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ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Lb5thprincipal ()
Date: November 14, 2018 04:06PM

Lake Braddock to have its 4th principal in less than a year. Penny Gros is taking over as interim. The true FCPS revolving door. Maybe the school will hit double digits by the end of the school year.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Again? ()
Date: November 14, 2018 05:28PM

No reason for Meier’s abrupt departure either. Staff was after school notified today. Things always seem non-transparent at this school.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Sickofshit ()
Date: November 14, 2018 05:34PM

So they remove our best administrator in years and leave us with this person?

We, the parents, grandparents, friends, and students of Jeb Stuart HS petition the Fairfax County Public School (FCPS) Superintendent, FCPS Assistant Superintendent's Cabinet, and FCPS School Board to remove Ms. Penny Gros from her position as principal of Jeb Stuart High School, Mr. Jeffery Barham from his position as assistant principal, and Mr. Cahir as a teacher effective immediately.
Jeb Stuart HS administration and some teachers have totally ignored the current rules and guidelines of FCPS and our children have now been experiencing terrible pain over these kinds of actions, and are being penalized because of extreme negligence and the callous disregard for the truth and the facts!
We believe Principal Penny Gros, Assistant Principal Jeffery Barham, and English teacher Michael Cahir were involved in a conspiracy and have caused an innocent bright child to tragically experience the agony and tremendous sadness. We strongly believe that this was done with complete malice – causing this child and parents to experience significant emotional damage and an unfair tarnishing of her reputation, credibility, and integrity.
We also brought a number of major issues and concerns to the FCPS leadership and to our school board attention, relating to extreme negligence and malicious behavior by the Jeb Stuart HS administration and staffs, who, we adamantly contend, have deliberately targeted bright and talented minority students, and have caused them and their parents serious emotional stress and immeasurable heartache. This malicious behavior has become a normal practice at Jeb Stuart HS and we cannot and will not tolerate it. All of those involved in this horrendous travesty should and must be held responsible and accountable.
Principal Penny Gros and her autocratic administration failed to protect our children from ongoing bullying and drug dealers inside the school and play “blame games” against talented IB students and being a “stumbling block” to the progress, potential, and success of our children. The JEB Stuart HS administration has sadly lost its way and has lost sight of its legitimate purpose and mission. we hope that the FCPS leadership team and our school board will demonstrate some semblance of integrity and transparency and address our concerns that are extremely troubling in a timely and efficient manner, and will take swift corrective measures to protect our children in order that they not have to further suffer from unfair and harmful actions, which we firmly believe reflect a disturbing pattern of this administration’s apparent discriminatory practices.
We the undersigned are demanding as taxpayers and citizens that (1) concerns for our children will be met without resistance from our School Board and Superintendent’s cabinet (2) remove Ms. Penny Gros as principal, Mr. Jeffery Barham as assistant principal, and Michael Cahir as a teacher based on their malice behavior towards our children and (3) Bring back Principal Mr. Sean DeRose who worked very hard for years at Jeb Stuart as assistant principal and earned tremendous respect from our community.
This petition was emailed to:
• Fairfax County Mason District School Board and Chair
Ms. Sandy Evans
• FCPS Superintendent
• Mr. Scott Brabrand
• FCPS Assistant Superintendent (Region 2)
Mr. Fabio Zuluaga
• FCPS Executive Principal (Region 2)
Mr. Jay Pearson

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Unbelieveable ()
Date: November 15, 2018 07:35PM

The school system can send in the next victim. LBSS is where administrators go to lose their career, reputation, and dignity. It’s like the mafia too. No one will ever find out what happened or who accused you of what because the next victim will be lined up for demise.

Dam Meier deserves to be heard and the staff should be able to speak on his behalf. Damn whatever happened. How about we home school while FCPS gets their head out of their ass.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: fromthe top ()
Date: November 15, 2018 07:56PM

LB is still reeling from the mess that Dave Thomas left. The interims have tried to bring some assemblance of balance with their expertise in dealing with difficult situations. It hasn't been an easy task, a lot of the teachers administrators are holdovers from the Thomas regime. This is causing issues within Gatehouse as they want a clean slate with new administrators and department heads. As the interims have tried to compromise, this hasn't been enough. Gatehouse will get what they want or will continue to remove the interim principal's until they do.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: bbb ()
Date: November 16, 2018 09:59AM

So what does Gatehouse want?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Curious1 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 02:33PM

Interesting. So Gatehouse will keep replacing principals until the teacher administrators are replaced? If so, who at Gatehouse is making these decisions?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Whatnow ()
Date: November 16, 2018 02:42PM

Curious1 Wrote:
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> Interesting. So Gatehouse will keep replacing
> principals until the teacher administrators are
> replaced? If so, who at Gatehouse is making these
> decisions?


