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The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lawd Fairfax ()
Date: September 22, 2018 07:48AM

Illegals, cant live with them - cant live without them. lol.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-us-economy-farm-workers-taxes/

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Brown Onion ()
Date: September 22, 2018 08:04AM

Lawd Fairfax Wrote:
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> Illegals, cant live with them - cant live without
> them. lol.
>
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-us
> -economy-farm-workers-taxes/


They do cause a need for more police and corrections officers, due to their violent ways.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: spritzer ()
Date: September 22, 2018 08:23AM

The wineries really need the illegal labor this time of year.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stupid douchebag... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 08:52AM

Brown Onion Wrote:
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> They do cause a need for more police and
> corrections officers, due to their violent ways.

Typically ignorant post from you, perhaps the dumbest and most pathetic of all posters on FFXU. In fact, legal and illegal immigrants each have lower crime and incarceration rates than the native-born. This is especially true with first-generation immigrants. No surprise though that you don't know that.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Brown Onion ()
Date: September 22, 2018 08:56AM

Stupid douchebag... Wrote:
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> Brown Onion Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They do cause a need for more police and
> > corrections officers, due to their violent
> ways.
>
> Typically ignorant post from you, perhaps the
> dumbest and most pathetic of all posters on FFXU.
> In fact, legal and illegal immigrants each have
> lower crime and incarceration rates than the
> native-born. This is especially true with
> first-generation immigrants. No surprise though
> that you don't know that.


Oh yes MS13 the Latin kings appreciate people like you Gerry. Yep the machete attacks, drunk drivings and shootings at Springfield Mall by the "South of the Border" crowd have enhanced the area. 30 people living in an apartment, see those property values. Why don't you have a can of shut the fuck up?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Awash in a sea of fools ()
Date: September 22, 2018 08:57AM

The thread title should be restated. The truth is that many important jobs are being filled by undocumented workers, and that the only sensible approach to that problem is to make it easier to become documented. Trump and the asshole right-wing are of course going (and being led) in exactly the wrong direction.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lol at that one ()
Date: September 22, 2018 09:36AM

Brown Onion Wrote:
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> Stupid douchebag... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Brown Onion Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > They do cause a need for more police and
> > > corrections officers, due to their violent
> > ways.
> >
> > Typically ignorant post from you, perhaps the
> > dumbest and most pathetic of all posters on
> FFXU.
> > In fact, legal and illegal immigrants each have
> > lower crime and incarceration rates than the
> > native-born. This is especially true with
> > first-generation immigrants. No surprise
> though
> > that you don't know that.
>
>
> Oh yes MS13 the Latin kings appreciate people like
> you Gerry. Yep the machete attacks, drunk drivings
> and shootings at Springfield Mall by the "South of
> the Border" crowd have enhanced the area. 30
> people living in an apartment, see those property
> values. Why don't you have a can of shut the fuck
> up?




Lol dude.

Let not forget the endless diseases that are coming back like small pox, Tuberculosis, etc. America eradicated those decades ago. But thanks to the diversity scam we are again among the ranks of other 3rd world countries.


Celebrate the diversity!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: GTFO! ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:20AM

Awash in a sea of fools Wrote:
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> The thread title should be restated. The truth is
> that many important jobs are being filled by
> undocumented workers, and that the only sensible
> approach to that problem is to make it easier to
> become documented. Trump and the asshole
> right-wing are of course going (and being led) in
> exactly the wrong direction.


Cheap pedicures for your nasty old feet aren't worth the cost to the rest of us to support them and their many kids.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Felter Snatch ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:21AM

Perhaps the myth that immigrants are costly to American taxpayers stems from the fact that, at the state and local level, immigrants use more in services than they pay in local taxes (this is true for the vast majority of native citizens as well).
The National Academy of Sciences study found that the average immigrant imposes a net lifetime fiscal cost on state and local governments of $25,000, attributable to their use of schools, roads, and so on. Those with very low levels of education and skill cost states and localities the most, particularly in health care outlays for emergency room and other hospital services. However, most of the taxes that immigrants pay, including Social Security contributions, go to the federal government, and these payments are well in excess of federal benefits received.On balance, immigrants pay substantially more than they receive from all levels of government combined.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The Dixie Wigger ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:27AM

So with 350 million here we don't have enough people to pick fruit for all

Then wash cars clean toilets mow grass for elitist Democrats who want to save a few dollars for each service rendered

Slam that border door closed, no more immigrants legal or not that cant make their keep

America First

Whats The Problem ?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: HiFelterSnatch ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:29AM

^Felter, a DOD study from late 2016 concluded a number closer to 60K.
Each undocumented arrival when everything is tallied averages 60K annually.

A truly criminal burden that the middle class tax payer is stuck with.
23 Trillion in debt and no end in site.


Most people understand most are escaping poverty but, the system is broken. Our robust liberal welfare system is what attracts them. A large percentage, are happy to game the system. Unfortunately, where I live, there are many living quite well - and they seems happy to just suck off the dole and work off the books as maids and handyman if they work at all.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: HiFelterSnatch ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:30AM

^^^^Please excuse typos....above.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Laws v Lawlessness ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:33AM

The OP may have a point about the need for labor. However, nothing in the OP's argument provides an argument for lawlessness. Therefore, if there's a need for labor not met by current legal residents, increased legal immigration is the answer.

If the OP think's my statement is in error, the OP is free to provide economic justifications for turning us from a nation of laws to a nation of lawlessness.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stooges... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:35AM

GTFO! Wrote:
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> Cheap pedicures for your nasty old feet aren't
> worth the cost to the rest of us to support them
> and their many kids.

They pay all the same taxes that you do, buttfuck. They are typically nicer and smarter peoele as well.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Let them in! ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:39AM

They are vital! We should let them all in. Then, because they can't afford to live in many places, we should ignore make housing affordable by ignoring zoning and building codes. Because they have a different view of right and wrong, we should not prosecute them for violating our discriminatory Jedeo-Christian laws that set limits on behavior, particularly those dealing with sexual assault, physical assault, intoxication, and the like.

