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Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
SumMo
()
Date: September 15, 2019 09:44AM
Why didn't the dems tell us about this?
Virginia House of Delegates Speaker Kirk Cox, House Commerce and Labor Committee Chairman Terry Kilgore, and House of Delegates candidates Mary Margaret Kastleberg (R-Henrico) and D.J. Jordan (R-Prince William), held a press conference call today to discuss Virginia Democrats’ support for an energy tax scheme the SCC says will raise Virginians power bills by $144, or 10 percent, per year.
“A true fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats in this cycle is that Republicans support policies that will make sure energy stays affordable, while Democrats support policies that will lead to higher power bills,” said Speaker Cox. “The SCC has stated that this energy tax scheme known as RGGI would raise electric bills for residential customers by up to $144 per year, or a 10% increase on the average bill.”
“This is a fundamental difference between the two parties,” said House Commerce and Labor Chairman Terry Kilgore (R-Gate City). “This energy tax scheme known as RGGI would not only raise electric bills for residential customers, but will also close power plants costing us jobs. Virginia Democrats tried to force Virginia into this program unilaterally earlier this year and Virginia Republicans were the only thing standing between higher electric bills and our constituents. We are going to continue to support policies that ensure electricity is affordable for Virginia families.”
Virginia House of Delegates Speaker Kirk Cox, House Commerce and Labor Committee Chairman Terry Kilgore, and House of Delegates candidates Mary Margaret Kastleberg (R-Henrico) and D.J. Jordan (R-Prince William), held a press conference call today to discuss Virginia Democrats’ support for an energy tax scheme the SCC says will raise Virginians power bills by $144, or 10 percent, per year.
“A true fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats in this cycle is that Republicans support policies that will make sure energy stays affordable, while Democrats support policies that will lead to higher power bills,” said Speaker Cox. “The SCC has stated that this energy tax scheme known as RGGI would raise electric bills for residential customers by up to $144 per year, or a 10% increase on the average bill.”
“This is a fundamental difference between the two parties,” said House Commerce and Labor Chairman Terry Kilgore (R-Gate City). “This energy tax scheme known as RGGI would not only raise electric bills for residential customers, but will also close power plants costing us jobs. Virginia Democrats tried to force Virginia into this program unilaterally earlier this year and Virginia Republicans were the only thing standing between higher electric bills and our constituents. We are going to continue to support policies that ensure electricity is affordable for Virginia families.”
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
money well spent.
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Date: September 15, 2019 09:58AM
The RGGI will result in lower energy costs in the long run. The longer Republicans block the RGGI the worse things are going to be for all Virginians.
Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, and Vermont are already on board and Virginia needs to be there too.
Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, and Vermont are already on board and Virginia needs to be there too.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
SumMo
()
Date: September 15, 2019 10:07AM
The claim that RGGI will lower energy costs are made by the same people who said you could keep your doctor, that you would save $2500/year in healthcare premiums, that health care costs would go down, etc. They lie their asses off to get what they want and leave us to pay for the mess. Those states are high tax states and the dems in VA want to join them so they have more power and control. If green is less costly, you won't need any laws to get Dominion, etc to adopt it. They'll do it out of greed. The fact that dems want to force it shows that they don't really believe it will work either.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
Democrat scoundrels
()
Date: September 15, 2019 10:12AM
Very true... have you seen your homeowners and auto insurance also the last couple of years?
Thanks to the Virginia Bureau of Insurance.
Thanks to the Virginia Bureau of Insurance.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
GETP
()
Date: September 15, 2019 10:14AM
Oh boy! An "energy tax scheme".
You know you're about to get
You know you're about to get
fucked in the ass
when you hear that term.Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: September 15, 2019 11:13AM
money well spent. Wrote:
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> The RGGI will result in lower energy costs in the
> long run. The longer Republicans block the RGGI
> the worse things are going to be for all
> Virginians.
> Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland,
> Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New
> York, Rhode Island, and Vermont are already on
> board and Virginia needs to be there too.
Just how will this "enlightened" idea lower energy costs in the long run? I've got a hunch that your answer will tell us much about your knowledge of the subject and you too!!!
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> The RGGI will result in lower energy costs in the
> long run. The longer Republicans block the RGGI
> the worse things are going to be for all
> Virginians.
> Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland,
> Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New
> York, Rhode Island, and Vermont are already on
> board and Virginia needs to be there too.
Just how will this "enlightened" idea lower energy costs in the long run? I've got a hunch that your answer will tell us much about your knowledge of the subject and you too!!!
