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More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: The Taxpayer ()
Date: April 07, 2019 10:14AM

https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/fire-chief-demotes-captain-accused-of-sticking-fingers-up-recruit-s-butt-IWDCPqEP0U6XbWFYWH2jHA/

And only received a demotion.

People go to prison for this in other states and counties.

Why weren’t criminal charges filed?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Got Stinky Fingers? ()
Date: April 07, 2019 10:23AM

Has Fairfax Underground been implicated in the act?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Stinkybottle ()
Date: April 07, 2019 11:36AM

That stuff happens all the time. I've seen coke bottles shoved up the butt of probies and much worse but that was Fire Chiefs ago so no one cared about abuse then.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Firehouse Subs ()
Date: April 07, 2019 12:34PM

And the people at FCFD have the nerve to call users of FFXU deranged and perverted? Fuck that. That's Hypocrisy to the X 10. This is the sort of thing that happens when you hire a negro fire chief. Bedlam and criminal activity amongst a once proud institution becomes rampant.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Insert your thought ()
Date: April 07, 2019 12:52PM

Got Stinky Fingers? Wrote:
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> Has Fairfax Underground been implicated in the
> act?


Not yet, but Joe Biden has been seen lurking around some of the training locations.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: MightBeAPerv ()
Date: April 07, 2019 01:20PM

Did he sniff his fingers?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: LOLer ()
Date: April 07, 2019 01:29PM

MightBeAPerv Wrote:
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> Did he sniff his fingers?


LOL I was wondering that myself. I bet he did. He probably tasted the fingers afterwards as well. Sick fuck.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Yum smell ()
Date: April 07, 2019 01:41PM

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: PERVERTS ()
Date: April 07, 2019 03:44PM

The Taxpayer Wrote:
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> https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/fire-
> chief-demotes-captain-accused-of-sticking-fingers-
> up-recruit-s-butt-IWDCPqEP0U6XbWFYWH2jHA/
>
> And only received a demotion.
>
> People go to prison for this in other states and
> counties.
>
> Why weren’t criminal charges filed?

I'm guessing the victim was too afraid of how she would be treated and was certain she'd lose her job.

This dept. has had major issues regarding objectification of women for the past 20+ years.

It's accepted. It's also disgusting but from what I've seen with my own eyes nothing will change because the worst that happens is a demotion. This person should have been fired.

They know they can get away with it so they will continue to. Do any of you really want these people in your homes? I do not. I don't want them around my daughters, that's for sure.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: jeffjeffjeff ()
Date: April 07, 2019 04:02PM

we all know jeff is the guy. any body know who the recruit was?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: kmxth ()
Date: April 07, 2019 04:14PM

PERVERTS Wrote:
> They know they can get away with it so they will
> continue to. Do any of you really want these
> people in your homes? I do not. I don't want
> them around my daughters, that's for sure.

That's a legit concern because he is a medic so his demotion could put him in a position where he would be touching your daughters.

He is on the executive board of the union and went after Kathleen Stanley. It all adds up to a shit show in my opinion and none of it should be tolerated.

He should resign. I feel sorry for his wife and kid.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: question 101 ()
Date: April 07, 2019 04:15PM

What bar did the probing occur?

Perhaps it was Bar Louis - The Gastro Bar

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Was it in Clifton? ()
Date: April 07, 2019 04:33PM

Or involve Bob Malm?

Sorry, just kidding. ;-)

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: isittrue? ()
Date: April 07, 2019 06:12PM

All these people are calling for him to be fired or to resign but is that rly the culture they want to create? From the news article it said the Capt denied the event and no witnesses have corroborated it. I'm not saying it didn't happen but lets think about this logically. If A) no one saw it and B) the accused is denying the event then that's enough proof it occurred and the person deserves to be disciplined or fired? Maybe there are other facts that are being kept out of the news.

I guess this doesn't surprise me since the last professional standards "Guy" said if there was a 50/50 chance the alleged event occurred then the person was guilty in the eyes of the department and discipline was handed out. No wonder so many people get their jobs back after the civil service board.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: #Me Too ()
Date: April 07, 2019 07:09PM

Let’s ask some questions....

