HomeFairfax General ForumArrest/Ticket SearchWiki newPictures/VideosChatArticlesLinksAbout
Fairfax County General :  Fairfax Underground fairfax underground logo
Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting.
FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Yeager ()
Date: September 28, 2018 10:48PM

I had to teach my kids the pledge of allegiance because the socialist teachers at FCPS don't think it's important. I'm pulling them out, and registering them at The Langley School. FCPS HATES AMERICA>

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: forum list ()
Date: September 28, 2018 11:26PM

We made it into the 20th century without having a Pledge. During that time we

1) won our independence from Great Britain
2) fought an undeclared naval war with France
3) defeated the Barbary pirates in Tripoli
4) survived a second war with Great Britain
5) launched a successful naval campaign against the Barbary pirates
6) defeated Mexico in a war where we captured Mexico city
7) fought a bloody civil war
8) conquered most of the continent in a war against the American indians
9) defeated Spain in a war
10) constructed railroads that spanned the continent
11) became an industrial powerhouse
12) joined the Entente powers in beating Imperial Germany
13) integrated millions of immigrants
14) kicked butt in a few Olympics
15) extended the franchise to free whites, male and female without property qualifications

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Francis Bellamy... ()
Date: September 29, 2018 08:26AM

The Pledge was written by a socialist minister for use in celebrating Columbus Day 1892 and in hopes of helping to heal the then still open wounds of the Civil War.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: George Fucking Washington ()
Date: September 29, 2018 08:36AM

The pledge uses the word "God" which is a violation of separation of church and state.
Saying the pledge of allegiance is quite anti-American indeed!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: No gods, no masters ()
Date: September 29, 2018 09:02AM

The inappropriate words were added during the Red Scare of the 1950's at the urging of a DC preacher and the religious Knights of Columbus. This has effectively denied to millions the right to join in what once was and still ought to be a simple patriotic exercise.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Leftist.Gorilla ()
Date: September 29, 2018 09:04AM

Forced patriotism and forced nationalism is not really patriotism or nationalism. We don't need to honor our country before starting the school day or kickoff a football game or other sporting event. If saying the pledge before school is so important why don't colleges and universities require it?

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Flag down on the play... ()
Date: September 29, 2018 09:16AM

They can't. A requirement of those deemed to be adults would be struck down in a matter of seconds.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: wxj6v ()
Date: September 29, 2018 10:48AM

If the only way you can get a kid to believe something is to indoctrinate them from a young age, the idea you are tying to make them believe probably does not have much worth.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Diogenes ()
Date: September 29, 2018 11:05AM

The foundation of every state is the education of its youth. Education is of course very different from indoctrination, but instruction concerning a set of common national values is far more the former than the latter.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Thug.Niggah ()
Date: September 29, 2018 12:11PM

Sorry, I place the United States way above any God, religion or spirituality...

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: September 29, 2018 01:44PM

I really wonder how many people would put their kids in private schools if vouchers were available to all. This would be a better way of evaluating the FCPS since the elections have been highjacked by the teacher's union and Moon's marauders.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: George Fucking Washington ()
Date: September 29, 2018 05:48PM

We have to do what the government tells us to do. That is the only way we can truly be free.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Leftist.Gorilla ()
Date: September 29, 2018 06:45PM

George Fucking Washington Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> We have to do what the government tells us to do.
> That is the only way we can truly be free.

Except the British government. We don't have to do what the Britishow government tells us to do...

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Maxine Greene ()
Date: September 29, 2018 09:36PM

wxj6v Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If the only way you can get a kid to believe
> something is to indoctrinate them from a young
> age, the idea you are tying to make them believe
> probably does not have much worth.


You mean like progressive liberalism.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: It would suck to be you, commie. ()
Date: September 29, 2018 09:49PM

George Fucking Washington Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The pledge uses the word "God" which is a
> violation of separation of church and state.
> Saying the pledge of allegiance is quite
> anti-American indeed!




