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Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Are they worth it? ()
Date: July 23, 2010 03:16PM

Based on the story out of Bell, CA, I think it might be interesting to evaluate what we pay our government employees.

Bell City Manager Paid Twice President Obama's Salary Resigns
Robert Rizzo Earns Nearly $800,000, Will Become Highest-Paid Public Pensioner in Calif.

Three municipal officials whose outsize salaries sparked a firestorm of outrage in the working-class Los Angeles suburb of Bell, Calif., resigned after midnight Friday following an emergency meeting of the city council.

The people of Bell, California, react to city administrators' high salaries.Robert Rizzo, the city manager, will leave behind a $784,637 annual salary -- nearly twice the pay of President Obama -- and will not receive a severance package. Nevertheless the 56-year-old will draw an immense pension, between $650,000 and $880,000, making him the highest-paid pensioner in California.

"Rizzo resigns and still makes more than $600,000," said Ali Saleh, founder of the Bell Association to Stop the Abuse, a grassroots community group. "That's why I call him a predator. He's taking advantage of the community whether he keeps his job or resigns."

TOP TEN FAIRFAX COUNTY EMPLOYEES:

GRIFFIN,ANTHONY H COUNTY EXECUTIVE $240,186.13
BOBZIEN,DAVID P COUNTY ATTORNEY $201,560.11
LONG,EDWARD L COUNTY EXECUTIVE $195,039.73
MOLCHANY,DAVID J COUNTY EXECUTIVE $188,470.46
STALZER,ROBERT A. COUNTY EXECUTIVE $187,577.31
AYENSU,GLORIA A ADDO Director Of HEALTH $187,577.31
HAND,JOHN MILTON COLTON MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES $177,308.77
MEARS,ROBERT LYON RETIREMENT ADMINISTRATION $176,750.08
ROHRER,DAVID M CHIEF POLICE $176,366.32
MASTIN,RONALD L CHIEF FIRE AND RESCUE DEPT $175,566.56

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more salaries ()
Date: July 23, 2010 03:33PM

HARRISON,PATRICIA DEAN DEP COUNTY EXECUTIVE $175,000.18
GIBSON,WANDA MARIA DIR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY $174,389.49
LONG,MICHAEL H DEP COUNTY ATTORNEY $173,027.92
ZOOK,JAMES P DIRECTOR OF PLANNING ZONING $168,075.44
TIANTI,CYNTHIA L DEP COUNTY ATTORNEY $166,771.70
DATTA,SUSAN W MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET DIR $166,116.91
CLAY,EDWIN S DIR COUNTY LIBRARY $165,403.47
GREENLIEF,KEVIN C DIR TAX ADMINISTRATION $165,103.33
BRAUNSTEIN,GEORGE E. EXEC DIR FFX-FALLS CHURCH $165,000.16
SELLERS,STEPHEN L DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE $164,341.84
ROHR,DAVID L ASST FIRE CHIEF $164,341.84
PETERS,CHARLES K DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE $164,341.84
LOUDER,DARYL L ASST FIRE CHIEF $164,341.84
CAUSSIN,JOHN J ASST FIRE CHIEF $164,341.84
ANDREOLI,PETER D DEP COUNTY ATTORNEY $164,301.70
PATTESON,JAMES W DIR PUBLIC WORKS $164,000.10
SAMPSON,PAULA C. DIR HSG & COMMUNITY DEVEL $163,835.78
WYNN,ROBERT S DEP COUNTY ATTORNEY $161,583.34
SWARTZ,LAURNZ A SR INVESTMENT MANAGER $160,999.90
SPELLAR,ANDREW J SR INVESTMENT MANAGER $160,000.05

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more salaries ()
Date: July 23, 2010 03:46PM

ICHTER,KATHARINE D DIR COUNTY TRANSPORTATION $156,602.78
MORRIS,JAMES A DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE $156,516.05
BARRY,STAN GLEN SHERIFF (ELECTED) $153,272.08
ROSE,EDWARD E SR ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY $152,798.05
GARCIA,VICTOR LUIS FINANCE DIRECTOR $152,356.05
MORROGH,RAYMOND F COMMONWEALTH ATTELECTED $152,330.46
BARTLETT,RANDY W DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DPWES $152,313.82
WOODRUFF,SUSAN E HUMAN RESOURCES DIR $152,296.98
GIBBONS,KAREN L SR ASST COUNTY ATTY $150,005.44
DARGLE,JOHN WALTER DIR PARK AUTHORITY $150,000.03
BOWLER,NANNETTE MARIE DIR FAMILY SERVICES $150,000.03
FREY,JOHN THOMAS COUNTY CLERK (ELECTED) $149,761.04
RYAN,THOMAS POLICE MAJOR $149,381.02
MOSER,JOSIAH L POLICE MAJOR $149,381.02
LOUDER,CHRISTINE NAPIER DEP FIRE CHIEF $149,381.02
JOHNSON,KEITH H DEP FIRE CHIEF $149,381.02
HURLOCK,ARTHUR J POLICE MAJOR $149,381.02
DODWELL,DUANE M DEP FIRE CHIEF $149,381.02

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: sane ()
Date: July 23, 2010 04:00PM

I'd say we're well below California---by quite a margin in fact.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: change in last decade ()
Date: July 23, 2010 04:01PM

Fairfax Pays 24 Employees More Than $100,000 Each; County Tops Area Governments in High-Salaried Workers

The Washington Post | October 3, 1996 | Tod Robberson


Notice the headline from 1996?

Fairfax County now pays nearly 800 employees over $100,000.

Has the private sector had wage growth like this?

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: sure ()
Date: July 23, 2010 04:13PM

Answer on private sector: yes, there are some really huge private sector salaries---more than 24 in Fairfax County alone!

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Clobbersaurus ()
Date: July 23, 2010 04:13PM

I wonder how many of those people live in Fairfax/pay county taxes.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more salaries ()
Date: July 23, 2010 04:27PM

DIAMANTES,JOHN DEP FIRE CHIEF $149,381.02
BURKE,JOHN A DEP FIRE CHIEF $149,381.02
BARRETT,SHAWN M POLICE MAJOR $149,381.02
BAKER,DERECK A DEP FIRE CHIEF $149,381.02
REILLY,MICHAEL T DEP FIRE CHIEF $149,380.94
DYER,GARRETT L DEP FIRE CHIEF $149,380.94
JENSEN,RICHARD LARRY DEPUTY DIRECTOR DIT $148,018.21
POSNER,ELLEN F ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY VII $146,451.14
MCGETTRICK,JAMES V ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY VII $146,451.14
LANGHAM,GAIL PHILLIPS ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY VII $146,451.14
KILLALEA,ANN G ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY VII $146,450.10
BYRON,BARBARA A DIRECTOR, OCRR $146,198.62
BRICKNER,MICHELLE A DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DPWES $146,187.18
KUDLESS,MARY WHITE DEP DIRCTOR CSB $146,181.36
GUBA,HOWARD J ASST DIR PUBLIC WORKS $146,181.36
GORBY,JAMES D DIRECTOR OF VEHICLE SERV $145,907.63
DISSELKOEN,KENNETH P DIR HUMAN SVCS SYS MGMT $145,706.29

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: July 23, 2010 04:31PM

Where do you get these salaries?

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: apparently not enough ()
Date: July 23, 2010 04:34PM

Police union sues county over pay
Salary freeze unlawful, union president says
by Gregg MacDonald | Staff Writer

Fairfax County's police union has filed a lawsuit against the county. The suit claims pay freezes for some public safety workers is unlawful.

As a cost-saving measure, Fairfax County has frozen pay increases for both its fiscal 2010 and 2011 budget cycles. These cuts included merit-based, performance-based and longevity pay increases.

"For both last year's budget and this year, there were no compensation increases across the board," said Sharon Bulova, chairman of the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors.

The Fairfax Coalition of Police is a labor union that was formed in 1990. It represents nearly 1,000 rank-and-file police officers and other employees of the Fairfax County Police Department.

Marshall Thielen, president of the coalition, says it is specifically stipulated in the county's personnel regulations that when public safety employees at the top of their pay-grade who have reached 15- and 20-year marks in their employment with the county "shall" receive a 5 percent longevity increase. According to Thielen, it is that specific wording within the personnel regulations -- unique to public safety workers -- that makes their increases non-negotiable.

"These increases for public safety personnel are the only pay raises detailed in the regulations, and the [Fairfax County Board of Supervisors] chose not to change that language when they voted to freeze the pay increases," he said. "That means that freezing the longevity pay for these public safety employees is unlawful under the board's own regulations."

"It is unfortunate, but these are difficult economic times," said Bulova on Monday, adding that the pay freezes apply to all county employees equally. "We cannot pick and choose who to give raises to," she said.

Thielen said he understands the county's economic predicament, but says it is no excuse to circumvent its own laws.

"It's like if a cop gives you a speeding ticket and you say, 'Well, I can't afford to pay this, so I am not going to pay it," he said. "That just isn't going to fly, and it is ironic that as police, we are the ones arguing that the law be enforced in this case."

Thielen said he regrets resorting to a lawsuit but adds that Virginia labor laws put Fairfax County police at a disadvantage with other nearby jurisdictions that have collective bargaining powers.

"This lawsuit is the last thing I wanted to do, for many reasons," he said. "We never want to resort to litigation, but without collective bargaining there isn't much recourse. We now find ourselves at the point where litigation is the only alternative to getting this issue addressed."

Bulova said the first time she heard from Thielen on the issue was when the lawsuit had been filed.

The Fairfax County Fire & Rescue Department, and Sheriff's office, to which the personnel stipulation may also apply, did not choose to join the police union in the lawsuit.

"I believe the Board of Supervisors is handling this economic crisis as best it can and that freezing pay levels for employees, as painful as that may be, was a necessary step in balancing the budget," said Fairfax County Sheriff Stan Barry.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more salaries ()
Date: July 23, 2010 04:57PM

SATOURI,RAJA A. HEALTH DEPT DIR FOR MEDICAL SERVICES $145,619.76
POROPATICH,CARY OLMSTEAD HEALTH PUBLIC HEALTH DOCTOR $144,049.34
DUKE,ANDREW L FIRE AND RESCUE DEP FIRE CHIEF $142,268.09
SMITH,SHARON REILLY POLICE POLICE MAJOR $142,268.05
ROESSLER,EDWIN C POLICE POLICE MAJOR $142,268.05
FITZGERALD,MARY C PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIR PUBLIC AFFAIRS $141,156.29
WEISS,ALAN M COUNTY ATTORNEY ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY VI $140,608.83
OAKLEY,ALBERT W COUNTY ATTORNEY ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY VI $140,608.83
MCHUGH,MARILYN S COUNTY ATTORNEY ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY VI $140,608.83
WARD,ERIN C COUNTY ATTORNEY ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY VI $140,235.26
WHITLEY,JAMES F SHERIFF CHIEF DEPUTY SHERIFF $139,998.56
LOAN,JAMES W SHERIFF CHIEF DEPUTY SHERIFF $139,998.56
LEDFORD,MARCIA GAIL ADMIN FOR HUMAN SERVICES DIR HUMAN SVCS ADMIN $139,500.19
WALES,LEONARD P MANAGEMENT & BUDGET COUNTY DEBT MANAGER $139,236.86
PAYNE,JOHN L HOUSING & COMMUNITY DEVELOPMT DEP DIR HOUSING & COMM DEV $139,236.86
LEGA,TERESITA MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES PSYCHIATRIST $139,236.86
KIRKPATRICK,RONALD N CAPITAL FACILITIES DIR OF PLNG AND DESIGN DIV $139,236.86
KARPICK,RONALD JOHN HEALTH PUBLIC HEALTH DOCTOR $139,236.86
GUTIERREZ,FE M HEALTH PUBLIC HEALTH DOCTOR $139,236.86
GODFREY,ELISSA M MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES PSYCHIATRIST $139,236.86
DOUGHTY,JOYCE M SOLID WASTE DIR SOLID WASTE DISP/RES RECOV $139,236.86
CORNET,PARNELL A MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES PSYCHIATRIST $139,236.86

