All,

FairfaxUnderground.com was down from 09:30am until 2:10pm today, Monday March 1st.

This outage was caused by my ISP (PullThePlug Inc. aka PRYME Technologies) null routing the IP address that the fairfaxunderground.com domain resolves to (209.9.228.66) due to an abuse complaint.

The abuse complaint was NOT in regards to any user generated posting but rather because of an arrest list entry. I have gone to great lengths to explain that the arrest list data replicated here is simply a mirror of the authoritative data provided by the Fairfax County Police Department AND not user-generated and therefore possibly libelous.

Needless to say I am more than disappointed and will likely be changing hosts. I have personally worked in the Network Abuse field for a Fortune 500 ISP and believe that this action shows great ineptitude by my current ISP to accept a third-party's complaint and take negative action against their customer without proper research.

I am currently waiting for a call back from my ISP and will expand upon this post if the results are not beneficial. Hopefully we can come to am amicable conclusion to save more downtime of changing hosts.

If anyone has any questions, suggestions or requests please let me know.

- Cary
--Curator, FairfaxUnderground.com

edit by Cary: This server was again down today, 4/15/10, from 6:00pm - 7:00pm EDT for the same abuse issue. This should not reoccur.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2010 07:08PM by Cary.

I'd love to know who got arrested so we can give him the attention he is due.

Thanks for the explanation, big boy.
Most were lost w/o this place, I know.
The trolls had no one to gather infoz and form false identities on.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/01/2010 02:51PM by Elle Diabla.

It seems totally unprofessional for them to "pull the plug" on your server without contacting you first to resolve the issue. What a ridiculous way to conduct business.

what should have happened


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what did happen
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so if you do change hosts, everything will stay the same except for your provider? they cant make you change how people post on here can they? is it possible for personal information to become "lost" or exchanged during this transfer?


thank you and best of luck.
sincerely,

bb

I have a feeling it was this guy. ------> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/309012/309913.html#msg-309913

go get em C

Elle Diabla Wrote:
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> Most were lost w/o this place, I know.
> The trolls had no one to gather infoz and form
> false identities on.


I'm sure eesh had a mental breakdown.

The person must have threatened legal action or at least gone through a lawyer. Taking down a site for a single complaint is really extreme.

was it a one Colleen Lindvall that brought this site down?

Für eine Sekunde dachte ich, die Apokalypse auf uns sowohl mit FFXU und dem PS3-Netz wird nach unten.

bump

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> bump


+1

Cary, is the name of the ISP not a little bit ironic in this situation?

Cary,

Uploaded images can't be viewed. Embedded videos and hotlinked pics are fine, but it is just a .jpg link where the uploaded image should be. When I click it, it takes me to the main page of FFXU.

eesh,

Thanks for noticing that. I'm in the process of making some background code changes to make floods from a single IP less disruptive and must have broken that functionality.

It has been restored, thank you.

- Cary (the admin)

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Cary, is the name of the ISP not a little bit
> ironic in this situation?

if that's what irony was, then yes! unfortunately, that is not the case.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis Wrote:
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> KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Cary, is the name of the ISP not a little bit
> > ironic in this situation?
>
> if that's what irony was, then yes! unfortunately,
> that is not the case.


I'm confused.

eesh Wrote:
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> Cary,
>
> Uploaded images can't be viewed. Embedded videos
> and hotlinked pics are fine, but it is just a .jpg
> link where the uploaded image should be. When I
> click it, it takes me to the main page of FFXU.
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He's saying that the name of the ISP is not ironic...

Here's a related link:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> I'm confused.

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
> > > Cary, is the name of the ISP not a little bit
> > > ironic in this situation?
> >
> > if that's what irony was, then yes!
> unfortunately,
> > that is not the case.
>
>
> I'm confused.

the name would be apt, not ironic. it's completely the opposite of irony.

---

english motherfuckers, learn fucking english. >_<


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis Wrote:
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> english motherfuckers
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Is it not ironic that an ISP chose a name that, in the event, has proven to be so apt?

Moreover, the doubtless unintentional aptness of the name "PullThePlug" would be unremarkable but for these ironic overtones.

