VName=HNP

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Lurker. ()
Date: September 13, 2010 05:45PM

Snake Den lake is where the South Lakes are now. Snaked Den lake was divided into two lakes, Lake Audubon and Lake Thoreau in Reston. The creek that flows into the lower lake is Snake Den creek. The entire area has been developed as part of the Reston master plan.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2010 05:47PM by Lurker..

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 13, 2010 05:57PM

The lakes appear on the 1962 aerial, but the 1949 shot shows what appears to be the convergence of two creeks. If there was a lake at that time, then it was very small.


Lurker. Wrote:
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> Snake Den lake is where the South Lakes are now.
> Snaked Den lake was divided into two lakes, Lake
> Audubon and Lake Thoreau in Reston. The creek that
> flows into the lower lake is Snake Den creek. The
> entire area has been developed as part of the
> Reston master plan.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Lurker. ()
Date: September 13, 2010 06:02PM

Yes, the Snake Den lake was small. The new South lakes are bigger and were made by adding dams to trap more water.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 13, 2010 06:47PM

Where was the lodge?

What is on its site today?

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: dizbuster ()
Date: September 15, 2010 07:34PM

I found a few things on the place. It bordered Lawyers Road and was located near what is now the Reston South Park & Ride Lot. Didn't find anything about Snake Den Lake. What was the source for that? The club drew the ire of the Board of Supervisors when they found out about it.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 15, 2010 09:23PM

diz,

Thanks.

I am not sure where the Reston South Park & Ride lot is.

Can you be a little more specific?


dizbuster Wrote:
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> I found a few things on the place. It bordered
> Lawyers Road and was located near what is now the
> Reston South Park & Ride Lot. Didn't find anything
> about Snake Den Lake. What was the source for
> that? The club drew the ire of the Board of
> Supervisors when they found out about it.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: September 15, 2010 09:36PM

A nudist colony, eh? Try Lake Fairfax for one that still operates. My friend was there with his family last Summer, and he saw entire vato families bathing in it.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: dizbuster ()
Date: September 15, 2010 09:55PM

It's that park & ride near the Fox Mill Shopping Center. If you continue straight while going east on Fox Mill Rd from the Fairfax Co. Pkwy you'll go right into it. All the roads intersecting in that area (Fox Mill Rd, Lawyers Rd, etc.) were aligned a little differently back in the day. And they were all dirt.

Apparently, there was another nudist camp near Navy (crossroads of Ox Trail and West Ox Road, where Navy Elementary is). There were more worries reported in the paper as the US Forest Service was going to build a steel fire tower within a mile of it (near Pender) and people wanted to use binoculars for observation.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: September 16, 2010 04:31AM

dizbuster Wrote:
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> It's that park & ride near the Fox Mill Shopping
> Center. If you continue straight while going east
> on Fox Mill Rd from the Fairfax Co. Pkwy you'll go
> right into it. All the roads intersecting in that
> area (Fox Mill Rd, Lawyers Rd, etc.) were aligned
> a little differently back in the day. And they
> were all dirt.
>
> Apparently, there was another nudist camp near
> Navy (crossroads of Ox Trail and West Ox Road,
> where Navy Elementary is). There were more worries
> reported in the paper as the US Forest Service was
> going to build a steel fire tower within a mile of
> it (near Pender) and people wanted to use
> binoculars for observation.


That would've been a real winner, a nudist colony right next to an elementary school.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Curtis ()
Date: December 29, 2010 10:38PM

Ready-set-go. Here's the deal... The nudist camp was located approx. 1/4 mile North of Lawyers Road and SE of the intersection of Steeplchase Dr. and Triple Crown Road in Reston. 1/8 mile beyond and across Triple Crown Road to the South. A quick walk from the old Reston Pony Barn that's now a picnic pavillion. There was no Snake Den Lake. Snake Den Branch Stream intersected with The Glade Stream further East near what is now Crossing Gate Way off of Crossing Gate Way/Hunter Station Road. The former nudist colony sat on a high hill above The Glade Stream... looks like a drainage ditch these days next to a RHOA asphalt walking path.

The former Nudist's Camp land was re-developed in the late 70's? There is now a private home/residence on the former site... It's the first private drive SE off of Triple Crown Road from Steeplechase Drive.