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more salaries ()
Date: July 23, 2010 05:07PM

CARINCI,CRAIG A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DIR OF STORMWATER PLANNING $139,236.86
BALL,ACHANA HEALTH PUBLIC HEALTH DOCTOR $139,236.86
TEARE,ELIZABETH D COUNTY ATTORNEY SR ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY $138,672.77
SOUDER,STEPHEN HARVEY DEPT OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMM DIR, DEPT OF PUB SAFETY COM $138,560.66
SMITHBERGER,JEFFREY M SOLID WASTE DIR SOLID WASTE COLL/RECYCL $138,555.25
MOHSENIN,SHAHRAM WASTEWATER DIR WASTEWATER PLAN/MON DIV $138,164.83
SELDEN,FRED R PLANNING & ZONING ASST PLANNING DIRECTOR $138,028.80
PAXTON,MARY E INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INFO TECH PROGRAM DIRECTOR II $137,182.24
AWADELKARIM,FAISAL AWADALLA MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES PSYCHIATRIST $137,161.86
MESSINGER,CYNTHIA E PARK AUTHORITY DEP DIR PARK AUTHORITY $136,309.47
MCLANE,EILEEN M PLANNING & ZONING ZONING ADMINISTRATOR $136,078.18
MORRISON,KEITH D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.55
COX,DEAN W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.55
BYDUME,GLENN A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.55
BURKHAMMER,CARLTON G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.55
BUCKLEY,CRAIG N FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.55
BARRERO,MANUEL A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.55
WALSH,JAMES J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
SCHAFF,MICHAEL C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
ROUSSILLON,JEROME A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
ROHR,MARK A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: complex ()
Date: July 23, 2010 05:19PM

It is hard to make a comparison with the private sector on many of these jobs because they don't exist in the private sector. But doctor does (and 139K doesn't sound like a lot for a doctor). Psychiatrist (139K for a psychiatrist is cheap) and attorney probably also compare. There could be some comparison based on how many people are being managed by someone (battalion chief for example). Also, the responsibility of that job---how much capital equipment does he oversee? What are his daily responsibilities? What skills and training are required? These things need to be taken into account. Job title doesn't tell a whole lot about a job sometimes.

You can reduce their salaries in a recession like this and they will have no other job available---but when good times come again, things will have to change in order to attract qualified people. You can't reduce them too quickly since they have obligations to meet based on their current salaries---that would affect the overall economy of the county as well. You also want to be careful about retirement because they might be forced to stay long past their physical/mental ability to work (and in the case of fire department this could become a danger to the public). The salary thing is more complicated than just listing the salaries. Believe me, I've seen public employees who stayed way too long and practically had to drag themselves to the retirement ceremony.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ()
Date: July 23, 2010 05:27PM

WHAT IS THEIR TOTAL PACKAGE?

RETIREMENT, MEDICAL,TRAVEL. DO THEY GET A CAR, ETC.

WE NEED TO GET RID OF AT LEAST HALF OF THESE NON WORKERS.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: County resident 33 ()
Date: July 23, 2010 06:05PM

more salaries Wrote:
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> CARINCI,CRAIG A STORMWATER
> MANAGEMENT DIR OF STORMWATER PLANNING
> $139,236.86
> BALL,ACHANA HEALTH
> PUBLIC HEALTH DOCTOR
> $139,236.86
> TEARE,ELIZABETH D COUNTY ATTORNEY
> SR ASST COUNTY ATTORNEY
> $138,672.77
> SOUDER,STEPHEN HARVEY DEPT OF PUBLIC
> SAFETY COMM DIR, DEPT OF PUB SAFETY COM
> $138,560.66
> SMITHBERGER,JEFFREY M SOLID WASTE
> DIR SOLID WASTE COLL/RECYCL
> $138,555.25
> MOHSENIN,SHAHRAM WASTEWATER
> DIR WASTEWATER PLAN/MON DIV
> $138,164.83
> SELDEN,FRED R PLANNING & ZONING
> ASST PLANNING DIRECTOR
> $138,028.80
> PAXTON,MARY E INFORMATION
> TECHNOLOGY INFO TECH PROGRAM DIRECTOR II
> $137,182.24
> AWADELKARIM,FAISAL AWADALLA MENTAL HEALTH
> SERVICES PSYCHIATRIST
> $137,161.86
> MESSINGER,CYNTHIA E PARK AUTHORITY
> DEP DIR PARK AUTHORITY
> $136,309.47
> MCLANE,EILEEN M PLANNING & ZONING
> ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
> $136,078.18
> MORRISON,KEITH D FIRE AND RESCUE
> FIRE BATTALION CHIEF
> $135,635.55
> COX,DEAN W FIRE AND RESCUE
> FIRE BATTALION CHIEF
> $135,635.55
> BYDUME,GLENN A FIRE AND RESCUE
> FIRE BATTALION CHIEF
> $135,635.55
> BURKHAMMER,CARLTON G FIRE AND RESCUE
> FIRE BATTALION CHIEF
> $135,635.55
> BUCKLEY,CRAIG N FIRE AND RESCUE
> FIRE BATTALION CHIEF
> $135,635.55
> BARRERO,MANUEL A FIRE AND RESCUE
> FIRE BATTALION CHIEF
> $135,635.55
> WALSH,JAMES J FIRE AND RESCUE
> FIRE BATTALION CHIEF
> $135,635.43
> SCHAFF,MICHAEL C FIRE AND RESCUE
> FIRE BATTALION CHIEF
> $135,635.43
> ROUSSILLON,JEROME A FIRE AND RESCUE
> FIRE BATTALION CHIEF
> $135,635.43
> ROHR,MARK A FIRE AND RESCUE
> FIRE BATTALION CHIEF
> $135,635.43


I had no idea that these people were paid so little. Hopefully this recession will be behind us at some point in the near future and we can boost the salary of these dedicated individuals who are willing to serve the public at these reduced income levels. Remember this is Fairfax county where 200k is nearly poverty level. I would hate to see us loose these highly talented people to other counties or the private sector.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: OMFG ()
Date: July 23, 2010 08:03PM

I'm an engineer, and I don't make as much as these fat, stupid, mustached firemen?? Had I known that I wouldn't have gone to college. Is it too late for a career change??

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: July 23, 2010 08:35PM

Is that salary the actual current pay, or just the high end of the pay scale for their position? There is a huge difference between step 1 and whatever their final step pay level is. Based on the similarity of the numbers I would guess it is their potential high end pay and not necessarily their actual current salary.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: say ()
Date: July 23, 2010 10:26PM

Are they worth it? Wrote:
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> TOP TEN FAIRFAX COUNTY EMPLOYEES:
>
> GRIFFIN,ANTHONY H COUNTY EXECUTIVE
> $240,186.13


If Griffin was CEO of a multi billion-dollar corporation, his pay package would be in the millions with millions more in stock options.

Griffin makes peanuts.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Jack Hurlock is da man ()
Date: July 23, 2010 11:45PM

HURLOCK,ARTHUR J POLICE MAJOR $149,381.02

This man has dedicated 30+ years of his life to law enforcement in Fairfax County. He is worth far more than what he is being paid. Fortunately, for us, he apparently finds his compensation to be adequate to retain him.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: forpeople ()
Date: July 24, 2010 07:41AM

We the people of the United States of Fairfax. While Griffin runs Fairfax like a business. When was last time (ever) we was out there with the people. We the people of the United States of Fairfax are not heard. If they want to help economy. Cut all their pay by 10% as a service to the people of the United States of Fairfax.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: yagaga ()
Date: July 24, 2010 07:45AM

Can you get us the Fairfax Connector man that is at Vienna Station he is bus coordinator/dispater, shorter stocky dark skinned gentlemen. He is always there smoking and we are sweating in the heat waiting for our late bus. I wonder how much he is paid to get these breaks.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: man-up people ()
Date: July 24, 2010 08:21AM

I find it amusing that when the economy is doing well, no one could care less about what the civil servants are doing let along what they make as long as they're making more $$$ than them and look down on them. You see it's just like the old parable about the Grasshopper and the Ant. The Grasshopper lives for the moment and doesn't save any food at all, while the Ant is constantly storing it away for the future.

Just like you pack of myopic babies, you live Waay! beyond your means by mortgaging your future in the name of instant gratification, BMWs, big houses, lavish vacations by constantly chasing the big salary. Well, there's a trade-off, lack of job security and you must plan for your retirement. Civil servants in turn forgo the larger salary in lieu of a more stable job and a pension plan. See where the Ant/Grasshopper comparison kicks in?

Free will is a bitch and in most cases, YOU have consciously made a series of choices (like those old "which way" books) that lead you to where you are today.

Grow up and stop blaming others for your misfortune, DO something about it, It used to be the American way.
- Just my two cents, which adjusted to the impending OBUMMER hyperinflation is worth nothing.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more info please ()
Date: July 24, 2010 08:35AM

Please get us the lowest paid people in Fairfax County also. Also the school employees are not on here. I think you would find them vastly underpaid (except Dale and a few others) compared to these. There does need to be a look at ALL levels of salary in the county.

Also look at federal salaries. The people I see with the most money are ex military. They have really sweet deals for education, retirement, shopping, medical and even burial. Not saying they're not worth it. I don't think you should count medical in the equation in any case---we're all paying for medical for everyone else whether you think so or not. You pay whether they actually have insurance or not---because we don't leave people to die by the side of the road (yet).

Look---Virginia is not California. Not even close.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: wuss ()
Date: July 24, 2010 08:40AM

OMFG Wrote:
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> I'm an engineer, and I don't make as much as these
> fat, stupid, mustached firemen?? Had I known
> that I wouldn't have gone to college. Is it too
> late for a career change??


You should be payed much more, you might suffer a paper cut in the course of your dangerous day

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: you think ()
Date: July 24, 2010 08:49AM

man-up people Wrote:
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> I find it amusing that when the economy is doing
> well, no one could care less about what the civil
> servants are doing let along what they make as
> long as they're making more $$$ than them and look
> down on them. You see it's just like the old
> parable about the Grasshopper and the Ant. The
> Grasshopper lives for the moment and doesn't save
> any food at all, while the Ant is constantly
> storing it away for the future.
>
> Just like you pack of myopic babies, you live
> Waay! beyond your means by mortgaging your future
> in the name of instant gratification, BMWs, big
> houses, lavish vacations by constantly chasing the
> big salary. Well, there's a trade-off, lack of job
> security and you must plan for your retirement.
> Civil servants in turn forgo the larger salary in
> lieu of a more stable job and a pension plan. See
> where the Ant/Grasshopper comparison kicks in?
>
> Free will is a bitch and in most cases, YOU have
> consciously made a series of choices (like those
> old "which way" books) that lead you to where you
> are today.
>
> Grow up and stop blaming others for your
> misfortune, DO something about it, It used to be
> the American way.
> - Just my two cents, which adjusted to the
> impending OBUMMER hyperinflation is worth nothing.


