If he is innocent, its gonna blow away in a year or so.
Noone is gonna fucking care about this story in a month.

From Facebook:

"okay. hes mi gym teacher. stephanie is lying. hes great. he would never do anything like that..... i miss him alott and keep him in my prayerss. that little girll is lyinggg....... join this if you agree with me."


Let see how soon the media will spill the full name of that kid...

mr. lanigan was my pe teacher in 7th grade. In 1997 he worked at stone middle school. He is an extremely inappropriate teacher. He is a fun loving teacher but he makes sexual comments to all of the girls in his classes. For example on my birthday he told me that if its my birthday i should take a lap around the gym in by birthday suit. He made several comments towards me and my friends and one day he grabbed my shoulder in an attempt to get me to stay close to him. I was able to remove myself from the situation without any harm, I told my mom and my counselor in school. Mr. Lanigan was removed from stone middle school and apparently placed at center ridge. He definitely engages in verbal sexual harassment and has had complaints. I doubt I am the only one that has complained. I was 13 when this happened so I'm not at all surprised and completely believe that this young girl is telling the truth. His record is not publicized at this time so everyone does not know the number of complaints filed against him. I wish this teacher had been removed from the system years ago so no one else would have gone through this.

stone97 Wrote:
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> mr. lanigan was my pe teacher in 7th grade. In
> 1997 he worked at stone middle school. He is an
> extremely inappropriate teacher. He is a fun
> loving teacher but he makes sexual comments to all
> of the girls in his classes. For example on my
> birthday he told me that if its my birthday i
> should take a lap around the gym in by birthday
> suit. He made several comments towards me and my
> friends and one day he grabbed my shoulder in an
> attempt to get me to stay close to him. I was able
> to remove myself from the situation without any
> harm, I told my mom and my counselor in school.
> Mr. Lanigan was removed from stone middle school
> and apparently placed at center ridge. He
> definitely engages in verbal sexual harassment and
> has had complaints. I doubt I am the only one that
> has complained. I was 13 when this happened so I'm
> not at all surprised and completely believe that
> this young girl is telling the truth. His record
> is not publicized at this time so everyone does
> not know the number of complaints filed against
> him. I wish this teacher had been removed from the
> system years ago so no one else would have gone
> through this.

Again, if you think he is guilty and have information go to the police.Do not post it here and expect to get sympathy or a fair hearing.

Gilbert Arenas was just joking around too.

I have read over all these posts and feel the need to say what I know. My children all attend Centre Ridge and had the privlege of having Sean Lanigan as their teacher. We also know the accuser and have known her for the last seven years. I don't believe a thing that she is saying. I do believe the person that stated she is looking for attention hit the nail on the head. A week before these allegations took place she stated to several children on the bus that she "hated" Mr.Lanigan. It was never relayed to me why but I can assume it has to do with the fact she was a patrol and Mr.Lanigan was the teacher in charge of all patrols and she recently had several complaints issued against her (she called many children faggots,fat and a little girl with glasses a nerd, which may be typical 6th grade banter,but unacceptable when you have been chosen to have a job where you are placed in a position of authority). Fast forward to the day the letter was sent home to all parents concerning the incident, a child opened the letter on the bus and the accuser stated the letter was about her, she was then asked to autograph a couple of the letters. I am so thankful that my son came to me and told me all this and was mature enough to recognize that he should tell an authority figure. I hope and pray that with all of the kids coming forward we will see the truth.My thoughts and prayers are with The Lanigans.

If you really believe the teacher is innocent then I hope you are also contacting the police with what you know... as with everything else it is an anonymous post and could have been made by anyone and not necessarily true, but if you are telling the truth you should at least email the cops with contact info. If the allegations are shown to be false it is possible the police charged the wrong person.

my information is already with the fairfax county school system as a registered complaint against Mr. Lanigan. it was the reason he was transferred out of stone middle school. the reason i posted this information on fairfax underground is not for sympathy, its just so people know that you can not have any idea what type of sexuality a person has just because they are a 'good guy' Of course he is good to you he's not thinking anything perverse about you. Almost everyone keeps their sexual tendencies private or share with a very small group. I was in his class i know how fun he can be, all of the kids liked his class its one of the reasons why so many girls did NOT complain. who knows maybe he didnt do anything this time, but he does have this tendency...regardless he should not be flirting with 12 year old girls. weather the girls is a brat or a little angel doesnt matter, he is inappropriate and should be at least removed from teaching or working with children. I personally think he should go to jail but i'm not a judge or jury and we'll see how his trial goes. I think the support he's getting is ridiculous no one can know what is going on in his brain.

stone97 Wrote:
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> my information is already with the fairfax county
> school system as a registered complaint against
> Mr. Lanigan. it was the reason he was transferred
> out of stone middle school. the reason i posted
> this information on fairfax underground is not for
> sympathy, its just so people know that you can not
> have any idea what type of sexuality a person has
> just because they are a 'good guy' Of course he is
> good to you he's not thinking anything perverse
> about you. Almost everyone keeps their sexual
> tendencies private or share with a very small
> group. I was in his class i know how fun he can
> be, all of the kids liked his class its one of the
> reasons why so many girls did NOT complain. who
> knows maybe he didnt do anything this time, but he
> does have this tendency...regardless he should not
> be flirting with 12 year old girls. weather the
> girls is a brat or a little angel doesnt matter,
> he is inappropriate and should be at least removed
> from teaching or working with children. I
> personally think he should go to jail but i'm not
> a judge or jury and we'll see how his trial goes.
> I think the support he's getting is ridiculous no
> one can know what is going on in his brain.

If you got solid facts, contact cops with it.

Dont waste your time on this forum.

You would think they would have credible evidence before charging someone and ruining their life - but looked what happened to that bozo school vice prinicpal in Loudon who allowed a "child porn" sexting message to be sent to his own cell phone so he could save it for future/further "evidence". Dumb on his part, but the Loudon County prosecutor, supposedly spurred on by a zealous parent, went after him. Even though he beat the charge, he was financially ruined until Loudon agreed to pick up his attorney's bill (6 figures as I recall)

So, yes spurious charges COULD happen. I think this forum has established FCPD is not to be trusted nor taken at their word.

But a flip side, when I was 11 or 12 something similar happened to me and I never told anyone but my same-age cousin - until right now anyway. So, nothing ever came of it. So, I understand the kid a bit too, expecially if its a well liked teacher.

I still think FCPD should not release information this publicly until it has gone to trial. But, they are probably trolling for other instances to back up this case.

If FCPD wanted me to come down to the station for a chat, I would call an attorney first - no matter what was going on.

I have always felt it was awful when a person who was accused of a crime had their picture and details published, and so agree with the folks here who state they dislike this practice.

It is interesting though how many people are touting his innocence and complaining about the publishing of his photo, when many people on this forum (not saying they are the same people) love posting photos and stats of other people accused of crimes and stating they "must be guilty" (and interesting that in those cases the accused are often latino or black, wonder why the difference).

Teachers are often easy targets which is concerning, but just as concerning is the fact that kids are easy targets as well.

He may have been completely appropriate with many students and many classes, and totally inappropriate with others. If he is a pedophile, then he knows whom to target (and hey, how easy is it to target a vulnerable and possibly disliked girl according to some of the posts...then people will easily blame the victim and/or accuse her of lying).


One post alleges that he was moved from one middle school to another because of similar allegations...reminds me of priests who also, assumingly, were well loved by those who weren't molested.

Folks who are pedophiles don't make it obvious, or they would be caught much sooner than they typically are.

If he is innocent, then I am hopeful the truth comes out quickly and his name is cleared.

If he is guilty, then I am hopeful the truth comes out quickly and the little girl's (and other possible victims)name is cleared.

It's funny, actually it's not, but I remember almost this same occurance when I was growing up with the "patrols" and the "gym teacher" in charge of them. They surely can be little fuckin' evil bitches I tell you.

