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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: personally ()
Date: February 12, 2019 04:35PM

FIFY :) Wrote:
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> > .Combat Vet Wrote:
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> > > So, getting shot is a cool way to go.
> >
> >
> > Is this supposed (to) be intelligent? Because
> it's not.
>
>
>
> Gotta die some how.


I've found over the years that when some asshat thinks he's smart by correcting grammar they usually aren't.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: English As A Second Language ()
Date: February 12, 2019 04:45PM

personally Wrote:
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> FIFY :) Wrote:
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> > that's a lack of Wrote:
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> > > .Combat Vet Wrote:
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, getting shot is a cool way to go.
> > >
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> > > Is this supposed (to) be intelligent? Because
> > it's not.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gotta die some how.
>
>
> I've found over the years that when some asshat
> thinks he's smart by correcting grammar they
> usually aren't.


Naw, just adding a preposition (to)complete a sentence.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 12, 2019 05:35PM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> Typically stupid arguments. We have gone to great
> lengths over the years to improve automobile and
> highway safety in order to reduce the harm that
> travel in them might do. We do the same for
> trucks, trains, boats, and planes. Let's go that
> same extra mile with guns. We have a whole lot of
> work to do there.


That's a bullshit argument. Vehicles have been made safer for their operators and other occupants not those in front of them. Guns have also been made safer for their operators. But no amount of safety devices prevent the misuse of either. Just like when a 31-year-old French Tunisian who lived in France, zigzagged a truck at high speeds for more than a mile along a beachfront esplanade, instantly turning a festival atmosphere of fireworks and families into carnage. He killed at least 84 people and injured scores more, many of them small children.

SO PLEASE OH PLEASE STUPID ONE, tell us what vehicle safety device would have prevented those 84 deaths. Maybe we should ban assault vehicles. And in the end, guess what stopped the murderous terrorist?????

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The Facts ()
Date: February 12, 2019 06:14PM

Contrary to myth, the U.S. is not Death-and-destruction Central. Not only has the murder rate declined sharply in recently decades, but, in fact, we rank 99th in “intentional homicides” on a list of 191 nations—in the bottom 50 percent.
Moreover, there are countries with much stricter gun-control laws than the U.S. that nonetheless have higher murder rates, such as Mexico, Russia and Brazil. Other lands have high gun-ownership rates but low homicide levels; examples are Israel, New Zealand, Finland and Switzerland (which has among the world’s lowest murder rates).
Some will counter that we pale in comparison to other developed nations, such as the United Kingdom, which has both stricter gun-control laws and a lower homicide rate than the U.S. Yet history teaches, wrote Dr. Thomas Sowell in 2012, “that Britain has had a lower murder rate than the United States for more than two centuries—and, for most of that time, the British had no more stringent gun control laws than the United States.”
In fact, “The crime rate, including the rate of crimes committed with guns, is far higher in Britain now,” continued Sowell, “than it was back in the days when there were few restrictions on Britons buying firearms.”
Yet there’s more. Gun ownership is far more prevalent in New Hampshire, Vermont and North Dakota than in the U.K., yet all three states have lower murder rates than Britain.
Such examples abound—everywhere. As Sowell also informs, “Gun ownership has been three times as high in Switzerland as in Germany, but the Swiss have had lower murder rates.” Moreover, he writes that “the rate of gun ownership…is higher in rural areas than in urban areas, but the murder rate is higher in urban areas. The rate of gun ownership is higher among whites than among blacks, but the murder rate is higher among blacks.”

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The Facts ()
Date: February 12, 2019 06:19PM

Of course, there is Japan, which has virtually nonexistent gun ownership and the world’s sixth-lowest murder rate (note: critics claim that due to the application of different criteria, Japan’s actual rate is twice the reported one). And one study indicated that things are, in fact, different with Japanese-descent citizens living in the gun-crazy U.S.
Their murder rate is half that of Japanese in Japan.
The reality? There simply is no correlation between stricter gun-control laws and lower murder rates. It doesn’t exist.
What correlation does? Some might have shrugged off a few of my earlier examples, saying, “Of course young people and city dwellers have higher homicide rates.” But that this is obvious gets at the point: “Guns are not the problem,” as Sowell opined, alluding to demographics.
“People are the problem…”
We see this across generations, too. In a 1785 letter, Thomas Jefferson advised his 15-year-old nephew that a gun should “be the constant companion of your walks.” For most of American history, boys were often taught to shoot while still children, and, frequently, “a youngster’s 12th or 14th birthday present was a shiny new .22-caliber rifle, given to him by his father,” wrote Professor Walter E. Williams in 2013. Oh, and admittedly, there was school shooting.
At school gun ranges, organized by school guns clubs.
And for this purpose boys would often bring their rifles to school with them—even in N.Y.C.—on the subways. Yet school shootings (the news-making variety) were unheard of.
This history is generally forgotten, though, and today “zero tolerance” policies have seen schoolchildren punished just for pointing their fingers like a firearm in our “gun free zones.” It’s an example of how our gun debate has become a thought-free zone of puerile, passion-spawned policy.
Then there are the double standards and hypocrisy. Just consider what happened when Project Veritas undercover operatives, posing as anti-gun activists, approached pro-gun-control journalists and requested they take a stand for the “cause” and erect lawn signs stating “THIS HOME IS PROUDLY GUN FREE.”
Not only did every one decline the free sign, but one columnist actually said, “I am on your side on this, but I’m just wondering if that’s not an invitation to somebody with a gun!”

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: A GunNut Confession ()
Date: February 12, 2019 09:20PM

I have personally found that using my sperm (after jacking off to Amateur porn videos) is great lubricant for reassembly of my Glocks. They rack so much easier.
Wearing one in a concealment holster makes me feel so naughty and sexy.
Have any of you guys ever tried this?

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: fdshfah ()
Date: February 12, 2019 09:40PM

A GunNut Confession Wrote:
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> I have personally found that using my sperm (after
> jacking off to Amateur porn videos) is great
> lubricant for reassembly of my Glocks. They rack
> so much easier.
> Wearing one in a concealment holster makes me feel
> so naughty and sexy.
> Have any of you guys ever tried this?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And there you have it folks the most intelligent response the Demonrats can come up with.

Is it a .22??? Because that's only size your little peepee may fit in.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Madness ()
Date: February 13, 2019 01:43AM

fdshfah Wrote:
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> A GunNut Confession Wrote:
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> > I have personally found that using my sperm
> (after
> > jacking off to Amateur porn videos) is great
> > lubricant for reassembly of my Glocks. They
> rack
> > so much easier.
> > Wearing one in a concealment holster makes me
> feel
> > so naughty and sexy.
> > Have any of you guys ever tried this?
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> And there you have it folks the most intelligent
> response the Demonrats can come up with.
>
> Is it a .22??? Because that's only size your
> little peepee may fit in.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And there you have people, another Republican that doesn’t comprehend what he reads. The jerk off said he lubricates his gun, nothing posted about fucking it. Only a sick fuck would try to visualize this.
Seek help

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Libs are fags ()
Date: February 13, 2019 02:02AM

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: English As A Second Language ()
Date: February 13, 2019 07:30AM

Madness Wrote:
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> fdshfah Wrote:
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> > A GunNut Confession Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I have personally found that using my sperm
> > (after
> > > jacking off to Amateur porn videos) is great
> > > lubricant for reassembly of my Glocks. They
> > rack
> > > so much easier.
> > > Wearing one in a concealment holster makes me
> > feel
> > > so naughty and sexy.
> > > Have any of you guys ever tried this?
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > And there you have it folks the most
> intelligent
> > response the Demonrats can come up with.
> >
> > Is it a .22??? Because that's only size your
> > little peepee may fit in.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> And there you have (it) people, another Republican that
> doesn’t comprehend what he reads. The jerk off
> said he lubricates his gun, nothing posted about
> fucking it. Only a sick fuck would try to
> visualize this.
> Seek help


Pronouns, people. Use them

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 13, 2019 08:20AM

Yes, let's start Wrote:
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> In order to know where to start, you should post
> actual fedgov numbers on how many murders are
> comitted with guns every year.