You are right about that, during the good years in Fairfax County some of my neighbors made comments about the shitty hours I worked, (including 7 Christmas in a row), and how I was missing out on all the perks including bonuses, trips etc that their companies gave them. Since a bunch of them are laid off,now I hear how I am double dipping for working for the county again, fuck them and all the gloating private sector assholes

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Think some more ()
Date: July 24, 2010 08:49AM

Don't let the media, etc. (run by the filthy rich) brainwash you into thinking that your problem is with the middle and lower classes in this country! They want us to sit around attacking each other and forget that THEY are the big fat problem. As long as we snipe at each other over nickels and dimes, they will sit back and watch the fun (and be ignored by us). The local level is not where the problem is with the financial breakdown---but that is where it has come to rest because it has been "pushed down" to this level. We need to keep our sights on regulating at the highest levels so this never happens again. Yes, we need to look at salaries---but this is not going to solve our problem by any means. At the end of the day, the public workers are going to be very important in our attempts to get through all of this---without public infrastructure we are toast. Just look at countries where the public system doesn't work---nothing else works either. Ronald Reagan took away any pride there may have been in working in the public sector and it has been downhill for the public sector since then---and yes, you get service problems because people sort of tend to act in the manner in which they are treated. If you treat them as second class, they will act like they are second class. If you cut the number of public employees in half, you will get real big service problems (you think the rest will work twice as hard?) Back in the 50's and 60's public service was revered and kids admired policemen and firemen, etc. It has come to the point now where those people get criticized constantly (teachers also). Who will want to do these jobs? There are two sides to every coin.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Zero ()
Date: July 24, 2010 09:13AM

OMFG,

Your assessment of the firefighter salaries is accurate. Several of those chiefs making 130K and more do not hold an advanced degree. The salaries are absurd and are perpetuated by surrounding jurisdictions. i.e. Once Montgomery County firefighters begin making more than Fairfax, the union points this out to the board of supervisors. It's a cycle that will never end. I understand that these employees are doing an unusual job but every one of them understood that when they signed up with Fairfax. The starting salary for New York City firefighters is $43,074. Here in Fairfax it's $48,877.71. Granted, it's not a lot of money for this area but considering that only a GED is required to apply, it's an impressive sum. Fairfax firefighters work an average of 56 hours per week or $16.78 per hour.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: cold ()
Date: July 24, 2010 09:32AM

48K is an impressive sum? When you have to spend half of it on rent? Where are they supposed to live---at mom's house? Or with the immigrants in a boarding house? Or maybe we can pick up some firefighters in front of a 7-11? Is that who you want to show up when you call 911?

Who cares if you have a GED or a PhD---you've gotta live somehow. Bill Gates doesn't even have a bachelor's degree (but I think he has an honorary PhD). Get over the degrees. The guys who have PhDs would make pretty poor firefighters---it takes some brawn---not all brains---to do the job---it's a VERY tiring job. So only brains count in this world? Too bad if life has thrown you different circumstances---there's nothing for you.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Retotired() ()
Date: July 24, 2010 09:49AM

What a sham of a post. Quit assuming if you are smart enough for an advanced degree, you can't do the "manual" labor. Fire fighting could be tiring. It does have a huge element of risk. However, you need to also state that "most" of the time, these public servants are NOT fighting fires. The spend alot of time waiting.....

(P.S. I live near a fire station and have a good understanding of how these fine servants spend their days....)


Great pay and benefits! Many people would love-to-get their job!

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: cold ()
Date: July 24, 2010 09:54AM

Okay, so start hiring PhDs to fight fires. They probably want those jobs.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: true cost ()
Date: July 24, 2010 12:54PM

When I was a kid we had a volunteer fire department. It was cheap (no pay, no benefits). There was nobody waiting around for fires. But if you had a fire, there was waiting around for firemen to arrive. I wonder how that would affect the cost of your home insurance (?)

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: askhim ()
Date: July 24, 2010 09:02PM

Jeff Katz is paid by county and coordinates the fire volunteer people. He was not on the list, but he looks like he does not get paid good.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: say ()
Date: July 24, 2010 10:18PM

I was driving on West Ox the other day and saw a bunch of Fire Dept recruits out for a run. So FD must be hiring, and I think PD is too. Of course, they are ALWAYS hiring school bus drivers, which if you really hustle, you can knock down $30K a year, with all summer off!

If these jobs are so great, you motherfuckers ought to apply and jump on the gravy train.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: askhim ()
Date: July 24, 2010 10:25PM

I bet you they cut on fire trucks and they were just running to fire. It was very hot so good thing firemen have water.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: reader ()
Date: July 24, 2010 11:28PM

Are you aware that part of the fireman's union dues goes toward election funds for the supervisors they think will lean in their direction when they want raises.
Just go ask Connelly. He was in their pocket.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: cutterjob ()
Date: July 25, 2010 08:22AM

I know Jeff has staff like a lady who is the CERT coordinator. That is taxpayer waste.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: clooney ()
Date: July 25, 2010 10:23AM

HAND,JOHN MILTON COLTON MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES $177,308.77


dude.. dont tell Spicoli Mr. Hand is making that much!
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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: DrFireman ()
Date: July 25, 2010 07:17PM

I have my masters degree and I'm a firefighter. So stop your whining

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: geniusfireman ()
Date: July 25, 2010 07:40PM

I must comment on the fireman who said he was a Masters degree. He calls himself Dr. Fireman. Dude... you dont get Dr. from a Masters. Where did you get your degree. I think you might not be the real thing. I mean no disrepect for our finest. Including all those volunteer firemen. Thank you for doing this stuff. But Dr. Fireman with Masters is not right no matter what your profession.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Fisty ()
Date: July 25, 2010 07:43PM

I hold multiple advanced degrees in fisting teenage and maternal vagina and asshole

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more salaries ()
Date: July 26, 2010 09:22AM

PRICE,JOHN S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
MULLINS,ALFRED E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
LASSITER,REGINALD O FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
KANE,MARK T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
HEDRICK,JAMES L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
HAWKINS,CHARLES R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
HARRINGTON,TYRONE J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
GRAY,DANIEL V FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
GRALING,THOMAS W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
EVERETT,JOHN L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
ESHLEMAN,EDITH M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
DELI,MIKE A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
BUNCH,GREG A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
BRINKLEY,EDWARD M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
BRENDEL,BRIAN C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF $135,635.43
CHIANESE,CATHERINE A COUNTY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT COUNTY EXECUTIVE $135,057.94
MUSE,CATHY A PURCHASING & SUPPLY MGMT PURCHASING AND SUPPLY DIRECTOR $134,751.55
JARRATT,GORDON S INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INFO TECH PROGRAM DIRECTOR II $134,467.63
GUPTA,KAILASH B WASTEWATER DIR WASTEWATER TREATMENT $134,441.42
WOOTEN,ALAN D INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY SVCS DIR INTELLECT DISABILITY SVCS $134,146.27
WILLIAMS,WILLIAM H. ALCOHOL AND DRUG SERVICES DIR OF ALCOHOL & DRUG SERVICES $133,072.78

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: lots of money for fires ()
Date: July 26, 2010 09:44AM

Geez, I never would have guessed that there were so many fire and rescue battalion chiefs! In fact a huge percentage of the list seems to be fire department related.

I wonder if there are some federal funds (post 911 or Homeland Security grants) that have to be spent on the fire department ??? earmarked for that?? Is that why there is so much money there? If so, it's not a county tax issue, but a federal one. I know that federal money comes into the schools and it has to be spent certain ways (and cannot be spent other ways).

Does anybody know about that?

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more salaries ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:08AM

RYAN,THOMAS W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.56
RYAN,MATTHEW P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.56
PISANI,RALPH M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.56
NESMITH,VECKSER T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.56
MICHEL,PETER J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.56
HOLLINGSWORTH,GEORGE A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.56
CAPLE,SANDRA K FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.56
BRENNAN,MARK G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.56
WHITE,PAUL L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
WENTZEL,WAYNE P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
WEALAND,THOMAS J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
TSCHANN,GLENN F FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
TOBIN,DAVID P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
THOMPSON,KENDALL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
THOMPSON,CHRISTOPHER FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
SYDNOR,RONALD B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
SMITH,RICHARD C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
RIFFE,TIMOTHY W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
POLEN,ELTON W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
PARKER,PAUL H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
PALAU,JOSEPH FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
NASH,MARK A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
MORAVITZ,BRIAN E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
MONTAGUE,DONALD P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
MOHLER,ROBERT M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
MILLER,STEPHEN E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
MCGEHEE,ROGER T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
MCCULLEN,MICHAEL G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
MARSHALL,TODD M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
LEETE,JOHN L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
LANGE,DAVID G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
KISER,JOSEPH L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
KEYS,MICHAEL B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
JOHNSON,JAMES B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
JENKINS,LARRY E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
ISTVAN,MICHAEL A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
HEIDER,JAMES C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
HARRISON,JAMES T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
HARRIS,BRENDAN B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
HALL,TODD S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
GRIGG,WESLEY D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
GRIFFIN,RAYMOND E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
GRAHAM,PETER M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
GEMSHEIM,RONALD A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
GARCIA,MICHAEL J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
DUBETSKY,KEITH M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
DIZE,GARY C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
DEAN,TROY H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
CONRAD,DAVID P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
BUTLER,LEROY L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
BERQUIST,ROBYNN M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44
BEASLEY,OSCAR L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $110,800.44

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more fire and rescue ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:16AM

TILLES,CHRISTOPHER FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN II $110,283.26
LUDEMAN,KEITH M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN II $110,283.26
JENKINS,JASON R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN II $110,283.26
HESSEL,KIT R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN II $110,283.26

CASTILLO,RAUL G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $105,763.63
WALKER,TIMOTHY C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $105,763.55
CHITTENDEN,THOMAS F FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $105,763.55
TOLLE,JEFFREY A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.47
RODRIGUEZ,RONNIE A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.47
ROBB,NATALIE D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.47
O'BRIEN,STEPHEN TODD FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.47
HALL,DAVID W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.47
GRUENDEL,DAVID K FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.47
DEVERA,SAMUEL THOMAS SAMSON FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.47
DANIELS,DANNY J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.47
CRAWFORD,TRACY ELLEN BRINKLEY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.47
WATERS,CHESTER E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.43
MILLER,VICTOR MONTAGUE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.43
MENSAH,FRANCIS O FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.43
MCNAMARA,KERWIN ANDREW FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.43
BAILEY,WILLIE FITZGERALD FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.43
WALSER,JOHN L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.18
MCFARLAND,STEVEN T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.18
FLANIGAN,COLIN D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.18
BANASIK,ROBERT ALAN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $105,524.18
VACCHIO,JOSEPH J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $100,728.70
LAULER,DAVID M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $100,728.70
COEN,KEVIN R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $100,728.70
CHABAL,JOHN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $100,728.70

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:19AM

Fucking Fire and Rescue officer's salaries rape taxpayers again... wait..

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Who is Gonads & Strife?
Outing on FFU: I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all Robert Paulson...or Eesh...or Eli...

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:23AM

I think the OP is just bitter at being rejected for a county job and is now on some crusade to hold these employees accountable for their salaries. I'm sure the OP wouldn't complain if he/she was making this income.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Could be ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:34AM

eesh Wrote:
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> I think the OP is just bitter at being rejected
> for a county job and is now on some crusade to
> hold these employees accountable for their
> salaries. I'm sure the OP wouldn't complain if
> he/she was making this income.

Could be, but with bene's it's incredibly generous and expensive in retirement for the taxpayers. Why do we always hear this bitching "but where will the teachers and public servants live" when they talk about cost in Fairfax county. They are not the ones we need to worry about. There are a ton of lisitng every day for jobs in this area on Craigs list and they have all sorts of requirements and rarely pay over 60 K, and your're funding your own retirement, plus theirs.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:40AM

Could be Wrote:
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> There are a ton
> of lisitng every day for jobs in this area on
> Craigs list and they have all sorts of
> requirements and rarely pay over 60 K, and your're
> funding your own retirement, plus theirs.




