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Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: lsz ()
Date: March 15, 2010 07:07PM

Does anybody know why the county or VDOT hasn't bothered straightening out the curve on Braddock Rd near Chandley Farm Cir? It's very dangerous and numerous accidents have occurred there over the years.

See for yourself:




The power lines go straight but the road makes a steep angle. It's like a mountain pass; one end is 50 ft higher than the other end.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: lsz ()
Date: March 15, 2010 07:10PM


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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: centreville resident ()
Date: March 15, 2010 07:19PM

We refer to it as "Rock Hill". It's not a problem as long as you SLOW DOWN.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Resident ()
Date: March 15, 2010 07:31PM

When's the last time there was a accident on the road? I live right by there and have never seen one. Actually school buses use it everyday. If it's that dangerous do you think they would put children's safety on the line?

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: March 15, 2010 07:41PM

I got hit on that section once as some idiot driver on the cell phone drove over into my lane. Fortunately they fixed the massive car-swallowing holes on each side so now you can at least avoid the other cars.

I think it has to do with the property lines around there- when the road was built some prick wouldn't give up that section of property. Maybe it has to do with the airport that used to exist around there.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Warhawk ()
Date: March 15, 2010 07:51PM

Looks like a fun curve to take at 2am, at 70mph with a cold one in hand and then get the police report of your little adventure posted here.


EDIT: I'd be interested to see a study on which area has had more accidents - this curve or the FFX Co Pkwy/Rt. 29 interchange.

__________________________________
That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2010 07:52PM by Warhawk.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: G ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:04PM

wow, a curvy road in VA, who would have imagined!

it's clearly marked 10 MPH and "SLOW" painted in big-ass letters on the roadway in both directions. so what's really dangerous, the curve in the road, or the ignorant drivers?

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: truthhurts ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:21PM

to OP: Screw you. We hate you.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Virginian ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:22PM

You are just like all the other yankee transplants that move to Fairfax County. You bitch and complain about our ways and want us to change everything to the way you want them.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: truthhurts ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:23PM

the south will rise again.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:26PM

Virginian Wrote:
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> You are just like all the other yankee transplants
> that move to Fairfax County. You bitch and
> complain about our ways and want us to change
> everything to the way you want them.


Your ways:
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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:32PM

truthhurts Wrote:
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> the south will rise again.
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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: centrevillegirl ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:36PM

There are accidents there all the time. I know someone that lives close by and can attest to that. Also, the rocks stick out pretty close to the road. I know at least three people that have popped a tire on the rocks on the right as you go down the hill heading east. That part of the road is slated to run toward the dog park on Lee Road which would eliminate the curve. I don't know what the hold up is. It's definitely more than your average curve in the road.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Virginian ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:43PM

496 Wrote:
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> Virginian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are just like all the other yankee
> transplants
> > that move to Fairfax County. You bitch and
> > complain about our ways and want us to change
> > everything to the way you want them.
>
>
> Your ways:


Fuck you, carpetbagger.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Elle Diabla ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:52PM

lsz Wrote:
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> Does anybody know why the county or VDOT hasn't
> bothered straightening out the curve on Braddock
> Rd near Chandley Farm Cir? It's very dangerous and
> numerous accidents have occurred there over the
> years.
>
> See for yourself:
> http://i40.tinypic.com/263zp8g.jpg
>
> http://i43.tinypic.com/14izf4l.jpg
>
> The power lines go straight but the road makes a
> steep angle. It's like a mountain pass; one end is
> 50 ft higher than the other end.


Oh dear Lord, shut up!

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: betterdriverthanyou ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:53PM

I love the rocks sticking out by the edge of the road. That makes the starbucks holding/cell phone blabbing/soccer mommies pay attention a little better.

The airport was up at the corner of Pleasant valley, don't think it had anything to do with that.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: cool ()
Date: March 15, 2010 09:01PM

When was this airport around? What was it called?

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Kurtis ()
Date: March 15, 2010 09:10PM

cool Wrote:
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> When was this airport around? What was it called?


