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Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: DIY guy ()
Date: November 09, 2018 02:23PM

I'm running gutter extensions out to the street, I want to make a hole in the curb. I see some other homes have it, but I'm guessing it was done 30+ years ago when the home was built.

Realistically, does the county care if I do this? No sidewalk to disturb or go under either, just like the pic below.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: jibjab ()
Date: November 09, 2018 02:26PM

If you are LGBTQ friendly no one in Fairfax Admin will mind. Maybe place a gay pride flag near to your incision points.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: LDKGF ()
Date: November 09, 2018 03:20PM

There's no way that the diameter of that pipe will take the water from a downspout in a heavy rain storm.
You'd need at least to 4" or 6" pipes to drain it properly and even with that your gutters will back up and overflow.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: DIY guy ()
Date: November 09, 2018 04:23PM

It's only for one side of the house, and it will be 6 inch right up until the curb. It will travel through 50+ feet of 6' corrugated pipe so It shouldn't be an issue, it's currently above ground and I've never seen it anywhere near max capacity.

My gutter guards are the bottleneck in a heavy down pour, my gutters are only 4' and I've never seen them over flow.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: barry cohen ()
Date: November 09, 2018 04:34PM

Given the things I've seen beaners do without ever contacting the county, I'd say this is an easy one.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: jjhdfkjwhf ()
Date: November 09, 2018 04:37PM

Just place a gay pride flag on your property and you can do whatever you like.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: khagschg ()
Date: November 09, 2018 04:40PM

^^oh, and you can perform this work while dressed in your skivvies ( without track marks ) and you will for sure be left alone yet admired.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Dan Tana ()
Date: November 09, 2018 05:06PM

khagschg Wrote:
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> ^^oh, and you can perform this work while dressed
> in your skivvies ( without track marks ) and you
> will for sure be left alone yet admired.


Bacon strips are fine.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Uuidd ()
Date: November 09, 2018 05:28PM

You will probably need VDoT's permission in addition to the County's. in most places VDoT owns the road, the curb and several inches to several feet inside the curb.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: DIY guy ()
Date: November 09, 2018 06:08PM

barry cohen Wrote:
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> Given the things I've seen beaners do without ever
> contacting the county, I'd say this is an easy
> one.


Pretty much what I was thinking. It's a very low traffic street so no one would even notice.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Old Man Winter ()
Date: November 09, 2018 06:21PM

Just remember that that drain pipe is not going to be below the frost line. Any moisture that gets in there is going to freeze and stay for the better part of the winter unless we get some decent warm days with lots of sun. As the snow/ice on your roof melts it will not be able to drain all the way to the street. You could potentially end up will ice filled downspouts and gutters that break free from your home.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: November 10, 2018 10:57PM

We had this done 25 years ago, by a licensed drainage contractor. And yes, a 2" pipe was plenty to handle downspouts from one side of the house AND sump pump outflow.

The bad news is, I've been informed by the same contractor that the County no longer approves permits for this.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: HC69C ()
Date: November 10, 2018 11:28PM

I don't have a pic but I've seen people just break the curb apart and lay down the pipe then use SacCrete to reform the curb around it. That concrete where you just add water.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Water Run Off ()
Date: November 11, 2018 12:08AM

Is one of the biggest homeowners issues with Fairfax County's Dept of Public Works I have been told, and the great majority of the time the county can NOT help you, I say put the pipe in and let it run off into the gutter. People do things on their property, the result more water run off on neighbors. Its a rolling hills area NOVA is and water run off can be total trouble for many

Personally I see no issues with the pic, looks good to me it all runs off somewhere, just remember it all runs off to the Chesapeake Bay and silt is not a help to the bay as well motor oil, and other illegal items. One thing Nova needs are water run off erosion engineers and companies that can provide answers and there are some good ones out there. Name Them !