Not at all. You merely need to understand that the number of gun-related deaths (and injuries) in this country is absurdly and needlessly high. and that for the simple sake of harm-reduction, some combination of steps to reduce these numbers has already long been called for.

The rest is irrelevant blather and fluff taken up only by those who are too weak and insincere even to recognize the problem, much less to confront and actually deal with any of its implications. Like you, these cringers are ever eager to drag the discussion off into the weeds, never to return to the topic at hand again.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: He and They ()
Date: February 13, 2019 08:27AM

personally Wrote:
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> I've found over the years that when some asshat thinks he's
> smart by correcting grammar they usually aren't.

Your pronouns are in disagreement.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Smoke or Suck It........ ()
Date: February 13, 2019 09:19AM

An adult should be able to figure it out.
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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 13, 2019 09:28AM

DEMS = DIM WITS Wrote:
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> That's a bullshit argument. Vehicles have been made safer for
> their operators and other occupants not those in front of them.

Congratulations on having been so dumb as to have made that claim. Traffic is as much a flow as it is a series of discrete passing objects. Highway safety -- something that we invest heavily in -- is in large part about assuring the integrity and stability of that flow. The mission of NHTSA is to "Save lives, prevent injuries, and reduce vehicle-related crashes." Sound at all familiar?

> Guns have also been made safer for their operators.

Guns have one purpose and one purpose only -- to inflict instant death (or at least severe maiming) upon some often poorly chosen victim(s). Unfortunately, guns are quite good at this. Ask any ER nurse or physician about it.

> But no amount of safety devices prevent the misuse of either.

We are aware of the special challenges presented by madmen, but these are not the full extent of the problem. Let us achieve success at least in areas where success is most achievable,

> Just like when a 31-year-old French Tunisian who lived in
> France, zigzagged a truck at high speeds for more than a mile
> along a beachfront esplanade, instantly turning a festival
> atmosphere of fireworks and families into carnage. He killed
> at least 84 people and injured scores more, many of them small
> children. SO PLEASE OH PLEASE STUPID ONE, tell us what vehicle
> safety device would have prevented those 84 deaths. Maybe we
> should ban assault vehicles. And in the end, guess what stopped
> the murderous terrorist?????

REMINDER: You don't need to prevent every death to have had a positive effect. Preventing SOME is a better outcome than preventing NONE.

And of course you could simply visit far-off downtown DC to see an array of the sorts of vehicle barriers that exist. Park-like areas around the White House and Capitol offer quite a number of examples. Go check it out sometime.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 13, 2019 09:42AM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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>
> The rest is irrelevant blather and fluff taken up
> only by those who are too weak and insincere even
> to recognize the problem, much less to confront
> and actually deal with any of its implications.
> Like you, these cringers are ever eager to drag
> the discussion off into the weeds, never to return
> to the topic at hand again.

What is irrelevant blather and a total inability to recognize a problem (boarding on the delusional) is to blame the actions of people on an inanimate object. Instead of working to change the behavior of individuals your side only focuses millions of dollars each year on laws that will never solve the actual problem.

Your solutions are like taking an aspirin to cure brain cancer. It may make you feel a little better for a short period of time but will do absolutely nothing to cure the problem.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEM = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 13, 2019 09:47AM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> DEMS = DIM WITS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That's a bullshit argument. Vehicles have been
> made safer for
> > their operators and other occupants not those in
> front of them.
>
> Congratulations on having been so dumb as to have
> made that claim. Traffic is as much a flow as it
> is a series of discrete passing objects. Highway
> safety -- something that we invest heavily in --
> is in large part about assuring the integrity and
> stability of that flow. The mission of NHTSA is
> to "Save lives, prevent injuries, and reduce
> vehicle-related crashes." Sound at all familiar?
>
>
> > Guns have also been made safer for their
> operators.
>
> Guns have one purpose and one purpose only -- to
> inflict instant death (or at least severe maiming)
> upon some often poorly chosen victim(s).
> Unfortunately, guns are quite good at this. Ask
> any ER nurse or physician about it.
>
> > But no amount of safety devices prevent the
> misuse of either.
>
> We are aware of the special challenges presented
> by madmen, but these are not the full extent of
> the problem. Let us achieve success at least in
> areas where success is most achievable,
>
> > Just like when a 31-year-old French Tunisian who
> lived in
> > France, zigzagged a truck at high speeds for
> more than a mile
> > along a beachfront esplanade, instantly turning
> a festival
> > atmosphere of fireworks and families into
> carnage. He killed
> > at least 84 people and injured scores more, many
> of them small
> > children. SO PLEASE OH PLEASE STUPID ONE, tell
> us what vehicle
> > safety device would have prevented those 84
> deaths. Maybe we
> > should ban assault vehicles. And in the end,
> guess what stopped
> > the murderous terrorist?????
>
> REMINDER: You don't need to prevent every death
> to have had a positive effect. Preventing SOME is
> a better outcome than preventing NONE.
>
> And of course you could simply visit far-off
> downtown DC to see an array of the sorts of
> vehicle barriers that exist. Park-like areas
> around the White House and Capitol offer quite a
> number of examples. Go check it out sometime.

Vehicle barriers are a proactive defense against the misuse of an object. Much like hardening schools and arming teachers. Unlike the stupid solutions of your side which would be to BAN the vehicles or other objects just because someone may misuse them.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 13, 2019 09:48AM

The Facts Wrote:
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> Contrary to myth, the U.S. is not Death-and-destruction Central.

The facts are that in desperation you have 100% plagiarized a 2017 opinion piece actually written by Selwyn Duke, a "traditionalist" media personality whose work has appeared in The Hill, The American Conservative, World Net Daily and American Thinker. He -- like you -- is not a particularly credible source.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 13, 2019 09:53AM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> The Facts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Contrary to myth, the U.S. is not
> Death-and-destruction Central.
>
> The facts are that in desperation you have 100%
> plagiarized a 2017 opinion piece actually written
> by Selwyn Duke, a "traditionalist" media
> personality whose work has appeared in The Hill,
> The American Conservative, World Net Daily and
> American Thinker. He -- like you -- is not a
> particularly credible source.

Still better than you who has NO CREDIBILITY. Spewing bullshit from the bought and paid for hack so-called Dr Hemenway of the BLOOMBERG School of PROPAGANDA.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 13, 2019 10:29AM

DEMS = DIM WITS Wrote:
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> What is irrelevant blather and a total inability to recognize a
> problem (boarding on the delusional)...