Centreville airport. It closed in the late 70's


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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: boredom ()
Date: March 15, 2010 09:22PM

I'd hardly call it a deadly curve. Just drive like a normal human being and you'll be fine.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: coxfarmhand ()
Date: March 15, 2010 09:23PM

Kurtis Wrote:
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> cool Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When was this airport around? What was it
> called?
>
>
> Centreville airport. It closed in the late 70's
>
>
> ,
It was a private airport
see link

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/VA/Airfields_VA_Fairfax_W.htm#centreville

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: centreville ()
Date: March 15, 2010 09:25PM

I was just reading about the airport online. It wasn't an airport, it was just 2 grass runways owned by a private citizen. They were there until 2003 when they built a housing development. Centreville was listed as an active airfield until 2006. Are the orange balls still on the powerlines there?

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/VA/Airfields_VA_Fairfax_W.htm#centreville

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: March 15, 2010 09:29PM

a) The curve is not dangerous - I have negotiated that curve to and from work every day for the last 5 years and have never witnessed a single accident. Not only the last 5 years but I have occasionally used that stretch of Braddock Road for over 20 years - never have witnessed an accident. Twice I've seen an 53' tractor trailer get beached on the turn...
b) Some nice info on the airport here:
http://www.members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/VA/Airfields_VA_Fairfax_W.htm#centreville

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: JK ()
Date: March 15, 2010 09:32PM

lsz Wrote:
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> Does anybody know why the county or VDOT hasn't
> bothered straightening out the curve on Braddock
> Rd near Chandley Farm Cir?

I remember when that was a dirt road.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Huntington ()
Date: March 15, 2010 09:33PM

That is nothing compared to what Hooes Rd was like between Backlick and Sydenstricker before the Parkway went in. A one-lane bridge, a wooden bridge, and some crazy turns going downhill/ uphill. Ahhhh, lovely memories of school bus rides...

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: JK ()
Date: March 15, 2010 09:41PM

Huntington Wrote:
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> That is nothing compared to what Hooes Rd was like
> between Backlick and Sydenstricker before the
> Parkway went in. A one-lane bridge, a wooden
> bridge, and some crazy turns going downhill/
> uphill. Ahhhh, lovely memories of school bus
> rides...


I remember that too, and pohick road was a fun twisty road before 7100 was built.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: G ()
Date: March 15, 2010 09:58PM

some info on the Braddock Road curve can be found here starting around pg. 49
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/comprehensiveplan/area3/bullrun.pdf
and in other documents regarding the development of Quinn Farm/Rock Hill District Park recreation area. apparently the plan is to widen Braddock Rd to 4 lanes, and realign Old Lee Rd thru the park such that it eliminates that curve.

but why it's there in the first place may be a 200+ year old mystery.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: virginia ()
Date: March 15, 2010 10:13PM

Robert e lee himself made the road as to cause accidents to kill the northern transplants as they came into centreville

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: born n raised in centreville ()
Date: March 15, 2010 10:18PM

virginia Wrote:
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> Robert e lee himself made the road as to cause
> accidents to kill the northern transplants as they
> came into centreville


This.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: G ()
Date: March 15, 2010 10:24PM

http://hickoryfarms.org/History%20of%20Hickory%20Farms%20-%20Braddock%20District.htm

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About General Braddock and His Road



To trace the history of Braddock Road, project yourself back before Captain John Smith sailed up the Potomac River in 1608 with a small party of English explorers. Indian villages lay along the waterways within what were later to become the boundaries of Fairfax County. Reminders of these native inhabitants linger today in names like Pohick, Accotink and Occoquan. Watercourses served as highways in those times. While "roads" were very few in those early days, precursors to Braddock Road can be identified on most of the earliest maps. A map drawn between 1745 and 1748 shows an old Indian trail following the general path of the present-day Braddock Road. On old maps throughout the 1700's, the road is identified as "Alexandria Road" and "Mountain Road". This road, later to be called Braddock's Road, was incorporated in the year 1752, according to the minutes of the 1752 Fairfax courthouse (Truro Vestry Book).



The road received its name during the French and Indian War when English General Edward Braddock led British and colonial troops in a disastrous expedition against the French Fort Duquesne, Con the site of the present city of Pittsburgh). In the year 1755, General Braddock accompanied military units departing from the city of Alexandria to Winchester, Virginia and then on to Fort Duquesne. Historical accounts differ as to whether General Braddock's forces indeed used the route of the present day Braddock Road, or if they used instead the "Middle Turnpike" (now Route 7).



