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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Ummm... ()
Date: May 18, 2019 09:37PM

You get what you pay for Wrote:
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> You get what you pay for Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> I’m saying that obviously, you people are just
> clueless. Even as mindless white dumbfucks, you
> enjoy a HUGE advantage as the result of built-in
> systemic racism. No matter what you have done,
> you cannot claim to have done it on your own.


So what HUGE white advantage is it that causes illegals to be violent criminals even compared to other legal immigrants?


file.php?2,file=371513,filename=Illegals

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: real facts ()
Date: May 19, 2019 10:06AM

Undocumented immigrants less likely to commit crimes than U.S. citizens.

https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/aug/03/antonio-villaraigosa/mostly-true-undocumented-immigrants-less-likely-co/

One of the many reasons we should encourage more illegal immigration.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Common sense... ()
Date: May 19, 2019 10:39AM

It isn't at all necessary that immigration be illegal. That much of it is today is simply the fault of narrow-minded racists and trained-seal right-wing screamers -- the America-hating people that Hillary correctly labeled as DEPLORABLES.

What we actually do need is comprehensive immigration reform than can restore the rational flows of goods and human beings within the major socio-economic zone that has long existed along our southern border
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Bogus 'Fact' Checks ()
Date: May 19, 2019 10:46AM

real facts Wrote:
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> Undocumented immigrants less likely to commit
> crimes than U.S. citizens.
>
> https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2
> 017/aug/03/antonio-villaraigosa/mostly-true-undocu
> mented-immigrants-less-likely-co/
>
> One of the many reasons we should encourage more
> illegal immigration.


It's bullshit 'fact checking' relying on 'studies' intended to reach a forgone conclusion.

First, most selectively intermix data for immigrants and illegals.

Second, most only count incarcerations. Since illegals are less likely identified and less likely to show up after arrest and release, more likely to flee and/or be deported, they'd be greatly underrepresented.

Third, they typically rely on extrapolations of a single data set to represent the whole.

Fourth, and in the best case, they're comparing crime rates against the worst populations of US offenders.

When you actually look at arrests, the numbers begin to change significantly.
When you look at who is sitting in jails, then the numbers are vastly different.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/02/15/most-immigrants-arrested-by-ice-have-prior-criminal-convictions-a-big-change-from-2009/

And simply by definition, every illegal is guilty of multiple crimes by being here illegally along with related violations of fraud and other crimes.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: more flan please ()
Date: May 19, 2019 10:48AM

Bogus 'Fact' Checks Wrote:
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> real facts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Undocumented immigrants less likely to commit
> > crimes than U.S. citizens.
> >
> >
> https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2
>
> >
> 017/aug/03/antonio-villaraigosa/mostly-true-undocu
>
> > mented-immigrants-less-likely-co/
> >
> > One of the many reasons we should encourage
> more
> > illegal immigration.
>
>
> It's bullshit 'fact checking' relying on 'studies'
> intended to reach a forgone conclusion.
>
> First, most selectively intermix data for
> immigrants and illegals.
>
> Second, most only count incarcerations. Since
> illegals are less likely identified and less
> likely to show up after arrest and release, more
> likely to flee and/or be deported, they'd be
> greatly underrepresented.
>
> Third, they typically rely on extrapolations of a
> single data set to represent the whole.
>
> Fourth, and in the best case, they're comparing
> crime rates against the worst populations of US
> offenders.
>
> When you actually look at arrests, the numbers
> begin to change significantly.
> When you look at who is sitting in jails, then
> the numbers are vastly different.
>
> https://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf
> https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/02/15/m
> ost-immigrants-arrested-by-ice-have-prior-criminal
> -convictions-a-big-change-from-2009/
>
> And simply by definition, every illegal is guilty
> of multiple crimes by being here illegally along
> with related violations of fraud and other crimes.


Why are you such a coward?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: BS. ()
Date: May 19, 2019 10:54AM

Common sense... Wrote:
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> It isn't at all necessary that immigration be
> illegal. That much of it is today is simply the
> fault of narrow-minded racists and trained-seal
> right-wing screamers -- the America-hating people
> that Hillary correctly labeled as DEPLORABLES.
>
> What we actually do need is comprehensive
> immigration reform than can restore the rational
> flows of goods and human beings within the major
> socio-economic zone that has long existed along
> our southern border
> .


^ Again using conviction rates.