Let's do all of this because the laws don't matter when ideology is at stake!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: GTFO! ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:40AM

Stooges... Wrote:
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> GTFO! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Cheap pedicures for your nasty old feet aren't
> > worth the cost to the rest of us to support
> them
> > and their many kids.
>
> They pay all the same taxes that you do, buttfuck.
> They are typically nicer and smarter peoele as
> well.


False. And where they do it's at a much lower dollar level and not enough to offset their cost.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Suck it, loser... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:42AM

The Dixie Wigger Wrote:
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> Whats The Problem ?

For starters, you are nothing but a deplorable asshole dumbfuck. One of way too many that we have around here. Get off the fake-news FOX feed bag and try to catch up to 12-year olds in understanding reality.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: George Fucking Washington ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:48AM

Laws v Lawlessness Wrote:
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> The OP may have a point about the need for labor.
> However, nothing in the OP's argument provides an
> argument for lawlessness. Therefore, if there's a
> need for labor not met by current legal residents,
> increased legal immigration is the answer.
>
> If the OP think's my statement is in error, the OP
> is free to provide economic justifications for
> turning us from a nation of laws to a nation of
> lawlessness.


Millions of laws are broken every single day. It is up to our justice system to decide were enforcement efforts are made and not made. In case you have not noticed Immigration laws are enforced less than 5% of the time. That is because the educated and intelligent citizens of this country realize that undocumented Americans are a benefit to our economy.
Meanwhile, ignorant fucks like you go around complaining about MS13 and shit. The reality is that only a tiny percentage of these immigrants engage in violent gang behavior. That tiny percentage is deserving of some law enforcement efforts while the 95+% of these immigrants only benefit The USA and need to be left alone. People like you are simply blinded by hate, ignorance and cowardice.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: For the record.., ()
Date: September 22, 2018 11:59AM

The smart people create sanctuary areas to protect worthwhile people from the stupid bullshit notions of nowhere near worthwhile people.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: For the record... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 12:27PM

Of the 61,529 criminal cases filed by federal prosecutors; 40 percent or 24,746 were in court districts along the southern borders of California, Arizona and Texas.

The Western District of Texas had the nation’s most significant crime rate with over 6,300 cases filed; followed by the Southern District of Texas with slightly over 6,000 cases.

The Southern California District with nearly 4,900 cases; New Mexico with nearly 4,000 cases and Arizona with over 3,500 criminal cases ranked 3rd, 4th and 5th.

The U.S. Department of Justice documents that in 2014, 19 percent or over 12,000 criminal cases filed by prosecutors were for violent crimes; and over 22 percent or 13,300 cases were for drug related felonies.

That same year, the U.S. Sentencing Commission found that 75 percent of all criminal defendants who were convicted and sentenced for federal drug offenses were illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants were also involved in 17 percent of all drug trafficking sentences and one third of all federal prison sentences.

The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that as of 2014, illegal immigrants were convicted and sentenced for over 13 percent of all crimes committed in the U.S.

According to the FBI, 67,642 murders were committed in the U.S. from 2005 through 2008, and 115,717 from 2003 through 2009. The General Accounting Office documents that criminal immigrants committed 25,064 of these murders.

Illegal immigrants clearly commit a level of violent and drug related crimes disproportionate to their population.

In California alone, over 2,400 illegal immigrants out of a total prison population of 130,000 are imprisoned in the state’s prison system for the crime of homicide.

The misrepresentation of comparisons in who commits crimes between illegal immigrants, legal U.S. immigrants and American citizens

The pro-illegal immigrant lobby consistently misrepresents the criminal involvement of illegal immigrants as compared to immigrants who legally enter the U.S. and American citizens, saying that illegal immigrants commit less crimes than their counterparts. This assertion is false in most cases. Here are the vetted statistics:

In California, there are just over 92 illegal immigrants imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals as compared to 74 citizens and legal non-citizen immigrants. In Arizona, the rate is nearly 69 illegals imprisoned for every 100,000, as compared to 54 citizens and legal non-citizen immigrants.

In New York, over three times as many illegal immigrants or 169, are imprisoned for crimes per 100,000, as compared to only 48 citizens and legal non-citizen immigrants. Only the states of Texas and Florida do illegal immigrants commit less crimes than their legal immigrant counterparts (Texas with 54.5 illegals imprisoned per 100,000, compared to 65 legal immigrants and Florida with 55 illegals imprisoned, compared to 68 legal immigrants).

Texas is an epicenter for illegal immigrant crimes

Recent crime analysis by both the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Texas law enforcement authorities indicate that between June 2011 and March 2017, over 217,000 criminal immigrants were arrested and booked into Texas jails.

In researching the criminal careers of these defendants, it was revealed that they had jointly committed over nearly 600,000 criminal offenses. Their arrests included nearly 1,200 homicides; almost 69,000 assaults; 16,854 burglaries; 700 kidnappings; nearly 6,200 sexual assaults; 69,000 drug offenses; 8,700 weapons violations; over 3,800 robberies and over 45,000 obstructing police charges. In determining the status of these offenders in the U.S., it was confirmed by DHS that over 173,000 or 66 percent of these immigrant criminal defendants were in our country illegally at the times of their arrests.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Bigots suck... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 12:38PM

Native-born residents committed crimes at much higher rates.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: GDP is important ()
Date: September 22, 2018 01:58PM

The GDP added by illegals easily surpasses whatever social costs their taxes do not pay for. They are a bargain, without question.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: landlord2 ()
Date: September 22, 2018 02:00PM

I own several townhouses in Manassas and one in Centreville. I much prefer to rent to illegals, they make very good tenants and they usually pay on time with cash or money order.
I have had bad experiences with white and black citizens. Illegals have pad off two mortgages for me completely and a third one will be paid in 2020.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Brown Onion ()
Date: September 22, 2018 03:14PM

landlord2 Wrote:
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> I own several townhouses in Manassas and one in
> Centreville. I much prefer to rent to illegals,
> they make very good tenants and they usually pay
> on time with cash or money order.
> I have had bad experiences with white and black
> citizens. Illegals have pad off two mortgages for
> me completely and a third one will be paid in
> 2020.

