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Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 10, 2020 11:48AM

Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why does VA and the other 46 states not allow vote by mail?
VA would save a ton of money.


Never been any proven cases, or even serious allegations, of substantial voter fraud in universal vote by mail states, mainly because the system renders it almost impossible.


The republican party remains staunchly opposed to universal vite by mail, just as Republicans are opposed to all voting reforms that make voting easier or increase turnout.
They admit they would never win another fair election.


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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: you are ()
Date: April 10, 2020 11:55AM

Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why does
> VA and the other 46 states not allow vote by mail?
>
> VA would save a ton of money.
>
>
> Never been any proven cases, or even serious
> allegations, of substantial voter fraud in
> universal vote by mail states, mainly because the
> system renders it almost impossible.
>
>
> The republican party remains staunchly opposed to
> universal vite by mail, just as Republicans are
> opposed to all voting reforms that make voting
> easier or increase turnout.
> They admit they would never win another fair
> election.
>
>
> .


 
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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Inquisitive One. ()
Date: April 10, 2020 11:56AM

Lis Power @twiiter

Trump openly admitting if we made voting easier in America, Republicans wouldn't win elections

Trump: "The things they had in there were crazy. They had levels of voting, that if you ever agreed to it you'd never have a Republican elected in this country again."

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: George A ()
Date: April 10, 2020 02:05PM

You libtards are just hunting for another way to steal elections. Vote by mail is absolutely the EASIEST way to commit voter fraud, and the GOP knows this.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Build that wall ()
Date: April 10, 2020 02:16PM

No way Juan and his fellow illegal leeches wouldn't drop a few votes for the corrupt democrats. We need to finish the wall now to keep the illegal leech out of the country. Nip it in the bud. If they can't get here they can do no more harm,that's why corrupt democrats hate the wall because it works! Oh and never ever vote democrat ever, if you love our country!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: The Ballot Box At The Polls ()
Date: April 10, 2020 02:47PM

Is how the US people vote since the beginning of this nation despite Civil and world Wars and Spanish flus as well as terrorists

Don't act so weak whining to be able to pack the mail with cheats that cheat lawful voters out of their vote Democrats this is not Chicago in 1960 and bring that govt issued photo ID to make sure who you are , no excuses in todays day and age there are only a handful of hermits living in Nevada , stop lying !

If there was no voting fraud Democrats would not win an election , everyone knows that if the Dems are behind by 3 % their cheats will put them ahead by 3 %

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: SCOTUS Will Shut Down Mail Votes ()
Date: April 10, 2020 02:49PM

As filled with cheats from Dems watch. They will just say something else, they all 9 know even if 4 lie !

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: k ()
Date: April 10, 2020 02:50PM


Gerrymanderer2 (G2, the OP original poster or spammer just above, perhaps both) posts several lies on ffu daily - many think he's a fx co gov worker who is getting paid to do it for false DNC democrat "advertising". He floods ffu with useless posts to bump down major news, demoralize americans. G2 posts fecal matter, mutilated bodies, child porn, foreign drug ads and sneaker ads, tells people to kill themselves and government should seize them and put them on psych pills in prison without a trial - decided by DNC democrats gov workers, promotes kangaroo courthouse trials, gives anti-religious rants, gives satanic ritual rants, posts black males with large dicks on white young females, portends white low birth rate and fall of USA whites, suggestive of food tampering/poisoning to solve the white problem, and anything possible to demoralize any americans on ffu - all of which are fake news he never responds to proofs it is fake. (perhaps g2 is a chinese prisoner or isis member - but definitely knowledgeable of fx co gov from the inside at times). The website operator has told him "not to post or return" (in an existing post by the sysop): not because of a political leaning but for continual illegal and gross spam along with messages that are only to demoralize if not kill others. G2 plays at financial terrorism as well; continually reporting fake and false financial data. G2 fakes emergency pleas to deaden the real response to any real one - like a devil. G2 continually spams FFU - which all users complain of: it is a real DoS attack - the attacks are not just topic bumps but designed to inject key words to kill ffu and google search results. G2 continually promotes drug use, alcoholic experimentation, and tries to convince members to meet hookers using photos from the 1990's (i doubt any that did are not arrested or dead). G2 continually posts racist posts and gay posts egging others to comment - then attacks who does - AND RECORDS IT (likely for political extortion). G2 and dems MONITOR AND RECORD* "conservatives who blast out these democrat lies and illegal abuse of telephone privilege (sometimes in a raw manner, being so jaded by the job)" (users who object to G2's actions listed so far). One ffu member discovered a south american country recording FFU databasing all posts in a non-chat database format - and when questioned - another member quickly said it was all coincidence and that this was done everywhere in the world on all sites: WHICH IS A LIE. Not all countries record the every word of what fairfaxians say on blogs. Extortion is also mentioned by G2. And the idea he's fishing for comments he can use against anyone who'd run for office is "just assume he's in that business" - and i've warned others that is what he fishes for - excuses to attack conservatives and or to extort them.

SOME POSTERS ON FFU FEEL G2 IS A JOKER: I ASSURE YOU THE ABOVE COMPLAINTS ARE GENUINELY A THREAT TO ONLOOKERS (THE UN-INTIATED), NON-DEMOCRATS, AND TO ANYONE STATING THAT LAWS SHOULD BE IMPOSED ON DEMOCRATS EQUALLY AS DEMOCRATS IMPOSE THEM ON OTHERS: MONEY

LEGAL NOTICE: DEMOCRATS HAVE `SWATTED' THE HOMES OF SOME FFU POSTS WHO REFUTE G2 AND CALL DEMS OUT ON THEFT AND LIES - AND EXPOSE THE LAWS THEY COULD BE PROSECUTED FOR BREACH OF TRUST. THAT'S A CONFIRMED WITNESSED FACT. IT IS NO JOKE WHAT G2 IS DOING. HIS CONTINUAL FISHING IS NOT IDLE - THEY ARE TRIGGERED AND ARMED. which i've warned others about since, about 2010 - that G2 is fishing for men to "erase" politically, by any means available to him


GO BACK TO HELL G2. YOU ARE EXPOSED.


