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Salvia divinorum
Posted by: looking around ()
Date: January 24, 2010 05:06PM

Anyone know where to get some Salvia around Manassas?

Thanks

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: sorry ()
Date: January 24, 2010 05:07PM

looking around Wrote:
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> Anyone know where to get some Salvia around
> Manassas?
>
> Thanks


illegal in Virgina as of July 1st of last year. DC?

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Master of Puppets ()
Date: January 24, 2010 05:07PM

Nice try :)

I believe it is illegal in Virginia.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: looking around ()
Date: January 24, 2010 05:10PM

really? I thought the bill was still stuck in limbo

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: trogdor! ()
Date: January 24, 2010 06:29PM

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+54.1-3446

ยง 54.1-3446. Schedule I.

The controlled substances listed in this section are included in Schedule I:

Salvinorin A;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvinorin_A

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: NotInVA ()
Date: January 24, 2010 06:56PM

Go to DC, B&K bookstore. Great prices too.

Just be very careful with the stuff. When your mind leave thes the body you your body can hurt people or itself. You really need a sitter when using higher doses.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: i mean ()
Date: January 24, 2010 07:24PM

B&K News Stand. In Adams Morgan

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 24, 2010 07:27PM

i mean Wrote:
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> B&K News Stand. In Adams Morgan


Don't they have the roped off porn section?

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 24, 2010 08:19PM

While a spotter would be a good idea, especially if it's your first time, it's highly unlikely that you're going to hurt anyone while you are under the influence of Salvia.

Your body kind of goes limp and you may even go unconscious. You could hurt yourself if you fell and hit your head, though... Make sure you are sitting down.

NotInVA Wrote:
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> Go to DC, B&K bookstore. Great prices too.
>
> Just be very careful with the stuff. When your
> mind leave thes the body you your body can hurt
> people or itself. You really need a sitter when
> using higher doses.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: NotInVA ()
Date: January 24, 2010 09:26PM

They do have a porn section! You have to pay a dollar to browse though.

As far as the spotter for the other person who replied, are you talking about regular leaf or extract? If you use enough strong extract the correct way, you will be in a different universe. If someone chooses to fight it instead of relaxing, they could freak out and hurt themselves or someone else. This video is a good example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvKtA-plQPI

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 24, 2010 09:47PM

NotInVA Wrote:
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> As far as the spotter for the other person who
> replied, are you talking about regular leaf or
> extract?

Extract...

> If someone chooses to fight it instead of
> relaxing, they could freak out and hurt themselves
> or someone else.

That is true... It is also true that if you fight it, instead of relaxing, a meteorite could hit your house.

> This video is a good example:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvKtA-plQPI

Interesting video... I wish it showed more of him instead of his chair. I would bet that, for most of the time he was off-camera, he was on the floor.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Date: January 25, 2010 02:36AM

Don't downplay this one Tuttle.
Research this on youtube and you will see the
proof that this type of reaction is highly COMMON.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Kenny_Powers ()
Date: January 25, 2010 05:16AM

NotInVA Wrote:
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> Go to DC, B&K bookstore. Great prices too.
>
> Just be very careful with the stuff. When your
> mind leave thes the body you your body can hurt
> people or itself. You really need a sitter when
> using higher doses.


yea, really not something to do while driving. You are pretty much put into a state of retardation for about 10-15 minutes. and it is INTENSE. Theres better drugs out there in my opinion, especially since its no longer legal.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 25, 2010 04:28PM

While his extreme reaction was shocking, I saw no one get hurt... I didn't even see anything get broken.

I've seen MUCH worse reactions to alcohol...

=Highly NOT recommended= Wrote:
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> Don't downplay this one Tuttle.
> Research this on youtube and you will see the
> proof that this type of reaction is highly COMMON.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: NotInVA ()
Date: January 25, 2010 05:26PM

The real issue is when someone gets so scared (because they feel that something is seriously wrong and they might be dying), they become unpredictable. Think about a person who's drowning and you get the picture. Not everyone gets scared and reacts negatively. It depends on the dosage and the person.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 25, 2010 05:47PM

I understand the unpredictability of a desperately scared person... That is part of the reason I didn't say that harming someone was impossible.

The main point I was trying to make was that, while under the influence of Salvia, your motor functions become extremely impaired. If you manage to stay conscious, you will have a very difficult time talking and an even more difficult time getting up and moving around.

