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Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Dagnabit ()
Date: April 02, 2010 12:55AM

Anyone seen any repeated sightings of coyotes in these parts? Saw the recent news story about the police having to track a mess of them in New York City(pace).(wolfen) I figure with the parkland around the Great Fals area there should be sightings on a regular basis. I see fox' on a regular basis these days. And understand that the grey fox will come out during the day and not necessarily because of rabies. Who wins a fight between a coyote and a fox?
I understand you can see weasals all over Tysons Corner.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 02, 2010 01:01AM

Dagnabit Wrote:
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> Who wins a fight between a coyote and a fox?


Never seen one, only seen fights between a coyote and a roadrunner. The roadrunner always won.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Elle Diabla ()
Date: April 02, 2010 01:08AM

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: April 02, 2010 01:22AM

Dagnabit Wrote:
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> Who wins a fight
> between a coyote and a fox?


a coyote would fuck up a fox just due to its size, coyotes are more scavengers than hunters but im am sure they could hold their own if need be. plus they normally roam in packs whilst the foxes are more solitary. so blam coyotes win foxes failzors.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: ProVallone ()
Date: April 02, 2010 09:13AM

There was a litter of Coyote puppies and the Mom that I would see hanging around the ramp to 66 west off of Chainbridge road. Occasionally I see one of the now grown pups wandering around the Oakton area near AT&T.He looks well fed and healthy. Apparently , these things can survive in urban and residential areas as well as the woods.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: April 02, 2010 10:25AM

There is a coyote den in the Franklin Oaks area. I've seen them.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: April 02, 2010 10:28AM

They adapt well to almost any surroundings. Really though until you hear about pets disappearing there's probably not a large population in the area.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: saw two ()
Date: April 02, 2010 10:31AM

I've seen one in the woods near that park behind Ranger Road and I've seen one near the NEW townhouses across from Oakton High School (probably they live at Nottoway Park). They are much bigger than foxes, they look more like scraggly German Shepherds.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: CritterGitter ()
Date: April 02, 2010 12:53PM

A friend of mine took a picture of one in his back yard in Centreville last
year. He tried to get outside with a bow but it took off before he could
draw back. Too bad.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Duchess ()
Date: April 02, 2010 01:40PM

I have seen them inside and outside the beltway. I guess that Hot Lane construction does not slow them down. I thought I was looking at a really ugly dog, then I see it run.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Izzy ()
Date: April 03, 2010 09:07AM

Should one be concerned if one is taking a leisurely walk in the woods i.e. Bull Run Regional Park? do packs of coyotes go after deer?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Spacy ()
Date: April 03, 2010 11:18PM

I saw six or seven fawns wandering around at the end of Electric Avenue near Tysons Corner last week. I wonder if we're going to have the kind of deer infestation problems that Maryland has been having.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Elle Diabla ()
Date: April 03, 2010 11:24PM


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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Saw One ()
Date: April 04, 2010 02:04AM

I have seen coyotes in my back-yard (the Franklin Glen Neighborhood).

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: just me ()
Date: April 04, 2010 06:15AM

I have seen them in the Centreville area in Virginia Run about a year ago. But I have not seen any since then.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: chulupa ()
Date: April 05, 2010 11:09PM


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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: re coyotes ()
Date: April 05, 2010 11:39PM

last summer I worked at a horse barn in Clifton...saw (and heard) coyotes just on the perimeter of the paddocks where the horses graze, and on the edge of the woods. Haven't seen them since, but folks who walk their dogs in our Centreville neighborhood say they have seen them in Cub Run Park along the trail that starts off Rt 29 and runs through to Virginia Run. My neighbor was walking her dog one day around 11:30 am in Sully and saw one in the wooded area of the cul de sac.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 06, 2010 08:48AM

I've seen a lone coyote in the wooded creek area between Sleepy Hollow Rd and Lake Barcroft. Very scrawny,flimsy looking creature, like a sick dog. I hope it goes up to Culmore and kills some pollos.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Howlin' Wolf ()
Date: April 06, 2010 10:02AM

Izzy Wrote:
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> Should one be concerned if one is taking a
> leisurely walk in the woods i.e. Bull Run Regional
> Park? do packs of coyotes go after deer?

Coyote's do not normally run in packs. Under very severe circumstances they
might when there is a very serious shortage of food but there are plenty
of squirrels, rabbits, dogs, cat's, and trash for here. What people sometimes mistake for a pack is a litter of coyote's that haven't left momma yet.
Dumpster diving at KFC? Hmmm.....

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Father Earth ()
Date: June 17, 2010 02:25PM

Coyotes are exactly what this area needs. Although they aren't typically strong enough to take down an adult deer (they typically are only in pairs and don't normally form packs), they definitely have the ability to thin out some of the Northern Virginia deer herds. The most important thing is that they will eat rodents, raccoons, opossums, skunks, and foxes.

With more and more of these "prey" animals overwhelming the environment and taking it out of balance, a predator animal such as the coyote is a relatively harmless addition to the food chains of Northern Virginia.

As we finally see more of the predator animals (hawks, eagles, foxes, coyotes) moving back into the area, the numbers of prey animals should at least balance out, which is great news for the entire ecosystem and for my car. It's a shame that some cats and small dogs are killed by them, but if their owners were responsible and knew the potential risks, they wouldn't be in danger. In my opinion, there are too many little dogs and cats anyways.

I just wish that we could make a deal with wolves and bears to only eat the deer around here and to not get hit by cars or scare families who don't know enough about them to be cautious and respectful. The ecosystem in Northern Virginia and in much of the I-95 corridor has been out of whack for years and needs more of these predator animals to even things out.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: June 17, 2010 02:33PM

Father Earth Wrote:
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> Coyotes are exactly what this area needs.
> Although they aren't typically strong enough to
> take down an adult deer (they typically are only
> in pairs and don't normally form packs), they
> definitely have the ability to thin out some of
> the Northern Virginia deer herds. The most
> important thing is that they will eat rodents,
> raccoons, opossums, skunks, and foxes.



Coyotes eat cats and small dogs.....



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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: I am Spunky ()
Date: June 17, 2010 06:49PM

I have seen them! About every Wednesday for awhile at the 7-11 on 236 and Hummer. This coyote was driving a Catholic van full of illegals which they dropped off there at 7-11. Isn't that breaking the law? Imagine a church breaking the law. Do you think the Catholic church is eager to fill their pews with innocent virgin kids? Could they have an agenda?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: hahahhah ()
Date: June 17, 2010 06:52PM

@ spunky-

That was funny

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: June 17, 2010 11:05PM

Father Earth Wrote:
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> Coyotes are exactly what this area needs.
> Although they aren't typically strong enough to
> take down an adult deer (they typically are only
> in pairs and don't normally form packs), they
> definitely have the ability to thin out some of
> the Northern Virginia deer herds. The most
> important thing is that they will eat rodents,
> raccoons, opossums, skunks, and foxes.
>
> With more and more of these "prey" animals
> overwhelming the environment and taking it out of
> balance, a predator animal such as the coyote is a
> relatively harmless addition to the food chains of
> Northern Virginia.
>
> As we finally see more of the predator animals
> (hawks, eagles, foxes, coyotes) moving back into
> the area, the numbers of prey animals should at
> least balance out, which is great news for the
> entire ecosystem and for my car. It's a shame
> that some cats and small dogs are killed by them,
> but if their owners were responsible and knew the
> potential risks, they wouldn't be in danger. In
> my opinion, there are too many little dogs and
> cats anyways.
>
> I just wish that we could make a deal with wolves
> and bears to only eat the deer around here and to
> not get hit by cars or scare families who don't
> know enough about them to be cautious and
> respectful. The ecosystem in Northern Virginia
> and in much of the I-95 corridor has been out of
> whack for years and needs more of these predator
> animals to even things out.


