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Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: vmv67 ()
Date: July 17, 2019 09:43AM

every member of the Board of Supervisors voted to advance the proposal to ban panhandling from medians and at intersections

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2019/07/proposal-would-prohibit-panhandling-from-fairfax-county-va-medians-and-intersections/

Finally something everyone can agree on. Begging should be legal but not in the middle of streets. It's a safety hazard and should have been banned years ago.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: About Fucking Time ()
Date: July 17, 2019 09:47AM

These human speed bumps are mostly crime rings/human trafficking and its time to at least allow the police this tool as enough of their stupidity in traffic. Amazing how gullible residents who give them money are.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Says here... ()
Date: July 17, 2019 10:11AM

Number One median solicitors are County first responders.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: FCPD hero ()
Date: July 17, 2019 10:32AM

REMEMBER TO REPORT THE GAY FIREFIGHTERS THAT PANHANDLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET BECAUSE IT WILL BE ILLEGAL.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Human Tripod ()
Date: July 17, 2019 02:25PM

Will never happen. Freedom of Religion. Freedom of Speech. Freedom of Assembly.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Date: July 17, 2019 02:28PM

It's about time, rickies. This is money. Herrity is a steely eyed donk.

Borgata.


Addressing Panhandling in Our Community

Yesterday the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors unanimously approved my motion, presented jointly with Supervisor John Cook, asking County staff to draft an ordinance that would prohibit "curb to curb" engagement with cars while in medians or intersections. Other Virginia jurisdictions including the City of Winchester, Clarke County, and Frederick County, have adopted similar ordinances in response to the public safety issue of panhandling in roadways. Other jurisdictions have put up signs in medians that discourage residents from giving to panhandlers and includes the local human services hotline number.

While there are some who panhandle because they need to, many more take advantage of the generosity of our residents through panhandling rings. Investigation into these rings has proven that many panhandlers in the County are coming from outside the County and even outside of the state, attracted by the wealth and generosity of Fairfax County residents.

Although homelessness in Fairfax County has significantly decreased over the last ten years, for the past two years there has been a noticeable increase in panhandling on medians and intersections throughout the County. In 2017 alone, the Fairfax County Police department received over 2,100 calls related to this activity and many more calls have been received by our district offices. These calls detailed traffic issues, concerns about panhandler safety, and fears about a suspicious person at an intersection.

However, there are no absolutes in panhandling - many are from outside of our area and organized, but others are truly in need. The truth is that County taxpayers are already giving to help those in need through their tax dollars. The Board has consistently committed a significant portion of the County budget to providing services for those residents who are down on their luck. The County devotes over $490 million dollars of the taxpayer-funded budget to Human Services. I always encourage residents to direct panhandlers to these County resources including shelters, food banks, health, transportation, and job matching services, instead of giving small amounts of money. Giving cash to panhandlers disincentivizes them from going to take advantage of those services which would help them get off the streets for the long term. It is vitally important that we connect those in need with the right services and disincentivize panhandling.

This is not the first time I have proposed solutions to panhandling. In 2017, I proposed a program called "There's a Better Way," which has been successful in other jurisdictions nationally and was originally implemented in Albuquerque, New Mexico. I brought this idea before the Board and shared it with constituents in my newsletter from December 2017

This program focuses on connecting people in need with jobs as the primary tool for getting them back on their feet. Fairfax City recently adopted this program which provides dignity through work and has been successful getting panhandlers the help they need. I hope Fairfax County will adopt the program soon.

The ordinance I proposed yesterday would restrict everything "curb to curb," but would not affect engagement on sidewalks. Advertising for charity car washes, for example, would not be prohibited by this ordinance provided they are on the sidewalks and not entering the roadway and engaging motorists. The Board discussed concern about no longer allowing our firefighters to raise money during their annual "Fill the Boot" campaign for muscular dystrophy. This is a great cause and our firefighters raise significant funds to address this horrible disease and work to find a cure. The draft ordinance will come before the Board for discussion at the September 17th Public Safety Committee meeting. At that time, we will discuss the details of the ordinance as well as alternative solutions for our firefighters to raise money for muscular dystrophy. The next step would be the advertisement of a public hearing where residents can weigh in and then ultimately, the Board would vote on the ordinance.