Since last week, PE pals had ended! Both Mr. Sanders and Mr. Lanigan nicknames most of the students including me. Now I only have one PE teacher who still nicknames me the same name. The victim used to be in Tuesday PE pals but that is as far as I will go. But, Mr. Brooks is nice too as a temporary replacement. Before that, he was the school's temporary assistant principal. I wish he still was.

One time at soccer camp, Mr, Lanigan went out to his car for about 20 minutes. When he came back he was staggering and smelled of elderberry. He then dribble a soccer ball on the tip of his weiner while reciting the lord's prayer. Needless to say we went undefeated that season.

i support SL Wrote:
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> sean lanigan has been a good friend of me and my
> family for years. he has coached me and my brother
> in soccer for years and i am in complete support
> of him i do not believe at all that he did this.
> that little girl is a liar

I went to centre ridge elmentary school last year and i am now a seventh grader.
That group of kids is called P.E pals which is just for 6th graders and I was involved in that group.
He is a very good teacher and i do recall seeing him pick kids up but as a joke not to rape them as he is accused of doing!!! Police make mistakes and people should not believe everything they say. I mean They accused my mother of Prostitution and took her to jail for a month!!!! SO WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE COPS NOW?!!!??!!??

...if she was in jail for a month then there is a pretty good chance that she was sucking cock for your lunch money.

youdoont needtoknow smith Wrote:
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> i support SL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > sean lanigan has been a good friend of me and
> my
> > family for years. he has coached me and my
> brother
> > in soccer for years and i am in complete
> support
> > of him i do not believe at all that he did
> this.
> > that little girl is a liar
>
> I went to centre ridge elmentary school last year
> and i am now a seventh grader.
> That group of kids is called P.E pals which is
> just for 6th graders and I was involved in that
> group.
> He is a very good teacher and i do recall seeing
> him pick kids up but as a joke not to rape them as
> he is accused of doing!!! Police make mistakes and
> people should not believe everything they say. I
> mean They accused my mother of Prostitution and
> took her to jail for a month!!!! SO WHY SHOULD I
> BELIEVE COPS NOW?!!!??!!??


Who said anything about rape?

Sad thing is in two years you will be in high school LOL

It's worth repeating that anyone with real information should contact the police and/or Lanigan's attorneys rather than posting it on a shithole internet forum like this.

Well no need for all the compliments, but yes good suggestion!

I am a male teacher in the Fairfax County Public School system, and a married father of two. I also coach multiple sports both at the club and high school levels. A few years ago, I had some girls in one of my classes who insisted on dressing in the skimpiest skirts available with thongs underneath while simultaneously wearing tiny tops. Although the adolescent boys in my room were quite impressed, I was quite annoyed and, on several occasions, I asked them or had a female staffer ask them to leave my room until they could dress more appropriately. These girls were also terrible students, which created perfect conditions for what was about to happen.
After school one day, our school and safety specialist came down to my room and told me one of the principals needed to talk to me. Thinking nothing of it, I walked to the front of the school and into his office, where a police officer, our school "SRO", waited with him. I asked what was up, and the principal said, "There's no easy way to say this..." and proceeded to tell me that several girls had made allegations that I had done inappropriate things with them. The principal, who was not the head guy but an assistant, seemed quite embarrassed and the SRO refused to even question me. However, I went nuts- I vehemently denied the accusations and demanded to know who had brought them against me- the principal said he was very sorry, but he couldn't tell me. It didn't really matter, I knew damned well who was behind it, but I left that day and figured that I was in the clear- nobody could possibly take the word of a few lousy students who came to school dressed like streetwalkers over that of a respected teacher with years of experience and a plethora of accolades. I didn't realize how wrong I was, but I soon found out.
The next week, I was teaching my class as usual when a different assistant principal showed up at my door, He told me that I had to come with him, and I needed to take anything that I would be taking home later with me. I was astonished! I was being treated as though I were one of the students, in front of my students, without ever even knowing WHO was accusing me, and having never been able to defend the allegations formally. That didn't matter- when I reached the office, a Fairfax COunty Public Schools investigator was there. He told me what had been said about me , and he asked for my side. I told him I had nothing to say, he could talk to my lawyer (looking back, I think if I HAD tried to make a statement, they would have tried to put me on unpaid leave- defending yourself sometimes has the odd effect of making you look guilty). He handed me a piece of paper to sign confirming that I was being put on paid leave pending the outcome of a full investigation. I lost it- I said that if a breath of this reached the media I would sue everyone involved, leave their children out to starve on the street, and live fat and happy off of the money I would be awarded from the county.
In a way, I felt bad for the two assistant principals that had to hear my tirade- they were good men- honorable guys who were secretly on my side and saw the horrific injustice in the situation. However, god guys or not, I would have done exactly what I said I was going to do had the news gotten out. My head principal however, was a spineless jellyfish coward nursing a well -deserved inferiority comples whose genesis was his utter lack of social prowess during adolescence and adutlhood. He was a doughy , bespectacled , soft-willed pussy who saw the chance to make himself look heroic at my expense. He played the suffering principal, doing what he had to do to protect the children and protect a teacher while secretly, as I learned directly from the school resource officer later, he was trying to do anything he could to get me in legal hot water.
I was tossed out of the school, my name was dragged through the mud by some in the building while the vast majority supported me, and I remained unable to return to my job for about six weeks, at the conclusion of which I was told I could return. I was , but not before the principal was on his way to another school, the girls who spearheaded the effort to crucify me were removed from the school, and I was given my choice of classes. Just the same, I nearly held out to sue someone anyway but my lawyer talked me out of it:I hadn't suffered financial loss and I was given my pound of flesh.
My point in all of this is this- while there are certainly many evil teachers who DO molest children, there are also spiteful children out to ruin teachers. The fervor created by teacher scandals has certainly resulted in witch hunt,as was the case with me, and I firmly believe that it is the same way with Sean Lanigan, a man I have known for thirty years and who has been repeatedly and consistently recognized as the pillar of the community, and the epitome of what a good educator, teacher, and man should be. While Irecognize thatthere is the CHANCE that he did it, there is also a CHANCE that the poles will reverse, I will discover the lost city of Atlantis at my community pool, and the Catholic Church will come out tomorrow and say "WHAT THE HELL, LET'S MARRY SOME GAYS".
Being a teacher comes with little reward: the money sucks, we have to endure scurrilous attacks by assholes who insist that public education is the root of all evil, and we are underappreciated for the most part. Those of us who are in it and do our best for our students do it for the love of working with young kid and the sense of satisfaction attained by forming lasting relationships with the community based on mutual respect. If good men continue to be persecuted for things they didn't do while trying to do their best in a profession with limited financial reward, you will soon see those same good men saying, "What the hell do I need this for"? The loss in such a situation would be great for all those who would then never get a teacher like Sean,

You got that right.

Anytime a kid makes an accusation against an adult, the kid is automatically believed.

If the kid is special ed, FCPS does everything possible to avoid a lawsuit.

On occasion, adults do bad things to children.

Children do the same to adults when they LIE.

You are right about getting an attorney before speaking to the cops.

Detective Wayne Promisel (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=&as_epq=wayne+promisel&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images)was notorious about getting an accused to incriminate himself even if nothing had taken place.

To those who automatically think that all acccused are guilty"

Just ask the custodian at Oakton Elementary http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/articleprint.asp?article=235404&paper=62&cat=104.

Ditto for the special ed bus driver in the lower end of the county.

Ditto for the music teacher at Annandale High( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/19/AR2006101901655.html ).

They were all accused on specious grounds.

Where did the charges go?

You could look it up.






Re: Centre Ridge PE teacher sexually assaults 12 year old girl new
Posted by: Duchess ()
Date: February 03, 2010 11:26AM


You would think they would have credible evidence before charging someone and ruining their life - but looked what happened to that bozo school vice prinicpal in Loudon who allowed a "child porn" sexting message to be sent to his own cell phone so he could save it for future/further "evidence". Dumb on his part, but the Loudon County prosecutor, supposedly spurred on by a zealous parent, went after him. Even though he beat the charge, he was financially ruined until Loudon agreed to pick up his attorney's bill (6 figures as I recall)

So, yes spurious charges COULD happen. I think this forum has established FCPD is not to be trusted nor taken at their word.