Coyotes are generally considered pest animals. I have rabbits, fox, raccoons, and deer all around my yard, and they don't present any sort of problems. A coyote though? I'd probably end up having to shoot it. Your justification reminds me of the one that eco nuts used, with their reintroduction of Canadian wolves into Yellowstone. Now we have wolves running wild all throughout the Great Plains, even in Nebraska, which is an area not used to them. Coyotes and wolves are all cool within their own right, but we don't need a sudden population explosion of them where they don't belong (You're talking about an urban area now, with tons of pets, little kids, etc., and full of people who have no idea on how to deal with wildlife).

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: I am Spunky ()
Date: June 17, 2010 11:08PM

PL aren't we all exposed to one form or another of wildlife each day?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: June 17, 2010 11:18PM

bloody blisters Wrote:
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> Dagnabit Wrote:
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> > Who wins a fight
> > between a coyote and a fox?
>
>
> a coyote would fuck up a fox just due to its size,
> coyotes are more scavengers than hunters but im am
> sure they could hold their own if need be. plus
> they normally roam in packs whilst the foxes are
> more solitary. so blam coyotes win foxes failzors.


A fox really survives on its lonesome (Sometimes in a couple) through toughness, and extreme cleverness. Coyotes survive on being a little less clever, but also through organizing into packs. I've actually heard of a few cases where coyotes out west employed wolf type tactics in attacking dogs. One coyote would grab a dog's attention, and then the dog gives chase. The coyote then darts into some brush, the dog follows, and lying in wait is a pack of coyotes attempting an ambush. With wolves, they usually always win against a dog (Because they are huge, and there are so many of them), but with coyotes, larger dogs stand a good chance of surviving.

Hell, one case involved a Jack Russell that took on three coyotes, and lived to tell about it. He was relegated to life support for a while, but he actually successfully fought off a small pack of coyotes. That's a seriously tough SOB, because I know a guy who had five GSD's and Huskies, and they got jumped by a pack of Coyotes in their own back yard, and even they got messed up.

Btw, I like the fox where I live. I'm run into him a couple of times in the yard at night, and he's fun to watch. A coyote would make me a little nervous though, and a wolf would flat out scare the shit out of me. If I see a wolf ever come into my yard in an aggressive manner, it's being shot without any hesitation. A coyote on the other hand I might scare off, but with the fox it's a much more tame relationship, and I just leave him be.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Johnn ()
Date: June 17, 2010 11:31PM

I lived in faquire county and we had a serious coyote problem on our farm. I hunted them for 2 years and learned that around here they hunt in packs durring the spring and fall. Generally speaking they are in packs of 6-8. I started shooting them because they ambushed my dog one night. I went out late one night to smoke a cig and my dog came out back with me. I was on my deck and looked over to the left and sure enought there was a coyote just sitting there. My dog took off after it and chased it down to a tree line. Once my dog got to the tree line it was visiously attacked by what seemed 8 of them. I grabed my shotgun and poped a few off in the air and the attack stoped and my dog came back totally f-ed up. After that it was on. The coyotes lost the battle

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: cyote ()
Date: June 17, 2010 11:34PM

Besides the butcher coyotes are the number one killer of livestock in virginia, not old age or disease

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: coyoteyes ()
Date: June 17, 2010 11:45PM

Taken in Fairfax Station.
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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Dagnabit ()
Date: June 18, 2010 01:52AM

Well an oldie resurfaces. I forgot to post about month or so ago had coyote sighting in Fairfax City at roughly 1 am. I was driving down road were the old Woody's Ice Cream had been located when what I thought was a grey fox scampered in front of my car. But I thought to meself( I might have had one that's one beer that evening) that's one big fox so further observation determined it was my first actual coyote sighting. Still plenty of woods in that area for coyotes to live in. Still seeing a huge number of deer lately so the coyotes don't appear to be doing there business adequately. Thing is I try to do some hiking in the parklands around the area and I'm thinking I don't want to encounter a coyote. I'm come across the occasional deer in my walks but doesn't concern me too much just clap my hands and that usual works. And yes I've seen the video "when deer attack" But coyotes seem like they might be nasty, like coming upon a wild dog in the woods.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: I am Spunky ()
Date: June 18, 2010 02:07AM

Believe me that's nothing to the wild packs of kids in SE.

Anyone ever see an owl up close?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: June 18, 2010 08:28AM

A pair of coyotes has been spotted in Daniels Run Park not far from the site you mentioned. I heard that Fairfax City animal control has been monitoring the two coyotes because at least one has been labeled "agressive."


Dagnabit Wrote:
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> Well an oldie resurfaces. I forgot to post about
> month or so ago had coyote sighting in Fairfax
> City at roughly 1 am. I was driving down road were
> the old Woody's Ice Cream had been located when
> what I thought was a grey fox scampered in front
> of my car. But I thought to meself( I might have
> had one that's one beer that evening) that's one
> big fox so further observation determined it was
> my first actual coyote sighting. Still plenty of
> woods in that area for coyotes to live in. Still
> seeing a huge number of deer lately so the coyotes
> don't appear to be doing there business
> adequately. Thing is I try to do some hiking in
> the parklands around the area and I'm thinking I
> don't want to encounter a coyote. I'm come across
> the occasional deer in my walks but doesn't
> concern me too much just clap my hands and that
> usual works. And yes I've seen the video "when
> deer attack" But coyotes seem like they might be
> nasty, like coming upon a wild dog in the woods.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: jroc ()
Date: June 18, 2010 07:14PM

I saw a dead one on 66 East bound at the 50 West exit.

I also saw a dead one in the middle of Rt. 28 North, straight across from the Udvar-Hazy museum.

Both of these were seen in fall last year.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Karen ()
Date: July 10, 2010 07:25PM

just saw a coyote in Kings Park West today. Neighbors have seen one too.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: getitright ()
Date: July 10, 2010 07:39PM

Get it right the women are cougar not coyote.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Falls Churchian ()
Date: July 10, 2010 09:54PM

Several coyotes have been seen in the area of the West Falls Church Metro lately. They are ugly and seem to be hungry. Keep your pets inside!

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Eat More Chicken ()
Date: July 11, 2010 01:20AM

Leave the coyotes alone and they will take care of the loose cat problems.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Prince William County
Posted by: Diane ()
Date: March 25, 2011 09:29AM

March 2011. On the Osprey's golf course (I live on a green) during the late afternoon this week, I saw a coyote. We have woods & fox, deer, bunnies, but I have not seen this before. I couldn't get the camera fast enouugh to catch him closer.
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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: hoot ()
Date: March 25, 2011 03:46PM

>Anyone ever see an owl up close?

I realize the original post is a year old... but

I saw a great horned owl sitting in a tree on Euclid Street NW in Adams Morgan in 2009. Probably hunting all the rats in the alleys.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Prince William County
Posted by: Ben Crenshaw ()
Date: March 25, 2011 09:50PM

Diane Wrote:
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> March 2011. On the Osprey's golf course (I live
> on a green) during the late afternoon this week, I
> saw a coyote. We have woods & fox, deer, bunnies,
> but I have not seen this before. I couldn't get
> the camera fast enouugh to catch him closer.


I think you distracted him during his putting stroke

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Date: March 25, 2011 09:50PM

Osprey's golf course?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Adam ()
Date: March 26, 2011 12:05PM

Coyotes will not take a live deer, but they do help dispose of the carcases. They are deffinently coming to northern Virginia. I've been hearing reports of coyote calls for the last three years. if you're starting to see them, it means we have a sizable population.

Fortunately they will eat cats (natures revenge.) It's time to declaw your cats and bring them inside so they stop indiscrimetly killing our native fauna. Or else the coyote will get them. Bon a petit.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: curious ()
Date: March 26, 2011 12:39PM

I, for one, welcome our coyote liberators. Do with the deer and cats as you wish.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Wiley ()
Date: March 26, 2011 01:06PM

No Cause for Alarm, but Watch for Coyotes in Braddock

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/braddock/newsletter/august2010/coyotes.htm

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Wiley2 ()
Date: March 26, 2011 01:08PM


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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: wzuppp ()
Date: March 26, 2011 06:14PM

Couger like hot woman?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: FairfaxMatt ()
Date: March 31, 2011 05:57PM

I have a funny story. I live in Fairfax obviously, and one night (Sometime in mid to late February of 2011 I believe) I take the garbage bin out to the curb and hear strange howls similar to a wolves howl. So I go in a tell my dad, "Hey I think there may be a wolf out there." So he doesn't believe me. There are woods on both sides of my neighborhood, just to put that out there. But I heard in Wolf Trap Park they haven't seen a wolf in that area since 1793 (heard from a park ranger). So I didn't even believe myself for a minute.