1. If you conduct a search for careers solely on Craigslist, there's a real problem. No shit you can't find anything that pays a decent salary on Craigslist.


2. If you have a problem with living in a county that pays a competitive salary for competent employees, move out. I hear Floyd County is a pretty cheap place to live.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Fire Dept cheap employees ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:43AM

UNDER $100K!!!!

Give them a raise!! How can they afford to live in Fairfax County???


TORRES,MICHAEL E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.10
ROBERTS,WILLIAM G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.10
REGAN,MICHAEL P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.10
PAPOUTSIS,THOMAS J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.10
MISCOVICH,TIMOTHY J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.10
LANDSTREET,MICHAEL W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.10
FORBACH,ERIC D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.10
EDMONDSON,KEVIN A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.10
CONNOLLY,THOMAS M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.10
BRULEY,JON P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.10
YOUNG,DANIEL T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
WRIGHT,DAVID S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
WOOLF,KELLY W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
WILSON,JAMES D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
WILLIAMS,MARCUS D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
WHITE,MICHAEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
WHEELER,ROBERT E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
WHARTON,JEFFREY T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
WEAVER,GEORGE W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
WALMER,JACK L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
WALLACE,KRISTIN A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
VOZZOLA,GARY W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
VARNAU,DALE L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
URPS,DANNY R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
UNGER,DANA R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
SNYDER,JON W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
SMITH,LESLIE C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
OUDEKERK,JOHN N FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
OLEKSIA,JOSEPH A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
O'CONNOR,SEAN J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
NEUHAUS,BRUCE A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MULLINS,ANTHONY D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MORRISON,GERARD J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MORRIS,JAMES T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MORIN,GARY E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MONSEUR,EDMOND D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MILLS,CHARLES D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MELOY,THOMAS C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MASTERS,PETER B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MARTIN,CHARLES A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MARKS,MICHAEL J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
MALOF,MATTHEW P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
LUECKE,CRAIG S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
LOW,JAMES R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
KRATOCHVIL,JOSEPH M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
KLOPP,JEFFREY F FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
JOHNSON,WALTER E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
JOHNSON,RICHARD L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
JACKSON,GLENN C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
GRIFFIN,THOMAS J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
FOWLER,TIM E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
ERLENDSON,ERIC G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
DYE,BEN A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
DICKERSON,ROBERT W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
DIAZ,GEORGE L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
DENNIS,JAMES L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
DAWLEY,RICHARD A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
CLARK,STEVEN D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
CHATMON,CARLTON FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
BUNDY,WILLIAM F FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
BRYANT,DAVID M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
BRIGHT,RICHARD E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
BRASWELL,LAWRENCE M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
BOWMAN,EDWARD D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
BOSWELL,KARRIE L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
BOOKWALTER,JAMES R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
BENDO,PETE J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
BARROW,ARNOLD J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
ALLEN,JEFFREY R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
ALLEN,CLIFTON FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
ADAMS,CHARLES F FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,932.05
STRAUBINGER,MARC L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,931.76
FERGUSON,SEAN E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $95,931.76

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Could be ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:48AM

eesh Wrote:
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>
> 1. If you conduct a search for careers solely on
> Craigslist, there's a real problem. No shit you
> can't find anything that pays a decent salary on
> Craigslist.

It's a legitmate source. I've been to head hunters that send you to the same jobs
>
> 2. If you have a problem with living in a county
> that pays a competitive salary for competent
> employees, move out. I hear Floyd County is a
> pretty cheap place to live.

Unfortunately some of us have to.

Glad you're set.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more poor firefighters ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:51AM

WHITE,CINDY SUE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
WELLS,OSCAR T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
STRICKLEN,JAMES R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
SHAW,DANIEL D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
SCHWARZMANN,DAVID FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
RATHBONE,BARRY JAMES FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
PERKINS,JAMES A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
MERRITT,JOSEPH DONALD FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
MASON,GLENN A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
MAHAM,BARRY W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
LOPEZ,MATTHEW MOLEIRO FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
KRAUT,SCOTT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
KELLY,PATRICK T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
FISCHER,MICHAEL J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
EVANS,SEAN T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
EDWARDS,KEVIN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
CUNNINGHAM,CHARLES R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
BURNS,MATTHEW CHARLES FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07
ATWELL,WILLIAM J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE CAPTAIN I $95,713.07

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:53AM

$100k is MEDIAN income for an INDIVIDUAL WORKER in Fairfax County.

How many people does a Captain of firefighters manage? 5-10? $110k for a manager of skilled people is not in any way out of line.

Especially given the danger involved.

I'm glad we pay them that much. Pay them less, and they'll go elsewhere.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: firefighters on welfare ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:57AM

WILDMAN,KENNETH A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
WERESNICK,NICHOLAS FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
WEBB,DENNIS J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
VAUGHT,ROBERT L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
TRAMMELL,ANTONIO DEVINE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
TOBALSKE,BONNIE J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
STRICKLAND,REX E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
STARKS,DWAN D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
SELLERS,DAVID KELLEY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
SCHAUB,RICHARD H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
ROCHE,KARL D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
RICHTER,JOHN W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
PIZZO,JOHN T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
PIFER,RONALD SCOTT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
OTOOLE,H TIMOTHY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
NACY,MATTHEW J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
MELTON,SHEREE E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
LIDDELL,ANTHONY LEE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
LEYDEN,SVENJA ELLEN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
LEWIS,EVAN JOHN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
LAVEROCK,KENNETH M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
KULEY,RONALD J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
JOHNSON,STEPHEN M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
JACKSON,LLOYD B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
HYDEN,WILLIAM T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
HORTON,CHARLES W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
HIGGINBOTHAM,JOHN E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
HENDERSHOT,MICHAEL D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
DECARLO,EDWARD D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
BURROUGHS,EARL J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
BEST,WILLIAM MARVIN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
BARRERA,MERVIN E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.71
SLEPETZ,RICHARD S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.58
ROGERS,JOHN W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.58
RAY,CHARLEEN L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.58
BROWN,CYNTHIA LEE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.58
TOMASELLO,PATRICIA FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.49
ROBBINS,GEORGE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.49
FAYSON,TERRANCE LAMONT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.49
BROCK,ADAM C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.49
ALVARO,ROCCO FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.49
PLUNKETT,MARK J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.42
HOUGHTON,TRENTON L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.42
HOBGOOD,JAMES PETER FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.42
EDWARDS,DEREK A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $91,363.42

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: July 26, 2010 10:59AM

Tell you what dipshit, why don't you spend twenty years saving peoples' lives, putting out fire, endangering your life, then complain about having a solid retirement and living wage.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: how many fires are there? ()
Date: July 26, 2010 11:14AM

I certainly agree that a premium shoud be paid for someone who is willing to put their lives on the line for someone else.

HOWEVER, last time I checked, there are not a lot of life threating fires burning 24/7.

I say pay them $60k-$70k per year which is more than generous given their education, and if they save a life or do something other than just hold a hose out, then pay them a bonus of say $10k.

Other than that, the taxpayers are getting taken to the cleaners BIG TIME.

No wonder, the average worker in the private sector has only saved on average $30k in their 401k. All their money is going to these outlandish salaries and retirement packages of the public employees.

The fact that they are demanding raises is criminal.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: July 26, 2010 11:18AM

how many fires are there? Wrote:
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>
> I say pay them $60k-$70k per year which is more
> than generous given their education....




With so many universities offering graduate degrees in fire science, I can see your point. There is no reason a person that puts his or her life in danger should make this much income.

Dumbass.


Going back to what I said, you are probably just bitter that you got rejected by the county for a good job.



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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: July 26, 2010 11:23AM

I don't want the lowest bidder responding to any of my emergency situations...

----------------------------------------------------

Who is Gonads & Strife?
Outing on FFU: I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all Robert Paulson...or Eesh...or Eli...

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: fire technicians ()
Date: July 26, 2010 11:30AM

UPCHURCH,ROBERT L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.56
BUCHANAN,CLYDE M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.56
BRINKERHOFF,JOHN R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.56
WOODWARD,RODNEY H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
WILLIAMS,THOMAS C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
WILKERSON,JAMES E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
WASHENKO,GREGORY D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
THORSELL,JEAN E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
SMITH,JEFFREY L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
SCHIRMACHER,BARBARA G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
SALLBERG,KARL C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
REINS,UWE B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
REEDY,THOMAS W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
PROPST,RANDY H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
OWENSBY,WILLIAM M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
MOORE,JAMES M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
MOORE,ERIC D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
MITCHELL,DANIEL C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
MAYERS,JOHN C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
MAY,DAVID J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
MASHIANA,RAVINDER S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
LUCAS,MARK F FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
LINHART,JOHN F FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
LEWIS,MICHAEL C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
LEATHERMAN,RANDAL A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
LAKE,MITCHELL D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
KIELER,JOSEPH P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
HOOD,GEORGE C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
HIGGINS,DAVID J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
HEDRICK,WILLIAM V FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
GREENE,CECIL L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
GEORGE,EUGENE L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
DORAN,ANTHONY E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
DOMMEL,DALE W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
DEVEREAUX,PHILIP C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
COMER,ALLEN O FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
CAPPS,JOHN L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48
BERNER,TERRY JANINE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $87,582.48

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: 2 times what a teacher makes ()
Date: July 26, 2010 11:32AM

WILLIAMS,JAMES H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
WHETSELL,MICHAEL W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
WEINZAPFEL,ERICK L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
WATSON,CLIFFORD A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
VAUGHAN,RODNEY S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
VANNOY,WILLIAM D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
TRUDEAU,RICHARD MICHAEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
STREETER,JOHN W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
SPEAR,JESSICA P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
SNYDER,GLENN MICHAEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
SMITH,JOHN A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
SILVA,BARBARA R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
SHEEHAN,PATRICK FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
SEASE,MICHAEL LEROY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
ROCHA,VITOR MANUEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
RICE,DUSTIN K FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
PRIMROSE,SCOTT FRANKLIN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
POWELL,DIRON D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
PITTMAN,CHRISTOPHER ALLEN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
PETERS,JOHN E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
PAYNE,EDWARD L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
NORRIS,STEVEN D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
NORKO,JANET THERESA FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
MYERS,DAVID E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
MURPHY,EMILY LORIMER FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
MORELAND,WILLIAM FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
MENTON,MARK P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
MAYHEW,THOMAS R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
MATTHEWS,COREY ALPHONSO FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
MARSHALL,HAYWOOD PHILIPS FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
LOUZONIS,MATTHEW J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
LANCING,RICHARD M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
KOTECKI,DENNIS MATTHEW FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
KEMP,CHERYL LYNNE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
JOHNSON,CHRISTOPHER LEE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
JENKINS,PHILIP A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
HOOD,MARLIN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
HENRY,STEVEN T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
GUSA,ROBERT WAYNE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
GREULICH,MICHAEL J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
GORHAM,TODD R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
GOFF,JARED B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
GAERTNER,DAVID S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
FLINT,THOMAS L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
EVANS,JOHN DAVID FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
ENGELHARDT,MICHAEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
EBERSOLE,MARK D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
DOJCAK,GREGG J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
DEIHL,WALTER ALLEN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
DAVIS,MICHAEL B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
CUFFEE,LARRY MCCOY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
COFFELT,KENNETH L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
CERZULLO,KEITH W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
CARVER,THOMAS ROBERT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
CARRILLO,CARLOS R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
BURTLOW,TIE L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
BROWN,CHRISTOPHER MORGAN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
BRASFIELD,DONALD R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
BORDEN,DANIEL B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
BLACK,MATTHEW D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
BITTINGER,RANDAL L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
BENTLEY,DAVID G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
BATSON,ALLEN REID FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
ALLISON,JOSHUA T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
ALLEN,MICHAEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.89
WILSON,JEVON K FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.85
EDWARDS,EVELYN G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.85
DAVIDSON,MARC STUART FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $87,012.85