'Comprehensive immigration reform' is just a bullshit talking point.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Run Jose Run ()
Date: May 19, 2019 11:06AM

U.S. immigration courts recently released their numbers to Congress for fiscal year 2017. These no-shows remain high, with 43 percent of all those free before trial — 41,302 aliens out of 95,342 — disappearing from court in 2017.

Failures to Appear in Court

American immigration courts consistently have the highest failure to appear (FTA) rates of any state or federal courts in the country. From 1996 through 2017, 37 percent of all aliens free pending trial disappeared. From the 2,680,598 foreign nationals that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) released on their own recognizance, 1,320,000, received deportation orders, 75 percent of them (993,593) for failure to appear. Only 25 percent of this group — some 324,402 people altogether — actually tried their cases.

Contrast this dynamic with accused felons in state court who abscond (i.e., those who jump bail or commit escape) while free pending trial. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 70 percent of these absconders are returned to custody within a year of their disappearance.

The fail to appear rates also are understated since they include those who could not evade court because they were detained.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: local man55 ()
Date: May 19, 2019 11:11AM

Illegals are harmless and good for America.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: MSNPC ()
Date: May 19, 2019 11:51AM

local man55 Wrote:
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: hoyle ()
Date: May 19, 2019 02:08PM

Fairfax City homeowner Wrote:
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> Two undocumented American ladies are cleaning my
> house and washing my clothes right now. These
> ladies do a wonderful job and they do not steal
> shit like the "legal" maids used to do. God bless
> the undocumented Americans!


It is funny how the Illegals are more trustworthy than Legals.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: FIFY ()
Date: May 19, 2019 02:58PM

hoyle Wrote:
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> Fairfax City homeowner Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Two undocumented American ladies are cleaning
> my
> > house and washing my clothes right now. These
> > ladies do a wonderful job and they do not steal
> > shit like the "legal" maids used to do. God
> bless
> > the undocumented Americans!
>
>
> It is funny how the Illegals are more trustworthy
> than Legals blacks.


^ FIFY

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: T9khw ()
Date: May 19, 2019 03:25PM

^^^ Oh look! It’s the board’s biggest asshole! Posting again from the dumps of Falls Church City!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: FIFY ()
Date: May 19, 2019 05:34PM

T9khw Wrote:
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> ^^^ Oh look! I'm t’s the board’s biggest asshole!
> Posting again from the dumps of Falls Church
> City!
my carport.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Tcmky ()
Date: May 19, 2019 07:40PM

FIFY = ASSHOLE TRIGGERED BY MEGA-ENVY AND MASSIVE FALLS CHURCH BUTTHURT

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: It's a HELOC life ()
Date: May 19, 2019 08:21PM

Tcmky Wrote:
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> FIFY = ASSHOLE TRIGGERED BY MEGA-ENVY AND MASSIVE
> FALLS CHURCH BUTTHURT


'Stead of treated,

We get tricked.


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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: ^^^ So much envy & butthurt ()
Date: May 20, 2019 09:40AM

A birds-and-breeze friendly carport plus a gorgeous cypress shed beats the crap out of a tiny garage so full of useless shit that you have to park on the street anyway. The facts are that life is really hard in Falls Church City these days. In this century, it's really only for those hard-scrabble sorts still trying to work their way up. Nobody with any actual money actually lives there any more.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: oh yeah. ()
Date: May 20, 2019 08:46PM

hoyle Wrote:
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> Fairfax City homeowner Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Two undocumented American ladies are cleaning
> my
> > house and washing my clothes right now. These
> > ladies do a wonderful job and they do not steal
> > shit like the "legal" maids used to do. God
> bless
> > the undocumented Americans!
>
>
> It is funny how the Illegals are more trustworthy
> than Legals.


Exactly.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Knot ()
Date: May 20, 2019 08:53PM

oh yeah. Wrote:
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> hoyle Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fairfax City homeowner Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Two undocumented American ladies are cleaning
> > my
> > > house and washing my clothes right now. These
> > > ladies do a wonderful job and they do not
> steal
> > > shit like the "legal" maids used to do. God
> > bless
> > > the undocumented Americans!
> >
> >
> > It is funny how the Illegals are more
> trustworthy
> > than Legals.
>
>
> Exactly.


file.php?2,file=371513,filename=Illegals

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Ay caramba! ()
Date: May 20, 2019 09:04PM

^^^ Muy racist pricks.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: youmightbemightyundesirable ()
Date: May 20, 2019 10:46PM

To any who worked in the service industry, especially the food service industry, can since the early 1970's can recall that employers preferred and often required that low income jobs be filled by illegal aliens--I do not mean Chicanos and I do not even mean Green Card holders--I mean Illegals! Even Tyson foods were found to do that. Moreover--when people tried to speed up the visa/work permit process that could take a decade or more, Richard Nixon said "Business does not want legal immigration!"