Why wasn’t this investigated by the police?
Why wasn’t the case screened with the Commonwealth Attorney’s office?

Normally, we could apply the “not guilty” standard to someone who’s the accused in the United States but that doesn’t count in this case. Instead, the Fairfax County Fire Department decided to circumvent the criminal justice system by handling a sexual assault “in house.”

The facts....
1. That this was an administrative investigation, not criminal.
2. That Fairfax County Fire Department circumvented thé criminal justice system by hiding sexual assault cases from the courts and police.
3. That he was found guilty based on the evidence or chose to accept a plea in a hearing.
4. That the most that happened to him was a demotion.
5. That rape culture prevails because the most that happens to someone is a demotion. A demotion for forcefully digitally penetrating a victims anus.
6. That it’s likely the victim will sue and get paid taxpayer funds for her case.
7. No policy changes or outrage from Fairfax County Board of Supervisor’s.
8. That leakers are still snitching internal incidents to the news because the county wants to hide it all.
9. That the accused has not had his paramedic license revoked and he can touch your daughter.
10. That someone in another state would end up on a sex offender registry for committing this act.
11. The victim still has to work there knowing that very little happened to him for this, and might see him again reliving her experience.
12. That there’s no guarantee this won’t happen again because the accused wasn’t prosecuted criminally.

Trying to blame Fairfax Underground for rape culture won’t stop leakers from telling the news about actual incidents occurring in the department.

It’s likely lawsuits will bankrupt the department there and they will have less money for glass firehouses and worldwide response teams.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: IFitWALKSlikeAduck ()
Date: April 07, 2019 07:10PM

isittrue? Wrote:
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> All these people are calling for him to be fired
> or to resign but is that rly the culture they want
> to create? From the news article it said the Capt
> denied the event and no witnesses have
> corroborated it. I'm not saying it didn't happen
> but lets think about this logically. If A) no one
> saw it and B) the accused is denying the event
> then that's enough proof it occurred and the
> person deserves to be disciplined or fired? Maybe
> there are other facts that are being kept out of
> the news.
>
> I guess this doesn't surprise me since the last
> professional standards "Guy" said if there was a
> 50/50 chance the alleged event occurred then the
> person was guilty in the eyes of the department
> and discipline was handed out. No wonder so many
> people get their jobs back after the civil service
> board.

Do you know Jeff? Ever spent much time with him and seen his attitude first hand?

These are the findings by his own department... The allegations were investigated by the Fairfax County Office Human Rights and Equity Programs (OHREP) in December of 2018 and that office determined there was enough evidence to find the complaint credible, WUSA reported.

OHREP issued a “cause finding,” which meant they found enough probable cause to believe the complaint.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: #Me Too ()
Date: April 07, 2019 07:21PM

The questions still stand. I don’t care what the name is of the accused.

The Office of Human Rights and Equality Programs has the responsibility to report this to the police do they not? Who pays their salary?

If someone comes to them with the report of a rape, would it not be reported to police? Why is this any different? They wouldn’t get their jobs back from the civil service board if they are in prison and registered as a sex offender.

Looks like another case of the county failing to cover up felony offenses occurring there. The Office of Human Rights and Equality Programs shouldn’t investigate anything if a crime was committed and a trial hasn’t occurred.

Or did the Commonwealth Attorney declined to prosecute?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: dvdfe ()
Date: April 07, 2019 08:01PM

#Me Too Wrote:> 10. That someone in another state would end up on
> a sex offender registry for committing this act.

Is this true? No, I didn't google it. I was just surprised and I'm asking. I think it's a violation and completely wrong but was not aware that this would cause someone to have to register as a sex offender.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: PERVERTS ()
Date: April 07, 2019 08:07PM

#Me Too Wrote:
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> The questions still stand. I don’t care what the
> name is of the accused.