But a flip side, when I was 11 or 12 something similar happened to me and I never told anyone but my same-age cousin - until right now anyway. So, nothing ever came of it. So, I understand the kid a bit too, expecially if its a well liked teacher.

I still think FCPD should not release information this publicly until it has gone to trial. But, they are probably trolling for other instances to back up this case.

If FCPD wanted me to come down to the station for a chat, I would call an attorney first - no matter what was going on.

They solicit the guy, they mislead him, he knows she is too young, but still they lead him on and then they charge him.

Not law enforcement's finest hour.


http://loudountimes.com/news/2010/jan/14/Callejas/

Sean Lanigan was my soccer coach for atleast 6 seasons. I am a girl. He never touched any of us inappropriatly or even at all. I am furious with this little girl & I would like to know her name. I have known this man for 7 years & he lives right around the corner from me. Im friends with his daughter & he would NEVER do this.

GMU Hokie Wrote:
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> They solicit the guy, they mislead him, he knows
> she is too young, but still they lead him on and
> then they charge him.
>
> Not law enforcement's finest hour.
>
>
> http://loudountimes.com/news/2010/jan/14/Callejas/


A lemonande and cookie stand? Lock him up forever. Now if it had been a 13 year old mamacita that had a kid or two already that would be different. But I see an innocent being assaluted here, not cool.

Who was the FCPD detective?

Go ahead, name him or her because the truth will set you free.

Who was the FCPS investigator?

The retired former Deputy Police Chief, perhaps?

As I have said on many occasions, FCPS doesn't need proof when an accusation will suffice.

Sorry to hear what happened to you. A similar thing happened to me.




omeknow Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am a male teacher in the Fairfax County Public
> School system, and a married father of two. I also
> coach multiple sports both at the club and high
> school levels. A few years ago, I had some girls
> in one of my classes who insisted on dressing in
> the skimpiest skirts available with thongs
> underneath while simultaneously wearing tiny tops.
> Although the adolescent boys in my room were quite
> impressed, I was quite annoyed and, on several
> occasions, I asked them or had a female staffer
> ask them to leave my room until they could dress
> more appropriately. These girls were also terrible
> students, which created perfect conditions for
> what was about to happen.
> After school one day, our school and safety
> specialist came down to my room and told me one of
> the principals needed to talk to me. Thinking
> nothing of it, I walked to the front of the school
> and into his office, where a police officer, our
> school "SRO", waited with him. I asked what was
> up, and the principal said, "There's no easy way
> to say this..." and proceeded to tell me that
> several girls had made allegations that I had done
> inappropriate things with them. The principal, who
> was not the head guy but an assistant, seemed
> quite embarrassed and the SRO refused to even
> question me. However, I went nuts- I vehemently
> denied the accusations and demanded to know who
> had brought them against me- the principal said he
> was very sorry, but he couldn't tell me. It didn't
> really matter, I knew damned well who was behind
> it, but I left that day and figured that I was in
> the clear- nobody could possibly take the word of
> a few lousy students who came to school dressed
> like streetwalkers over that of a respected
> teacher with years of experience and a plethora of
> accolades. I didn't realize how wrong I was, but I
> soon found out.
> The next week, I was teaching my class as usual
> when a different assistant principal showed up at
> my door, He told me that I had to come with him,
> and I needed to take anything that I would be
> taking home later with me. I was astonished! I was
> being treated as though I were one of the
> students, in front of my students, without ever
> even knowing WHO was accusing me, and having never
> been able to defend the allegations formally. That
> didn't matter- when I reached the office, a
> Fairfax COunty Public Schools investigator was
> there. He told me what had been said about me ,
> and he asked for my side. I told him I had nothing
> to say, he could talk to my lawyer (looking back,
> I think if I HAD tried to make a statement, they
> would have tried to put me on unpaid leave-
> defending yourself sometimes has the odd effect of
> making you look guilty). He handed me a piece of
> paper to sign confirming that I was being put on
> paid leave pending the outcome of a full
> investigation. I lost it- I said that if a breath
> of this reached the media I would sue everyone
> involved, leave their children out to starve on
> the street, and live fat and happy off of the
> money I would be awarded from the county.
> In a way, I felt bad for the two assistant
> principals that had to hear my tirade- they were
> good men- honorable guys who were secretly on my
> side and saw the horrific injustice in the
> situation. However, god guys or not, I would have
> done exactly what I said I was going to do had the
> news gotten out. My head principal however, was a
> spineless jellyfish coward nursing a well
> -deserved inferiority comples whose genesis was
> his utter lack of social prowess during
> adolescence and adutlhood. He was a doughy ,
> bespectacled , soft-willed pussy who saw the
> chance to make himself look heroic at my expense.
> He played the suffering principal, doing what he
> had to do to protect the children and protect a
> teacher while secretly, as I learned directly from
> the school resource officer later, he was trying
> to do anything he could to get me in legal hot
> water.
> I was tossed out of the school, my name was
> dragged through the mud by some in the building
> while the vast majority supported me, and I
> remained unable to return to my job for about six
> weeks, at the conclusion of which I was told I
> could return. I was , but not before the principal
> was on his way to another school, the girls who
> spearheaded the effort to crucify me were removed
> from the school, and I was given my choice of
> classes. Just the same, I nearly held out to sue
> someone anyway but my lawyer talked me out of it:I
> hadn't suffered financial loss and I was given my
> pound of flesh.
> My point in all of this is this- while there are
> certainly many evil teachers who DO molest
> children, there are also spiteful children out to
> ruin teachers. The fervor created by teacher
> scandals has certainly resulted in witch hunt,as
> was the case with me, and I firmly believe that it
> is the same way with Sean Lanigan, a man I have
> known for thirty years and who has been repeatedly
> and consistently recognized as the pillar of the
> community, and the epitome of what a good
> educator, teacher, and man should be. While
> Irecognize thatthere is the CHANCE that he did it,
> there is also a CHANCE that the poles will
> reverse, I will discover the lost city of Atlantis
> at my community pool, and the Catholic Church will
> come out tomorrow and say "WHAT THE HELL, LET'S
> MARRY SOME GAYS".
> Being a teacher comes with little reward: the
> money sucks, we have to endure scurrilous attacks
> by assholes who insist that public education is
> the root of all evil, and we are underappreciated
> for the most part. Those of us who are in it and
> do our best for our students do it for the love of
> working with young kid and the sense of
> satisfaction attained by forming lasting
> relationships with the community based on mutual
> respect. If good men continue to be persecuted
> for things they didn't do while trying to do their
> best in a profession with limited financial
> reward, you will soon see those same good men
> saying, "What the hell do I need this for"? The
> loss in such a situation would be great for all
> those who would then never get a teacher like
> Sean,

Someknow Wrote:
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> I am a male teacher in the Fairfax County Public
> School system, and a married father of two. I also
> coach multiple sports both at the club and high
> school levels.

Thanks for sharing your story... my guess is the Centre Ridge guy probably went through the same thing except got charges and a press release instead of a green light to go back.

I'm not sure how those who believe the identity of accused should not be released until a conviction is reached could lobby for such a law. The politics of it are horrendous... those opposed would claim anyone supporting such a rule is trying to protect child molesters and preventing other victims from coming forward as soon as they could otherwise. I guess we'd need testimony from guys like you, sorry you went through that and that teachers are often society's unsung heroes. I know of a couple of divorced dads who had to go through the same shit because their ex-wives wanted to bury them, and false accusations sexual abuse of children is a great way to make that happen quickly... it is a terrible weapon.

Convicted molesters should get the harshest penalties possible, as should any false accusers. With a better system I think we'd have fewer molesters and fewer false accusations because the penalties for both would be overwhelming.



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when is his trial going to be??? or how will we know what happens?!

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seanlaniganisinnocent Wrote:
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> when is his trial going to be??? or how will we
> know what happens?!

I cannot even believe you could write something like this. You must be one sick individual. This could one day be a daughter of yours, and you would be beside yourself if someone made a comment about your own.