Had you meant to type bordering?

> ...is to blame the actions of people on an inanimate object.

Where was that done? And where are your suggestions for how we might achieve at least some bit of harm-reduction with respect to the ridiculous numbers of gun-related deaths (and injuries) that we suffer each year in this country? In fact, you have come up with no ideas at all, which leads one to suspect that you simply DON'T CARE how many people are tragically and needlessly killed each year. 40,000 -- 50,000 -- 60,000 . Who cares.

> Instead of working to change the behavior of individuals
> your side only focuses millions of dollars each year on
> laws that will never solve the actual problem.

I was expecting to see the usual "mental health" canard here, but I'll simply ask why are there 'sides' at all when tens of thousands of lives are being lost? Is there a 'side' that actually SUPPORTS that?

> Your solutions are like taking an aspirin to cure
> brain cancer. It may make you feel a little better
> for a short period of time but will do absolutely
> nothing to cure the problem.

I haven't proposed any solutions. I have described the problem and noted that it is so severe that some sort of harm-reduction efforts would seem obligatory at this point. Apparently not to 'your side' however.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 13, 2019 10:56AM

DEM = DIM WITS Wrote:
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> Vehicle barriers are a proactive defense against the misuse
> of an object.

And how many of these barriers had been deployed along the esplanade in Nice? Your source did not say.

> Much like hardening schools and arming teachers.

Are you suggesting here that gun-related carnage can be diminished by turning our schools into bunkers and our teachers into prison guards, and that this is the direction we need to go in? Is that really the best you could come up with?

> Unlike the stupid solutions of your side which would be to
> BAN the vehicles or other objects just because someone may
> misuse them.

As your own 'solutions' leave so much to be desired, perhaps you should be working to improve those before turning to the exploration of potential holes in straw-man suggestions that others have not even put forward yet.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: fhfdh ()
Date: February 13, 2019 06:30PM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> DEM = DIM WITS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vehicle barriers are a proactive defense against
> the misuse
> > of an object.
>
> And how many of these barriers had been deployed
> along the esplanade in Nice? Your source did not
> say.
>
> > Much like hardening schools and arming teachers.
>
>
> Are you suggesting here that gun-related carnage
> can be diminished by turning our schools into
> bunkers and our teachers into prison guards, and
> that this is the direction we need to go in? Is
> that really the best you could come up with?
>

What exactly is your solution? I've seen a lot of bullshit from without any solution except guns are bad.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Posting Ain’t Contributing ()
Date: February 13, 2019 06:48PM

fhfdh Wrote:
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> GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > DEM = DIM WITS Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Vehicle barriers are a proactive defense
> against
> > the misuse
> > > of an object.
> >
> > And how many of these barriers had been
> deployed
> > along the esplanade in Nice? Your source did
> not
> > say.
> >
> > > Much like hardening schools and arming
> teachers.
> >
> >
> > Are you suggesting here that gun-related
> carnage
> > can be diminished by turning our schools into
> > bunkers and our teachers into prison guards,
> and
> > that this is the direction we need to go in?
> Is
> > that really the best you could come up with?
> >
>
> What exactly is your solution? I've seen a lot of
> bullshit from without any solution except guns are
> bad.

Guns are bad. A guns purpose is to destroy. Shooting paper targets is wimpy.
BTW, dicks aren’t for jerking off to porn, either

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 13, 2019 08:25PM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> DEM = DIM WITS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vehicle barriers are a proactive defense against
> the misuse
> > of an object.
>
> And how many of these barriers had been deployed
> along the esplanade in Nice? Your source did not
> say.
>
> > Much like hardening schools and arming teachers.
>
>
> Are you suggesting here that gun-related carnage
> can be diminished by turning our schools into
> bunkers and our teachers into prison guards, and
> that this is the direction we need to go in? Is
> that really the best you could come up with?
>
> > Unlike the stupid solutions of your side which
> would be to
> > BAN the vehicles or other objects just because
> someone may
> > misuse them.
>
> As your own 'solutions' leave so much to be
> desired, perhaps you should be working to improve
> those before turning to the exploration of
> potential holes in straw-man suggestions that
> others have not even put forward yet.

At least we have SOLUTIONS. Dim Wit DEMS like you have offered NOTHING.

Are the CAUSES of Suicide different if they are committed with a gun or another tool??? Of Course NOT. But Dim Wit DEMS are only concerned with suicides committed with guns. To them they are the only ones that matter. Dim Wit DEMS think if you ban guns all suicides will end. It never occurs to them to research the causes of suicides and look for solutions to the actual problem.

Are the causes of MURDER different if they are committed with a gun or another tool??? Dim Wit DEMS aren't concerned with GANG VIOLENCE, or DRUG RELATED VIOLENCE, or DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. To Dim Wit DEMS if you ban guns all murder will go away. While rational logical people prefer to research the causes of GANG VIOLENCE, DRUG RELATED VIOLENCE, and DOMESTIC VIOLENCE then look for solutions to the actual problem.


Are the CAUSES of Assault different if they are committed with a gun or another tool???
Are the CAUSES of Robbery different if they are committed with a gun or another tool???
Are the CAUSES of Rape different if they are committed with a gun or another tool???
Are the CAUSES of Kidnapping different if they are committed with a gun or another tool???

OF COURSE NOT, so why do DIM WIT DEMS only concentrate on guns and NOT THE REAL PROBLEM????

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: aaa. ()
Date: February 13, 2019 08:31PM

DEMS = DIM WITS Wrote:
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> GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > DEM = DIM WITS Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Vehicle barriers are a proactive defense
> against
> > the misuse
> > > of an object.
> >
> > And how many of these barriers had been
> deployed
> > along the esplanade in Nice? Your source did
> not
> > say.
> >
> > > Much like hardening schools and arming
> teachers.
> >
> >
> > Are you suggesting here that gun-related
> carnage
> > can be diminished by turning our schools into
> > bunkers and our teachers into prison guards,
> and
> > that this is the direction we need to go in?
> Is
> > that really the best you could come up with?
> >
> > > Unlike the stupid solutions of your side
> which
> > would be to
> > > BAN the vehicles or other objects just
> because
> > someone may
> > > misuse them.
> >
> > As your own 'solutions' leave so much to be
> > desired, perhaps you should be working to
> improve
> > those before turning to the exploration of
> > potential holes in straw-man suggestions that
> > others have not even put forward yet.
>
> At least we have SOLUTIONS. Dim Wit DEMS like you
> have offered NOTHING.
>
> Are the CAUSES of Suicide different if they are
> committed with a gun or another tool??? Of Course
> NOT. But Dim Wit DEMS are only concerned with
> suicides committed with guns. To them they are the
> only ones that matter. Dim Wit DEMS think if you
> ban guns all suicides will end. It never occurs to
> them to research the causes of suicides and look
> for solutions to the actual problem.
>
> Are the causes of MURDER different if they are
> committed with a gun or another tool??? Dim Wit
> DEMS aren't concerned with GANG VIOLENCE, or DRUG
> RELATED VIOLENCE, or DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. To Dim Wit
> DEMS if you ban guns all murder will go away.
> While rational logical people prefer to research
> the causes of GANG VIOLENCE, DRUG RELATED
> VIOLENCE, and DOMESTIC VIOLENCE then look for
> solutions to the actual problem.
>
>
> Are the CAUSES of Assault different if they are
> committed with a gun or another tool???
> Are the CAUSES of Robbery different if they are
> committed with a gun or another tool???
> Are the CAUSES of Rape different if they are
> committed with a gun or another tool???
> Are the CAUSES of Kidnapping different if they are
> committed with a gun or another tool???
>
> OF COURSE NOT, so why do DIM WIT DEMS only
> concentrate on guns and NOT THE REAL PROBLEM????