About 15 to 20 minutes later, my dad and I are talking in the kitchen, and then my house's back motion sensor light goes on, and my dad swings his head and looks out there and goes, "WHOA!" and runs through the house and out the front door to try and cut off whatever he saw. Turns out he thought he saw a wolf go through the deck and I'm thinking, "Man, this is crazy" and then for the next 10 minutes we're arguing about what it was.

Just a day or two ago I found a Washington Post article about how coyotes are now meeting with wolves, (don't ask me how it's possible) and the coyotes are now acquiring a wolf-like tail, and more and more are coming into Fairfax County. So my dad's now convinced that he saw and I heard a mixed coyote. Just my strange story, but pertaining to the topic, like my sighting, it is not uncommon to see a coyote in Fairfax. I live in a busy area and I heard, and my dad saw a coyote.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: March 31, 2011 10:57PM

FairfaxMatt Wrote:
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> I have a funny story. I live in Fairfax obviously,
> and one night (Sometime in mid to late February of
> 2011 I believe) I take the garbage bin out to the
> curb and hear strange howls similar to a wolves
> howl. So I go in a tell my dad, "Hey I think there
> may be a wolf out there." So he doesn't believe
> me. There are woods on both sides of my
> neighborhood, just to put that out there. But I
> heard in Wolf Trap Park they haven't seen a wolf
> in that area since 1793 (heard from a park
> ranger). So I didn't even believe myself for a
> minute.
>
> About 15 to 20 minutes later, my dad and I are
> talking in the kitchen, and then my house's back
> motion sensor light goes on, and my dad swings his
> head and looks out there and goes, "WHOA!" and
> runs through the house and out the front door to
> try and cut off whatever he saw. Turns out he
> thought he saw a wolf go through the deck and I'm
> thinking, "Man, this is crazy" and then for the
> next 10 minutes we're arguing about what it was.
>
> Just a day or two ago I found a Washington Post
> article about how coyotes are now meeting with
> wolves, (don't ask me how it's possible) and the
> coyotes are now acquiring a wolf-like tail, and
> more and more are coming into Fairfax County. So
> my dad's now convinced that he saw and I heard a
> mixed coyote. Just my strange story, but
> pertaining to the topic, like my sighting, it is
> not uncommon to see a coyote in Fairfax. I live in
> a busy area and I heard, and my dad saw a coyote.


Out here it's VERY uncommon to see coyotes, and the last sighting I can recall in my neighborhood was back in the 1980's, maybe early 1990's.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: jimmy james ()
Date: March 31, 2011 11:37PM

there are a lot more than you think...i live in centreville and do a lot of bow hunting around manassas/clifton/centreville areas...ive killed coyotes in fairfax county almost every huntin season... just as soon as sun comes up in the morning or right as the sun has just about set, you can make a few squeaks with your mouth and every once in a while a coyote or fox will come out of their den and locate the squeak...they spend most of the daylight hours sleeping in their dens, therefore you never see them....ALSO to much of everyones surprise, I have seen black bear on the properties i hunt next to on the manassas battlefields, right on the manassas/centreville boundary...a few years back i was fortunate to kill one....western fairfax is pretty wild.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Sitty Slickker ()
Date: March 31, 2011 11:56PM

I have seen coyote in the area around the West Falls Church Metro. (inside the Beltway). We have a large population of rabbits, skunks, deer and other wildlife. The coyotes that I have seen usually come out around dusk and are very skittish. They have a kind-of sideways gait and run with their tails down. They look kind of like large foxes.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Vic Hitler ()
Date: April 01, 2011 04:37AM

Note to self. No more hiking by meself in Manassas Battlefield. don't want to be eaten by a bear.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Jose Rafael Jesus Francisco de Lopez ()
Date: April 01, 2011 05:27AM

I believe I saw a coyote standing in front of the Safeway in Annandale/Koreatown last week? Ole'


badda-bing

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: April 01, 2011 08:45AM

jimmy james Wrote:
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> there are a lot more than you think...i live in
> centreville and do a lot of bow hunting around
> manassas/clifton/centreville areas...ive killed
> coyotes in fairfax county almost every huntin
> season... just as soon as sun comes up in the
> morning or right as the sun has just about set,
> you can make a few squeaks with your mouth and
> every once in a while a coyote or fox will come
> out of their den and locate the squeak...they
> spend most of the daylight hours sleeping in their
> dens, therefore you never see them....ALSO to much
> of everyones surprise, I have seen black bear on
> the properties i hunt next to on the manassas
> battlefields, right on the manassas/centreville
> boundary...a few years back i was fortunate to
> kill one....western fairfax is pretty wild.


It wouldn't surprise me, since we had mountain lion tracks on my street last summer.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: April 01, 2011 09:06AM

I saw a werewolf drinkin a pina colada at Trader Joe's.
And his hair was perfect.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: April 03, 2011 08:36AM

They sell piña coladas at Trader Joes?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: BlueRidgeMtnBlue ()
Date: April 03, 2011 09:23AM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> jimmy james Wrote:
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> > there are a lot more than you think...i live in
> > centreville and do a lot of bow hunting around
> > manassas/clifton/centreville areas...ive killed
> > coyotes in fairfax county almost every huntin
> > season... just as soon as sun comes up in the
> > morning or right as the sun has just about set,
> > you can make a few squeaks with your mouth and
> > every once in a while a coyote or fox will come
> > out of their den and locate the squeak...they
> > spend most of the daylight hours sleeping in
> their
> > dens, therefore you never see them....ALSO to
> much
> > of everyones surprise, I have seen black bear
> on
> > the properties i hunt next to on the manassas
> > battlefields, right on the manassas/centreville
> > boundary...a few years back i was fortunate to
> > kill one....western fairfax is pretty wild.
>
>
> It wouldn't surprise me, since we had mountain
> lion tracks on my street last summer.

Can you verify this? Wildlife officials have been looking for proof of mountain lion's in Virginia for years and no evidence so far.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Bearclaw ()
Date: April 03, 2011 10:07AM

I lived with a female mountain lion over in the Hemlock Overlook last winter and she was the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads I'd ever met I do declare

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: April 03, 2011 10:30AM

Sorry to dissapoint, but according to us fish and wildlife the Eastern Panther is extinct.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/eastern-cougar-extinct-110303.html

Check out this video I captured of a Florida Panther in Naples. Sorry about the camera work.

http://floridapanthers.teamfanblog.info/fantastic-video-florida-panther-puma-concolor-in-collier-seminole-state-park/

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: BlueRidgeMtnBlue ()
Date: April 03, 2011 10:49AM

Atom Wrote:
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> Sorry to dissapoint, but according to us fish and
> wildlife the Eastern Panther is extinct.
>
> http://news.discovery.com/animals/eastern-cougar-e
> xtinct-110303.html
>
> Check out this video I captured of a Florida
> Panther in Naples. Sorry about the camera work.
>
> http://floridapanthers.teamfanblog.info/fantastic-
> video-florida-panther-puma-concolor-in-collier-sem
> inole-state-park/

Once in a while I see a story about someone allegedly seeing a mountain lion
but there's never a clear picture, poop (scat they call it), roadkill, or
a hunter shooting one. (it would be perfectly legal) I had a coworker
once who swore up and down that he saw six of them on his farm in Lynchburg
and two of them were on the roof of the house and four were in the
driveway. He's also the guy who told me that deer in Maryland can grow up to
six feet tall. Cheap wine can do funny things to ones mind over a period
of time.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: jimmy james ()
Date: April 03, 2011 12:33PM

hmm its interesting about the mountain lions..

since i moved to VA, i have always heard stories from other hunters/farmers about seeing mountain lions...I have a hunting club in Marshall (25 minutes from fairfax county) and last fall the hunting club president sent out an email about mountain lion sightings around the club and outskirts of town of marshall. I ran into a Game Warden out there and talked to him about it. He told me that these mountain lions are protected and if you shoot one, you would pretty much go to jail/heavily fined.... never did he mention that mountain lions have been reportedly extinct on the east coast....

up until now i just assumed there was a small population of wild cougars that exist in VA...but after seeing this thread, ive done a little google research and apparently there are thousands of sightings but NOTHING confirmed. conservation officers have even declared them extinct around here....