Dixie not signed in

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: jfcee ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:40AM

(yes, if you do bad work and a person steps on it and they fall because the hole is weak: YES it's your fault)


drilling through the concrete is difficult and you need an expensive drill.

get a concrete saw (< $20 for a blade) and cut a hole 3" wider than the pipe on each side. maybe use a sledge to get the remaining.

lay the pipe - make sure it's 3" under the top of where the new concrete will be. lay a peice of rebar across.

pour concrete over it

you should be aware that curb might go deeper than you think. you also have to be aware if you spill water out and if that water "freezes the street" it will be YOUR FAULT and you'll have to plug the pipe. insure the area you work in will "actually and fully work"

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: x6wkc ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:42AM

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: mxyhw ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:43AM

carefully look at OP's image, you'll see it's likely prepared for a drain cover

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: dwdmf ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:44AM

you have to call 1-800-MISS-UTILITY. really.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: ujyph ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:45AM

it's winter. the soil will be frozen

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: vymwc ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:45AM

the germans will try to sell you an expensive concrete hole saw. they make them (actually - they import them from china now adays)

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: vexmc ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:47AM

there's ZERO CHANCE your drilling a hole with a german concrete hole saw

your 1" or less from the street and the hole saw needs 6" of clearance on the level to go horizontal

it won't fit

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Al Gore 2 ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:53AM

* make a pond in your front yard, embrace mother nature!

* make a grey water storage tank, don't waste your roof water !

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: mgvce ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:54AM

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try as you might, you'll never catch up with them !

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: ud3h7 ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:56AM

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fixya has a 1,993 step guide!

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: hnnhn ()
Date: November 11, 2018 10:59AM

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the contractor said there was a problem installing the drains but leaking would be "minimal"

this roof is sport for getting your feet wet after it rains, though

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: ng a hole through t ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:08AM

LDKGF Wrote:
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> There's no way that the diameter of that pipe will
> take the water from a downspout in a heavy rain
> storm.
> You'd need at least to 4" or 6" pipes to drain it
> properly and even with that your gutters will back
> up and overflow.

he didn't say he's doing that, and said he's following a model of neighbor's homes

that would mean a pipe with holes in it (protected with landscape fabric) that helps drain the yard - preventing "soggy soil" or pooling.

you don't have to run gutter water off under ground. you can do it above ground. there's a choice there.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: g4thbgdfd ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:09AM

ng a hole through t Wrote:
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> LDKGF Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There's no way that the diameter of that pipe
> will
> > take the water from a downspout in a heavy rain
> > storm.
> > You'd need at least to 4" or 6" pipes to drain
> it
> > properly and even with that your gutters will
> back
> > up and overflow.
>
> he didn't say he's doing that, and said he's
> following a model of neighbor's homes
>
> that would mean ...

it also could be a spill over pipe or sump pipe. i have no idea. he said he knew what he was doing! don't blame me.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: 6' corrugated pipe so It > shoul ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:16AM

DIY guy Wrote:
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> It's only for one side of the house, and it will
> be 6 inch right up until the curb. It will travel
> through 50+ feet of 6' corrugated pipe so It
> shouldn't be an issue, it's currently above ground
> and I've never seen it anywhere near max capacity.
>
>
> My gutter guards are the bottleneck in a heavy
> down pour, my gutters are only 4' and I've never
> seen them over flow.

spill over on a few "worst" days is ok to allow for, i suppose

you can't make a 4" hole in a curb and have 2" of concrete - it's likely not tall enough. you'd need the style of iron grating that actually replaces the concrete.

you could also make a spill-way. you don't have to run it under ground.

drainage_spillway_3-1024x732.png

just another choice

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: ueyn3 ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:17AM

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: mjpkl ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:19AM

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a spill way doesn't have to be large as the one shown above

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: bhkvc ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:25AM

if you do anything other than replace the curb with similar concrete (which may be impossible to find, because concrete is really specific to quarries it came from) ...