Calm down dude, you are getting trolled.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: libtardzRstupid ()
Date: February 13, 2019 08:41PM

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The Facts ()
Date: February 13, 2019 08:43PM

"All too many of the other great tragedies of history – Stalin’s atrocities, the killing fields of Cambodia, the Holocaust, to name but a few – were perpetrated by armed troops against unarmed populations. Many could well have been avoided or mitigated, had the perpetrators known their intended victims were equipped with a rifle and twenty bullets apiece . . . . If a few hundred Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto could hold off the Wehrmacht for almost a month with only a handful of weapons, six million Jews armed with rifles could not so easily have been herded into cattle cars.
. . . But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed – where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."

(Silveira v. Lockyer (9th Cir. 2003))

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: shfahfadh ()
Date: February 14, 2019 07:30AM


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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Happy Valentines Day ()
Date: February 14, 2019 07:33AM

Something they won’t ever hear again.
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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 14, 2019 08:39AM

fhfdh Wrote:
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> What exactly is your solution? I've seen a lot of bullshit
> from without any solution except guns are bad.

You haven't seen any bullshit at all -- just facts that you can't either accept or deal with.

As for solutions, I have previously mentioned 'smart guns' that can only be fired by the registered owner within GPS coordinates that comprise the legitimate grounds of his or her own home. That would satisfy the principal 'individual right' first found and spelled out in Heller, but people here have indicated that they would want a spouse and children at least to be able to fire this weapon as well, and to do so anywhere and everywhere as they might deem appropriate or necessary. This of course is simply to default to the status quo, once again telling us all that your 'side' has no interest whatsoever in actually reducing the degrees of death and damage that guns impose on the nation. You all just don't care about any of that.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 14, 2019 09:02AM

DEMS = DIM WITS Wrote:
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> Are the CAUSES of Assault different if they are committed with a gun?

Likely not, but what is of actual concern are the outcomes. Guns are so fast and so effective that they maximize the chances of success at suicide, even from the briefest moment of weakness. That of course is the exact opposite of what we would want. As you might know, the chief objective of suicide-prevention teams is to buy time. The longer a subject can be kept alive and talking, the more likely it is that his or her life will not end that day. Guns of course keep many from ever having that chance. It's all over for them in one sudden and irreversible bang.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 14, 2019 09:09AM

The Facts Wrote:
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> (Silveira v. Lockyer (9th Cir. 2003))

Should I assume that you actually understood that the opinion in Silveira v Lockyer was that the 2nd Amendment DID NOT confer an individuals right to keep and bear arms?

Or should I assume that this was just another misguided copy-and-paste?

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Questions, Questions ()
Date: February 14, 2019 11:43AM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> fhfdh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What exactly is your solution? I've seen a lot
> of bullshit
> > from without any solution except guns are bad.
>
> You haven't seen any bullshit at all -- just facts
> that you can't either accept or deal with.
>
> As for solutions, I have previously mentioned
> 'smart guns' that can only be fired by the
> registered owner within GPS coordinates that
> comprise the legitimate grounds of his or her own
> home. That would satisfy the principal
> 'individual right' first found and spelled out in
> Heller, but people here have indicated that they
> would want a spouse and children at least to be
> able to fire this weapon as well, and to do so
> anywhere and everywhere as they might deem
> appropriate or necessary. This of course is
> simply to default to the status quo, once again
> telling us all that your 'side' has no interest
> whatsoever in actually reducing the degrees of
> death and damage that guns impose on the nation.
> You all just don't care about any of that.


I shoot any number of weapons at a variety of ranges. I also have a hundred acre property in the Shenandoah Valley where I shoot. Plus I carry when out and about, not only in VA but in several other states on travel. How does your GPS restriction cover that?

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Hypocrites "Harm Prevention" Now ()
Date: February 14, 2019 01:05PM

>and that for the simple sake of harm-reduction,

>Preventing SOME is a better outcome than preventing NONE.

So you keep the racists in Richmond from staying in office along with the sex offender, while you let those babies live and take the driving licenses from the death dealing idiots behind the wheel with numerous driving offenses of reckless selfish stupidity.

Only then after many more issues more important , you can continue with your tirades of destroying the Bill of Rights with confiscation schemes

Hypocrites the Democrats Always In Full Living Color In Richmond Virginia !

Just STFU !

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Simply Put ()
Date: February 14, 2019 01:12PM

>s for solutions, I have previously mentioned
> 'smart guns' that can only be fired by the
> registered owner within GPS coordinates that
> comprise the legitimate grounds of his or her own
> home. That would satisfy the principal
> 'individual right' first found and spelled out in
> Heller, but people here

Your full of smug elitist high horse B.S no police, military or anyone except an idiot would want such a stupid POS

Satisfy "Heller" ! Go to hell will you with the communists who want the American people disarmed to move on to the next final solutions , That alone will "satisfy" the millions of American who still believe we have a Bill of Rights

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: They’re Coming for You ()
Date: February 14, 2019 01:22PM

Simply Put Wrote:
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> >s for solutions, I have previously mentioned
> > 'smart guns' that can only be fired by the
> > registered owner within GPS coordinates that
> > comprise the legitimate grounds of his or her
> own
> > home. That would satisfy the principal
> > 'individual right' first found and spelled out
> in
> > Heller, but people here
>
> Your full of smug elitist high horse B.S no
> police, military or anyone except an idiot would
> want such a stupid POS
>
> Satisfy "Heller" ! Go to hell will you with the
> communists who want the American people disarmed
> to move on to the next final solutions , That
> alone will "satisfy" the millions of American who
> still believe we have a Bill of Rights

Must be a bitch hiding under the bed at night, huh? But the nites are happy.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: LIBTURDS ()
Date: February 14, 2019 02:19PM

They’re Coming for You Wrote:
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> Simply Put Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >s for solutions, I have previously mentioned
> > > 'smart guns' that can only be fired by the
> > > registered owner within GPS coordinates that
> > > comprise the legitimate grounds of his or her
> > own
> > > home. That would satisfy the principal
> > > 'individual right' first found and spelled
> out
> > in
> > > Heller, but people here
> >
> > Your full of smug elitist high horse B.S no
> > police, military or anyone except an idiot
> would
> > want such a stupid POS
> >
> > Satisfy "Heller" ! Go to hell will you with the
> > communists who want the American people
> disarmed
> > to move on to the next final solutions , That
> > alone will "satisfy" the millions of American
> who
> > still believe we have a Bill of Rights
>
> Must be a bitch hiding under the bed at night,
> huh? But the nites are happy.

Yet he doesn’t appear to be the one afraid of big bad guns coming for him. That’s you LIBTURDS.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: 4YY3V ()
Date: February 14, 2019 03:30PM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> As you might know, the chief objective of suicide-prevention teams is to buy time.

Well, I'm still here, despite having gotten as far as
climbing onto a four-lane bridge over a large river.

