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Admittedly they've lied in the media about their "original contract" and used the money burning it up in the media and fake lobbying support - MUCH reducing the insurance payouts. But i believe they still pay cases, just a personal belief.
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Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
NRA Sucks!
()
Date: November 17, 2018 01:09PM
Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
After analyzing all of these studies, the researchers came up with three conclusions:
1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul - not just one new law - to see significant change.
2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
3.Individual studies need to be better executed and planned in future to get more convincing results.
Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
After analyzing all of these studies, the researchers came up with three conclusions:
1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul - not just one new law - to see significant change.
2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
3.Individual studies need to be better executed and planned in future to get more convincing results.
Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Brown Onion
()
Date: November 17, 2018 01:15PM
NRA Sucks! Wrote:
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> Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful
> Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
>
>
> After analyzing all of these studies, the
> researchers came up with three conclusions:
>
> 1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul -
> not just one new law - to see significant change.
>
> 2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase
> is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
>
> 3.Individual studies need to be better executed
> and planned in future to get more convincing
> results.
>
>
> Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
Sure Gerry. And eskimos are looking for ice.
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> Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful
> Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
>
>
> After analyzing all of these studies, the
> researchers came up with three conclusions:
>
> 1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul -
> not just one new law - to see significant change.
>
> 2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase
> is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
>
> 3.Individual studies need to be better executed
> and planned in future to get more convincing
> results.
>
>
> Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
Sure Gerry. And eskimos are looking for ice.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Human Tripod
()
Date: November 17, 2018 01:36PM
And a Democratic congressman recently suggested using nuclear weapons on the people of the United States to bring about personal disarmament.
Democrats are not the party of peace!
Democrats are not the party of peace!
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Clear and present danger
()
Date: November 17, 2018 01:50PM
Bullets are dangerous things. They and those who would send them flying through the air to the lethal peril of the rest of us need to be very tightly regulated.
As for statistics, states with higher levels of gun ownership also have higher rates of gun-related deaths. The two quite plainly go hand in hand.
As for statistics, states with higher levels of gun ownership also have higher rates of gun-related deaths. The two quite plainly go hand in hand.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Sparks
()
Date: November 17, 2018 01:59PM
Drugs just make you stupid. Women on cellphones in traffic present a greater danger than being hit by a random bullet.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Dumb-dumbs abound
()
Date: November 17, 2018 02:07PM
Talking on a cellphone while driving is bad, but nowhere near as dangerous as firing a bullet. You must not be very familiar with bullets at all.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Scholar
()
Date: November 17, 2018 02:38PM
If you compare murder rates in large cities to firearm ownership rates in the states in which they are, I see nothing conclusive that would support either side of the argument. (I could not find anything on general firearm related death rates for large cities, only states, nor could I find anything for firearm ownership rates, by large cities, but, I did not look that hard.......perhaps when I have more time). Sources: Bismarck, North Dakota Tribune, February, 2018 and a 2015 article in Buasiness Insider. Keep in mind, that this is not exhaustive research, it scratches the surface, only, but, the signs that I see are not pointing to anything conclusive on neither side of the question, at least not from statistics.
The top eleven cities for murder rates and firearm ownership in the state, in descending order.
1. St. Louis, Missouri-27,1%; low end of spectrum (I'd-a thunk Mo wouldda' been higher)
2. Baltimore, Maryland-(20,7%); low end of spectrum, one of the most restrictive gun "control" laws in the nation. Perhaps all of the rednecks on the Eastern Shore and in the western part of the state plus the thugs in Baltimore City and Prince George's County are balanced off by MontCOMMIEry, Baltimore Anne Arundel and Howard Counties.
3. Detroit, michigan-28,8%, low end of spectrum. I'd-a thunk Michigan wouldda' been higher, as well, but perhaps Southeastern Michigan offsets the U.P. plus the Detroit thugs.
4. New Orleans, Louisiana--44,5%,; high end of spectrum. No doubt high rate of ownership among rednecks in the country and smaller cities plus the Acadians in addition to the thugs in New Orleans.
5. Birmingham, Alabama-48,9%; high end of spectrum.
6. Jackson, Mississippi-42,8%; high end of spectrum.
7. Baton Rouge, Louisiana-same figures as New Orleans.
8. Hartford, Connecticut-16,6%; low end of spectrum, restrictive gun "control".
9. Salinas, California-20,1%; low end of spectrum; highly restrictive gun "control".
10. Milwaukee, Wisconsin-34,7%; middle of spectrum.
11. Washington, D.C.-25,9%; low end of spectrum, restrictive gun "control".
The map in the Business Insider article presented a spectrum where there are two low categories (0-30%), one meduium (30*40&) and two high (40%+). The highest states were:
Alaska-61,7% (duhhhhhhhhh-uh!)
Arkansas-57,9%
West Virginia-54,2%
Wyoming-53,8% (not surprising)
Montana-52,3% (not surprising, either)
The five states with the highest rate of firearm ownership had no representatives among cities with the eleven highest murder rates.
High and low end of spectrum cities were represented almost evenly in the top eleven with only one in the middle of the spectrum (six low, four high, one middle) . The top three cities were in states at the low end of the firearm ownership spectrum. The middle four were on states at the high end of the spectrum. This was followed by two low, the sole middle and finally, the last was low.
The top eleven cities for murder rates and firearm ownership in the state, in descending order.
1. St. Louis, Missouri-27,1%; low end of spectrum (I'd-a thunk Mo wouldda' been higher)
2. Baltimore, Maryland-(20,7%); low end of spectrum, one of the most restrictive gun "control" laws in the nation. Perhaps all of the rednecks on the Eastern Shore and in the western part of the state plus the thugs in Baltimore City and Prince George's County are balanced off by MontCOMMIEry, Baltimore Anne Arundel and Howard Counties.
3. Detroit, michigan-28,8%, low end of spectrum. I'd-a thunk Michigan wouldda' been higher, as well, but perhaps Southeastern Michigan offsets the U.P. plus the Detroit thugs.
4. New Orleans, Louisiana--44,5%,; high end of spectrum. No doubt high rate of ownership among rednecks in the country and smaller cities plus the Acadians in addition to the thugs in New Orleans.
5. Birmingham, Alabama-48,9%; high end of spectrum.
6. Jackson, Mississippi-42,8%; high end of spectrum.
7. Baton Rouge, Louisiana-same figures as New Orleans.
8. Hartford, Connecticut-16,6%; low end of spectrum, restrictive gun "control".
9. Salinas, California-20,1%; low end of spectrum; highly restrictive gun "control".
10. Milwaukee, Wisconsin-34,7%; middle of spectrum.
11. Washington, D.C.-25,9%; low end of spectrum, restrictive gun "control".
The map in the Business Insider article presented a spectrum where there are two low categories (0-30%), one meduium (30*40&) and two high (40%+). The highest states were:
Alaska-61,7% (duhhhhhhhhh-uh!)
Arkansas-57,9%
West Virginia-54,2%
Wyoming-53,8% (not surprising)
Montana-52,3% (not surprising, either)
The five states with the highest rate of firearm ownership had no representatives among cities with the eleven highest murder rates.
High and low end of spectrum cities were represented almost evenly in the top eleven with only one in the middle of the spectrum (six low, four high, one middle) . The top three cities were in states at the low end of the firearm ownership spectrum. The middle four were on states at the high end of the spectrum. This was followed by two low, the sole middle and finally, the last was low.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Clear and present danger
()
Date: November 17, 2018 06:25PM
‘Twas btillig and the slighty toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
NRA = Death To Your Children
()
Date: November 17, 2018 07:05PM
NRA Sucks! Wrote:
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> Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful
> Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
>
>
> After analyzing all of these studies, the
> researchers came up with three conclusions:
>
> 1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul -
> not just one new law - to see significant change.
>
> 2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase
> is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
>
> 3.Individual studies need to be better executed
> and planned in future to get more convincing results.
>
>
> Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
Yep, gun control saves lives. No need to deflect- it is a simple fact.
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> Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful
> Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
>
>
> After analyzing all of these studies, the
> researchers came up with three conclusions:
>
> 1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul -
> not just one new law - to see significant change.
>
> 2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase
> is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
>
> 3.Individual studies need to be better executed
> and planned in future to get more convincing results.
>
>
> Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
Yep, gun control saves lives. No need to deflect- it is a simple fact.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
You are a pussy
()
Date: November 17, 2018 07:11PM
NRA Sucks! Wrote:
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> Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful
> Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
>
>
> After analyzing all of these studies, the
> researchers came up with three conclusions:
>
> 1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul -
> not just one new law - to see significant change.
