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Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: AnthonyCumia ()
Date: June 11, 2019 06:51PM

Why was Tysons Galleria built and why is Tysons Corner Center still open?

Why two Macy's?

Same owner!

What the fuck?

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: Marketing is a beautiful thing ()
Date: June 11, 2019 06:54PM

Because people are stupid. Tell them that something is more exclusive and they'll flock to it and happily pay more for the same fucking thing.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: Tysons Shopper ()
Date: June 11, 2019 07:37PM

AnthonyCumia Wrote:
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> Why was Tysons Galleria built and why is Tysons
> Corner Center still open?
>
> Why two Macy's?
>
> Same owner!
>
> What the fuck?


According to Wikipedia, it opened in 1988

That Galleria Macy's closed earlier this year, I stopped in to check out the sales. The other mall's a much much busier place and better for 'normal' shopping, that's why it's still open.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: Bob the Builder ()
Date: June 11, 2019 07:56PM

Tysons Shopper Wrote:
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> AnthonyCumia Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why was Tysons Galleria built and why is Tysons
> > Corner Center still open?
> >
> > Why two Macy's?
> >
> > Same owner!
> >
> > What the fuck?
>
>
> According to Wikipedia, it opened in 1988
>
> That Galleria Macy's closed earlier this year, I
> stopped in to check out the sales. The other
> mall's a much much busier place and better for
> 'normal' shopping, that's why it's still open.

Ha! before the mall opened FCFMO said no way so Ted and Mark started throwing cash around to make it happen. Our crew stay there closing of unrented space off from the public so they wouldn't wonder into it. We stayed there 36 hours straight and finally they granted occupancy. Channel 7 covered the story.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: Brown Onion ()
Date: June 11, 2019 08:02PM

Gotta make the arabs and persians happy, thats why. At least shopping prevents them from blowing up shit like they always do.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: AnthonyCumia ()
Date: June 12, 2019 12:19AM

Tysons Galleria didn't re-brand itself as the "luxury" mall until well into the 2000s.

BUT WHY TWO MACY'S?

I like how unrented space at the Galleria was converted into auxiliary space for Maggianos and empty space behind false walls...FOR YEARS.

Also, nice failed food court concept and empty parking garages, stupid.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: ritz ()
Date: June 12, 2019 12:08PM

That Ritz Carlton does a pretty good international business, attracting the well-to-do foreign travelers coming into Dulles. I think that really helps the mall.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: Long Time Area Resident ()
Date: June 12, 2019 02:11PM

> Why two Macy's?

Mergers within the retain industry. I think the same thing happened in Fair Oaks.

> Why was Tysons Galleria built and why is Tysons
> Corner Center still open?

My best guess is Tysons Galleria was built because there was a real estate owner sitting on a large parcel of land trying to figure out what to do with it. At the time there was a trend in the country towards upscale Megamalls and he thought he could do the same thing here. They probably didn't realize that Tysons Corner Center was already adequately meeting the needs of upscale shoppers in the area. In retrospect they would have been better off holding off for a few years and then going straight to office complexes, but hindsight is 20-20

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: G-Wagon Brooo ()
Date: June 12, 2019 02:46PM

For the Arabs to hang around and shop at

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: HandyManSam ()
Date: June 12, 2019 06:25PM

Long Time Area Resident Wrote:
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> > Why two Macy's?
>
> Mergers within the retain industry. I think the
> same thing happened in Fair Oaks.
>
> > Why was Tysons Galleria built and why is Tysons
> > Corner Center still open?
>
> My best guess is Tysons Galleria was built because
> there was a real estate owner sitting on a large
> parcel of land trying to figure out what to do
> with it. At the time there was a trend in the
> country towards upscale Megamalls and he thought
> he could do the same thing here. They probably
> didn't realize that Tysons Corner Center was
> already adequately meeting the needs of upscale
> shoppers in the area. In retrospect they would
> have been better off holding off for a few years
> and then going straight to office complexes, but
> hindsight is 20-20

The Lerners had an interest in the property and the development of it. The Mall was built at the time when mega malls popularity was waning. After a time the Lerners sold their interest in the Mall and kept the Hotel. The area used to be what we called the pits and we used to ride out dirt bikes there. It was a local party place too and many a high school freshman lost their virginity there. Now Tysons is the next great city or something. Crazy local history.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: AnthonyCumia ()
Date: June 12, 2019 10:57PM

HandyManSam Wrote:
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>
> high school freshman lost their virginity there.
> Now Tysons is the next great city or something.
> Crazy local history.

Can't be the next great city if your fucking streets don't have crosswalks painted on them.