you may need to get "neighborhood committee approval" because it changes the street side appearance. (unless you used iron, which is always classy)

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: efctv ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:31AM

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there is more to getting masonry straight and final appearance than you would think. part of preparation is selecting mortars

and basically: every move made is final - simply setting a brick down cannot be done twice it must be set down exactly where it goes (unless you wipe out ALL the mortar get fresh mortar and try again). it can only be tapped for leveling it cannot be "slid" or moved (if it's not a rubble wall - if it's a fine wall, can't)

point there is: you can MAYBE pour homedepot high strength concrete and in a few years it will not "stick out" as a repair, but maybe not

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: AARPer ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:31AM

So you are going from 6" PVC to 2.5" PVC. Good luck with that.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: mne7j ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:32AM

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this is called "hiding the crime". it covers a badly hung door frame.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: djhhc ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:51AM

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an easy way might be to make a sidewalk with "pavers" (not brick, brick have holes)

you would NOT mortar them together (it'd just crack)

you'd have raise edges (runners) to keep the water in and barely noticeable slope to the middle (barely - because standing on an un-even surface that's icy you'll definitely fall)

you'd get a "way too much water" spill-off and a easy to make nifty walkway

what you would NOT get is relief for soggy soil (which would be what a white pvc pipe is for) - but if your running gutter water and don't have soggy soil issue then it would be fine

you'd still need "grading" (soil sloped away from home down to street) and couldn't do it unless it was already somewhat graded (soil from gutters to street is downhill)

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: eyw9u ()
Date: November 11, 2018 11:52AM

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: UgetWHATuPAY4 ()
Date: November 11, 2018 05:17PM

djhhc Wrote:
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>
> an easy way might be to make a sidewalk with
> "pavers" (not brick, brick have holes)
>
> you would NOT mortar them together (it'd just
> crack)
>
> you'd have raise edges (runners) to keep the water
> in and barely noticeable slope to the middle
> (barely - because standing on an un-even surface
> that's icy you'll definitely fall)
>
> you'd get a "way too much water" spill-off and a
> easy to make nifty walkway
>
> what you would NOT get is relief for soggy soil
> (which would be what a white pvc pipe is for) -
> but if your running gutter water and don't have
> soggy soil issue then it would be fine
>
> you'd still need "grading" (soil sloped away from
> home down to street) and couldn't do it unless it
> was already somewhat graded (soil from gutters to
> street is downhill)

If you are going to do this for the love of God hire someone who knows what they are doing. My sister in law is doing this and thinks she's a hardscaping expert. After spending a crap ton of money it just looks like.... well, crap.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: November 11, 2018 08:37PM

jfcee Wrote, in part:
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> you also have to be aware if you spill
> water out and if that water "freezes the street"
> it will be YOUR FAULT and you'll have to plug the
> pipe.

This. We had ours in place for 20+ years; next-door neighbor, good guy, finally got tired of having an ice rink at the foot of his driveway every winter, so we capped it and ran the sump to a dry well instead.

Downspouts alone are *probably* ok, since they won't be running when it's cold enough to freeze (mostly--clearly it *could* be right on the edge of freezing, but the sump was the real problem for us, since it runs all winter long).

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Civil guy ()
Date: November 12, 2018 04:57PM

You will be fine tapping the curb with a couple 4" pvc, plenty of capacity to handle a typical roof. That said, 2 things are going to be a problem......

First, figuring out how high to drill the hole to keep the water flowing in the gutter from back up into your pipe outlet. Too low and the above is a problem, too high and you risk cracking the curb. Good luck.

Second, and probably more importantly there is a 100% chance one of you docuhebag neighbors will report you to VDOT or to the County (if it's a private street). That is what people do around here. They're dicks. Then it will be a shit show getting out of the government violation hamster wheel.

Hire a soil consultant, test the soil to see if it will perc (probably not since you already have drainage issues), have an engineer design an infiltration trench or a dry well, have a professional install it.