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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Why does the GOP Hate America? ()
Date: April 10, 2020 03:34PM

Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why does
> VA and the other 46 states not allow vote by mail?
>
> VA would save a ton of money.
>
>
> Never been any proven cases, or even serious
> allegations, of substantial voter fraud in
> universal vote by mail states, mainly because the
> system renders it almost impossible.
>
>
> The republican party remains staunchly opposed to
> universal vite by mail, just as Republicans are
> opposed to all voting reforms that make voting
> easier or increase turnout.
> They admit they would never win another fair
> election.
>
>

We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:


Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Political Science ()
Date: April 10, 2020 03:39PM

Both political parties have access to data that can predict with near 100 percent certainty who you will vote for if you vote, but only 60 percent certainty who will actually vote.

Vote by mail allows the parties to target voters they need right up to the mail-in deadline.

But here's the twist, as studied in southern California.

If your ballot is received by mail (or if you vote in person) you become much likelier to vote next time. That's valuable information to the parties.

So what they do is gather as many mail-in votes from supporters as they can. This can be done at mass non-political events including church and school activities. Then they hold on to them, actually mailing (or delivering) only enough to ensure their candidate wins.

Almost no one checks to see whether their mail-in vote was counted.

Those ballots with questionable eligibility are discarded unless absolutely needed.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Universal vote-by-mail! ()
Date: April 10, 2020 03:52PM

Why does the GOP Hate America? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why does
> > VA and the other 46 states not allow vote by mail?
> >
> > VA would save a ton of money.
> >
> >
> > Never been any proven cases, or even serious
> > allegations, of substantial voter fraud in
> > universal vote by mail states, mainly because the
> > system renders it almost impossible.
> >
> >
> > The republican party remains staunchly opposed to
> > universal vite by mail, just as Republicans are
> > opposed to all voting reforms that make voting
> > easier or increase turnout.
> > They admit they would never win another fair
> > election.
> >
> >
>
> We all know that the only real election fraud is
> committed by republicans:
>
>
> Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud
> scheme — but they won anyway
> https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-c
> harged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-
> anyway/
>
> North Carolina Republican operative charged in
> election fraud scheme
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-no
> rth-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-c
> harged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS
>
> GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud
> — Committed by Republicans
> https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-f
> raud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html
>
> Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party
> Affiliations, Officials Say
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-
> voter-registration-fraud.html

Actually, five states currently conduct all elections entirely by mail: Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah.
You can drop your ballot off in the mailbox, in dedicated drop boxes, or at polling places, depending on the state.
And all votes count!

Universal vote-by-mail is not absentee voting.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: trunp Lost the C0VID War in JAN! ()
Date: April 11, 2020 08:05AM

^^^ republicans have turned voting reform into a partisan issue, because they know they cannot win without cheating!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Democrats Absolute Need ()
Date: April 11, 2020 10:12AM

>Those ballots with questionable eligibility are discarded unless absolutely needed.

"Absolute Need" occurs in tight elections , then bumps on the ballot are counted by Dem judges as votes for Joe

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Vlxwj ()
Date: April 11, 2020 10:45AM

Universal vote-by-mail! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Why does the GOP Hate America? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why
> does
> > > VA and the other 46 states not allow vote by
> mail?
> > >
> > > VA would save a ton of money.
> > >
> > >
> > > Never been any proven cases, or even serious
> > > allegations, of substantial voter fraud in
> > > universal vote by mail states, mainly because
> the
> > > system renders it almost impossible.
> > >
> > >
> > > The republican party remains staunchly opposed
> to
> > > universal vite by mail, just as Republicans
> are
> > > opposed to all voting reforms that make
> voting
> > > easier or increase turnout.
> > > They admit they would never win another fair
> > > election.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > We all know that the only real election fraud
> is
> > committed by republicans:
> >
> >
> > Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud
> > scheme — but they won anyway
> >
> https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-c
>
> >
> harged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-
>
> > anyway/
> >
> > North Carolina Republican operative charged in
> > election fraud scheme
> >
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-no
>
> >
> rth-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-c
>
> > harged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS
> >
> > GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election
> Fraud
> > — Committed by Republicans
> >
> https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-f
>
> > raud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html
> >
> > Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party
> > Affiliations, Officials Say
> >
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-
>
> > voter-registration-fraud.html
>
> Actually, five states currently conduct all
> elections entirely by mail: Colorado, Hawaii,
> Oregon, Washington and Utah.
> You can drop your ballot off in the mailbox, in
> dedicated drop boxes, or at polling places,
> depending on the state.
> And all votes count!
>
> Universal vote-by-mail is not absentee voting.


You’re willing to leave the integrity of the election in the hands of our postal workers? Is that wise?

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: urcrked ()
Date: April 11, 2020 10:53AM

There is so much voter fraud going on now... so many dead people vote.. illegals .. no way someone from anywhere in the world should just be able to walk across the border.. get free shit thanks to our working and paying taxes and then vote for people just because they promise to keep giving them free shit.. that is buying votes... if you just had to mail in a ballot.. (it is ridiculous you don't have to show and I.D.) fraud would be off the charts... Dem Fraud is why they would win.. and once they had enough they would pass laws that would ensure them doing whatever the hell they wanted... hello socialism.. then communism .. to all you educated people.. you better pick up a history book... you call every one a nazi but i think you probably no very little about how the real Nazi's operated.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Vote early, vote often ()
Date: April 12, 2020 07:11AM

The data from the U.S. Election Assistance Commission and the Election Administration and Voting Surveys for 2016 and 2018, provided by the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF), shows that between the 2016 and 2018 elections, roughly 16.4 million ballots mailed to registered voters went missing.