>
> 2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase
> is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
>
> 3.Individual studies need to be better executed
> and planned in future to get more convincing
> results.
>
>
> Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
Kill yourself
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> Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful
> Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
>
>
> After analyzing all of these studies, the
> researchers came up with three conclusions:
>
> 1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul -
> not just one new law - to see significant change.
>
> 2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase
> is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
>
> 3.Individual studies need to be better executed
> and planned in future to get more convincing
> results.
>
>
> Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
Kill yourself
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Guns Nuts 'R' Pussies
()
Date: November 17, 2018 08:25PM
You are a pussy Wrote:
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> NRA Sucks! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful
> > Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
> >
> >
> > After analyzing all of these studies, the
> > researchers came up with three conclusions:
> >
> > 1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul -
> > not just one new law - to see significant change.
> >
> > 2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase
> > is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
> >
> > 3.Individual studies need to be better executed
> > and planned in future to get more convincing
> > results.
> >
> >
> > Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
>
> Kill yourself
Seems the guy that buys a gun is making up for something he lacks, such a pussy.
500 accidental gun deaths every year in the US- just hoping...
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> NRA Sucks! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful
> > Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
> >
> >
> > After analyzing all of these studies, the
> > researchers came up with three conclusions:
> >
> > 1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul -
> > not just one new law - to see significant change.
> >
> > 2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase
> > is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
> >
> > 3.Individual studies need to be better executed
> > and planned in future to get more convincing
> > results.
> >
> >
> > Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
>
> Kill yourself
Seems the guy that buys a gun is making up for something he lacks, such a pussy.
500 accidental gun deaths every year in the US- just hoping...
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Pointer outer of things
()
Date: November 17, 2018 10:51PM
Guns Nuts 'R' Pussies Wrote:
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> Y
>
> Seems the guy that buys a gun is making up for
> something he lacks, such a pussy.
>
>
Fact is, you're making statements you have no basis for. You libstains cheer when the femiNAZIs say "Don't like abortion? don't have one". Here's one for your sorry liberal ass: Don't like guns? don't buy one.
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> Y
>
> Seems the guy that buys a gun is making up for
> something he lacks, such a pussy.
>
>
Fact is, you're making statements you have no basis for. You libstains cheer when the femiNAZIs say "Don't like abortion? don't have one". Here's one for your sorry liberal ass: Don't like guns? don't buy one.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
NoMo
()
Date: November 18, 2018 08:28AM
Scholar Wrote:
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> If you compare murder rates in large cities to
> firearm ownership rates in the states in which
> they are, I see nothing conclusive that would
> support either side of the argument.
A great point, and consider this. Everyone who takes a statistics course is told: "Correlation does not equal causation." Very true. But the corollary should also be remembered, because it is the basis of statistics: to have causation you must have correlation. That's what statistics is all about. You look for correlations and then determine if there is a causation. The fact that there is no correlation between gun ownership rates and crime rates makes a lie of claims that guns are the cause.
In your search, look a the studies by the CDC in 2013 and those by John Lott. There is also a study by the Kenyan gov't after the terrorist attack in the mall and a report by INTERPOL after the attack which showed that armed civilians were instrumental in saving hundreds of lives during the attack. This article documents one of them:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4659988/Man-saved-200-lives-Kenyan-mall-attack-kills-gunmen.html
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> If you compare murder rates in large cities to
> firearm ownership rates in the states in which
> they are, I see nothing conclusive that would
> support either side of the argument.
A great point, and consider this. Everyone who takes a statistics course is told: "Correlation does not equal causation." Very true. But the corollary should also be remembered, because it is the basis of statistics: to have causation you must have correlation. That's what statistics is all about. You look for correlations and then determine if there is a causation. The fact that there is no correlation between gun ownership rates and crime rates makes a lie of claims that guns are the cause.
In your search, look a the studies by the CDC in 2013 and those by John Lott. There is also a study by the Kenyan gov't after the terrorist attack in the mall and a report by INTERPOL after the attack which showed that armed civilians were instrumental in saving hundreds of lives during the attack. This article documents one of them:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4659988/Man-saved-200-lives-Kenyan-mall-attack-kills-gunmen.html
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Liberal Insanity
()
Date: November 18, 2018 09:01AM
Compare gun ownership laws in DC vs VA.
Now compare violent crime rates.
Now STFU, moronic libtards!
Now compare violent crime rates.
Now STFU, moronic libtards!
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Eric Swalwall
()
Date: November 18, 2018 09:18AM
Democrats only want weapons for their big government thugs. Wonder why?
Attachments:
Attachments:
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Harm Reduction
()
Date: November 18, 2018 09:18AM
Clear and present danger Wrote:
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> T‘Twas btillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble
> in the wabe.
That covers virtually everything the NRA says. The White House and the Fox News Group are the only organizations that are more deliberately dishonest than the NRA.
And of course, higher rates of gun ownership do indeed correlate with higher rates of gun-related death and injury. There are more shark attacks in the ocean too, in case you dopes hadn't realized.
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> T‘Twas btillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble
> in the wabe.
That covers virtually everything the NRA says. The White House and the Fox News Group are the only organizations that are more deliberately dishonest than the NRA.
And of course, higher rates of gun ownership do indeed correlate with higher rates of gun-related death and injury. There are more shark attacks in the ocean too, in case you dopes hadn't realized.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Guns bring only death and injury
()
Date: November 18, 2018 09:26AM
Pointer outer of things Wrote:
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> Fact is, you're making statements you have no basis for.
> You libstains cheer when the femiNAZIs say "Don't like
> abortion? don't have one". Here's one for your sorry
> liberal ass: Don't like guns? don't buy one.
All sensible people support a woman's right to an abortion. In a free country, we do not compel women to give birth against their will.
Meanwhile, nearly two-thirds of US households do not own or keep guns. They get shot up by you clowns anyway.
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> Fact is, you're making statements you have no basis for.
> You libstains cheer when the femiNAZIs say "Don't like
> abortion? don't have one". Here's one for your sorry
> liberal ass: Don't like guns? don't buy one.
All sensible people support a woman's right to an abortion. In a free country, we do not compel women to give birth against their will.
Meanwhile, nearly two-thirds of US households do not own or keep guns. They get shot up by you clowns anyway.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
LOL...
()
Date: November 18, 2018 09:38AM
NoMo Wrote:
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> In your search, look a the studies by the CDC in
> 2013 and those by John Lott.
John Lott is a gun nut whose "work" has been debunked and dismissed as a bunch of biased, poorly supported junk. Hardly surprising that you morons would endorse such a fraud. Here is something from a FAR more credible source...
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1. Where there are more guns there is more homicide (literature review)
Our review of the academic literature found that a broad array of evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for homicide, both in the United States and across high-income countries. Case-control studies, ecological time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate that in homes, cities, states and regions in the U.S., where there are more guns, both men and women are at a higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/
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> In your search, look a the studies by the CDC in
> 2013 and those by John Lott.
John Lott is a gun nut whose "work" has been debunked and dismissed as a bunch of biased, poorly supported junk. Hardly surprising that you morons would endorse such a fraud. Here is something from a FAR more credible source...
---------
1. Where there are more guns there is more homicide (literature review)
Our review of the academic literature found that a broad array of evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for homicide, both in the United States and across high-income countries. Case-control studies, ecological time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate that in homes, cities, states and regions in the U.S., where there are more guns, both men and women are at a higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
LetsRock
()
Date: November 18, 2018 09:41AM
NRA Sucks! Wrote:
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> Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful
> Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
>
>
> After analyzing all of these studies, the
> researchers came up with three conclusions:
>
> 1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul -
> not just one new law - to see significant change.
>
> 2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase
> is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
>
> 3.Individual studies need to be better executed
> and planned in future to get more convincing
> results.
>
>
> Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
Gun control means hitting your target.
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> Review of More Than 130 Studies Provides Powerful
> Evidence That Gun Control Saves Lives!
>
>
> After analyzing all of these studies, the
> researchers came up with three conclusions:
>
> 1. It usually takes major legislation overhaul -
> not just one new law - to see significant change.
>
> 2. Restricting access to guns and their purchase
> is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
>
> 3.Individual studies need to be better executed
> and planned in future to get more convincing
> results.
>
>
> Yep, gun control saves lives every time...!
Gun control means hitting your target.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
So fucking dumb...
()
Date: November 18, 2018 09:46AM
Eric Swalwall Wrote:
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> Democrats only want weapons for their big
> government thugs. Wonder why?