Besides his British troops, nearly 500 Virginians were with Braddock when he started on the march, but he did not care much for these, nor for the help of the Indians. He knew nothing about fighting in the woods and thought his trained troops were worth more than any others. On July 9,1755 General Braddock's army was met near Fort Duquesne by a party of Canadians and Indians under Captain Beaujeau. The British fought bravely, but could not see anybody to shoot at, for the Canadians and Indians fought from behind trees, while the British stood in the narrow road, their bright coats excellent targets. The Virginians fought from behind trees and logs, preventing a total massacre, but Braddock would not allow his soldiers to protect themselves. They stood as if on parade. At last General Braddock himself was wounded and died within a few hours. His aide, George Washington, led away what was left of the little army.



A legend tells of General Braddock's remains being buried (and later discovered by road crews) in the middle of "his" road. Another legend tells of a cannon full of gold being buried along Braddock Road when General Braddock's troops became mired in mud as they traveled through Fairfax County on their way to Ft. Duquesne.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: hmmm ()
Date: March 15, 2010 10:28PM

G Wrote:
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> some info on the Braddock Road curve can be found
> here starting around pg. 49
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/comprehensiveplan
> /area3/bullrun.pdf
> and in other documents regarding the development
> of Quinn Farm/Rock Hill District Park recreation
> area. apparently the plan is to widen Braddock Rd
> to 4 lanes, and realign Old Lee Rd thru the park
> such that it eliminates that curve.
>
> but why it's there in the first place may be a
> 200+ year old mystery.


Damn, look at page 59, they are widening 28 to 10 lanes.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: G ()
Date: March 15, 2010 10:55PM

it just dawned on me, maybe the road was simply built that way to act as sort of a switchback. there's a 70 ft elevation difference between the bottom & top of the hill which would be a hard to climb or stop if it were a straight shot.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: G? ()
Date: March 15, 2010 11:13PM

G Wrote:
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> -----
> About General Braddock and His Road
>
>
> The road received its name during the French and
> Indian War when English General Edward Braddock
> led British and colonial troops in a disastrous
> expedition against the French Fort Duquesne,


Why name a major road after a failed general?

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: G ()
Date: March 16, 2010 12:30AM

G? Wrote:
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> Why name a major road after a failed general?

That's nothing, look up the story of Prince William.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: carp ()
Date: March 16, 2010 05:43AM

Quit whining. If you don't see the "SLOW" sign from far away, you're blind. It's a whole 2 feet away from the curve itself. That's PLENTY of time to slow down from 45.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: DeadMan ()
Date: March 16, 2010 07:03AM

We refer to it as "Rock Hill"

No we dont. Speak for yourself you non-local. Everyone I've ever known calls it 'dead man's curve' I've lived in sully station damn near two decades and have NEVER heard it been called 'rock hill'

I drive on that thing very often and have never witnessed any accident there. just be careful

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: rockhill ()
Date: March 16, 2010 10:08AM

DeadMan Wrote:
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> We refer to it as "Rock Hill"
>
> No we dont. Speak for yourself you non-local.
> Everyone I've ever known calls it 'dead man's
> curve' I've lived in sully station damn near two
> decades and have NEVER heard it been called 'rock
> hill'
>
> I drive on that thing very often and have never
> witnessed any accident there. just be careful



Who the fuck are you calling a non-local? I have lived in the same house in Sully Station for my entire life (20 years). The Fairfax County Bus Drivers refer to it as "Rock Hill".

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: that's nothing ()
Date: March 16, 2010 10:09AM

You want to see a really steep hill? Check out Cherokee Ave. near Little River Turnpike in the Alexandria/Annandale area. That thing is a monster. Probably close to 100 ft.+ in elevation.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: rockhill ()
Date: March 16, 2010 10:23AM

DeadMan Wrote:
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> We refer to it as "Rock Hill"
>
> No we dont. Speak for yourself you non-local.
> Everyone I've ever known calls it 'dead man's
> curve' I've lived in sully station damn near two
> decades and have NEVER heard it been called 'rock
> hill'
>
> I drive on that thing very often and have never
> witnessed any accident there. just be careful


Oh, and by the way, "Dead Man's Curve" is what us real locals call the curve in Clifton.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: rockhill ()
Date: March 16, 2010 10:24AM


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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 16, 2010 12:24PM

The curve is not dangerous if you don't drive like an idiot. Like others said the speed limit is well marked. If you take it at anything more than the recommended speed you are an idiot. Welcome to life that roads exist that aren't eight lanes wide in a nice, flat, straight direction.