I want to believe they still exist around the state.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: BlueRidgeMtnBlue ()
Date: April 03, 2011 12:57PM

Interesting article here about mountain lions in Virginia. The suggestion
that there may be some "hybrids" out there as a result of the illegal
animal import trade sounds reasonable. I'm still doing some Googling
over the issue of legal to hunt or not. I saw an article years ago that
quoted a Va. Game official as saying they're not protected and good to go
but I'll have to follow up.

http://rule-303.blogspot.com/2008/04/mountain-lions-in-virginia-how-theyre.html

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Jimmy James ()
Date: April 03, 2011 01:12PM

ha, yea i read that too.

Its strange how an article with a Game official saying that it is legal to hunt cougars in VA....when game officials have declared these cougars extinct on the east coast....you would think they would be extremely protected by the law (as i was told by the game warden i spoke to) since they are so rare. There isnt even a license you can buy to hunt them here in VA...VA's big game license certainly does not have a tag for cougar.

But the escaped pet/hybrid theory is certainly possible...i do a lot of fishing on the occoquan reservoir behind clifton...2 or 3 summers ago there was an alligator that my buddy and I saw on a few occasions.. he would be swimming along the banks or laying on a log when we'd see him. This other guy i know that fishes out there was always a wild crazy man, he ended up shooting the 4 and a half foot gator. but obviously gators dont live in VA..it had to be someones illegal pet, and once it got too large they released it.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: April 03, 2011 07:03PM

The mountain lions are very real, and I overheard a park ranger out on Skyline Drive discussing it with a visitor about 12 or 13 years ago. He said: "Oh yeah, we've had sightings of them in the Shenandoah. They're around". These cats wander up to 120, 140 miles from the spot where they normally dwell, and they are extremely elusive. You could literally walk within 10 feet of one and never know it, especially if it's up in a tree.

I also know some individuals who've gotten them on trail cams out in Maryland, and in NY there were mountain lion calls recorded. These animals are still in existence on the East Coast, the officials simply bullshit so they don't have to worry about "Protecting us" from something that "Doesn't exist". You can tell a mountain lion track easily as well, simply due to the size. We had a 40lb. bobcat around here a few years ago, but there's no way it has paws at least three inches in diameter.


If you want to talk about bullshit wildlife officials, I saw a wolf on property that we own in UpState NY in the mid-90's. It was an enormous looking canine, and it was trotting away, then paused briefly to turn and watch us, before it finally trotted off again into the woodline. Now, we all know what we saw, and plenty of other residents in that part of NY State know full well about wolves living up there too. For some reason, though, the NY wildlife officials always scoff at the reports as being coyote sightings, despite the fact that a large wolf population is confirmed to exist right across the border in Canada (Less than 40 miles away). I guess wolves respect borders, and register with passports, right?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Chris ()
Date: April 04, 2011 08:35PM

First off, as far as the the eastern mountain lion, there were plenty of reports about 10 years ago, but nothing recent. Your skyline drive story is very much what I would hear when I lived in Shenandoah. Also, when camping along the river at the base of the mountains, we would a bizarre howling hear all the home owners in the area claimed to be the lion and all the pare rangers would talk about sightings but I have not heard anything recent so maybe now extinct.

As far as the coyote, there was a huge explosion about 7 years ago. I now live in Burke and saw 2 in one summer, heard them on occasion and one ran right next to me about 2 yards away at night (the other I saw had been hit by a car and was running aimlessly on three legs holding it's broken leg out front...weird). My theory was that it was a year or so after the cicadas. So with the cicadas around, they small mammal population blew up and then the coyotes had awesome food for a while so they grew in population as well. Haven't really heard about them again until just this month.

This morning, there was a large something (I thought it was a rabbit, my wife thought it was a cat) ripped to pieces with long strips of entrails all over on a neighbor's driveway (we live off a pipestem and she's a nice person, no kids and there is no reason someone would have thrown road kill on her driveway) so we figure it must also have been a coyote. Still though, everything I hear is that they are pretty much harmless. What about that fatal attack in Canada not so long ago? Some hiker/singer adult girl who was hanging out in nature was killed by coyotes or something. So I'm not sure what to believe.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: foxherder ()
Date: April 04, 2011 08:39PM

it was definitely a rabbit that got caught up under a lawn mower and got shredded up on your neighbors driveway...DUH!

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: chimicanga ()
Date: April 04, 2011 09:02PM

Vic Hitler Wrote:
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> Note to self. No more hiking by meself in Manassas
> Battlefield. don't want to be eaten by a bear.

One wandered into a 7-11 in Manassas fairly recently.

As for coyotes: they are all over Fairfax County. A shit load in west Springfield. Saw one in Franconia. Huntley Meadows has at least one documented breeding couple. Other known pairs in Belvoir and in the Accotink Refuge. And I heard a bunch in Mason Neck last Winter, which startled me as eastern coyotes are generally not prone to vocalization.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Chris ()
Date: April 04, 2011 10:40PM

Can't remember where I heard this and I really don't like spreading hearsay or non-comfirmed facts but I thought I heard somewhere that the species making recent issues is actually the western coyote, which would make sense in what the former person said. They are also bigger and more aggressive, yes?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: jimmy james ()
Date: April 04, 2011 11:32PM

i believe that the coyotes migrated east through Canada about a century ago, and mated with the canadian grey wolves along the way....the descendants of the coyote/wolf hybrid are todays eastern coyotes....thats why they are much larger than the western coyotes... they did a study on eastern coyotes and found that they all had some percentage of wolf in them.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: peyote ()
Date: April 04, 2011 11:40PM


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Re: Coyote sightings in Prince William County
Posted by: Diane ()
Date: April 10, 2011 09:32AM

Blue Ridge Mtn Man...your video of panther (or whatever) was fascinating! I can't beleive you stayed with him...I would have run the other way!

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Lion Eyes ()
Date: April 10, 2011 09:55AM

W.r.t mountain lions and extinction - be careful about jumping to the conclusion that there are no mountain lions in the east because the East Mountain Lion is extinct.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: animal ()
Date: April 10, 2011 09:57AM

chimicanga Wrote:
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> As for coyotes: they are all over Fairfax County.

I had one limp through my Sully Station "back yard" on three legs (looked like it was literally on its last legs, too) - that "yard' is only, like, 10 feet deep til the next house.

They're around.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: cat hater ()
Date: April 10, 2011 10:35AM

Does anyone know for certain where ther is one? I am trying to get rid of my wife's disgusting cat

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: April 10, 2011 12:35PM

Diane,

Just to clarify, that was my video, and it definently was a Florida panther (maybe mixed with a little Texas panther blood.)

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: chimichanga ()
Date: April 11, 2011 11:01PM

cat hater Wrote:
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> Does anyone know for certain where ther is one? I
> am trying to get rid of my wife's disgusting cat

Hemlock Overlook...
Fountainhead Park...
Huntley Meadows...
Accotink Wildlife Refuge...
Pohick Bay Regional Park...
Rock Creek Park...

... all have coyote populations

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: ProVallone ()
Date: April 12, 2011 08:23AM

Hopefully the Coyotes will develop a taste for Beaner, and decent folk can go to 7-11 for a Slurpee again.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Prince William County
Posted by: Diane ()
Date: April 14, 2011 08:12AM

Sorry, Atom. Credit due YOU for the amazing video!