He was great so they removed him under the cover of secrecy. FCPS is the mafia?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Parent 66 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 05:42PM

LB leadership is a joke. Bishop is an abusive prick of a basketball coach. Lucas is going down as a supporter, cover up, cheater without any ethics. GBB needs a good douching. It’s crooked and deceitful. Carrying on the tradition I suppose.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: BRingbackDan ()
Date: November 16, 2018 07:29PM

He did nothing wrong. He was great and loved by kids and teachers. Damn you liars and FCPS. You owe him an apology. Hello lawsuit!

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Jfjdjdbdbnz ()
Date: November 17, 2018 08:23AM

LB teacher here: Dan was fine. But no one was enamored with him since he did absolutely nothing nor was he able to since he was just an interim. He smiled, walked around and sent emails. He truly did nothing of note for all of these people on this thread to be devestated. It’s high time the county hired a principal for LB; it’s absolutley ridiculous it hasn’t happened yet. Our school desperately needs a vision and direction and a LEADER. The squabbling amongst the asst principals needs to be handled.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: parent9 ()
Date: November 17, 2018 08:29AM

It is hard to believe that there was no problem behind firing him.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: LB Student ()
Date: November 17, 2018 01:57PM

Hi you're obviously not a teacher because any teacher would know that based off how immediate he left that he definitely got fired and it was so dire that it had to be effective immediately. I've heard it was a sexual assault/harassment of a coworker but i cannot verify. all i know is that if it really was because of what you said they wouldn't have done it so immediately and he would have said goodbye.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Fakeschoolcrap ()
Date: November 17, 2018 03:06PM

Jfjdjdbdbnz Wrote:
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> LB teacher here: Dan was fine. But no one was
> enamored with him since he did absolutely nothing
> nor was he able to since he was just an interim.
> He smiled, walked around and sent emails. He truly
> did nothing of note for all of these people on
> this thread to be devestated. It’s high time the
> county hired a principal for LB; it’s absolutley
> ridiculous it hasn’t happened yet. Our school
> desperately needs a vision and direction and a
> LEADER. The squabbling amongst the asst principals
> needs to be handled.

Liar. He has restored much of what that ass Banbury did to us! He was visible to all and he cleaned up the halls. He knew all by name and he was in the classrooms. Shit, what else do you want?

I hope FCPS has to make a huge apology! Besides, remove him and interview WHO? Who leaves a principal job in December? Does FCPS have something against LBSS?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: FBT ()
Date: November 17, 2018 05:20PM

FCPS screwed up every aspect of the principal search at Lake Braddock and Meier was providing stability. But don’t ever expect an apology. Just expect the usual “we cannot comment due to it being a personnel matter.” This is an embarrassment. It was an embarrassment to have an interim principal for so long at Oakton. Oh who was theirs? Danny Meier and he was liked. Anything that could go wrong has gone wrong with Lake Braddock‘s administration. The kids are fine, the teachers are fine, perhaps they don’t need somebody sitting in the big chair. They should get someone from outside of the county because anyone inside the county should not want to go near the place. Also with the HR principal pool process and another opening at Centreville, there will be slim pickings.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: FBTwrong ()
Date: November 17, 2018 06:53PM

The school was so much happier. Kids were in classrooms bell to bell. Teachers were thrilled again. Already, Friday, kids everywhere in the halls out of control and morale gone again. Penny Gros will be eaten alive like everyone else. Return Meier and make it through the year is our only hope.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: BringbackDan ()
Date: November 17, 2018 07:19PM

Whoever complained about Dan better have rock solid evidence or this will blow back on them! Dan was fixing shit that last asshole ruined. Teachers were teaching and students were in class. Watch the mass exodus now that another person has fallen victim to the black pit of career death called Lake Braddock. Anyone know of an assistant principal position anywhere else?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Danwastheanswer ()
Date: November 18, 2018 03:28PM

Parents unite! We want stability and what we were promised, a year of peace. Bring Dan back in with an apology....fast!