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Does anybody know why the county or VDOT hasn't bothered straightening out the curve on Braddock Rd near Chandley Farm Cir

Why don't YOU do it?

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 16, 2010 01:16PM

Virginian Wrote:
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> You are just like all the other yankee transplants
> that move to Fairfax County. You bitch and
> complain about our ways and want us to change
> everything to the way you want them.



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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Virginian ()
Date: March 16, 2010 02:04PM

LOL, I've seen that commercial before. But what I said is not racist. There are a lot of WHITE yankee transplants that move here from NY & NJ.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: bdimag ()
Date: March 16, 2010 02:12PM

funny movie... and definitely one of the milder commercials.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: glenn ()
Date: March 16, 2010 03:07PM

Damn yankee communists! GLENN BECK <3

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: teaparty ()
Date: March 16, 2010 03:12PM

glenn Wrote:
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> Damn yankee communists! GLENN BECK <3



I love Glenn Beck, but he is a Yankee. So are most of those at Fox News. They are in NY.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Beck ()
Date: March 16, 2010 03:14PM

Glenn Beck = Ad Hominem

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Kurtis ()
Date: March 16, 2010 05:31PM

DeadMan Wrote:
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> We refer to it as "Rock Hill"
>
> No we dont. Speak for yourself you non-local.
> Everyone I've ever known calls it 'dead man's
> curve' I've lived in sully station damn near two
> decades and have NEVER heard it been called 'rock
> hill'
>
> I drive on that thing very often and have never
> witnessed any accident there. just be careful


Two decades ? welcome to town Newbie!


Always has been Rock hill as far back as the late 60's

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: March 16, 2010 06:44PM

Virginian Wrote:
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> You are just like all the other yankee transplants
> that move to Fairfax County. You bitch and
> complain about our ways and want us to change
> everything to the way you want them.


you missing this?
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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Scott ()
Date: March 16, 2010 08:34PM

I drive that curve just about every day in my school bus and have never had a problem. It is is fun though when you meet another bus. There's also Beech Mill Road in Great Falls -- a wall on one side and a cliff on the other.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 16, 2010 09:00PM

Gravis Wrote:
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>
>
> you missing this?


lol

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: March 16, 2010 10:04PM

JK Wrote:
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> Huntington Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That is nothing compared to what Hooes Rd was
> like
> > between Backlick and Sydenstricker before the
> > Parkway went in. A one-lane bridge, a wooden
> > bridge, and some crazy turns going downhill/
> > uphill. Ahhhh, lovely memories of school bus
> > rides...
>
>
> I remember that too, and pohick road was a fun
> twisty road before 7100 was built.


I remember taking pohick before it was re-aligned. There was that huge cliff on the side and no guard rail. I hated driving it,

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: waah!!! ()
Date: March 16, 2010 10:10PM

Virginian Wrote:
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> You are just like all the other yankee transplants
> that move to Fairfax County. You bitch and
> complain about our ways and want us to change
> everything to the way you want them.
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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: March 16, 2010 11:07PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> Virginian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are just like all the other yankee
> transplants
> > that move to Fairfax County. You bitch and
> > complain about our ways and want us to change
> > everything to the way you want them.
>
>
> you missing this?


LOL

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: March 16, 2010 11:45PM

Actually this particular ridge is called Rock Hill. Little known trivia for you all.

In the aftermath of the Union Army retreat from the Second Battle of Bull Run this very Rock Hill played a minor role in the following days. On the morning of September 1, 1862 from about 6am to 3pm the V Corps of Maj. Gen. Fitz John Porter manned outposts on Braddock Road at Flatlick Run and on Rock Hill. His patrols observed Confederate forces moving east on Route 50 (then Little River Turnpike) toward Fairfax. This observation was one of many tip-offs of the Confederate attempt to put their army between the Union army at Centreville and the defenses of Washington, DC. The Battle of Chantilly (Ox Hill) was fought later that afternoon.

Quoting from Gen. Porter's messages to Hdqrs:

"I have now outposts on the road to Gum Spring [i.e. Braddock Road @ Rock Hill], and shall locate my grand guard on that road at a suitable position this side of Flat Lick Run." Sept 1, 1863 - 6:30 a.m.