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Neighborhood Watch Night Owl ()
Date: October 15, 2011 03:51AM

I live off of 236 and Maple Ave near Woodson High School. My neighbors joke that I am the "pistol packing mamma" because late at night I walk the street for relaxation, neighborhood watch, and wild animal watching, and being 100 lbs I always bring my piece for protection. I thought I had seen it all until I looked out my bedroom window at 10 in the morning and saw a young coyote walking around in my yard . Since then I have heard it scratching at trash barrels at night. My next door neighbor says there is a large hole in the base of the tree out back which could easily be a den. The sighting was a week ago and since then both my husband and I have heard it howling and crying both in the day and night.
I am torn between shooting it because of the potential danger to our pets and small children, or just letting nature do it's thing.
Our cop friends tell us that the county will only come unless it is contained. Sure, after I put a leash on it and feed it some steak and fries I will give them a call.
We have also thought of getting a large trap cage, but then what does the county do with it?
Any thoughts or good advice would be appreciated.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: wiley ()
Date: October 15, 2011 07:15AM

Get a pack of terriers and let them at the coyote

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: in my dreams ()
Date: October 15, 2011 09:42AM

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Yucky24. ()
Date: October 15, 2011 03:54PM

They should be hunted to extinction.

As should any other dangerous species such as black bears, foxes, mountain lions, wolves, wild pigs, poisonous snakes, poisonous spiders and any other dangerous creature that the misanthropic environ-mentals are trying to plague us with.

All of these species are a threat to our citizens.

http://www.varmintal.net/attac.htm

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Dat's All Folk's! ()
Date: October 15, 2011 07:27PM

Here's an actual photo of a coyote sighted in Fairfax County!

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Open House ()
Date: October 15, 2011 08:12PM


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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: I think that is a sheep ()
Date: October 15, 2011 08:32PM

Show me a real coyote.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: catch me ()
Date: October 15, 2011 10:10PM

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Brecon Ridge ()
Date: October 15, 2011 10:22PM

Have seen one coyote in neighborhood off Braddock Rd, and one very large cat the size of a medium dog. Have seen large variety of wildlife while mtn biking around Wakefield Park, including three owls sitting together on a branch. Amazing that I never saw any wildlife while growing up in the area.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Coyotes & Bobcats n Braddock/shirley gate ()
Date: October 15, 2011 10:57PM

The woods off Shirley Gate/Braddock as recently as 2 weeks ago. Heck the Coyotes run right up the street 2 at a time, I've seen them. You may think " Wow thats a big fox"..nope Coyote. When in the 'subdivisions, they jump down in storm culverts, then pop up when the coast is clear. Bobcats are like ghosts, silent and quick! I've seen 3 in the past year, but only for a milisecond...like ghosts I'll tell ya! They don't make a sound and are quick as a ...cat...

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Near George Mason ()
Date: October 16, 2011 05:50PM

Saw the one near Maple Ave and 236 one morning on the way to work - 6 am. Not sure what is was, now I know.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Ytuu ()
Date: October 16, 2011 11:22PM

Seen a brown adult coyote in Kings Park west caught in the neighbors motion light on it's way to the back yard storm drain. A few of the neighbors have seen it in their driveways & in the road over the last two years. Used to have many fox who had a den up the street but they all have disappeared

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Dr. Acula ()
Date: October 22, 2011 03:12AM

Just saw a Coyote on Rolling Rd tonight at 3:00 AM near the exit for Fairfax County Parkway. It was a little further down, more towards Belvoir.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: jaydee ()
Date: October 29, 2011 04:35PM

If you see Coyotes..you have a lot of them. There is no way to get rid of them..the more pressure on them the more they produce. I give them "aversion therapy"..shooting to kill as often as possible keeps them afraid of humans. If you don't do this they will come into your home eventually and open your pantry.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Elle ()
Date: October 29, 2011 07:54PM

they ate my cats

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Perry ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:49PM

I have seen 2 roadkill coyotes in the last year one just this weekend on old keene mill road between hillside and huntsman and one the summer before last on rolling road just near saratoga shopping center. The one on old keene was not very large but the one on rolling was very large. I have attached the pictures. Also a friend of mine has had one stalk him and his dog (a 60 lb pitbull\hound) just north of mark twain elementary on franconia road in locust park.
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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: John E Walker ()
Date: November 09, 2011 11:03PM

jaydee Wrote:
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> If you see Coyotes..you have a lot of them. There
> is no way to get rid of them..the more pressure on
> them the more they produce. I give them "aversion
> therapy"..shooting to kill as often as possible
> keeps them afraid of humans. If you don't do this
> they will come into your home eventually and open
> your pantry.


So they're pretty much the same as illegals or libs?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Neighborhood Watch Night Owl ()
Date: November 22, 2011 01:12PM

Update on my coyotes. We put a night vision camera up yesterday after seeing many in the backyard.(The pic is of one of the baby pups) We know of at least 3 generations living in our yard now.
Last night I was walking and heard a raccoon screaming across the street. I ran over with my flashlight and was face to face with one trying to get some dinner. He had his teeth showing !! Hello, are you kidding me? The coon ran off and he went and hid in the tall grass and started growling. Sounded like a wolf. Then another one started coming around the other side of the house. I decided it was time to back up slowly and get home.
This morning I found coyote poop and part of what they did catch for dinner on my front walkway. These guys are getting way too close for comfort.
Put more calls in to Animal Control and now Sharon Bullova's office. Response- sorry nothing we can do.
Waiting to hear back from them on how to trap and kill them legally.
I may call the newspaper next. Why have Animal Control if they can't control animals?
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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Neighborhood Watch Night Owl ()
Date: November 22, 2011 02:04PM

Just got off the phone with some asshole over at Animal Control. His name is Burger.
Hey Burger, if you are reading this...Don't be knocking on my door. I can't shoot a coyote growling at me in my own yard but there is no law against shooting a human in self defense !!!
I'm gonna trap the whole lot of them and dump them in your yard and see how you like bringing a flashlight and gun with you just to bring your groceries in you pompous ass !!!!

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: psycho ()
Date: November 22, 2011 02:16PM

Neighborhood Watch Night Owl Wrote:
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> Just got off the phone with some asshole over at
> Animal Control. His name is Burger.
> Hey Burger, if you are reading this...Don't be
> knocking on my door. I can't shoot a coyote
> growling at me in my own yard but there is no law
> against shooting a human in self defense !!!
> I'm gonna trap the whole lot of them and dump them
> in your yard and see how you like bringing a
> flashlight and gun with you just to bring your
> groceries in you pompous ass !!!!


mmm... deliberatly corners a wild animal whilst its pups are close by ... and then is suprised when its PO'd

growled? its hardly a mass attack of killers ...

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: KDbn9 ()
Date: November 22, 2011 08:05PM

Last spring I encountered one in the middle of the road on University Dr. near the intersection with Jean St. (Fairfax City). This was around 8:30am one morning on the way to work.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: jr the tall 1 ()
Date: November 22, 2011 08:08PM

To NWNO

get a cheap crossbow and some good bolts and shoot the problem animals in YOUR yard and it is legal. no fire arms over 500 FPS allowed i think, a 400 fps crossbow will kill at 10 yards

kill the mom first the babies will be easy after that..

the "animal shelters" kill animals all the time, domestic only....ooooh

to psy-o
guess we need more copperheads and rattlers too?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: All over DR ()
Date: November 27, 2011 12:50PM

All over Daniels Run, by the Fairfax City golf course. Multiple sightings, numerous packs of these animals, and some are actually pretty big. 40-50 lbs. They aren't the scraggly looking ones that used to be in the area either, which makes you wonder, are they breeding here, or are newer, stronger ones moving in?


