Why would anyone live in a townhouse? Realtors make millions with this great idea. Let’s cram as many homes as possible into one area and put them up for 475K. Living in a “house” wedged in between 2 others is like you are in a trap. And your life will suck if your wall to wall neighbors are jerks. It’s amazing to me how many idiots jump to the whims of the fat and happy real estate companies. I love my SFH and yard.

Casual Observer14 Wrote:
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> Why would anyone live in a townhouse? Realtors
> make millions with this great idea. Let’s cram
> as many homes as possible into one area and put
> them up for 475K. Living in a “house” wedged
> in between 2 others is like you are in a trap. And
> your life will suck if your wall to wall neighbors
> are jerks. It’s amazing to me how many idiots
> jump to the whims of the fat and happy real estate
> companies. I love my SFH and yard.

Depends on who you are. Lots of childless couples and retirees don't want the maintenance work and cost of a SFH and the yard that goes with it. Townhouses are also more likely to be convenient to mass transit or even walkable to shopping areas.

Lived in a condo for almost a decade, a townhouse for five years, and now a SFH. I sometimes miss the amenities of the condo, and the low cost / low work maintenance of the townhouse. The SFH's lawn keeps me busy at least an hour a week, to say nothing of the interior cleaning and fix-ups.

It's all like praising fried eggs while condemning scrambled.

Scrambled eggs are superior. Fried eggs are for nipples...

When was the last one of those that you saw?

depends Wrote:
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> Casual Observer14 Wrote:
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> -----
> > Why would anyone live in a townhouse? Realtors
> > make millions with this great idea. Let’s
> cram
> > as many homes as possible into one area and put
> > them up for 475K. Living in a “house”
> wedged
> > in between 2 others is like you are in a trap.
> And
> > your life will suck if your wall to wall
> neighbors
> > are jerks. It’s amazing to me how many idiots
> > jump to the whims of the fat and happy real
> estate
> > companies. I love my SFH and yard.
>
> Depends on who you are. Lots of childless couples
> and retirees don't want the maintenance work and
> cost of a SFH and the yard that goes with it.
> Townhouses are also more likely to be convenient
> to mass transit or even walkable to shopping
> areas.
>
> Lived in a condo for almost a decade, a townhouse
> for five years, and now a SFH. I sometimes miss
> the amenities of the condo, and the low cost / low
> work maintenance of the townhouse. The SFH's lawn
> keeps me busy at least an hour a week, to say
> nothing of the interior cleaning and fix-ups.

You can pay illegals $100 a month to take care of all your landscaping. Much cheaper than all the over head and other expenses you have to pay with a condo fee.

illegals, use them Wrote:
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> depends Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Casual Observer14 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why would anyone live in a townhouse?
> Realtors
> > > make millions with this great idea. Let’s
> > cram
> > > as many homes as possible into one area and
> put
> > > them up for 475K. Living in a “house”
> > wedged
> > > in between 2 others is like you are in a
> trap.
> > And
> > > your life will suck if your wall to wall
> > neighbors
> > > are jerks. It’s amazing to me how many
> idiots
> > > jump to the whims of the fat and happy real
> > estate
> > > companies. I love my SFH and yard.
> >
> > Depends on who you are. Lots of childless
> couples
> > and retirees don't want the maintenance work
> and
> > cost of a SFH and the yard that goes with it.
> > Townhouses are also more likely to be
> convenient
> > to mass transit or even walkable to shopping
> > areas.
> >
> > Lived in a condo for almost a decade, a
> townhouse
> > for five years, and now a SFH. I sometimes miss
> > the amenities of the condo, and the low cost /
> low
> > work maintenance of the townhouse. The SFH's
> lawn
> > keeps me busy at least an hour a week, to say
> > nothing of the interior cleaning and fix-ups.
>
> You can pay illegals $100 a month to take care of
> all your landscaping. Much cheaper than all the
> over head and other expenses you have to pay with
> a condo fee.

Sounds great until you need to spend $8k to $15k on a new roof, $2k to $5k when a major pipe goes, all the utilities that come with a SFH... Then there's all the mortgage interest you're paying because you are taking out a much bigger loan. Don't get me wrong, I'm in a SFH, and its worth it given the # of kids we have. But when they leave the nest, we're going to take a hard look and decide having one here is worth it.

Casual Observer14 Wrote:
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> Why would anyone live in a townhouse? Realtors
> make millions with this great idea. Let’s cram
> as many homes as possible into one area and put
> them up for 475K. Living in a “house” wedged
> in between 2 others is like you are in a trap. And
> your life will suck if your wall to wall neighbors
> are jerks. It’s amazing to me how many idiots
> jump to the whims of the fat and happy real estate
> companies. I love my SFH and yard.

OP has never owned and maintained a property with his own blood and sweat.