I still spend about an hour a day, most days, planning
in complete detail methods, timing for killing myself.

A lot of it revolves around how to make it look like
an accident, or better, how to make it a secret.
He disappeared one day without a trace and nobody knows,
or variations on that where it would be known that I was
"leaving the country" and not sure when coming back.
If I had maintained my decades of estrangement from my family,
I would not feel guilty about traumatizing the young adult cousins.
That was a mistake: getting to know them.

But back 30 years ago before I got up on that bridge and
was only holding on with one hand 60 feet above the river,
and then chickening out at the last moment... I called the
Suicide Prevention Hotline.

They didn't want to talk to me. Said that since I had a well-paying
job (back then) that I was obviously just fucking with them and
was not a suicide risk. Hung up on me after about 5 minutes of
questions, like: Are you going to do it in the next 5 minutes?
Are you employed? Do you think about it often ("yes, every day").

The thing that triggered me to the bridge that time was my ex-GF
posting unflattering nude pics she had secretly taken. This was
before the Internet. She posted them on paper, to about 100
friends and co-workers of mine.

Anyway, if you call one of those counseling lines, they are not
all about keeping you on the phone delaying. If you're not going
to pull the trigger on a gun in yor hand in the next 5 minutes,
you're dismissed, rather rudely. In "Well then just fucking do it,
do it now, or get off my phone." way.

I have lots of guns, but I refuse to shoot myself.
Because it would make some people think guns are bad.
And since it's mostly inherited family guns, it would make
the remaining family feel extra bad.

I'm nearing 60 in poor health now, so I'll wind up dead soon anyway.
Nothing to show for my life, no loves, no accomplishments, no money or house.
I spent most of the last few days considering suicide.
Going to be homeless (again) in the next couple of weeks, most likely.

When I was a pre-teen I apparently wrote some stuff that I didn't
remember writing -- it caused the adults to come asking me if I
was having thoughts of killing myself. I was shocked that they knew,
but I lied and said it was all a misunderstanding.

A couple years later, my Mom killed herself.

Well, here I am .

A waste of air and resources. Pathetic in the extreme.

Still haven't killed myself.

Could still happen.
Although maybe it's more pointless, it's never been more likely.

I don't want people I know to realize I did it.
The problem with those "escape" plans is that they are expensive.
You know, ways to off yourself where nobody will be able to identify
the body and realize who it was. Suggestions?

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: 4YY3V ()
Date: February 14, 2019 03:33PM

4YY3V Wrote:
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> unflattering nude pics she had secretly taken.

LOL of *me* in case that wasn't clear.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Law Dog ()
Date: February 14, 2019 10:31PM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> The Facts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > (Silveira v. Lockyer (9th Cir. 2003))
>
> Should I assume that you actually understood that
> the opinion in Silveira v Lockyer was that the 2nd
> Amendment DID NOT confer an individuals right to
> keep and bear arms?
>
> Or should I assume that this was just another
> misguided copy-and-paste?

Should we assume that you actually understand that Silveira was overturned by DC v Heller and reaffirmed by Chicago v MacDonald?

Or should we assume that this was just another misdirection and misinformation to confuse the ignorant members of your party?

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: aggag ()
Date: February 21, 2019 09:06PM

Law Dog Wrote:
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> GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Facts Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > (Silveira v. Lockyer (9th Cir. 2003))
> >
> > Should I assume that you actually understood
> that
> > the opinion in Silveira v Lockyer was that the
> 2nd
> > Amendment DID NOT confer an individuals right
> to
> > keep and bear arms?
> >
> > Or should I assume that this was just another
> > misguided copy-and-paste?
>
> Should we assume that you actually understand that
> Silveira was overturned by DC v Heller and
> reaffirmed by Chicago v MacDonald?
>
> Or should we assume that this was just another
> misdirection and misinformation to confuse the
> ignorant members of your party?

He doesn't understand anything. He is constantly made a fool of, day in and day out. He thinks he is being smart, but he only demonstrates to the world what a pathetic loser he is.

His whole miserable life has come down to trolling those better them himself with idiotic blather. What a sad existence indeed.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 21, 2019 09:10PM

aggag Wrote:
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> Law Dog Wrote:
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> > GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The Facts Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > (Silveira v. Lockyer (9th Cir. 2003))
> > >
> > > Should I assume that you actually understood
> > that
> > > the opinion in Silveira v Lockyer was that
> the
> > 2nd
> > > Amendment DID NOT confer an individuals right
> > to
> > > keep and bear arms?
> > >
> > > Or should I assume that this was just another
> > > misguided copy-and-paste?
> >
> > Should we assume that you actually understand
> that
> > Silveira was overturned by DC v Heller and
> > reaffirmed by Chicago v MacDonald?
> >
> > Or should we assume that this was just another
> > misdirection and misinformation to confuse the
> > ignorant members of your party?
>
> He doesn't understand anything. He is constantly
> made a fool of, day in and day out. He thinks he
> is being smart, but he only demonstrates to the
> world what a pathetic loser he is.
>
> His whole miserable life has come down to trolling
> those better them himself with idiotic blather.
> What a sad existence indeed.


That DIM WIT is the very fucking definition of retarded emotional maturity.

Like most DIM WITTED DEMS he is proven LIAR as well.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Decorated Sandbag Engineer ()
Date: February 21, 2019 09:56PM

“The only man scared of a gun is the man with the gun”.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: dafuk ()
Date: February 21, 2019 10:31PM

why would I be afraid of my guns? The only thing that concerns me about my guns is who to give them to in my will, which is mildly problematic as a couple recipients are my age making it somewhat pointless. Meh, that just means my cousins will get a few more than planed.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: shfdfsh ()
Date: February 22, 2019 07:36AM


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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 22, 2019 10:11AM

The DIM WIT DEMS that spew Bloomberg bullshit, don’t consider those defensive gun uses, because the gunowner didn’t blow the dirtbag away in some dramatic Hollywood fashion. DIM WIT DEMS rely on movies for their information. They are too DIM WITTED to understand, MOVIES ARE NOT REAL.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The Facts ()
Date: February 22, 2019 07:53PM

In 1994 Mark Rosenberg the director of the National Center for Injury Prevention division of the National Centers for Disease Control wrote his desire to start a propaganda campaign to demonize guns and gunowners. He openly told the Washington Post that his goal was to create a public perception of gun ownership as something “dirty, deadly — and banned.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/10/19/sick-people-with-guns/6c7f2bd2-fa57-4d69-b927-5ceb4fa43cf4/?utm_term=.22a2088b647c

Oddly, several CDC studies found significant defensive gun uses every year in the US, yet never published the results of those studies. So, besides their political bias, why didn't they publish the papers? Another factor, however, might have played a role in the decision of CDC personnel to not report the DGU findings. For CDC’s own surveys to generate high estimates of DGU prevalence was clearly not helpful to efforts to enact stricter controls over firearms, since it implies that some such measures might disarm people who otherwise would have been able to use a gun for self-protection.

This practice was stopped by Congress in 1997 through a statutory prohibition on the CDC’s use of federal funds to promote gun control. The provision in question does not actually ban research at the CDC on so-called "gun violence", it only prevents advocacy by the CDC for gun control. But Democrats argue that the provision has had a chilling effect on their propaganda.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: sgsfh ()
Date: February 22, 2019 10:50PM

Coming to a street near you, courtesy of the Democrats …..

https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/2267653253522630/

That isn't a "replica", it's a toy.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: shfdsh ()
Date: February 22, 2019 11:30PM

Another Woman Saved by a Gun ….