Thus we see that KeepOnTruckin, that "wise old head," has ultimately touched upon a far deeper, more profound insight than the literally correct but ultimately shallow interpretation of Messrs. Gravis and Tuttle.

It is the difference between analysis as performed by a robot, or a trained monkey, versus analysis by a human being.

In short, a living analysis - open to unexpected proliferations of energy and beauty - versus a zombie analysis, that is fundamentally dead.

Is it not written: Let the dead bury their dead?

Indeed, we see here illustrated that the dead cannot help but doing so -- it is, in the end, all they are really capable of.

Meanwhile, the living among us would do well to spend as little time as possible contemplating this sad spectacle, lest we become disheartened.

How ironic, then, that the unjustly criticized, altogether aptly named poster points, with characteristically vigorous and earthy wisdom, the way forward out of this morass of dead souls, these plodding, pedantic denizens of Hell who would hinder our progress into the light:

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Great work as per usual, GFSF!

This is, however, a rare moment where I'd prefer you'd kept my name out of your literature. I was not asserting that the name lacked irony (Nor was I asserting it didn't). My intentions were only to clarify the current situation to, an admittedly confused, Mr. OnTruckin.

Despite this gross misunderstanding, the egomaniac behind the name "Tuttle" is still honored to be mentioned by you...

Apt 3G Wrote:
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> Is it not ironic that an ISP chose a name that, in
> the event, has proven to be so apt?
>
> Moreover, the doubtless unintentional aptness of
> the name "PullThePlug" would be unremarkable but
> for these ironic overtones.
>
> Thus we see that KeepOnTruckin, that "wise old
> head," has ultimately touched upon a far deeper,
> more profound insight than the literally correct
> but ultimately shallow interpretation of Messrs.
> Gravis and Tuttle.
>
> It is the difference between analysis as performed
> by a robot, or a trained monkey, versus analysis
> by a human being.
>
> In short, a living analysis - open to unexpected
> proliferations of energy and beauty - versus a
> zombie analysis, that is fundamentally dead.
>
> Is it not written: Let the dead bury their dead?
>
> Indeed, we see here illustrated that the dead
> cannot help but doing so -- it is, in the end, all
> they are really capable of.
>
> Meanwhile, the living among us would do well to
> spend as little time as possible contemplating
> this sad spectacle, lest we become disheartened.
>
> How ironic, then, that the unjustly criticized,
> altogether aptly named poster points, with
> characteristically vigorous and earthy wisdom, the
> way forward out of this morass of dead souls,
> these plodding, pedantic denizens of Hell who
> would hinder our progress into the light:
>
> .

Apt 3G Wrote:
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> Is it not written: Let the dead bury their dead?
>
> Indeed, we see here illustrated that the dead
> cannot help but doing so -- it is, in the end, all
> they are really capable of.

if you understood the context then you would know that Jesus ways saying that if the man was spiritually dead then should bury his physically dead father.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Well fuck, if we're just arguing semantics then it's not so confusing, just unnecessary

Gravux Wrote:
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> if you understood the context then you would know that
> Jesus ways saying that if the man was spiritually dead
> then should bury his physically dead father.

That's a perfectly good interpretation of the passage within its immediate context.

I would, however, object to your implied limitation of the text to its literal meaning only. Traditionally, interpreters distinguish four different senses or levels of meaning inherent in the Scriptures: literal, allegorical, moral, and anagogical (as explained briefly here http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a3.htm#115 and here http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2005/0504fea1sb2.asp, and in somewhat more detail here http://www.catholicmatch.com/pl/pages/articles/details.html?ra=1;article_id=679). This four-sense approach is itself derived from Scripture, for example, St. Paul's interpretation of Exodus according to its various senses in 1 Corinthians 10.

Thus, for example, just as we might properly apply the moral teaching of the Good Samaritan narrative to circumstances involving non-Samaritans, non-Levites, etc, so too the moral teaching of Luke 9:60 may be applied to illuminate both the futility and wrongheadedness of Zombie Exegesis.®


KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Well fuck, if we're just arguing semantics then it's not so confusing, just unnecessary

It would be unnecessary if the distinction between "ironic" and "apt" was merely semantic, but it is not. The words mean two different things.