If you are looking for a way to help those in need in your community, I encourage you to not give money to individuals panhandling. Instead, I recommend that you:

Provide a panhandler with our human services hotline number: 703-222-0880. The County offers a full range of services and resources to help those in need, suffering from mental illness, or substance abuse disorders. For a list of resources, please scroll to the bottom of this email.
Consider making a donation or volunteering for one of our nonprofit community partners dedicated to assisting our residents in need. Many of these organizations seek volunteers, if you cannot donate monetarily.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Dick Trickle ()
Date: July 17, 2019 03:52PM

I hope we see lots more of these niggers and gypsies in the parking lots and inside stores begging and shoving babies in our faces while they go through our pockets. Fairfax is officially a shithole.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Mrs. Heresy ()
Date: July 17, 2019 06:52PM

Bravo, Pat Herrity! Thank you from this regular, average constituent who is tired of the panhandlers on just about every corner of every major intersection. Particularly annoying to see the same teams of panhandlers every day on my way to and from work.

Yesterday, one of the regulars, an older, bald AA man who walks with a limp and leans on a cane took to waving at every car who passed. He was walking along the roadway, near the curb. An accident waiting to happen and a huge distraction at a congested intersection of Nutley and Pan Am shopping center.

I don’t mind the firefighters doing this; at least it is just over a weekend, there are signs or the fire truck parked nearby and they wear reflective vests and are considerably more nimble and trained professionals. At least we get a reprieve from the bums while the firefighters are out.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Mark j ()
Date: July 17, 2019 11:26PM

Cant wait until it passes...get rid of these bums

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: XUMGP ()
Date: July 18, 2019 02:22AM

Regardless of other concerns, panhandling in the medians is a safety issue, especially with all of the traffic around here.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Pam Hendler ()
Date: July 18, 2019 06:33AM

You're all ignoring the valuable service we panhandlers provide to the community. How else can dirty democrats relieve the guilt of their unearned wealth? Giving me $20 is still way cheaper than going to a shrink!

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Pee Dub ()
Date: July 18, 2019 07:00AM

Send them to PWC. We don’t have enough hobos.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: About Time ()
Date: July 18, 2019 01:03PM

Amen -- this better pass. Will it be enforced?

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Fairfax for Inclusion ()
Date: July 18, 2019 03:06PM

Banning panhandling (a pejorative and racist term) is biased against those of lesser means and would have a disparate impact on people of color and other historically repressed populations.

We must oppose this.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: NEVERRRRRR ()
Date: July 18, 2019 03:07PM

The Democrats will not let this pass bc they need to bus these Shithole born homeless(from Oregon, California, Washington state), for votes!

73% of felons are registered Democrats FYI.
Now u see why mcAwful/warner/cucky Kaine pushes this stuff.

We kick out illegals, dems get homeless votes.
Duhhhh

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: No way Josie ()
Date: July 18, 2019 03:08PM

Pee Dub Wrote:
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> Send them to PWC. We don’t have enough hobos.


Nah, send them to Deloitte.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: You made that up ()
Date: July 18, 2019 04:21PM

NEVERRRRRR Wrote:
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> 73% of felons are registered Democrats FYI.
> Now u see why mcAwful/warner/cucky Kaine pushes
> this stuff.

Interesting stat considering Virginia doesn't have registered Democrats or Republicans.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Fox News is Pravda ()
Date: July 18, 2019 06:12PM

You made that up Wrote:
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> NEVERRRRRR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 73% of felons are registered Democrats FYI.
> > Now u see why mcAwful/warner/cucky Kaine pushes
> > this stuff.
>
> Interesting stat considering Virginia doesn't have
> registered Democrats or Republicans.