Well, that settles it. The girl is clearly lying.

Truckin':
I had to laugh at your deadpan sense of humor, and I agree that in some regard it is on the money. The specifics of MY case cannot be applied to a different case logically. My point was that too often the knee jerk reaction is "this guy victimized a little girl" especially when his picture is all ove the news. You yourself portray this bias when, in your opening to this thread, you reported the story but felt compelled to include " a sketchy looking guy indeed". I know the man, I have been in his shoes, and based on that I am biased the OTHER way.
By the way, Truckin, people tend NOT to look their best in police mugshots, they usually have some things on their mind, and the photographer isn't overly concerned with the beauty of his subject.

old student Wrote:
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> all of this is WHACK...i hav been wit mr lanigan
> for 7 years..he waz my P.E teacher..and he has
> never done anything like this....i also did this
> pen pal thing where u stay after school to help
> clean and he was always on the computer or on his
> phone
>
> mr lanigan is NOT GUILTY..
> all of this lie is just going to mess up his
> life...


He might not be guilty,but your English teachers should be locked up.

I think what everyone needs to understand that Sean Lanigan has been accused of abuduction and aggravated sexual battery. That does not mean he is guilty. Its a shame that everyone is jumping to conclusions. The man has coached many kids in many different leagues and has been a teacher for over 10 years. In my coaching days, many parents drop their kids off for practices and leave until the practice is over. This man put a lot of his time in making kids better atheletes and preparing them for the future. I have to admit, something does not sound right in this case, but the man has not been convicted of anything yet. Either way, his name has been tarnished for ever. I hate to say it. I also know if something did happen, then Sean Lanigan deserves any punishment that he would be given.

I heard of a case where a poor performing teaching was accused by a similar group of middle school aged girl students of using a racial epithet in reference to one them. Lousy teacher, poor SOL performer, but still not they type to use racial words around kids. Since the principal wanted him out of there anyway the path was cleared, he was basically forced to resign. Beware of snotty girls is all I can say.

wow..thanks for sharin eric person...that has nuthin to do wit this

ima not even joking...who was the "little" girl.....i noe mr lanigan wuld never du anything lyk that.....mr lanigan is a GOOD TEACHER..and imagine how this is going to ruin his life.......

Doo Dah Wrote:
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> old student Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > all of this is WHACK...i hav been wit mr
> lanigan
> > for 7 years..he waz my P.E teacher..and he has
> > never done anything like this....i also did
> this
> > pen pal thing where u stay after school to help
> > clean and he was always on the computer or on
> his
> > phone
> >
> > mr lanigan is NOT GUILTY..
> > all of this lie is just going to mess up his
> > life...
>
>
> He might not be guilty,but your English teachers
> should be locked up.

watevA..i can tlk how i wanna talk...and now i noe y ima not in honors english

then read this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/pmextra/mar00/14/A3141-2000Mar13.html


Sixth-Graders Who Accused Teacher of Fondling Charged in Hoax



By Brigid Schulte and Michael E. Ruane
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, March 14, 2000; Page A01



The sixth-grade girls were angry at their gym teacher. He'd yelled at them for bad sportsmanship in front of the whole class. They wanted to get even. So they said he'd stared at their breasts and fondled them in the locker room.


Within hours, the Montgomery County teacher, Ronald Heller, was suspended with pay and ordered to leave the school.


But the charges weren't true.


Yesterday, nearly a month after making up the story--then later recanting in tears--six girls and a boy were arrested and charged as juveniles with making false statements to police. For an adult, the penalty for such a crime is a $500 fine or six months in jail; for a juvenile, there's more discretion.


Their parents brought the students, described by police as honor students and "good kids" at Roberto Clemente Middle School in Germantown, to the police department's family services division in Wheaton. Police fingerprinted, photographed, booked, then released them to their parents.


The students, whose names were not released because they are juveniles, have been suspended from school for 10 days, and further punishment is being discussed, school officials said.


Heller, a stocky man in his fifties who has coached several sports teams in his 32-year career, has been reinstated and was expected to return to teaching today. "I don't want to talk about it," he said, standing outside his Gaithersburg home. "I knew I was right all along."


In a letter sent home with students yesterday, Principal Rosalva Rosas said Heller has been "fully exonerated" and would be "welcomed as a friend and colleague."


"I want to emphasize how terrible the consequences have been because of the lies and the subsequent rumors," the principal wrote in the letter. "The teacher suffered the personal and professional effects of false allegations."


Students make up stories all the time, educators say, for lots of reasons. Phony 911 calls. Prank bomb threats. And while fibs generally haven't led to arrests, some courts are becoming more inclined to punish children for making up stories.


In Anne Arundel County, several children as young as 8 were arrested for sending notes and warning of nonexistent bombs. One 13-year-old boy was sentenced to two weeks of house arrest and 40 hours of community service for making a bomb threat.


Prosecutors worry that these arrests might make children who are victims of sexual abuse afraid to report it.


"But this was a rare case. These kids maliciously conspired, police believed and acted upon it, and someone's reputation was tarnished," said Montgomery State's Attorney Douglas F. Gansler, who decided to bring charges. "The question is, do you put 11- and 12-year-olds in jail for this? Probably not.


"But you certainly want to hold them accountable and understand what they did was wrong," he said. "They owe something to the teacher."


What they owe him is his reputation, said Heller's attorney, Paul F. Kemp. Yet, because of the nature of sexual-misconduct charges, they can't ever fully restore that.


"When they made the charge, that's about 80 percent of the damage to your reputation right there," Kemp said. "Because even if you're found innocent, people will assume you got off on a technicality. Or that there's something there when there's not."


Heller has spent every day since Feb. 16, when he was suspended, "sitting at home, staring at the walls and wondering how he got in the middle of this maelstrom," Kemp said.


Kemp said it started in early February. Heller, known to students as a strict disciplinarian, yelled at several for mouthing off during an intramural game. Feeling humiliated, they wanted revenge.


So six girls and a boy concocted the story that Heller had followed the girls into the locker room, hugged them, touched them and grabbed at least one girl's buttock.


They went to the school counselor with the story. School officials ordered Heller off school property and told him not to return until police investigated the charges.


While the details were vague, the students' stories seemed airtight at first, police said.


"These were all honor roll students, very involved in the school. We had no reason to doubt them," said Sgt. Richard Cage, investigative supervisor with the family services division. "The whole thing seems so bizarre."


But slowly, under questioning, their story began to fall apart. The boy broke first, admitting they had made the whole thing up.


"We let them know that these are serious accusations, could cost a person their position and could lead to criminal charges," said Stan Schaub, head of human resources for the school system. "I just don't think he wanted that on his head."


One by one, the students recanted the story. Last week, when Heller offered to take a lie detector test to prove his innocence, police told him the investigation was over. The students lied.


"The question is, what motivated them to do this, and do they understand the ramifications of it, because you're dealing with a real person's life," Gansler said. "The irony is, here children are attempting to ruin his reputation for no reason, for nothing. And they almost got away with it."


Such accusations are a teacher's nightmare and are all too frequent, teachers union officials say.


"It's a regular occurrence that students are charging teachers with some form of abuse, whether it be physical or sexual," Susan Russell, the chief lawyer for the Maryland State Teachers Association, which represents 53,000 teachers statewide, said yesterday.


"Literally, we get a phone call every day, sometimes three or four," from teachers reporting accusations, she said. Most often, she said, the accusations are not true.


She said students often don't realize the gravity of what they're doing. "Kids haven't developed their full ethical code," she said. And "times have changed. There's less respect for elders in general, parents, teachers."


In one of the worst such cases in recent years, a Chicago elementary school student in 1994 paid $1 bribes to fellow students to accuse a substitute teacher of abuse. The teacher was later cleared.


But the damage often lingers.


"What shouldn't be minimized is that a teacher's reputation is everything," said Mark Simon, president of the Montgomery County Education Association, which represents 9,500 county teachers. "Typically what happens is a teacher is immediately put on leave. So there's an atmosphere . . . that this teacher must have done something."