In the 2018 election, about 42.4 million ballots were mailed to registered voters. Of those mailed, more than one million were undeliverable, more than 430,000 were rejected, and nearly 10.5 million went missing.

The 2016 election showed similar discrepancies. That year, about 41.6 million ballots were mailed to registered voters. Of those mailed, more than 568,000 were undeliverable, nearly 320,000 were rejected, and close to six million went missing.

Mail in ballots substantially increases the risk of crime and VOTER FRAUD!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Why does the GOP Hate America? ()
Date: April 12, 2020 10:47AM

Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why does
> VA and the other 46 states not allow vote by mail?
>
> VA would save a ton of money.
>
>
> Never been any proven cases, or even serious
> allegations, of substantial voter fraud in
> universal vote by mail states, mainly because the
> system renders it almost impossible.
>
>
> The republican party remains staunchly opposed to
> universal vite by mail, just as Republicans are
> opposed to all voting reforms that make voting
> easier or increase turnout.
> They admit they would never win another fair election.
>
>

This just makes so much sense ...

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Voting By Mail Is A Way To Cheat ()
Date: April 12, 2020 11:50AM

Cheating by Democrats is well known look at the 1960 Kennedy Nixon presidential race where Chicago put Kennedy ahead with its dead

Get off your lazy ass and vote at the ballot box , the polling station

Packing the supreme court with extra judges 16 year old vote no id votes now mailed in votes All SCHEMES For Democrats To Cheat denying those who cast lawful votes to count

As Democrats hypocritically SCREAM ! " LET EVERY VOTE COUNT "

Just as they SCREAM "NO ONES ABOVE THE LAW EXCEPT ILLEGALS And Hillary Clinton "

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 12, 2020 11:58AM

^^^ Proof? Yeah, common comment from the stupid.

Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.

Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"

Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: F Your Mailed In Votes ()
Date: April 12, 2020 12:01PM

Head to the polls have your Id checked STFU Cheater

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Dumfuq libtard ()
Date: April 12, 2020 12:19PM

There's already absentee ballots you stupid God damn American hating libtard.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Whay Change Whats Worked ()
Date: April 12, 2020 12:22PM

For 244 years now, to allow Democrats to cheat even more then they already do ?

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: The Simply Fact ()
Date: April 12, 2020 12:30PM

That Democrats schemed up mail in voting and want it

Is proof positive of The Will Of Democrats To Cheat In Elections"

Not the will of the peoples lawful vote to be counted

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 12, 2020 12:34PM

^^^ U mad, bruh.

Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why does VA and the other 45 states not allow vote by mail?


Again absentee voting is not universal by mail.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 12, 2020 01:21PM

Vote early, vote often Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The data from the U.S. Election Assistance
> Commission and the Election Administration and
> Voting Surveys for 2016 and 2018, provided by the
> Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF), shows
> that between the 2016 and 2018 elections, roughly
> 16.4 million ballots mailed to registered voters
> went missing.
>
> In the 2018 election, about 42.4 million ballots
> were mailed to registered voters. Of those mailed,
> more than one million were undeliverable, more
> than 430,000 were rejected, and nearly 10.5
> million went missing.
>
> The 2016 election showed similar discrepancies.
> That year, about 41.6 million ballots were mailed
> to registered voters. Of those mailed, more than
> 568,000 were undeliverable, nearly 320,000 were
> rejected, and close to six million went missing.
>
> Mail in ballots substantially increases the risk
> of crime and VOTER FRAUD!


This checks out.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 12, 2020 01:27PM

Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.

Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"

Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:


Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: it's sure easy to stop all your ()
Date: April 12, 2020 01:28PM

Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by
> mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact,
> it makes cheating incredibly difficult.
>
> Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of
> state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting
> system, explains why:
> "
> Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky
> than most polling place elections, precisely
> because they distribute ballots (and electoral
> risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any
> reasonable chance of success, an organized effort
> to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards
> must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of
> separate acts, all of them individual felonies,
> that must both occur and go undetected to have any
> chance of success.
>
> Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling
> place elections that increasingly rely on
> direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems
> and proprietary software systems that both record
> and tally votes. A single successful software hack
> potentially could affect thousands of votes.
> It’s the difference between “retail” fraud
> and “wholesale” fraud.
> "
>
> Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but
> impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and
> receive a stub with a code that allows them to
> track their ballot as it proceeds through the
> system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It
> is a trackable paper system — just what election
> security experts recommend. (As long as it is done
> well, of course; design matters.)
>
>
> We all know that the only real election fraud is
> committed by republicans:
>
>
> Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud
> scheme — but they won anyway
> https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-c
> harged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-
> anyway/
>
> North Carolina Republican operative charged in
> election fraud scheme
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-no
> rth-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-c
> harged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS
>
> GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud
> — Committed by Republicans
> https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-f
> raud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html
>
> Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party
> Affiliations, Officials Say
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-
> voter-registration-fraud.html
>
> .


fake news

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 12, 2020 01:35PM

Yeah, typical russian troll bot post... no proof.
Only russian troll bots use the term "fake news".


Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.

Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"

Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:


Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: your news, it is ()
Date: April 12, 2020 01:38PM

Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Yeah, typical russian troll bot post... no proof.
> Only russian troll bots use the term "fake news".
>
>
> Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by
> mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact,
> it makes cheating incredibly difficult.
>
> Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of
> state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting
> system, explains why:
> "
> Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky
> than most polling place elections, precisely
> because they distribute ballots (and electoral
> risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any
> reasonable chance of success, an organized effort
> to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards
> must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of
> separate acts, all of them individual felonies,
> that must both occur and go undetected to have any
> chance of success.
>
> Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling
> place elections that increasingly rely on
> direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems
> and proprietary software systems that both record
> and tally votes. A single successful software hack
> potentially could affect thousands of votes.
> It’s the difference between “retail” fraud
> and “wholesale” fraud.
> "
>
> Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but
> impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and
> receive a stub with a code that allows them to
> track their ballot as it proceeds through the
> system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It
> is a trackable paper system — just what election
> security experts recommend. (As long as it is done
> well, of course; design matters.)
>
>
> We all know that the only real election fraud is
> committed by republicans:
>
>
> Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud
> scheme — but they won anyway
> https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-c
> harged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-
> anyway/
>
> North Carolina Republican operative charged in
> election fraud scheme
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-no
> rth-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-c
> harged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS
>
> GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud
> — Committed by Republicans
> https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-f
> raud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html
>
> Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party
> Affiliations, Officials Say
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-
> voter-registration-fraud.html


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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 12, 2020 02:57PM

Yeah, still waiting on the proof, Otherwise you just pullin stuff from your ass


Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.

Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"

Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Well Because ()
Date: April 12, 2020 03:08PM

>Why does VA and the other 45 states not allow vote by mail?

The founders knew Democrats in the future would cheat, that's the only reason your here trying to change what has been the American way since 1791

The only thing that's broken about our current elections system is Democrats' cheatings on the id procedures and other frauds , now you want to increase the cheats

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: If There Was NO Election Fraud ()
Date: April 12, 2020 03:09PM

I would say sure

But there is plenty of it when Democrats run for office

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: listen to Jimmy ()
Date: April 12, 2020 03:13PM

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by Jimmy Carter.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: absentee fraud ()
Date: April 12, 2020 03:19PM

A former small-town mayor described by prosecutors as the Boss Hogg of Appalachia for his role in an election fraud and corruption scandal has agreed to plead guilty to 243 felonies.

Ben Cooper recently signed a plea agreement and is scheduled to appear in a Wise County courtroom Nov. 28, attorneys in the case confirmed Thursday.

During a two-week trial for a co-defendant last month, Cooper was portrayed as the key figure in a plot to gain control of the town of Appalachia, first by rigging an election and later by creating a rogue police department.


As special prosecutor Greg Stewart flashed a mug shot of Cooper on a screen for the jury to see, he commented that the ex-mayor even looked like Boss Hogg, the unethical county commissioner in the television series "The Dukes of Hazzard."

Cooper's attorney said the actions of some of the other 13 defendants in the poorly concealed scheme -- which included buying votes with beer, cigarettes and even pork rinds -- brought to mind a different television comedy.

"My view is, if you wanted to characterize the participants, it really was more like Curly, Larry and Moe," Patti Church said Thursday.

Prosecutors have said that Cooper's desire to control the town of Appalachia and his dislike for its town manager in 2004 led him to wage two campaigns, a political one of change at town hall and a criminal one of fraud and forgery.

Cooper recruited others to join his scheme, often by capitalizing on their gripes with the government of the town of 1,800 in the far southwest corner of Virginia.

Although the vote-buying allegations were perhaps the most colorful, prosecutors focused on what they considered the more serious crimes of intercepting absentee ballots from the mail and forging the names of the intended voters on the documents. A jury convicted former letter carrier Don Houston Estridge for his role in the case last month.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: doesn't sound so safe ()
Date: April 12, 2020 03:21PM

Officials in the small town of Cudahy took part in a widespread corruption scheme that included accepting cash bribes, abusing drugs at City Hall, and throwing out absentee ballots that favored election challengers. After a lengthy FBI Investigation of the 2007 and 2009 elections, the former head of code enforcement, Angel Perales, admitted to tampering with mail-in ballots in city elections by opening them and then resealing and submitting votes for incumbent candidates while discarding votes for challengers. He and Mayor David Silva pleaded guilty to bribery and extortion charges, although Perales' plea agreement included his admission of election fraud. Silva was sentenced to one year in federal prison. Perales was sentenced to five years' probation.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Why Would Democrats Support This ()
Date: April 12, 2020 10:21PM

Because they cheat in elections

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Libshits can't win a fair fight ()
Date: April 12, 2020 10:27PM

That's why they always cheat.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Ted Kennedy Would Say Yes ()
Date: April 12, 2020 10:38PM

To mail in voting .YES YES YES a Thousand Times YES . He was the number # 1 Democrat in the nation for a while and helped his brother John win the presidency in 1960 in Chicago where cheats gave JFK the win over Richard Nixon

Lets talk about his stellar academic achievements at Harvard can we...he was ahead of his time . Speaking of the esteemed Time Magazine a libtard rag ...

" In 1951, as a freshman at Harvard who was more interested in football than his studies, Kennedy arranged for a friend to take his spring Spanish exam. He was caught cheating and was subsequently expelled from the school for two years"

http://content.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1919041,00.html

In 1969 Teddy a huge gun grabber who gave lessons to Cuomo killed more people with his car them millions of law aboding citizens across America did with all of their guns . But millions of Democrats still voted for him ??? Why ??? Some sort of mental disconnect with common sense it seems that OP is afflicted with

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Cuomo Learned His Lessons ()
Date: April 12, 2020 10:50PM

He sees the constitution as having a page ripped out, where the 2nd amendment was at.

Prepared for the oncoming virus when it first hit the NY medical screens ??? No he was screaming with fellow Democrats to impeach Trump ! Locking down NYC ..asking Trump to stop all incoming international flights into NYC as soon as it hit ?? Not on your life he was on the bus with the race card throwing Democrats over Trumps travel ban from China at the end of January 2020.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: trunp Lost the COVID War in JAN! ()
Date: April 13, 2020 07:45AM

^^^ Still trying to deflect. SAD!