You're enabling these locusts.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stupid waste... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 03:59PM

Leave if you don’t like it, dipshit. Nobody would miss a loser-ass dumbfuck like you.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Brown Onion ()
Date: September 22, 2018 04:11PM

Stupid waste... Wrote:
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> Leave if you don’t like it, dipshit. Nobody
> would miss a loser-ass dumbfuck like you.


Says someone who never served

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stupid waste ()
Date: September 22, 2018 04:27PM

You bring nothing but half-assed trash to the table. Useless.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Plain Truth ()
Date: September 22, 2018 04:44PM

A recent study by Yale University revealed there are presently two illegals for every piece of fruit in America.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Correct the record... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 05:30PM

GDP is important Wrote:
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> The GDP added by illegals easily surpasses
> whatever social costs their taxes do not pay for.
> They are a bargain, without question.


Bullshit. Especially bullshit for lower skilled workers who must compete with them for jobs. And considering that GDP includes the money required to support them, to deal with increased crime, jails, etc., it's not a real good measure to begin with. It does greatly benefit the GDP of Mexico and Central American countries which receive significant percentages of their GDP from remittances sent out of the country and also to offload their social costs onto us.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Correct the record... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 05:31PM

Which of course is why they encourage and facilitate their citizens coming here.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Wow... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 05:35PM

You don’t know shit about economic statistics. But like a typical assfuck, you‘ll try to babble on anyway. What a dope.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Correct the record... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 06:05PM

Wow... Wrote:
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> You don’t know shit about economic statistics.
> But like a typical assfuck, you‘ll try to babble
> on anyway. What a dope.


Yeah, actually I do. Which is why you couldn't pass off the weak GDP contribution bullshit. Economic activity is activity, not necessarily positive, beneficial economic activity.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Go play in traffic ()
Date: September 22, 2018 06:26PM

You know less than crap. GDP is by disposition. It represents what we all have to divvy up. Way more of that comes from illegals than what they cost in net social service outlays. Go back to school. Pay attention this time.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: bobjones ()
Date: September 22, 2018 07:17PM

Posted by: Go play in traffic ()
Date: September 22, 2018 06:26PM

You know less than crap. GDP is by disposition. It represents what we all have to divvy up. Way more of that comes from illegals than what they cost in net social service outlays. Go back to school. Pay attention this time.

^^You sir or ma'am are a delusional idiot. Nothing else I've heard could be further from the truth.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Bruce S ()
Date: September 22, 2018 07:37PM

Foreman said these jobs are going boys and they ain't coming back.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Go play in traffic ()
Date: September 22, 2018 08:10PM

bobjones Wrote:
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> ^^You sir or ma'am are a delusional idiot. Nothing else
> I've heard could be further from the truth.

I just have four more decades working with the NIPA data than you do. Go play in some more traffic, pinhead.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Correct the record... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 08:26PM

Go play in traffic Wrote:
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> bobjones Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -
> > ^^You sir or ma'am are a delusional idiot.
> Nothing else
> > I've heard could be further from the truth.
>
> I just have four more decades working with the
> NIPA data than you do. Go play in some more
> traffic, pinhead.


And yet here you are trying to pass off weak shit like GDP contribution. Deliberate deception just makes it worse. Sounds good though.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: hnpj3 ()
Date: September 22, 2018 08:31PM


DROP DEAD

illegal aliens are used by corrup politicians to stay in power


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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Go play in traffic ()
Date: September 22, 2018 08:36PM

Correct the record... Wrote:
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> Go play in traffic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > bobjones Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -
> > > ^^You sir or ma'am are a delusional idiot.
> > Nothing else
> > > I've heard could be further from the truth.
> >
> > I just have four more decades working with the
> > NIPA data than you do. Go play in some more
> > traffic, pinhead.
>
>
> And yet here you are trying to pass off weak shit
> like GDP contribution. Deliberate deception just
> makes it worse. Sounds good though.

Sorry it all went right over your head, dope. You are now officially outed as a serial NIPA know-nothing.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Logic Dude ()
Date: September 22, 2018 09:52PM

So far no one has shown why illegal aliens are better for this nation than legal aliens.

The OP started out saying we needed the labor force. That labor force can be met either by illegals or by increasing the number of legal aliens.

So, will someone explain why illegal aliens are preferable to legal aliens?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Correct the record... ()
Date: September 22, 2018 09:56PM

Go play in traffic Wrote:
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> Correct the record... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Go play in traffic Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > bobjones Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -
> > > > ^^You sir or ma'am are a delusional idiot.
> > > Nothing else
> > > > I've heard could be further from the truth.
> > >
> > > I just have four more decades working with
> the
> > > NIPA data than you do. Go play in some more
> > > traffic, pinhead.
> >
> >
> > And yet here you are trying to pass off weak
> shit
> > like GDP contribution. Deliberate deception
> just
> > makes it worse. Sounds good though.
>
> Sorry it all went right over your head, dope. You
> are now officially outed as a serial NIPA
> know-nothing.

I know that the and that the benefits of their "GDP contribution" aren't distributed evenly and accrue primarily to employers and others at the top and to the illegals themselves. And to those in their home countries receiving billions/year in remittances. To the great disadvantage of US workers and wages, particularly mid- to lower-skilled workers. Around a $500 billion/year transfer to the former from the latter just on that basis alone.

And I know that what's counted in the overall GDP number includes economic activity that's required to support their presence here which while it contributes to the numeric total isn't necessarily positive beneficial activity.

So employers benefit, illegals benefit, their countries benefit greatly, and most everyone else pays the bill. And if you're so familiar with the data then you know that too. Which is why you only want to point to top line GDP.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Boo fn hoo ()
Date: September 22, 2018 10:01PM

Stupid douchebag... Wrote:
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> Brown Onion Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They do cause a need for more police and
> > corrections officers, due to their violent
> ways.
>
> Typically ignorant post from you, perhaps the
> dumbest and most pathetic of all posters on FFXU.
> In fact, legal and illegal immigrants each have
> lower crime and incarceration rates than the
> native-born. This is especially true with
> first-generation immigrants. No surprise though


Prove it..show valid research

We dont want ILLEGALS here. Period
Deport..DEPORT..DEPORT
> that you don't know that.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Kokoeej ()
Date: September 22, 2018 10:06PM

Stooges... Wrote:
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> GTFO! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Cheap pedicures for your nasty old feet aren't
> > worth the cost to the rest of us to support
> them
> > and their many kids.
>
> They pay all the same taxes that you do, buttfuck.
> They are typically nicer and smarter peoele as
> well.