You could also plant some willow trees where it's wet....

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: DIY guy ()
Date: November 12, 2018 06:09PM

It's going from a 4' downspout into a 6' corrugated pipe and out through a 4' PVC pipe. Not sure where the 2' came from.

I have an angled filter at the top of the corrugated pipe so that removes any chance of icing up. It will also be angled aggressively enough so no water will stay in the pipe and I'm not worried about water runoff getting in the pipe for that same reason. If there's that much water on the street, my pipe will be shooting out water anyways.

I'm not wasting money on a soil test, I'm sure they would tell me yes my soil sucks and I need a dry well. I can put one in myself, but I would do it If I had no other options. I'd rather just send that shit off to my local creek. Less digging and less water on my property.


I'm considering maybe a popup drain like - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVdp3Iw4byA

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: November 12, 2018 07:50PM

DIY guy Wrote:
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> It's going from a 4' downspout into a 6'
> corrugated pipe and out through a 4' PVC pipe. Not
> sure where the 2' came from.
>
> I have an angled filter at the top of the
> corrugated pipe so that removes any chance of
> icing up. It will also be angled aggressively
> enough so no water will stay in the pipe and I'm
> not worried about water runoff getting in the pipe
> for that same reason. If there's that much water
> on the street, my pipe will be shooting out water
> anyways.
>
> I'm not wasting money on a soil test, I'm sure
> they would tell me yes my soil sucks and I need a
> dry well. I can put one in myself, but I would do
> it If I had no other options. I'd rather just send
> that shit off to my local creek. Less digging and
> less water on my property.
>
>
> I'm considering maybe a popup drain like -
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVdp3Iw4byA

Hoping you mean 2"/4"/6" -- otherwise that's a hell of a lot of water!!!

Those popups tend to foul in my experience. We tried one before the dry well, and it was pretty useless. I suppose if you have enough elevation change that the water will be moving pretty good when it hits it might keep it clear; ours was a bit downhill, but not enough.

When we put the dry well in, we replaced the popup with a 9" grate, which seems to be working. Fingers crossed!

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Civil guy ()
Date: November 12, 2018 08:42PM

DIY guy Wrote:
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>
> I'm not wasting money on a soil test, I'm sure
> they would tell me yes my soil sucks and I need a
> dry well. I can put one in myself, but I would do
> it If I had no other options. I'd rather just send
> that shit off to my local creek. Less digging and
> less water on my property.


OK stupid. You got advice from a professional, but you have a better idea. Please build the dry well in soil that won't perc. Hopefully the runoff you are pumping underground will find a little bitty permeable layer and settle up against your foundation. "Jeez, I can't figure out why my basement is always wet....."

just to combat asswipes like you there are County code sections and developmnt regulations pertaining to re-directing runoff, but I'm sure you are all up to speed on Chapter 6 of the Fairfax County PFM. Dumbfuck.....

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: GloryHoleContractors ()
Date: November 12, 2018 08:52PM

Hello, my name is Benito Mussolini and I work for Glory Hole Contractors. We suggest your glory hole be located higher up than the curb, as it may be hard to articulate a male appendage into that hole.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: A River Runs Through It ()
Date: November 13, 2018 12:49PM

I believe it is illegal in FFX Co to capture rainwater. I guess because it could be breeding grounds for mosquitos.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: won't perc is for fools ()
Date: November 14, 2018 05:40PM

won't perc is for fools

it will perc when it's treated

(soil biology or metals content is what you can't get around for wells and pits)

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: i hate millenials ()
Date: November 14, 2018 05:43PM

> "I can't figure out why my basement is always wet"

it's been rather recent that french drains were used as a cure. it isn't that people didn't know where the water was - only a fool would think that

most of america went to the "sump pump" because of cost factors and lack of knowing if french drains could work (not to mention - no one to rescue them with heavy machinery if they needed to dig dig dig)