Yeah, still waiting on the proof, Otherwise you just pullin stuff from your ass


Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.

Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"

Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Libtards lost the war in 2016 ()
Date: April 13, 2020 07:47AM

Democrat very angry :-)


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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: trunp Lost the COVID War in JAN! ()
Date: April 13, 2020 09:06AM

Everyone has moved on from 2016, except russian troll bots. Such a sad deflection.

Like the dude that peaked in high school, trying to relive past glory- so very sad & pathetic.

Still trying to deflect. SAD!


Yeah, still waiting on the proof, Otherwise you just pulling stit from your ass


Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.

Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"

Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: fake news ()
Date: April 13, 2020 09:40AM

Oh, well we're going to read it this time. 500th time is a charm....


 
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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 13, 2020 12:46PM

^^^ Not a single good argument against UVBM. Seems you lost ...
Hahaha!


Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.

Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"

Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: LOLOLOL ()
Date: April 13, 2020 01:03PM


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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: spock knows ()
Date: April 13, 2020 01:51PM

Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ^^^ Not a single good argument against UVBM.
> Seems you lost ...
> Hahaha!
>
>
> Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by
> mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact,
> it makes cheating incredibly difficult.
>
> Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of
> state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting
> system, explains why:
> "
> Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky
> than most polling place elections, precisely
> because they distribute ballots (and electoral
> risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any
> reasonable chance of success, an organized effort
> to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards
> must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of
> separate acts, all of them individual felonies,
> that must both occur and go undetected to have any
> chance of success.
>
> Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling
> place elections that increasingly rely on
> direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems
> and proprietary software systems that both record
> and tally votes. A single successful software hack
> potentially could affect thousands of votes.
> It’s the difference between “retail” fraud
> and “wholesale” fraud.
> "
>
> Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but
> impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and
> receive a stub with a code that allows them to
> track their ballot as it proceeds through the
> system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It
> is a trackable paper system — just what election
> security experts recommend. (As long as it is done
> well, of course; design matters.)
>
>
> We all know that the only real election fraud is
> committed by republicans:
>
> Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud
> scheme — but they won anyway
> https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-c
> harged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-
> anyway/
>
> North Carolina Republican operative charged in
> election fraud scheme
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-no
> rth-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-c
> harged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS
>
> GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud
> — Committed by Republicans
> https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-f
> raud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html
>
> Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party
> Affiliations, Officials Say
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-
> voter-registration-fraud.html


 
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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: You Lost OP ()
Date: April 13, 2020 01:55PM

You keep beating your cheating dead horse for illegal votes , we vote on election day at the polls in the US now STFU No more Democrat cheat schemes allowed bring your gov issued photo Id like you do when you collect welfare checks

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 13, 2020 02:41PM

^^^ Yeah, still not a single good argument against UVBM. Seems you lost again ... certain you are used it.
Hahaha!


Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.

Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"

Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: obvious as shit to us normies ()
Date: April 13, 2020 03:16PM

 
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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Listen to Jimmy ()
Date: April 13, 2020 06:54PM

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by Jimmy Carter.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 13, 2020 07:01PM

^^^ You are a special kind of stupid. Still not a single good argument against UVBM.


Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.

Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"

Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html


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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: runp Lost the COVID War in JAN! ()
Date: April 13, 2020 09:29PM

frunp Lost the COVID War in JAN!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2's test results ()
Date: April 13, 2020 09:39PM

Confirmed.....Lib cocksucker syndrome

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 14, 2020 05:54AM

^^^ U mad, bru? Still not a single good argument against UVBM.


Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.


Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"


Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: trunp Lost the COVID War in JAN ()
Date: April 14, 2020 08:12AM

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Bye Bye Gerry ()
Date: April 14, 2020 10:55AM

Gerry lost another argument. So he repeats himself.

Sad.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: 9tjwj ()
Date: April 14, 2020 11:34AM

"an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts"

Simply UNTRUE. If this was the case, credit card fraud would be unheard of.

It does not involve hundreds of separate acts.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: one argument ()
Date: April 14, 2020 11:42AM

Laura Seeds, of Espanola, NM, conspired with Dyon Herrera to falsify several absentee ballots in favor of Seeds' husband, a city councilman who was running for mayor in 2016. Seeds was charged with two counts of making false statements relative to the municipal election code, one count of conspiracy to violate the municipal election code, and ten counts of possession of another person's absentee ballot. Seeds was found guilty of two counts of making false statements relative to the municipal election code and two counts of possession of another person's absentee ballot, which are all fourth degree felonies.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: two arguments ()
Date: April 14, 2020 11:49AM

Richard Douglas Dohmen, of James City County, committed voter fraud when he attempted to cast ballots for both himself and his dead wife in a 2018 state election. Dohmen was charged with forging public records and making false statements on required forms, and pleaded guilty to making false statements on required forms. He was sentenced to 1 year in the penitentiary, 3 years of unsupervised probation, and was ordered to pay a $458 fine.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: three arguments ()
Date: April 14, 2020 11:50AM

Marjory Gale, of Hood River, OR, voted twice in the 2016 election, once for herself and once for her daughter. Both votes were cast by absentee ballot. Gale pleaded guilty to a violation, and was ordered to pay a $750 fine.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: four arguments ()
Date: April 14, 2020 11:52AM

Bret Warren, of Casselberry, FL, entered a plea of nolo-contendere to two third-degree felony voter fraud charges. Warren's fraud was uncovered when five residents of Altamonte Springs noted they had not received their absentee ballots for the 2016 presidential election. The ballots had nonetheless been returned, and were filled out and signed. Investigators matched fingerprints on the envelope to Warren through a federal database, and DNA obtained from the envelope also matched Warren. Warren was charged with two counts of felony false swearing in connection with voting or elections, and after pleading nolo-contendere was sentenced to 154 days' imprisonment with credit for time served, and ordered to pay $468 in fees and court costs.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: five aruments ()
Date: April 14, 2020 11:54AM