It's amazing to me that ANYONE can seriously believe that they and their useless caches of small arms are going to be able to resist tyranny. That's just light years beyond stupid.
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> Democrats only want weapons for their big
> government thugs. Wonder why?
It's amazing to me that ANYONE can seriously believe that they and their useless caches of small arms are going to be able to resist tyranny. That's just light years beyond stupid.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
just thinking
()
Date: November 18, 2018 10:30AM
So fucking dumb... Wrote:
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> It's amazing to me that ANYONE can seriously
> believe that they and their useless caches of
> small arms are going to be able to resist tyranny.
> That's just light years beyond stupid.
^^^^^^^ Typical liberal thinking...
We who believe in the second amendment are fucking stupid and the founding fathers who believed that a government could get to the point of becoming aggressive against it's own people were also ignorant about human nature.
Our intelligent founding fathers (whose writings most average Americans would struggle to read) sought to place safeguards in the system such as arming "the people" because they realized how governments can be overrun by power crazy politicians and citizens who simply vote for the betterment of their own situation rather than the betterment of the nation.
It is also not my "useless cache of small arms" that would deter your wonderful group of socialist liberals in the government if they decided to take action against their own people, rather ALL THE OTHER GUN OWNERS in the nation that would gather together to defeat tyranny.
Meanwhile you'll be trying to get that perfect purple dye in your hair as you get ready for more RESIST protests from your parents basement!
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> It's amazing to me that ANYONE can seriously
> believe that they and their useless caches of
> small arms are going to be able to resist tyranny.
> That's just light years beyond stupid.
^^^^^^^ Typical liberal thinking...
We who believe in the second amendment are fucking stupid and the founding fathers who believed that a government could get to the point of becoming aggressive against it's own people were also ignorant about human nature.
Our intelligent founding fathers (whose writings most average Americans would struggle to read) sought to place safeguards in the system such as arming "the people" because they realized how governments can be overrun by power crazy politicians and citizens who simply vote for the betterment of their own situation rather than the betterment of the nation.
It is also not my "useless cache of small arms" that would deter your wonderful group of socialist liberals in the government if they decided to take action against their own people, rather ALL THE OTHER GUN OWNERS in the nation that would gather together to defeat tyranny.
Meanwhile you'll be trying to get that perfect purple dye in your hair as you get ready for more RESIST protests from your parents basement!
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Scholar
()
Date: November 18, 2018 11:00AM
Harm Reduction Wrote:
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>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
>
> > .
>
> That covers virtually everything the NRA says.
> The White House and the Fox News Group are the
> only organizations that are more deliberately
> dishonest than the NRA.
>
> And of course, higher rates of gun ownership do
> indeed correlate with higher rates of gun-related
> death and injury. There are more shark attacks in
> the ocean too, in case you dopes hadn't realized.
It covers everything that the gun grabbers, CNN and MSNBC say. The only things more dishonest than the DNC are the POST, MSNBC and CNN.
The theory that higher rates of firearm ownership correlate with higher rates of injury and death from firearms looks good on paper, but, from the statistics that I have seen, it does not play out empirically.
It is not much different from stating that seat belts reduce traffic fatalities. It looks good on paper, but if you compare NHTSA statistics on observed usage versus traffic fatality rates, you find interesting items such as this...........New Jersey, which consistently ranks near the top of Observed Usage Rates, also consistently ranks at the top of Traffic Fatality Rates. New Jersey has a primary law that is enforced, though not as viciously as it is in D.C. New Hampshire consistently ranks near the bottom of Observed Usage Rates. At the same time, it consistently ranks near the bottom of Traffic Fatality Rates. New Hampshire has no seat belt law.
Life is full of things that look good on paper but do not play out in reality.
The shark attacks in the ocean versus those on land is a bad analogy. It also sidesteps the question how anyone plans to get the guns from criminals. The programmes of gun "control" always have failed to take guns from criminals. All that any of them ever have done is take firearms away from law abiding citizens who need them for self defence. The judge in the initial HELLER case cited that, sepcifically.
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>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
>
> > .
>
> That covers virtually everything the NRA says.
> The White House and the Fox News Group are the
> only organizations that are more deliberately
> dishonest than the NRA.
>
> And of course, higher rates of gun ownership do
> indeed correlate with higher rates of gun-related
> death and injury. There are more shark attacks in
> the ocean too, in case you dopes hadn't realized.
It covers everything that the gun grabbers, CNN and MSNBC say. The only things more dishonest than the DNC are the POST, MSNBC and CNN.
The theory that higher rates of firearm ownership correlate with higher rates of injury and death from firearms looks good on paper, but, from the statistics that I have seen, it does not play out empirically.
It is not much different from stating that seat belts reduce traffic fatalities. It looks good on paper, but if you compare NHTSA statistics on observed usage versus traffic fatality rates, you find interesting items such as this...........New Jersey, which consistently ranks near the top of Observed Usage Rates, also consistently ranks at the top of Traffic Fatality Rates. New Jersey has a primary law that is enforced, though not as viciously as it is in D.C. New Hampshire consistently ranks near the bottom of Observed Usage Rates. At the same time, it consistently ranks near the bottom of Traffic Fatality Rates. New Hampshire has no seat belt law.
Life is full of things that look good on paper but do not play out in reality.
The shark attacks in the ocean versus those on land is a bad analogy. It also sidesteps the question how anyone plans to get the guns from criminals. The programmes of gun "control" always have failed to take guns from criminals. All that any of them ever have done is take firearms away from law abiding citizens who need them for self defence. The judge in the initial HELLER case cited that, sepcifically.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Pointer outer of things
()
Date: November 18, 2018 11:06AM
Guns bring only death and injury Wrote:
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> Pointer outer of things Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
>
> All sensible people support a woman's right to an
> abortion. In a free country, we do not compel
> women to give birth against their will.
>
> Meanwhile, nearly two-thirds of US households do
> not own or keep guns. They get shot up by you
> clowns anyway.
the 1st statement is false. The definition of "sensible" is NOT "someone who agrees with liberals"
the 2nd statement has nothing to do with the 1st. It also contains lies. If 2/3 of the households were being shot up by legitimate gun owners, 2A wouldda' been gone a long time ago. this is liberal sensationalism, just what I expect from MSNPC and NPCNN programmed libtomatons. The people who get shot get shot by the armed, violent negro criminals liberals want to coddle. If libs would stop coddling violent negro criminals, you wouldn't have most of the gun crime you do.
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> Pointer outer of things Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
>
> All sensible people support a woman's right to an
> abortion. In a free country, we do not compel
> women to give birth against their will.
>
> Meanwhile, nearly two-thirds of US households do
> not own or keep guns. They get shot up by you
> clowns anyway.
the 1st statement is false. The definition of "sensible" is NOT "someone who agrees with liberals"
the 2nd statement has nothing to do with the 1st. It also contains lies. If 2/3 of the households were being shot up by legitimate gun owners, 2A wouldda' been gone a long time ago. this is liberal sensationalism, just what I expect from MSNPC and NPCNN programmed libtomatons. The people who get shot get shot by the armed, violent negro criminals liberals want to coddle. If libs would stop coddling violent negro criminals, you wouldn't have most of the gun crime you do.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
wwjjv
()
Date: November 18, 2018 11:11AM
NRA sold (sells) death and dismemberment insurance to gun owners, with the doughnut of getting a free magazine if you sign up worth aparently the cost of the insurance.
Admittedly they've lied in the media about their "original contract" and used the money burning it up in the media and fake lobbying support - MUCH reducing the insurance payouts. But i believe they still pay cases, just a personal belief.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
XB4DY
()
Date: November 18, 2018 11:12AM
So fucking dumb... Wrote:
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> Eric Swalwall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Democrats only want weapons for their big
> > government thugs. Wonder why?
>
> It's amazing to me that ANYONE can seriously
> believe that they and their useless caches of
> small arms are going to be able to resist tyranny.
> That's just light years beyond stupid.
If you discount the 18th cent case where a bunch of crazy farmers armed w/blunderbusses, stolen weapons and outdated French weapons successfully resisted tyranny, you can consider how a bunch of guys with mostly caches of small arms and jerry rigged explosives held off Soviet tyrants in Afghanistan. You can also consider how the same type of guys managed to expel Americans from Viet Nam and are giving them a hard time in Afghanistan and Iraq. Then you have Hezbollah in Lebanon fought the Israelis to a stalemate last time they went in south Lebanon.
What is it libs like to yell?
"The People United will NOT be defeated!"...........sound familiar?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Eric Swalwall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Democrats only want weapons for their big
> > government thugs. Wonder why?