Entitled parents are compiling yet another legal action against this bullshit from the top AGAIN?

Leave Dave for a year but take Dan in a minute? Are you stupid or failing to follow procedure either way. I know! Have Ryan propose another declaration of words. That seems to help and the more words the better.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: ludicrous ()
Date: November 18, 2018 03:45PM

It sounds like a pretty terrible environment for an administrator to walk into. Where is all this high drama and finger pointing coming from?

My kid was at LBSS when Dave Thomas was there and I really had no issue with the man. He seemed dedicated to his work. I was actually pretty shocked to hear that he had been wrapped up in a scandal. Didn't seem like the type to me...but what do i know.

Good luck getting a replacement principal for LBSS. It's a shame that the school is going through such a rough and ugly transition period. That's not good for anyone.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: sadstateLBHS ()
Date: November 18, 2018 06:44PM

Sad to see another person "accused" of something and fired without due process. At some point, highly qualified individuals are going to stop wanting to teach at our schools. Did we not learn anything from the last Supreme Court hearings? Of course, someone who has solid evidence against the accuser, should be fired, but someone who is as respectable as Mr. Meier can be dismissed so quickly with no facts given, the list of candidates will be small. No one of quality will want to teach at LBHS. Just because you say something about someone, does not make it true. Facts, witnesses, and proof are always needed in a court of law. Just saying so is not how our judicial systems works, Leave of absence is what should have happened until all the facts were provided!

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Reallysadstate ()
Date: November 18, 2018 07:42PM

sadstateLBHS Wrote:
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> Sad to see another person "accused" of something
> and fired without due process. At some point,
> highly qualified individuals are going to stop
> wanting to teach at our schools. Did we not learn
> anything from the last Supreme Court hearings? Of
> course, someone who has solid evidence against the
> accuser, should be fired, but someone who is as
> respectable as Mr. Meier can be dismissed so
> quickly with no facts given, the list of
> candidates will be small. No one of quality will
> want to teach at LBHS. Just because you say
> something about someone, does not make it true.
> Facts, witnesses, and proof are always needed in a
> court of law. Just saying so is not how our
> judicial systems works, Leave of absence is what
> should have happened until all the facts were
> provided!

This is some angry AP pointing out things that are totally innocent and trying to make them seem like a big damn deal. I hope there’s an apology issued by the end of the week. Reinstate Dan Meier for the rest of the year otherwise who would want that job?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: We don’t know the facts ()
Date: November 18, 2018 08:59PM

Dan is a retiree...and that means he is a temporary employee. Temporary employees can’t take leaves of absence. Like anywhere else, personnel matters can’t be discussed so we won’t hear what happened. I just can’t figure out why they have been unable to hire a principal! No matter how it looks to us, principals in other counties would still kill to work in FCPS.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: H. G. ()
Date: November 18, 2018 09:21PM

No, they won’t. Word has gotten out what the illegals and other non whites have done to the school system.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Sustupid ()
Date: November 19, 2018 12:14AM

We don’t know the facts Wrote:
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> Dan is a retiree...and that means he is a
> temporary employee. Temporary employees can’t
> take leaves of absence. Like anywhere else,
> personnel matters can’t be discussed so we
> won’t hear what happened. I just can’t figure
> out why they have been unable to hire a principal!
> No matter how it looks to us, principals in other
> counties would still kill to work in FCPS.


You have no clue. Shut up. He had a year long contract and it will come out via due process. He will know and FCPS will issue some wordy message. We will all be pissed.

No reasonable person will leave their job in Dec/Jan for LBSS and if they do, we don’t want them.

There’s a hiring process and it failed last year. No one applied who could have done the job. NO ONE.

Best you be quiet since you are clueless.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Sam. I. Am. ()
Date: November 19, 2018 08:56AM

All you crusader parents need to take a seat.

Your meddling, rumor-mongering, witless ranting, unknowledgeable fact-spinning, defending the undeniable, and brown-nose angling is ruining the morale and basic fiber of a fine school that has a quality faculty.