"My pickets [i.e. on Rock Hill] 'report the enemy' are coming down the Little River turnpike." Sept. 1 - ~ 2-3:00 p.m.

The Fairfax County Park Authority really should put some type of historical marker at the Quinn Farm Park to publicize the history of this hill.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Deadmann ()
Date: March 17, 2010 03:51AM

I absolutely refuse to call it rock hill. thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard. everyone in sully station calls is dead mans curve. I even took a poll today of people that live here and rock hill got ZERO votes. get with the times, old people.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: sdfs ()
Date: March 17, 2010 05:53AM

So they were able to see Route 50 from Braddock? Damn. There's so many trees in the way now that I can't imagine that.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 17, 2010 07:17AM

Deadmann Wrote:
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> I even took a
> poll today of people that live here and rock hill
> got ZERO votes. get with the times, old people.

Life. Find one.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: huh ()
Date: March 17, 2010 08:03AM

Deadmann Wrote:
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> I absolutely refuse to call it rock hill. thats
> the dumbest shit ive ever heard. everyone in sully
> station calls is dead mans curve. I even took a
> poll today of people that live here and rock hill
> got ZERO votes. get with the times, old people.


Well I am 20 and live in Sully Station and call it Rock Hill.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 17, 2010 08:22AM

I drive through there occasionally and will also begin calling it Rock Hill, firmly rejecting Dead Man's Curve. That is an old, totally non-creative name for it. There is probably some area called Dead Man's Curve somewhere in every thousand square miles of this country, it is totally overdone.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 17, 2010 08:28AM

pgens Wrote:
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> I drive through there occasionally and will also
> begin calling it Rock Hill, firmly rejecting Dead
> Man's Curve. That is an old, totally non-creative
> name for it. There is probably some area called
> Dead Man's Curve somewhere in every thousand
> square miles of this country, it is totally
> overdone.

The "real" Dead Man's Curve is in Los Angeles, I've driven on it.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 17, 2010 09:17AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> The "real" Dead Man's Curve is in Los Angeles,
> I've driven on it.

Is there a burning cross on that one too?

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 17, 2010 09:22AM

pgens Wrote:
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> Is there a burning cross on that one too?

The curve is on Sunset Blvd near Beverly Hills, the place is crawling with Klansmen.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: March 17, 2010 09:24AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> pgens Wrote:
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> >
> > Is there a burning cross on that one too?
>
> The curve is on Sunset Blvd near Beverly Hills,
> the place is crawling with Klansmen.

Did they, or did they not, take kindly to your type 'round those parts?

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Good 'ole Boyz ()
Date: March 17, 2010 09:26AM

I take it you don't like Klansmen?
So you're prejudice?

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: same here ()
Date: March 17, 2010 10:36AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> pgens Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I drive through there occasionally and will
> also
> > begin calling it Rock Hill, firmly rejecting
> Dead
> > Man's Curve. That is an old, totally
> non-creative
> > name for it. There is probably some area
> called
> > Dead Man's Curve somewhere in every thousand
> > square miles of this country, it is totally
> > overdone.
>
> The "real" Dead Man's Curve is in Los Angeles,
> I've driven on it.

Yep, it's a hairpin turn about halfway up Mulholland Drive. It's narrow as hell and if you miss the turn (as many have done), you plunge straight down the canyon to a fiery death.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: jhey ()
Date: March 17, 2010 10:47AM

huh Wrote:
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> Well I am 20 and live in Sully Station and call it
> Rock Hill.

Well I'm from Utica, and I never heard anyone use the phrase "steamed hams."

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 17, 2010 10:48AM

same here Wrote:
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>
> Yep, it's a hairpin turn about halfway up
> Mulholland Drive. It's narrow as hell


No, it's on Sunset near the UCLA campus. It's a sharp turn on 4 lanes going down hill, and the road surface is sort of angled in the opposite direction.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=34.076994,-118.45334&spn=0,359.994335&z=18&layer=c&cbll=34.076926,-118.453423&panoid=saV656ttuNBcS-bVQmrXSg&cbp=12,281.57,,0,2.02

It's where the dude from Jan & Dean crashed his car and almost died. Hence their famous song, "Dead Man's Curve".