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: 4xnjv ()
Date: November 14, 2018 05:45PM

Fairfax County PFM

most hydrologic "equations" are guesswork

i hate guessers and guess work - especially when they "make it law"

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: 56uyrtfgf ()
Date: November 14, 2018 05:48PM


Fairfax County PFM

page 6665 says Gerry Connolly hires mostly non-eglish speaking hispanics, out of state contractors, for 30 years straight

mother fucker


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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: xn6vc ()
Date: November 14, 2018 05:49PM

Fairfax County PFM

the whole fucking thing IS STOLEN from another area - and fx co gov billed ME as if they "created it"

keep in mind "i'm not stupid"

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: kfyhj ()
Date: November 14, 2018 05:52PM

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/landdevelopment/sites/landdevelopment/files/assets/documents/pdf/pfm/chapter4.pdf

this fucker only says what charts an investigation should plot - it has no information on how or ANY DATA (which would be semi-permanent and pertinent)

i could arrest them on just that: making a manual that only says "you should use a different manual"

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Sir Charge and fine stein ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:01PM

Fairfax County PFM

"Surcharge Full Flow—Improper and Proper Design"

gerry never pays - you pay

that's all your going to know !

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: xudwd ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:04PM


VA and Fairfax are hiring illegal aliens to steal field manuals published that cost $2,000 a piece (water management and testing book professional series used across the USA)

THAT is what they are doing.


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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: 6nde4 ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:08PM

Adequacy of all natural watercourses, channels and pipes shall be verified in accordance with the channel protection and flood protection requirements of Chapter 124 of the County Code and the following

OH. that's why we have 18 iphone emergeny alerts for "flash flood" in the middle of the night when it's hardly raining! now i get it.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: m6hkw ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:10PM

> Other scientifically valid methods, which show no adverse impact regarding erosion

this gov manual prevents water erosion and lowers the rise of the ocean - truly yours - Obama

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: h4uck ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:11PM

> In cases where the downstream facilities are inadequate


Wait a fucking minute buster. you said a few paragraphs above they weren't allowed to be "inadequate"


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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: vftju ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:12PM

> Provide sufficient information to demonstrate that (i) there will be no flooding of existing dwellings

... is going to "demonstrate" mother nature to prevent flooding. how do you propose to mimic millions of gallons of rambling water? aparently flood victims are yet to see government ever do this.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: 1950 solution ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:14PM

These drains never last. That pvc will be broken in a year maybe two. It will get clogged or filled with dirt - all this to pump your fast moving runoff into the sewer? why? Be easier to build a drywell and let the runoff leach into the yard. Much better for the environment and cheaper.

Where did you get this 1950 solution from? Do you burn your garbage too?

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: vftju ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:15PM

holy crap if your going to steal a storm drainage manual, at least steal a good one! this one is full anything except ways and means.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: CORRECTION ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:29PM

the manual does contain a few (ugh) estimative equations, but none the less is not totally void of use

It says C14 concrete can be used. However "quickcrete" says it has c14 and doesn't specify aggregate

the problem with that is cheap riverbed aggregate corrodes in contact with sewer water

homedepot in fairfax area has ONLY cheap riverbed aggregate concrete. though "gov has access to anything it wants", i'm sure

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: CORRECTION ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:30PM

the estimate equations practically guarantee occasional failure. read between the lines

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: bgtkm ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:32PM

(a legit law, there is none, would read something like "GPM 100 year period")

you can fool some.

if your trying to fool educated people who've read billions of lines of equations ... you aren't going to find lapses as easy to pass off

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: mpjp6 ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:41PM

SUMMARY: i'm not done looking at it but ...

like i said to start with, Fairfax County PFM, it's not "the real" water management guide with chemistry tests and water facility diagrams and such

it's a remake of a small part of the "real deal" books

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: wuu9e ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:42PM

Ditches shall be reinforced with 6 inch x 6 inch, No. 6 welded wire fabric. The welded wire fabric and reinforcing steel, when required, shall conform to the current VDOT Road and Bridge Specifications.

told you so 100 posts ago

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: em6bw ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:42PM

torm sewer appurtenances shall be designed for the runoff generated by the 10-year frequency storm as determined by the methods discussed in

did he say 10 or 100 ?