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Actually... ()
Date: May 21, 2019 09:09AM

Like others, the food service industry hires from among its pool of applicants. You can go out and advertise all you want, but in the end, you'll hire from among those who show up at your door. If they have papers that can plausibly be taken as proof that they are eligible to work here, they are going to get hired.

If you happen to run a meat-packing plant, you'll get immigrant Asian and Hispanic applicants plus some native blacks and virtually no whites at all. You'll have to choose from among those as best you can in an effort to build a workforce that can cooperate and work together as is necessary in a meat-packing plant.

YOUR idea that there has ever been a time when applicants had to PROVE that they were illegal is one of the dumbest all-time things ever typed. You're just plain stupider than shit.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: keycard6 ()
Date: May 22, 2019 04:33AM

Illegals are often hired to do housekeeping work at budget priced motels like motel 6, super 8 or Days inn. They are very important to that industry.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Do Not Disturb ()
Date: May 22, 2019 07:37AM

keycard6 Wrote:
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> Illegals are often hired to do housekeeping work
> at budget priced motels like motel 6, super 8 or
> Days inn. They are very important to that industry.

Price has nothing to do with it. Housekeeping at the finest hotels is also staffed with immigrants. You can only hire the people who apply.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: low budget traveller ()
Date: May 22, 2019 05:16PM

Illegals are very nobel people. They do the jobs that we don't want to do.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: FIFY ()
Date: May 22, 2019 06:18PM

low budget traveller Wrote:
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> Illegals are very nobel noble people. They do the jobs
> violent crimes that we don't want to do.


^ FIFY

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lost & Found ()
Date: May 22, 2019 06:20PM

FIFY Wrote:
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> low budget traveller Wrote:
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> -----
> > Illegals are very nobel noble people.
> They do the jobs
> > violent crimes that we don't want to do.
>
> ^ FIFY

Anyone seen FIFY's marbles???

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Found this ()
Date: May 22, 2019 06:33PM

file.php?2,file=371513,filename=Illegals

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Evil Illegal Tranny Spawn ()
Date: May 22, 2019 08:31PM

PUBLISHED: 15:55 EDT, 10 May 2019 | UPDATED: 11:25 EDT, 14 May 2019

Jose-Evis-Quintana-3.jpg


Jose Evis Quintana's mugshot on April 17 2017 when he was arrested and deported to Mexico from Castle Rock, Colorado

The father of one of the alleged STEM School Highlands Ranch shooters in Colorado is a serial felon and illegal immigrant from Mexico, DailyMail.com can reveal.

Jose Evis Quintana, the father of alleged 16-year-old killer Alec McKinney was once jailed for 15 months for domestic violence against Alec's mother and 'menacing with a weapon'.

McKinney has been charged alongside his friend Devon Erickson of killing one student and injuring eight others at the school close to Denver, Colorado.

Records show Quintana, 33, who was also deported twice, had a string of arrests in Colorado dating from 2008 to 2017.

Court papers show that despite Quintana terrorizing Alec's mother Morgan Lynn McKinney, 32, he managed to convince her to marry him in 2009, a year before he was first deported.

Quintana, 33, who admitted to having a history of drink and drug problems, was sent back to his native Mexico on December 9, 2010.

Transgender McKinney, who was born a girl called Mya, had turned 16 on April 14 and wrote on twitter on April 26: 'My mom talking to me about how she hates the new alec. Mom: I miss my Alec can you find him for me. Me: I miss my dad can you find him for me.'

Records at Douglas County District Court in Castle Rock, Colorado show Quintana had been jailed for 15 months in August 2009 for 'menacing with a weapon' and domestic violence against hairstylist Morgan.

Quintana and Morgan had Alec, born Mya Elizabeth, on April 14, 2003.

In January 2007 the couple had a son and in July 2008 they had a daughter.

But just two months later, on August 22, 2008, 5ft 10ins tall Quintana was charged with attempting to kidnap, 'menacing with a weapon', and failing to stop for police.

He was jailed on February 3, 2009, pending his trial, when he failed to see a court official.

Court papers said Quintana 'wishes to stay in custody since he has a problem with drugs and alcohol'.