Townhouse means no yard, no yard means you can spend more time with your hobby and less expense doing (farming).

Townhouses in Fairfax owned by asians are HUGE - they have allot of square feet compared to older fairfax townhouses. So the term "townhouse" doesn't mean what it used to mean. And they have all the cost of inside maintenance (still significant)

A nice apartment with management - you'd be free to go earn and not be tied to a maintenance job - if maintenance isn't your bag.

depends Wrote:
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> illegals, use them Wrote:
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> > depends Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Casual Observer14 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why would anyone live in a townhouse?
> > Realtors
> > > > make millions with this great idea. Let’s
> > > cram
> > > > as many homes as possible into one area and
> > put
> > > > them up for 475K. Living in a “house”
> > > wedged
> > > > in between 2 others is like you are in a
> > trap.
> > > And
> > > > your life will suck if your wall to wall
> > > neighbors
> > > > are jerks. It’s amazing to me how many
> > idiots
> > > > jump to the whims of the fat and happy real
> > > estate
> > > > companies. I love my SFH and yard.
> > >
> > > Depends on who you are. Lots of childless
> > couples
> > > and retirees don't want the maintenance work
> > and
> > > cost of a SFH and the yard that goes with it.
> > > Townhouses are also more likely to be
> > convenient
> > > to mass transit or even walkable to shopping
> > > areas.
> > >
> > > Lived in a condo for almost a decade, a
> > townhouse
> > > for five years, and now a SFH. I sometimes
> miss
> > > the amenities of the condo, and the low cost
> /
> > low
> > > work maintenance of the townhouse. The SFH's
> > lawn
> > > keeps me busy at least an hour a week, to say
> > > nothing of the interior cleaning and fix-ups.
> >
> > You can pay illegals $100 a month to take care
> of
> > all your landscaping. Much cheaper than all the
> > over head and other expenses you have to pay
> with
> > a condo fee.
>
> Sounds great until you need to spend $8k to $15k
> on a new roof, $2k to $5k when a major pipe goes,
> all the utilities that come with a SFH... Then
> there's all the mortgage interest you're paying
> because you are taking out a much bigger loan.
> Don't get me wrong, I'm in a SFH, and its worth it
> given the # of kids we have. But when they leave
> the nest, we're going to take a hard look and
> decide having one here is worth it.


$15k on a new roof would mean you're living in a 10,000 sqft mansion or you're a dumbass who calls people like Long, like most condo associations do. I paid $5k to have my roof done on a 2,400 sqft home, GAF 3-tab roof. $5k for a pipe? I assume you're talking about a the main line running into your home, that is insured with Dominion for $10 a month. If you shop around and don't mind doing somethings yourself, a SFH will be much cheaper than a condo. Some condos are outright ripoffs and rampant with cost over runs and fraud like Yorktowne Square Condominium and the Watergate. I own a few condos as rentals, I just had one spend $100k on a pointless lawsuit, great use of money. A few years ago one association paid almost $200k for SNOW REMOVAL, fantastic use of funds, I'm sure the contractor is not fucking them up the ass, /s. And then you have other B.S like special assessments, annual dryer vent inspections and furnace inspections.
I have had work done by associations in my units due to problems caused by the association, things I could have done for $2 the condo hired Servpro to unnecessarily tear the unit apart and completely redo it to the tune of over $15k. I can go on and on with all the waste I have seen by associations.

Living in a Townhouse brands you as a loser.

^^^ That’s just dumb.

I loved owning a townhouse before I had a larger family. But what bothered me most was the neighbors complaining about my constant diarrhea. They said they could hear it and smell it, and hated the sobbing that accompanied it. Rude!

I was in an upscale townhouse in my 30's, (no noise through the walls) and I can't think of a downside, except the silly HOA rules. But the rules did keep the obnoxious people in line.

When you're sliding into first,
And you feel a juicy burst,
Diarrhea! Diarrhea!

When you fall down in the dirt,
And you hear something squirt,
Diarrhea! Diarrhea!

When you're sliding into home
And your pants are full of foam,
Diarrhea! Diarrhea!

When you're feeling kind of funny
And your pants are really runny,
Diarrhea! Diarrhea!

Diarrhea rah rah rah!
Diarrhea rah rah rah!
Some people think it's gross,
But it's really great on toast!
It's diarrhea! It's diarrhea!

Casual Observer14 Wrote:
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> Why would anyone live in a townhouse?

Because they live in a county that has banned trailer parks.

So instead of being trailer trash, they're townhouse trash.

The average sales price of a Fairfax County attached home sold in April of this year was just over $405K. That's more than ten years worth of salary for many of you.

Hmmm... Wrote:
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> The average sales price of a Fairfax County
> attached home sold in April of this year was just
> over $405K. That's more than ten years worth of
> salary for many of you.