Assuming the person is smart enough not to do this while operating machinery, the chances of them actually hurting someone are very slim. As I said before, the most likely scenario of someone getting hurt would be if they fell and knocked their head on something. The chance of someone getting really frightened, however, is rather large.

The guy in the video you presented probably scared the shit out of his friends... But it seemed like he was on the ground for most of the time... Not exactly a dangerous position..

Even though he was much bigger than his female friend, I would bet he would have an extremely hard time actually hurting her while in that state.

Again, he didn't even break anything.

Have you ever tried it, NotInVA?

NotInVA Wrote:
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> The real issue is when someone gets so scared
> (because they feel that something is seriously
> wrong and they might be dying), they become
> unpredictable. Think about a person who's
> drowning and you get the picture. Not everyone
> gets scared and reacts negatively. It depends on
> the dosage and the person.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 25, 2010 07:13PM

Harry, I'm starting to worry about your vast experience with this subject....

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: tsk...tsk...tsk... ()
Date: January 25, 2010 07:16PM

eesh, I'm starting to worry about your vast knowledge of strange fetishes and experiences with little boys...




eesh Wrote:
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> Harry, I'm starting to worry about your vast
> experience with this subject....

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 25, 2010 07:21PM

I have been known to go on a vision quest or two in my day...

eesh Wrote:
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> Harry, I'm starting to worry about your vast
> experience with this subject....

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: eeshy loves the kids! ()
Date: January 25, 2010 07:23PM

eesh has been known to go on a little boy quest every so often...



Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> I have been known to go on a vision quest or two
> in my day...
>
> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Harry, I'm starting to worry about your vast
> > experience with this subject....

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 25, 2010 07:26PM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> I have been known to go on a vision quest or two
> in my day...


Did you see anything special?


.

Blessed are the murderous.
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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 25, 2010 08:57PM

I've had some invaluable experiences. Not all of them were what I'd describe as "pleasant", but I wouldn't trade any of them...

eesh Wrote:
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> Did you see anything special?

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 25, 2010 09:03PM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> I've had some invaluable experiences. Not all of
> them were what I'd describe as "pleasant", but I
> wouldn't trade any of them...
>



Horrible Salvia Trip - More amazing video clips are a click away

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: NotInVA ()
Date: January 26, 2010 02:45AM

I tried some regular leaf, got no effect, tried some 40X got no effect, so then I did a whole bunch of 40X. I felt that I had two bodies at the same time. My astral body was trying to drag my physical body and throw it out the window. I couldn't get the thought of flying out of my head. Yeah it scared the shit out of me.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Kenny_Powers ()
Date: January 26, 2010 04:46AM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> I have been known to go on a vision quest or two
> in my day...
>
> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Harry, I'm starting to worry about your vast
> > experience with this subject....


are you John Locke in real life?

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: January 26, 2010 10:19PM

my experience with this stuff is that it puts you in a different world. i felt as if i were locked outside and stuck to the ground. almost like i was trapped in an overhead compartment in an airplane and no matter how hard i tried i couldnt get inside. your spotters, become dark beings, they seem to be against you only adding fuel to the problem. it is some powerful stuff and should be taken with respect and full knowledge of the effects beforehand. i dont see the harm if done correctly, im sure there are side effects if used habitually for a long period of time but in the mean time, bong it, high heat, hold for 30 seconds, have a spotter, and be seated, and last of all enjoy.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: January 26, 2010 10:57PM

This stuff sounds great. I've always wanted to be trapped in an overhead compartment in an airplane.

And, dark beings who are plotting against me... I mean, who doesn't find paranoia exhilarating?

I want to try this! Who will be my spotter? Actually, I'll probably need two.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 26, 2010 11:05PM

Alias Wrote:
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>
> I want to try this! Who will be my spotter?
> Actually, I'll probably need two.



I'll be your spotter Alias...I promise not to take advantage of you.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 26, 2010 11:22PM

I'll be your spotter too! I promise I WILL take advantage of you!

Alias Wrote:
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> This stuff sounds great. I've always wanted to be
> trapped in an overhead compartment in an airplane.
>
>
> And, dark beings who are plotting against me... I
> mean, who doesn't find paranoia exhilarating?
>
> I want to try this! Who will be my spotter?
> Actually, I'll probably need two.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: January 26, 2010 11:41PM

Haha.

I'm thinking.... maybe I need a third spotter.

Can eesh handle this on his own?

I'll be out of it and Harry will be doing....who knows what.

eesh will try to intervene.. I'll push him away.