The court agreed and also allowed Quintana to have supervised visits with Alec and his siblings in jail, on condition Morgan was not present.

On July 29, 2009, with Quintana in jail pending his trial, Morgan successfully gained permanent custody of their three children.

On September 2009, Quintana was sentenced to 15 months in prison when all the charges against him, apart from 'menacing' Morgan with a weapon, were dropped. He was also ordered to undergo domestic violence counseling.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: librarian ()
Date: May 22, 2019 08:49PM

^^^Just Bullshit^^^^^

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Reading is fundamental ()
Date: May 22, 2019 11:33PM

^^^^^ LOL! You aren't even literate.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Sick opf your shit. ()
Date: May 23, 2019 07:56AM

Go fuck yourself, you racist puke.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: pete z ()
Date: May 23, 2019 04:46PM

Lots of people are afraid of illegals. They are just cowards.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: CatinBox ()
Date: May 23, 2019 11:30PM

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Out of order... ()
Date: May 24, 2019 12:03PM

Except in the not at all stable mind of President Total Racist Assfuck, it is legal for folks to caravan up to a US port-of-entry and apply for asylum.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Only their best, THEIR BEST!!!!! ()
Date: May 25, 2019 01:41PM

On Wednesday, a man was arrested after allegedly impregnating an 11-year-old Phoenix girl.

On May 17, Phoenix police arrested 20-year-old Carlos Jacinto Cobo-Perez at his home near 7th Street and Northern Avenue. He was in the country illegally.


https://www.abc15.com/news/crime/pd-man-has-sex-with-11-year-old-girl-outside-her-phoenix-grade-school

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: They are the salt of the earth ()
Date: May 25, 2019 01:46PM

An illegal alien from Mexico has been arrested and charged with murdering a beloved 75-year-old grandmother in Houston, Texas.

Marco Cobos, 19-years-old, is an illegal alien from Mexico, a law enforcement official confirmed to Breitbart News. On May 19, Cobos allegedly stabbed 75-year-old Etta Nugent 13 times in her home for 40 minutes to an hour as she begged for her life.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Man-stabbed-elderly-woman-more-than-13-times-with-13872624.php#photo-17524100

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Wake up call... ()
Date: May 25, 2019 01:47PM

Once again for the completely stupid, immigrants, whether legal or illegal, are involved in crime at rates lower than those of the native-born. How is this so hard for some to latch onto?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: In case you missed it ()
Date: May 25, 2019 02:04PM

file.php?2,file=371513,filename=Illegals

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Wake up call ()
Date: May 25, 2019 02:16PM

You are too much of a dumbass to realize that your chart does not mean what you think it means, and that posting it over and over just marks you as a total stupid shit.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Let me fix that for you ()
Date: May 25, 2019 02:23PM

Wake up call Wrote:
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> You are I'm too much of a dumbass to realize that your
> chart does not mean what you I think it means, and
> that posting ignoring it over and over just marks you me as a
> total stupid shit. Please stop making me look like the asshole I am.


FIFY

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Jim Teacher ()
Date: May 25, 2019 03:15PM

There are many compelling reasons why having a large undocumented population is a problem for society. It undermines law and order, permits a shadow economy that is harder to regulate, and is simply unfair to the millions of immigrants who have come here legally. Yet, while the undocumented population frequently comes under fierce criticism, the data shows that a large number of the nearly 13 million undocumented immigrants here are working, paying taxes, and even starting their own businesses. They also play an integral role in our economy, often filling jobs in agriculture, construction, and hospitality that would otherwise remain vacant.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Truth  ()
Date: May 25, 2019 04:07PM

Jim Teacher Wrote:
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> There are many compelling reasons why having a
> large undocumented population is a problem for
> society. It undermines law and order, permits a
> shadow economy that is harder to regulate, and is
> simply unfair to the millions of immigrants who
> have come here legally. Yet, while the
> undocumented population frequently comes under
> fierce criticism, the data shows that a large
> number of the nearly 13 million undocumented
> immigrants here are working, paying taxes, and
> even starting their own businesses. They also play
> an integral role in our economy, often filling
> jobs in agriculture, construction, and hospitality
> that would otherwise remain vacant.


Too bad there are about 25 million in any given year. Only fucking retards still believe that there are 11 - 14 million. That's the number they were throwing around 25 years ago.