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: xyutk ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:46PM

ADT

crap, used acronym "adt" without defining it

that's means i'll have to buy the whole companion guide !!

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: xpp4h ()
Date: November 14, 2018 06:51PM

6-1111.5 Manholes and drop inlets shall be constructed IN INDIA

is it legal to require imports? come again?

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: stolen manual improvement ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:05PM

0915-jlc-cev-illo1png.jpg

it's customary to include graphs of important terms

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: t4umd ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:07PM

gerry says contractors, on SFD (homes), can use landscape gardens to allot for undue drainage

what makes me think $$$ this is a bullshit rule ?

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: pkgwc ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:08PM

Design Guidelines for Vegetated Swale Planting Plans

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: IT GETS BETTER ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:08PM

vegetable roof components ...

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: xwelk ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:10PM

FLOODPLAIN GUIDELINES and formula


you don't fool me. political friends with land not being used are getting tax breaks as "wet lands" while their land matures in value

AS IF calculation. AS IF


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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: tregf ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:22PM

It is desirable that the major system provide drainage relief such that no buildings will be flooded with a 100-year design flow

(it's called "self conflicting")

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: 3jwde ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:24PM

Dams regulated by the County shall be designed by a Professional Engineer licensed in Virginia with experience and expertise in the fields of hydrology, hydraulics and geotechnical engineering.

EXCUSE ME. ONE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER FOR WHICH DAMN?

I DON'T THINK SO.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: ku4fu ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:25PM

"dams regulated by the County"

i'm unsure Virginia lent, in the charter of fairfax, the authority to regulate "dams" as necessary

i think that's quite a stretch

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: 7u66v ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:33PM

In some cases, particularly if the outlet conduit is set at a steep slope, full flow will not occur in the pipe conduit and control may occur at the junction between the outlet conduit and the riser. Calculation of a rating curve with the control at this location can be estimated by assuming orifice flow into the outlet conduit and using the orifice equation or by using FHWA inlet control nomographs


(they will give you estimate equations and then more cases of why they don't work and little or nothing of when they do work. this is called: they aren't publishing what they are using to you)

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: ve4cm ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:35PM

6-1604.2 Vegetated Emergency Spillways

I have one in my yard! Now I'm excited!

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: u7utrgt ()
Date: November 14, 2018 07:53PM

drainage_spillway_3-1024x732.png

according to what i read, a bitch this size of high speed storm run-off isn't too close to these homes - because it's in zone III

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: ptdxu ()
Date: November 14, 2018 08:02PM

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/landdevelopment/sites/landdevelopment/files/assets/documents/pdf/publications/pool.pdf

filename-img-0366-jpg.jpg

BUT since it's over 2 ft deep and in a yard: you have to follow all the pool rules. i don't see any lights, handrails ..

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Fairfax County PFM ()
Date: November 15, 2018 02:49PM

Fairfax County PFM

there's something in the manual i didn't mention that pisses off people like me:

* it says if the county is "incorrect" on total water flow that they will get taxpayer funding and fix it forthwith, it's a "simple mistakes are not penalty" rule for gov

* it says a citizen cannot start work w/o gov approval and will be penalized for "making a mistake" and use their OWN money to fix it

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: jo3-w ()
Date: November 17, 2018 07:15PM

Most FFX Co roads are owned and maintained by VDOT. VDOT technically requires a permit to alter the curb. The neighbor up the street from me was fined $1,500 when he had some Hispanics cut out the curb to put in a driveway without a VDOT permit.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Losy ()
Date: January 11, 2020 08:18AM