Awwww! You are butt hurt...daddy and mommy sneak in and your embarassed, right?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Brown Onion ()
Date: September 22, 2018 10:22PM

Sharon Bulova has done quite well thanks to illegal aliens. She's one of them.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: motel maintenance man ()
Date: September 23, 2018 05:21AM

We have tried to hire Americans to clean the rooms at my motel but guess what? Americans are not worth a fuck when it comes to working! White people, black people are no different, Americans will not work hard. Hispanic people are honest and hardworking legal or not.
The Americans that will actually clean motel rooms are usually drug addicts who will not show up for work when they are supposed to and they steal shit all the time. We have to fire them the first two weeks.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Go play in traffic ()
Date: September 23, 2018 10:28AM

Correct the record... Wrote:
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> I know that the and that the benefits of their
> "GDP contribution" aren't distributed evenly and
> accrue primarily to employers and others at the
> top and to the illegals themselves. And to those
> in their home countries receiving billions/year
> in remittances.

You've messed up yet again. Private remittances are part of the balance of payments accounts, not the GDP accounts. Meanwhile, dollars anywhere are a claim on the US economy. If they are spent here, they are an increase in personal consumption expenditures which boosts GDP. If they are spent abroad, they are an increase in net exports which boosts GDP.

> And I know that what's counted in the overall GDP
> number includes economic activity that's required
> to support their presence here which while it
> contributes to the numeric total isn't necessarily
> positive beneficial activity.

Like what? Come on with your tired-ass schools, hospitals, and first responders nonsense. Do it -- make yourself look even dumber than you do already.

> So employers benefit, illegals benefit, their
> countries benefit greatly, and most everyone else
> pays the bill.

Everyone benefits, dummy. You just don't understand how or why. That's a shortcoming on your part.

< And if you're so familiar with the data then you
> know that too. Which is why you only want to point
> to top line GDP.

Yes, I am quite familiar with the data and you don't yet know the first thing about any of it. You just babble on about delusional trash that you have sucked up on some phony anti-immigrant website. You owe it to yourself to do a lot better than that.

The plain economic facts of the matter are that whether legal or illegal, immigrant contributions to GDP far outweigh any net social services costs that they might bring. This is so clear that it isn't really a question in the minds of serious people.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stupid douchebag... ()
Date: September 23, 2018 10:41AM

Boo fn hoo Wrote:
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> > In fact, legal and illegal immigrants each have
> > lower crime and incarceration rates than the
> > native-born. This is especially true with
> > first-generation immigrants. No surprise though

> Prove it..show valid research

Here ya go, assho'...
.
Attachments:
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: ^^ STUPID GRAPH^^^ ()
Date: September 23, 2018 10:57AM

As a total number, there are more native-born Americans than illegals, something like 250 to 300 million to 20 million. Of course the numbers will be higher, there is a larger pool of native-born Americans.

Now compare as a percentage of population, that is where you get a look at what's really happening. This graph is like the argument that since 55% of welfare benefits go to white people and 45% go to blacks that whites use more welfare, case closed. Yes, but if you compare the % of population of both groups, whites use far less as a whole then blacks, blacks use about twice as much.

Also, Cato Institute? Open-borders libertarians who bow to the corporate masters of the Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street. It is pricks like these who got us into this mess with their bastardization of libertarian thought.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Brown Onion ()
Date: September 23, 2018 10:59AM

Go play in traffic Wrote:
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> Correct the record... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I know that the and that the benefits of their
> > "GDP contribution" aren't distributed evenly
> and
> > accrue primarily to employers and others at the
> > top and to the illegals themselves. And to
> those
> > in their home countries receiving
> billions/year
> > in remittances.
>
> You've messed up yet again. Private remittances
> are part of the balance of payments accounts, not
> the GDP accounts. Meanwhile, dollars anywhere are
> a claim on the US economy. If they are spent
> here, they are an increase in personal consumption
> expenditures which boosts GDP. If they are spent
> abroad, they are an increase in net exports which
> boosts GDP.
>
> > And I know that what's counted in the overall
> GDP
> > number includes economic activity that's
> required
> > to support their presence here which while it
> > contributes to the numeric total isn't
> necessarily
> > positive beneficial activity.
>
> Like what? Come on with your tired-ass schools,
> hospitals, and first responders nonsense. Do it
> -- make yourself look even dumber than you do
> already.
>
> > So employers benefit, illegals benefit, their
> > countries benefit greatly, and most everyone
> else
> > pays the bill.
>
> Everyone benefits, dummy. You just don't
> understand how or why. That's a shortcoming on
> your part.
>
> < And if you're so familiar with the data then you
>
> > know that too. Which is why you only want to
> point
> > to top line GDP.
>
> Yes, I am quite familiar with the data and you
> don't yet know the first thing about any of it.
> You just babble on about delusional trash that you
> have sucked up on some phony anti-immigrant
> website. You owe it to yourself to do a lot
> better than that.
>
> The plain economic facts of the matter are that
> whether legal or illegal, immigrant contributions
> to GDP far outweigh any net social services costs
> that they might bring. This is so clear that it
> isn't really a question in the minds of serious
> people.

Too long. Stop being pretty with your words and stick to the facts. If illegal immigration is beneficial why do no other countries want it?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stupid douchebag... ()
Date: September 23, 2018 11:21AM

^^ STUPID GRAPH^^^ Wrote:
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> As a total number, there are more native-born Americans than 1
> illegals, something like 250 to 300 million to 20 million. Of
> course the numbers will be higher, there is a larger pool of
> native-born Americans.

God, are you dumb! The graph was drawn in terms of RATES PER 100,000 POPULATION. It said so right on it. An imbecile would have seen that, and only an imbecile would try to continue the claims that the graph simply obliterates.

Whether legal or illegal, immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than the native-born. End of story.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Go play in traffic ()
Date: September 23, 2018 11:30AM

Brown Onion Wrote:
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> Too long. Stop being pretty with your words and
> stick to the facts. If illegal immigration is
> beneficial why do no other countries want it?