I have never seen such impertinent and malicious conduct by individual parents who have such narrow objectives. You know who you are. Take a seat. Stand down. For the good of all who attend, support, and work at LBSS. Mamas and daddies -- again, you know who you are -- we know who you are -- trust the process.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: SoccerFamily ()
Date: November 19, 2018 11:14AM

Clearly you’re after Mr. Meier’s job. Are you mad because you can’t legitately be selected? Keep up your antics. We will see you caught.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Sam youre not ()
Date: November 19, 2018 11:17AM

Sam. I. Am. Wrote:
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> All you crusader parents need to take a seat.
>
> Your meddling, rumor-mongering, witless ranting,
> unknowledgeable fact-spinning, defending the
> undeniable, and brown-nose angling is ruining the
> morale and basic fiber of a fine school that has a
> quality faculty.
>
> I have never seen such impertinent and malicious
> conduct by individual parents who
> have such narrow objectives. You know who you
> are. Take a seat. Stand down. For the good of
> all who attend, support, and work at LBSS. Mamas
> and daddies -- again, you know who you are -- we
> know who you are -- trust the process.

Who are you talking about? Because no teacher or parent trusts this process but someone who has tampered with it. It doesn’t work.

I think it’s YOU. Better get off your computer at work!

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Stop hiring temp principals ()
Date: November 19, 2018 12:54PM

When my kids were in Robinson they dragged Ponton out of retirement to replace retiring Principal Dan Meier. Then they dragged Meier out of retirement to take over Lake Braddock. Maybe the real question should be why can't FCPS develop new talent to fill these high school vacancies.

Principals who are at retirement or who have been called out of retirement do not have an incentive to deal with the shit that is becoming a larger part of the job. If the trouble cannot be ignored then they leave and pass the problem on to the next principal. They also do not have an incentive to form new relationships with people who have experience dealing with the problems. Instead they bring in outsiders they knew in the past who don't know what they are getting into, throwing gasoline on the fire. Hire someone who is five or six years out from his pension and it will be a different story.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Disagreethistime ()
Date: November 19, 2018 01:18PM

Stop hiring temp principals Wrote:
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> When my kids were in Robinson they dragged Ponton
> out of retirement to replace retiring Principal
> Dan Meier. Then they dragged Meier out of
> retirement to take over Lake Braddock. Maybe the
> real question should be why can't FCPS develop new
> talent to fill these high school vacancies.
>
> Principals who are at retirement or who have been
> called out of retirement do not have an incentive
> to deal with the shit that is becoming a larger
> part of the job. If the trouble cannot be ignored
> then they leave and pass the problem on to the
> next principal. They also do not have an
> incentive to form new relationships with people
> who have experience dealing with the problems.
> Instead they bring in outsiders they knew in the
> past who don't know what they are getting into,
> throwing gasoline on the fire. Hire someone who
> is five or six years out from his pension and it
> will be a different story.

Dan Meier was good enough to have parents and teacher both asking if he could stay a second year.

There was no one qualified or appropriate to hire last spring. Why do you think there’s someone new available now that school has started?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Legalparent ()
Date: November 19, 2018 01:40PM

Sam. I. Am. Wrote:
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> All you crusader parents need to take a seat.
>
> Your meddling, rumor-mongering, witless ranting,
> unknowledgeable fact-spinning, defending the
> undeniable, and brown-nose angling is ruining the
> morale and basic fiber of a fine school that has a
> quality faculty.
>
> I have never seen such impertinent and malicious
> conduct by individual parents who
> have such narrow objectives. You know who you
> are. Take a seat. Stand down. For the good of
> all who attend, support, and work at LBSS. Mamas
> and daddies -- again, you know who you are -- we
> know who you are -- trust the process.


What process?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Nsjsjsbzbbzns ()
Date: November 19, 2018 03:52PM

No teacher was asking Meier to stay a second year. What are you talking about? Teachers want a principal, not another interim who can’t do anything.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Stop hiring temp principals ()
Date: November 19, 2018 04:01PM

Disagreethistime Wrote:
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> Dan Meier was good enough to have parents and
> teacher both asking if he could stay a second
> year.
>
> There was no one qualified or appropriate to hire
> last spring. Why do you think there’s someone
> new available now that school has started?


You missed the point. It wasn't whether Dan Meier was good enough. It was whether hiring at retirement or retired principals was a good policy.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Emilia Nebrichson ()
Date: November 19, 2018 04:35PM

Danwastheanswer Wrote:
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> Parents unite! We want stability and what we were
> promised, a year of peace. Bring Dan back in with
> an apology....fast!
>
> Entitled parents are compiling yet another legal
> action against this bullshit from the top AGAIN?
>
>
> Leave Dave for a year but take Dan in a minute?
> Are you stupid or failing to follow procedure
> either way. I know! Have Ryan propose another
> declaration of words. That seems to help and the
> more words the better.