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
Dominion power customer.
()
Date: September 15, 2019 12:53PM
For those who have followed RGGI over the last decade, this latest confirmation of the program’s success comes as no surprise. Previous assessments by the Analysis Group and others of RGGI’s earlier years similarly have concluded that RGGI has delivered on its promise of both economic and environmental progress.
https://www.nrdc.org/experts/bruce-ho/rggi-shows-tackling-climate-change-pays-major-dividends
https://www.nrdc.org/experts/bruce-ho/rggi-shows-tackling-climate-change-pays-major-dividends
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
SumMo
()
Date: September 15, 2019 01:18PM
Dominion power customer. Wrote:
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> For those who have followed RGGI over the last
> decade, this latest confirmation of the
> program’s success comes as no surprise. Previous
> assessments by the Analysis Group and others of
> RGGI’s earlier years similarly have concluded
> that RGGI has delivered on its promise of both
> economic and environmental progress.
>
> https://www.nrdc.org/experts/bruce-ho/rggi-shows-t
> ackling-climate-change-pays-major-dividends
Using a far left group as your source of 'facts' is like asking the tobacco companies if smoking is a health risk. And the one you chose had a sketchy reputation at best:
NRDC was behind the 1989 Alar scandal in which a root-applied ripening agent with the brand name of Alar was characterized as a toxic “spray” applied directly on apples, which caused a panic and disaster for the apple market. The NRDC attack is documented in Andrea Arnold’s Fear of Food: Environmentalist Scams, Media Mendacity, and the Law of Disparagement. The Introduction by U.S. Senator Steve Symms noted that apple growers lost some $250 million as a result of the campaign, with many smaller growers forced to close down. NRDC’s attack was managed by a notorious far-left public relations expert, David Fenton. According to an internal memo he wrote as a promotional for his services and later published in the Wall Street Journal (“How a PR firm executed the Alar scare” October 3, 1989, p. A22), “We designed [the anti-Alar campaign] so that revenue would flow back to the Natural Resources Defense Council from the public, and we sold a book about pesticides through a 900 number and the Donahue Show. And to date there has been $700,000 in net revenue from it.”
As I said before, if this idea is so good and saves so much money, you don't need a law; simple greed will make the utility companies adopt it. That you need a law shows it won't work as you say it will.
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> For those who have followed RGGI over the last
> decade, this latest confirmation of the
> program’s success comes as no surprise. Previous
> assessments by the Analysis Group and others of
> RGGI’s earlier years similarly have concluded
> that RGGI has delivered on its promise of both
> economic and environmental progress.
>
> https://www.nrdc.org/experts/bruce-ho/rggi-shows-t
> ackling-climate-change-pays-major-dividends
Using a far left group as your source of 'facts' is like asking the tobacco companies if smoking is a health risk. And the one you chose had a sketchy reputation at best:
NRDC was behind the 1989 Alar scandal in which a root-applied ripening agent with the brand name of Alar was characterized as a toxic “spray” applied directly on apples, which caused a panic and disaster for the apple market. The NRDC attack is documented in Andrea Arnold’s Fear of Food: Environmentalist Scams, Media Mendacity, and the Law of Disparagement. The Introduction by U.S. Senator Steve Symms noted that apple growers lost some $250 million as a result of the campaign, with many smaller growers forced to close down. NRDC’s attack was managed by a notorious far-left public relations expert, David Fenton. According to an internal memo he wrote as a promotional for his services and later published in the Wall Street Journal (“How a PR firm executed the Alar scare” October 3, 1989, p. A22), “We designed [the anti-Alar campaign] so that revenue would flow back to the Natural Resources Defense Council from the public, and we sold a book about pesticides through a 900 number and the Donahue Show. And to date there has been $700,000 in net revenue from it.”
As I said before, if this idea is so good and saves so much money, you don't need a law; simple greed will make the utility companies adopt it. That you need a law shows it won't work as you say it will.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
cargo hold
()
Date: September 15, 2019 01:24PM
Dominion power customer. Wrote:
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> For those who have followed RGGI over the last
> decade, this latest confirmation of the
> program’s success comes as no surprise. Previous
> assessments by the Analysis Group and others of
> RGGI’s earlier years similarly have concluded
> that RGGI has delivered on its promise of both
> economic and environmental progress.
