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"Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: mmmmahhhdiiii ()
Date: March 26, 2020 05:55PM

https://www.disabledveterans.org/2020/03/11/flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-risk/

A recent military study shows military personnel evaluated who received the flu vaccine were at 36 percent increased risk for coronavirus with varied benefit in preventing some strains of the flu.


“Examining noninfluenza viruses specifically, the odds of both coronavirus and human metapneumovirus in vaccinated individuals were significantly higher when compared to unvaccinated individuals (OR = 1.36 and 1.51, respectively) (Table 5).”

The flu vaccine studied demonstrated varied benefit in flu prevention – – some strains showed significant benefit while others did not.

Titled, Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season, the report on the study addresses the phenomena of vaccine virus interference of the influenza vaccine.


Flu Vaccine Interference

Paraphrasing, the study highlights the value of the human body’s ability to fight against viruses. Apparently, by contracting influenza, the body naturally “may reduce the risk of non-influenza respiratory viruses…”

Due to the flu vaccine’s “interference” with the naturally occurring biological process, there may be an increased risk of contracting non-influenza viruses:


“While influenza vaccination offers protection against influenza, natural influenza infection may reduce the risk of non-influenza respiratory viruses by providing temporary, non-specific immunity against these viruses. On the other hand, recently published studies have described the phenomenon of vaccine-associated virus interference; that is, vaccinated individuals may be at increased risk for other respiratory viruses because they do not receive the non-specific immunity associated with natural infection.”
Why This Topic?

I started digging into this topic on the Department of Veterans Affairs’ (VA) advice two weeks ago when I noticed the agency’s top advice about coronavirus was to “get a flu shot”.

This advice seemed a bit too simplistic when given to a population of largely elderly veterans with significant disabilities, vaccine histories, and exposures to various pathogens worldwide.


After writing about it, one reader sent an email citing this study in PubMed.

I was later provided a copy of the full study and reviewed it with an expert to verify my own conclusions based on the information in that report.

Informed Consent For Flu Vaccine

Now, the feedback I received that really caught my attention was mainly in a question: Is the heightened risk of coronavirus and other pathogens worth the benefit of the influenza vaccine based on this study as broken down in Table 5 above?

The column to focus on is “OR” in Table 5.

Coronavirus is 1.36 meaning 36% higher risk.

The influenza virus overall is 0.57 meaning the risk of contracting the flu was reduced overall. Three variants of flu did not receive a statistically significant reduction in risk.

Three of 8 evaluations noted a statistically insignificant benefit for the flu shot. Meanwhile, shot takers were at increased risk for coronavirus of 36%. I would bet $1 that this year, many Americans would likely rethink taking the vaccine with that bit of information.

If VA has this information, and they likely do, should the agency be required to share this increased risk factor with individuals considering the shot?

Studied Military Population

The study, published in the scientific journal Vaccine January 2020, was conducted by the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Branch Air Force Satellite at Wright-Patterson AFB, OH.

Taken at face value, the study indicates people who receive the flu vaccine are at increased risk for coronavirus pre-COVID-19. Like veterans, current service members, school teachers, and medical professionals, the study population consisted of a population with a history of being heavily vaccinated.

“The DoD provides a unique population for vaccination studies as mandatory vaccination against influenza is required by the DoD for all Active Duty and Reserve Component personnel. This study aims to examine the relationship between specific respiratory viruses and influenza vaccination. The protocol for this study was reviewed and approved as exempt by the Air Force Research Laboratory Institutional Review Board.”
Future § 1151 Claims For Malpractice?

Will veterans who contract the coronavirus after receipt of the flu vaccine based on VA’s top recommendation be eligible for § 1151 claims for malpractice?

How will the US Court of Claims – Vaccine Court handle an influx of US citizens injured by contracting the coronavirus due to the significant risk in the study?

Given that this report was published by DOD researchers in a scientific journal, why is VA telling veterans to get the influenza vaccine?

What is the motive behind their advice?

Veterans, and many disabled veterans, may be at higher risk of contracting coronavirus based on vaccine history alone. That is especially true for veterans who took the flu vaccine at the encouragement of VA doctors.

Who stands to gain with the current recommendation?

There are winners and losers with each of these decisions. The virus itself appears to more severely impact the elderly, of which the veteran population has many.

How about Vietnam veterans exposed to toxic herbicides?

This virus is basically a death sentence for our poorly treated disabled Vietnam veterans who rely on VA to provide safe and effective medical care for their diabetes, cancer, hypertension, etc.

Ask Your Doctor

I encourage all readers to do your own research. Ask your VA medical doctor about this study and whether they agree with the blanket recommendation of the agency to get a flu shot to get ahead of coronavirus.

Is this solid medical advice?

For those interested, the study’s data came from the Department of Defense Global Respiratory Pathogen Surveillance Program (DoDGRS) is a DoD-wide program established by the Global Emerging Infections Surveillance and Response System (GEIS).