>
> It's amazing to me that ANYONE can seriously
> believe that they and their useless caches of
> small arms are going to be able to resist tyranny.
> That's just light years beyond stupid.
If you discount the 18th cent case where a bunch of crazy farmers armed w/blunderbusses, stolen weapons and outdated French weapons successfully resisted tyranny, you can consider how a bunch of guys with mostly caches of small arms and jerry rigged explosives held off Soviet tyrants in Afghanistan. You can also consider how the same type of guys managed to expel Americans from Viet Nam and are giving them a hard time in Afghanistan and Iraq. Then you have Hezbollah in Lebanon fought the Israelis to a stalemate last time they went in south Lebanon.
What is it libs like to yell?
"The People United will NOT be defeated!"...........sound familiar?
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
History lesson for guntards
()
Date: November 18, 2018 11:21AM
End of the Whiskey Rebellion...
President Washington himself rode at the head of an army to suppress the insurgency, with 13,000 militiamen provided by the governors of Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. The rebels all went home before the arrival of the army, and there was no confrontation. About 20 men were arrested, but all were later acquitted or pardoned.
The Whiskey Rebellion demonstrated that the new national government had the will and ability to suppress violent resistance to its laws
President Washington himself rode at the head of an army to suppress the insurgency, with 13,000 militiamen provided by the governors of Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. The rebels all went home before the arrival of the army, and there was no confrontation. About 20 men were arrested, but all were later acquitted or pardoned.
The Whiskey Rebellion demonstrated that the new national government had the will and ability to suppress violent resistance to its laws
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Guns bring only death and injury
()
Date: November 18, 2018 12:35PM
Pointer outer of things Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> the 1st statement is false. The definition of
> "sensible" is NOT "someone who agrees with liberals"
You don't meet ANY actual definition of SENSIBLE at all. No member of the ridiculous "Cult of the Fetus" can meet that bar. You need to consider that compulsory childbirth is not an American value,
> ...the 2nd statement has nothing to do with the 1st.
It does in the sense of being something that you don't understand at all.
> It also contains lies. If 2/3 of the households
> were being shot up by legitimate gun owners, 2A
> wouldda' been gone a long time ago. this is
> liberal sensationalism, just what I expect from
> MSNPC and NPCNN programmed libtomatons.
Roughly two-thirds of US households are too smart to keep guns in the home. They know and wish to avoid the elevated risk levels that they face if they do such a foolish thing as that. You on the other hand are not smart enough to know the proper contraction of 'would have.'
> The people who get shot get shot by the armed, violent
> negro criminals liberals want to coddle. If libs
> would stop coddling violent negro criminals, you
> wouldn't have most of the gun crime you do.
One of the things that thieves most like to steal is guns. YOUR guns. Assholes like you are a primary source for cheap street guns. If one of your ex-guns is used in a crime, you should get the same sentence as the perp. How does 20 years to life sound?
-------------------------------------------------------
> the 1st statement is false. The definition of
> "sensible" is NOT "someone who agrees with liberals"
You don't meet ANY actual definition of SENSIBLE at all. No member of the ridiculous "Cult of the Fetus" can meet that bar. You need to consider that compulsory childbirth is not an American value,
> ...the 2nd statement has nothing to do with the 1st.
It does in the sense of being something that you don't understand at all.
> It also contains lies. If 2/3 of the households
> were being shot up by legitimate gun owners, 2A
> wouldda' been gone a long time ago. this is
> liberal sensationalism, just what I expect from
> MSNPC and NPCNN programmed libtomatons.
Roughly two-thirds of US households are too smart to keep guns in the home. They know and wish to avoid the elevated risk levels that they face if they do such a foolish thing as that. You on the other hand are not smart enough to know the proper contraction of 'would have.'
> The people who get shot get shot by the armed, violent
> negro criminals liberals want to coddle. If libs
> would stop coddling violent negro criminals, you
> wouldn't have most of the gun crime you do.
One of the things that thieves most like to steal is guns. YOUR guns. Assholes like you are a primary source for cheap street guns. If one of your ex-guns is used in a crime, you should get the same sentence as the perp. How does 20 years to life sound?
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
history lesson for libtards
()
Date: November 18, 2018 12:42PM
History lesson for guntards Wrote:
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> End of the Whiskey Rebellion...
>
>
> The Whiskey Rebellion demonstrated that the new
> national government had the will and ability to
> suppress violent resistance to its laws
Some rebellions succeed, some get put down. It's happened thru out history & will keep happening. Several rebellions against the Shah were put down until 1 succeeded. Several rebellions against Soviet client states were put down until 1 succeeded. Several rebellions against the Marcos regime were put down until 1 succeeded.
It happens. Shit happens. history lesson for libTARDs, since thanks to the NEA & AFT, it's now uhpressiff 2 mayke stoodintz lurn histuhree onless itz whyte peepull R bedd.
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> End of the Whiskey Rebellion...
>
>
> The Whiskey Rebellion demonstrated that the new
> national government had the will and ability to
> suppress violent resistance to its laws
Some rebellions succeed, some get put down. It's happened thru out history & will keep happening. Several rebellions against the Shah were put down until 1 succeeded. Several rebellions against Soviet client states were put down until 1 succeeded. Several rebellions against the Marcos regime were put down until 1 succeeded.
It happens. Shit happens. history lesson for libTARDs, since thanks to the NEA & AFT, it's now uhpressiff 2 mayke stoodintz lurn histuhree onless itz whyte peepull R bedd.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Pointer outer of things
()
Date: November 18, 2018 01:08PM
Guns bring only death and injury Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
>
>
> You don't meet ANY actual definition of SENSIBLE
> at all. No member of the ridiculous "Cult of the
> Fetus" can meet that bar. You need to consider
> that compulsory childbirth is not an American
> value,
>
In other words, what I said holds up. The definition of "sensible" is NOT "somebody who agrees with a liberal". You've provided nothing to discount that, only trying to rephrase what your DNC programmers have put in you.
> > ...
>
>
> It does in the sense of being something that you
> don't understand at all.
>
& again, in other words, what I said holds up. The 2nd statement has nothing to do with the 1st. You give no proof or explanation, all you do is contradict and because you think you're so much smarter than anybody who disagrees with you, you don't think you have to. That's elitist liberal arrogance at its height. you're not very smart at all, here, or anywhere else, either.
> >
> l MSNPC and NPCNN programmed libtomatons.
>
> Roughly two-thirds of US households are too smart
> to keep guns in the home. They know and wish to
> avoid the elevated risk levels that they face if
> they do such a foolish thing as that. You on the
> other hand are not smart enough to know the proper
> contraction of 'would have.'
>
For someone who puts on airs of superiority & is such a fucking know it all, youdda' thunk ya' couldda' seen the spelled wrong contraction was on purpose. No, you're just too dull to figure that out, Once more, you prove you're really not very smart.
The real way to say it is roughly 2/3 of US households cHOOSE not to have guns. You have rights & you can choose to exercise them or not. Besides, that number has about as much to do with this argument as a essay on a fish riding a bicycle, never mind your DNC dog trainers who blow the whistle and you type your selective things about "choice" Your dog trainers only want you to have the choices they say you can have. Nobody with any brains wants that BS, but since you surrendered your brain functions to your DNC programmers a long time ago, you're too clouded to get it.
Finally, where's your proof of the 2/3 of the households with no guns are supposably getting shot up by these right wing white rednecks from the 1/3 that have them? you have none, that's where it is. No connection there, either, there, Skippy.
Liberal lies and sensationalism exposed AGAIN!
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> One of the things that thieves most like to steal
> is guns. YOUR guns. Assholes like you are a
> primary source for cheap street guns. If one of
> your ex-guns is used in a crime, you should get
> the same sentence as the perp. How does 20 years
> to life sound?
According to KNTV, guns are #6 out of 13. That means there's 5 other things burglars prefer, although in your case, since you're a turd burglar, you only want to steal turds as you range the rump. but, back to it, burglars want cash, drugs, jewelry, TVs & gaming consoles plus phones or computers before they want guns. You can only carry so much outta' house, there, Jethro.
Thieves like to steal anything they can sell. one more, no connection.
This BS still doesn't answer how you get the guns away from negro criminals. Negro criminals are still getting guns in Balto & Chi where people supposedly can't have them. The same is true in Dc. How can burglars steal them if they're not there to steal b/c people can't have them.
You FAIL again. Total complete EPIC FAIL. That should be your ID on FFXU. Every shitpost of yours fAILS completely. That's why they're called shitposts.