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: more technicians ()
Date: July 26, 2010 11:36AM

VORBAU,KATHLEEN MARIE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
TOLSON,JAMES H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
TEAL,WILLIAM E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
SWEETLAND,DAVID D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
SULLIVAN,LEO T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
STRIBLING,MANUEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
SMITH,JOHN M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
SLAYMAKER,CLARKE V FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
SINGER,STEVEN A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
SHELTON,DAVID B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
SCHWARTZ,RANDALL K FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
SCHMIDT,RODERICK J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
SANDEEN,SAMUEL L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
REMINES,BRIAN L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
PRICE,TODD D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
PRICE,DAMON O FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
POWELL,SEAN A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
POTTER,JAMES A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
POLES,SAMUEL L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
PAYNE,CARLTON L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
NEUMANN,KENNETH E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
NEILAN,DAVID A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
MITCHELL,RICHARD N FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
MCPHERSON,SHAWN K FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
MATSOS,CHRIS M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
MANUEL,JEROLD R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
MAKUCH,ANDREW FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
MACARIO,MICHAEL D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
LOCKHART,JOHN M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
LEARY,JOHN D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
LAYMON,CAROL A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
KANNARD,DAVID L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
KABLE,TODD M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
JONES,JOSEPH M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
JONES,JOHN P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
JONES,CARL E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
IMLAY,JOHN D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
HUBERT,ANDREW J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
HOFFMAN,KURT A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
HOFF,GEORGE M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
HICKS,ROBERT D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
HAYES,JAMES M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
HARMAN,CHARLES A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
GUY,JOHN C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
GIBBS,BARRETT E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
GAUNTNER,MARK B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
FURLONG,R.SCOTT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
FRANKLIN,RONALD E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
FRANKLIN,JAMES T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
FRAMES,MICHAEL L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
FEEHAN,THOMAS P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
ELLIS,PAUL R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
EDWARDS,JEFFERY E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
DUNN,MELVIN M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
DREW,CARL E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
DOWNING,ROBERT M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
DESKINS,EDWARD T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
CORNETT,KENNETH W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
CONOVER,MICHAEL W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
COLLIER,CHARLES L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
COCHRAN,JACQUES A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
CASEY,DARYL T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
BLAKEY,RANDY M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
BILLHIMER,JACK W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
BEALL,CLAYTON L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
BARNES,THOMAS R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
ARTIS,WARREN H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
ARNONE,ROBERT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,415.70
ALLEN,LEONARD C FIRE AND RESCUE ASST FIRE APPARATUS SUPERVISOR $83,415.70
YOUNG,JILL FAITH FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
WATSON,WADE H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
RODRIGUEZ,ROBERT D. FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
RIVERA FLORES,HECTOR J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
PALMER,TIMOTHY W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
MOONEYHAM,GLENN BATTLE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
LEE,CHRISTOPHE N FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
KIGHT,WILLIAM F FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
KEENAN,PATRICK J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
CROWDER,MICHAEL B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
BUTLER,DOUGLAS EDWARD FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
BENDER,DAVID GREGORY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
ALLEN,JEFFREY S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62
ADAMS,JOHN G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $83,411.62

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: can we afford this? ()
Date: July 26, 2010 11:48AM

SNAPP,MICHAEL S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.86
DIETRICHSON,DOUGLAS EDWARD FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.86
DAMICO,MICHAEL P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.86
DAILEY,PAMELA JOY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.86
WOLFIN,MARK ROBERT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
WARE,JEFFREY L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
VANCE,WILLIAM DAVID FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
SVITES,JENNIFER LYNN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
NIX,BRYAN J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
NICHOLSON,TIMOTHY L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
MONGOLD,JEFFREY L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
MARTIN,JAMES T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
LYNCH,WILLIAM S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
LIEB,ADAM P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
LAMBERMOND,MIRANDA FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
KITCHEN,ROBERT W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
JOHNSON,THOMAS N FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
HUNTER,GREGORY W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
HESSLER,DAVID ANDREW FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
GILMORE,DAVID M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
GARZA,ROBERT M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
FOSTER,RAYMOND E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
FONTANA,MICHAEL JOSEPH FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
FERNANDEZ,MARK A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
DAVID,RICHARD R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
CURRIDEN,KEITH E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
BETZ,BILL C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
BARNHART,MATHEW COFFMAN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
BARLOW,DAVID W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
BARB,TODD IVAN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
ALEXANDER,CALVIN MCBEIL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82
ALESSI,CARMEN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE LIEUTENANT $82,868.82

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: ka ching! ()
Date: July 26, 2010 11:51AM

THOMPSON,DENNIS FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.24
PANCIONE,GEORGE N FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.24
KURANDA,KIMBERLY ANN FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.24
BEACH,EUGENE W FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.24
TRICARICO,RAYMOND W FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
TABER,JAMES M FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
RICE,BENJAMIN A FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
ORTMANN,MICHAEL R FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
MEYER,STEPHEN J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,618.16
IMPERATO,EDWARD F FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
HOLLAND,TOUSSAINT M FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
GENT,ROGER K FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
GARNER,MARLON D FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
FRANKLIN,MARK D FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
CULPEPER,BRUCE C FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
CORWIN,JAY FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
CLARK,KENNETH W FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
BRITTON,ERIC S FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
BREISCH,JAMES A FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
BOYLE,HUGH S FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
BENNETT,GORDON E FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16
ALLEN,MICHAEL V FIRE AND RESCUE FIREFIGHTER $79,618.16

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: almost done ()
Date: July 26, 2010 11:53AM

WILLIAMS,DAVINE MICHELLE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
STROUP,DAVID HUGH FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
STETTER,JOHN M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
SEVENER,HAO TRAN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
NELSON,MICHAEL C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
MOORE,MICHAEL D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
MANVELL,JOHN C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
MANN,ALFRED O FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
LEE,JI Y FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
LARSON,KIMBERLY A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
KEMPTON,CHRISTOPHER H. FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
JOHNSON,MARK C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
GROFF,MATTHEW T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
GILMORE,DOVEL C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
EVANS,RONALD B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
DAY,MIKE C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
DABNEY,KEVIN R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
CAMPBELL,KEVIN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
CALLOW,VICTORIA ROSEMARY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
CABRERA,ANTHONY L G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
BRINTON,WILLIAM DAVID FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
BELL,NATALIE D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
BELL,KEVIN W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
BANKS,SMITH THOMAS FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
BABAN,MARK CORNELIO REYES FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
ATKINS,RICKIE LEE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
ALLEN-PEYTON,LILLIE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,443.73
ZIRKLE,THOMAS ALAN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
VANNOY,RICHARD C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
THOMPSON,MARK O FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
SWARTHOUT,RONALD W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
SKEELE,MICHAEL L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
SCHELLHAMMER,STEVEN C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
SACRA,KRIS A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
PHELPS,BRITT MOXLEY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
OSBORNE,PIERS C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
MORGAN,CHRISTOPHER M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
MELENDEZ,ANGEL M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
MCQUADE,MICHAEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
MCGEE,KENNY M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
MCDONELL,JOHN PATRICK FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
LOFTIES,EDWARD CHRISTOPHER FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
LILLEY,JOHN KENNEDY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
LAUN,JOSEPH M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
KOTWICKI,JAMES PAUL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
KEPPLEY,GREGORY A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
KELLY,TIMOTHY M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
JAMES,TIMOTHY D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
HODGSON,SEAN D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
HAHN,GEORGE EDWIN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
FRANKLIN,WILLIAM L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
FLYNN,JAMES ALLAN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
DOFFERMYRE,ERIC JAMES FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
CRUM,DONALD R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
CLOYD,JAEMOHN D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
CLARKE,ROBERT A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
BRISKEY,MARK G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
BRIGHT,RICHARD T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
BONIFAS,BRIAN A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
BAUSERMAN,RONALD FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65
ANDERSON,KYLE B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $79,439.65

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: not all ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:10PM

ZDUNSKI,MICHAEL R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
WYATT,ERIC MIDIAN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
WILLIAMS,ROBERT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
WILLIAMS,CHRISTOPHER H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
WHITFIELD,ANITA J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
WHITE,CRAIG MARQUIS FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
WERTH,JEFFREY J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
TOMCZAK,VERNON ROSS FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
TINCHER,JEFFREY WAYNE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
THOMPSON,GARY PATRICK FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
THOMPSON,DANIEL R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
TEDESCO,JOHN J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
SWEENEY,ROBERT JOSEPH FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
SWEENEY,CLIFF EDWARD FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
STERLING,KAREN DIANNA FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
SNAPP,RODNEY D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
SHORT,ELTON LAMAR FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
SHAPIRO,STEPHEN MICHAEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
SEABRIGHT,JEFF S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
RUSSELL,ERIC A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
ROLLE,LIVINGSTON JOSEPH FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
RODGERS,REGINALD KEITH FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
ROBERTS,JASON M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
RITCHIE,ROBERT G FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
REUTER,GARY SCOTT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
POST,LINDA JANE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
PORTER,SAMUEL L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
PILSUCKI,ROBERT J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
PFISTER,JAMES EDWARD FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
PERLA,RAUL F FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
PENNY,DERRICK LOMONTE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
PAIS,TIMOTHY JAMES FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
OCHAITA,JORGE HUMBERTO FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MYERS,BLAKE C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MURRAY,JEFFREY W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MUNGO,RICHARD A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MUDGE,JOHN ROSS FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MOORE,GEORGE H FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MOORE,BRIAN P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MCLAUGHLIN,ERIC DAVID FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MCKENDREE,JAMES B FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MAYHUGH,G BRIAN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MARSHALL,GARNER T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MAKELY,KEVIN DWAYNE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
MACINYAK,JOHN C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
LOTZ,ROBIN M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
LOAYZA,GEORGE EDUARDO FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
LAWTON,STACIE L FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
LAMONT,WILLIAM J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
KWIATKOWSKI,DANIEL J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
KOSENKO,PETER FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
KORB,JAMES P FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
KOBERSTEEN,JOEL J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
KNERR,HERBERT MONROE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
KLAREN,KIM A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
KING,MICHAEL T FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
KIDD,THOMAS A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
KERNS,DAWN CHRISTINA FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
KEHNE,PETER FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
JENKINS,BRIAN PAUL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
HWANG,IN SUNG FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
HURST,STEPHEN J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
HOFFMAN,JOHN MICHAEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
HERBERT,SCOTT E FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
HAHN,DANIEL TROY FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
HA,KYUNG S FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
GALVIN,JAMES J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
FURMAN,JAMES M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
FRYE,LINWOOD M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
FRY,JOEL MICHAEL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
FIDDLER,MARK EDWARD FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
FERGUSON,THOMAS A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
FENSTERWALD,SEAN M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
FEASTER,MICHAEL O FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
ESTRADA,RAMON M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
DOUGHTY,ALFRED M FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
DEYNEKA,MARK FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
DESOUSA,ROBERT JAMES FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
DEDES,STEFAN SPIRO FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
DEANS,MICKEY A FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
COX,JOSEPH KEVIN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
CARSON,ROOSEVELT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
CAMPODONICO,JUAN DAVID FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BUTLER,MARK R FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BUTLER,GERALD DEWITT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BROWNING,ROBERT SCOTT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BROWN,MICHAEL D FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BRISCOE,RONNIE NATHAN FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BRECHT,MATTHEW JOSEPH FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BOYER,JOHN L. FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BILLER,THOMAS EVERETT FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BEAVER,RAYMOND KESTER FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BARTHOLOMEW,ERIC J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
BARNES,CHRISTOPHER W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
AYALA,JUAN C FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
AVALOS,RONY EDGARDO FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
ASHWOOD,ADAM W FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
ANDERSON,MARK FRANCES FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
ADELEKE,ROBERT ADEMRELE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.75
SCHNUPP,BRENT MATTHEW FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.62
PETERSON,ANDRE DONNELL FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.62
LENZSCH,ROLF FRED FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.62
JAQUAYS,ALISON SUZANNE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.62
EPPS,CHARLES J FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.62
CORWIN,ANNETTE FIRE AND RESCUE FIRE TECHNICIAN $75,660.62

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:16PM

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Who is Gonads & Strife?
Outing on FFU: I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all Robert Paulson...or Eesh...or Eli...