Recall, the fallen timbers/frame for a single dwelling along, with a vertical/rusty pipe next to a 3' diamater cement/round well hole??? Rescued
a Box Turtle from that open water-filled hole w/ my buddies in the mid-70's. It's all-gone now.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Tim Allison ()
Date: December 09, 2011 03:00PM

Dennis is very correct in the exact location of the nudist camp. It was indeed on that hill where there are private residences on Triple Crown road. I thoroughly explored that area when we moved there in 1973! The strange well was there in the ground, piles of old cone-top beer cans, and remains of the lodge foundation. There was a series of three parallel trails on the site that went to other trailheads. There were actually 2 vertical cement wells on the site, the second being further east of the lodge along the middle parallel path Developed in 1980 at the lodge site and expanded further in the following years. so sad that bastard killed his family and the fact that he buried his 8 month daughter alive makes me wish he suffered a horrible death! What a punk!

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Horde ()
Date: January 01, 2015 03:23PM

Do you know exactly where Snake Den Lake was located?

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Horde ()
Date: January 01, 2015 03:29PM

I know quite a bit about the Forester Club. Apparently, you feel you do too. Would be interesting to compare notes. Interested?

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Curtis ()
Date: January 01, 2015 04:07PM

Horde Wrote:
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> I know quite a bit about the Forester Club.
> Apparently, you feel you do too. Would be
> interesting to compare notes. Interested?

Happy New Year old friend. Let's keep saving turtles!

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Naked Skin is Sin ()
Date: January 01, 2015 08:11PM

Not only this loction, but Fairfax had another nudist colony as well (imagine that).

It was in the southern part of the county between 123 and the Occoquan River. Off Hampton Road as I recall.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Reston Forever ()
Date: January 01, 2015 11:32PM

The former Green Forest Colony contained sites of Native American burial grounds, and at least one Civil War era slave cemetery. It can never be built upon for these reasons.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: ham slam ()
Date: January 02, 2015 08:57AM

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Jim L. ()
Date: January 02, 2015 02:29PM

Do you have documentation re: those statements?

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Jim L. ()
Date: January 02, 2015 02:30PM

I'm an avid and active local historian in the area and have acquired quite a bit of info. on the nudist colony. Given your detailed description of its location, I'd really like to hook up and compare notes. Hopefully, you're still available to discuss. Thanks,

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Jim L. ()
Date: January 02, 2015 02:32PM

I'm an avid historian in the area and have acquired quite a bit of info. on the nudist colony. Given your detailed description of its location, I'd really like to hook up and compare notes. Hopefully, you're still available to discuss. Thanks,

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: The Bare truth ()
Date: January 02, 2015 02:43PM

A recent auto accident revealed a present day nudist colony when a car left the road and created a hole in the colony fence.
Police are looking into it.

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Posted by: p4tjm ()
Date: January 03, 2015 05:56PM

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Ddjkp ()
Date: January 03, 2015 05:57PM

here's my problem with nude beach in fairfax

the women of fairfax aren't going to show up unless all the guys there make $150,000 or better

just like bars in fairfax (no women) , there will be no women


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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: DTF ()
Date: January 03, 2015 06:23PM

Ddjkp Wrote:
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here's my problem with nude beach in fairfax
>
> the women of fairfax aren't going to show up
> unless all the guys there make $150,000 or better
>
> just like bars in fairfax (no women) , there will
> be no women
>



Really? I see plenty of hot women out. Plus not just out but DTF.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Naked Skin is Sin ()
Date: January 03, 2015 08:45PM

Jim L. Wrote:
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> I'm an avid historian in the area and have
> acquired quite a bit of info. on the nudist
> colony. Given your detailed description of its
> location, I'd really like to hook up and compare
> notes. Hopefully, you're still available to
> discuss. Thanks,

Are you referring to the north county murdering nudists, or the sexy south county nudists?

South county christian naturists are a very shy and quiet bunch that don't talk about it much.

People in the 1930s and 1940s were not as open as society is today. I understand they took the steam train from DC and MD and Southern VA to Lorton Station and had a shuttle over to the camp near the Occoquan.

May still be some ruins over there to this day since it was only "lightly" developed.

Best to let sleeping dogs lie. Some of the original members still have influential families around the area.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: zebrasoile ()
Date: January 03, 2015 09:05PM

There is an active naturist camp in Davidson, MD. Try it; you'll like it!
http://www.marylandhealthsociety.com/

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Bull Roast ()
Date: January 03, 2015 09:21PM

A grounds fee discount of 20% can be arranged for groups of 10 or more when we are not having a special event, such as the Bull Roast or other promotional event.