Dans a fucking asshole. he was a creepy southern man who always paid extra attention to girls and always touched them. I am GLAD he is gone

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Emilia Nebrichson ()
Date: November 19, 2018 04:38PM

FBTwrong Wrote:
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> The school was so much happier. Kids were in
> classrooms bell to bell. Teachers were thrilled
> again. Already, Friday, kids everywhere in the
> halls out of control and morale gone again. Penny
> Gros will be eaten alive like everyone else.
> Return Meier and make it through the year is our
> only hope.


yea it was like that.. for the first week. then everyone stepped all over him like usual. Lake Braddock needs a STABLE principal who hasn't been involved in scandal, conspiracy, or really any shady business whatsoever

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: jsjsjsjsjakjfkdjdjdksjjewi ()
Date: November 19, 2018 07:01PM

what did banbury do wrong? why does everyone hate him?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: George Wiggywater Bush ()
Date: November 19, 2018 07:10PM

Dan has gone fishing. Word is that he has some real estate swampland for sale if you are interested.

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me thrice, we are all fools.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Letitgo ()
Date: November 19, 2018 07:43PM

Over. Old. Cleared.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: BanburyYuck ()
Date: November 19, 2018 09:07PM

jsjsjsjsjakjfkdjdjdksjjewi Wrote:
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> what did banbury do wrong? why does everyone hate
> him?

Who? That invisible man who was so rude to everyone? He made no professional friends at LBSS. He created a toxic environment where no one wanted to be. He lied. He was way too close with another poor administrator. He’s been fired or hidden back at Gatehouse? Sorry, he came in trying to take over a place that couldn’t be taken over.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Danfan ()
Date: November 19, 2018 09:08PM

George Wiggywater Bush Wrote:
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> Dan has gone fishing. Word is that he has some
> real estate swampland for sale if you are
> interested.
>
> Fool me once, shame on you.
>
> Fool me twice, shame on me.
>
> Fool me thrice, we are all fools.

How pitiful. He was a great leader at LBSS and all loved him.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Danfanmyaszz ()
Date: November 19, 2018 09:14PM

Lady mama, please stand down.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Notachance ()
Date: November 20, 2018 11:25AM

Danfanmyaszz Wrote:
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> Lady mama, please stand down.
Does this man daddy have to stand down too?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Getoutthetrash ()
Date: November 20, 2018 04:51PM

You have a snake in the front office. A snake with a nasty past.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Meanmouth ()
Date: November 21, 2018 02:21AM

Danfanmyaszz Wrote:
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> Lady mama, please stand down.

Don’t you have work to do?

And try to be nice if you can. No? Then STFU.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Gritty knows ()
Date: November 21, 2018 02:24AM

Kek
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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: FCPS wonk ()
Date: November 21, 2018 11:13AM

Dan Meier is a retired principal -- retired being the optimal word. He is not a full time employee -- he is a "temporary employee" and as such, when looking into allegations that have been raised, and found to have merit of some kind, his employment is over. There is no buyout, there is no place to put him (Gatehouse, for example) and there is no reason to keep a problem employed. No matter your thoughts on all of this, FCPS is not alone in dealing with the egregious behavior of supervisors. What used to be laughed off (usually by the offender, not the "offendee") is not a laughing matter any more. However you personally feel about it, there is a new world order everywhere and in particular, there is not a lot of forgiveness for powerful men and women getting away with demeaning behavior.

We all want to know what happened, but personnel matters are not for public consumption anywhere, not just FCPS. One of the reasons the letters to the community from FCPS are important is that they are asking for your thoughts. Give them your thoughts -- not your complaints, not hurled insults at the panel; give them your well-thought out opinions and ask for transparency in the process. You may feel disappointed in this whole thing; but are your kids ok? Has anything really changed other than you have seen first hand just how difficult running a school can be? There's over 400 staff members to manage and close to 4,000 kids...not an easy task for anyone.