Jobs remain vacant because the pay is shit for the work. Those assholes in agriculture, construction, and hospitality need to increase their pay. When they pay just above what someone can get with SSDI, food stamps and other government handouts, the 25% of the perennially lazy simply won't work. Illegals working for $7/hour is a big reason whey the minimum wage has been stuck at $7.25 for over 10 years.

These illegals ship out over $250 billion every year back south (or wherever else they come from) to their first families. That's a quarter of a trillion every year sucked out of the US economy. Almost $40 billion goes to Mexico alone. The Mexican economy makes more money from US to Mexico remittances than they do from their oil. It is a close second to gang cartels as the biggest part of the Mexican economy.

Open borders brings with it an influx of illegal drugs, sex traffic (large portion under aged), slave labor/human trafficing, gang activity, grand theft, money laundering, and probable terrorism. It simply isn't worth it for the US.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: H7tbe ()
Date: May 25, 2019 04:42PM

Let me fix that for you Wrote:
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> Wake up call Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > You are I'm too much of a dumbass to realize that your
> > chart does not mean what you I think it means, and
> > that posting ignoring it over and over just marks you me as a
> > total stupid shit. Please stop making me looklike the asshole I am.
>
>
> FIFY

Let me tell you to go fuck yourself, you worthless douche.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: They don't belong here MF ()
Date: May 25, 2019 04:43PM

What happens as more jobs are automated and phased out?

What's the plan then?

"Oh, we'll worry about it then" - oh fuck no, you won't.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lol... ()
Date: May 25, 2019 05:04PM

Automation? Any idea when THAT started, dumbo?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lol... ()
Date: May 25, 2019 06:12PM

They can't automate an illegal gook pedicuring my nasty old man feet for a few bucks.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lololol... ()
Date: May 25, 2019 06:18PM

Personal services, baby. But why not be a man and use your own handle instead of being such a total assfuck?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: retired3 ()
Date: May 25, 2019 08:58PM

Illegals have helped me keep my home in my retirement. They are good people.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lololol... ()
Date: May 26, 2019 12:19PM

As we age, the best among us accumulate two things -- wealth and boo-boos. At some point, the scales call on us to farm out some tasks to younger, stronger folks who will do a better job for what amounts to not much money. Paupers will of course whine over their own lack of means to follow along. Sucks to be them...

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: JP Fungusfeet ()
Date: May 26, 2019 12:46PM

And some of us need our nasty ass toenail fungus cleaned up by illegal gook girls working for nothing.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: I am here to fix that for you ()
Date: May 26, 2019 12:49PM

Lololol... Wrote:
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> As we age, the best among us accumulate two things
> -- wealth and boo-boos. At some point, the scales
> call on us to farm out some tasks to younger,
> stronger folks who will do a better job for what
> amounts to not much money. Paupers will of course
> whine over their own lack of means to follow
> along. Sucks to be them...
I like to pick up
> young spics outside 7-11 and pay them $100 to come
> to my house in Dunn Loring and make
> gay videos for me. I upload them to my Sprint phone
> and watch them all day. Sucks to be me...


FIFY

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lololol... ()
Date: May 26, 2019 12:51PM

Speak for yourself, loser. Perhaps your hygiene habits are not quite up to par. Of course, a decent pedicure would likely cost you around $50, and so might be that far out of your reach.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: GP' ()
Date: May 26, 2019 01:35PM

Another little known fact Wrote:
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> Undocumented immigrants nationwide pay an
> estimated average of 8 percent of their incomes in
> state and local taxes. To put this in perspective,
> the top 1 percent of nationwide taxpayers pay an
> average effective tax rate of 5.4 percent in state
> and local taxes.


Good point.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Yes... ()
Date: May 26, 2019 01:40PM

GP' Wrote:
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> Another little known fact Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Undocumented immigrants nationwide pay an
> > estimated average of 8 percent of their incomes
> in
> > state and local taxes. To put this in
> perspective,
> > the top 1 percent of nationwide taxpayers pay
> an
> > average effective tax rate of 5.4 percent in
> state
> > and local taxes.
>
>
> Good point.


Since it says that illegals pay little to nothing in taxes vs the benefits they and their many children receive.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Jan.3 ()
Date: May 26, 2019 09:46PM

I used to have Black neighbors then I got Hispanic neighbors. Hispanics make great neighbors!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Hmmm... ()
Date: May 27, 2019 08:35AM

Yes... Wrote:
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> Since it says that illegals pay little to nothing in taxes
> vs the benefits they and their many children receive.