Fox News told him to think that.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Whoa Hoss ()
Date: July 18, 2019 09:34PM

>I don’t mind the firefighters doing this;

I DO AND SO DO MANY OTHERS!

NO Free pass for any panhandlers they can glad hand with the smelly boot in the parking lots along side of the road, if you want to pull off and give them your life savings that's fair play, Id rather see them manning the stations however why are they so special do cops or janitors and landfill employees get to do this ?

Man the stations and cut the panhandling squeegee kid crap its not just a waste of county resources its unfair and its a danger to the public in traffic

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Niggerface Northam ()
Date: July 19, 2019 02:26PM

You made that up Wrote:
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> NEVERRRRRR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 73% of felons are registered Democrats FYI.
> > Now u see why mcAwful/warner/cucky Kaine pushes
> > this stuff.
>
> Interesting stat considering Virginia doesn't have
> registered Democrats or Republicans.

You’re a smart guy.
You connected the two.
Just like when Trump mentioned some facts on a tweet and then the “lame 4” replied to those unnamed people and instantly were offended, validating their beliefs.


Justice Democrats. Multimedia campaign to promote 4 people thru Netflix deals/ new green deal etc. lmao. Too bad Omar wasn’t vetted enough. They go down in flames soon.



Robert Creamer. Felon gets admitted into Obama White House.
Pens a manifesto while serving prison time.
Wife is congresswoman.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Democrats
Progressive shitheads in general.

If Ruth bader retires within the year.....whomp whomp faggets!

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: JerryHardcroft ()
Date: July 19, 2019 04:17PM

Yea will this include the firefighters begging for money?

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Road user ()
Date: July 19, 2019 04:41PM

JerryHardcroft Wrote:
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> Yea will this include the firefighters begging for
> money?


It better. At least the homeless stay on the goddamn median. Firefighters make it a one lane road and shit up traffic.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Full Of $hit ()
Date: July 19, 2019 04:43PM

vmv67 Wrote:
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> every member of the Board of Supervisors voted
> to advance the proposal to ban panhandling from
> medians and at intersections

>
> https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2019/07/proposal-w
> ould-prohibit-panhandling-from-fairfax-county-va-m
> edians-and-intersections/
>
> Finally something everyone can agree on. Begging
> should be legal but not in the middle of streets.
> It's a safety hazard and should have been banned
> years ago.


What about the even much more dangerous idiots operating the motor vehicle's all over the region, CLOWN! The way 'the monetary system' is set, some have know choice but to try and get help in such way's as stand on a median strip with a help sign for needed help of the simplest
of needs such as food. And, technically/factually, asking for HELP, alone, is NOT 'panhandling' for $MONEY$. If someone/anyone offers, first,without any cohersion involved, you $money$ when you are only asking for HELP, and you accept it and it is nothing more than an offered gift. NOT PANHANDLING. And this is not an OPINION, and/or a FEELING, for all you doltz 'out
there. It is a U.S. Supreme Court Ruling FACT!

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: got that right! ()
Date: July 19, 2019 04:44PM

Says here... Wrote:
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> Number One median solicitors are County first
> responders.


#2 is the cops showing up!

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Full Of $hit ()
Date: July 19, 2019 04:47PM