A sort of related topic, armadillos have now been spotted as far as north as the Carolinas. That's right, from Texas they are making the trek north, for reasons unknown. In the next couple years, they shall be in FFX as well.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Les ()
Date: November 27, 2011 01:11PM

Start with the food source. Don't litter food outside. Is trash put out in secure trashcans? We've got a really stupid townhomes cluster on the other side of the woods that puts out all the trash on the side of the streat and the animals come out at night to feast. I've seen raccoons, fox, coyote, deer, ... Those newer homes were built without any fenced in areas to hold outside things.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Bounty Man ()
Date: November 27, 2011 02:03PM

Is there a bounty on them in Fairfax co?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Wile Eeee ()
Date: November 27, 2011 09:33PM

I have seen several Coyotes in the area of the West Falls Church Metro. (inside the beltway). They have a distinct gait, run kind of side ways with their head and tail down and avoid humans.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Joseph Hanley ()
Date: December 09, 2011 01:37PM

You can find my profile on Face book and search my name. I've seen the devastation the coyotes can do to a ranch first hand when I lived in Oklahoma. I know how to take care of them and have the tools and personnel to do so. We will hunt them free of charge if the county is unable to pay a bounty. Please feel free to contact me through email at joey011582@yahoo.com or facebook.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Scott Schuler ()
Date: January 04, 2012 11:12AM

I can confirm there are certainly coyotes in Fairfax because I shot one with my bow and arrow two nights ago in Great Falls. It was a 45 pund male who was hunting with two other coyotes about 15 minutes before sunset. They trotted behind me while I was 15 feet up in my stand and I stopped the lead yote with a yelp and got off a clean shot that dropped him 5 yards from where I shot him. I was hunting a 5 acre private residence whose owners have small dogs and they were conserned with the recent coyote sightings and the threat to their pets. 100% confirm they are here and I have pictures to confirm.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: January 04, 2012 11:44AM

I saw one today on Blake Lane, small and young but otherwise healthy looking.
I hope it avoids the heros that can't wait to kill something.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: SAMMY ()
Date: January 04, 2012 12:52PM

Night Owl

If they have pups, keep away from them. Thousands of coyotes live in the Chicago area and other metropolitan areas and go unnoticed - they are very shy creatures. As far as being a threat to pets - pet owners shouldn't let thier pets out on thier own at night or during the day - it is irresponsible. There are ways that coyotes and humans can coexist. As for "killing all predators" - that is bs. We have enroached on their land to and the are crucial to a healthy ecosystem. Imagine all the mice, rats and other disease-carrying critters that would be around without them.

Shooting a gun or bow, or laying out poison (that could also be eaten by people pets or children) in a populated area is MUCh more dangerous than the threat of a coyote.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Mary ()
Date: January 06, 2012 03:45AM

I live in Old Town Manassas. I have seen a single coyote in my yard 3 times, until tonight...Tonight it was 2 Coyotes. This time my boyfriend also saw them.

They were not the same mangy one who has been hanging around. First time I saw one I thought I was seeing things. The mangy one was super Ugly...seemed hungry and scary. Tonights pair looked very well fed...that doesnt sit so well with me either....

We live right behind Manassas Shopping Center. Now our little dog cant go outside without the Big dog. And I am sure to make lot of noise before I go taking the trash out....they seem just a little too brave for my liking.

One night the mangy one was inches from my front window, sitting under the eaves staying outta the rain.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Stones ()
Date: January 06, 2012 08:20AM

My guess is that half the people who see coyotes are actually seeing fox. The fox around here are huge.

Regardless, coyotes were everywhere about 8-10 years ago. The cicadas came and went. The next season was a huge surge in small mammals that ate them as a food source and following that was a huge surge in fox and coyote. I saw a bunch around this time. One running with a broken front leg on Lee Chapel.

Coyote will stalk prey and fox tend to be scavengers and in this area, live mostly off road kill. I have foxes living under my deck and they are perfectly harmless. My out door cat even mingles with them some time.

The person who mentioned the gait, that's a huge difference. A coyote kind of floats and the stride is much longer. A fox has a super quick stride, like a trot but then also appears to bounce when going faster. A fox will also face you and bark. They usually run but stop and look at you. A coyote usually just gets away. Might look back, but probably won't stop, sit and stare. A lot of this also makes a difference if you are near their den.

Anyway, I didn't know coyotes were back until this thread and it looks like some of you have legitimately found some. I only write this so people who think they have coyotes can tell the difference if they are fox no action is needed. They won't bother you unless they eat a rabid something off the road.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: stones ()
Date: January 06, 2012 08:23AM

Scott Schuler Wrote:
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> I can confirm there are certainly coyotes in
> Fairfax because I shot one with my bow and arrow
> two nights ago in Great Falls. It was a 45 pund
> male who was hunting with two other coyotes about
> 15 minutes before sunset. They trotted behind me
> while I was 15 feet up in my stand and I stopped
> the lead yote with a yelp and got off a clean shot
> that dropped him 5 yards from where I shot him. I
> was hunting a 5 acre private residence whose
> owners have small dogs and they were conserned
> with the recent coyote sightings and the threat to
> their pets. 100% confirm they are here and I have
> pictures to confirm.

I agree with what SAMMY said but you do what you have to do. Post your pics though. You should get a tattoo like the tattoo in "Hostel" because you are now a coyote killer. Maybe the trend will spread.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Pulpy Frank ()
Date: January 06, 2012 08:35AM

We need a bounty system in the area. They are everywhere.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: January 06, 2012 09:28AM

I vote for more coyotes and less Yuppies and illegal aliens

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Nokesville Redneck ()
Date: January 12, 2012 12:32PM

I killed one in Nokesville Va.
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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Soss ()
Date: February 07, 2012 07:58PM

I found this site by doing a search of Coyote's in Fairfax County. It was about a month ago on Henderson Rd. right near that really big house/horse ranch near the sharp bend, a mile or so after you turn off Yates Ford road coming from Manassas. It was about 5:15 am, and had I been closer, I would have mowed its ass over!

Yes keep the pets inside, especially any female dogs in heat. therwise you may end up with a litter of Coy Dog pups!

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Foxey lady ()
Date: February 07, 2012 08:06PM

If you see a fox in the daytime, does that mean in might have rabies? I thought those suckers were nocturnal.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Henderson Rd ()
Date: February 07, 2012 08:06PM

I can hear them at night. Yelping like crazy.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: February 08, 2012 07:26AM

Nokesville Redneck Wrote:
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> I killed one in Nokesville Va.

Good show!
Now, I hope you get cancer.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: wiley ()
Date: February 08, 2012 07:33AM

"If you see a fox in the daytime, does that mean in might have rabies? I thought those suckers were nocturnal."


not necessarily some foxes go out during day
probably nocturnal to avoid the traffic

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Soss ()
Date: February 08, 2012 01:35PM

Just when I thought I saw the only Coyote I would ever see on Henderson Road, I was two cars back on Henderson Road this morning and wone ran out in front of the full size pickup in the front. They ALMOST got it but spiked their brakes which of course cause a chain reaction. And they were so close too!

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: animal ()
Date: February 08, 2012 01:48PM

The feral cats in my neighborhood have removed most of the prey, so the coyotes don't seem to come around (awhile back there was a wounded one trotting (as best it could) through my back yard, but that was like a year ago).

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: only seen two of them ()
Date: February 08, 2012 01:55PM

first time was about 10/11 years ago, along the creek bed by the parking garage/deck of the 4 big red brick office buildings off eaton place.

at first i thought it was a dog, then realized it wasnt and was maybe a fox. those that have said their gait is unique are spot on, as this thing wasnt moving like any fox i had ever seen before.

then a couple years ago one right in my backyard, over near wolf trap. havent seen once since, as i imagine all the deer have kicked their coyote asses so much they dont want any more pain, so they've moved on.

if only i could train the fox and groundhogs to kick the asses of all the deer things would be good.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Coyote or fox? ()
Date: February 13, 2012 12:39AM

I think it's hard to tell. We saw what we initially thought was a fox before dusk on our street in Ffx, stalking a person walking a small toy dog. It ran off, and in retrospect looked more like a coyote. People tend to make assumptions based on what they know--you don't expect to see a coyote in suburbia, especially when there are limited public parks or "wilderness" areas, so our expectations are just now catching up to the new arrivals.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: wiley ()
Date: February 13, 2012 08:30AM

I haven't seen a coyote in over a year. Over were that ice scream store used to be on main street(near cottman's) but i've seen even more foxes than in the past. hell almost hit one the other night. Ain't coyotes going to go after the foxes or they have a peace treaty?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Andrew ()
Date: February 20, 2012 09:05PM

Neighbor saw one in her yard on 2/16/2012. We're near Clifton Rd & Maple Branch Rd., about 1 mile east of the town of Clifton. Plenty of foxes in our area ... for now.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: fredy ()
Date: February 21, 2012 07:59AM

I am hearing them howl like crazy at night now in Fairfax Station, sounds like a human scream and before morons comment, no not a human screaming

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Aryan_Foster ()
Date: February 21, 2012 09:39AM

fredy - you are the real moron here.