>
> https://www.nrdc.org/experts/bruce-ho/rggi-shows-t
> ackling-climate-change-pays-major-dividends
RGGI is a great program. Really anything that conservatards are against is generally a good idea. Nobody is forced to buy electricity so if they don't like the price they should not buy it.
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> For those who have followed RGGI over the last
> decade, this latest confirmation of the
> program’s success comes as no surprise. Previous
> assessments by the Analysis Group and others of
> RGGI’s earlier years similarly have concluded
> that RGGI has delivered on its promise of both
> economic and environmental progress.
>
> https://www.nrdc.org/experts/bruce-ho/rggi-shows-t
> ackling-climate-change-pays-major-dividends
RGGI is a great program. Really anything that conservatards are against is generally a good idea. Nobody is forced to buy electricity so if they don't like the price they should not buy it.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
osdfkjf
()
Date: September 15, 2019 04:18PM
first week democrats were in office 1 nuclear reactor went off-line due to "problems"
that same week NY, who'd been refusing to buy uranium for an offline reactor (it was a news item) WENT ONLINE
they didn't only steal tobacco money they stole uranium too, NYC
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: September 15, 2019 09:21PM
cargo hold Wrote:
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> Dominion power customer. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For those who have followed RGGI over the last
> > decade, this latest confirmation of the
> > program’s success comes as no surprise.
> Previous
> > assessments by the Analysis Group and others of
> > RGGI’s earlier years similarly have concluded
> > that RGGI has delivered on its promise of both
> > economic and environmental progress.
> >
> >
> https://www.nrdc.org/experts/bruce-ho/rggi-shows-t
>
> > ackling-climate-change-pays-major-dividends
>
>
> RGGI is a great program. Really anything that
> conservatards are against is generally a good
> idea. Nobody is forced to buy electricity so if
> they don't like the price they should not buy it.
There is some truth in your RGGI claims. It will increase the cost of electricity by 10 percent, maybe more as Obama explained by saying his plan "necessarily causes the cost of electricity to explode." Beyond that, it appears that the cost increase of electricity in Virginia would not result in a reduction of GHG emissions in Virginia but would improve the emissions in other areas of the program area at Virginians expense. If you are a resident in NY or New England it is a great deal. For Virginia, not so much.
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> Dominion power customer. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For those who have followed RGGI over the last
> > decade, this latest confirmation of the
> > program’s success comes as no surprise.
> Previous
> > assessments by the Analysis Group and others of
> > RGGI’s earlier years similarly have concluded
> > that RGGI has delivered on its promise of both
> > economic and environmental progress.
> >
> >
> https://www.nrdc.org/experts/bruce-ho/rggi-shows-t
>
> > ackling-climate-change-pays-major-dividends
>
>
> RGGI is a great program. Really anything that
> conservatards are against is generally a good
> idea. Nobody is forced to buy electricity so if
> they don't like the price they should not buy it.
There is some truth in your RGGI claims. It will increase the cost of electricity by 10 percent, maybe more as Obama explained by saying his plan "necessarily causes the cost of electricity to explode." Beyond that, it appears that the cost increase of electricity in Virginia would not result in a reduction of GHG emissions in Virginia but would improve the emissions in other areas of the program area at Virginians expense. If you are a resident in NY or New England it is a great deal. For Virginia, not so much.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
Boo fn hoo
()
Date: September 15, 2019 09:36PM
Climate change is a lie...it does not exist...the elites made this up to scare you.
I don’t want to join the sbove libtard states..no to rggi or rigatoni or whatever
I don’t want to join the sbove libtard states..no to rggi or rigatoni or whatever
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
UBBWN
()
Date: September 16, 2019 04:11AM
Democrat scoundrels Wrote:
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> Very true... have you seen your homeowners and
> auto insurance also the last couple of years?
>
> Thanks to the Virginia Bureau of Insurance.
Auto insurance increases over the years due to more coming from 3rd world countries who do not follow the rules of the road and cause more accidents. Higher risk, higher rates. Want lower rates, move to western Loudoun or beyond.
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> Very true... have you seen your homeowners and
> auto insurance also the last couple of years?
>
> Thanks to the Virginia Bureau of Insurance.
Auto insurance increases over the years due to more coming from 3rd world countries who do not follow the rules of the road and cause more accidents. Higher risk, higher rates. Want lower rates, move to western Loudoun or beyond.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
ERDoc
()
Date: September 16, 2019 07:30AM
Democrats fuck up everything. Never trust a democrat with anything! If a Democrat is for something, you know you should be against it.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
Lenny Libtard
()
Date: September 16, 2019 07:34AM
ERDoc Wrote:
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> Democrats fuck up everything. Never trust a
> democrat with anything! If a Democrat is for
> something, you know you should be against it.