I am not an apologist for FCPS -- I am a burn victim, actually, but that's another story. Don't shoot the messenger - just think about what is really important. Your kids.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: MHG ()
Date: November 21, 2018 12:35PM

A wise teacher once said years ago that principals come and principals go and the only things that matters are the teachers and the students. I think I would agree with that. It’s unfortunate that we can’t rely on the monstrous administrative body outside of the schools to be a bit more efficient and more transparent in their dealings with those who do make a difference.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: MHG ()
Date: November 21, 2018 12:35PM

A wise teacher once said years ago that principals come and principals go and the only things that matters are the teachers and the students. I think I would agree with that. It’s unfortunate that we can’t rely on the monstrous administrative body outside of the schools to be a bit more efficient and more transparent in their dealings with those who do make a difference.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Read and Heed ()
Date: November 21, 2018 02:31PM

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Every now and then -- more then, than now, reasonable observations and input are provided on this forum. The above two are good examples.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: You know me as ()
Date: November 21, 2018 03:10PM

"We all want to know what happened"

Do we know what happened? We know what happened to start this ball rolling, but since then there has been a great deal in rumor and inuendo, but very little reliable information. So what some people who have tried to stay informed may think happen may not be what actually happened. The attitude of 'personnel matters are not for public consumption" makes it worse. The problem at Lake Braddock isn't just that there were a few bad actors there. The situation was so poorly handled intially that many parents and those in the community at Lake Braddock have lost faith in the ability and willingness of the FCPS system to fix things. FCPS no longer has just a personnel issue. It has a crisis in confidence in the system. Crises in confidence in the system are seldom solved by acting in secret.

FCPS needs to accept it is no longer enough that it simply acts properly in this matter. It must be seen by the community as acting properly. That means that the School System is going to need to be more transparent than it may be comfortable with. The short term discomfort though will result in a faster recovery.

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Posted by: RealityPill ()
Date: November 21, 2018 03:25PM

The information coming out from the superintendent is pile of horse hockey. Who will call him out on that? Is our Board of Education strong enough to see this fixed?

Cough up these said allegations against Meier, he's already ruined in this. He was just what we needed and HR messed up.At least tell Dan Meier directly who said what about him, otherwise this is a conspiracy to get the supt's buddy named. We won't tolerate him.

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Posted by: DantheMan ()
Date: November 21, 2018 03:40PM

Whatever he did, it must have been a real secret. No one saw anything. No one. Teachers loved the work he was doing and things were turning around. Inside the building, we have gone silent in a toxic work environment again. Kids are slowly figuring out that this is total bullshit. Now what?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Takingmythreeout ()
Date: November 21, 2018 03:45PM

Parents are ...well I'm looking to put three in private school. Enough scandal and lies. If FCPS will destroy a man who they beg to smooth things out, we're not staying. Bu bye, LBSS.

I read that email full of lies from the superintendent. NO way what he says is happening and he thinks we're stupid by sending that out.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Betsy Devoid of Brains ()
Date: November 21, 2018 04:15PM

I hope you all leave for private schools $$$$$....lowered enrollment at LBSS = smaller class sizes for my prize pupil children.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Truthplease ()
Date: November 21, 2018 04:40PM

Thank you.

Yes.

But restore Meier’s reputation and make the superintendent quit emailing out lies, please? We aren’t stupid.

If Meier is gone, then where is the arrest record? Tell the truth for once?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Nicetry ()
Date: November 21, 2018 04:44PM

Betsy Devoid of Brains Wrote:
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> I hope you all leave for private schools
> $$$$$....lowered enrollment at LBSS = smaller
> class sizes for my prize pupil children.

Teachers leaving too so the building is poverty stricken kids and IEPs.

Just help Dan and help LBSS recover. Some heads need to roll on this. This is a cover up. Another one.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: The Tin Man ()
Date: November 21, 2018 07:22PM

Arrest record??????? You certainly are clueless.

Meier pulled the plug because he didn't want to become embroiled in a prolonger personnel investigation. You don't need to be arrested to be accused of misconduct. And you don't need an arrest record to precede a personal decision to hang up the spikes.

You people certainly are clueless. Grabbing at straws and fighting straw men all at once.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving and don't come out of the kitchen until the new principal is hired. Then you can proceed to brown-nose all you wish.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Stewart Brazelton ()
Date: November 21, 2018 07:24PM

Nicetry Wrote:
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> Betsy Devoid of Brains Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I hope you all leave for private schools
> > $$$$$....lowered enrollment at LBSS = smaller
> > class sizes for my prize pupil children.
>
> Teachers leaving too so the building is poverty
> stricken kids and IEPs.
>
> Just help Dan and help LBSS recover. Some heads
> need to roll on this. This is a cover up. Another
> one.