You are fucked in the head. Immigrants pay all the same taxes that you do. You'd pay more if there was a stupid tax, but we don't actually have that yet.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: ron bell ()
Date: May 27, 2019 09:20AM

jason j Wrote:
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> While the nation’s attention currently is
> focused on the southern border, what’s being
> forgotten is that millions of undocumented
> immigrants continue to live in the United States
> — and most of them work.
>
> These workers play vital roles in the U.S.
> economy: erecting American buildings, picking
> American apples and grapes, and taking care of
> American babies.
>
> Oh, and paying American taxes.


exactly.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Ticks ()
Date: May 27, 2019 01:34PM

Hmmm... Wrote:
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> Yes... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since it says that illegals pay little to
> nothing in taxes
> > vs the benefits they and their many children
> receive.
>
> You are fucked in the head. Immigrants pay all
> the same taxes that you do. You'd pay more if
> there was a stupid tax, but we don't actually have
> that yet.


False. And whatever they pay at whatever a percentage of their meager incomes amounts to squat relative to their costs and that of their many children.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Jim Teacher ()
Date: May 27, 2019 01:47PM

Ticks Wrote:
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> Hmmm... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Since it says that illegals pay little to
> > nothing in taxes
> > > vs the benefits they and their many children
> > receive.
> >
> > You are fucked in the head. Immigrants pay all
> > the same taxes that you do. You'd pay more if
> > there was a stupid tax, but we don't actually
> have
> > that yet.
>
>
> False. And whatever they pay at whatever a
> percentage of their meager incomes amounts to
> squat relative to their costs and that of their
> many children.


In most cases those children who are now citizens get jobs and pay income taxes for 40 plus years. What little they get now gets paid back hundreds of times over.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Dregs ()
Date: May 27, 2019 01:54PM

Jim Teacher Wrote:
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> Ticks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hmmm... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Yes... Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Since it says that illegals pay little to
> > > nothing in taxes
> > > > vs the benefits they and their many
> children
> > > receive.
> > >
> > > You are fucked in the head. Immigrants pay
> all
> > > the same taxes that you do. You'd pay more
> if
> > > there was a stupid tax, but we don't actually
> > have
> > > that yet.
> >
> >
> > False. And whatever they pay at whatever a
> > percentage of their meager incomes amounts to
> > squat relative to their costs and that of their
> > many children.
>
>
> In most cases those children who are now citizens
> get jobs and pay income taxes for 40 plus years.
> What little they get now gets paid back hundreds
> of times over.


In most cases their relative economic status changes little even after multiple generations and the majority remain a net drain along with the rest of +50% of Americans at the bottom of the barrel.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Eytch ()
Date: May 27, 2019 02:13PM

That’s racist dumbfuck nonsense.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: poly sigh ()
Date: May 27, 2019 02:42PM

With our birth rate down and a growth based economy we need all the Illegals we can get.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Mexican Plateau ()
Date: May 27, 2019 02:56PM

Eytch Wrote:
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> That’s racist dumbfuck nonsense.


That's fact.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Pyramids never work out well ()
Date: May 27, 2019 02:57PM

poly sigh Wrote:
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> With our birth rate down and a growth based
> economy we need all the Illegals we can get.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2019/04/05/the-world-economy-is-a-pyramid-scheme-steven-chu-says/#f349b1f4f178

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: landlord 22 ()
Date: May 27, 2019 03:05PM

poly sigh Wrote:
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> With our birth rate down and a growth based
> economy we need all the Illegals we can get.

Agreed, I rent houses to Illegals and they have made me reasonably wealthy.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Seems ur keyboard broke-fixed it ()
Date: May 27, 2019 03:19PM

poly sigh Wrote:
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> With our birth rate down and a growth based
> economy we need all the Illegals we can get.

> I pick up young illegals from the local 7-11
> and pay them $100 to come back to my house and
> make gay porn videos. I watch them later on
> my shitty Sprint phone while jacking off in my
> carport.