Take the poopoo you're selling somewhere else, like where other programmed liberal lemmings are, b/c they're the only ones who want to buy it. Nobody here with any brains wants to buy it. You're nothing but a shitselling shitposter who's stupid, too.
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
>
>
> You don't meet ANY actual definition of SENSIBLE
> at all. No member of the ridiculous "Cult of the
> Fetus" can meet that bar. You need to consider
> that compulsory childbirth is not an American
> value,
>
In other words, what I said holds up. The definition of "sensible" is NOT "somebody who agrees with a liberal". You've provided nothing to discount that, only trying to rephrase what your DNC programmers have put in you.
> > ...
>
>
> It does in the sense of being something that you
> don't understand at all.
>
& again, in other words, what I said holds up. The 2nd statement has nothing to do with the 1st. You give no proof or explanation, all you do is contradict and because you think you're so much smarter than anybody who disagrees with you, you don't think you have to. That's elitist liberal arrogance at its height. you're not very smart at all, here, or anywhere else, either.
> >
> l MSNPC and NPCNN programmed libtomatons.
>
> Roughly two-thirds of US households are too smart
> to keep guns in the home. They know and wish to
> avoid the elevated risk levels that they face if
> they do such a foolish thing as that. You on the
> other hand are not smart enough to know the proper
> contraction of 'would have.'
>
For someone who puts on airs of superiority & is such a fucking know it all, youdda' thunk ya' couldda' seen the spelled wrong contraction was on purpose. No, you're just too dull to figure that out, Once more, you prove you're really not very smart.
The real way to say it is roughly 2/3 of US households cHOOSE not to have guns. You have rights & you can choose to exercise them or not. Besides, that number has about as much to do with this argument as a essay on a fish riding a bicycle, never mind your DNC dog trainers who blow the whistle and you type your selective things about "choice" Your dog trainers only want you to have the choices they say you can have. Nobody with any brains wants that BS, but since you surrendered your brain functions to your DNC programmers a long time ago, you're too clouded to get it.
Finally, where's your proof of the 2/3 of the households with no guns are supposably getting shot up by these right wing white rednecks from the 1/3 that have them? you have none, that's where it is. No connection there, either, there, Skippy.
Liberal lies and sensationalism exposed AGAIN!
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> One of the things that thieves most like to steal
> is guns. YOUR guns. Assholes like you are a
> primary source for cheap street guns. If one of
> your ex-guns is used in a crime, you should get
> the same sentence as the perp. How does 20 years
> to life sound?
According to KNTV, guns are #6 out of 13. That means there's 5 other things burglars prefer, although in your case, since you're a turd burglar, you only want to steal turds as you range the rump. but, back to it, burglars want cash, drugs, jewelry, TVs & gaming consoles plus phones or computers before they want guns. You can only carry so much outta' house, there, Jethro.
Thieves like to steal anything they can sell. one more, no connection.
This BS still doesn't answer how you get the guns away from negro criminals. Negro criminals are still getting guns in Balto & Chi where people supposedly can't have them. The same is true in Dc. How can burglars steal them if they're not there to steal b/c people can't have them.
You FAIL again. Total complete EPIC FAIL. That should be your ID on FFXU. Every shitpost of yours fAILS completely. That's why they're called shitposts.
Take the poopoo you're selling somewhere else, like where other programmed liberal lemmings are, b/c they're the only ones who want to buy it. Nobody here with any brains wants to buy it. You're nothing but a shitselling shitposter who's stupid, too.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Guns bring only death and injury
()
Date: November 18, 2018 02:23PM
Homes with cars in the driveway that have NRA bumperstickers on them are to thieves what nectar is to hummingbirds. Guns are easy to identify, easy to hide, easy to carry, and easy to sell for high dollars.
As for all these urban thugs that you fear so greatly, why not support laws that allow police to confiscate weapons they spot outside of someone’s home? That would help get guns off the streets, don’t you think?
As for all these urban thugs that you fear so greatly, why not support laws that allow police to confiscate weapons they spot outside of someone’s home? That would help get guns off the streets, don’t you think?
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Pointer outer of things
()
Date: November 18, 2018 10:32PM
Guns bring only death and injury Wrote:
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> Homes with cars in the driveway that have NRA
> bumperstickers on them are to thieves what nectar
> is to hummingbirds. Guns are easy to identify,
> easy to hide, easy to carry, and easy to sell for
> high dollars.
U can't prove that. If what U said was true, guns would B the top thing taken, not 5th on the list. The burglars can sell phones and computers faster than they can sell guns.
>
> As for all these urban thugs that you fear so
> greatly, why not support laws that allow police to
> confiscate weapons they spot outside of
> someone’s home? That would help get guns off
> the streets, don’t you think?
Now u've just proved what a moron U R. How many thugs just go walking down the street with their guns in plain sight? Yeah, right Skippy. Bad try, & no thanks 4 playing, either.
What a disgrace.
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> Homes with cars in the driveway that have NRA
> bumperstickers on them are to thieves what nectar
> is to hummingbirds. Guns are easy to identify,
> easy to hide, easy to carry, and easy to sell for
> high dollars.
U can't prove that. If what U said was true, guns would B the top thing taken, not 5th on the list. The burglars can sell phones and computers faster than they can sell guns.
>
> As for all these urban thugs that you fear so
> greatly, why not support laws that allow police to
> confiscate weapons they spot outside of
> someone’s home? That would help get guns off
> the streets, don’t you think?
Now u've just proved what a moron U R. How many thugs just go walking down the street with their guns in plain sight? Yeah, right Skippy. Bad try, & no thanks 4 playing, either.
What a disgrace.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
NoMo
()
Date: November 19, 2018 09:27AM
LOL... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> NoMo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In your search, look a the studies by the CDC
> in
> > 2013 and those by John Lott.
>
> John Lott is a gun nut whose "work" has been
> debunked and dismissed as a bunch of biased,
> poorly supported junk. Hardly surprising that you
> morons would endorse such a fraud. Here is
> something from a FAR more credible source...
>
> ---------
>
> 1. Where there are more guns there is more
> homicide (literature review)
>
> Our review of the academic literature found that a
> broad array of evidence indicates that gun
> availability is a risk factor for homicide, both
> in the United States and across high-income
> countries. Case-control studies, ecological
> time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate
> that in homes, cities, states and regions in the
> U.S., where there are more guns, both men and
> women are at a higher risk for homicide,
> particularly firearm homicide.
>
> https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-resear
> ch/guns-and-death/
The cite you give is a from the T H Chan school at Harvard, chaired by David Hemenway, who co-authored all the articles. Since you raise the issue of John Lott's biases and integrity, it's only fair to look at Dr. Hemenway's biases and integrity.
-----------
David Hemenway wrote an op-ed that was originally published in the Los Angeles Times and then picked up in many other newspapers.
David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.
That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.
Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns. There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.
— John R. Lott, Jr., president, Crime Prevention Research Center, Swarthmore, Pennsylvania
More information on our survey is available here (the original survey), here (an op-ed at Fox News by John Lott (note that unlike Hemenway, Lott doesn’t hide the other poll)), and here (some news coverage in the Washington Times where David Hemenway was interviewed about our survey). For a comparison of our survey results for criminologists and economists see here (media coverage of it here, here, here, and here).
In addition, there were other mistakes in Henenway’s op-ed. For example, while he claims that 150 people answered the survey, some responses are as low as 85 or 96. The numbers are less than 122 for all but two. The 150 responses was true for only one question, but he makes it look like that was true for all of them. The big difference between the CPRC surveys and those by Hemenway is that the CPRC surveys are limited to academics who have published peer-reviewed empirical research, to be included in the Hemenway surveys academics merely had to mention the terms “firearms” or “guns.”
---------
https://crimeresearch.org/2015/05/correcting-the-record-on-david-hemenways-claim-that-academics-support-gun-control/
...
-------------------------------------------------------
> NoMo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In your search, look a the studies by the CDC
> in
> > 2013 and those by John Lott.
>
> John Lott is a gun nut whose "work" has been
> debunked and dismissed as a bunch of biased,
> poorly supported junk. Hardly surprising that you
> morons would endorse such a fraud. Here is
> something from a FAR more credible source...
>
> ---------
>
> 1. Where there are more guns there is more
> homicide (literature review)
>
> Our review of the academic literature found that a
> broad array of evidence indicates that gun
> availability is a risk factor for homicide, both
> in the United States and across high-income
> countries. Case-control studies, ecological
> time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate
> that in homes, cities, states and regions in the
> U.S., where there are more guns, both men and
> women are at a higher risk for homicide,
> particularly firearm homicide.