You sound like a complete pussy.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Free rides for commies ()
Date: September 29, 2018 10:30PM

.
Attachments:
1532159967196.gif

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: September 30, 2018 12:21AM

Inquisitive One Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I really wonder how many people would put their
> kids in private schools if vouchers were available
> to all. This would be a better way of evaluating
> the FCPS since the elections have been highjacked
> by the teacher's union and Moon's marauders.

It would be a better way of killing off the public school system while subsidizing the private education of wealthy residents.

I know I am getting to be a broken record on this but if you do not like the political leanings of FCPS, VOTE. It takes a pathetically small number of votes to win a school board seat in this county. Donald Trump got 150,000 votes in Fairfax County in 2016. The top at large candidate in the 2015 school board election got fewer than 85,000 votes.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Fake news fcps ()
Date: September 30, 2018 01:25AM

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulations-and-notices/student-rights-and-responsibilities/important-topics

"Students are expected to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and to observe one minute of silence each day, unless the student or his or her parent objects to participation in such exercises. Nonparticipating students are expected to sit quietly, or to stand silently, and to refrain from engaging in any disruptive or distracting activity. A student’s decision to participate or not to participate should be respected."

The idea that students aren't being taught the Pledge of Allegiance is simply a lie. They are actively being taught it, and are expected to recite it, or if they choose not to participate, to not be disruptive to students who do.

Fake news. Gentlemen and ladies, you're feeding a troll.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Baum ()
Date: September 30, 2018 03:01AM

Fake news fcps Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulatio
> ns-and-notices/student-rights-and-responsibilities
> /important-topics
>
> "Students are expected to recite the Pledge of
> Allegiance and to observe one minute of silence
> each day, unless the student or his or her parent
> objects to participation in such exercises.
> Nonparticipating students are expected to sit
> quietly, or to stand silently, and to refrain from
> engaging in any disruptive or distracting
> activity. A student’s decision to participate
> or not to participate should be respected."
>
> The idea that students aren't being taught the
> Pledge of Allegiance is simply a lie. They are
> actively being taught it, and are expected to
> recite it, or if they choose not to participate,
> to not be disruptive to students who do.
>
> Fake news. Gentlemen and ladies, you're feeding a
> troll.


That may be official fcps policy, but it doesn’t mean it’s being followed uniformly. I suspect there are a few schools that choose to not abide by this protocol. Considering how dysfunctional fcps is, it’s conceivable that this is going on and administration is doing nothing about it.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Fake news fcps ()
Date: September 30, 2018 03:47AM

Baum Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Fake news fcps Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulatio
>
> >
> ns-and-notices/student-rights-and-responsibilities
>
> > /important-topics
> >
> > "Students are expected to recite the Pledge of
> > Allegiance and to observe one minute of silence
> > each day, unless the student or his or her
> parent
> > objects to participation in such exercises.
> > Nonparticipating students are expected to sit
> > quietly, or to stand silently, and to refrain
> from
> > engaging in any disruptive or distracting
> > activity. A student’s decision to
> participate
> > or not to participate should be respected."
> >
> > The idea that students aren't being taught the
> > Pledge of Allegiance is simply a lie. They are
> > actively being taught it, and are expected to
> > recite it, or if they choose not to
> participate,
> > to not be disruptive to students who do.
> >
> > Fake news. Gentlemen and ladies, you're feeding
> a
> > troll.
>
>
> That may be official fcps policy, but it doesn’t
> mean it’s being followed uniformly. I suspect
> there are a few schools that choose to not abide
> by this protocol. Considering how dysfunctional
> fcps is, it’s conceivable that this is going on
> and administration is doing nothing about it.