What you mean is that you are too fucking dumb to have understood any of it, and with that, I will certainly not disagree.

Meanwhile, having a nearby pool of young, healthy, willing and able workers is one of the things that separates the US from other aging economies such as China, Japan, Korea, and the big names of Old Europe. We are the fortunate ones here, and the ones that those other places envy.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Plain Truth ()
Date: September 23, 2018 12:10PM

How would the graph chart look with niggers removed from the equation? Now reorder the chart by including niggers with immigrants both legal and illegal and get back to us with the results.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: v4hn7 ()
Date: September 23, 2018 12:22PM

Stupid douchebag... Wrote:
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> Boo fn hoo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > In fact, legal and illegal immigrants each
> have
> > > lower crime and incarceration rates than the
> > > native-born. This is especially true with
> > > first-generation immigrants. No surprise
> though
>
> > Prove it..show valid research
>
> Here ya go, assho'...
> .


So you're saying that illegals add to crime and at a rate 2 to 5 times greater than legal immigrants.

Good job.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Phil Intheblanks ()
Date: September 23, 2018 01:13PM

Brown Onion Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Go play in traffic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Correct the record... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I know that the and that the benefits of
> their
> > > "GDP contribution" aren't distributed evenly
> > and
> > > accrue primarily to employers and others at
> the
> > > top and to the illegals themselves. And to
> > those
> > > in their home countries receiving
> > billions/year
> > > in remittances.
> >
> > You've messed up yet again. Private
> remittances
> > are part of the balance of payments accounts,
> not
> > the GDP accounts. Meanwhile, dollars anywhere
> are
> > a claim on the US economy. If they are spent
> > here, they are an increase in personal
> consumption
> > expenditures which boosts GDP. If they are
> spent
> > abroad, they are an increase in net exports
> which
> > boosts GDP.
> >
> > > And I know that what's counted in the overall
> > GDP
> > > number includes economic activity that's
> > required
> > > to support their presence here which while it
> > > contributes to the numeric total isn't
> > necessarily
> > > positive beneficial activity.
> >
> > Like what? Come on with your tired-ass
> schools,
> > hospitals, and first responders nonsense. Do
> it
> > -- make yourself look even dumber than you do
> > already.
> >
> > > So employers benefit, illegals benefit, their
> > > countries benefit greatly, and most everyone
> > else
> > > pays the bill.
> >
> > Everyone benefits, dummy. You just don't
> > understand how or why. That's a shortcoming on
> > your part.
> >
> > < And if you're so familiar with the data then
> you
> >
> > > know that too. Which is why you only want to
> > point
> > > to top line GDP.
> >
> > Yes, I am quite familiar with the data and you
> > don't yet know the first thing about any of it.
>
> > You just babble on about delusional trash that
> you
> > have sucked up on some phony anti-immigrant
> > website. You owe it to yourself to do a lot
> > better than that.
> >
> > The plain economic facts of the matter are that
> > whether legal or illegal, immigrant
> contributions
> > to GDP far outweigh any net social services
> costs
> > that they might bring. This is so clear that
> it
> > isn't really a question in the minds of serious
> > people.
>
> Too long. Stop being pretty with your words and
> stick to the facts. If illegal immigration is
> beneficial why do no other countries want it?


Because we are stuck in a growth based economy. If we stop growing we go into a recession and eventually a depression.
Undocumented Americans are just our latest round of servants. In the past we used the Irish, Blacks, Chinese.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The Dixie Wigger ()
Date: September 23, 2018 01:21PM

>I own several townhouses in Manassasd in

There only thing that's the truth is you voted for Hillary and proved it

If was not a welfare system here that's so generous thanks to Democrats, legal immigration would be at a trickle and illegals would come and go in the shadows like they should with no assistance drivers licenses nothing, go home and come back legally

Never Vote For A Democrat your seeing live and clear what they have done to this country and are doing it with their Dirty Tricks

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Spot the loonies... ()
Date: September 23, 2018 01:29PM

^^^ Paranoid dropout assfucks who can’t compete anywhere at all. Not even here.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The Dixie Wigger ()
Date: September 23, 2018 01:31PM

>We have tried to hire Americans to clean the rooms at my motel but guess what? Americans are not worth a fuck when it comes to working!

The same generous Democrat welfare system that attract others to crowd here, is the same generous Democrat welfare system that creates lazy people too, reduce the welfare and stop a lot of it, the lazy will either get off their asses and work or they will starve or they will commit crimes get caught go to prison or commit crimes get shot and buried or they will starve.

Do you know how many people on welfare are grossly overweight on the free dime from taxpayers pockets

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The Dixie Wigger ()
Date: September 23, 2018 01:34PM

>^^^ Paranoid dropout assfucks who can’t compete anywhere at all. Not even here.

You don't have shit to say, your sayings mean nothing because all know your full of shit with your attempts to cut down

Debate talking points shithead , you cant you don't have the intelligence to do that nor any real policies that will work, your A DEMOCRAT that's why

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Contractor6 ()
Date: September 23, 2018 01:41PM

Back when the new home building boom was on I made a shitload of money off illegals. So much so that I am now comfortably retired. I love Illegals!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Spot the loonies... ()
Date: September 23, 2018 01:43PM

One of the indisputable things that I have say here is that you are an uneducated asshole who doesn't know shit from shinola but keeps making a total ass of himself here anyway. You are just plain dumbfuck stupid, and that’s a fact.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Unemployed black man ()
Date: September 23, 2018 02:01PM

Spot the loonies... Wrote:
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> ^^^ Paranoid dropout assfucks who can’t compete
> anywhere at all. Not even here.