FIFY

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: 4hbbf ()
Date: May 27, 2019 03:24PM

FIFY is just an ignorant fathead Falls Church loser-shit

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Wake up call ()
Date: May 27, 2019 03:33PM

Steven Chu should know that economies grow based on increases in both population and productivity.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Illegals r bad anyway u slice it ()
Date: May 27, 2019 04:23PM

Wake up call Wrote:
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> Steven Chu should know that economies grow based
> on increases in both population and productivity.


and innovation. And even war. There are a lot of reasons an economy 'grows'. You only cite two. You're a homo who only knows what 30 years at the IRS taught you. Many of us here know much more than that. You're also stupid and not much to look at either, but I don't want to be too harsh in doling out the truth.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Wake up call ()
Date: May 27, 2019 07:42PM

Come on, dope. You never saw a connection between innovation and productivity? That’s dumb. And wars of course are short-term outliers. Bottom line is that you are a nobody playing with so much less than a full deck that you only make actually educated people laugh at you.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Pat Dennison ()
Date: June 15, 2019 07:30AM

I got some Illegals to care for my lawn. They do a better job for less money than the Legals charge. You got to love Illegals!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Reminder... ()
Date: June 15, 2019 07:59AM

All you can tell is whether they are seemingly Hispanic or not.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: poly sigh ()
Date: June 15, 2019 09:33PM

It's all about economics. It's good if you have oil. It's good if you have rich farmland. It's good if you have a young, healthy workforce. With white fertility being what it's been, immigrants are our life preserver here. We need more of them and we need them yesterday.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Immigrants Cause Climate Change ()
Date: June 15, 2019 09:40PM

poly sigh Wrote:
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> It's all about economics. It's good if you have
> oil. It's good if you have rich farmland. It's
> good if you have a young, healthy workforce. With
> white fertility being what it's been, immigrants
> are our life preserver here. We need more of them
> and we need them yesterday.


Immigrants increase population.

Population is the primary driver for climate change.

The carbon footprint of an immigrant increases dramatically by moving to the US.

Immigrants are killing the planet.


#StopBigImmigrantionNow

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lol... ()
Date: June 16, 2019 09:12AM

Immigrants Cause Climate Change Wrote:
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> Immigrants increase population.
> Population is the primary driver for climate change.
> The carbon footprint of an immigrant increases dramatically by moving to the US.
> Immigrants are killing the planet.

That is such a complete dud of failed right-wing thinking. It's no wonder that everything else you bozos come up with is such a total load of crap as well.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Immigrants Cause Climate Change ()
Date: June 16, 2019 04:41PM

Lol... Wrote:
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> Immigrants Cause Climate Change Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Immigrants increase population.
> > Population is the primary driver for climate
> change.
> > The carbon footprint of an immigrant increases
> dramatically by moving to the US.
> > Immigrants are killing the planet.
>
> That is such a complete dud of failed right-wing
> thinking. It's no wonder that everything else you
> bozos come up with is such a total load of crap as
> well.


https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/population_and_sustainability/climate/

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lol... ()
Date: June 16, 2019 04:47PM

Being an asshole again doesn’t undo the first time.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Immigrants Cause Climate Change ()
Date: June 16, 2019 05:16PM

Population growth in the US is the source of increased US CO2 emissions.

Population growth in the US is driven by immigration and the higher rates of birth of immigrants.

A child born in the US will cause almost seven times the carbon emissions of a child born in China and 168 times the impact of a child born in Bangladesh.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Laughing at assholes ()
Date: June 16, 2019 05:21PM

I guess we should want to be more like Bangladesh. Who’s up for that?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Immigrants Cause Climate Change ()
Date: June 16, 2019 05:33PM

Laughing at assholes Wrote:
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> I guess we should want to be more like Bangladesh.
> Who’s up for that?


If you want to save the planet, then yes.

A person who stays in Central America produces 1/5th the CO2 vs that same person when moved to the US. Not counting the even greater production by their children.

Immigrants or climate... pick one.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Play group ()
Date: June 16, 2019 08:18PM

Time to go get your diaper changed.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: jklfjkjaperoi ()
Date: June 16, 2019 08:25PM

The truth is that DOCUMENTED American immigrants are essential to the US economy. The immigrants that came in and actually built this country from scratch were DOCUMENTED, as they have been in all the other world countries. And the paperwork to do just that documentation creates even more jobs for the people that are here.

Your brain bucket is full, but what happens to a bucket with a huge hole in the bottom? Go figure it out for yourself!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Immigrants Cause Climate Change ()
Date: June 16, 2019 08:46PM

The truth is that immigrants are responsible for the increase in US planet-killing CO2 emissions.

Per capita CO2 emissions are down. But they increased overall due to the growth in population. The growth in population is due entirely to immigrants. Immigrants who increase their C02 footprint greatly by moving to the US.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: p9xeb ()
Date: June 17, 2019 08:13AM

^^^ Stupid people will believe anything. Except that they are stupid.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Paki pedophiles ()
Date: June 18, 2019 08:39AM

Laughing at assholes Wrote:
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> I guess we should want to be more like Bangladesh.
> Who’s up for that?