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: future costs ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:27PM

Now it is time for us to calculate the pension costs of these highly compensated individuals.

Fairfax County (aka the taxpayers) fund the retirement for these individuals. On average, they can expect to earn about 60% of their final years' salary as a LIFETIME annuity. They have absolutely no market risk whatsoever. If the stock market produces zero or negative returns they still enjoy this lifetime income with a nice little COLA every few years.

So, what will this cost the almighty taxpayers?

Well, we have only listed salaries of SOME of the Fire/Rescue department-about 650 employees with salaries ranging between $76k and $135K. So, let's say an average of $100k per employee. They will probably retire when they are about 55-60 years old and will live, on average 20-25 years.

That should run us about $40 million per year for 25 years (without COLA adjustments)....$1,000,000,000.

With our budget in disarray and really no end in sight to this recession, can someone tell me where this money is going to come from???

And why, should the retired, self emloyed, and private sector worker pick up this tab?

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:31PM

future costs Wrote:
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>
> Fairfax County (aka the taxpayers) fund the
> retirement for these individuals. On average,
> they can expect to earn about 60% of their final
> years' salary as a LIFETIME annuity. They have
> absolutely no market risk whatsoever. If the
> stock market produces zero or negative returns
> they still enjoy this lifetime income with a nice
> little COLA every few years.

>


Are you bitter that someone has a better retirement than you?

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: surreal ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:33PM

I find it interesting how WASPy all the names are on the list. This county is becoming decidedly unWASPy. Are there any Asian or Hispanic firefighters in Fairfax County?

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Bacon ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:33PM

future costs Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Now it is time for us to calculate the pension
> costs of these highly compensated individuals.
>
> Fairfax County (aka the taxpayers) fund the
> retirement for these individuals. On average,
> they can expect to earn about 60% of their final
> years' salary as a LIFETIME annuity. They have
> absolutely no market risk whatsoever. If the
> stock market produces zero or negative returns
> they still enjoy this lifetime income with a nice
> little COLA every few years.
>
> So, what will this cost the almighty taxpayers?
>
> Well, we have only listed salaries of SOME of the
> Fire/Rescue department-about 650 employees with
> salaries ranging between $76k and $135K. So, let's
> say an average of $100k per employee. They will
> probably retire when they are about 55-60 years
> old and will live, on average 20-25 years.
>
> That should run us about $40 million per year for
> 25 years (without COLA
> adjustments)....$1,000,000,000.
>
> With our budget in disarray and really no end in
> sight to this recession, can someone tell me where
> this money is going to come from???
>
> And why, should the retired, self emloyed, and
> private sector worker pick up this tab?

All the tax $$ these new immigrants we get will fund it, right? Amiright?

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:38PM

how many fires are there? Wrote:
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> I say pay them $60k-$70k per year which is more
> than generous given their education, and if they
> save a life or do something other than just hold a
> hose out, then pay them a bonus of say $10k.

Salary is no tied to education. Salary is determined by what VALUE the individual (or group, in the case of unionized people like firefighters) brings to the job situation, and how much you can get away with paying them before quality level drops to unacceptable levels.

Most of these men live in a county with a $100k median income. That means the cost of living around here is in that range. Paying MANAGERS around the median makes perfect sense to me.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: JR ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:38PM

"With our budget in disarray and really no end in sight to this recession, can someone tell me where this money is going to come from???"

You should really look up how municipalities fund pension funds or how pension funds work, obviously you have no idea.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: get real ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:43PM

bitter hardly describes the tsunami that we will see in the next ten years.

It is hopelessly selfish and irresponsible for us to unload this DEBT on our children.

We cannont afford these lavish salaries and pensions. Our poiliticians are COWARDS for allowing this to happen.

I assure you if we don't do something soon, two things will happen:

1. People will move from this area because we will have to triple real estate taxes to pay for this OR

2. The pension system will just goes bankrupt.

This is a PONZI scheme and nothing more.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:49PM

get real Wrote:
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> bitter hardly describes the tsunami that we will
> see in the next ten years.

Your opinion is noted, evaluated, and filed in the appropriate receptacle. The escalation team will come by during the next disp...er, escalation cycle to pick it up and deliver it to the action team for final incin...er, resolution.

Good day.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: do share your knowledge ()
Date: July 26, 2010 12:52PM

JR-

I could run circles around you on how pensions work.

Fairfax County Public Schools took a "holiday" from making their pension contribution for 2010-11 because there was no money in the budget. So we just "skipped" a $45 million payment.

No worries, our Governor gave all municipalities that participate in VRS the same break-they just have to pay VRS back in 10 years with 7% interest, that's all. It is actually a great deal for VRS-getting 7%-when the 30 year treasury is paying just 4%!!

The actuarial assumptions are in the ragnge of 7-8% even though the market has performed a fraction of that the last 10 years. WOOPS!

Check out The Pew Foundation website if you want to educate yourself on the health of the state pension plans. You might want to have a drink while you are reading it.

WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS. No intelligent person would say otherwise.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: reality ()
Date: July 26, 2010 01:07PM

The reason they have to pay back at 7% interest is because that was the assumed interest for actuarial tables for all of these years. In the "hoopla" years when the pension system was making 20-30% (because the stock market was going crazy), the state skimmed off everything from the retirement system except that magic 7% (to keep our taxes down). Now that the rate of return has turned negative, they have no buffer and have to get that 7% somehow. That's what happened---politicians taking money from the public employees. WOOPS is right!

What is next is a recalculation of public retirement benefits and there is nothing the public employees can do about it really. I hope those firefighters are saving their money.

They just added 10 years (yes, 10) to the amount of time a teacher has to work to get full retirement (for teachers signing contracts this year). Yes, our kids will be paying for all of this one way or another.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: FIREEVERYONE ()
Date: July 26, 2010 01:12PM

FIRE Firefighters....let me tell you this, the fastest way for FFX to become PG County= cut pay, drive decent moderately capable county employees away and replace them with corrupt incompetent idiots....the choice is yours.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: CrazyStats ()
Date: July 26, 2010 01:20PM

Employees' Retirement System Portfolio Information

Portfolio Distribution:
(as of June 30, 2009)
•Domestic Stock: 16.5%
•International Equities: 11.1%
•Real Estate: 8.6%
•Fixed Income: 42.0%
•Alternative Investments 21.8%
•TOTAL VALUE OF INVESTMENTS: $2,037,208,073

Market Rate of Return in Last 14 Fiscal Years:
(gross of fees - as of June 30, 2009)

1.2009: -23.3%
2.2008: +1.2%
3.2007: +15.2%
4.2006: + 9.38%
5.2005: + 13.6%
6.2004: + 18.4%
7.2003: + 5.9%
8.2002: - 3.9%
9.2001: - 0.2%
10.2000: + 6.2%
11.1999: + 9.0%
12.1998: + 17.2%
13.1997: + 20.1%
14.1996: + 15.9%


Most FFX employees pension = 401(a) - Defined Benefit Plan

Active Uniformed Benefits

•Regular Service
◦Plans A and B -- 2.0% of the portion of the highest consecutive 36 months salary -- Final Average Salary (FAS) -- times creditable service. The total is then increased by 3%.
(Sick leave is credited as service and in the computation of the FAS.)
◦Plans C and D -- 2.5% of the FAS times creditable service. The total is then increased by 3%.


•Pre-62 Supplemental Benefit (Plans A and B only) - Payable only until age 62; based on Social Security benefit that would have been payable if the member had been 65 at the time of retirement. Benefit is pro-rated for those with less than 25 years of service. Begins at age 55 for Plan A. For Plan B, 1/2 of supplemental benefit payable before age 55; full benefit from age 55 to 62.

•Pre-Social Security Benefit (Plans A and B) - Benefit is calculated at 0.2% of average final compensation per year of service. This benefit starts at retirement and continues until the month following attainment of the age of eligibility for an unreduced Social Security Retirement benefit.

•Pre-Social Security Benefit (Plans C and D) - Benefit is calculated at 0.3% of average final compensation per year of service. This benefit starts at retirement and continues until the month following attainment of the age of eligibility for an unreduced Social Security Retirement benefit.
•Early Service Same as above but reduced by a percentage determined by age and service at retirement

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Fairfax Comprehensive Report ()
Date: July 26, 2010 01:28PM

Most recent one ios ending June 30th 2009.

Actuarial Valuation Date:

7/1/2008

Actuarial Value of Assets $2,752,874,000
Actuarial Accrued Liability $3,328,901,000

Unfunded $576,027,000

I guess we are kinda shorthanded-but no worries, our actuarials are assuming a return of 7.5% on the money we DON"T HAVE in the fund, so the catch-up will be fun.

But, hey, you guys, deserve your pension.

So what if you suck every last dime out of the taxpayers.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: alarmistcrap ()
Date: July 26, 2010 02:03PM

"But, hey, you guys, deserve your pension. So what if you suck every last dime out of the taxpayers."

They do, legally. They signed an employment contract with FFX county, FFX County must oblige.

Also, give them credit for running a half decent county, if not your property values wouldn't be increasing each year.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: most dangerous jobs ()
Date: July 26, 2010 02:09PM

No. 1: Fishers and related fishing workers

Fatalities per 100k: 111.8

Fatalities in 2008: 38

Most common cause of death: Transportation incidents

Average wage: $13/h

Source: BLS and PayScale (5-9 y experience)

I wonder if some of the fishermen from Louisiana would come here to Fairfax County and work for $100k??

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: July 26, 2010 02:22PM

most dangerous jobs Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I wonder if some of the fishermen from Louisiana
> would come here to Fairfax County and work for
> $100k??


They will if they have extensive firefighting experience and know how to manage other firefighters. Danger <> pay. Knowledge, experience, skill, and VALUE = pay.

That was a really dumb argument.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: dukeameye ()
Date: July 26, 2010 02:24PM

Your ending question is, "who will want these jobs?" Well if they are jobs like the media keeps telling us ,"americans wont do" then the illegal aliens will take them....

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: danger equals high pay ()
Date: July 26, 2010 02:32PM

The 15 Most Dangerous Jobs In America


No. 4: Structural iron and steel workers

Fatalities per 100k: 45.5

Fatalities in 2007: 40

Most common cause of death: Contact with objects and equipment

Average wage: $19/h

Source: BLS and PayScale (5-9 y experience)


HUH??? I thought the whole justification for high pay was that the job was dangerous???

What about the steel and iron workers?

Show them the money.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: promises, promises ()
Date: July 26, 2010 02:33PM

But, hey, you guys, deserve your pension. So what if you suck every last dime out of the taxpayers."

They do, legally. They signed an employment contract with FFX county, FFX County must oblige.