Troy Stevenson was convicted of making a false statement on an absentee ballot as well as second degree forgery, both class D felonies. He committed this crime on October 28, 2017, in connection with the November 2017 mayoral election in Stafford, CT. Stevenson was given a three year suspended sentence.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: six arguments ()
Date: April 14, 2020 11:56AM

Following an investigation by the Texas Attorney General's office, Margarita Rangel Ozuna was charged with engaging in election fraud, along with five others during the 2012 Democratic Primary runoff election. Ozuna pleaded guilty to charges of fraudulent use of absentee ballots and was sentenced to serve 15 days in Cameron County jail and required to pay a $250 fine. This was the second time that Ozuna was convicted of voter fraud. In 2013, she was convicted of felony voter fraud stemming from the 2010 election.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: seven arguments ()
Date: April 14, 2020 11:57AM

Michelle Marie Landsteiner forged the signature and voted for a family member during the 2016 Minnesota primary. However, the family member had already registered to vote elsewhere, and her ballot was flagged. Upon review, the voter's signature and the witness's signature looked extremely similar. Landsteiner pled guilty to unlawful voting and was sentenced to one year of probation and nearly $600 in fees. A 90-day jail sentence will be waived after completing her probation.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Cloud! ()
Date: April 14, 2020 01:13PM

^^^ Links or it did not happen. Links to real new sources, none of the bart-fart shit.


Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.


Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"


Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Voting By Mail ()
Date: April 14, 2020 01:20PM

Increases fraud that can occur from all political parties , America votes at the ballot box with a gov issued photo ID to show you can legally vote and not cancel out another lawfully cast vote with an illegally cast vote

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: libs hate facts ()
Date: April 14, 2020 01:58PM

one argument Wrote:
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> Laura Seeds, of Espanola, NM, conspired with Dyon
> Herrera to falsify several absentee ballots in
> favor of Seeds' husband, a city councilman who was
> running for mayor in 2016. Seeds was charged with
> two counts of making false statements relative to
> the municipal election code, one count of
> conspiracy to violate the municipal election code,
> and ten counts of possession of another person's
> absentee ballot. Seeds was found guilty of two
> counts of making false statements relative to the
> municipal election code and two counts of
> possession of another person's absentee ballot,
> which are all fourth degree felonies.


https://www.abqjournal.com/1399464/laura-seeds-put-on-six-months-of-house-arrest.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: choke on it ()
Date: April 14, 2020 02:02PM

two arguments Wrote:
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> Richard Douglas Dohmen, of James City County,
> committed voter fraud when he attempted to cast
> ballots for both himself and his dead wife in a
> 2018 state election. Dohmen was charged with
> forging public records and making false statements
> on required forms, and pleaded guilty to making
> false statements on required forms. He was
> sentenced to 1 year in the penitentiary, 3 years
> of unsupervised probation, and was ordered to pay
> a $458 fine.

https://www.vagazette.com/news/va-vg-richard-dohmen-indicted-0409-story.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: how’s the crow taste? ()
Date: April 14, 2020 02:05PM

three arguments Wrote:
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> Marjory Gale, of Hood River, OR, voted twice in
> the 2016 election, once for herself and once for
> her daughter. Both votes were cast by absentee
> ballot. Gale pleaded guilty to a violation, and
> was ordered to pay a $750 fine.


https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/04/10-oregon-voters-plea-guilty-to-voter-fraud-in-2016-presidential-election.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: seeing a pattern? ()
Date: April 14, 2020 02:08PM

four arguments Wrote:
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> Bret Warren, of Casselberry, FL, entered a plea of
> nolo-contendere to two third-degree felony voter
> fraud charges. Warren's fraud was uncovered when
> five residents of Altamonte Springs noted they had
> not received their absentee ballots for the 2016
> presidential election. The ballots had nonetheless
> been returned, and were filled out and signed.
> Investigators matched fingerprints on the envelope
> to Warren through a federal database, and DNA
> obtained from the envelope also matched Warren.
> Warren was charged with two counts of felony false
> swearing in connection with voting or elections,
> and after pleading nolo-contendere was sentenced
> to 154 days' imprisonment with credit for time
> served, and ordered to pay $468 in fees and court
> costs.


https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-seminole-county-voter-fraud-saliva-20180503-story.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: the hits keep coming ()
Date: April 14, 2020 02:10PM

five aruments Wrote:
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> Troy Stevenson was convicted of making a false
> statement on an absentee ballot as well as second
> degree forgery, both class D felonies. He
> committed this crime on October 28, 2017, in
> connection with the November 2017 mayoral election
> in Stafford, CT. Stevenson was given a three year
> suspended sentence.


https://apnews.com/0e76eeab065245c69417edbf0059e160

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: ouch, that’s gotta hurt ()
Date: April 14, 2020 02:16PM

six arguments Wrote:
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> Following an investigation by the Texas Attorney
> General's office, Margarita Rangel Ozuna was
> charged with engaging in election fraud, along
> with five others during the 2012 Democratic
> Primary runoff election. Ozuna pleaded guilty to
> charges of fraudulent use of absentee ballots and
> was sentenced to serve 15 days in Cameron County
> jail and required to pay a $250 fine. This was the
> second time that Ozuna was convicted of voter
> fraud. In 2013, she was convicted of felony voter
> fraud stemming from the 2010 election.

http://valleycentral.com/news/local/identities-released-of-six-accused-in-voter-fraud-case

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: 100% verified ()
Date: April 14, 2020 02:20PM

seven arguments Wrote:
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> Michelle Marie Landsteiner forged the signature
> and voted for a family member during the 2016
> Minnesota primary. However, the family member had
> already registered to vote elsewhere, and her
> ballot was flagged. Upon review, the voter's
> signature and the witness's signature looked
> extremely similar. Landsteiner pled guilty to
> unlawful voting and was sentenced to one year of
> probation and nearly $600 in fees. A 90-day jail
> sentence will be waived after completing her
> probation.

https://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/local_news/woman-charged-with-voter-fraud/article_2f0f1ce4-b18b-11e6-92ef-03efdf9d43be.html

That’s seven for seven.