"conceivable" isn't fact. Just about anything can be considered "conceivable". Name of school. Name of teacher, rebuttals by administrators. These details matter. Otherwise, this is just another troll post.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Indiana Jones ()
Date: September 30, 2018 07:33AM

Inquisitive One Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I really wonder how many people would put their
> kids in private schools if vouchers were available
> to all. This would be a better way of evaluating
> the FCPS since the elections have been highjacked
> by the teacher's union and Moon's marauders.

The fact that 'voucher systems' have so consistently failed where they have been tried ought to give you a clue. Oh, the promoters promise the moon alright, but somehow things never quite turn out the way they said they would. Another thing that fails all the time is right-wing propaganda which you seem to have been dipping into pretty consistently here. Not really surprising for an ever-foundering low-IQ poster such as yourself of course.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Right-wing = Crooks and Liars ()
Date: September 30, 2018 07:41AM

Baum Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> That may be official fcps policy, but it doesn’t
> mean it’s being followed uniformly. I suspect
> there are a few schools that choose to not abide
> by this protocol. Considering how dysfunctional
> fcps is, it’s conceivable that this is going on
> and administration is doing nothing about it.

FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL

The thread premise is a total and deliberate fraud. Like so much else that the absurdist right-wing proclaims.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Nope. ()
Date: September 30, 2018 12:26PM

Baum Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Fake news fcps Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulatio
>
> >
> ns-and-notices/student-rights-and-responsibilities
>
> > /important-topics
> >
> > "Students are expected to recite the Pledge of
> > Allegiance and to observe one minute of silence
> > each day, unless the student or his or her
> parent
> > objects to participation in such exercises.
> > Nonparticipating students are expected to sit
> > quietly, or to stand silently, and to refrain
> from
> > engaging in any disruptive or distracting
> > activity. A student’s decision to
> participate
> > or not to participate should be respected."
> >
> > The idea that students aren't being taught the
> > Pledge of Allegiance is simply a lie. They are
> > actively being taught it, and are expected to
> > recite it, or if they choose not to
> participate,
> > to not be disruptive to students who do.
> >
> > Fake news. Gentlemen and ladies, you're feeding
> a
> > troll.
>
>
> That may be official fcps policy, but it doesn’t
> mean it’s being followed uniformly. I suspect
> there are a few schools that choose to not abide
> by this protocol. Considering how dysfunctional
> fcps is, it’s conceivable that this is going on
> and administration is doing nothing about it.

I'm a teacher in FCPS and so are most of my friends. I've lived in Fairfax Co for close to 20 years and my kids attend FCPS (different schools). I've never heard of a school that does not do the pledge every morning. Name one school you've personally observed, or even heard about, that does not do this. Just one.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Rumor mill ()
Date: September 30, 2018 12:36PM

Nope. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Baum Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fake news fcps Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> >
> https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulatio
>
> >
> > >
> >
> ns-and-notices/student-rights-and-responsibilities
>
> >
> > > /important-topics
> > >
> > > "Students are expected to recite the Pledge
> of
> > > Allegiance and to observe one minute of
> silence
> > > each day, unless the student or his or her
> > parent
> > > objects to participation in such exercises.
> > > Nonparticipating students are expected to sit
> > > quietly, or to stand silently, and to refrain
> > from
> > > engaging in any disruptive or distracting
> > > activity. A student’s decision to
> > participate
> > > or not to participate should be respected."
> > >
> > > The idea that students aren't being taught
> the
> > > Pledge of Allegiance is simply a lie. They
> are
> > > actively being taught it, and are expected to
> > > recite it, or if they choose not to
> > participate,
> > > to not be disruptive to students who do.
> > >
> > > Fake news. Gentlemen and ladies, you're
> feeding
> > a
> > > troll.
> >
> >
> > That may be official fcps policy, but it
> doesn’t
> > mean it’s being followed uniformly. I suspect
> > there are a few schools that choose to not
> abide
> > by this protocol. Considering how dysfunctional
> > fcps is, it’s conceivable that this is going
> on
> > and administration is doing nothing about it.
>
> I'm a teacher in FCPS and so are most of my
> friends. I've lived in Fairfax Co for close to 20
> years and my kids attend FCPS (different schools).
> I've never heard of a school that does not do the
> pledge every morning. Name one school you've
> personally observed, or even heard about, that
> does not do this. Just one.