It's mostly me and legal immigrants who are competing with illegals.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: pif ()
Date: September 23, 2018 02:21PM

Spot the loonies... Wrote:
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> One of the indisputable things that I have say
> here is that you are an uneducated asshole who
> doesn't know shit from shinola but keeps making a
> total ass of himself here anyway. You are just
> plain dumbfuck stupid, and that’s a fact.


says the proven ignorant fuck and coward.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Spot the loonies... ()
Date: September 23, 2018 02:29PM

^^^ You mean one of the few prople here who can actually read a graph.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: jj the hand ()
Date: September 23, 2018 02:51PM

I earn 80k a year under the table and still get the ebt card and free medical care. White people owe me because of slavery.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Sheesh... ()
Date: September 23, 2018 02:57PM

^^^ Another 8th grader has weighed in. What an asshole.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Weekly Reader ()
Date: September 23, 2018 03:06PM

Spot the loonies... Wrote:
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> ^^^ You mean one of the few prople here who can
> actually read a graph.


Did you read the part where it says that illegals add to crime and at a rate 2 to 5 times greater than legal immigrants?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The Dixie Wigger ()
Date: September 23, 2018 03:09PM

Spot the loonies...

Its just "West Falls Church and Vienna guy", pay him no mind he thinks he has one, he does not. If he does try to post any facts see how fast he's shut down again

Right LOL... Go ahead post some Democrat "facts" how great illegals are from their playbook of lies

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Spot the loonies... ()
Date: September 23, 2018 03:20PM

The thread is turning into a catalog of all that the assholes do not know or understand. The truth is that whether legal or not, immigrants are involved in crime at rates below that of the native- born.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Unintended Consequences ()
Date: September 23, 2018 04:57PM

Spot the loonies... Wrote:
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> The thread is turning into a catalog of all that
> the assholes do not know or understand. The truth
> is that whether legal or not, immigrants are
> involved in crime at rates below that of the
> native- born.


Your chart shows that illegals add to crime and at a rate 2 to 5 times greater than legal immigrants. Within the population of TX that would be about an added +800 murder convictions/year.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Numbers don’t lie ()
Date: September 23, 2018 05:01PM

It’s these native-born varmints that do all the crime and killing. Hate the native-born!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The Dixie Wigger ()
Date: September 23, 2018 05:48PM

>The truth is that whether legal or not, immigrants are involved in crime at rates below that of the native- born.

Ill agree with that , now what about the illegals, don't you dare call them undocumented immigrants there not. They are Illegally here and should be legally sent home to come back legally after they stand in line with all the others waiting their turn

By the fact they have illegally came into the USA makes them criminals right off the bat now what about their other crimes, tell us what ethnic group makes up the largest population in NOVA's jails

>Numbers don’t lie ()

Democrats lie and so does SHE SAID

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: VYPFW ()
Date: September 23, 2018 10:02PM

The Dixie Wigger Wrote:
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> >We have tried to hire Americans to clean the
> rooms at my motel but guess what? Americans are
> not worth a fuck when it comes to working!
>

We tried to hire Americans for $7.00/hour part time, no benefits, and would you believe no one wanted the job? Americans are so lazy!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The Dixie Wigger ()
Date: September 23, 2018 10:14PM

So do it yourself or go out of business 7 dollars an hour no bennies, that's a
good job in a Hong Kong sweat shop, do you make designer clothes ? Are Democrats your best customers do you pay taxes

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: [polpot ()
Date: September 24, 2018 01:17AM

I need to go to sleep now. I will check back in tomorrow.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Mango Mussolini!! ()
Date: September 24, 2018 06:39AM

Lawd Fairfax Wrote:
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> Illegals, cant live with them - cant live without
> them. lol.
>
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrants-us
> -economy-farm-workers-taxes/

Yes. Commit less crime and create more jobs.

Facts are hard for the triggered alt-right GOP MAGAs.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: fgsdfg ()
Date: September 24, 2018 07:39AM

If they're so essential to our economy, let's just make them slaves. Problem solved!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a farce ()
Date: September 24, 2018 07:57AM

The Dixie Wigger Wrote:
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> By the fact they have illegally came into the USA
> makes them criminals right off the bat...

The Grammar Police are out after you, Dumbo. You and so many of the unschooled and hideously illiterate right-wing.

Oh, and how many of the undocumented came to the US legally and just never went back home? How many of them have been here legally all along but at some point lost their papers or had them stolen?

More numbers -- two-thirds of the undocumented have been in the country for at least ten years. Just one in seven has been here for less than five years. These are hard-working everyday people in our communities. So very different from worthless scum-creeps like you.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: You're going to vouch for them? ()
Date: September 24, 2018 08:01AM

What a farce Wrote:
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> The Dixie Wigger Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > By the fact they have illegally came into the
> USA
> > makes them criminals right off the bat...
>
> The Grammar Police are out after you, Dumbo. You
> and so many of the unschooled and hideously
> illiterate right-wing.
>
> Oh, and how many of the undocumented came to the
> US legally and just never went back home? How
> many of them have been here legally all along but
> at some point lost their papers or had them
> stolen?
>
> More numbers -- two-thirds of the undocumented
> have been in the country for at least ten years.
> Just one in seven has been here for less than five
> years. These are hard-working everyday people in
> our communities. So very different from worthless
> scum-creeps like you.


You don't know who these illegals are and you don't know they are hardworking people.

A positive bias is still a bias. You are as bad as the guy who says they are all bad. Saying they are all good or all hardworking is just as stupid if not stupider.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a farce ()
Date: September 24, 2018 08:12AM

Get a life, moron. The numbers don't say 'they are all good.' They say that two thirds of them have been here for at least ten years. They are long term residents. Just the type that would be apt to have stable homes and jobs, go to church on Sunday, pay their taxes, and otherwise act as solid citizens even if they are not officially allowed to be one. You can go back to making a fool of yourself now, Dopey.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Haha you're a weak dude ()
Date: September 24, 2018 08:16AM

What a farce Wrote:
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> Get a life, moron. The numbers don't say 'they are
> all good.' They say that two thirds of them have
> been here for at least ten years. They are long
> term residents. Just the type that would be apt
> to have stable homes and jobs, go to church on
> Sunday, pay their taxes, and otherwise act as
> solid citizens even if they are not officially
> allowed to be one. You can go back to making a
> fool of yourself now, Dopey.


There are career criminals who've been in this country for a long time. Residency doesn't make a good citizen.

They deport people for heinous crimes all the time who have been here for years.

The point is you don't know who they are.

Not sure if your motivation is being a liberal Godly dogooder or you have a restaurant and don't like to pay very much, but you are fucking up the country.