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: curve appeal ()
Date: March 17, 2010 03:36PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> same here Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Yep, it's a hairpin turn about halfway up
> > Mulholland Drive. It's narrow as hell
>
>
> No, it's on Sunset near the UCLA campus. It's a
> sharp turn on 4 lanes going down hill, and the
> road surface is sort of angled in the opposite
> direction.
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=34.07
> 6994,-118.45334&spn=0,359.994335&z=18&layer=c&cbll
> =34.076926,-118.453423&panoid=saV656ttuNBcS-bVQmrX
> Sg&cbp=12,281.57,,0,2.02
>
> It's where the dude from Jan & Dean crashed his
> car and almost died. Hence their famous song,
> "Dead Man's Curve".

http://ghostswanted.blogspot.com/2009/11/episode-15-dead-mans-curve.html

Quote :

Although the Jan and Dean song "Dead Man's Curve" is based on a section of Sunset Blvd. (near UCLA), Mulholland Drive is the street that comes to mind to most locals when the term "Dead Man's Curve" is used in conversation, due to its hair-pin turn that has claimed many lives. The majority of "curve related" deaths occured back in the days of illegal street racing along this stretch of highway (between Laurel Canyon and Coldwater Canyon) as seen in the the movie "King of the Mountain."

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 17, 2010 08:35PM

curve appeal Wrote:
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>
> Although the Jan and Dean song "Dead Man's Curve" is based on a section of Sunset Blvd. (near UCLA), Mulholland Drive is the street that comes to mind to most locals when the term "Dead Man's Curve"

Only been up there once a long time ago but remember all the roads in those hills being very windy. Will have to run this by my friends out there to see if they ever heard of this.

I bet there's a local LA forum where people are arguing about the real "Dead Man's Curve". And some of them still call it "Rock Hill".

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: March 17, 2010 11:25PM

Anyone want to know WHY it is called Rock Hill? Take a walk through the woods on the ridge beyond the dog park and "semi-soccer fields" (stay on park property of course). The entire hilltop and side slopes are covered with BOULDERS and ROCK outcroppings.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Wrote ()
Date: March 17, 2010 11:33PM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Anyone want to know WHY it is called Rock Hill?
> Take a walk through the woods on the ridge beyond
> the dog park and "semi-soccer fields" (stay on
> park property of course). The entire hilltop and
> side slopes are covered with BOULDERS and ROCK
> outcroppings.

Good observation. Now find out the real reason by reading some fucking history, you arrogant twit.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 18, 2010 08:11AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Anyone want to know WHY it is called Rock Hill?


Because if you can take the entire thing at over fifty without braking you ROCK.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Elle Diabla ()
Date: March 18, 2010 10:17AM

DO NOT ANGER MR. ROAD CURVE!!!
Attachments:
angrycurveguy.jpg

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 18, 2010 12:49PM

We call it the Deadly Owl Beak Deadly Curve of Death.
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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: March 18, 2010 02:56PM

Elle Diabla Wrote:
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> DO NOT ANGER MR. ROAD CURVE!!!


file.php?2,file=3517

i approve of the originality


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/18/2010 02:57PM by Gravis.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Elle Diabla ()
Date: March 18, 2010 09:21PM

<3

Anger face shows up when least expected.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: rock hill doesnt exist ()
Date: April 13, 2010 02:22AM

wow the the fact that anyone believes its called 'rock hill' makes me sick to my stomach. 100% of anyone I have ever known calls it 'dead man's curve". Hey, guy that calls it 'rock hill', you're an idiot.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Who died? ()
Date: April 13, 2010 06:43AM

So who has died there to give it the nickname dead mans curve?

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Retard ()
Date: April 13, 2010 02:52PM

A 1984 topographic map depicts the point of interest as "Rock Hill."

That's about as close to an official nickname as there is.
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rhh.jpg

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Warhawk ()
Date: April 13, 2010 03:17PM

The US Geological Survey has the US Board of Geographic Names whose sole purpose is to catalog and grant official names for places/things along with variants of that name (misspellings or other aliases). You can go here:

http://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/index.html

and search "Rock Hill" for Fairfax County and this does NOT show up. Therefore Rock Hill is not an official name or an official variant of this hill. Just because it's on the topo map doesn't make it official. Nor does the lack of "Rock Hill" in the database make it unofficial. There's many, many places and features that still need to be cataloged. I spent two years there cross referencing databases along with topo maps and other resources. It's fucking endless.