Every house I ever owned made me money. Even the ones I lived in myself. Houses in Fairfax don't cost, they pay. Thank god for our hardworking immigrants. They made me wealthy.

landlord 583 Wrote:
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> Hmmm... Wrote:
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> > The average sales price of a Fairfax County
> > attached home sold in April of this year was
> just
> > over $405K. That's more than ten years worth
> of
> > salary for many of you.
>
> Every house I ever owned made me money. Even the
> ones I lived in myself. Houses in Fairfax don't
> cost, they pay. Thank god for our hardworking
> immigrants. They made me wealthy.


Roger THAT

Did 4 years active duty, 20 years ago. Used VA home loan to buy a townhouse in OT, zero down. Paid it off immediately. Bought property adjacent to it, outright, with money I made in Iraq.

Rent it to an officer.

Minimal investment on my part, maximum return thanks to you taxpayers.


Work smart, not hard.

Heh.

........ Wrote:
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> Did 4 years active duty, 20 years ago. Used VA
> home loan to buy a townhouse in OT, zero down.
> Paid it off immediately. Bought property adjacent
> to it, outright, with money I made in Iraq.
>
> Rent it to an officer.
>
> Minimal investment on my part, maximum return
> thanks to you taxpayers.
>
>
> Work smart, not hard.
>
> Heh.

I love it when murderous country invading American soldiers leech off the tax payers in exchange for supporting or directly committing the murder of innocents and righteous defenders in foreign lands. It just makes it that more ironic when they gripe about welfare for impoverished Americans. IDK which is worse TBH, standing army oppressing it's own people (militarized police) or the world police oppressing foreigners in the land (us military) suka fucking blyat yall

Town Home Land Wrote:
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> I was in an upscale townhouse in my 30's, (no
> noise through the walls) and I can't think of a
> downside, except the silly HOA rules. But the
> rules did keep the obnoxious people in line.

I love my HOA. We have an implicit and unstated rule that you can’t sell your place to darkies, towel-heads, ching-chonggers, mexicans, and other undesirables. It’s all part of the “Keep North Arlington WHITE initiative” and has worked wonders for keeping the place crime free and the property values up. HOAs are like HIV/AIDS. A gift from God!

Black Caulk Wrote:
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> Town Home Land Wrote:
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> > I was in an upscale townhouse in my 30's, (no
> > noise through the walls) and I can't think of a
> > downside, except the silly HOA rules. But the
> > rules did keep the obnoxious people in line.
>
> I love my HOA. We have an implicit and unstated
> rule that you can’t sell your place to darkies,
> towel-heads, ching-chonggers, mexicans, and other
> undesirables. It’s all part of the “Keep
> North Arlington WHITE initiative” and has worked
> wonders for keeping the place crime free and the
> property values up. HOAs are like HIV/AIDS. A
> gift from God!

You are not from North Arlington. You are not white although you do act very white and only speak English. You are cool in my book though, I think eventually you could be president if you get your shit together and stop screwing around tbh. Time > money

Townhouses work for some people's wants and needs, not others. This is not hard to understand.

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Fartfax underpoop Wrote:
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> Townhouses work for some people's wants and needs,
> not others. This is not hard to understand.


Sure townhouses are great for some people. People who failed to achieve in life.

article of several Wrote:
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> Fartfax underpoop Wrote:
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> > Townhouses work for some people's wants and
> needs,
> > not others. This is not hard to understand.
>
>
> Sure townhouses are great for some people. People
> who failed to achieve in life.


It doesn’t count as “owning” the home when you simply live in the basement that mommy and daddy paid for.

SMALL HOUSE - BIG HOA

the smaller the house the more corrupt the HOA

GO FIGURE !

IMHO townhouse roofs are significantly (less costly / easier) than those of a SFD but the plumbing electric windows costs would be closer to the same

owners are generally "un-attached" to a townhouse: if the place needs major work they move into another townhouse, the place is GUTTED by a (realtor team*), and sold top market price

(gutting a place is way more efficient than per incident fix-it jobs, is sure to make a place saleable ... but requires occupants to move out to occur)

THE SAD THING ABOUT HOUSING ... it's being built (esp in democrat areas) by non-professionals with no ethics

IT'S DISPOSABLE WORK ALLOT DONE ILLEGALLY - YOU HAVE TO GUT IT because it wasn't built to last

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historical homes they had allot of room - they had walk-behind walls so things could be fixed without tearing down walls - from a thin walkway behind each wall

today? ha. everything has to be done by tearing out the wall it's like hardware stores and ryan homes designed it that way because it costs more

(example - wiring and plumbing behind drywall is kinda outrageous and dangerous: but they do it anyway. allot of plumbing does things like drilling out studs to fit a pipe so wide it's illegal - but they do it anyway - they don't give a fuck and illegals do all the installing)

it bad work. tear out drywall just to see if the wires are safe? your f'ing kidding. it's ass backwards, the way homes are built today.