Also, give them credit for running a half decent county, if not your property values wouldn't be increasing each year.



The county is not obliged. You do not sign your retirement contract until you retire and there is no obligation on the part of the VRS until that moment. This was written by a state attorney in a union newsletter that I receive. There are NO guarantees on retirement pay. It will be what it will be. Everyone should be saving for retirement if they want to retire.

Look at Greece. Who 'ya gonna sue?

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Look at NJ ()
Date: July 26, 2010 02:51PM

NJ teacher retirements at record high; some spurred by Gov. Chris Christie agenda

By RICK MALWITZ, JARED KALTWASSER, SUE LOYER, SUZANNE RUSSELL, LEO D. ROMMEL and GENE RACZ • STAFF WRITERS • July 11, 2010

School officials are grappling with a fourth R this summer.

In addition to the traditional reading, 'riting and 'rithmetic, there is a wave of retirement, with public school teachers retiring this year at nearly double the rate of recent years.

This month, according to the state Department of Treasury's Division of Pensions and Benefits, retirement applications have been filed by 5,444 teachers.

Last July the division received 2,203 applications. In 2008 it received 2,731 in July. In 2007 it received 3,168 in July, the month which traditionally has the largest number of filings.

The number of teachers who filed with the intent of retiring this calendar year is 6,840.

If the intentions to retire maintain the traditional pattern from August through December, the final figure will likely be double the 3,671 in 2009.

“About half (retirements) you would expect,” said Steve Wollmer, director of communications for the New Jersey Education Association, the largest teachers union in the state.

“What we're also hearing is people are fed up with the political climate, and the uncertainty of what they're getting back into,” Wollmer said.

"There are grumblings about (Gov. Chris Christie) going after existing pensions,” Wollmer said.

Under the austerity plan by Christie about $1.5 billion has been cut for public education, and the feeling in the teachers' union is that more changes are in store.

“The political factors are out there,” said Frank Belluscio, director of communications for the New Jersey School Boards Association.

“For people who have had retirement in the horizon just the prospect of their retirement income being affected might have prompted them to make the move now,” Belluscio said.

Speaking at the National Governors Association in Boston on Friday, Christie delivered a message of austerity and cited his battles with public sector unions.

“The public-sector unions need to become part of the shared sacrifice and they're refusing to,” Christie said.

If there is some good news in the school retirement figures, it is the fact that retirements will allow some teachers to be retained instead of becoming victims of layoffs.

“The net effect on the public schools is we're losing 10,000 positions. With more teachers retiring fewer teachers will be laid off,” Wollmer said.

Cindy Zammit, president of the South Amboy Board of Education, said the rise in retirements helped the district lessen the number of layoffs. “It was a positive for us,” she said.

In New Brunswick, Superintendent Richard Kaplan said his district has seen about 30-35 retirements so far.

“That did help us with our budget as we begin to take a look at our class enrollments and determine whether or not we need to re-hire teachers, in particular,” Kaplan said.

Kaplan said district officials will analyze the enrollment numbers to decide how many and what kinds of teachers to rehire. He expected to complete that analysis by Tuesday.

Kaplan said he believes changes instituted by the Christie administration were responsible for some, though not all, of the retirements.

“I do some exit conferencing and when I do, I can tell you that out of that group, seven or eight of them told me that,” Kaplan said.

Kaplan said the losses included administrators, teachers, secretaries and other staff. Altogether, he said the retiring staff had about 300 years of experience working in the district.

“When you lose a large number of senior staff all at once, you lose an institutional memory of the organization, of the community, of the students,” he said. “We've had teachers who have been here 30 and 40 years and have taught the parents of their current students. We go back generations here.”

In East Brunswick, there were 56 retirements this year as opposed to 40 the year before.

“One of the things we will certainly do, as retirements come in beyond anticipated, is look at the staff that had been riffed and see how positions can be preserved,” said Bernardo Giuliani, East Brunswick school business administrator.
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In Perth Amboy, 73 employees from the school district, at all different levels, have retired.

“It's the most I've seen at one time,” Superintendent of Schools John M. Rodecker said.


Many of the retirements came from teaching staff, possibly related to rumors about pension reform, Rodecker said.

The district was looking to lay off about 30 teachers. About a third of those teachers now will be retained, according to Rodecker.

Seventy-nine positions were cut in Old Bridge, according to Superintendent of Schools Simon Bosco. About 30 positions were eliminated through attrition or were vacant and will not be filled, he said.

“Based on a couple of additional retirements, there were fewer teachers that had to be let go,” Bosco said.

Frank Alfano, the superintendent of schools in Sayreville, said the number of teachers retiring will likely be double what it was in recent years.

A total of 24 staff members have retired from the Linden school district, a figure much higher than recent past years.

“Last year we have eight or nine retirements. They went up a lot,” Linden Superintendent of Schools Rocco Tomazic said.

The district was originally looking to lay off 100 employees, but that number was reduced to 86, according to Tomazic.

“One of our goals was to keep as many people as we could. I was pleased we could do that. I still don't like (losing) 86,” Tomazic said. “It takes out the supports we had built up.”

Mike Lacey, director of human resources for South Brunswick Township schools, said the district has had a combination of layoffs and retirements.

According to Lacey, there have been about 20 retirements and about 140 layoffs among 1,300 full-time equivalent positions.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: no guarantees except death and taxes ()
Date: July 26, 2010 03:00PM

There's another way to solve these problems---it's called hyperinflation. The politicians prefer not to get their hands dirty.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: part-timers? ()
Date: July 26, 2010 03:56PM

SMYTH,LINDA QUINNE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS $75,000.02
MCKAY,JEFFREY C BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS $75,000.02

HYLAND,GERALD W BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS $75,000.02
HUDGINS,CATHERINE M BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS $75,000.02
HERRITY,PATRICK S BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS $75,000.02
GROSS,PENELOPE ANN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS $75,000.02
FREY,MICHAEL R BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS $75,000.02
FOUST,JOHN W BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS $75,000.02
COOK,JOHN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS $75,000.02

BULOVA,SHARON S BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
CHAIRMAN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS $75,000.02


Don't these guys have other jobs also???

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: double dipper ()
Date: July 26, 2010 04:06PM

JANSEN,PAUL M. COMMUNITY & RECREATION SVCS PARK/REC SPECIALIST IV $73,512.19


Paul Jansen "retired" from Farfax County Public Schools two years ago. He was the head of student activities probably clocking $120k per year.

So, he "retires"...draws his VRS pnesion, and then goes and work for the parks department.

Nice system they got going.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: JR ()
Date: July 26, 2010 04:11PM

This is a problem world wide.

High Salary baby-boomers are retiring, while Gen X,Y and Z are not making enough to support their retirement. It was fine when the boomers were in their 30's and 40's, but no we are doomed. Only solution, wait till they die off. Or Tax anyone over 65 more, because they didn't pay enough.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: McLean Comm Center ()
Date: July 26, 2010 05:30PM

RASMUSSEN,JULIE DIANE MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER EXEC DIR MCLEAN COMM CTR $115,003.20
KILEY,CLARE M MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER DEP COMMUNITY CENTER DIR $98,000.86
ROBERTS,SAM A MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST II $73,878.69
GARRETT,JENNIFER MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER THEATER TECHNICAL DIRECTOR $73,878.69
ANWAH,SABRINA GARY MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST II $72,791.89
SHEA,MARGARET M MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST II $72,106.53
SACHS,GEORGE ALBERT MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST III $68,136.85
SCHALLERN,SARAH N MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER THEATRICAL ARTS DIRECTOR $63,300.64
MCGOVERN,JOSEPH J MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER CHIEF BLDG MAINTENANCE SECT $59,609.89
BROWN,VIVIAN R MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST IV $54,856.88
BROOKES,RYAN BROCKENBOROUGH MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/RECREATION ASSISTANT $46,820.80
HERR,KATHLEEN E MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST I $46,215.52
DEVONSHYRE,NATHAN ADAM MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER ASST THEATER TECHNICAL DIR $42,370.85
FISHER,MICHAEL S. MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST I $42,128.32
HOLZ,DEANNA MELISSA MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST I $41,967.12
DAVIS,JONATHAN LY MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT II $41,441.30
KATZ,ELIZABETH G MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST IV $39,029.33
MOORE,MARGARET A MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $36,293.50
KING,JUSTIN TANNER MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT II $36,207.60
JAFF,NADIA YADULLAH MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST III $34,959.81
SCOTT,YULANDA ALLEN MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER INTERNET/INTRANET ARCHITECT II $34,560.00
CALLAHAN,NORA DUGAL MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT I $30,240.00
BARIAL,ELLEN VIRGINIA MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT V $26,893.36
FOX,ELLEN L MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $25,510.16
BOWEN,SCOTT C MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT I $22,745.05
VONEIFF,CORINNE MARY MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT I $22,080.00
BUCKLAND,SYLVIA A MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $21,319.58
SMOOT,BARBARA KING MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $20,844.93
STANKUS,SUSAN GRECO MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT I $19,722.76
MOHAMMED,HUSSAIN ALI AKBAR MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER GRAPHIC ARTIST III $19,680.00
MORRIS,CRAIG DOUGLAS MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT I $19,157.65
STABLES,JONATHAN S. MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT I $17,953.40
VERDON,EVELYN EMMA MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT I $17,429.88
SNIDER,MATTHEW S MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT I $16,766.25
MCAFEE,ANNE H MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $16,640.00
POWELL,MYRON G MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT I $13,886.88
DEGUEFU,DANIEL D MCLEAN COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT I $10,608.00


Is this really necessary?

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Reston Comm Center ()
Date: July 26, 2010 05:36PM