I'm glad I know his name and what he looks like because if he ever enters my home and I see his name I will ask for another medic. If you don't care what his character is like then by all means, let him work on you or your family. No thank you when it come to me and mine.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: surfturfbuffet ()
Date: April 07, 2019 08:27PM

Wearing a buttplug would have prevented all of this.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Ron Kuley ()
Date: April 07, 2019 09:50PM

You guys need to stop talking about this. This is a good man that has been shamed. Any time a union brother gets unfairly accused like this it's a stain on all of us. We all know it didn't happen.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: jv74d ()
Date: April 07, 2019 10:55PM

Ron Kuley Wrote:
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> You guys need to stop talking about this. This is
> a good man that has been shamed. Any time a union
> brother gets unfairly accused like this it's a
> stain on all of us. We all know it didn't happen.

insert eye roll here and you can bet your ass we will continue to talk about it, draw attention to it and try to prevent it from ever happening again. if he didn't do anything he has nothing to worry about

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: vhewu ()
Date: April 08, 2019 09:19AM

The Taxpayer Wrote:
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> https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/fire-
> chief-demotes-captain-accused-of-sticking-fingers-
> up-recruit-s-butt-IWDCPqEP0U6XbWFYWH2jHA/
>
> And only received a demotion.
>
> People go to prison for this in other states and
> counties.
>
> Why weren’t criminal charges filed?

If you read the article it appears that the victim is not the one who reported the incident. She shared it with another captain and it was that captain who reported it. She would have had to report it to local police and press charges for criminal charges to be filed. Often a victim is too afraid of losing their job to do that and since she was a recruit she was very new to the department. Going up against a captain may have been something she was afraid to do. No matter what happened it is all very disappointing and our country needs to do some real work in this area.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: No means No ()
Date: April 08, 2019 09:50AM

When a woman says no, it is wrong to continue with the advances.

Not all women are interested in having intimate contact in a public setting.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: teachyourchildrenwell ()
Date: April 08, 2019 10:34AM

No means No Wrote:
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> When a woman says no, it is wrong to continue with
> the advances.

Mothers, use this as a teaching moment for your children. NOTHING a woman does "invites" sticking your fingers in her behind other than her asking you to. It doesn't matter how she's dressed or how much she flirts. Making an unwanted physical advance is inviting her to press charges against you.

To the man accused of making this physical advance you are (or at least were at the time of the alleged incident) an officer. Try acting like one. Do you want to disgrace your department, not to mention your wife? Learn people, learn.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Not worryer abouter of it ()
Date: April 08, 2019 11:34AM

The guys at DDXCO FD are all gay, so I'm not worried about them near my daughters or wife.

The girls are all dykes, though, so I;m worried about them near my daughters or wife.

I am worried about them near my sons, though. too bad you can't specify no gay liberal fire fighters.

sorry 4 being redundant, I said "gay" liberal.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: saywhut ()
Date: April 08, 2019 12:19PM

Not worryer abouter of it Wrote:
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> The guys at DDXCO FD are all gay, so I'm not

WTF is DDXCO

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: yep ()
Date: April 08, 2019 12:21PM

Ron Kuley Wrote:
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> You guys need to stop talking about this. This is
> a good man that has been shamed. Any time a union
> brother gets unfairly accused like this it's a
> stain on all of us. We all know it didn't happen.

The ironic part about this is that to me it sounds like something Ron would say, just add a few f bombs in it

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Too Early? ()
Date: April 08, 2019 12:32PM

teachyourchildrenwell Wrote:
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> No means No Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When a woman says no, it is wrong to continue
> with
> > the advances.
>
> Mothers, use this as a teaching moment for your
> children. NOTHING a woman does "invites" sticking
> your fingers in her behind other than her asking
> you to. It doesn't matter how she's dressed or
> how much she flirts. Making an unwanted physical
> advance is inviting her to press charges against
> you.
>
> To the man accused of making this physical advance
> you are (or at least were at the time of the
> alleged incident) an officer. Try acting like
> one. Do you want to disgrace your department, not
> to mention your wife? Learn people, learn.

A frank discussion at 10 years old?