BUT NOT FOR NO REASON

THOSE FUCKERS (stores, ryan homes) KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING: increasing cost and increasing the need to call contractors

15 Old House Features We Were Wrong to Abandon - Bob Vila

even better LOG CABINS had a walking space between the out and inner wall. it allowed for insulation and maintaining waterproofing and extra weather protection - and served as a place to store things not being used, occasionally. there was no push for square feet back then

windows were wood and glass and could last hundreds of years if maintained

TODAY'S WINDOWS are plastic and glass and have a so called "energy" gas vacuum. what does that mean??? it means the window will fail by getting etched on the INSIDE where it can't be cleaned and you'll need to pay thousands and thousands for new windows instead of just: cleaning your window. etched how? years of sunlight charge the particles in the window CHARGED PARTICLES ETCH GLASS

so ... wood and glass window that are easy to clean, say double pane (making easy to clean harder to build and sell and find)

Homedepot sells sealed double windows made of vinyl cheap enough they're disposable so why worry right?

or is that wrong? does a few hundred years of service outweight the current offering of Homedepo's window price?

the price is: ($100 out of stock error), $150-$250

so a wooden frame and two piece of glass would cost what?

ANYWAY IT'S THE INSTALLATION COST THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS. which one do you have to re-install more often

you have to buy new vinyl windows every time a house is sold because they're crap and the house needs to be gutted ? they frames dull the glass etched? the realator will be all like "well if we have to charge you for cleaning and painting these i don't think the results will be worth it - may as well replace them"

See? things are crap these days it's all designed to be an outrageous cost

today's toilets?

FUU has an article. government mandated to be failures.

they can BARELY FLUSH and waste water (insuring gov workers who made the rules get more money - because government runs most of the water, of course: obama made rules)

new toilets they CLOG FAR EASIER despite that they use MORE WATER (more how? multiple flushes to get the job done of course. they knew that when they designed it: that's HOW they designed it. to waste water yet to not last. homedepot helped them design it: sell more, more homedepot contractors hired)

new toilets HAVE NO APPRECIABLE GLAZING or micro-thin glazing that means: even if it doesn't clog you can't keep it clean. you'll still need a new one. the glazing wears off, chemical cleaners will wear it off. to have it presentable you'll have to buy a new one - ie, when selling a home or if you ever have guests over. sinks too no glazing.

you'll continually have to clean them with effort and be tempted to use an abrasive cleaner (which would destroy it quickly) because the cleaning is difficult. commercials will serruptitiously suggest using (comet - and abrasive cleaner) for this while a small warning on the label suggests against it.

WHAT A COINCIDENCE !!

the windows, toilets, sinks - they aren't made in USA anymore - installed by illegals - and homedepot who sells these are pushing them hard - it's all you can buy it's ALL THEY HAVE IN STOCK: the new stuff, the stuff that makes remodeling a regular and costly event of "replace everything" and "you'll need a contractor" (often - they suggest it's required and threaten it's required, to hire a contractor - despite the fact they use untrained illegals)

installing windows had been a skilled trade because they are FAR MORE COMPLICATED than than you'd think - engineering architectural requirements - for controlling mold, breathing, preventing damage to occupants and the space between the outer and inner walls of the house

BUT THEY DON'T TELL YOU THAT - THEY have illegals just stuff in made in mexico junk any way it fits !!

yea. sure they followed the requirements right? bullshit. they didn't.

rthrge Wrote:
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> installing windows had been a skilled trade
> because they are FAR MORE COMPLICATED than than
> you'd think - engineering architectural
> requirements - for controlling mold, breathing,
> preventing damage to occupants and the space
> between the outer and inner walls of the house
>
> BUT THEY DON'T TELL YOU THAT - THEY have illegals
> just stuff in made in mexico junk any way it fits
> !!
>
> yea. sure they followed the requirements right?
> bullshit. they didn't.

Why do you even care about stupid shit like that?

Casual Observer14 Wrote:
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> Why would anyone live in a townhouse? Realtors
> make millions with this great idea. Let’s cram
> as many homes as possible into one area and put
> them up for 475K. Living in a “house” wedged
> in between 2 others is like you are in a trap. And
> your life will suck if your wall to wall neighbors
> are jerks. It’s amazing to me how many idiots
> jump to the whims of the fat and happy real estate
> companies. I love my SFH and yard.

Townhomes are essential. If everyone lived in single family homes think of how infinitely much further urban sprawl would be. There wouldn't be a single spot of undeveloped land between DC and Winchester/Frederick. It's bad enough the way it is. You have no clue what you are talking about so leave the urban planning and zoning to the professionals you half wit.

Living in a townhouse after the age of 30 clearly indicates you are a loser.

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