>
> https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-resear
> ch/guns-and-death/
The cite you give is a from the T H Chan school at Harvard, chaired by David Hemenway, who co-authored all the articles. Since you raise the issue of John Lott's biases and integrity, it's only fair to look at Dr. Hemenway's biases and integrity.
-----------
David Hemenway wrote an op-ed that was originally published in the Los Angeles Times and then picked up in many other newspapers.
David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.
That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.
Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns. There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.
— John R. Lott, Jr., president, Crime Prevention Research Center, Swarthmore, Pennsylvania
More information on our survey is available here (the original survey), here (an op-ed at Fox News by John Lott (note that unlike Hemenway, Lott doesn’t hide the other poll)), and here (some news coverage in the Washington Times where David Hemenway was interviewed about our survey). For a comparison of our survey results for criminologists and economists see here (media coverage of it here, here, here, and here).
In addition, there were other mistakes in Henenway’s op-ed. For example, while he claims that 150 people answered the survey, some responses are as low as 85 or 96. The numbers are less than 122 for all but two. The 150 responses was true for only one question, but he makes it look like that was true for all of them. The big difference between the CPRC surveys and those by Hemenway is that the CPRC surveys are limited to academics who have published peer-reviewed empirical research, to be included in the Hemenway surveys academics merely had to mention the terms “firearms” or “guns.”
---------
https://crimeresearch.org/2015/05/correcting-the-record-on-david-hemenways-claim-that-academics-support-gun-control/
...
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
LOL...
()
Date: November 19, 2018 10:07AM
^^^ Your low-grade dumptruck tactics are duly noted and duly ignored. Lott is a widely known and (on account of his pervasive lying) widely disrespected shill. Hemenway is a hack only in the eyes of the blind clerics of the NRA. Well, I guess to some deluded partisans as well.
Meanwhile, there isn't any longer actual debate about guns in the academic world. This is part of what drove the ACP's complaints. To summarize, guns are an extreme and pointless factor in plagues of needless death and mayhem. Smoking can lead to cancer as well. Remember back when you reactionary clowns went about trying to deny that as well?
Meanwhile, there isn't any longer actual debate about guns in the academic world. This is part of what drove the ACP's complaints. To summarize, guns are an extreme and pointless factor in plagues of needless death and mayhem. Smoking can lead to cancer as well. Remember back when you reactionary clowns went about trying to deny that as well?
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Abortion bring only death&injury
()
Date: November 19, 2018 10:22AM
Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> All sensible people support a woman's right to an
> abortion. In a free country, we do not compel
> women to give birth against their will.
>
> Meanwhile, nearly two-thirds of US households do
> not own or keep guns. They get shot up by you
> clowns anyway.
48% consider themselves pro-life. 48% consider themselves pro-Abortion. 68% think abortion should be available only under certain circumstances or never. All according to the last Gallup poll earlier this year. Once again, you lie and have no idea wtf you're talking about. Keep up the great work gramps. You ability to be wrong so often is truly a gift.
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> All sensible people support a woman's right to an
> abortion. In a free country, we do not compel
> women to give birth against their will.
>
> Meanwhile, nearly two-thirds of US households do
> not own or keep guns. They get shot up by you
> clowns anyway.
48% consider themselves pro-life. 48% consider themselves pro-Abortion. 68% think abortion should be available only under certain circumstances or never. All according to the last Gallup poll earlier this year. Once again, you lie and have no idea wtf you're talking about. Keep up the great work gramps. You ability to be wrong so often is truly a gift.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
We got it all worked out
()
Date: November 19, 2018 10:25AM
So fucking dumb... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Eric Swalwall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Democrats only want weapons for their big
> > government thugs. Wonder why?
>
> It's amazing to me that ANYONE can seriously
> believe that they and their useless caches of
> small arms are going to be able to resist tyranny.
> That's just light years beyond stupid.
Then we'll make sure we kill all the assholes like you instead. That will be a markedly noticeable improvement from the current state of shittyness the country is experiencing. The only good liberal is a dead liberal.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Eric Swalwall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Democrats only want weapons for their big
> > government thugs. Wonder why?
>
> It's amazing to me that ANYONE can seriously
> believe that they and their useless caches of
> small arms are going to be able to resist tyranny.
> That's just light years beyond stupid.
Then we'll make sure we kill all the assholes like you instead. That will be a markedly noticeable improvement from the current state of shittyness the country is experiencing. The only good liberal is a dead liberal.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
You can't stop gun ownership
()
Date: November 19, 2018 10:32AM
Guns can now be printed.
There used to be hundreds of vids on youtube showing how to build a home made gun with materials you can get at any hardware store (since removed) but they're out there.
Guns aren't needed to kill hundreds of people. One guy with a truck full of fertilizer killed almost 200 people in 30 seconds.
the largest growth in gun sales has been to women. They've learned they can not count on the local authorities for protection.
There used to be hundreds of vids on youtube showing how to build a home made gun with materials you can get at any hardware store (since removed) but they're out there.
Guns aren't needed to kill hundreds of people. One guy with a truck full of fertilizer killed almost 200 people in 30 seconds.
the largest growth in gun sales has been to women. They've learned they can not count on the local authorities for protection.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Modus Ponens
()
Date: November 19, 2018 10:32AM
Liberal Insanity Wrote:
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> Compare gun ownership laws in DC vs VA.
> Now compare violent crime rates.
>
>
> Now STFU, moronic libtards!
Sadly, no amount of logic can make it's way into a lib's skull, nor shut its shrill screams.
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> Compare gun ownership laws in DC vs VA.
> Now compare violent crime rates.
>
>
> Now STFU, moronic libtards!
Sadly, no amount of logic can make it's way into a lib's skull, nor shut its shrill screams.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Liberal's IQ < 50
()
Date: November 19, 2018 10:33AM
Outlawing guns won't do anything except make criminals out of law abiding citizens. Why don't they outlaw forest fires while they're at it. That'll stop 'em.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
NoMo
()
Date: November 19, 2018 11:31AM
LOL... Wrote:
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> ^^^ Your low-grade dumptruck tactics are duly
> noted and duly ignored. Lott is a widely known
> and (on account of his pervasive lying) widely
> disrespected shill. Hemenway is a hack only in
> the eyes of the blind clerics of the NRA. Well, I
> guess to some deluded partisans as well.
>
But at least we now have verification that you are just a low-grade fool whose mind is closed as tight as a frog's asshole. No new ideas enter and what comes out is just crap. People like you are just like Galileo's critics (who were the academics of their day) - damned sure of themselves and their superiority but so damned wrong. It's obvious that you don't have anything to offer the discussion but your own bigotry. You want to argue personalities, not facts.
Your nonsense theory can't explain how VA, with the least restrictive gun control, has the lowest homicide rate, so you deflect to a study which says it can't be so, all the smart people know the facts have to be wrong. Which do you believe, you ask, this brilliant study or your lying eyes?
Libtards like you live in a fantasy world. You don't need facts because you already have all the answers. Anyone who disputes you has to be a liar, because you can't possibly be wrong. Pathetic.
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> ^^^ Your low-grade dumptruck tactics are duly
> noted and duly ignored. Lott is a widely known
> and (on account of his pervasive lying) widely
> disrespected shill. Hemenway is a hack only in
> the eyes of the blind clerics of the NRA. Well, I
> guess to some deluded partisans as well.
>
But at least we now have verification that you are just a low-grade fool whose mind is closed as tight as a frog's asshole. No new ideas enter and what comes out is just crap. People like you are just like Galileo's critics (who were the academics of their day) - damned sure of themselves and their superiority but so damned wrong. It's obvious that you don't have anything to offer the discussion but your own bigotry. You want to argue personalities, not facts.
Your nonsense theory can't explain how VA, with the least restrictive gun control, has the lowest homicide rate, so you deflect to a study which says it can't be so, all the smart people know the facts have to be wrong. Which do you believe, you ask, this brilliant study or your lying eyes?
Libtards like you live in a fantasy world. You don't need facts because you already have all the answers. Anyone who disputes you has to be a liar, because you can't possibly be wrong. Pathetic.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
LOL...
()
Date: November 19, 2018 11:50AM
Abortion bring only death&injury Wrote:
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> 48% consider themselves pro-life. Regi
Everyone is pro-life, dummy. But that’s a very long way from your dogma-based asshole regimes of compulsory childbirth.
> Once again, you lie and have no idea wtf you're
> talking about.
Save it for study hall, Junior. You are a clueless babbling know-nothing moron.