BishopJohnnyCakes Wrote:
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> It's about time, rickies. This is money. Herrity
> is a steely eyed donk.
>
> Borgata.
>
>
> Addressing Panhandling in Our Community
>
> Yesterday the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors
> unanimously approved my motion, presented jointly
> with Supervisor John Cook, asking County staff to
> draft an ordinance that would prohibit "curb to
> curb" engagement with cars while in medians or
> intersections. Other Virginia jurisdictions
> including the City of Winchester, Clarke County,
> and Frederick County, have adopted similar
> ordinances in response to the public safety issue
> of panhandling in roadways. Other jurisdictions
> have put up signs in medians that discourage
> residents from giving to panhandlers and includes
> the local human services hotline number.
>
> While there are some who panhandle because they
> need to, many more take advantage of the
> generosity of our residents through panhandling
> rings. Investigation into these rings has proven
> that many panhandlers in the County are coming
> from outside the County and even outside of the
> state, attracted by the wealth and generosity of
> Fairfax County residents.
>
> Although homelessness in Fairfax County has
> significantly decreased over the last ten years,
> for the past two years there has been a noticeable
> increase in panhandling on medians and
> intersections throughout the County. In 2017
> alone, the Fairfax County Police department
> received over 2,100 calls related to this activity
> and many more calls have been received by our
> district offices. These calls detailed traffic
> issues, concerns about panhandler safety, and
> fears about a suspicious person at an
> intersection.
>
> However, there are no absolutes in panhandling -
> many are from outside of our area and organized,
> but others are truly in need. The truth is that
> County taxpayers are already giving to help those
> in need through their tax dollars. The Board has
> consistently committed a significant portion of
> the County budget to providing services for those
> residents who are down on their luck. The County
> devotes over $490 million dollars of the
> taxpayer-funded budget to Human Services. I always
> encourage residents to direct panhandlers to these
> County resources including shelters, food banks,
> health, transportation, and job matching services,
> instead of giving small amounts of money. Giving
> cash to panhandlers disincentivizes them from
> going to take advantage of those services which
> would help them get off the streets for the long
> term. It is vitally important that we connect
> those in need with the right services and
> disincentivize panhandling.
>
> This is not the first time I have proposed
> solutions to panhandling. In 2017, I proposed a
> program called "There's a Better Way," which has
> been successful in other jurisdictions nationally
> and was originally implemented in Albuquerque, New
> Mexico. I brought this idea before the Board and
> shared it with constituents in my newsletter from
> December 2017
>
> This program focuses on connecting people in need
> with jobs as the primary tool for getting them
> back on their feet. Fairfax City recently adopted
> this program which provides dignity through work
> and has been successful getting panhandlers the
> help they need. I hope Fairfax County will adopt
> the program soon.
>
> The ordinance I proposed yesterday would restrict
> everything "curb to curb," but would not affect
> engagement on sidewalks. Advertising for charity
> car washes, for example, would not be prohibited
> by this ordinance provided they are on the
> sidewalks and not entering the roadway and
> engaging motorists. The Board discussed concern
> about no longer allowing our firefighters to raise
> money during their annual "Fill the Boot" campaign
> for muscular dystrophy. This is a great cause and
> our firefighters raise significant funds to
> address this horrible disease and work to find a
> cure. The draft ordinance will come before the
> Board for discussion at the September 17th Public
> Safety Committee meeting. At that time, we will
> discuss the details of the ordinance as well as
> alternative solutions for our firefighters to
> raise money for muscular dystrophy. The next step
> would be the advertisement of a public hearing
> where residents can weigh in and then ultimately,
> the Board would vote on the ordinance.
>
> If you are looking for a way to help those in need
> in your community, I encourage you to not give
> money to individuals panhandling. Instead, I
> recommend that you:
>
> Provide a panhandler with our human services
> hotline number: 703-222-0880. The County offers a
> full range of services and resources to help those
> in need, suffering from mental illness, or
> substance abuse disorders. For a list of
> resources, please scroll to the bottom of this
> email.
> Consider making a donation or volunteering for
> one of our nonprofit community partners dedicated
> to assisting our residents in need. Many of these
> organizations seek volunteers, if you cannot
> donate monetarily.


Plainly, you have proven here that you are full of $hit!

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Lt Um Try This ()
Date: July 19, 2019 08:45PM

>try and get help in such way's as stand on

The front entrance to the Ritz at Tysons II

The front of the Gov Center

The "public assembly" are inside the gov ment center lobby

The lobbies of all the Democrat BOS members offices

The top of the brick shopping bag at the Tower Clubs entrance

There plenty of places they can panhandle out of the streets and bring in way more then 15 dollars an hour

Whats the matter are you all racist ?
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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Firefighters Can Join Them ()
Date: July 19, 2019 08:47PM

On their own time and own dime ! Not the taxpayers!