You are doing the work of corporatist scum who want wage slaves.

You are weak.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a farce ()
Date: September 24, 2018 08:42AM

Truth is strong, but you don't want to have anything to do with truth. It scares you. Heck, the word 'undocumented" scares you.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The Dixie Wigger ()
Date: September 24, 2018 09:59AM

>Heck, the word 'undocumented"

Is "What a farce" Their Illegals, Illegals in the USA that came here Illegally

ILLEGALS and criminals by default as such

Go home come back legally, better yet stay there and built your own country up, there's no reason that a central American country with so many beautiful people with their ocean beaches to mountains, that the people should not be living in a paradise that no one would want to leave

The US should be waging full house war on the criminals keeping that from happening

Democrats still need the vote however

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: So fucking dumb... ()
Date: September 24, 2018 10:27AM

The Dixie Wigger Wrote:
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> Their Illegals, Illegals in the USA that came here Illegally.

Grammar Police have issued yet another warrant for your arrest. And if you were a whole lot smarter, you might have been smart enough to realize that large numbers of the undocumented in fact came here legally. But all that's apparently right over your head.

> Democrats still need the vote however

LOL! Only US citizens can register and vote in state and federal elections. The idea of large scale voter fraud by anyone is on a par with notions of large scale flying by pigs.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Unintended Consequences ()
Date: September 24, 2018 10:44AM

What a farce Wrote:
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> Get a life, moron. The numbers don't say 'they are
> all good.' They say that two thirds of them have
> been here for at least ten years. They are long
> term residents. Just the type that would be apt
> to have stable homes and jobs, go to church on
> Sunday, pay their taxes, and otherwise act as
> solid citizens even if they are not officially
> allowed to be one. You can go back to making a
> fool of yourself now, Dopey.


Your own data shows that illegals add to crime and at a rate 2 to 5 times greater than legal immigrants. Furthermore, their effect is additive on top of that of our native-born criminals. We don't need to be importing more.

The Cato data based on convictions also is misleading in the way that you're attempting to use it. It's based on convictions only and significantly under counts actual crimes. For example, in 2015 used as the basis there were about 1,300 murders in TX with only 785 convictions counted (many of which are not even within the same year as the murder itself). In the same year TX cleared by arrest or exceptional means only 20% of all tracked offenses reported. For violent crimes reported, only 42% cleared. Arrests of illegals also were substantially below that of natives at about 40% less. Considering that it's much easier to find, arrest, and convict a known vs unknown person and the nature of violent crime associated with illegal criminal activities where parties are more unknown, the actual rates likely are substantially higher. There also is not a one-to-one correlation between crime and conviction which may further reduce the percentage, e.g., you may have multiple convictions for a single murdered individual. Likewise, a single individual may be and typically are responsible for multiple crimes.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a farce ()
Date: September 24, 2018 10:55AM

^^^ You're nothing but a triggered right-wing asshole. The data are quite clear, but your brain is quite clouded. The facts are that whether legal or illegal, immigrants are involved in crime at rates that are lower than those for the native-born. All this Trump-slop about immigrant crime is total made up bunko bullshit intended to manipulate the weak-minded. Don't get caught up in manufactured crap like that.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Unintended Consequences ()
Date: September 24, 2018 11:36AM

What a farce Wrote:
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> ^^^ You're nothing but a triggered right-wing
> asshole. The data are quite clear, but your brain
> is quite clouded. The facts are that whether
> legal or illegal, immigrants are involved in crime
> at rates that are lower than those for the
> native-born. All this Trump-slop about immigrant
> crime is total made up bunko bullshit intended to
> manipulate the weak-minded. Don't get caught up
> in manufactured crap like that.


Sorry, your data doesn't show that. What it does show is that in TX in 2015, illegals were convicted of murder at a rate about 5X greater than legal immigrants.

It's also disputed by DOJ data showing that about 20% of inmates in federal prison are foreign-born with +90 percent being illegals. 24,476 of the 185,507 inmates in the federal Bureau of Prisons system were not citizens, 92% in the country unlawfully. Immigration status of another 21,209 other foreign-born people in federal custody is reported as yet undetermined (i.e., most likely not citizens). 97 percent of the 13,081 confirmed non-citizens held by the Marshals Service (typically people awaiting trial) were in the country unlawfully. All very far out of proportion to their representation in the population.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a farce ()
Date: September 24, 2018 11:54AM

Stupid douchebag is trying to work in the universe of the convicted. The point of course is over relative crime rates among everyone. The relevant data were posted above but have been predictably ignored by a few worthless dumb fucks.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stupid douchebag... sez wut? ()
Date: September 24, 2018 12:02PM

What a farce Wrote:
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> Stupid douchebag is trying to work in the universe
> of the convicted. The point of course is over
> relative crime rates among everyone. The relevant
> data were posted above but have been predictably
> ignored by a few worthless dumb fucks.


Your own data above relates only to convictions you 'Stupid douchebag...'

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a farce ()
Date: September 24, 2018 12:12PM

No, they deal with conviction RATES. You dipshits are simply too stupid to know the difference.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stupid douchebag... sez wut? ()
Date: September 24, 2018 12:23PM

What a farce Wrote:
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> No, they deal with conviction RATES. You dipshits
> are simply too stupid to know the difference.


Uh, no... You were whining about using convictions.

Quote

What a farce Wrote:
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> Stupid douchebag is trying to work in the universe
> of the convicted.

And I directly cited the rate in my post you 'Stupid douchebag...' so it's clear that I know the difference. Your data is for convictions only and does not support your own misuse beyond that.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a farce ()
Date: September 24, 2018 12:39PM

Go back and read the graph, dumbo. You won’t of course because all you are interested in now is finding some convoluted way of covering your rosy red ass.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: 'Stupid confused douchebag...' ()
Date: September 24, 2018 12:54PM

What a farce Wrote:
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> Go back and read the graph, dumbo. You won’t of
> course because all you are interested in now is
> finding some convoluted way of covering your rosy
> red ass.


I have read it. In particular where it says:

"Criminal conviction rates in TX, per 100,000 population, 2015"

'Stupid douchebag...'