The individuals included in the study provided respiratory specimens to the DoDGRS for 2017-2018 influenza season. Individuals who were sick prior to receipt of the flu vaccine were excluded from the study:

“All people submitting a respiratory specimen to the DoDGRS for the 2017–2018 influenza season were eligible for the study. The influenza season began 1 October 2017 and ended 29 September 2018. Those who submitted a sample and only tested positive for Chlamydia pneumoniae and/or Mycoplasma pneumoniae were excluded because these illnesses are bacteriological in nature, not viral. People with influenza and non-influenza coinfections were excluded because they could not be uniquely classified as either influenza or non-influenza respiratory virus. Individuals with multiple specimens collected during the season were also removed from the study as they could have had multiple different viruses over the season. Specimens where neither vaccination status could be obtained via databases nor a questionnaire was completed were excluded because vaccination status could not be confirmed. Subjects who were ill before receiving vaccination were excluded as vaccination status would therefore be unrelated to illness. Lastly, those people for whom the laboratory rejected the specimen were not included in the final study population.”
Be Optimistic But Careful

From what I can tell, the odds of being exposed in the US are high. The death rate if you get sick is high enough to warrant concern.

Wouldn’t it be nice to get good advice from the socialized healthcare system managed by the VA that is supposed to provide us with care?

For some non-US centric news about the virus, I wanted to include a YouTube video of 60 Minutes Australia about their perspective on the disease.

Now, this video pushes the narrative that the disease originated from the wet markets in Wuhan that also happened to be located near the level 4 biological laboratory studying the virus. I do not believe we know enough to confirm whether the origin is from such markets or manmade.

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: mmmahhhdiii-jo-momma ()
Date: March 26, 2020 10:37PM

The Armed Forces Health Surveillance Branch Air Force Satellite at Wright-Patterson AFB, OH identified a suspicious vapor cloud over the White House.

Chemical analysis confirmed the vapor cloud to be comprised of the novel Corona virus. The AFHS asserted that no action was taken nor was there any viable action available to be taken. The AFHS concluded that this was a case of "one flu over the cuckoo's nest."

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: Urgent Warning ()
Date: March 26, 2020 10:39PM

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: Just take precautions ()
Date: March 26, 2020 10:54PM

OP, the opinion writer of your piece cited is attempting to draw a conclusion regarding COVID-19 based upon a study done three years ago. We simply do not have the data yet to see if the risk of Covid-19 infection or the mortality rate for those infected for any particular age group is higher, lower, or the same for those with a recent flu vaccination or a history of getting flu vaccinations.

It isn't likely to be a significant variable compared to the established ones of preexisting health conditions and advanced age. But who knows.

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: mmmmahhhdiiiii ()
Date: March 26, 2020 11:17PM

"paraphrasing, the study highlights the value of the human body’s ability to fight against viruses. Apparently, by contracting influenza, the body naturally “may reduce the risk of non-influenza respiratory viruses…”

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: Mike Pance ()
Date: March 27, 2020 07:57AM

mmmahhhdiii-jo-momma Wrote:
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> The AFHS concluded that this was a case of "one flu over
> the cuckoo's nest."



Tell me, are you attempting to take a swipe at President Trump?

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: mmmmahhhdiii ()
Date: March 27, 2020 08:48AM

anyone who thinks hillary was a better option than Big Trumpamundo is on HARD DRUGS

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: I'm k. I think I'm gay. ()
Date: March 29, 2020 10:59PM

I gave 3 blow jobs today.

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: Flu coo kachoo ()
Date: April 01, 2020 08:15AM

What a bunch of bullshit

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: Borg ()
Date: April 01, 2020 08:30AM

It's on the internet, so it's true.


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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: Cuomos soon Klintons ()
Date: April 01, 2020 08:39AM

High probability Hillary has corona.

Bill gets it, his frail ass will meet grim reaper too

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: mmmmahhhdiiii ()
Date: April 01, 2020 09:46AM

dude....check this SHIT out....google ""Obama, Google, Bidens, Clinton, Schmidt, Sued in Fed Court, Weaponized AI Bio-Tech Transfer, Endangering the Lives of All People, Complicity to Slave Camps, China"

February 26th 2020

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.casd.660353/gov.uscourts.casd.660353.3.0.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3buyyin62XX9L2G17s7lWQmXlV3e-I7Zu6QfKXU-ZvE0ybGLQH2CzGGZI

thank goodness the blue pedocrat baby killers are not in the white house with their boy Mr. Population Control Bill Gates who recently proposed "vaccination certificates" in order to travel

before eye go....last years flu season had approximately 30 something thousand deaths....this year "corona virus" has killed a little under 4 thousand

fuck all these hollywood shills promoting this shutdown of business

sinister

check out the OG Dr. RObert Morse if you want a better understanding of this virus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz0Fa0rY3_o&t=1931s

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: mahhhhdiiii ()
Date: April 01, 2020 09:51AM

thats 30 something thousand deaths in the US of A btw versus a little under 4,000 as of yesterday

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: twinkies4life ()
Date: April 02, 2020 02:34PM

Consider this, when a mother has had measles, mumps, etc she passes some immunity to her child. There is no immunity passed through vaccines. So many all these vaccines are actually making our little dipshit offspring more weak.