County attorney: Girlfriend acted in self-defense for fatal shooting boyfriend in central Minnesota

https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/crime-and-courts/4566718-county-attorney-girlfriend-acted-self-defense-fatal-shooting-boyfriend

Real stories, not fake shit from the left.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 23, 2019 07:58AM

Looks like the DIM WITTED DEMS finally stopped spewing their fucking lies. The DEMS have shown the American People how fucking stupid they are. 2020 can't get here soon enough.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Modify 2 A ()
Date: February 23, 2019 08:24AM

This thread is funny. Pro gun guys posting over and over to try and make it look like they are not cowards all the way to very core of their beings. We all know that you guys live every day in fear.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 23, 2019 08:37AM

Modify 2 A Wrote:
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> This thread is funny. Pro gun guys posting over
> and over to try and make it look like they are not
> cowards all the way to very core of their beings.
> We all know that you guys live every day in fear.


Yet it is you DIM WITS that fear an inanimate object. The mere sight sends you into uncontrollable convulsions. If you want to see a person living in fear, look in a mirror DIM WIT.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Modify 2 A ()
Date: February 23, 2019 08:43AM

DEMS = DIM WITS Wrote:
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>
>
> "Yet it is you DIM WITS that fear an inanimate
> object. The mere sight sends you into
> uncontrollable convulsions. If you want to see a
> person living in fear, look in a mirror DIM WIT."

That is a great coward quote! Classic lol!

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 23, 2019 09:09AM

Modify 2 A Wrote:
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> DEMS = DIM WITS Wrote:
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> >
> >
> > "Yet it is you DIM WITS that fear an inanimate
> > object. The mere sight sends you into
> > uncontrollable convulsions. If you want to see
> a
> > person living in fear, look in a mirror DIM
> WIT."
>
> That is a great coward quote! Classic lol!

Classic response from a DIM WIT DEM, nothing but worthless blather. No substance what-so-ever. Keep posting, you are showing the world your side is full of blithering IDIOTS.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: u got triggered ()
Date: February 23, 2019 09:54AM

> -----
> > DEMS = DIM WITS Wrote:
> > ------------------
>
> Classic response from a DIM WIT DEM, nothing but
> worthless blather. No substance what-so-ever. Keep
> posting, you are showing the world your side is
> full of blithering IDIOTS.


Little coward is all triggered and shit, funny!

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: example A ()
Date: February 23, 2019 09:57AM

u got triggered Wrote:
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>
> Little coward is all triggered and shit, funny!


exactly. When one has no logical defense, throw insults

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 23, 2019 10:21AM

The Facts Wrote:
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> This practice was stopped by Congress in 1997
> through a statutory prohibition on the CDC’s use
> of federal funds to promote gun control. The
> provision in question does not actually ban
> research at the CDC on so-called "gun violence",
> it only prevents advocacy by the CDC for gun
> control. But Democrats argue that the provision
> has had a chilling effect on their propaganda.

The ACTUAL facts...

What you are making a poor attempt to discuss is the Dickey Amendment. The Dickey Amendment arose in response to efforts in the 1990s to treat gun violence as a matter of public health. In 1992, CDC had redefined its violence prevention division as a center to lead in efforts to reduce death and injury resulting from all forms of violence. Not surprisingly, studies funded by the center soon began drawing public attention to the gun issue. In particular, a 1993 study by Arthur Kellermann et al. revealed an increased risk of homicide associated with the presence of a firearm in the home. The Kellermann study and similar work that followed it struck a nerve and received considerable attention in the media.

The NRA in particular was not at all pleased by this and accused the CDC of being biased against guns. They began lobbying Congress for elimination of the injury prevention center altogether. While the center itself did survive, the job of its director (Mark Rosenberg) did not. Under the guidance of NRA point-man, Rep. Jay Dickey (R-Ark), a provision was added to a 1996 spending bill declaring that none of the funds made available to CDC could in any way be used to advocate or promote gun control. The entire CDC budget for research into firearms injuries was also earmarked instead for research into traumatic brain injuries. Having later become fast friends with Mr. Rosenberg, Mr. Dickey died in 2017, having come to regret the role he had played in the matter.

With public interest in gun issues heightened by a series of mass shootings and student protests, Congress (despite the NRA) reached a compromise in passing an omnibus spending bill in March 2018. The Dickey Amendment did not go away, but a report accompanying the spending bill clarified that the amendment did not prohibit federal funding of research into the nature of gun violence. No such research had been funded since 1996.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The CDC Rigged the Stats ()
Date: February 23, 2019 10:39AM

Dot try to lie out of it and congress busted them

>With public interest in gun issues heightened by a series of mass shootings and student protests,

Pushed by liberal propaganda by biased anti gun media which has only created more mass shootings with sensationalism and "fame" given to the infamous shooting killers causing more psychopaths to become killers with picture perfect ways to do it and targets shown by the media

The AR-15 has been available to civilians as a semi-auto firearm since 1964 when Colt marketed it as the SP1 special purpose rifle for hunters campers and sportsmen. The same firepower with a 20 round magazine then as the current black rifles Democrats call assault firearms

And there were No Mass Shootings with this firearm until the 1980's . Your Liberal now Leftist programs propaganda media and Hollywood and Video games plus your stifling P.C code shoved down American youths throats is the reason why they are happening since the rise of liberalism.

Your imagined nirvana is a world of violence and death for unarmed innocents turned into slaves of leftist masters just like your name here "DEATH"

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Exhibit A On Display ()
Date: February 23, 2019 10:44AM

>Little coward is all triggered and shit, funny!

Psychopath ^

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Sgt. Rock ()
Date: February 23, 2019 10:50AM

The REAL facts:

More than 50 times as many lives are saved by the use of firearms in the US than are lost at the hands of someone using one per year in the US.

Based on population size, the US is 62nd in the world in mass shooting deaths over the past 10 years (mass shooting = more than 4 people killed per incident).

White, upper-middle class areas of the US are the safest areas of the country and are in the top .003% of crime-free areas in the world.

Gun control is not about guns. It is about control. George Soros is on record saying the US can not be 'tamed' until the private mass ownership of guns has been eliminated.

You have a greater risk of being murdered by someone with a club than you do being murdered by someone with a legally owned gun.

Only commies faggots support gun confiscation. Don't listen to commie faggots. They are never on the correct side of any issue.

That is all.....

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 23, 2019 10:59AM

Claimed statistics for successful defensive uses of firearms are at best of questionable rigor. They need to be compared to far more reliable data for justifiable homicide by a private person. There would be a great many more of the latter if the former actually made any sense at all.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: NoMo ()
Date: February 23, 2019 11:12AM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> Claimed statistics for successful defensive uses
> of firearms are at best of questionable rigor.
> They need to be compared to far more reliable data
> for justifiable homicide by a private person.
> There would be a great many more of the latter if
> the former actually made any sense at all.