Across the country, teachers are taking precautions to avoid abuse charges. In some places, teachers now hesitate to hug students.


"You hear teachers saying they don't touch kids anymore, they don't hug kids, they don't stay in a closed room by themselves with a student. It's something they keep in the back of their minds," said Julie Underwood, general counsel of the National School Boards Association.


"Even if it were to happen very infrequently, teachers are still going to be worried about it because it's such a horrific thing to happen in your career."




Staff writer Amy Argetsinger and researcher Bobbye Pratt contributed to this report.


© 2000 The Washington Post Company


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Someknow Wrote:
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> Truckin':
> By the way, Truckin, people tend NOT to look their
> best in police mugshots, they usually have some
> things on their mind, and the photographer isn't
> overly concerned with the beauty of his subject.


Of course they don't look their best in mugshots. That's why it's funny. I'm glad you at least see my humor. And after all the outpouring of support for this guy, I'm starting to think that the girl is probably lying. I realize that occasionaly, people can change for the worse but 12 year old girls make up stories much more frequently.

owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the girl is a bitch, mr. Lanigan is innocent FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKfuck the girl.

....So maybe you guys haven't thought about the possibility of witnesses...if you read the story, it says she was picked up while she was in a group of students and taken away....I'm confident there was someone who must have witnessed what happened.

The public has a right to know, whether he is convicted or not. For all those who want to be mad at the police or media, you would be LIVID if you knew there was a teacher that was arrested for touching kids teaching at your school because he wasn't convicted and you weren't informed. Police usually need enough evidence to obtain a warrant.

On the other hand, I hope this isn't true because its sad to see this in the schools.

No one has to go any farther than the title of this blog, "Centre Ridge PE teacher sexually assaults 12-year-old girl", to see how society reflexively treats adults who only have been accused of something by a child. There's nothing in this blog title to suggest that this is only an allegation. Because there are bad people out there, and Sean Lanigan definitely is NOT one of those, our society is extremely protective of our young children (and rightfully so). However, Sean was having a normal day when he was called about the supposed event and asked to talk with the authorities about it. He did so and was put in Fairfax County Jail for five days until bond could be posted and has been suspended from all school and soccer coaching employment. He's had to hire a lawyer to protect his good name and exceptional reputation (before this sad event). When all of the facts come out and he is exonerated, is he expected to just go on with his life as if nothing happened? And will the blogs then have a title of, "12 year old girl ruins the good name of an honorable man"? I doubt it.

rfj942e,

I DO NOT NEED THE MEDIA TO CHECK THE CRIMINAL PAST OF ANY TEACHERS IN MY CHILDRENS SCHOOLS. On the other hand, if an arrest notification is to be made public, the specifics should NOT be plasterd all over news papers and TV shows. Rather any concerned citizen can check public records to find out the specifics if interested. SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS SHIT.

The Media's current protocol is maliciously defamatory and some may argue sexist being that men are most commonly victimized in this fashion.

Also, you think just because there was an arrest, or a warrant served means "enough evidence". Hell no, thats what the Nolle pros. shit is forbwhen a prosecutor realises a case doesn't hold water because it doesnt have enough evidence. Besides thats what jurys do. They are te ones who decide guilt and if enough evidence was presented to convict. NOT THE ARRESTING OFFICERS OR A JUDGE THAT GRANTS A WARRANT!

Oopsie Daisy,
Learn to fucking spell. Please tell me what forbwhen, te and realises mean. Clearly, you should not comment on anything in the schools because you spell like a 5 year old and probably didn't make it past third grade. You have poor grammar. I pray to God you do not actually have children because you clearly have no regard for their safety and cannot even spell. Learn about the legal system and government before even trying say anything. I am sure you are simply embarrassed because you have been arrested and its been made public. Maybe you should stop drinking.

I do not want this accusation to be true. It would be very tragic.

I had a colleague once who wore boxers under his gym shorts that had hearts all over it and said, "I love every girl I see". Should I be concerned..

True Story but it was a gym teacher and nobody did shit about it when I told them when he grabbed. FCPS elementary gym teachers are all pedi's.

DOES ANYONE NOE WHO DA GURL IZ.......THIZ IZ DRIVIN ME CRAZY...WHO IZ DA GIRL...and mr lanigan ISNT guilty..!

UGHH Wrote:
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> DOES ANYONE NOE WHO DA GURL IZ.......THIZ IZ
> DRIVIN ME CRAZY...WHO IZ DA GIRL...and mr lanigan
> ISNT guilty..!


and people i do know how to spell...im just mad right now so nobody comment on my spelling

You don't know what happened. To all you people who say he couldn't have because he's such a nice guy or whatever, many people found out to be murderers and other criminals have been "nice guys". You can never really know someone. And to the others who want to hang the man, it's true that many children lie. This wouldn't be the first time a person's life is ruined because a kid made up a story. Remember the story about the little girl who said she was touched by the neighbor and police determined it wasn't true? Well that didn't stop the father from stabbing the neighbor to death. Just admit you don't know and leave it at that.

Good point Hey People - I totally agree!

And its no ones business who the girl is UGHH. She is a juvenile and her identity will be private because right now, she is considered a victim. Even if you find out who she is, if you give her a hard time or harass her, you could be criminally charged.

HeyPeople Wrote:
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> You don't know what happened. To all you people
> who say he couldn't have because he's such a nice
> guy or whatever, many people found out to be
> murderers and other criminals have been "nice
> guys". You can never really know someone. And to
> the others who want to hang the man, it's true
> that many children lie. This wouldn't be the
> first time a person's life is ruined because a kid
> made up a story. Remember the story about the
> little girl who said she was touched by the
> neighbor and police determined it wasn't true?
> Well that didn't stop the father from stabbing the
> neighbor to death. Just admit you don't know and
> leave it at that.


I know what happened because I am a psychic. I looked into my crystal ball and saw this man rubbing HIS "bean bag" all over this girls chin. He said, "My lady do you have crumpets to go with this tea bag."

ttttttttttt Wrote:
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> Good point Hey People - I totally agree!
>
> And its no ones business who the girl is UGHH.
> She is a juvenile and her identity will be private
> because right now, she is considered a victim.
> Even if you find out who she is, if you give her a
> hard time or harass her, you could be criminally
> charged.


wow i was just curious and what would i do stalk her..SIKE....

8ball98,

thanks for making the point that I DON't CARE ABOUT GRAMMeR. especially if it bothers YOU. SO KEEP READING SUCKER.

Also you are one stupid fuck to take the time to point out my grammEr mistakes but not even begin to REBUTTAL ANYTHIG I HAD TO SAY!
Good job!

As far as your ASSumption goes, NO I HAVE NEVER BEEN A VICTIM OF THE MEDIA'S BULLSHIT, but I recogniSe a duck when I see one.

JUST LIKE I RECOGNIzED YOUR worthless waste if time post when I saw it up there^.

Now go suck a dick like your momma used to do for your lunch money.

? You are spelling grammar wrong (recognise? whats that...and you said your worthless - should be YOU'RE, and anything is spelled wrong too)...you cannot be taken seriously if you cannot spell. Hardly bothers me, just makes you look like a tool and a joke. I'm sure if the court saw this document, you would not be looking so hot...just incoherent...but then again, you are starting to sound like you are 15 years old...hmm....
Someone who is acting ridiculous in defending a cause is only hurting it. You are definitely hurting the cause because you obviously lost sight of what just happened. I agree with HeyPeople on this one.

And there was a rebuttal - its public information! Another rebuttal....witnesses...my final rebuttal - you may want to start looking at lawyers as well.

Grow up :)

HeyPeople Wrote:
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> To all you people
> who say he couldn't have because he's such a nice
> guy or whatever, many people found out to be
> murderers and other criminals have been "nice
> guys". You can never really know someone.

So how do we know YOU aren't a criminal, posting here to throw everyone off? Why don't you admit you don't know what really happened and stop telling people their opinions are wrong?

"8ball"

go smoke another 8 ball of crack cocaine you gimp.