Yep, definitely, a third spotter.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 26, 2010 11:42PM

Less is more, baby! One spotter is all you need! ;)

Alias Wrote:
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> Haha.
>
> I'm thinking.... maybe I need a third spotter.
>
> Can eesh handle this on his own?
>
> I'll be out of it and Harry will be doing....who
> knows what.
>
> eesh will try to intervene.. I'll push him away.
>
> Yep, definitely, a third spotter.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 26, 2010 11:48PM

Alias Wrote:
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> Can eesh handle this on his own?

>



The question is...can you handle me? All you'll remember is a huge white snake on a landing strip moving up between two mountains, and I will just say it was part of your salvia trip.

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: January 26, 2010 11:51PM

You're fired.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 26, 2010 11:51PM

Dude, I thought you were black!?

eesh Wrote:
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> The question is...can you handle me? All you'll
> remember is a huge white snake on a landing strip
> moving up between two mountains, and I will just
> say it was part of your salvia trip.



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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 26, 2010 11:52PM

But I didn't even mention any motherfucking snake on any motherfucking mountains!

What the fuck!?

Alias Wrote:
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> You're fired.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 26, 2010 11:55PM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> Dude, I thought you were black!?
>



I was Ethiopian, but I used skin beaching cream and now I look like a blisters duck. :-(((

Blessed are the murderous.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: January 26, 2010 11:58PM

You're not fired, Harry.

You would never talk like that.

eesh, on the other hand...

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: duck duck eesh ()
Date: January 27, 2010 12:03AM

eesh Wrote:
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> Harry Tuttle Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dude, I thought you were black!?
> >
>
>
>
> I was Ethiopian, but I used skin beaching cream
> and now I look like a blisters duck. :-(((


you mean this duck?
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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Haha ()
Date: January 27, 2010 03:47AM

Salvias fuked up 50% chance bad trip.

If need be, buy off ebay obviously.

If you are UNABLE to do even this, then you probably dont know
what it means to open a pobox over the phone in another state and have you mail forwarded!!!

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: nope ()
Date: January 27, 2010 03:51AM

Haha Wrote:
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> Salvia... open a po box over the phone in
> another state and have your mail forwarded!!!


still illegal

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Evony ()
Date: January 27, 2010 12:03PM

Can salvia facilitate an encounter with alien beings from another "mental universe," who are gathering up human memes like art collectors?

http://deoxy.org/timemind.htm

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: NotInVA ()
Date: January 27, 2010 12:59PM

Yes, many people encounter beings from other planes. Although I would say the flow of information is more downward to us than up to them. It can be a powerful trip, but your fear is your own worst enemy. Unlike a standard out of body experience, with enough salvia, just thinking or moving your body does not normally allow you to just snap out of it. You're in the dream and the dream becomes reality.

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Can salvia facilitate an encounter with alien beings from another "mental universe," who are gathering up human memes like art collectors?

[deoxy.org]

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Kenny_Powers ()
Date: January 28, 2010 08:24PM

Evony Wrote:
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> Can salvia facilitate an encounter with alien
> beings from another "mental universe," who are
> gathering up human memes like art collectors?

i thought that was MDMA?

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: January 28, 2010 09:12PM

I approve this message...

NotInVA Wrote:
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> Yes, many people encounter beings from other
> planes. Although I would say the flow of
> information is more downward to us than up to
> them. It can be a powerful trip, but your fear is
> your own worst enemy. Unlike a standard out of
> body experience, with enough salvia, just thinking
> or moving your body does not normally allow you to
> just snap out of it. You're in the dream and the
> dream becomes reality.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 28, 2010 11:54PM

NotInVA Wrote:
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> Yes, many people encounter beings from other
> planes. Although I would say the flow of
> information is more downward to us than up to
> them. It can be a powerful trip, but your fear is
> your own worst enemy. Unlike a standard out of
> body experience, with enough salvia, just thinking
> or moving your body does not normally allow you to
> just snap out of it. You're in the dream and the
> dream becomes reality.
>
> --------------
> Can salvia facilitate an encounter with alien
> beings from another "mental universe," who are
> gathering up human memes like art collectors?
>
>
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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: Evony ()
Date: January 29, 2010 01:27AM

Ain't any of you cats hip to Terence McKenna?

Kind of a nut, but a great raconteur on the subject of hallucinogens.

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Re: Salvia divinorum
Posted by: This guy? ()
Date: January 29, 2010 02:37AM


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