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> 48% consider themselves pro-life. Regi
Everyone is pro-life, dummy. But that’s a very long way from your dogma-based asshole regimes of compulsory childbirth.
> Once again, you lie and have no idea wtf you're
> talking about.
Save it for study hall, Junior. You are a clueless babbling know-nothing moron.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Guns bring only death and injury
()
Date: November 19, 2018 11:57AM
It is a simple fact that in states with higher rates of gun ownership, there are also higher rates of gun-related death and mayhem. This holds true not just for the US, it in all the usual comparable places as well. All the deflection in the world isn’t going to change the facts.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Abortion bring only death&injury
()
Date: November 19, 2018 12:03PM
It's a simple fact that two lives enter an abortion clinic D&I death chamber and only one walks out. This holds true in 99.9999% of the cases.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Cult of the Fetus
()
Date: November 19, 2018 12:08PM
Same for colonoscopies?
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
5-0
()
Date: November 19, 2018 03:21PM
Want to reduce gun killing? If you subtract all of the gun killings in the US by the number of killings committed by non-whites, you would have the same level of gun killings they have in Europe. Hummmm. What does that tell you?
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Sparks
()
Date: November 19, 2018 03:48PM
A common sense solution to the problem of gun violence in America.
Here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lFAjxtu3U0U
Here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lFAjxtu3U0U
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Bullshit for Gun Nuts!
()
Date: November 19, 2018 04:30PM
5-0 Wrote:
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> Want to reduce gun killing? If you subtract all of
> the gun killings in the US by the number of
> killings committed by non-whites, you would have
> the same level of gun killings they have in
> Europe. Hummmm. What does that tell you?
Really...? Do you have links for this?
This sounds like bullshit.
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> Want to reduce gun killing? If you subtract all of
> the gun killings in the US by the number of
> killings committed by non-whites, you would have
> the same level of gun killings they have in
> Europe. Hummmm. What does that tell you?
Really...? Do you have links for this?
This sounds like bullshit.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
NoMo
()
Date: November 19, 2018 05:35PM
Guns bring only death and injury Wrote:
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> It is a simple fact that in states with higher
> rates of gun ownership, there are also higher
> rates of gun-related death and mayhem. This holds
> true not just for the US, it in all the usual
> comparable places as well. All the deflection in
> the world isn’t going to change the facts.
As with many things that everybody knows, it ain't so.
Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders
The United States can really be divided up into three types of places. Places where there are no murders, places where there are a few murders, and places where murders are very common.
In 2014, the most recent year that a county level breakdown is available, 54% of counties (with 11% of the population) have no murders. 69% of counties have no more than one murder, and about 20% of the population. These counties account for only 4% of all murders in the country.
The worst 1% of counties have 19% of the population and 37% of the murders. The worst 5% of counties contain 47% of the population and account for 68% of murders. As shown in figure 2, over half of murders occurred in only 2% of counties.
https://crimeresearch.org/2017/04/number-murders-county-54-us-counties-2014-zero-murders-69-1-murder/
A much longer article comparing international rates.
https://crimeresearch.org/2014/03/comparing-murder-rates-across-countries/
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> It is a simple fact that in states with higher
> rates of gun ownership, there are also higher
> rates of gun-related death and mayhem. This holds
> true not just for the US, it in all the usual
> comparable places as well. All the deflection in
> the world isn’t going to change the facts.
As with many things that everybody knows, it ain't so.
Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders
The United States can really be divided up into three types of places. Places where there are no murders, places where there are a few murders, and places where murders are very common.
In 2014, the most recent year that a county level breakdown is available, 54% of counties (with 11% of the population) have no murders. 69% of counties have no more than one murder, and about 20% of the population. These counties account for only 4% of all murders in the country.
The worst 1% of counties have 19% of the population and 37% of the murders. The worst 5% of counties contain 47% of the population and account for 68% of murders. As shown in figure 2, over half of murders occurred in only 2% of counties.
https://crimeresearch.org/2017/04/number-murders-county-54-us-counties-2014-zero-murders-69-1-murder/
A much longer article comparing international rates.
https://crimeresearch.org/2014/03/comparing-murder-rates-across-countries/
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
LOL...
()
Date: November 19, 2018 06:25PM
“CrimeResearch” is a junk-science site run by the mega-liar John Lott. Only lying assholes try to pass off that rot as anything close to legit.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Official FFU FIFY'er
()
Date: November 19, 2018 06:28PM
LOL... Wrote:
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>“CrimeResearch” is a junk-science site run by
> the mega-liar John Lott. Only lying assholes try
> to pass off that rot as anything close to legit.
> Welp, looks like I got rekt'd again. About time
> to fall back to the "2nd amendment was about the
> negros" canard. That always changes the subject
> after I get caught in one of my many lies.
FIFY
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>
> the mega-liar John Lott. Only lying assholes try
> to pass off that rot as anything close to legit.
> Welp, looks like I got rekt'd again. About time
> to fall back to the "2nd amendment was about the
> negros" canard. That always changes the subject
> after I get caught in one of my many lies.
FIFY
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Gun-free zone...
()
Date: November 19, 2018 06:33PM
FIFY = ASSHOLE. An even bigger one than the worthless lying crook, John Lott.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
NoMo
()
Date: November 19, 2018 06:38PM
LOL... Wrote:
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> “CrimeResearch” is a junk-science site run by
> the mega-liar John Lott. Only lying assholes try
> to pass off that rot as anything close to legit.
LOL is a mega-liar who tries to pass off character assassination and name calling as proof. He thinks deep thinking is inserting his head up his butt past the shoulders.
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> “CrimeResearch” is a junk-science site run by
> the mega-liar John Lott. Only lying assholes try
> to pass off that rot as anything close to legit.
LOL is a mega-liar who tries to pass off character assassination and name calling as proof. He thinks deep thinking is inserting his head up his butt past the shoulders.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Micheal J. Smith ex-IRS shithead
()
Date: November 19, 2018 06:38PM
Gun-free zone... Wrote:
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> FIFY = ASSHOLE. An even bigger one than the
> worthless lying crook, John Lott.
He's kicking your tired old ass all over this site. How does that make you feel? lol
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> FIFY = ASSHOLE. An even bigger one than the
> worthless lying crook, John Lott.
He's kicking your tired old ass all over this site. How does that make you feel? lol
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Shooting blanks...
()
Date: November 19, 2018 06:52PM
In addition to being a top-ranked ASSHOLE, FIFY is a clueless stooge who poses only a risk of inducing painful, side-splitting laughter.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Sparks
()
Date: November 19, 2018 07:51PM
Who ever saw a house with a gun free home sign in the front yard?
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Eric S has a BIG Problem
()
Date: November 19, 2018 08:03PM
His despicable statement about nuking Americans over gun control. What a sick SOB leftist.
The US military is not on the lefts side or the Democrats if it ever comes to chose sides, they are on Gods side , the rights side, not the lefts. The right upholds the Constitution, the left try's to subvert it
Hopefully the Democrats with the leftists infiltrating them will screw up everything so bad the people will vote them into extinction, the way the founders set it all up
The US military is not on the lefts side or the Democrats if it ever comes to chose sides, they are on Gods side , the rights side, not the lefts. The right upholds the Constitution, the left try's to subvert it
Hopefully the Democrats with the leftists infiltrating them will screw up everything so bad the people will vote them into extinction, the way the founders set it all up
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
5-0
()
Date: November 19, 2018 08:09PM
Just Google “murder rate in US by non whites”. The second result by “asch.org”, in my opinion, pretty well says it all.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
FIXER OF |T FOR YOU
()
Date: November 19, 2018 10:22PM
Shooting blanks... Wrote:
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> In addition to being a top-ranked ASSHOLE, FIFY is
> a clueless stooge who poses only a risk of
> inducing painful, side-splitting laughter.
How does it feel to when a "top-ranked ASSHOLE clueless stooge" has everybody laughing that " painful side splitting laughter" AT YOU!!!????????????!!?!?!?!????
Never mind this "top-ranked ASSHOLE clueless stooge" is living in your head RENT FREE!
HOW does it feel, libetain? .............How DOES it feel??????????
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> In addition to being a top-ranked ASSHOLE, FIFY is
> a clueless stooge who poses only a risk of
> inducing painful, side-splitting laughter.
How does it feel to when a "top-ranked ASSHOLE clueless stooge" has everybody laughing that " painful side splitting laughter" AT YOU!!!????????????!!?!?!?!????
Never mind this "top-ranked ASSHOLE clueless stooge" is living in your head RENT FREE!