You made NO REBUTTAL.

also once again just because apparently your too concerned with spelling and mKing that your point then reading, so here goes again.

Ha ha fooled ya, I wouldn't waste my time on a stoopid fucke like yourslef.

On that note, re-read what I wrote and see how fuckin' dumb you really are.

It's funny how you equate me to a "criminal" just because I believe we have a practice that is unjustifiable, unfair, sexist, and malicious.

Will Cary ban this "haha@aol.com" idiot already?

Why?

Because of all the great rebuttals you guys mKe?

Besides I'm the best thing to happen to this website since cut cheese!

"cut cheese" n. To relieve oneself with gaseous relief

Here's how I see it. No adult, especially one in a position of authority, has any business touching a child. The guy is a loudmouth but that doesn't make him guilty. But if he ever touched on of my kids, the police would be the least of his concerns.

Now we don't know his side but, if he did pick her up and/or hold her down, regardless of his intentions/perversions, etc. He is a fool. I have heard she is a troubled student. All the more reason to stay away from her.

Nothing good comes from lifting/touching a kid. An innocent swipe of the hand or an inadvertent touch of a private part spells trouble.

The only good outcome is that if she made up the story entirely.

He is either a damn fool or pedophile, or both.

Is he still in jail or did they bond this fine outstanding pervert?

HeyPeople Wrote:
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> You don't know what happened. To all you people
> who say he couldn't have because he's such a nice
> guy or whatever, many people found out to be
> murderers and other criminals have been "nice
> guys". You can never really know someone. And to
> the others who want to hang the man, it's true
> that many children lie. This wouldn't be the
> first time a person's life is ruined because a kid
> made up a story. Remember the story about the
> little girl who said she was touched by the
> neighbor and police determined it wasn't true?
> Well that didn't stop the father from stabbing the
> neighbor to death. Just admit you don't know and
> leave it at that.

Been there, said that.

Keep up, grams.

Some parents of kids he coaches are saying he didn't do it:
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/cms/story.php?id=1045

Jimbo Wrote:
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> Some parents of kids he coaches are saying he
> didn't do it:
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/cms/story.php?id=1045


Thats always the way it works. When I was raped by a preist at holy Spirit school/church back in the 70's everyone supported the rapist/preist and his victims had to endure the continued abuse.
I bet that the poor girl who reported this abuse now wishes that she had kept her mouth shut. If Lanigan is any kind of a man at all he will take a plea, do 7 to 10 like a man and spare this poor girl the pain of having to testify at a trial. We will see what kind of a man this Lanigan is.

Kurtis Wrote:
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> I bet that the poor girl who reported this abuse
> now wishes that she had kept her mouth shut.

Let this be a lesson to all of you abuse victims!!! Keep your mouths shut! Don't be a snitch! You know what they say about snitches...

Hey dumbfuck, read my WHOLE post again. I didn't say say your opinions are wrong. I said you can't know for sure if your opinion is right or wrong since you weren't there! I was just as critical of the people who are sure he's innocent as people who think he's guilty. Geez, some people are stupid.

>justsayin () wrote:
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>So how do we know YOU aren't a criminal, posting here to throw everyone off? Why >don't you admit you don't know what really happened and stop telling people their >opinions are wrong?
>HeyPeople Wrote:
>-------------------------------------------------------
>> To all you people
>> who say he couldn't have because he's such a nice
>> guy or whatever, many people found out to be
>> murderers and other criminals have been "nice
>> guys". You can never really know someone.

HeyPeople Wrote:
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> know for sure if your opinion is right or wrong


isn't that what an opinion is...?!? neither right or wrong...

It is my opinion that smoking crack is good for you.

-Is my opinion right?
No.

-Is it still my opinion?
YES.

People posting here obviously don't have solid enough evidence to report to serious places, so why even bother telling them to do so? Let's just see what happens.

Jimbo Wrote:
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Some parents of kids he coaches are saying he didn't do it: http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/cms/story.php?id=1045

One of the soccer parents was quoted as saying: "He's been a complete role model and loves sports." He may be completely innocent, but I still have a hard time calling him a role model. This is a guy with a history of being verbally abusive to referees. It is one thing to say his teams win, he is an excellent trainer, or he gets players into D1 schools. Those are all true. But anyone who says he is a role model has his head firmly planted up his rectum. Soccer parents are enablers. They accept bad behavior as long as the team wins.

Official policy of Fairfax County Public Schools:

Who needs proof when an accusation will suffice?

I am completely dumbounded by people's ignorance. No facts regarding this case have been made public. There has only been an assusation, and an accusation is not a sentence of guilt. In order to file charges and make an arrest, there has to be plausible evidence. They don't charge someone with a crime, without cause. However, it is up to our judicial system to ensure a fair and speedy trial. Obviously, the District Attorney's office has a lot of work to do if they intend to prove Lanigan's guilt. On the other hand, his attorney has a lot of work to do if he/she intends to prove Lanigan's innocence. So let's leave this to the courts and hope both party's attorneys, accused and accuser, do their jobs and justice prevails.

To reiterate my accusation that people are ignorant, simply read the posts. I'm embarrassed for many. Their spelling and grammar are horrendous; how sad! Students are writing in support of their PE teacher, but are embarrasing their school system with their poor grammar. Parents and other adults are not much better. I read dozens upon dozens of posts; many with unpoven accusations and/or support for one side or the other, and only a handful were well written. How you present yourself has a lot to do with how you are perceived by others. If you expect to be taken seriously, then be professional.

I'm really getting sick of the "how dare you think he did this" set. Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't. The reality, though, is we live in a world where well-respected pillars of community in a position of trust can do incredibly fucked up things, and can get away with it because nobody questions their integrity. I'm sure a lot of people thought Bernie Madoff was a decent man. I bet a lot of parents thought their priest was a really great guy, too, right up until the priest fucked their kid.

So yeah, let's not assume he's guilty, but don't assume he's innocent, either. The latter is actually potentially more harmful.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

No that's not what an opinion is. An opinion can be proven right or wrong in time (usually) with the facts. Not everyone waits for the facts to draw their opinion. And some of those people don't even realize that what they believe is just an opinion. They think it's a cold hard fact, as evidenced by some of the posters on this thread.

>HeyPeople Wrote:
>-------------------------------------------------------

>> know for sure if your opinion is right or wrong


>isn't that what an opinion is...?!? neither right or wrong...

I know this guy and this story is wierd. I am not trying to call a 12 year a girl liar he may have taken horse play to far but sexually assualt . If he was a real pervert why would he do it in a school

Dumbfounded Wrote:
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> I am completely dumbounded by people's ignorance.
> No facts regarding this case have been made
> public. There has only been an assusation, and an
> accusation is not a sentence of guilt.

You are completely naive if you think in this world such an accusation doesn't have the same effect as a guilty verdict whether there is a trial or not. Even if they dropped charges due to "insufficient evidence to proceed" everyone would still wonder. This is why accused in these cases should not be publicized. One very obvious "fact" you don't seem to get is the name of the accused.

We get the whole civics lesson. Everything you said can be accomplished while protecting names of both accusers and accused until trials are done.

By the way, it is totally moronic to take posters to task for bad writing when the fourth word of your post is "dumbbounded." What are "assusations"? Gay porn reviews?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/12/2010 07:47PM by pgens.

story is sketchy Wrote:
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> I know this guy and this story is wierd. I am not
> trying to call a 12 year a girl liar he may have
> taken horse play to far but sexually assualt . If
> he was a real pervert why would he do it in a
> school


if that logic was correct, then why does a "real pervert" assault kids in toys r us stores? It is a matter of being given an opportunity and being a sick headed person not being able to know better. If he is found guilty in court then I definitely say that he should be sent to prison where Bubba will treat him like the other sex offenders. I have no opinion either way, guilty/not guilty as I do not know the facts. That being said, I was just making a point as to say that your story holds no water as to say that a "real pervert" would not do it in a school. Those sickos do that shit all of the time.

seriously you cant really judge people by what they have done in the past or what they sound like or look like. even if u have known this guy for years and he seems really nice he might not be. look at the colts former wide reciever Marvin Harrison... everyone thought he was an angel and would never do anything bad well he pulled a gun at a gas station and is in jail now. So really just dont judge someone by what you think at first sight

Pgens:

I think you missed my point. I don't disagree that the media should not be allowed to publicize the name of the accused or plaster the person's face all over the internet and/or TV. I think that is a completely unfair practice and allows for bias. It also interferes with the ability to find an impartial jury. I'm simply annoyed at the fact that so many people, whether they know the accused or not, have opinions of guilt/not guilt before we have any facts. There is obviously more to the case than we all know, and we therefore do not have enough information to make an informed decision one way or the other.