GORDON,LEILA RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER EXEC DIR RESTON COMM CTR $113,420.11
WARD,THOMAS LESLIE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER DEP COMMUNITY CENTER DIR $98,000.86
WOJCICKI,RENATA JOANNA RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ACCOUNTANT II $85,109.02
RASHID,HARUNOR RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER NETWORK/TELECOM ANALYST I $81,024.53
EMERY,MICHAEL RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER CHIEF BLDG MAINTENANCE SECT $74,631.65
IFERT,LINDA S RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER THEATER TECHNICAL DIRECTOR $73,878.69
DANAHER,KEVIN JAMES RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST II $73,878.69
LEARY,JOSEPH R RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST II $72,802.91
NGUYEN,THUYHANH NGOC RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST II $69,663.36
DANAHER,CHERI L RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST II $69,410.02
BOONE,EILEEN O'CONNOR RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST III $67,128.05
SINCLAIR,DAMIAN JOHN RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER THEATRICAL ARTS DIRECTOR $61,048.00
ELCESSER,PAMELA A RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER MANAGEMENT ANALYST I $56,336.18
BRUTSCHE,MARK L RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ASST THEATER TECHNICAL DIR $55,374.80
HERON,DEBORAH A RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST II $50,778.83
SIEBOR,GRAZYNA MALGORIATA RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST IV $50,563.14
ELLIOTT,COLLEEN MAGUIRE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST IV $49,999.87
JORDAN,NAKISH M. RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST II $49,364.22
ARGUINZONI,MIA L. RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST IV $48,879.17
ARGUINZONI,ROBERTO RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST II $48,145.97
BRYANT,HELEN M RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $47,927.15
PADVELSKIS,ASHLEY LAUREN RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER GRAPHIC ARTIST III $47,840.00
CONROY,ZURII TAMIKA RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST II $47,779.68
GOMEZ,ALEXANDER F RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ASST THEATER TECHNICAL DIR $47,000.10
GANNON,BRIAN S RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT V $46,445.78
VOUGHT,JENNIFER MICHELLE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/REC SPECIALIST I $46,000.03
SORENSON,SCOTT MICHAEL RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/RECREATION ASSISTANT $45,022.43
SCURTO,JOHN JOSEPH RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER SENIOR MAINTENANCE WORKER $42,851.54
MUKERJEA,SUBROTO RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST III $41,772.85
FARRELL,PATRICIA DUDLEY RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY ATTENDANT II $41,215.41
PARKER,WILLIAM D. RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST IV $37,128.00
MURRAY,MELISSA NICOLE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $35,875.22
COLE,IVAN F RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $35,427.60
NGUYEN,TRUNG RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER SENIOR MAINTENANCE WORKER $33,218.85
HILZ,COREY R. RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $33,150.00
HANNA,STEPHANIE R. RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $32,604.00
WYATT,JAMES L RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $31,200.00
MAIDA,JANICE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $31,200.00
LASHLEY,CHRISTINE MARGARET RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $31,200.00
CANTWELL,MICHAEL GERARD RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $31,200.00
CAMPOS,SANTOS NESTOR RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER MAINTENANCE WORKER $30,889.04
HURST,JENNIFER PEART RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $29,250.00
GUARDADO LEIVA,GILBERTO RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER MAINTENANCE WORKER $28,675.92
HUTSON,KERRY M RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $28,080.00
RYAN,JEANETTE OLIVIERO RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $27,300.00
GOLIAS,MARILYN JEANINE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $27,300.00
FORTUNO,CYNTHIA GELTZ RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $27,300.00
BASS,LINDSAY REBECCA RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $27,300.00
SOARES,GAZELLE L RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/RECREATION ASSISTANT $26,000.00
NAVARRO,MARIA TERESA RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $23,400.00
LAZEAR,WALTER DAVIES RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $23,400.00
KELLY,PAULINE C. RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $23,400.00
CUBAS,PILAR GUILERMINA RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $23,400.00
LAYTON,AMANDA J RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/RECREATION ASSISTANT $20,800.00
KOWALSKI,LAURA ANN SCHEURER RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $20,280.00
SCHONBERGER,JUDY DIANE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $20,082.35
SAMET,SEYMOUR RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR IV $20,082.35
GALLETS,ERIN B RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR III $19,760.00
LAYAZALI,MAHSA RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST I $19,695.00
DONNELLY,HANNAH RACHEL RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR III $19,251.75
GOLLOP-PAGANI,KIM MELODY RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/RECREATION ASSISTANT $18,720.00
DOBBINS,BARBARA J RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR I $18,720.00
MORROW,GLORIA JEAN RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $18,220.80
WELLS,OSCAR THOMAS RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/RECREATION ASSISTANT $18,200.00
SCHIRES,KATHERINE R RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/RECREATION ASSISTANT $17,680.00
MORROW,TERRENCE PATRICK RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER PARK/RECREATION ASSISTANT $17,680.00
BRADSHAW,JANET ELIZABETH RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $16,943.89
ROSA,EVELYN PATRICIA RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $16,704.90
MAYNARD,TERRY LESLIE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER REC LEADER I $16,224.00
CHRISTIE-HEALY,VICTORIA JOSEPH RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR I $16,036.80
COSHLAND,PATRICIA A RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR I $15,600.00
DORAN,EBONY L RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER REC LEADER II $15,360.00
LABORDE,JOEL FRANCISCO RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER MAINTENANCE WORKER $15,331.68
GALLAS,SUMI NONOGUCHI RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST II $15,250.00
ALHADI,MOHAMMED NURU RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER MAINTENANCE WORKER $14,406.29
KASPROWICZ,RYAN M RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER HEAD LIFE GUARD $13,650.00
JONES,CAYLIN L RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER HEAD LIFE GUARD $13,650.00
BERGER,ALEC LANDON RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER HEAD LIFE GUARD $13,650.00
RASHID,SANJIDA ZANNATH RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST I $13,130.00
MINASSIAN,GREGOIRE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST I $13,130.00
KIRK,JOYCE E. RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST I $13,130.00
CHOWDHURY,RIFAT ZAMAN RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST I $13,130.00
CHIRAYATH,ASHOK RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST I $13,130.00
ALI,MARION LOUISE ALLEN RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER ADMIN ASST I $13,130.00
SHADA,JAMES MCKIM RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER HEAD LIFE GUARD $12,880.00
ALEMAN,VICENTE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER REC LEADER II $12,604.80
SHACKFORD,VICTORIA C RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER INSTRUCTOR III $12,464.00
GALLICHIO,EDWARD JOSEPH RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER REC LEADER II $12,000.00
BURROW,SAAN RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER REC LEADER II $11,664.00
GALLAS,ZACHARY KIYO RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER LIFEGUARD II $11,592.00
LEBRON,WILFREDO RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER REC LEADER II $11,520.00
GONZALEZ,SANTOS A RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER REC LEADER II $11,520.00
HANELINE,MARYBETH PRETORIUS RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER DAY CARE CENTER ASST TEACHER $10,513.95
RAMOS,LAUREN MICHELLE RESTON COMMUNITY CENTER LIFEGUARD II $10,140.00

DITTO for Reston.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: IMHO ()
Date: July 26, 2010 05:41PM

double dipper Wrote:
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> JANSEN,PAUL M. COMMUNITY &
> RECREATION SVCS PARK/REC SPECIALIST IV
> $73,512.19
>
>
> Paul Jansen "retired" from Farfax County Public
> Schools two years ago. He was the head of student
> activities probably clocking $120k per year.
>
> So, he "retires"...draws his VRS pnesion, and then
> goes and work for the parks department.
>
> Nice system they got going.


If you already have a decent retirement and still want to work...VOLUNTEER or start your own business, leave that job for people coming up in their careers. The feds do the same thing. It makes me so angry.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Zero ()
Date: July 26, 2010 07:22PM

Here's another one that retired, left to become fire chief in Henrico, VA, returned to run the fire department here and now is in DROP.

MASTIN,RONALD L CHIEF FIRE AND RESCUE DEPT $175,566.56

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: ludicrous ()
Date: July 26, 2010 07:30PM

How can some people be making 17 times as much as others?

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: I AGREE ()
Date: July 26, 2010 08:47PM

IMHO Wrote:
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> double dipper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > JANSEN,PAUL M. COMMUNITY &
> > RECREATION SVCS PARK/REC SPECIALIST IV
>
> > $73,512.19
> >
> >
> > Paul Jansen "retired" from Farfax County Public
> > Schools two years ago. He was the head of
> student
> > activities probably clocking $120k per year.
> >
> > So, he "retires"...draws his VRS pnesion, and
> then
> > goes and work for the parks department.
> >
> > Nice system they got going.
>
>
> If you already have a decent retirement and still
> want to work...VOLUNTEER or start your own
> business, leave that job for people coming up in
> their careers. The feds do the same thing. It
> makes me so angry.

If people actually did that I wonder how much it would help the unemployment figure. Gotta be a couple of percentage points.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: July 26, 2010 09:32PM

ludicrous Wrote:
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> How can some people be making 17 times as much as
> others?

They bring 17 times as much value and/or 17 times as scarce to find people who can do their job effectively.

Running an entire rec center, with a budget likely in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, is orders of magnitude more difficult than being a lifeguard. For the most part, any fit person can be trained to be a lifeguard; that's why so many are teens. But not anyone can run an entire rec center with a staff of dozens.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Oh No ()
Date: July 27, 2010 12:22AM

Oh no here we go with salaries again and the problem is that you all don't know the whole story. Wait until you see the overtime that the firefighters are making, There some in the firefighter rank making over 150K and many lieutenants, captains and battalion chiefs making close to 200k if not more with overtime. Then we have not included the benefits along with some great priviledges like phones, computers and many cars they take home using county gas everyday. There are some really big scams happening in the fire and rescue dept they just need to be uncovered.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Clobbersaurus ()
Date: July 27, 2010 07:24AM

I find it amusing that we're hating on the fire guys instead of the popo or the teachers.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: Teh King ()
Date: July 27, 2010 09:00AM

cold Wrote:
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> Okay, so start hiring PhDs to fight fires. They
> probably want those jobs.

Actually, I know a PhD psychologist that works as a Fairfax County firefighter. He makes more money as a firefighter than he would working for DHS. He admits that when the work is hard, it is hard, but otherwise it is an easy job that allows him to run his private practive on the side.

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Re: Fairfax County Public Employee Salaries
Posted by: POPO Top Dogs ()
Date: July 27, 2010 09:26AM

ROHRER,DAVID M POLICE CHIEF POLICE $176,366.32
SELLERS,STEPHEN L POLICE DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE $164,341.84
PETERS,CHARLES K POLICE DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE $164,341.84
MORRIS,JAMES A POLICE DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE $156,516.05
RYAN,THOMAS POLICE POLICE MAJOR $149,381.02
MOSER,JOSIAH L POLICE POLICE MAJOR $149,381.02
HURLOCK,ARTHUR J POLICE POLICE MAJOR $149,381.02
BARRETT,SHAWN M POLICE POLICE MAJOR $149,381.02
SMITH,SHARON REILLY POLICE POLICE MAJOR $142,268.05
ROESSLER,EDWIN C POLICE POLICE MAJOR $142,268.05
MCALISTER,CYNTHIA ANN POLICE POLICE MAJOR $129,039.66
KLINE,MICHAEL A POLICE POLICE MAJOR $129,039.66
DEBOARD,MAGGIE A POLICE POLICE MAJOR $129,039.66
ROSEN,CHRISTOPHER W POLICE INFO TECH PROGRAM MANAGER II $122,279.46
SOO-THO,KOK MUN POLICE POLICE PSYCHOLOGIST $120,758.98
WILSON,DENNIS F POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
THORNTON,PAUL L POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
PORTEE,DORIAN B POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
PARRA,ISABELLA SOPHIA POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
NOVAK,RONALD P POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
MINNICH,PAMELA KAY POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
MCGOWAN,GRAHAM H POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
LANTZ,RON L POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
HOPSON,DENISE LYNN POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
HILL,JOSEPH R POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
FERGUSON,BRUCE K POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
DITTMER,MICHAEL D POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
DAWSON,PURVIS L POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
CULIN,SUSAN HICKS POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
CALL,JAMES D POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
BURNETT,DEBORAH L POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
BENNETT,SHAWN P POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $118,330.99
THOMPSON,STEPHEN J POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $112,696.06
SCHAIBLE,ERIN FLAHERTY POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $112,696.06
PIPER,JOHN R POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $112,696.06
OCARROLL,EDWARD C POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $112,696.06
MOYER,DAVID ROBERT POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $112,696.06
JANICKEY,DANIEL P POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $112,696.06
ARNN,ROGER E POLICE POLICE CAPTAIN $112,696.06
ELLIOTT,YOUKO H POLICE MANAGEMENT ANALYST IV $111,113.81
TRACE,JOHN S POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
TOWNSEND,DANIEL J POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
THOMPSON,PAUL POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
RUSSELL,DAVID A POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
ROGERS,THOMAS J POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
POWELL,JEFFREY E POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
PEREZ,RICHARD J POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
NAYLOR,JOHN P POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
MCALISTER,MICHAEL A POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
JOYCE,WILLIAM R POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
JACOBY,WILLIAM J POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
HICKS,PAUL D POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
GAMBLE,LLOYD B POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
CRANK,DAVID A POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
BENNETT,TOR J POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28
BAINE,KENNETH R POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT $108,037.28

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