Peer reviewed studies, including ones by the FBI and CDC, say you are wrong.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Numbers don't jibe... ()
Date: February 23, 2019 11:40AM

The NRA number for successful defensive uses of a gun are in the several millions annually. FBI numbers for justifiable homicide by a private person per year barely reach a few hundred.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: frts ()
Date: February 23, 2019 11:51AM

Only 1 in 100 times does a good guy with a gun have to fire it. The other 99 times, the perps run away. This happens hundreds of times a day in the US. Guns saves lives. Literally thousands upon thousands a year.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEM = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 23, 2019 12:50PM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> The Facts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This practice was stopped by Congress in 1997
> > through a statutory prohibition on the CDC’s
> use
> > of federal funds to promote gun control. The
> > provision in question does not actually ban
> > research at the CDC on so-called "gun
> violence",
> > it only prevents advocacy by the CDC for gun
> > control. But Democrats argue that the provision
> > has had a chilling effect on their propaganda.
>
> The ACTUAL facts...
>
> What you are making a poor attempt to discuss is
> the Dickey Amendment. The Dickey Amendment arose
> in response to efforts in the 1990s to treat gun
> violence as a matter of public health. In 1992,
> CDC had redefined its violence prevention division
> as a center to lead in efforts to reduce death and
> injury resulting from all forms of violence. Not
> surprisingly, studies funded by the center soon
> began drawing public attention to the gun issue.
> In particular, a 1993 study by Arthur Kellermann
> et al. revealed an increased risk of homicide
> associated with the presence of a firearm in the
> home. The Kellermann study and similar work that
> followed it struck a nerve and received
> considerable attention in the media.
>
> The NRA in particular was not at all pleased by
> this and accused the CDC of being biased against
> guns. They began lobbying Congress for
> elimination of the injury prevention center
> altogether. While the center itself did survive,
> the job of its director (Mark Rosenberg) did not.
> Under the guidance of NRA point-man, Rep. Jay
> Dickey (R-Ark), a provision was added to a 1996
> spending bill declaring that none of the funds
> made available to CDC could in any way be used to
> advocate or promote gun control. The entire CDC
> budget for research into firearms injuries was
> also earmarked instead for research into traumatic
> brain injuries.

The Kellerman study was the poster child for pure unadulterated PROPAGANDA based on junk science. When held up to the light of true scientist, it failed miserably. Peer review after peer review found it lacked "proper scientific methodology".

One of the most noted, written by 6 true scientist, that had no known association with either side of the gun-control debate, found:

"The methods used in Kellerman, et al do not take into account subgrouping or stratification in our society, and this can be shown to be able to cause a spurious association comparable to the one found.

The case-control method (described in an Appendix) has an assumption of homogeneity for all relevant variables which are not taken into account in the study. If this is violated, it is possible to have an 'apparent association' result when there is actually no true association. Technically this would probably be considered to be "confounding" due to whatever factors were heterogeneous. Unlike other types of studies in which randomization is used to protect against unaccounted for variation, the case-control remains susceptible."


To explain in terms that even a DIM WIT DEM can understand that if you substitute any common household item you come up with the same or worse results. For example, if you substitute a "toilet", the methodology used in the Kellerman study would show that you are 1,304 times more likely to die a violent death than someone who didn't have a toilet in their house. So using the ideas of the DIM WIT DEMS, you better get rid of your toilet.

It wasn't just the NRA that had an issue with the Junk Science, but also any American that believes in TRUTH, it's odd that you don't see a problem with pushing LIES. So the CDC was spanked for Rosenberg's attempt at propaganda, as they should have been.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 23, 2019 03:35PM

Kellermann has only been amplified since 1996 with repeated corroborations of the homicide effect being published and — unsurprisingly — being found also with respect to suicides and accidental deaths.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Leftist.Gorilla ()
Date: February 23, 2019 04:12PM

Kellermann has been roundly debunked as pseudo-science that can't produce the methodology used nor the conclusions that it found. No one even uses Kellermann anymore except full blown retarded morons.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: NRA hates Kellermann... ()
Date: February 23, 2019 05:38PM

... other people not so much. Hence, the 293 references to Kellermann listed in the NE Journal of Meficine. You clowns of course get lost anywhere above the level of Dick & Jane.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: You Hate Liberty Clown ()
Date: February 23, 2019 06:06PM

Admit it The CDC rigged their stats to benefit Democrat gun control schems that's why they were badly spanked by congress once caught at it

The Wash post can make up all kinds of stats, all liberals can , we saw that on Nov 8th 2016 when SHE LOST Soon one more Scotus justice coming up to replace one who wont uphold the constitution

Rigging stats rigging election methods like Colorado trying to do and will get shut down by SCOTUS in the end rigging lying exaggerating election fraud propaganda relying on liberal to leftist judges that's Democrats way to roll to get their way

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Hmmm..: ()
Date: February 23, 2019 06:17PM

What I hate is IGNORANT ASSHOLES. And you are definitely one of those.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: YOU = FULL OF SHIT ()
Date: February 23, 2019 06:18PM

Not to mention that it counted guns in or around the subject home, didn't distinguish between whether a gun in the home was the gun used in the homicide, whether it was brought into the home by another party, etc.

And it was 2.7X not 4X. Which remains 2.7X a tiny actual risk number which is far below the risk presented by other common items and factors as noted in the study including alcohol in the home, living in a apartment, living alone, being black, etc. In fact, having a gun in the home ranked only 5th of 6 risk factors reported - using illicit drugs (5.7), renting (4.4), having any history of a household member being in a fight (4.4), living alone (3.7), guns in the home (2.7), and someone in the home being arrested (2.5).

Kellermann didn't even try to defend it or claim that it supports use in the way that the anti-gun nuts attempt.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH ()
Date: February 23, 2019 06:34PM

The NRA has eaten whatever it was that served as your brain. The factor of nearly four includes all of homicide, suicide, and accidental death, and it obviously comes from much more and more recent than just Kellermann. You jerks don’t know the truth simply because you don’t want to. That’s dumb.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Hmmm... Hates Being EXPOSED ()
Date: February 23, 2019 06:38PM

>What I hate is IGNORANT ASSHOLES. And you are definitely one of those.

As a rigging lying cheating leftist undermining the Constitution yet he looks in the mirror exposed while posting and calls himself names

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: YOU = FULL OF SHIT ()
Date: February 23, 2019 07:01PM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> The NRA has eaten whatever it was that served as
> your brain. The factor of nearly four includes
> all of homicide, suicide, and accidental death,
> and it obviously comes from much more and more
> recent than just Kellermann. You jerks don’t
> know the truth simply because you don’t want to.
> That’s dumb.


Your "factor of nearly four" is pulled entirely from your ass.

Which is why you can't ever support it. And why every time that you try, as you did here referencing Kellermann, you get your dumb ass pwned by people who know your same tired talking points and the numbers much better than you do.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: still waiting ()
Date: February 23, 2019 09:42PM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> The NRA has eaten whatever it was that served as
> your brain. The factor of nearly four includes
> all of homicide, suicide, and accidental death,
> and it obviously comes from much more and more
> recent than just Kellermann. You jerks don’t
> know the truth simply because you don’t want to.
> That’s dumb.


You know what's dumb? I mean other than you, is not posting your source for all these lies after being asked for it multiple times. This is nothing more than an admission by you that you are knowingly lying.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 23, 2019 09:56PM

GUNS = DEATH Wrote:
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> The factor of nearly four includes
> all of homicide, suicide, and accidental death,
> and it obviously comes from much more and more
> recent than just Kellermann. You jerks don’t
> know the truth simply because you don’t want to.
> That’s dumb.