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: EDDU4 ()
Date: July 20, 2019 12:08AM

BUT, HOW THEN ARE THEIR THOUSANDS OF ILLEGALS THAT fAIRFAX IS ENCOURAGING TO COME INTO fAIRFAX EXPECTED TO EARN A LIVING/

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Queen Sharon B ()
Date: July 20, 2019 07:54AM

EDDU4 Wrote:
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> BUT, HOW THEN ARE THEIR THOUSANDS OF ILLEGALS
> THAT fAIRFAX IS ENCOURAGING TO COME INTO fAIRFAX
> EXPECTED TO EARN A LIVING/

I don't expect MS-13 to earn a living except by servicing my sexual needs.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: MS 13's Contribution ()
Date: July 20, 2019 11:38PM

Weed and other drugs.. DEMOCRATS NEED TO ESCAPE REALITY ! Some RINOS Too !

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: AFTER ALL ()
Date: July 20, 2019 11:39PM

SHE LOST! And there going to LOSE AGAIN IN 2020 !

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: ONEFAIRFAX ()
Date: July 22, 2019 05:55PM

So much for the ONE FAIRFAX initiative...bunch of hypocrites. How else am I supposed to pay for my heroin. At least the community service board gives me free Narcan when I overdose on a hot dose I gots from Bodymore. It gives me ONE MORE DAY to victimize people to support my addiction.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: no shame in my game ()
Date: July 22, 2019 08:57PM

Good.

Get all the white heroin addicts out my neighborhood.

They stand at the lights daily and beg. Young and old. No signs, just hands out and a pitiful look on their faces. Have they no family to help them out? Churches? The church at the same corner has all kinds of signs advertising help with food, clothes, have shelter programs- but yet they stand there. It's drug money to them.

I never see a black, asian, hispanic at the lights begging. If anything i see the hispanics gathering up the street for day labor. At least they are willing to WORK for it. Not shamelessly BEG.

With minorities its a "culture" issue but whites it's "medical" a damn shame. Treat them as they treated blacks in the 80's at the height of the crack epidemic. Lock them ALL up.

Only strung out looking white people- and the occasional older white man/woman team that both look like they came from wild and wonderful West Virginia.

Boone County Mating Call! *shakes bottle of oxy pills*

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Ban panhandling in the county! ()
Date: July 22, 2019 11:14PM

HELL YES! Ban panhandling in the county!

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Fagin ()
Date: September 17, 2019 10:09PM

All the celebrating in the previous posts was premature. The idiot Bored of Stupidvisors had an opportunity to do their first useful thing in years and instead they are leaning toward the feckless approach of posting signs. Asking the marks not to give money to the beggars!

https://www.tysonsreporter.com/2019/09/17/board-of-supervisors-suggest-anti-panhandling-signage-at-intersections/

Highlights:
--"Staff" failed to provide a draft ordinance.
--The signs will offer "resources for those in need," as if these people are Oliver Twists rather than gangmembers and con artists.
--Bulova, Foust, and the inimitable Hudgins say characteristically stupid things.

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Bullshit Boardmembers ()
Date: September 17, 2019 10:33PM

Learn how to say Yes!!

Who is unreasonably hurt by a YES vote????

Not the gypsies, tramps, thieves, conartists & swindlers!!

The suckers who pay up are the ones getting hurt!

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: Coonman wuz here ()
Date: September 17, 2019 11:01PM

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Re: Proposal would ban panhandling at medians, intersections in Fairfax County
Posted by: croocked ()
Date: September 18, 2019 03:30AM

Do you know why Bulova wont bring forward a vote to ban panhandling? Because then the IAFF Fill the boot would be illegal. You know who gives money to Bulova?? IAFF 2068. Yup the IAFF gives money to Bulova so they can continue collecting money for charity while also taking a cut from the boot that goes directly into the IAFF Money coffers.

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