And my other point is regarding professionalism. Honestly, a slight typo makes me a moron??

Dumbfounded Wrote:
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> And my other point is regarding professionalism.
> Honestly, a slight typo makes me a moron??

Your post didn't contain the word professionalism, it contained the words spelling and grammar. It is certainly moronic to criticize people in a public forum for poor spelling and misspell words doing so. If you want to be a spelling and grammar cop then at least spell words correctly.

Yes, my post did contain a reference to professionalism:

To quote myself, I said, " If you expect to be taken seriously, then be professional." You yourself seem to have a problem with professionalism; making inappropriate references to gay porn and calling people names. Such inappropriateness doesn't allow for your post to be taken seriously.

Arguing over mere technicalities is a waste of my time. I made no spelling errors, but left a letter out, hence it was a typographical error. Forgive me. My opinion stands, and as a teacher, I repeat that students and parents defending their PE teacher are embarrassing their school system with their poor grammar! If they expect to be taken seriously, then they too should be more professional.

Get a life pgens! And speaking of taking you seriously, don't expect a rebuttal. You're wasting my time!

> I made no spelling errors, but left a letter out, hence it was a typographical error.


Obviously, it was a typo if you're a Democrat, but a spelling error if you're Republican.

Ha...good one 57 States, but you've pegged me wrong ; ) Good try though!

Dumbfounded Wrote:
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> I made no spelling errors, but left a
> letter out, hence it was a typographical error.

"dumbbounded" and "assusations" don't have any letters left out, those are spelling errors. Now you show you can neither read nor write.



> My opinion stands, and as a teacher,

OH NO. No wonder kids can't spell or write anymore, their teachers can't read or write either (and demonstrate it very publicly in this case). Here is an article on your efforts:

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/01/31/12686831-cp.html

dumbounded: TYPO....left out the "f"

assusations: TYPO... "ss" typed instead of "cc"

In case you hadn't noticed, the words were used several times in the course of the context and spelled correctly, hence you're picking out the TYPO'S!!

Point taken though pgens! I obviously need to sharpen my editing skills! That still doesn't account for the numerous, poorly written statements! There's a vast difference between typo's and course writing.

DumbFounded Wrote:
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> dumbounded: TYPO....left out the "f"
>
> assusations: TYPO... "ss" typed instead of "cc"
>
> In case you hadn't noticed, the words were used
> several times in the course of the context and
> spelled correctly, hence you're picking out the
> TYPO'S!!
>
> Point taken though pgens! I obviously need to
> sharpen my editing skills! That still doesn't
> account for the numerous, poorly written
> statements! There's a vast difference between
> typo's and course writing.


Nobody cares. Stop getting your panties in a bunch and get over it.

I will presume that the accused is innocent until proven guilty, but the people who say he could not have done it because he is a role model and has a 12 year old daughter have not been paying attention. Consider the case of Ralph Shipler, another Herndon coach. Old Ralphie videotaped his 12 year old daughter's teammates changing. Here is what was said about him at trial: "Not only did people see him as a coach, but as a friendly grandpa, a good husband and father and a good member of the community." Here are the details: http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/articleprint.asp?article=237525&paper=63&cat=104

Another coach who pulled the wool over people's eyes is Bernie McHale. He was referred to as a "well-liked, charismatic coach" at his trial. This did not stop him from playing hide the salami with an underage player: http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=248541&paper=68%20&cat=104

Concerned Mother I completely agree with your assessment that Sean didn't do what he is alleged to have done with this Centre Ridge student. However, unlike my faith in Sean's innocence, you actually have material input that could greatly assist Sean in defending himself from potentially 30 years in prison if he is (wrongfully) convicted of these charges.

Anonymous emails and/or unsigned letters making factual statements that could potentially help Sean do not carry any weight with Fairfax County Public Schools or Fairfax County Police because, to them, the emails and letters could have been written by Sean himself or some associate of his. They would be entirely correct in dismissing such input.

I sincerely urge you to contact the Fairfax County Police with what you know. Ask them to keep your name and your children's names confidential. Taking that courageous action could well be worth more than 1,000 emails in general support of Sean. Doing it now may head off any more damage to Sean's good name and excellent reputation as a family man, teacher and coach. There's a lot riding on people like you coming forward to the authorities with relevant information about this case.

Are you saying that those priests who are alleged to touch boys don't because they are priests. Everyone is human, no matter their occupation, religous beliefs, etc. Therefore believing what someone will do privately vs. what a person does when alone is not necessarily always the same. ie. this teacher may not have been the same person when talking with parents/fellow teachers and when alone with this 12 year old girl.



Just Saying.

George Best Wrote:
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> I will presume that the accused is innocent until
> proven guilty, but the people who say he could not
> have done it because he is a role model and has a
> 12 year old daughter have not been paying
> attention. Consider the case of Ralph Shipler,
> another Herndon coach. Old Ralphie videotaped his
> 12 year old daughter's teammates changing. Here
> is what was said about him at trial: "Not only did
> people see him as a coach, but as a friendly
> grandpa, a good husband and father and a good
> member of the community." Here are the details:
> http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/articleprint.a
> sp?article=237525&paper=63&cat=104
>
> Another coach who pulled the wool over people's
> eyes is Bernie McHale. He was referred to as a
> "well-liked, charismatic coach" at his trial.
> This did not stop him from playing hide the salami
> with an underage player:
> http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?ar
> ticle=248541&paper=68%20&cat=104

Exactly. Some people shouldn't be so quick to condemn him as guilty, but some people need to realize that the people who don't get caught are the people nobody suspects.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

To "William is a Moron" Do you think anyone gives your opinions due respect or consider your thoughts as mature when they see how you set up your anonymous response with such an uncivil blog name?

If you know Sean Lanigan and have an opinion as to whether he is capable of doing what he is alleged to have done, feel free to state it, as I did. I've known him for 13 years and my opinion is he's a responsible, stand-up guy who is going to either have these charges dismissed or he'll be found innocent of them after a trial. You obviously don't know Sean but want to reflexively compare him to priests "...who are alleged to touch boys".

And you also state in your blog entry that, "...when alone with this 12-year-old girl." At least one report I've read describes the scenario for this alleged incident as there being four students present in the Centre Ridge gym when the supposed assault took place.

My advice yesterday to Concerned Mother to bring any evidence she may have to the police can either help or hurt Sean but if she actually has factual information, I'm betting Sean will benefit from whatever she has to say.

Lastly, regardless of how Sean's case works out, it uncovered a significant shortcoming in Fairfax County policies and procedures. Fairfax County Public Schools acted in accord with their policies by suspending Sean when these very serious allegations came up. Fairfax County Police likely folowed their policies and procedures when they arrested him based on the statement of a 12-year-old girl that they apparently considered credible at the time. When this case plays out and if the charges are dismissed or Sean is found not guilty at a trial, how does Fairfax County make fair restitution to Sean for the stress and incalculable damage his name and reputation have undergone as a result of their processes?

Honestly, what would you think "William is a Moron" if the same thing happened to you?

Just asking.

So William, what you are saying is that Fairfax County should not have suspended him straight off because of incalculable damage to his name, reputation, etc. So if he is found guilty then what position would that have put the Fairfax county school system in?

William22030 Wrote:
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> I've known him for 13 years and my opinion is he's
> a responsible, stand-up guy


People knew the BTK serial killer longer than that and thought the exact same things about him but he still got his jollies off killing people.