Harry "The Obfuscator" Tuttle Wrote:
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> I was not asserting that the name lacked irony (Nor was
> I asserting it didn't).

Of course, dear Harry, of course...

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thats the guy!

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Well fuck, if we're just arguing semantics then
> it's not so confusing, just unnecessary

definitions of words are not semantics. your statement was completely the opposite of what you meant.

Quote
some genius
i cant believe she broke up with me because i said she was a stupid fucking whore. i mean, come on, she knew what i meant, it's just semantics!

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Apt 3G Wrote:
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> Gravux Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > if you understood the context then you would
> know that
> > Jesus ways saying that if the man was
> spiritually dead
> > then should bury his physically dead father.
>
> That's a perfectly good interpretation of the
> passage within its immediate context.

to take it out of context to "prove" something completely different is to invent.


> I would, however, object to your implied
> limitation of the text to its literal meaning
> only.

object all you like because your argument is moot.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2010 10:11AM by Gravis.

Gravis Wrote:
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> to take it out of context to "prove" something
> completely different is to invent.

The parables and sayings of Jesus have always been applied metaphorically, and quite properly so. Indeed, it would be an absurd limitation on the meaning of Scripture, and render the texts largely useless, to limit them to the narrow literalistic sense you're suggesting.

As already noted, the practice of applying the non-literal meaning of Scripture is engaged in by Paul (1 Cor 10 and elsewhere), as well as Peter (1 Peter 3:20-21), and Jesus Himself (Matthew 12:1-4).

As indicated by these examples, it's not a question of taking the text out of context, or "inventing" something, but rather of applying the meaning of a particular Scriptural teaching to a new factual situation or circumstance.

Now, of course it can be argued that any given, specific application is inapt or wrong. The more cynical among us might suppose that the term Zombie Exegesis® was tongue-in-cheek. But that's a very different thing than saying such readings are per se out of bounds.

Apt 3G,
   at no point was your application of the verse even remotely relevant. you are wrong and it's as simple as that.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis Wrote:
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> Apt 3G,
>    at no point was your application
> of the verse even remotely relevant. you are
> wrong and it's as simple as that.


If you think my application of the verse was wrong, that's fine.

I was more interested in addressing the question of interpretation generally, as your 11:51pm post, taken in isolation, seemed to suggest (and I may have misconstrued you here) an overly narrow approach to a rather important subject.

Apt 3G Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Apt 3G,
> >    at no point was your
> application
> > of the verse even remotely relevant. you are
> > wrong and it's as simple as that.
>
>
> If you think my application of the verse was
> wrong, that's fine.

it's not even an opinion, it's an inescapable fact similar to how gravity is not open to interpretation.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis Wrote:
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> it's not even an opinion, it's an inescapable fact
> similar to how gravity is not open to interpretation.


Literary interpretation vs. scientific facts?

You're comparing apples and oranges.

I will not dispute that I prefer to dwell in the chasm between black and white, often placing the burden of interpretation on the uncomfortable reader. Thus, the conclusion drawn from my statement is less a reflection of my opinions than it is a reflection of the reader's perspective.

I am, however, puzzled by the message conveyed by your AATF2 picture. What exactly is the crime that I am suspected of committing? Is my crime apathy towards the unnecessary condescension of Gravis in response to an innocent, and rather temperate, question?

Perhaps I should've picked up my weapons and battled this perceived offense by demonizing (or, rather, Zombifying) the offender(s) in a similarly condescending, yet much more poetic, manner... Perhaps I should've taken justice into my own hands, much like a lawless vigilante, disheartened by a lack of faith in "The System"...

How effective is it to battle violence with violence... or to battle "rank duplicity" with "rank duplicity"? Where does it all end?

Perhaps my subtle commentary, via Dave MacDowell's excellent painting, was insufficient in conveying my true opinion of the situation. If that's the case, then I suppose we should all be thankful to have you as a messenger of Justice, Apt 3G. BTB, Nice name

I suppose, while in my new-found confinements, I can rest easy knowing that the moral integrity of the world rests in your hands...