Take a look at Tysons Fucking Boulevard between Galleria Drive and Lillian Court. WTF?

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: growing up around both ()
Date: June 13, 2019 12:43AM

Tyson's Corner Center in the 1980s and into the 1990s wasn't particularly upscale. There was a very real opening at the time for the Galleria which for years boasted more upscale shops and restaurants, to say nothing of the Ritz-Carlton. FAO Schwarz had an amazing three level toy store there.

But back to the original mall... JCPenny was one of the anchor stores, not to mention the discount retailer Woolworth's. Spencer's, Tilt and lots of other "bubble gum" stores that attracted kids were also present. The movies theaters there that closed down were at best OK. Then with the closing of JCPenney, Tysons Corner Center took a hard pivot toward becoming an upscale mall and entertainment meca. Barnes and Noble moved in. The upscale movie theater with IMax opened, not to mention the upscale restaurants on the first floor. The arcade went bye-bye, and I think even Spencer's was gone for a few years before re-opening as a more upscale presence.

Why two Macy's so close to each other? That's an easy one.

1) Tysons Corner had Hecht's as an Anchor store
2) Tysons Galleria opened with Macy's
3) Macy's bought Hecht's and rebranded all existing stores to Macy's.
4) It was sustainable and even profitable to have two Macy's operating so close to each other before the Internet

The Galleria will be fine. It went super upscale in response to Tysons I becoming more upscale. And its in the right market for that to work. Not where I go to shop, but there's lots of fancy folk in the area that demand only the finest.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: growing up around both ()
Date: June 13, 2019 12:44AM

AnthonyCumia Wrote:
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> Why was Tysons Galleria built and why is Tysons
> Corner Center still open?
>
> Why two Macy's?
>
> Same owner!
>
> What the fuck?

Thanks for the trip through memory lane. We non-transplants need to do our part to share the history of the area.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: Ugrwm ()
Date: June 13, 2019 06:37AM

When was JCPenny a Tyson’s Corner tenant. The originals were Hechtz, Woodward & Lothrop and IIRC Landsberg which did not last and was replaced by Bloomingdales.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: Haji Bubu ()
Date: June 13, 2019 06:55AM

The public prayer room at Tyson's One is a real blessing.

My family and I use it nearly every weekend.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: growing up around both ()
Date: June 13, 2019 07:36AM

Ugrwm Wrote:
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> When was JCPenny a Tyson’s Corner tenant. The
> originals were Hechtz, Woodward & Lothrop and IIRC
> Landsberg which did not last and was replaced by
> Bloomingdales.

JCPenny took over the original Woodard & Lothrop spot.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: growing up around both ()
Date: June 13, 2019 07:37AM

growing up around both Wrote:
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> Ugrwm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When was JCPenny a Tyson’s Corner tenant. The
> > originals were Hechtz, Woodward & Lothrop and
> IIRC
> > Landsberg which did not last and was replaced
> by
> > Bloomingdales.
>
> JCPenny took over the original Woodard & Lothrop
> spot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodward_%26_Lothrop

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: wha wha what? ()
Date: June 13, 2019 08:11AM

AnthonyCumia Wrote:
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> HandyManSam Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > high school freshman lost their virginity
> there.
> > Now Tysons is the next great city or something.
> > Crazy local history.
>
> Can't be the next great city if your fucking
> streets don't have crosswalks painted on them.
>
> Take a look at Tysons Fucking Boulevard between
> Galleria Drive and Lillian Court. WTF?


there are crosswalks on the streets there, ones with timed crosswalk lights. you can see them on google maps.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: Back in the day... ()
Date: June 13, 2019 08:16AM

Plenty of holes in the memories and alleged hindsight of the non-transplants, many of whom were not born yet when the original Tyson's Corner Center opened. The Magic Pan had come and gone already by the time many of these ever became Mall Rats.

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: [deleted] ()
Date: June 13, 2019 01:51PM

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: AARPer ()
Date: June 13, 2019 05:01PM

Back in the day... Wrote:
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> Plenty of holes in the memories and alleged
> hindsight of the non-transplants, many of whom
> were not born yet when the original Tyson's Corner
> Center opened. The Magic Pan had come and gone
> already by the time many of these ever became Mall
> Rats.


Remember the Giant Food?
Attachments:
Giant @ Tysons.jpg1.jpg

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Re: Why was Tysons Galleria built?
Posted by: neat photo ()
Date: June 13, 2019 06:09PM

AARPer Wrote:
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> Remember the Giant Food?


Is that where the Circuit City used to be?

That's a cool pic, it looks like there was a neighborhood full of houses where Tycon Tower is now. Never knew that.

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