HOW does it feel, libetain? .............How DOES it feel??????????
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
LOL...
()
Date: November 19, 2018 10:24PM
LOL... Wrote:
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> I NEED the BBC NOW!
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> I NEED the BBC NOW!
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
5-0
()
Date: November 20, 2018 05:36AM
CDC Report... 2.9 homicides per 100,000 population by white perpetrators in the US. UNODC Report... 3.0 homicides per 100,000 population by all perpetrators in Europe.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
5-0
()
Date: November 20, 2018 05:44AM
Like I observed above, subtract all the murders committed by non whites in the US and we have about the same murder rate as Europe. Do some basic research before calling “Bullshit”.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
5-0
()
Date: November 20, 2018 05:46AM
Inconvenient Truth..Huh?
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Last White Man in Sterling
()
Date: November 20, 2018 05:56AM
Don't care what you think I love my guns more than your niglett children.
Attachments:
Attachments:
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Facts of the matter
()
Date: November 20, 2018 09:45AM
Eric S has a BIG Problem Wrote:
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> The right upholds the Constitution, the left try's to subvert it
LOL! The left upholds the US Constitution first drafted in Philadelphia in 1787. The right rejects that document entirely. Instead they uphold the Bizarro Constitution first drafted in a variety of anti-social right-wing 'think tanks' during in the late 20th century.
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> The right upholds the Constitution, the left try's to subvert it
LOL! The left upholds the US Constitution first drafted in Philadelphia in 1787. The right rejects that document entirely. Instead they uphold the Bizarro Constitution first drafted in a variety of anti-social right-wing 'think tanks' during in the late 20th century.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
FIXER OF |T FOR YOU
()
Date: November 20, 2018 10:06AM
Facts of the matter Wrote:
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> Eric S has a BIG Problem Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The right upholds the Constitution, the left
> try's to subvert it
>
> LOL! Thelefright upholds the US Constitution first
> drafted in Philadelphia in 1787. Therighleft
> rejects that document entirely. Instead they
> uphold the Bizarro Constitution first drafted in a
> variety of anti-socialrighleft-wing 'think tanks'
>during in the late 20th century.
FIFY
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> Eric S has a BIG Problem Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The right upholds the Constitution, the left
> try's to subvert it
>
> LOL! The
> drafted in Philadelphia in 1787. The
> rejects that document entirely. Instead they
> uphold the Bizarro Constitution first drafted in a
> variety of anti-social
>
FIFY
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
The Educator
()
Date: November 20, 2018 10:17AM
5-0 Wrote:
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> Like I observed above, subtract all the murders
> committed by non whites in the US and we have
> about the same murder rate as Europe. Do some
> basic research before calling “Bullshit”.
N.B.: Should have been 'As I observed above'.
Meanwhile, white and black murder rates had moved more or less in tandem over the first part of this century, but they began to diverge in 2015. The black rate has increased faster since, but because there are so many more whites than blacks, it is the only slightly smaller spike in the white murder rate that has driven overall increases.
In the white community, increases have been strongly associated with advancing aspects of a new round of drug wars related to meth and opioids.
In the black community, increases have come in communal withdrawal following high profile, unjustified, and unpunished murders of black youths by police.
In both communities, there has been an increase in willingness to resort to violence, as well as reductions in police ability to confiscate guns they find on the streets. Neither of those is a helpful thing.
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> Like I observed above, subtract all the murders
> committed by non whites in the US and we have
> about the same murder rate as Europe. Do some
> basic research before calling “Bullshit”.
N.B.: Should have been 'As I observed above'.
Meanwhile, white and black murder rates had moved more or less in tandem over the first part of this century, but they began to diverge in 2015. The black rate has increased faster since, but because there are so many more whites than blacks, it is the only slightly smaller spike in the white murder rate that has driven overall increases.
In the white community, increases have been strongly associated with advancing aspects of a new round of drug wars related to meth and opioids.
In the black community, increases have come in communal withdrawal following high profile, unjustified, and unpunished murders of black youths by police.
In both communities, there has been an increase in willingness to resort to violence, as well as reductions in police ability to confiscate guns they find on the streets. Neither of those is a helpful thing.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Sparks
()
Date: November 20, 2018 12:09PM
What niggers think about Chicago's strict gun control.
Here:
Heyjackass.com
Here:
Heyjackass.com
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Hmmm...
()
Date: November 20, 2018 12:13PM
You clowns weaken your argument every time you post.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
The NRA The NRA The NRA
()
Date: November 20, 2018 01:14PM
That's 5 million law abiding Americans, there's 100 million plus that own guns and don't want their rights taken only 1 in 20 really belong to the NRA and all of these people are of every political party or none at all
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Red Herring Leftists At Work
()
Date: November 20, 2018 01:19PM
The racist remarks are all coming from leftist Democrat activists to create disrespect for gun owners, its all a part of their commie manifesto to destroy the Constitution and the USA from within
Khrushchev "We will bury You " No one ever thought that statement was from within our own country until today
Khrushchev "We will bury You " No one ever thought that statement was from within our own country until today
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Facts About Gun Crimes
()
Date: November 20, 2018 01:22PM
With regard to race are not racist, they are facts and that's it. Using known N words are not facts they are racist remarks made by the above described leftists as a deceptive tactic for total gun control
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
The Law of The Land
()
Date: November 20, 2018 01:30PM
Of Vienna Guys Leftist "Bizarro" World of Oz, may well use that date but the United States of America uses Dec 15 1791 when the constitution was amended with the 10 ten amendments the 2nd being the right to keep and bear arms
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Not Nikita...
()
Date: November 20, 2018 01:48PM
Red Herring Leftists At Work Wrote:
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> Khrushchev "We will bury You " No one ever
> thought that statement was from within our own
> country until today
Yeah, we didn’t see the Putin-Trump alliance coming.
Investigate Ivanka!!!
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> Khrushchev "We will bury You " No one ever
> thought that statement was from within our own
> country until today
Yeah, we didn’t see the Putin-Trump alliance coming.
Investigate Ivanka!!!
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Hmmm...
()
Date: November 20, 2018 01:53PM
The Law of The Land Wrote:
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> Of Vienna Guys Leftist "Bizarro" World of Oz, may
> well use that date but the United States of
> America uses Dec 15 1791 when the constitution was
> amended with the 10 ten amendments the 2nd being
> the right to keep and bear arms
How do you account for George Washington’s victory in the election of 1788, you sorry-ass dolt?
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> Of Vienna Guys Leftist "Bizarro" World of Oz, may
> well use that date but the United States of
> America uses Dec 15 1791 when the constitution was
> amended with the 10 ten amendments the 2nd being
> the right to keep and bear arms
How do you account for George Washington’s victory in the election of 1788, you sorry-ass dolt?
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
FIXER OF |T FOR YOU
()
Date: November 20, 2018 10:11PM
Hmmm... Wrote:
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> You anti-2A clowns weaken your argument every time you
> post.
FIFY
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> You anti-2A clowns weaken your argument every time you
> post.
FIFY
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Guns increase risk
()
Date: November 21, 2018 10:30AM
FIXER OF |T FOR YOU Wrote:
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> FIFY
FIFY = ASSHOLE. Biggest dumbshit ASSHOLE in five counties. At least.
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> FIFY
FIFY = ASSHOLE. Biggest dumbshit ASSHOLE in five counties. At least.
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
FIXER OF |T FOR YOU
()
Date: November 21, 2018 10:56AM
Guns increase risk Wrote:
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> FIXER OF |T FOR YOU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FIFY
>
> FIFY = ASSHOLE. Biggest dumbshit ASSHOLE in five
> counties. At least.
Howzitfeel to have the "biggest dumbshit ASSHOLE in 5 counties" living in your head RENT FREE, there, Bozo?
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> FIXER OF |T FOR YOU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FIFY
>
> FIFY = ASSHOLE. Biggest dumbshit ASSHOLE in five
> counties. At least.
Howzitfeel to have the "biggest dumbshit ASSHOLE in 5 counties" living in your head RENT FREE, there, Bozo?
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Gun Control Work!
Posted by:
Yeah yeah yeah
()
Date: November 21, 2018 12:17PM
Guns increase risk Wrote:
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> FIXER OF |T FOR YOU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FIFY
>
> FIFY = ASSHOLE. Biggest dumbshit ASSHOLE in five
> counties. At least.
-------------------------------------------------------
> FIXER OF |T FOR YOU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FIFY
>
> FIFY = ASSHOLE. Biggest dumbshit ASSHOLE in five
> counties. At least.