The IEP kids are all upper middle class as parents scheme to give the DD and DS all the advantages they can advocate for and fabricate.

These "twice execptional" and "above average" IEP kids are ruining public education.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Mama Knows Best ()
Date: November 21, 2018 07:33PM

Thomas gone.
Banbury gone.
Meier gone.
Gros will be gone.

Parents move on....nothing to see her. The past is prologue. Trust the process or pull your kids out and home-school them.

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Posted by: LB observers ()
Date: November 21, 2018 08:19PM

Till a principal with balls is incharge of LB it will not change. Need to clear all the parents out and take charge and control. Can’t let the parents run into he school as they only care about Their child. Always think their way is the best and only way. Don’t let the inmates run the asylum

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: StupidAss ()
Date: November 21, 2018 10:23PM

The Tin Man Wrote:
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> Arrest record??????? You certainly are clueless.
>
> Meier pulled the plug because he didn't want to
> become embroiled in a prolonger personnel
> investigation. You don't need to be arrested to
> be accused of misconduct. And you don't need an
> arrest record to precede a personal decision to
> hang up the spikes.
>
> You people certainly are clueless. Grabbing at
> straws and fighting straw men all at once.
>
> Enjoy your Thanksgiving and don't come out of the
> kitchen until the new principal is hired. Then
> you can proceed to brown-nose all you wish.

What this post says, dumbass, is that if what Dan was accused of was wrong why isn’t there an arrest record? There isn’t one and there’s nothing there to cause this rash and insane decision. Dan Meier did not leave and he’s not guilty of anything either.

Set up for someone’s buddy to be selected? Yeah, that’s more like it.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ()
Date: November 21, 2018 10:47PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....wake me up when the new principal is hired.

Beating a dead horse.

That's the life spiral of these LB parents.

Keep crying over the latest disposed principal, while the rest of us or moving forward.

You cried over Dave. Dave gone.

You cry over Dan. Dan gone.

Notice a pattern. Keep crying. You be gone too.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Youarestupidandgross ()
Date: November 21, 2018 11:09PM

Stupid. Gros isn’t a trial principal.

Yes, Banbury was the same as she is, Executive Principal, but he was on a power trip and had a woman in the building. He was an interim who got out of control and decided to try to stay. Apparently LBSS chewed him up and spit his invisible, cruel, scary, lying ass out. They took him back to Gatehouse for some reason.

By the way, what parents are running the place? Call them out and say NO! I see volunteers a lot but most all my parents back me up and then some. The others, I ignore. I don’t have any twice exceptional kids.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Poorleaderemptyschool ()
Date: November 21, 2018 11:12PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wrote:
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> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....wake me up when the
> new principal is hired.
>
> Beating a dead horse.
>
> That's the life spiral of these LB parents.
>
> Keep crying over the latest disposed principal,
> while the rest of us or moving forward.
>
> You cried over Dave. Dave gone.
>
> You cry over Dan. Dan gone.
>
> Notice a pattern. Keep crying. You be gone too.

They bring another shit show in like that Banbury ass and we all walk out. The end.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: FCPS Wonk ()
Date: November 22, 2018 11:32AM

It is outrageous if Dan Meier was removed because of a lie. It is also grounds for a lawyer for slander, at the very least. I have trouble believing that FCPS would set themselves up for that without being very, very sure of what they are doing. Dan was beloved at Robinson, where he was principal for 10 years, mostly because of his positive personality. He is gregarious and outgoing and talks to everyone. He knows every name of every staff member and most students, too. For the record, I do not know him and have never met him. I just know people who do and that is the description I have heard.

I also heard he knows nothing about instruction, had a volcanic temper, got into a land-buying scam that he asked colleagues to join, and he and others had to file for bankruptcy over it. It was set up by a former student he coached at Chantilly. Careers ended, marriages ended, and more than one person had significant mental health issues over it. He never once apologized to anyone - he was cleared in court of knowing it was a scam (really...?) When he accepted a job in Alabama when the dust cleared, they rescinded the offer when they found out. He had already publicly announced his departure.