Too bad they didn’t teach you how to use Google on your Russian troll farm. Stay the fuck out of our elections!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Troll ran away ()
Date: April 17, 2020 10:27AM

100% verified Wrote:
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> seven arguments Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Michelle Marie Landsteiner forged the signature
> > and voted for a family member during the 2016
> > Minnesota primary. However, the family member
> had
> > already registered to vote elsewhere, and her
> > ballot was flagged. Upon review, the voter's
> > signature and the witness's signature looked
> > extremely similar. Landsteiner pled guilty to
> > unlawful voting and was sentenced to one year
> of
> > probation and nearly $600 in fees. A 90-day
> jail
> > sentence will be waived after completing her
> > probation.
>
> https://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/local_news/w
> oman-charged-with-voter-fraud/article_2f0f1ce4-b18
> b-11e6-92ef-03efdf9d43be.html
>
> That’s seven for seven.
>
> Too bad they didn’t teach you how to use Google
> on your Russian troll farm. Stay the fuck out of
> our elections!


Looks like the Russian troll is hiding.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Virtural Doctor Visits ()
Date: April 17, 2020 03:56PM

Hypocritical Democrats say no to photo ID to vote at the ballot box on Election Day to allow cheats that disqualify a legal vote , now they want to increase cheats by allowing mailed in votes.

But to do a " Virtural office visit" to renew a RX that is a common medicine not a restricted substance, they want you to visit the County Health Dept and use a "smart phone" that costs 800 dollars and a hundred dollars a month or use a computer with a camera built in so the govt can spy on you to confirm your identity , if you don't have one or the other your SOL unless you go to your DR with sick people coughing in the lobbby

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Tough Sentence ()
Date: April 18, 2020 12:05PM

An entire year of probation.

She has to sit out the voter fraud events for one election.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 21, 2020 01:13PM

^^^ Typical alt-right BS.

Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.


Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"


Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: mail and voter fraud ()
Date: April 21, 2020 01:19PM

one argument Wrote:
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> Laura Seeds, of Espanola, NM, conspired with Dyon
> Herrera to falsify several absentee ballots in
> favor of Seeds' husband, a city councilman who was
> running for mayor in 2016. Seeds was charged with
> two counts of making false statements relative to
> the municipal election code, one count of
> conspiracy to violate the municipal election code,
> and ten counts of possession of another person's
> absentee ballot. Seeds was found guilty of two
> counts of making false statements relative to the
> municipal election code and two counts of
> possession of another person's absentee ballot,
> which are all fourth degree felonies.


https://www.abqjournal.com/1399464/laura-seeds-put-on-six-months-of-house-arrest.html



two arguments Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Douglas Dohmen, of James City County,
> committed voter fraud when he attempted to cast
> ballots for both himself and his dead wife in a
> 2018 state election. Dohmen was charged with
> forging public records and making false statements
> on required forms, and pleaded guilty to making
> false statements on required forms. He was
> sentenced to 1 year in the penitentiary, 3 years
> of unsupervised probation, and was ordered to pay
> a $458 fine.

https://www.vagazette.com/news/va-vg-richard-dohmen-indicted-0409-story.html



three arguments Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Marjory Gale, of Hood River, OR, voted twice in
> the 2016 election, once for herself and once for
> her daughter. Both votes were cast by absentee
> ballot. Gale pleaded guilty to a violation, and
> was ordered to pay a $750 fine.


https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/04/10-oregon-voters-plea-guilty-to-voter-fraud-in-2016-presidential-election.html



four arguments Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bret Warren, of Casselberry, FL, entered a plea of
> nolo-contendere to two third-degree felony voter
> fraud charges. Warren's fraud was uncovered when
> five residents of Altamonte Springs noted they had
> not received their absentee ballots for the 2016
> presidential election. The ballots had nonetheless
> been returned, and were filled out and signed.
> Investigators matched fingerprints on the envelope
> to Warren through a federal database, and DNA
> obtained from the envelope also matched Warren.
> Warren was charged with two counts of felony false
> swearing in connection with voting or elections,
> and after pleading nolo-contendere was sentenced
> to 154 days' imprisonment with credit for time
> served, and ordered to pay $468 in fees and court
> costs.


https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-seminole-county-voter-fraud-saliva-20180503-story.html



five aruments Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Troy Stevenson was convicted of making a false
> statement on an absentee ballot as well as second
> degree forgery, both class D felonies. He
> committed this crime on October 28, 2017, in
> connection with the November 2017 mayoral election
> in Stafford, CT. Stevenson was given a three year
> suspended sentence.


https://apnews.com/0e76eeab065245c69417edbf0059e160



six arguments Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Following an investigation by the Texas Attorney
> General's office, Margarita Rangel Ozuna was
> charged with engaging in election fraud, along
> with five others during the 2012 Democratic
> Primary runoff election. Ozuna pleaded guilty to
> charges of fraudulent use of absentee ballots and
> was sentenced to serve 15 days in Cameron County
> jail and required to pay a $250 fine. This was the
> second time that Ozuna was convicted of voter
> fraud. In 2013, she was convicted of felony voter
> fraud stemming from the 2010 election.

http://valleycentral.com/news/local/identities-released-of-six-accused-in-voter-fraud-case



seven arguments Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Michelle Marie Landsteiner forged the signature
> and voted for a family member during the 2016
> Minnesota primary. However, the family member had
> already registered to vote elsewhere, and her
> ballot was flagged. Upon review, the voter's
> signature and the witness's signature looked
> extremely similar. Landsteiner pled guilty to
> unlawful voting and was sentenced to one year of
> probation and nearly $600 in fees. A 90-day jail
> sentence will be waived after completing her
> probation.

https://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/local_news/woman-charged-with-voter-fraud/article_2f0f1ce4-b18b-11e6-92ef-03efdf9d43be.html

That’s seven for seven.