South Asia is a shithole.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: slimone22 ()
Date: June 27, 2019 04:58AM

Lawd Fairfax Wrote:
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> Illegals, cant live with them - cant live without
> them. lol.
>
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-us
> -economy-farm-workers-taxes/


Why not?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: in need of... ()
Date: July 04, 2019 03:47PM

JP Fungusfeet Wrote:
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> And some of us need our nasty ass toenail fungus
> cleaned up by illegal gook girls working for
> nothing.

Where can you get that?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Gerard velez ()
Date: July 06, 2019 08:02AM

Paki pedophiles Wrote:
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> Laughing at assholes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I guess we should want to be more like
> Bangladesh.
> > Who’s up for that?
>
>
>

South Asia is a shithole. >
>


>
> South Asia is a shithole.




Pakistan is a literal toilet.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: lwe ()
Date: July 13, 2019 10:41AM

Lawd Fairfax Wrote:
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> Illegals, cant live with them - cant live without
> them. lol.
>
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-us
> -economy-farm-workers-taxes/


Sad but true!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: HTML 1.0 ()
Date: July 13, 2019 10:50AM

lwe Wrote:
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> Lawd Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > Illegals, cant live with them - cant live without them. lol.
> >
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-us-economy-farm-workers-taxes/
>
> Sad but true!

Helps if you can do the link correctly. Try the version just above.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: National Report Illegals Day ()
Date: July 13, 2019 10:42PM

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Beware the legals... ()
Date: July 14, 2019 09:45AM

And if you're wrong, an Hispanic citizen will be suing your pathetic little ass off.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: demshatecitizens010101 ()
Date: July 14, 2019 09:59AM

And those workers can temporarily come to the USA on a workers permit as well. That is perfectly legal. No need NOT to kick the asylum seeking and illegal border jumper trash the hell out of the country.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: 6pac2go ()
Date: July 14, 2019 10:03AM

EIP Wrote:
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> just facts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Illegal Immigration has an overall positive
> impact
> > on the long-run economic growth in the U.S.
> >
> > FACT.
>
>
> Educated and intelligent people know that.
> Rightards are cowards and they are scared of
> immigrants so they hate on them.


That's what it is really all about. Fear controls the right.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: HMN9C ()
Date: July 14, 2019 10:09AM

6pac2go Wrote:
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> EIP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > just facts Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Illegal Immigration has an overall positive
> > impact
> > > on the long-run economic growth in the U.S.
> > >
> > > FACT.
> >
> >
> > Educated and intelligent people know that.
> > Rightards are cowards and they are scared of
> > immigrants so they hate on them.
>
>
> That's what it is really all about. Fear controls
> the right.


It's true. I fear for my wallet. What controls the left? Handouts.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Get straight... ()
Date: July 14, 2019 10:13AM

Lay off the hate-mongering FOX-fucking News.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: liberaltears8239088309 ()
Date: July 14, 2019 12:16PM

Get straight... Wrote:
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> Lay off the hate-mongering FOX-fucking News.

Fuck you, you America hating liberal scum. And fuck off to one of your socialist 3rd world south american shit holes. Loser.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: sunny day ()
Date: July 17, 2019 08:27AM

6pac2go Wrote:
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> EIP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > just facts Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Illegal Immigration has an overall positive
> > impact
> > > on the long-run economic growth in the U.S.
> > >
> > > FACT.
> >
> >
> > Educated and intelligent people know that.
> > Rightards are cowards and they are scared of
> > immigrants so they hate on them.
>
>
> That's what it is really all about. Fear controls
> the right.


Yes, but please don't hate on conservatives. They were born into this, their parents were also born cowards. Keep in mind that these people are truly victims and should be treated as victims. If you start in with hate and name calling then you bring yourself down to their level.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: luba tips ()
Date: July 17, 2019 12:53PM

liberaltears8239088309 Wrote:
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> Get straight... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lay off the hate-mongering FOX-fucking News.
>
> Fuck you, you America hating liberal scum. And
> fuck off to one of your socialist 3rd world south
> american shit holes. Loser.

You seem triggered. You are a crybaby bitch boy. Maybe you should move back to Europe.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: They do the brutal murders... ()
Date: July 17, 2019 01:05PM

That Americans don't want to do.


ms-13-gang-members-indicted-after-mediev

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