Ok DIM WIT, cite those numerous sources that prove Kellerman. Here's an easier one, cite the source that you've been spewing that mentions a factor of 4.

Once again proving, you DIM WIT DEMS always come unarmed to intelligent debates.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: His source ()
Date: February 23, 2019 11:14PM

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DNUDV ()
Date: February 23, 2019 11:25PM

While true, that was unnecessary

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: hafdhfa ()
Date: February 23, 2019 11:27PM

That picture gives him too much credit.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The Impotency of America ()
Date: February 23, 2019 11:48PM

It’s sad commentary when you boys only post about your guns instead of spending more time shooting your guns.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The Stupidity of Libtards ()
Date: February 23, 2019 11:57PM

The Impotency of America Wrote:
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> It’s sad commentary when you boys only post
> about your guns instead of spending more time
> shooting your guns.


The local ranges do have cell service.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: JASL ()
Date: February 24, 2019 12:23AM

The Stupidity of Libtards Wrote:
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> The Impotency of America Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It’s sad commentary when you boys only post
> > about your guns instead of spending more time
> > shooting your guns.
>
>
> The local ranges do have cell service.


So, you’re a libtard.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: HU7TH ()
Date: February 24, 2019 01:41AM

JASL Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Stupidity of Libtards Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Impotency of America Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It’s sad commentary when you boys only post
> > > about your guns instead of spending more time
> > > shooting your guns.
> >
> >
> > The local ranges do have cell service.
>
>
> So, you’re a libtard.


Yes, I know my cell phone works while I'm at any of the 5 local ranges. No, having my cell phone in my pocket while actually on the range, in a lane does not make me a libtard. But making stupid statements does qualify you as one.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Your Home is YOUR Castle ()
Date: February 24, 2019 06:56AM

HU7TH Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> JASL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Stupidity of Libtards Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The Impotency of America Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > It’s sad commentary when you boys only
> post
> > > > about your guns instead of spending more
> time
> > > > shooting your guns.
> > >
> > >
> > > The local ranges do have cell service.
> >
> >
> > So, you’re a libtard.
>
>
> Yes, I know my cell phone works while I'm at any
> of the 5 local ranges. No, having my cell phone in
> my pocket while actually on the range, in a lane
> does not make me a libtard. But making stupid
> statements does qualify you as one.


Only libtards go to ranges. Your home, yard and gun, right? Exercise your rights in the yard or basement. What say you, American?

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEM = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 24, 2019 09:04AM

DIM WIT DEMS like to throw out bullshit terms like "gun violence". It is meaningless, no true scientist would study such a thing, because it is like studying unicorns, they don't exist. You can't study something that doesn't exist.

Any study that mentions "gun violence" is JUNK SCIENCE, False Experts and Fake News .... nothing else. There is NO SUCH thing as Gun Violence .... there is GANG Violence, DOMESTIC Violence, DRUG RELATED Violence, SUICIDE etc .... But NO Gun Violence. That is a PROPAGANDA TERM pushed by the media to fool the ignorant masses.

Each of those forms of VIOLENCE have different causes, and therefore different solutions. But DIM WIT DEMS don't care about VIOLENCE. They don't care about those killed by VIOLENCE. They are obsessed with the little tool.

So, whenever DIM WITS use the term "gun violence", you instantly know they are LYING to you.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The dumb just keeps on coming ()
Date: February 24, 2019 09:42AM

The facts of your incredible stupidity do not affect the even more monstrous problem of gun violence such as the annual toll of 40,000 people who die from violence involving guns.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: why argue? ()
Date: February 24, 2019 10:07AM

Really, why argue? Nobody is changing their minds on any of this and the stupidity on both sides is pretty strong.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: DEMS = DIM WITS ()
Date: February 24, 2019 10:40AM

The dumb just keeps on coming Wrote:
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> The facts of your incredible stupidity do not
> affect the even more monstrous problem of gun
> violence such as the annual toll of 40,000 people
> who die from violence involving guns.


You FUCKING LIAR, where are these "40,000 people who die from violence involving guns"????

Come on DIM WIT, cite where these 40,000 are.

Another asks, "Why argue?" Because it is the right thing to do to shine the light on cockroaches that want to steal hard fought Civil Rights. The bigger question is, "Why don't you care about your Civil Rights????"

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Man, are you dumb ()
Date: February 24, 2019 10:54AM

Data are from CDC and are widely known among even marginally intelligent people.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Range Meister ()
Date: February 24, 2019 02:14PM

I love the range!
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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: PETVT ()
Date: February 24, 2019 02:21PM

Your Home is YOUR Castle Wrote:
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>
>
>
> Only libtards go to ranges. Your home, yard and
> gun, right? Exercise your rights in the yard or
> basement. What say you, American?


I say this is a pathetic attempt at what ever it is you are trying to prove

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: lying libtard still lying ()
Date: February 24, 2019 02:25PM

Man, are you dumb Wrote:
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> Data are from CDC and are widely known among even
> marginally intelligent people.


Once again, just saying the numbers are over here doesn't cut it. Provide the actual numbers with the actual link to them. Or quit lying to everyone.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The dumb just keeps on coming ()
Date: February 24, 2019 02:30PM

It’s like you dummies want to BRAG about being stupid.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: BUTT WISQARS ()
Date: February 24, 2019 03:07PM

Man, are you dumb Wrote:
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> Data are from CDC and are widely known among even
> marginally intelligent people.


None of which support your bullshit.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Man, are you dumb ()
Date: February 24, 2019 03:17PM

The data are what they are. There are an annual 40,000 gun-related deaths
in this country and keeping a gun in the home increases your chances of dying from a GSW by a factor of nearly four. You can bet your life on that.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The Impotence of America ()
Date: February 24, 2019 03:36PM

Only liberals would live where they are allowed to own firearms but not allowed to discharge them on their property. False Bravado.

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: ASS WISQARS ()
Date: February 24, 2019 04:30PM

Man, are you dumb Wrote:
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> The data are what they are. There are an annual
> 40,000 gun-related deaths
> in this country and keeping a gun in the home
> increases your chances of dying from a GSW by a
> factor of nearly four. You can bet your life on
> that.


Still false relying on misrepresentation, inappropriate aggregation, obfuscation, and omission. As virtually all anti-gun 'stats' do since the objective numbers don't support the cause.

About as valid as saying that having a black man in the home increases the risk of gun homicide by 14X! 14 fucking X negro! 29.12/100,000 for black men vs. 2.1 for white. And at least I can provide data to support that bullshit claim. lmao

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The Impotence of America ()
Date: February 24, 2019 04:53PM

Fucking liberals acting tough.
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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: Not A Felon ()
Date: February 24, 2019 04:57PM

Do you need to pass a background check to buy here?

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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: The Impotence of America ()
Date: February 24, 2019 05:07PM

Only liberals frequent firing ranges. A real American wouldn’t be caught dead in one. This one now has doors. What’s next, Glory holes for reloading?
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Re: A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity
Posted by: CLCWN ()
Date: February 24, 2019 07:27PM

Can someone show me where it says 40,000 yearly gun deaths? I can’t find it.

https://www.cdc.gov/

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