I have heard sleepy hollow elementary does not encourage the Hispanic kids to speak English and lets them wave around the flags of whatever 3rd world cesspool they come from as opposed to the US flag.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Nope. ()
Date: September 30, 2018 12:49PM

Rumor mill Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nope. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Baum Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fake news fcps Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulatio
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ns-and-notices/student-rights-and-responsibilities
>
> >
> > >
> > > > /important-topics
> > > >
> > > > "Students are expected to recite the Pledge
> > of
> > > > Allegiance and to observe one minute of
> > silence
> > > > each day, unless the student or his or her
> > > parent
> > > > objects to participation in such exercises.
>
> > > > Nonparticipating students are expected to
> sit
> > > > quietly, or to stand silently, and to
> refrain
> > > from
> > > > engaging in any disruptive or distracting
> > > > activity. A student’s decision to
> > > participate
> > > > or not to participate should be respected."
> > > >
> > > > The idea that students aren't being taught
> > the
> > > > Pledge of Allegiance is simply a lie. They
> > are
> > > > actively being taught it, and are expected
> to
> > > > recite it, or if they choose not to
> > > participate,
> > > > to not be disruptive to students who do.
> > > >
> > > > Fake news. Gentlemen and ladies, you're
> > feeding
> > > a
> > > > troll.
> > >
> > >
> > > That may be official fcps policy, but it
> > doesn’t
> > > mean it’s being followed uniformly. I
> suspect
> > > there are a few schools that choose to not
> > abide
> > > by this protocol. Considering how
> dysfunctional
> > > fcps is, it’s conceivable that this is
> going
> > on
> > > and administration is doing nothing about it.
> >
> > I'm a teacher in FCPS and so are most of my
> > friends. I've lived in Fairfax Co for close to
> 20
> > years and my kids attend FCPS (different
> schools).
> > I've never heard of a school that does not do
> the
> > pledge every morning. Name one school you've
> > personally observed, or even heard about, that
> > does not do this. Just one.
>
>
> I have heard sleepy hollow elementary does not
> encourage the Hispanic kids to speak English and
> lets them wave around the flags of whatever 3rd
> world cesspool they come from as opposed to the US
> flag.


This is incorrect. If you look on their website, there is a photo of the students standing to say the pledge (https://sleepyhollowes.fcps.edu/about). It's a Title I school that has many speakers of other languages, not just Spanish. The ESOL program is solid there and their ratings are a lot better than other schools in the area. Do some of the kids speak Spanish, or their other native languages, with their peers? Sure, but that happens at just about every other school in FCPS. It's very unlikely a teacher or school administrator would allow a student to wave anything around, including a flag from any country, during the school day.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: vmbuc ()
Date: September 30, 2018 12:59PM

Leftist.Gorilla Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Forced patriotism and forced nationalism is not
> really patriotism or nationalism. We don't need to
> honor our country before starting the school day
> or kickoff a football game or other sporting
> event. If saying the pledge before school is so
> important why don't colleges and universities
> require it?


WITH LEAD

you are right

you are with us or hanged for treason against us


WITH LEAD

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: FCPS curriculum ()
Date: September 30, 2018 01:38PM

I pledge allegiance, to the flag,
of the Ideal Socialist Paradise of Venezuela,
and to Kim jong-Un, and Castro, too
Socialist heroes, who hate God
and hate free people
no liberty and justice for none.