This is not to tear him apart...you can find all this in a google search. He has many gifts, and many of you were a witness to the best of Dan. Sometimes, not everything is as it seems. As burned as the LBSS community feels, your kids will do well because they are being raised by YOU...you will ensure they get what they need. They learn the most important lessons at home. School can only do so much.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: It's the damn parents ()
Date: November 22, 2018 01:01PM

Dan Meier was a nice guy ... not gonna rock the boat, not gonna make any major changes ... but he's old school. Cares more about the score of this week's athletic contest than accountability, more about reducing disciplinary incidents by sweeping them under the rug than actually working with kids having a tough time. And old school guys like that operated differently back then ... a pat on the back. a hand on the arm, an off-the-cuff comment - nothing meant to harm, but things you can't do anymore in an era of higher scrutiny. I'm sure what Dan did wasn't cause for removal 20 years ago ... but times have changed.

For all those idiot parents demanding the details - it's not any of your damn business, and it's privileged information, so stop acting like you're so damned important. These things are confidential for a reason.

The problem at LBSS is no one says "No". When a parent gets pissed and doesn't like the answer they got, that person pushes it up the chain, they go to the next level. The buck doesn't stop until the parent gets what they want or they threaten to publish a variety of half-truths and skewed information publicly until they get what they want.

The issue isn't FCPS ... it's asshole entitled parents who think they or their precious offspring don't need to follow the rules and deserve special treatment. Go ahead and put your kid in private school, or move out to podunk western or southern VA - you're not going to find better schools, just dumber kids who make yours look smarter than they really are.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: It's The Damn Parents ()
Date: November 22, 2018 01:24PM

+ 1,000

True that.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Building some ()
Date: November 22, 2018 01:39PM

What’s the reason they’re confidential?
Just like Poythress was fired and no information was released. Well, guess what? Poythress was innocent.
So, teachers and others are just supposed to accept the removal of their principal, and trust that it was for a good reason?
Yeah, right!

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Fessup ()
Date: November 22, 2018 07:12PM

So parents complained about Dan’s ability to calm the school? He was asked to come in for a year and build back the school and trust. Who didn’t like that? Fess up! No one knows anything?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Sinkingship ()
Date: November 23, 2018 04:47PM

Why won’t FCPS let Dan finish the year and save the school? No nationwide search will work for early January. With all the lawsuits going on, no one can say anything? Is that it? I don’t trust FCPS anymore and I really don’t now. When does the walk out/strike start? We deserve better.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: More fake news ()
Date: November 23, 2018 05:13PM

Fcps can’t be trusted. We should know what the charge is. FCPS is like the fake news people.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Penny Dreadful ()
Date: November 28, 2018 06:02PM

Check this out
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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Rupert Murdoch Roger Ailes ()
Date: November 29, 2018 08:50PM

Fox5 News reports:

Fairfax County schools expands principal search in the wake of harassment controversy

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/fairfax-county-schools-expands-principal-search-in-the-wake-of-harassment-controversy

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Next ()
Date: November 29, 2018 10:50PM

Rupert Murdoch Roger Ailes Wrote:
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> Fox5 News reports:
>
> Fairfax County schools expands principal search in
> the wake of harassment controversy
>
> http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/fairfax-coun
> ty-schools-expands-principal-search-in-the-wake-of
> -harassment-controversy

Who wants THIS?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Eatthesebubbles ()
Date: November 30, 2018 05:24PM

How about FCPS go jump in their own “hiring pool?”

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Meanwhile ()
Date: May 06, 2019 10:53PM

No one believes this current guy is the result of some national search.

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: O. Key Doke ()
Date: May 22, 2019 10:31AM


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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: carzy4sure ()
Date: May 22, 2019 11:14AM

FCPS has some splainin to do

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Dan Knows ()
Date: May 23, 2019 09:17AM

Hmmm, wonder if Dave THOMAS is still getting his salary AND retirement!

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: BringBackDan ()
Date: May 24, 2019 10:46PM

Sinkingship Wrote:
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> Why won’t FCPS let Dan finish the year and save
> the school? No nationwide search will work for
> early January. With all the lawsuits going on, no
> one can say anything? Is that it? I don’t trust
> FCPS anymore and I really don’t now. When does
> the walk out/strike start? We deserve better.

Nationwide search? When can Dan come back?

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Re: ANOTHER LB PRINCIPAL
Posted by: Chevyy ()
Date: May 25, 2019 01:55PM

This new guy is a joke.
Very short,not much of a presence about him. Security team presence is woefully lacking. Security stands near the main office, laughing with students while kids are all over the upstairs hallways.

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