Younger?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Haydn ()
Date: April 08, 2019 01:55PM

The pervert in question is said to be a Clifton resident. No surprise really.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: 7tmth ()
Date: April 08, 2019 04:12PM

I see no perversion whatsoever. The recruit must have been asking for something else to be inserted, into a different hole, and was disappointed that only a finger was used and the guy's aim was lousy. Either that or she had a huge gaping hole and he miscalculated the insertion trajectory.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: lhk6n ()
Date: April 08, 2019 05:51PM

Haydn Wrote:
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> The pervert in question is said to be a Clifton
> resident. No surprise really.

Funny. Centreville.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: whatttt ()
Date: April 08, 2019 05:53PM

Too Early? Wrote:
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> teachyourchildrenwell Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No means No Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > When a woman says no, it is wrong to continue
> > with
> > > the advances.
> >
> > Mothers, use this as a teaching moment for your
> > children. NOTHING a woman does "invites"
> sticking
> > your fingers in her behind other than her
> asking
> > you to. It doesn't matter how she's dressed or
> > how much she flirts. Making an unwanted
> physical
> > advance is inviting her to press charges
> against
> > you.
> >
> > To the man accused of making this physical
> advance
> > you are (or at least were at the time of the
> > alleged incident) an officer. Try acting like
> > one. Do you want to disgrace your department,
> not
> > to mention your wife? Learn people, learn.
>
> A frank discussion at 10 years old?
>
> Younger?

i dont see where they said to scare the crap out of a little kid. maybe 15 or so would be the right age? or are u saying his kid is 10? u pple lose me

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: definitionOFzero ()
Date: April 08, 2019 07:44PM

The Taxpayer Wrote:
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> https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/fire-
> chief-demotes-captain-accused-of-sticking-fingers-
> up-recruit-s-butt-IWDCPqEP0U6XbWFYWH2jHA/
>
> And only received a demotion.
>
> People go to prison for this in other states and
> counties.
>
> Why weren’t criminal charges filed?

Since his department has a "zero tolerance' policy and found reason for him to be demoted, why didn't they show zero tolerance and terminate him?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Not worryer abouter of it ()
Date: April 08, 2019 10:56PM

saywhut Wrote:
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> Not worryer abouter of it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The guys at DDXCO FD are all gay, so I'm not
>
> WTF is DDXCO


I wUz drumk Wen I poAsTedd it. &youknow whaT? I'm stiLL drumk. &imhoerhf ry shtoidy nore djor

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: itscalledhonor ()
Date: April 10, 2019 12:14AM

The Taxpayer Wrote:
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> https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/fire-
> chief-demotes-captain-accused-of-sticking-fingers-
> up-recruit-s-butt-IWDCPqEP0U6XbWFYWH2jHA/
>
> And only received a demotion.
>
> People go to prison for this in other states and
> counties.
>
> Why weren’t criminal charges filed?

Why aren't the officers in up in arms over this? Aren't they tired of looking bad in the local news and beyond? Enough already. Fix your issues. Take a stand. Make a change. Do those of you who work hard to make it a department you can be proud of appreciate someone using it as an inappropriate playground?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Ron Kuley ()
Date: April 10, 2019 07:24AM

itscalledhonor Wrote:
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> The Taxpayer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/fire-
>
> >
> chief-demotes-captain-accused-of-sticking-fingers-
>
> > up-recruit-s-butt-IWDCPqEP0U6XbWFYWH2jHA/
> >
> > And only received a demotion.
> >
> > People go to prison for this in other states
> and
> > counties.
> >
> > Why weren’t criminal charges filed?
>
> Why aren't the officers in up in arms over this?
> Aren't they tired of looking bad in the local news
> and beyond? Enough already. Fix your issues.
> Take a stand. Make a change. Do those of you who
> work hard to make it a department you can be proud
> of appreciate someone using it as an inappropriate
> playground?