If you really want to press it, you could petition that board to make an official judgement on it...but that's probably too much effort for people here. It's easier to call each other retarded.

__________________________________
That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: April 13, 2010 04:09PM

Rock Hill or not, we know it isn't "Dead Man's Curve" because that is too dumb and overused.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: G ()
Date: April 13, 2010 11:02PM

the County has started calling the planned recreation area there Rock Hill District Park...
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/parks/plandev/mparchives.htm#Q

During the Civil War, and more specifically during
the battle of Ox Hill, a rocky outcropping known as
“Rock Hill” located just north of Braddock Road in
this parcel was used as an observation outpost by
Union Forces.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: KnowsHowToDrive ()
Date: April 13, 2010 11:40PM

Good drivers in cars that can handle decently enjoy curves in the road.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Rocky Outcrop ()
Date: April 14, 2010 11:58AM

except Sara Miller.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: August 02, 2010 08:45PM

From ADC Northern Virgina Street Map
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rockhill.adc.jpg

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Whatever2444 ()
Date: August 04, 2010 10:37AM

Yes, I've found another road to practice my awesome rally skills on now. WOOO!

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Snapple ()
Date: August 04, 2010 12:28PM

Whatever2444 Wrote:
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> Yes, I've found another road to practice my
> awesome rally skills on now. WOOO!

Right 3 don't cut, left 2 minus into right 3 plus into small crest



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/2010 12:35PM by Snapple.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Juxtaposition ()
Date: August 04, 2010 12:32PM

LOL

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Rambunctious ()
Date: August 04, 2010 11:20PM

centreville Wrote:
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> I was just reading about the airport online. It
> wasn't an airport, it was just 2 grass runways
> owned by a private citizen. They were there until
> 2003 when they built a housing development.
> Centreville was listed as an active airfield until
> 2006. Are the orange balls still on the
> powerlines there?
>
> http://www.airfields-freeman.com/VA/Airfields_VA_F
> airfax_W.htm#centreville


Interesting read.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Rambunctious ()
Date: August 04, 2010 11:25PM

pgens Wrote:
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> Rock Hill or not, we know it isn't "Dead Man's
> Curve" because that is too dumb and overused.


Truth.

I'll always remember Hooes Road in Springfield ... not sure if anyone actually died there, but I know several that slid off the road due to ice. (cuz back in the day the wouldn't close schools unless there was a ton of snow on the ground)

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: September 06, 2010 01:05PM

Who died? Wrote:
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> So who has died there to give it the nickname dead
> mans curve?

I'm surprised no one has posted about this yet, dead man's curve is internationally famous now!!!1!!!11!!!1!!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1309179/Driver-sliced-half-horrific-100mph-crash-drag-race-dead-mans-curve.html

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: December 28, 2015 11:53PM

Any updates?

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Dead mans ()
Date: December 29, 2015 07:52AM

DeadMan Wrote:
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> We refer to it as "Rock Hill"
>
> No we dont. Speak for yourself you non-local.
> Everyone I've ever known calls it 'dead man's
> curve' I've lived in sully station damn near two
> decades and have NEVER heard it been called 'rock
> hill'
>
> I drive on that thing very often and have never
> witnessed any accident there. just be careful

thank you.... I was reading the page just to see if someone was going to call this dummie out. I lived in Centreville for 25 years and that turn has been known as "dead mans curve" before then....

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: wronngggg ()
Date: December 29, 2015 07:56AM

I have never heard someone call this section Rock Hill. Always known as Dead Mans curve...Maybe us late 70's early 80's babies changed the name along the way. I lived in Centreville until I graduated college then moved to PWC.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: February 17, 2017 04:50PM

wronngggg Wrote:
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> I have never heard someone call this section Rock
> Hill. Always known as Dead Mans curve...Maybe us
> late 70's early 80's babies changed the name along
> the way. I lived in Centreville until I graduated
> college then moved to PWC.

I've seen the name many times on those ADC street maps, but that was back in the day.

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Re: Deadly Curve on Braddock Rd
Posted by: George Glass ()
Date: February 20, 2017 08:58PM

It's ROCK HILL.

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