Germany studies have also shown high fevers reduce cancer in the body. Getting really sick with a high fever may be beneficial to humans over the course of their lives. Cancer is up and everyone take a fever reducer whenever they are sick, this is probably hurting you in the long run more than you could know.

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: mmmmahhhdiii ()
Date: April 03, 2020 08:48AM

twinkies4life Wrote:
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> Consider this, when a mother has had measles,
> mumps, etc she passes some immunity to her child.
> There is no immunity passed through vaccines. So
> many all these vaccines are actually making our
> little dipshit offspring more weak.
>
> Germany studies have also shown high fevers reduce
> cancer in the body. Getting really sick with a
> high fever may be beneficial to humans over the
> course of their lives. Cancer is up and everyone
> take a fever reducer whenever they are sick, this
> is probably hurting you in the long run more than
> you could know.


you's a fucking genius

anyone who vaccinates they children has lost all knowledge of self

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: I'm k. I think I'm gay. ()
Date: April 05, 2020 11:22AM

I gave 4 blow jobs today

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: GM ()
Date: December 01, 2020 10:04AM

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: cucumber ()
Date: December 01, 2020 11:33PM

Right. Natural immunity is superior to a vaccine. That's why many of us do not get the flu vaccine and won't be getting the Coronavirus vaccine.

If we had compromised immune systems we would get the shots.

Why is this soooo freaking hard for the experts to understand????

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: furthermore ()
Date: December 01, 2020 11:37PM

Now we need to have a buh-zillion dollar study to see whether or not you should put your sock on before you put your shoe on.

Followed by a study to see if flushing the toilet before you pee prevents pee from getting into the toilet.

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Posted by: the general mahhhdiiiiiiiiiiii ()
Date: December 02, 2020 10:15AM

"Right. Natural immunity is superior to a vaccine. That's why many of us do not get the flu vaccine and won't be getting the Coronavirus vaccine.

If we had compromised immune systems we would get the shots.

Why is this soooo freaking hard for the experts to understand????"

thats the key word....UNDERSTANDING or CEE-ING

eye sometimes ponder why are some people blessed with understand and sum aren't......even certain folks who have all the knowledge and wisdom in the world aren't blessed with understanding or the ability to cee whut the naked eye cannot detect

"Now we need to have a buh-zillion dollar study to see whether or not you should put your sock on before you put your shoe on.

Followed by a study to see if flushing the toilet before you pee prevents pee from getting into the toilet."

yes, it ceems rather obvious doesn't it?

but the devil never sleeps

he gonna stand on his square and so will we!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJWY3R7Rhw4

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Posted by: B4P ()
Date: December 03, 2020 10:24PM

"Right. Natural immunity is superior to a vaccine. That's why many of us do not get the flu vaccine and won't be getting the Coronavirus vaccine.

If we had compromised immune systems we would get the shots.

Why is this soooo freaking hard for the experts to understand????"

thats the key word....UNDERSTANDING or CEE-ING

eye sometimes ponder why are some people blessed with understand and sum aren't......even certain folks who have all the knowledge and wisdom in the world aren't blessed with understanding or the ability to cee whut the naked eye cannot detect"

Oh, general,
Facts are actual things. Fact: There is a difference between immunity and not getting a viral load that stops you from functioning or feeling sick. They are not the same.
Fact: Immunity does not prevent you from being a carrier.
Fact: Vaccines are used to ensure that others do not get sick, as well.
Fact: Vaccines are used to reduce the R number on outbreaks so a virus can burn itself out.
Fact: If you have folks who have both, all knowledge and all wisdom in the world AND cannot understand and cannot see what the naked eye cannot detect; therefore what is to be understood and seen by what is unseen by the naked eye MUST not be from this world.
And since you are from this world - you cannot understand or see those things either.

Is this the same logic you use to come to the conclusion that the earth is flat and chemtrails exist? If so, perhaps you might reconsider them as positions of fanatsy, not logic.

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Posted by: V6L9E ()
Date: December 05, 2020 08:35AM

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Posted by: WLUCK ()
Date: December 05, 2020 09:45PM

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Date: December 06, 2020 02:35PM

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Posted by: YDW7J ()
Date: December 06, 2020 06:14PM

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Re: "Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Risk 36% Says Military Study"
Date: January 14, 2021 11:01AM

vaccines are very bad........one of the major factors in this corona bullshit doing as much damage as it did

if you can learn how to take care of yourself and then have the discipline to actually take care of yourself this corona bullshit is harmless

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