The 'human scream' you are hearing is a fox-call. This has been well documented and is commonly understood. We hear it all the time in Clifton and know better.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Clifton and Henderson Rd ()
Date: February 21, 2012 04:42PM

Neighbor said she saw one last night in her driveway.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Dunno ()
Date: February 21, 2012 10:21PM

Last week I saw a dead animal on the shoulder of the 28 north exit ramp off of 66 west that I thought might be one, but it was kind of mangled and hard to tell.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Uh oh ()
Date: February 28, 2012 07:25AM

between homeless and coyotes in the woods i think twice sometimes about going for a hike alone these days goldilocks




http://articles.cnn.com/2009-10-29/entertainment/canada.singer.killed_1_coyotes-taylor-mitchell-canadian-folk-singer?_s=PM:SHOWBIZ

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: RaeRae ()
Date: April 03, 2012 11:37PM

Hey Chris
i live in Lorton right near Ft Belvoir. About a month ago at about 10am a coyote ran into my backyard grabbed a squirrel and ran off with it in its mouth. A few days later I saw a dead coyote along 7100 close to Rte 1. They are definitely here...kinda scary as the live one i saw just pounced so quickly and with force that i can imagine that if one was intent on causing harm to a human if would be no problem.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: notfairfaxbutAtown ()
Date: April 03, 2012 11:55PM


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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Ewww ()
Date: April 03, 2012 11:59PM

So, if you have a big dog that you like to put in your fenced yard at night, would a coyote attack the dog or vice versa? Maybe now my redneck neighbors will change their habits and bring their Rottie in at night.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Sorry ()
Date: April 04, 2012 12:01AM


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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: dagnabit ()
Date: April 05, 2012 06:32AM

haven't seen coyote in long time but foxes all the time. I'd think coyotes would go after the foxes?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: postpoppunk ()
Date: April 06, 2012 07:40AM

I hope that the Coyotes take over and kill most humans. I have always wanted nature to take back what we have fucked up --- even if using force. It would, also, thin out the herd of humans by killing off the weak, sick and ignorant.

I wish we had bears, hundreds of bears.

A Minor Threat

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: April 06, 2012 08:15AM

postpoppunk Wrote:
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> I hope that the Coyotes take over and kill most
> humans. I have always wanted nature to take back
> what we have fucked up --- even if using force. It
> would, also, thin out the herd of humans by
> killing off the weak, sick and ignorant.
>
> I wish we had bears, hundreds of bears.

agree times 1,000

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Mr. Jingles ()
Date: April 07, 2012 03:30AM

Ever seen the movie WOLFEN? ghost wolves of New York City



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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: John jr ()
Date: May 29, 2012 01:31PM

Saw one walking down the road this weekend in Mason Neck. Im sure their is more.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: rip road runner ()
Date: June 17, 2012 07:56AM

Dagnabit Wrote:
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> Anyone seen any repeated sightings of coyotes in
> these parts? Saw the recent news story about the
> police having to track a mess of them in New York
> City(pace).(wolfen) I figure with the parkland
> around the Great Fals area there should be
> sightings on a regular basis. I see fox' on a
> regular basis these days. And understand that the
> grey fox will come out during the day and not
> necessarily because of rabies. Who wins a fight
> between a coyote and a fox?
> I understand you can see weasals all over Tysons
> Corner.
.




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mated with wolves
Posted by: taxpayer ()
Date: June 27, 2012 02:43PM


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Re: mated with wolves
Posted by: woods in Clifton ()
Date: June 27, 2012 04:39PM

We have a coyote and we have foxes in our development. Mating with wolves is news to me.

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Re: mated with wolves
Posted by: HowlinWolf ()
Date: June 27, 2012 04:50PM

woods in Clifton Wrote:
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Mating with wolves is news to me.



Don't try screwing one of them. They might be hard to catch and
they can carry rabies. Better stick with humans.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Les is more ()
Date: June 28, 2012 05:36AM

haven't seen a coyote in ages but foxes all over the place

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: June 28, 2012 08:14AM

Leaving the house in the 4AM to 5AM timeframe, I've been seeing a young coyote roaming around the Arlington Blvd, Fairfax Blvd, Blake Lane, Pickett Road area.
Looks healthy and alert. You can only get a quick glimpse before he bolts.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Braddock Rd ()
Date: June 28, 2012 11:54AM

There appeared to be one this morning on the side of the road (roadkill) on Braddock Road just outside the beltway. Thought it was a fox at first but at second glane I'm pretty sure it was a coyote.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: JenK ()
Date: June 28, 2012 12:06PM

This area is overpoulated. If you care about your $2,000 poodle, keep it ona leash, they're animals, they didn't choose to lose their forests so we could have more homes in ffx cty. Enough seem to be getting run over, just get over it.

I had a HUGE fucking skunk in my yard in Springfield about 12 years ago(and a little one too) I stayed out of the yard at night and secured the trash better. I guess you'd be happier if I'd shot it? And it was HUGE, I had no idea they could even get that big.

If it breaks in your house, yeah, shoot it, if not, try to get along with nature....now please berate me for caring about animals and show me a ton of articles of coyotes attacking people, I know it'll come..

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Wolfgang01 ()
Date: July 06, 2012 12:32AM

I saw a dead coyote on Braddock Rd (just outside the beltway) last week. I stopped to have a look and it appeared to be pretty healthy (before its encounter with whatever hit it), about 50 lbs.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Les Nesman ()
Date: July 06, 2012 06:26AM

"Leaving the house in the 4AM to 5AM timeframe, I've been seeing a young coyote roaming around the Arlington Blvd, Fairfax Blvd, Blake Lane, Pickett Road area.
Looks healthy and alert. You can only get a quick glimpse before he bolts'


I've heard Daniels Run Park and the Army Navy Golf course in Fairfax City has had many sightings of coyotes.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: baddudejim ()
Date: July 27, 2012 04:22PM

Yes that 7-11 is NUTS its full of Mexicans you can't even get out of the car and they are asking for work. PLEASE man I just want coffee!!

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Lester ()
Date: July 27, 2012 04:36PM

They come out during the day because ground squirrels are up in the trees at night. I've see them stalking squirrels in the late afternoon or early evening.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Dagnabit ()
Date: September 30, 2012 08:02AM

Recent sighting in Fairfax City near Daniels Run park, which is suppose to be loaded with them pesky varmints. Turning off Fairfax blvd. onto Rebel Run(which goes by Fairfax High) immediately upon turning saw a big grey coyote pass across in front of scurrying into the woods behind the Anchorage motel.

Also see lots of foxes these days, no not the human kind unfortunately, but had recent sighting of one very large fox. Brown colored body but with distinctive grey tail. Are them coyotes and foxes cross breeding?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Dagnabit ()
Date: September 30, 2012 09:20AM

Is there a demonstration video of someone puffing up and making oneself larger when confronted by a coyote?


http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/braddock/newsletter/august2010/coyotes.htm

No Cause for Alarm, but Watch for Coyotes in Braddock


County Wildlife Biologist, Victoria Monroe, has confirmed that, yes, we have had a County-wide population of coyotes since 2000. Coyotes are the only natural mid-sized predator in Fairfax County, and healthy adults will actively hunt fawns, yearling deer and small or injured adult deer. They can account for up to 60 percent of all fawn mortalities in a local deer population. It is possible that a family group of coyotes lives in the general area of Lake Accotink, among other locations. In fact, several have been seen in Kings Park.