I,too, was accused of, but not charged with, a loathsome crime while working for FCPS.

Before meeting that reptilian gnome detective, I got a lawyer.

There was no evidence that I had committed this crime for a very good reason: I did not do it.

It is my understanding that the alleged victim could not even speak in complete sentences.

I believe that another person with access to the alleged victim could have been doing on regular basis what I was accused of having done.

I base this assertion on the behavior and language of the alleged victim which was reported promptly.

In my case, I believe there was exculpatory evidence and it was lost or destroyed.

I uncovered evidence that police or FCPS officials induced a potential witness to lie.

I found evidence that this witness (a driver) had been cited and convicted for a serious traffic violation for which the fine was $500. I have a certified copy of the court documents. The driver remains employed by FCPS in the Madison pyramid.

FCPS officials know about the conviction because I provided them with a copy of the documents.

The driver apparently also had custody of a female student at James Madison High School. The student had a different surname. I have long wondered if a deal was cut in which leniency for the student was arranged in a court case in return for the statement.

The driver told my attorney "I told that detective I didn't see anything."

Yet a false statement was later submitted to FCPS.

I found evidence that another individual with direct daily access to the alleged victim (a minor) had been convicted of liquor violations in local courts. Yet the individual remained employed by FCPS despite this and conviction of another case. This employee is a former FCPS special education student who has repeatedly displayed anti-social behavior. The mother of this employee is also a bus driver. Did FCPS vet this person in the hiring process?

I have copies of court documents in both cases.

I have raised this question in the past and I raise it again today:

Who needs proof when an accusation will suffice?

I remember how people said Justin Wolfe was a good guy and that there was no way he could've had that other guy killed. Well he is now on death row. Selling drugs does not always make someone a bad person just like being a teacher does not always make someone a good person.

Willie Wadonkadonk Wrote:
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> So William, what you are saying is that Fairfax
> County should not have suspended him straight off
> because of incalculable damage to his name,
> reputation, etc. So if he is found guilty then
> what position would that have put the Fairfax
> county school system in?


FCPS can put anyone on administrative leave without the police posting a picture with an accusation. No one has to give a reason why, they could give "internal reasons" or even "a personnel issue" without the accusation that is more or less a death penalty because the accusation can end one's life and career.

If found guilty his name and mug shot are then published along with the conviction and FCPS fires him. If he isn't found guilty, he is put back to work.

that is the newspapers fault pgens not FCPS.

Cara. Wrote:
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> I remember how people said Justin Wolfe was a good
> guy and that there was no way he could've had that
> other guy killed. Well he is now on death row.
> Selling drugs does not always make someone a bad
> person just like being a teacher does not always
> make someone a good person.

Justin Wolfe's case is not over. He is on death row but I have read wacko stuff about the case, to include major witnesses admitting perjury. I'm not saying from what I have read that he was a saint, but I'd let the appeals occur before final conclusions.

Not so fast . . .

Craig Gordon was FIRED by FCPS without ever having been charged.

See link and article below.

Note who represented him:

Steve Stone, the same attorney for the Loudoun assistant principal who nearly got railroaded on porn charges.

Steve did a good job in both cases, but it wasn't enough to save Craig Gordon.



http://webhost.bridgew.edu/jhuber/readings/accused_of_sexual_misconduct.html


How Do Teachers Prevent False Accusations?
FEA
Fairfax Education Association
Special Report
Protect yourself
from sexual abuse charges

For years, teachers have been concerned about inappropriate verbal or physical abuse from students. Recently, however, teachers seem to be facing a new fear: student accusations of sexual misconduct

Alan Barbee, investigative specialist for the Fairfax County Public Schools in Virginia, notes that since 1986 there have been 111 allegations of sexual misconduct formally investigated by the county. Fifty-six of the cases were determined founded, 31 were unfounded, and 21 were inconclusive. Barbee said 22 school system employees have been arrested in the same eight-year period (Fairfax Journal, May 10, 1994).

Craig Gordon, 46, a teacher for 21 years and once nominated for Fairfax County Teacher of the Year, is one of the accused teachers. From March of 1993 until July of 1994, Gordon was placed in the untenuous position of having to defend himself against charges that he improperly touched female students while teaching elementary physical education.

Gordon was suspended and recommended for firing in April, 1993, by Fairfax County Public Schools Superintendent Robert Spillane after eight girls formally accused him of fondling them during class. His case has been highly publicized and was the focus of a fall, 1994, documentary by the CBS news show 48 Hours.

Under the Virginia Code, the School Board has the exclusive power to decide questions concerning the termination of teachers. A teacher who is recommended for termination has the right to an administrative hearing before the School Board. Gordon asked for the series of hearings to clear his name and to hopefully reverse the dismissal recommendation.

After ten nights of trial-like public hearings, fifty eight hours of testimony, and five hours of deliberations, the Fairfax County School Board voted 6-2 to uphold the Superintendent's recommendation to fire Gordon.

Summing up the case against Gordon, school system Attorney Anne Murphy said: "What you have here is a man who does bad things to young girls, and he's been doing it for a long time."

In his closing argument, Steven Stone, Attorney for Mr. Gordon, said, "this client was the victim of hysteria, political correctness... a changing society that once encouraged teachers to hug students to give encouragement."

Professional Implications
Following the Gordon hearings, the Editorial Page of the Fairfax Journal (July 22, 1994) noted that, "What's appropriate and what isn't haven't changed over the years, and we shudder if the day has arrived when handshakes are the warmest contact between teachers and students." Gary Reese, School Board member, had a different view. He said, "Let's define what is appropriate or inappropriate touching. We've got to give teachers' more help" (Fairfax Journal, June 27, 1994).

Glen Bayless, President of the Fairfax County Elementary Physical Education Teachers Association, also wants a list of standards that address appropriate and inappropriate teacher behavior. Bayless notes that, "This case points out that the informal rules have changed over time and physical education teachers are among those most vulnerable. Gymnastics, which is a major portion of the elementary physical education curriculum, requires a teacher to use manual manipulation and physical guidance to assure safety and success. But how do you protect yourself when you may be the only teacher in a gymnasium with a group of children?"

Rick Willis, Executive Director of the Fairfax Education Association (FEA), says that, 'The advice I give teachers is to keep their hands off kids-period. It's the only way teachers can protect themselves. Some teachers, therefore, may elect not to teach activities that require physical contact."

The FEA has issued a special bulletin recently entitled: Protect Yourself From Sexual Abuse Charges. The bulletin states that if teachers follow some simple rules, they can dramatically improve chances of not being accused of assaults against students. One such rule directs teachers to avoid being alone with a student in an enclosed space where a teacher cannot be observed by another adult.

Many schools now use metal detectors to ensure the safety of children and staff. Should school systems call upon additional technology to help sustain teachers' careers? Have we arrived at a point where physical education teachers must demand surveillance cameras in their gymnasiums to prevent false accusations? Would this be perceived as another case of big brother watching---an invasion of privacy? On the other hand, if surveillance can save the careers of teachers, shouldn't such cameras be used?




> FCPS can put anyone on administrative leave
> without the police posting a picture with an
> accusation. No one has to give a reason why, they
> could give "internal reasons" or even "a personnel
> issue" without the accusation that is more or less
> a death penalty because the accusation can end
> one's life and career.
>
> If found guilty his name and mug shot are then
> published along with the conviction and FCPS fires
> him. If he isn't found guilty, he is put back to
> work.

Can you provide a link to the Facebook page?



Re: Centre Ridge PE teacher sexually assaults 12 year old girl
Posted by: VEIK ()
Date: February 03, 2010 10:19AM


From Facebook:

"okay. hes mi gym teacher. stephanie is lying. hes great. he would never do anything like that..... i miss him alott and keep him in my prayerss. that little girll is lyinggg....... join this if you agree with me."


Let see how soon the media will spill the full name of that kid...

i never said that Justin Wolfe was guilty... I was going back to what GMU Hokie had said about false accusations going to court.