Apt 3G Wrote:
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>
> Harry "The Obfuscator" Tuttle Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I was not asserting that the name lacked irony
> (Nor was
> > I asserting it didn't).
>
> Of course, dear Harry, of course...
>
> [AATF2]

Edit: a minor touch-up.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2010 09:21PM by Harry Tuttle.

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> I will not argue that I prefer to dwell in the
> chasm between black and white, often placing the
> burden of interpretation on the uncomfortable
> reader. Thus, the conclusion drawn from my
> statement is less a reflection of my opinions than
> it is a reflection of the reader's perspective.
>
> I am, however, puzzled by the message conveyed by
> your AATF2 picture. What exactly is the crime that
> I am suspected of committing? Is my crime apathy
> towards the unnecessary condescension of Gravis in
> response to an innocent, and rather temperate,
> question?
>
> Perhaps I should've picked up my weapons and
> battled this perceived offense by demonizing (or,
> rather, Zombifying) the offender(s) in a similarly
> condescending, yet much more poetic, manner...
> Perhaps I should've taken justice into my own
> hands, much like a lawless vigilante, disheartened
> by a lack of faith in "The System"...
>
> How effective is it to battle violence with
> violence... or to battle "rank duplicity" with
> "rank duplicity"? Where does it all end?
>
> Perhaps my subtle commentary, via Dave MacDowell's
> excellent painting, was insufficient in conveying
> my true opinion of the situation. If that's the
> case, then I suppose we should all be thankful to
> have you as a messenger of Justice, Apt 3G. BTB,
> Nice name
>
> I suppose, while in my new-found confinements, I
> can rest easy knowing that the moral integrity of
> the world rests in your hands...
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Thank you for your insight waah!!!!!!!!!!, you fucking doody head, but I am more fond of this picture.

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> Thank you for your insight waah!!!!!!!!!!, you
> fucking doody head, but I am more fond of this
> picture.
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Gravis Wrote:
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> KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> -----
> > Well fuck, if we're just arguing semantics then
> > it's not so confusing, just unnecessary
>
> definitions of words are not semantics. your
> statement was completely the opposite of what you
> meant.
>
>


Shit, I can't even recover from this one

4/15 and no FFXU. Wha' happened?

Edit: Ah...read the edited first post.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2010 04:00AM by Eastsider.

Someone still complaining about being on the arrest list?

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> Someone still complaining about being on the
> arrest list?

not sure... but apparently FU has a Captain Ahab on the restless seas of the internet.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

all you guys enjoy fairfaxunderground forum waaaay too much.
carry on as you were

I think keepontrukin was saying that since you're ISP is supposed to service your needs with internet as a provider that it's quite a bit ironic that it's name is pulltheplug, and it just so happens that the plugged was pulled, so I guess that's ironic, but the real meaning is lost to me now since I've thought about this waaay too much that it is apt because it actually did. so i suppose it's apt it's name is pull the plug and fitting they did, but also ironic because it's necessary that they do provide a service and they don't, but also because it's name is pulltheplug and couldn't do anything about it.

Juxtaposition Wrote:
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> I think keepontrukin was saying that since you're
> ISP is supposed to service your needs with
> internet as a provider that it's quite a bit
> ironic that it's name is pulltheplug, and it just
> so happens that the plugged was pulled, so I guess
> that's ironic, but the real meaning is lost to me
> now since I've thought about this waaay too much
> that it is apt because it actually did. so i
> suppose it's apt it's name is pull the plug and
> fitting they did, but also ironic because it's
> necessary that they do provide a service and they
> don't, but also because it's name is pulltheplug
> and couldn't do anything about it.
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that's what i say everytime I read this stuff. I find fairfaxunderground.com is humerous, i think everybody's a comedian lol

Juxtaposition Wrote:
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> all you guys enjoy fairfaxunderground forum waaaay
> too much.
> carry on as you were


anonymous fairy faggot post

WTF happened over the last two days? People were posting on craigslist about it, topix.com, and over at Elle Diabla's site.

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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

For information regarding the massive outage that affected this site from Wednesday, March 12 until Friday March 14 please see this thread: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/347476.html

- Cary
--Curator, FairfaxUnderground.com