Too bad they didn’t teach you how to use Google on your Russian troll farm. Stay the fuck out of our elections!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 21, 2020 01:54PM

^^^ Yeah, no link to universal vote by mail.
Checkmate ... I win!
Hahaha!!


Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.


Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"


Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: why so scared? ()
Date: April 21, 2020 02:28PM

Moving the goalposts?

What are you afraid of?

What kind of voting do they have in Oregon?

three arguments Wrote:
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> Marjory Gale, of Hood River, OR, voted twice in
> the 2016 election, once for herself and once for
> her daughter. Both votes were cast by absentee
> ballot. Gale pleaded guilty to a violation, and
> was ordered to pay a $750 fine.


https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/04/10-oregon-voters-plea-guilty-to-voter-fraud-in-2016-presidential-election.html

Ask your Russian troll bosses to give you new talkers.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 21, 2020 02:32PM

^^^ Sorry Ivan, universal vote by mail is not absentee voting. Dumbass!
Checkmate ... I win, again!! Hahaha!!!

We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html



Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.


Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
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Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
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Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Inquisitive One. ()
Date: April 21, 2020 02:37PM

Why is it okay for trunk to vote by mail?

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: trunk lost the Covid War in JAN ()
Date: April 22, 2020 06:31AM

^^^ This all checks Out!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Trunk Lost the Covid War In JAN! ()
Date: April 24, 2020 05:52AM

We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans:

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html



Trunpz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.


Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"


Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 29, 2020 07:01PM

^^^ This All Checks Out!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: April 30, 2020 07:44PM

Real Americans demand Universal Vote By Mail!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: FruSD ()
Date: April 30, 2020 08:03PM

So simple answer to your question: fraud.

The presidency is not the governorship of OR.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: syjdk ()
Date: April 30, 2020 11:23PM

Voter fraud is very real.

Funny no Liberals have mentioned that there’s more fucking people registered to vote in Fairfax than number of residents. It happens here. How do you think Governor Coonman got elected? He’s ruining Virginia in record time.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: May 01, 2020 02:53PM

U mad, bruh?

Not a single good argument against Universal Vote By Mail

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: May 09, 2020 07:48AM

No reason to not vote by mail- FACT!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
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Date: May 10, 2020 12:32PM


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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: May 14, 2020 06:41AM

Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why does VA and the other 46 states not allow vote by mail?

Never been any proven cases, or even serious allegations, of substantial voter fraud in universal vote by mail states, mainly because the system renders it almost impossible.

The republican party remains staunchly opposed to universal vite by mail, just as Republicans are opposed to all voting reforms that make voting easier or increase turnout.
They admit they would never win another fair election.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: voter_Connolly ()
Date: May 14, 2020 09:22AM

Voting by mail hmmm no way it could be fraudulent, right? Four adults lived in my home prior to my purchase. I, to this day get much of their mail. I imagine I would get all of their mail-in ballots as well. Lucky me, I know have 5 votes.

That's why you must vote in person.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: May 14, 2020 02:14PM

^^^ Yeah, that is not how universal vote by mail works. Try another lie.

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: SCOTUS Says NO NO NO NO NO ()
Date: May 14, 2020 10:02PM

NO Democrat cheating on elections with mail in voting , you will vote the way America has voted through wars flues virus and depressions , at the polls on election day

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: May 15, 2020 06:46AM

Trunkz & the alt-right keep saying that voting by mail makes cheating easy. That is false. In fact, it makes cheating incredibly difficult.


Phil Keisling, the former Oregon secretary of state who introduced that state’s mail-in voting system, explains why:
"
Mail-based voting systems today are far less risky than most polling place elections, precisely because they distribute ballots (and electoral risk) in such a decentralized way. To have any reasonable chance of success, an organized effort to defraud a mail-based system and its safeguards must involve hundreds (if not thousands) of separate acts, all of them individual felonies, that must both occur and go undetected to have any chance of success.

Contrast that to the risks inherent in polling place elections that increasingly rely on direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting systems and proprietary software systems that both record and tally votes. A single successful software hack potentially could affect thousands of votes. It’s the difference between “retail” fraud and “wholesale” fraud.
"

Vote-by-mail makes wholesale fraud all but impossible. Voters hand mark paper ballots and receive a stub with a code that allows them to track their ballot as it proceeds through the system and ensure that it is properly tallied. It is a trackable paper system — just what election security experts recommend. (As long as it is done well, of course; design matters.)


We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans (this is just a FACT!):


Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html



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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Unconstitutional ()
Date: May 16, 2020 02:44PM

So is proxy voting in Congress, go away Op you asshole with your unconstitutional schemes to cheat for votes to steal elections

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: May 17, 2020 11:38AM

^^^ We all know that the only real election fraud is committed by republicans (this is just a FACT!):


Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme — but they won anyway
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/06/two-republicans-charged-in-ohio-election-fraud-scheme-but-they-won-anyway/

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-republican-operative-charged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS

GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

Florida Woman Changed Voters’ Party Affiliations, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/Cheryl-hall-voter-registration-fraud.html

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: This all checks out! ()
Date: May 18, 2020 06:38AM

This all checks out!

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Re: Voting by mail is fair, safe, and easy. Why not Fairfax VA?
Posted by: Gerry's Ripped Asshole ()
Date: May 18, 2020 07:36AM

Trunp owns me 24/7 365

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