I'm not sure I want to know what a Bull Roast is.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: John Bartelloni ()
Date: January 05, 2015 05:10PM

I have written a paper about the Holober murders and am willing to share it.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Jim Farwell ()
Date: February 09, 2015 04:16PM

I grew up a few miles from the old Green Forest nudist camp in the 1950's. Some folks called it the Green Forester camp. All of the roads around it were dirt and gravel. Lawyers Road was paved from Vienna out to Hunter Mill Road, and then it devolved into not much more than a track, and I don't remember many homes on it. As I recall, the entrance to the nudist camp was maybe 250 yards from the west end of Lawyers road, on the north side. The camp was on a rise (not a high hill, just a rise) only a short distance north of Lawyers Road (maybe 50 yards?). There was a high wooden fence around it.

I never heard of Snake Den Lake. There's a hollow, a low area, known locally as "the snake den", full of hickory and pine scrub, and plenty of copperhead snakes, and the creek that runs through it is called Snakeden Branch, and during the mid-60's, during the development of Reston, it was dammed up to form Lake Audubon, and Lake Thoreau, too, I believe. But that hollow runs east-west, maybe half a mile north of the location of that nudist camp, and I doubt you can see much of the hollow from the camp-site.

The nudist camp had been there since...what?...maybe 1930. Fairfax County had tried to ban nudist camps, but the ban didn't pass, or didn't stick, because there were folks visiting the camp throughout the 40's, and into the 50's. We stopped a few times and tried to peak over the fence, but that was in the mid- to late-50's, and we never saw anybody nude. A couple of times we saw a car there and some people, but they had clothes on. It was pretty ramshackle.

All the local kids had heard of the murders...a family and a baby had been killed, or that's what we'd heard. We didn't have any details, so our campfire stories were likely more lurid than the facts.

Last time I drove along Lawyers Road it was paved, and the Reston development had added streets and homes everywhere, and I don't know if I could find the exact site, not today. It's very different.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: John Bartelloni ()
Date: February 09, 2015 07:55PM

Attached is the essay I wrote about the Holober Murders at the Green Forest Nudist Camp.
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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Jim Farwell ()
Date: February 09, 2015 08:42PM

to John Bartelloni - I can't read your attachment, John. My virus protection found unreadable text, and possible corruption. If I'm not the only one who can't read it, I think you're going to have to clean it up, remove bells & whistles, and reload it. ...Or maybe copy-paste the text into a series of posts?

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: NiggerWhat ()
Date: February 09, 2015 08:51PM

I'm able to read it without issue.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Bee Naked ()
Date: February 22, 2019 08:51PM

The one in Fairfax Station was called "The Outdoor Club of Washington". It was near 123 and the Occoquan.

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Date: February 22, 2019 09:44PM


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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: holy crap ()
Date: February 22, 2019 09:56PM

What does the pope do in the woods.

^^^^But I know which condos those are, I had friends that lived there

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Green Horde ()
Date: February 23, 2019 02:26PM

I've done a lot of research on the club. Even took Brother Dave to the site...

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Walking DRB Violation ()
Date: October 20, 2020 10:01AM

I'm a little late to the party, but this appears to be the place. It's a screenshot of the 1951 USGS Vienna quadrangle map. The pond circled in the graphic is the only thing in the general vicinity that could be called a lake. Odd that it was called "Snakeden lake" when it was off of Glade run instead of Snakeden run. You would think "Glade lake" would have been better branding, but I guess the members were more about stripping things down to their essence. And I'm sure that place has plenty of snakes.
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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Jim Lewis ()
Date: October 20, 2020 10:18AM

The aforementioned map is spot on as to the Forester Club location. The pool/lake was really an enlargement of the Gladys Branch. The county's 1937 aerial clearly shows the watered area.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Jim Lewis ()
Date: October 20, 2020 10:21AM

P.S. You'll note the dotted road into the colony disappeared shortly after the 1951 map. Primarily because the colony shut down due to a horrific murder that took place in Feb. 1949.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: YMPCC ()
Date: October 20, 2020 11:12AM

I'd like to get to the bottom of the Nudist story.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Full Mast ()
Date: October 20, 2020 11:34AM

YMPCC Wrote:
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> I'd like to get to the bottom of the Nudist story.


If you want a good nudist story, go the Haulover nude beach in Miami. Amazing women, incredible place.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Leaving Butt Butter is uncool ()
Date: October 20, 2020 12:08PM

Always sit on a towel as to not leave unseemly stains and aromas on the furniture.

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Re: anyone know anything about Green Forest Nudist Colony
Posted by: Sylvia Rigitoni ()
Date: October 20, 2020 12:59PM

Leaving Butt Butter is uncool Wrote:
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> Always sit on a towel as to not leave unseemly
> stains and aromas on the furniture.


Or wash your anus.

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