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do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: bluebird ()
Date: July 10, 2007 12:52PM

my kid just renewed the driver's license(turned 20) and the license is good
for 5 years.

when do young drivers get the "regular" driver's licenses, not the vertical
ones?

Thanks!

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: bluebird ()
Date: July 10, 2007 12:58PM

I just found the answer to my own question on DMV's website.

"A horizontal driver’s license is issued to persons age 21 and above. You may obtain a horizontal license when you turn age 21 for $10.00"

Here's what I don't understand... you pay $20 to renew at age 20, then another
$10 at age 21, if you want the regular/horizontal license.

Everybody who turns 20 must renew, because all licenses expires on any age
divisible by 5.(20, 25, 30, 35, and so one) However, the DMV know very well
that people who just turned 20 will most likely want to get the regular
license one year later, at age 21. Charging these young drivers an extra $10
to do so is just unreasonable...

Anybody else think so?

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: July 10, 2007 01:43PM

I don't think it is unreasonable, given that the option exists to avoid the $10 charge by declining to get a new card at 21. $10 isn't a lot of money anyway... it's noise compared to what they'll drop at the bar at their 21st birthday party.

By the way your post was a good example of how to help a community like this one. Ask a question, decide to find the answer on your own, and post the result so everyone knows the answer as a good followup, as opposed to the ask-n-dashers that post so often here. Thanks for the info!

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: jabroni ()
Date: July 10, 2007 03:25PM

Remember,

There's no need at all to have to get the regular horizontal licenses when you turn 21. Yea, it is an easier "show" for cops, bouncers, etc. to automatically disqualify you from being any younger than 21, but frankly all they have to do is check the birthdate for verification on a vertical license.

I just turned 20 too and have always thought the same question as you, but honestly, for myself and probably most other kids who will be turning 21 in the next year or two (or are under 25) don't care how their license is portrayed, as long as they have proof of age when they need to show it.

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: July 10, 2007 04:42PM

"do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21? "

no.


"when do young drivers get the "regular" driver's licenses, not the vertical
ones?"


before the date listed on the card stating when it expires.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: hold em' ()
Date: July 10, 2007 05:27PM

The state also increased the basic inspection by 10 bucks starting July 1 and registrations went up I think 20 bucks. The state seems to be on a tear to soak every driver with a valid license. What they do with all the money I have no idea.

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: duh ()
Date: July 10, 2007 06:13PM

hold em' Wrote:
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> The state also increased the basic inspection by
> 10 bucks starting July 1 and registrations went up
> I think 20 bucks. The state seems to be on a tear
> to soak every driver with a valid license. What
> they do with all the money I have no idea.

The State makes ZERO on inspections...100% percent of the inspection fee goes to the inspection station.

If the station owner can't make a reasonable profit on inspections....they stop doing them, and the lines get longer at the ones that are left.

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: hold em' ()
Date: July 10, 2007 06:57PM

The northern va transportaion board will receive 10$ per inspection to go to finance their agency which was approved by the state. I guess you could say they are actually a branch for northern va only but it is still 10 bucks more for the inspection.

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: hold em' ()
Date: July 10, 2007 07:09PM

Besides that inpections stations can be a big scam. You need new wiper blades, well I just happen to have a set here in the garage to fit your car. Only twenty bucks for the wipers plus 15 bucks to install them. What, you dont want them, well I will have to reject your car. You can go get new blades at much less cost and put them on yourself but you also get the fun of sitting in the inspection line again all day.

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: hold em' ()
Date: July 10, 2007 07:19PM

Sorry this is in pdf form, maybe Gravis or another computer guru can cut and paste page six of the report and you can see the list of extras tacked on by the state. There is something called a 5% tax on auto repairs and I hate to think what that will mean to us.
$10 more for the inspection $10 more for registraton.


http://thenovaauthority.org/PDFs/Working%20Groups/Financial_060107.pdf

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: duh ()
Date: July 10, 2007 08:50PM

hold em' Wrote:
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> The northern va transportaion board will receive
> 10$ per inspection to go to finance their agency
> which was approved by the state. I guess you could
> say they are actually a branch for northern va
> only but it is still 10 bucks more for the
> inspection.

That's something new then....for many years, a buddy of mine that owns a inspection station has dome my inspections free. His inspector writes "No Charge" on the pink inspection slip.

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: July 11, 2007 02:47AM

hold em' Wrote:
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> Sorry this is in pdf form, maybe Gravis or another
> computer guru can cut and paste page six of the
> report and you can see the list of extras tacked
> on by the state.


it's not exactly rocket science to paste this but here you go.

On April 4, 2007, the General Assembly approved the Governor’s substitute for HB 3202
(Howell). This bill provides authority for the Northern Virginia Transportation Authority
(NVTA) to implement seven different taxes and fees that collectively could raise more
than $300 million per year for transportation:
                                                                 Proposed
Tax/Fee Authorized                            Rate           Collection Agent
------------------                            ----           ----------------
Grantor’s Tax                                 40¢           Clerk of Circuit Court
Motor Vehicle Rental Tax                      2%            Dept. of Motor Vehicles
Transient Occupancy Tax                       2%            Member Jurisdictions
Safety Inspection Fee                         $10           Lockbox & State Police
Sales Tax on Auto Repairs                     5%            Dept. of Taxation
Regional Registration Fee                     $10           Dept. of Motor Vehicles
Initial Vehicle Registration Fee              1%            Dept. of Motor Vehicles

The bill becomes effective July 1, 2007. This is the report of the Financial Working
Group, tasked with developing recommendations for NVTA’s administration of the new
funding stream.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: MBF ()
Date: July 11, 2007 08:51AM

I was under the impression that those fees won't go into effect until the NVTA votes to enact them, tomorrow.

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Re: do you have to get a regular driver's license when you turn 21?
Posted by: Oldgeezer ()
Date: July 11, 2007 11:57AM

My dealer also does VA safety inspection for FREE.
It's American Service Center in Arlington. (Mercedes dealer)

I bring my 24-year-old Mercedes wagon in and just ask for
free inspection every year. In and out in 25 minutes.


duh Wrote:
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> hold em' Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The northern va transportaion board will
> receive
> > 10$ per inspection to go to finance their
> agency
> > which was approved by the state. I guess you
> could
> > say they are actually a branch for northern va
> > only but it is still 10 bucks more for the
> > inspection.
>
> That's something new then....for many years, a
> buddy of mine that owns a inspection station has
> dome my inspections free. His inspector writes
> "No Charge" on the pink inspection slip.

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