The county population of coyotes is considered to be healthy. Coyotes rarely contract rabies and are not a rabies target species (unlike raccoons, bats or red foxes). Due to an overabundance of natural prey sources, coyotes do not generally pose a threat to humans or their pets. Red foxes are more likely to “stalk” cats or small dogs on private property than are coyotes.

Eastern coyotes do not generally exceed 60 pounds. Their appearance can make them seem larger due to thick undercoats, long legs and a deep chest. Coyotes are highly social, and considered to be intelligent wild canids. They form bonded pairs and the previous year’s young stay to help raise new litters. Coyotes have the most diverse array of vocalizations of any native mammal in North America.

The Fairfax County Wildlife Biologist provides the following advice:
•As with all wildlife, coyotes should not be approached, touched, baited or fed. It is important to keep local wildlife “wild”.
• Do not feed your pets outdoors. If you do, bring the food bowl in at night to reduce the likelihood of wildlife (primarily foxes and raccoons) being attracted to the food at night.
• Keep your dogs on a leash when you go for walks off private property. This is County ordinance.
•Coyotes belong to the canid family. It is important to “assert” your presence if you see one. Do not run. Make yourself appear larger than you are (puff up), wave your arms, and make noise.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Happy guy ()
Date: September 30, 2012 08:19PM

I shot a coyote in berryville that was 65 pounds. 8 months ago I put a trail cam in my backyard and over a month recorded a pack of 10.

The most I ever have seen was in WV on a hunting trip. In the AM we were walking in a gully per say and about 400 yards up on a ridge 30 plus were running along it. I just about craped my pants seeing that many together.

They are everywhere now. I have not seen them with my own eyes but have on camera and hear them houling when emergency vehicles are going to a call.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Happy guy ()
Date: September 30, 2012 08:23PM

Dagnabit Wrote:
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>
> Also see lots of foxes these days, no not the
> human kind unfortunately, but had recent sighting
> of one very large fox. Brown colored body but with
> distinctive grey tail. Are them coyotes and foxes
> cross breeding?

Coyotes kill foxes in most situations. Around here the coyotes eat so much road kill they dont have to prey on other animals yet unless they are easy targets. Rumor has it they are cross breading with domestic dogs hence the large size.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: lee ()
Date: April 01, 2013 10:10AM

I just spotted on on Mar 23, 2013, in the woods just off the Horner Rd Commuter Lot between I-95, Prince William Pkwy, and Telegraph rd. while I was hiking in this area for the first time.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: ex-Lester ()
Date: April 01, 2013 10:43AM

One of the tv stations ran a story on a sighting in Arlington of a pack that ran through a residential neighborhood.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Spoon ()
Date: April 01, 2013 06:39PM

Not Fairfax, but one ran right in front of me on Spout Run in Arlington about a month ago. It looked skinny and mangy, but still cool. There are a few foxes around too that seem unafraid of people. I walked past one and was about ten feet away, it didn't even look at me.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: No your name ()
Date: April 01, 2013 07:02PM

A few years ago I put a trail cam after hearing cotote pups in my backyard/woods. At first I was not sure what it was but started hearing howling at night when fire trucks were heard in the distance.

I set the trail cam to video and captured a few minutes of coyotes on the tape. I counted out 14-18 idividual coyotes. I would post up the video but due to FFU stalkers my house would be easily recognized.

I live just outside of Fairfax City.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Now and Then ()
Date: April 02, 2013 08:07AM

All over DR Wrote:
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> All over Daniels Run, by the Fairfax City golf
> course. Multiple sightings, numerous packs of
> these animals, and some are actually pretty big.
> 40-50 lbs. They aren't the scraggly looking ones
> that used to be in the area either, which makes
> you wonder, are they breeding here, or are newer,
> stronger ones moving in?
>
>
> A sort of related topic, armadillos have now been
> spotted as far as north as the Carolinas. That's
> right, from Texas they are making the trek north,
> for reasons unknown. In the next couple years,
> they shall be in FFX as well.

Must be the change in the weather, forcing them to look in this area for food.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: taxpayer ()
Date: April 02, 2013 10:24AM

Lester Wrote:
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> They come out during the day because ground
> squirrels are up in the trees at night. I've see
> them stalking squirrels in the late afternoon or
> early evening.

Family member saw one carrying a squirrel. Unfortunately did not take a picture with the cell phone.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: no half-talking ()
Date: April 02, 2013 11:01AM

taxpayer Wrote:
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> Family member saw one carrying a squirrel.
> Unfortunately did not take a picture with the cell
> phone.


Please speak in complete sentences. Thanks.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 02, 2013 11:10AM

no half-talking Wrote:
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> taxpayer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Family member saw one carrying a squirrel.
> > Unfortunately did not take a picture with the
> cell
> > phone.
>
>
> Please speak in complete sentences. Thanks.
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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Lorton 1 ()
Date: April 02, 2013 12:46PM

I've seen them a couple of times crossing lorton road where the old prison dairy was. They usually look a bit mangy and thin but they are quick.
They seem to be pretty easy to spot down in Mason Neck too, according to the locals.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Now and Then ()
Date: April 02, 2013 01:12PM

Lorton 1 Wrote:
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> I've seen them a couple of times crossing lorton
> road where the old prison dairy was. They usually
> look a bit mangy and thin but they are quick.
> They seem to be pretty easy to spot down in Mason
> Neck too, according to the locals.

That's pretty close. Are there any studies as to their numbers in this area?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Sven the Squarehead ()
Date: April 03, 2013 01:49PM

Fox are a common sight & I hear them screeching throughout my neighborhood on the regular.
I have yet to spot coyotes, however, I don't know that I'd be able to tell the difference between a coyote and a full-grown male fox at night.

Anybody seen barn owls in Fairfax County?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Bill ()
Date: July 14, 2013 02:27PM

We had one in our back yard in Bristow (Prince William). It was first seen at about 5:30AM on Friday morning (12 Jul 13).

Saturday (13 Jul) he was seen twice during broad daylight in the afternoon. I think there was something wrong with it because it was nosing around in the back yard while nearby kids were making a lot of noise and people were walking within 30-40 feet of where he was.....the neighbors got two pictures of it from their deck.

We live isubdivisionsion in Bristow so it's not like we're way out in the woods all by ourselves. This Coyote exhibited no fear and didn't run away....just stood there watching before it strolled into the underbrush.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Roughbook ()
Date: July 14, 2013 11:53PM

Most definitely saw a coyote twice this Spring.
Backyard in Springfield near Lake Accotink.

Also, start a new thread.
Why continue comments on a thread started in 2010?????

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Broken Logic ()
Date: July 15, 2013 04:53AM

Bill Wrote:
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> We had one in our back yard in Bristow (Prince
> William). It was first seen at about 5:30AM on
> Friday morning (12 Jul 13).
>
> Saturday (13 Jul) he was seen twice during broad
> daylight in the afternoon. I think there was
> something wrong with it because it was nosing
> around in the back yard while nearby kids were
> making a lot of noise and people were walking
> within 30-40 feet of where he was.....the
> neighbors got two pictures of it from their deck.
>
>
> We live isubdivisionsion in Bristow so it's not
> like we're way out in the woods all by ourselves.
> This Coyote exhibited no fear and didn't run
> away....just stood there watching before it
> strolled into the underbrush.

Can you post the pictures please?

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Posted by: Jd ()
Date: May 20, 2014 11:49PM

Just ran into a large coyote on Long Pine Drive in North Springfield while walking my dog. This thing ran off making sounds I've never heard before. Screaming and howling like a crazed animal, very fast too. It then ran back and stood in the middle of the road, staring us down. Now I will carry my weapon for safety.

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Re: Coyote sightings in Fairfax county
Date: August 29, 2014 01:49PM

Fairly sure I saw a coyote on Gunston Rd. at Ft. Belvoir near the Class Six store. It was grey/tan/brown, no bushy tail, and troted like a dog. Legs were longer and head not as triangular as a fox. This was about 1845 h yesterday. Seems to have been about 20 inches at the shoulder.

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