I think no one will be against you if you make a small hole in the border, especially if the neighbors are already made. The main one to look nice and well, not to confuse the passers-by. So you can try, if you are not sure you can contact the neighbors and you will see what they say. Be careful not to give the border completely, if something you can easily back it up. For this you will also need to seal this concrete, in order to be more resistant. Here you can read more about this, it is an article about how sealing concrete floors. I hope it helps you.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: er4gtgrewe2 ()
Date: January 12, 2020 03:31PM

Greybeard Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> We had this done 25 years ago, by a licensed
> drainage contractor. And yes, a 2" pipe was plenty
> to handle downspouts from one side of the house
> AND sump pump outflow.
>
> The bad news is, I've been informed by the same
> contractor that the County no longer approves
> permits for this.

SHUT THE FUCK UP - 25 YEARS AGO A "DRAINAGE LICENSE" WAS A PLUMBING LICENSE THEY WERE CALLED "PLUMBERS"

FAIRFAX COUNTY POLITICIANS BEGAN USING ILLEGAL ALIENS IN THEIR BUSINESSES - which they promoted using government (no need now, they've turned government into a huge contracting business)

THE LAW WAS (AND STILL IS) THAT ONLY TRAINED LICENSED PERSONS WORK ON WATER AND ELECTRICITY AND GAS AND STRUCTURAL BUILDS

THAT IF A "HELPER" DID WORK THE LICENSED CONTRATOR MUST BE OVER THAT PERSONS SHOULDER WATCHING THEM AS IF THEY THEMSELVES HAD DONE THE WORK

(FX CO GOV usurped these laws by have 1 qualified person "affiliated with" the company who signed for work they never ispected, and fx co gov inspectors - who became hindu inspectors - took bribes - never inspected anything a politician family business did)

SUMMARY: THEY USED ILLEGAL ALIENS AT THE TIME (1990'S) TO DO WORK ONLY CERTIFIED PERSONS WERE ALLOWED TO DO. IT WAS COMPLETELY ILLEGAL IN LAW AND EVEN RADIO ADVERTISED IT WAS ILLEGAL. THEY DID IT TO RAPE MONEY FROM HARD WORKING TAXPAYERS - JUST ANOTHER GOVERNMENT WORKER RUN RIP-OFF.

SUMMARY: FAIRFAX COUNTY IS STILL BUILDING WITHOUT USING CERTIFIED PERSONS AND ALLOWING LOCAL BUSINESSES TO USE ILLEGAL ALIENS TO DO CERTIFIED WORK WITHOUT CERTS. THEY ARE STILL FAR OUTSIDE OF FIDUCIARY DUTY

and when houses catch on fire, when political families vacation in mexico, when citizens rest un-hired: that's where it shows

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: er4gtgrewe2 ()
Date: January 12, 2020 03:36PM

that being said: if you owned a home straight out (few did) and didn't mind sacrificing your possiblity of being insured (if you were an idiot) it was legal to have an untrained person do work in your home - although regretted in many cases

otherwise (ie if the bank held the note or it was an apartment building) it was STILL ILLEGAL not even your choice

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Village Asshole ()
Date: January 12, 2020 03:52PM

Go ahead and bore as many holes as you want in the curb and gutter, and when I see the destruction of city, county, or state property, I will turn you in.

Besides the violations of the law, the fines and possible jail time, you will be required to pay for the replacement of the damaged concrete.

You will be looking at thousands of dollars.

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Re: Drilling a hole through the curb in my front yard
Posted by: Calculate slope u slope! ()
Date: January 14, 2020 06:33AM

Love it when some moron “just wants to connect a pipe thru concrete”
You don’t want corrugated bc of standing water.
You need a 0.25” drop every 4 ft minimum or you will have standing water in the pipe and it will freeze and break.
You must be in IT

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