Many of our brothers are indeed very upset about this. You have to understand that anyone can make any allegation against any union brother at any time, regardless of actual facts or circumstances. If you have concerns you need to reach out to your station rep or me.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: wubew ()
Date: April 10, 2019 10:46AM

Ron Kuley Wrote:
> Many of our brothers are indeed very upset about
> this. You have to understand that anyone can make
> any allegation against any union brother at any
> time, regardless of actual facts or circumstances.
> If you have concerns you need to reach out to your
> station rep or me.

Mr. Kuley how do you handle a complaint when it is made against a member of the board of your union? From the news articles linked that is the case in this "french press" allegation.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Hellooooooooooo ()
Date: April 10, 2019 07:25PM

wubew Wrote:
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> Ron Kuley Wrote:
> > Many of our brothers are indeed very upset
> about
> > this. You have to understand that anyone can
> make
> > any allegation against any union brother at any
> > time, regardless of actual facts or
> circumstances.
> > If you have concerns you need to reach out to
> your
> > station rep or me.
>
> Mr. Kuley how do you handle a complaint when it is
> made against a member of the board of your union?
> From the news articles linked that is the case in
> this "french press" allegation.

Ron, oh Ron, where are you? Not gonna answer the question?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: dxnkv ()
Date: April 10, 2019 08:35PM

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Hellooooooooooo ()
Date: April 11, 2019 01:43PM

Hellooooooooooo Wrote:
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> wubew Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ron Kuley Wrote:
> > > Many of our brothers are indeed very upset
> > about
> > > this. You have to understand that anyone can
> > make
> > > any allegation against any union brother at
> any
> > > time, regardless of actual facts or
> > circumstances.
> > > If you have concerns you need to reach out to
> > your
> > > station rep or me.
> >
> > Mr. Kuley how do you handle a complaint when it
> is
> > made against a member of the board of your
> union?
> > From the news articles linked that is the case
> in
> > this "french press" allegation.
>
> Ron, oh Ron, where are you? Not gonna answer the
> question?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Meghan ()
Date: April 11, 2019 08:10PM

Ron Kuley is a bigger piece of shit than Jeff is.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: xcmje ()
Date: April 11, 2019 10:05PM

Meghan Wrote:
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> Ron Kuley is a bigger piece of shit than Jeff is.

Do tell... why?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: Justice for all ()
Date: April 12, 2019 12:21AM

Time for law enforcement to open up an investigation. Anyone want to guess what the penalty would be if he were found guilty in court?

What was alleged to have occurred here is a serious felony.

Maybe the Board of Supervisor’s aren’t interested in holding employees accountable. Just another day of tax dollars being spent. I hope the victim sues and gets paid.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter4/section18.2-67.2/

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: anyupdates ()
Date: April 16, 2019 09:54AM

Justice for all Wrote:
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> Time for law enforcement to open up an
> investigation. Anyone want to guess what the
> penalty would be if he were found guilty in court?
>
>
> What was alleged to have occurred here is a
> serious felony.
>
> Maybe the Board of Supervisor’s aren’t
> interested in holding employees accountable. Just
> another day of tax dollars being spent. I hope the
> victim sues and gets paid.
>
> https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chap
> ter4/section18.2-67.2/

Any updates on this one?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: anyupdates ()
Date: April 16, 2019 08:35PM

anyupdates Wrote:
> Any updates on this one?

Should I take that as a "no"? It's okay, I'll keep bumping.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: _Tarlton_ ()
Date: April 16, 2019 10:02PM

What a shit show.

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: writer ()
Date: April 19, 2019 10:35AM

There is an Election coming up for a new Chair of the Board of Supervisors -- Primary in June -- why not ask the candidates what they think should be done?

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Re: More Mayhem at Fairfax County Fire
Posted by: 2068 ()
Date: April 19, 2019 01:30PM

IAFF International Association of FireFighters or International Association of Fingerfuckers. Asking the current candidates for the Chairman Person position or anyone running to fill a board seat will give you the safe answer you want to hear. This is how Democrats cover things up. IF you were in a mall and did that to a woman you would have charges brought on you. This guy is a union paying member and the union supports the democrats. Shame on you all

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