Students will then proceed to the following classes:

White people are bad.
Celebrate gay or flunk for the year.
All religions except Islam and wicca are bad.
America is bad.
Between these classes, there will be sessions sponsored by the DNC to indoctrinate students in DNC ideals.
Student who do not comply will be sent to reeducation camps.
Classes in Mathematics, English, Foreign Languages, History and the Sciences will be discontinued. All of those subjects are oppressive.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Yiddish ()
Date: September 30, 2018 03:19PM

So how are things in Moscow troll?

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: Leftist.Gorilla ()
Date: September 30, 2018 09:28PM

Rumor mill Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nope. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Baum Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fake news fcps Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/policies-regulatio
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ns-and-notices/student-rights-and-responsibilities
>
> >
> > >
> > > > /important-topics
> > > >
> > > > "Students are expected to recite the Pledge
> > of
> > > > Allegiance and to observe one minute of
> > silence
> > > > each day, unless the student or his or her
> > > parent
> > > > objects to participation in such exercises.
>
> > > > Nonparticipating students are expected to
> sit
> > > > quietly, or to stand silently, and to
> refrain
> > > from
> > > > engaging in any disruptive or distracting
> > > > activity. A student’s decision to
> > > participate
> > > > or not to participate should be respected."
> > > >
> > > > The idea that students aren't being taught
> > the
> > > > Pledge of Allegiance is simply a lie. They
> > are
> > > > actively being taught it, and are expected
> to
> > > > recite it, or if they choose not to
> > > participate,
> > > > to not be disruptive to students who do.
> > > >
> > > > Fake news. Gentlemen and ladies, you're
> > feeding
> > > a
> > > > troll.
> > >
> > >
> > > That may be official fcps policy, but it
> > doesn’t
> > > mean it’s being followed uniformly. I
> suspect
> > > there are a few schools that choose to not
> > abide
> > > by this protocol. Considering how
> dysfunctional
> > > fcps is, it’s conceivable that this is
> going
> > on
> > > and administration is doing nothing about it.
> >
> > I'm a teacher in FCPS and so are most of my
> > friends. I've lived in Fairfax Co for close to
> 20
> > years and my kids attend FCPS (different
> schools).
> > I've never heard of a school that does not do
> the
> > pledge every morning. Name one school you've
> > personally observed, or even heard about, that
> > does not do this. Just one.
>
>
> I have heard sleepy hollow elementary does not
> encourage the Hispanic kids to speak English and
> lets them wave around the flags of whatever 3rd
> world cesspool they come from as opposed to the US
> flag.

I'm sure this will come as a shock to you to learn there are people who live in this country who are not citizens of this country. Many of them are here illegally and a small minority are here legally. Regardless, why should someone raise the flag of the country they are living in and or say the pledge if they are not citizens?

I spent time in schools in Germany and Italy growing up. I never said any pledge to those countries or sang their anthems...that's not what a good American does.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: FCPS is not longer teaching students the pledge of allegiance
Posted by: GOP is Party of TEEN GANG RAPE ()
Date: September 30, 2018 10:11PM

We are a Christian family and I forbid my children from pledging fealty to anyone or any object (flag) other the God and The Lord Jesus. The Bible tells us not to worship false idols and pledging to a flag is a sin. Also its a stupid chant written by a Socialist. In elementary school one of my son's teachers complained my son wouldnt chant the promise to worship the flag and I straightened her out in a meeting with the Principal.

Options: ReplyQuote


Your Name: 
Your Email (Optional): 
Subject: 
Attach a file
  • No file can be larger than 75 MB
  • All files together cannot be larger than 300 MB
  • 30 more file(s) can be attached to this message
Spam prevention:
Please, enter the code that you see below in the input field. This is for blocking bots that try to post this form automatically.
 **          *******         **  ********    *******  
 **    **   **     **        **  **     **  **     ** 
 **    **   **               **  **     **         ** 
 **    **   ********         **  ********    *******  
 *********  **     **  **    **  **     **         ** 
       **   **     **  **    **  **     **  **     ** 
       **    *******    ******   ********    *******  
This forum powered by Phorum.