Like it or not RGGI is coming to Virginia and you will pay the extra 10% maybe more. Not a Damn thing you can do to stop it unless you stop buying electricity.
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> Democrats fuck up everything. Never trust a
> democrat with anything! If a Democrat is for
> something, you know you should be against it.
Like it or not RGGI is coming to Virginia and you will pay the extra 10% maybe more. Not a Damn thing you can do to stop it unless you stop buying electricity.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: September 16, 2019 06:19PM
Lenny Libtard Wrote:
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> ERDoc Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Democrats fuck up everything. Never trust a
> > democrat with anything! If a Democrat is for
> > something, you know you should be against it.
>
> Like it or not RGGI is coming to Virginia and you
> will pay the extra 10% maybe more. Not a Damn
> thing you can do to stop it unless you stop buying
> electricity.
Thank you for proving the premise that Democrats fuck up everything.
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> ERDoc Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Democrats fuck up everything. Never trust a
> > democrat with anything! If a Democrat is for
> > something, you know you should be against it.
>
> Like it or not RGGI is coming to Virginia and you
> will pay the extra 10% maybe more. Not a Damn
> thing you can do to stop it unless you stop buying
> electricity.
Thank you for proving the premise that Democrats fuck up everything.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
energy star home owner
()
Date: September 22, 2019 11:16AM
The best thing about RGGI is that we are going to force the conservatards to pay it.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
Democrat Destruction
()
Date: September 22, 2019 11:54AM
That's all there is to it there a walking disaster every thing they do turns into shit
2020 Dems want you paying for illegals free health care while you bust your ass to keep up !
Pack them in here from all over the 3rd world for votes say Dems , give them welfare they'll vote Democrat for life
2020 Dems want you paying for illegals free health care while you bust your ass to keep up !
Pack them in here from all over the 3rd world for votes say Dems , give them welfare they'll vote Democrat for life
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
Another 3rd World Country
()
Date: September 22, 2019 11:59AM
>Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, and Vermont
Keep Virginia out of that idiotic liberal morass of climate change freaks when the world human population explosion is what America needs to be worried about
Keep Virginia out of that idiotic liberal morass of climate change freaks when the world human population explosion is what America needs to be worried about
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
Hiidog won Virginia
()
Date: September 22, 2019 02:08PM
Another 3rd World Country Wrote:
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> >Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland,
> Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New
> York, Rhode Island, and Vermont
>
> Keep Virginia out of that idiotic liberal morass
> of climate change freaks when the world human
> population explosion is what America needs to be
> worried about
Keep in mind that Virginia is a Liberal state.
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> >Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland,
> Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New
> York, Rhode Island, and Vermont
>
> Keep Virginia out of that idiotic liberal morass
> of climate change freaks when the world human
> population explosion is what America needs to be
> worried about
Keep in mind that Virginia is a Liberal state.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
osdkfj
()
Date: September 22, 2019 03:41PM
fuck you
cigarette taxes have rise 1,000% (yes, one thousand percent) in VA since Reagan
it began in democrat NY - happened there 10 years earlier, then NJ politicals got into VA and Bang!!
take your 10% rise and drop dead
I want my 1,000% back asshole
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
correction 22
()
Date: September 22, 2019 03:43PM
correction: 1,000% in NY, more like 650% in VA (it's still 65x worse than what OP is bickering about)
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
09sdkfj
()
Date: September 22, 2019 03:45PM
Dems are famous for raising real estate and utility rates until people die and are in tents
then, when fires occur, they sue the power company
then, with no other excuses, the sue the power company "for global warming"
YOU NEXT FIND THAT THE POWER COMPANY IS ... run and controlled by politics and it is a revolving door for political families, a shelter
then, when fires occur, they sue the power company
then, with no other excuses, the sue the power company "for global warming"
YOU NEXT FIND THAT THE POWER COMPANY IS ... run and controlled by politics and it is a revolving door for political families, a shelter
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
The Government
()
Date: September 22, 2019 03:48PM
You citizens please stfu. Just pay those taxes in full and on time! Try to be happy and enjoy the freedoms that we allow you to have.
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
amped up over power
()
Date: September 23, 2019 05:05AM
Re: Electric Bills to Rise 10% Under Dems
Posted by:
89dfdkj
()
Date: September 27, 2019 06:56PM
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