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a farce ()
Date: September 24, 2018 01:04PM

Try reading that “per 100,000 population” part one more time. That’s the part that ties rates to the notion of everybody. It’s pretty plain, really. At least to most people.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: 'Stupid douchebag' circle jerk ()
Date: September 24, 2018 01:17PM

What a farce Wrote:
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> Try reading that “per 100,000 population” part
> one more time. That’s the part that ties rates
> to the notion of everybody. It’s pretty plain,
> really. At least to most people.


Uh, 'Stupid douchebag...' It's the rate of criminal conviction. Obviously it's per N population since that's the basis for the fucking rate you dumb fucker. It is NOT tied to the notion of "everybody" as you're trying to use it. It's only 'tied' to the rate of those CONVICTED. As I said clearly indicating that above and why that's misleading in terms of more broad use. And that it doesn't align with Federal prisoner data. And that even accepting your own bullshit it shows that illegals ADD to crime and at a RATE 2 to 5 times greater than legal immigrants.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a farce ()
Date: September 24, 2018 01:30PM

I’m sorry that you are so ignorant. It explains a lot though.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: 'Stupid douchebag' done ()
Date: September 24, 2018 01:33PM

What a farce Wrote:
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> I’m sorry that you are so ignorant. It explains
> a lot though.


I'm sorry that you're trying to misuse your own data.

Which btw says that illegals add to crime and at a rate 2 to 5 times greater than legal immigrants.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a farce ()
Date: September 24, 2018 02:16PM

You have no legs left to stand on, numbnuts. Whether legal or illegal, immigrants are involved in crime at lower rates than the native-born. End of story.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stupid douchebag' ()
Date: September 24, 2018 02:47PM

What a farce Wrote:
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> You have no legs left to stand on, numbnuts.
> Whether legal or illegal, immigrants are involved
> in crime at lower rates than the native-born. End
> of story.


Your data does not say that.

It says that they are convicted at a lower rate. It does not say anything about involvement with crime more generally. It does not reflect arrest rates. It does not reflect other alternative actions taken (e.g., removals). It does not reflect those who disappear before trial. Etc.

It does say that illegals are convicted of crimes and at a rate 2 to 5 times greater than legal immigrants

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: C. P. ()
Date: September 24, 2018 08:47PM

Stupid douchebag' Wrote:
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> What a farce Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You have no legs left to stand on, numbnuts.
> > Whether legal or illegal, immigrants are
> involved
> > in crime at lower rates than the native-born.
> End
> > of story.
>
>
> Your data does not say that.
>
> It says that they are convicted at a lower
> rate. It does not say anything about involvement
> with crime more generally. It does not reflect
> arrest rates. It does not reflect other
> alternative actions taken (e.g., removals). It
> does not reflect those who disappear before trial.
> Etc.
>
> It does say that illegals are convicted of crimes
> and at a rate 2 to 5 times greater than legal
> immigrants


^^ Coward post ^^

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: P.O.O. ()
Date: September 24, 2018 09:10PM

C. P. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Stupid douchebag' Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What a farce Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You have no legs left to stand on, numbnuts.
> > > Whether legal or illegal, immigrants are
> > involved
> > > in crime at lower rates than the native-born.
> > End
> > > of story.
> >
> >
> > Your data does not say that.
> >
> > It says that they are convicted at a
> lower
> > rate. It does not say anything about
> involvement
> > with crime more generally. It does not reflect
> > arrest rates. It does not reflect other
> > alternative actions taken (e.g., removals). It
> > does not reflect those who disappear before
> trial.
> > Etc.
> >
> > It does say that illegals are convicted of
> crimes
> > and at a rate 2 to 5 times greater than legal
> > immigrants
>
>
> ^^ Coward post ^^


^^ Stupid post ^^

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Brown Onion ()
Date: September 24, 2018 09:11PM

Can those who support the iguana eaters post their addresses and invite them over?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: dantana ()
Date: September 26, 2018 05:16AM

C. P. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Stupid douchebag' Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What a farce Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You have no legs left to stand on, numbnuts.
> > > Whether legal or illegal, immigrants are
> > involved
> > > in crime at lower rates than the native-born.
> > End
> > > of story.
> >
> >
> > Your data does not say that.
> >
> > It says that they are convicted at a
> lower
> > rate. It does not say anything about
> involvement
> > with crime more generally. It does not reflect
> > arrest rates. It does not reflect other
> > alternative actions taken (e.g., removals). It
> > does not reflect those who disappear before
> trial.
> > Etc.
> >
> > It does say that illegals are convicted of
> crimes
> > and at a rate 2 to 5 times greater than legal
> > immigrants
>
>
> ^^ Coward post ^^


Cowards gotta cower!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: cbn ()
Date: September 30, 2018 03:58PM


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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Send'emAllBack ()
Date: September 30, 2018 04:49PM

cbn Wrote:
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> Proof that we all desperately need the illegals
>
> https://abcnews.go.com/US/immigrants-us-economy-d
> isaster-experts/story?id=45533028

Bullshit.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: AARPer ()
Date: September 30, 2018 09:50PM

Americans won't do the work. Too lazy and too used to having everything handed to them by their parents. If you stop the import of cheap labor good republican small business owners will crumble. These people know they own us. They build your buildings make your beds and mow your lawns. They come her for 10 or 12 years and make enough money to go back home and live happily ever after. It's your own fault America so suck it!
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: No deplorables need apply ()
Date: October 01, 2018 08:59AM

It's all about economics. It's good if you have oil. It's good if you have rich farmland. It's good if you have a young, healthy workforce. With white fertility being what it's been, immigrants are our life preserver here.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The dumb just keeps on coming ()
Date: October 01, 2018 11:56AM

Stupid douchebag' Wrote:
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> Your data does not say that. It says that they are
> convicted at a lower rate. It does not say
> anything about involvement

The data do indeed say that, as being acquitted of a crime is exculpatory.

> It does say that illegals are convicted of crimes and
> at a rate 2 to 5 times greater than legal immigrants.

And how much LESS than the native-born did you say?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: what a whiff ()
Date: October 01, 2018 02:37PM

You obviously aren't intelligent enough to understand that many crimes and criminals are not prosecuted.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The dumb just keeps on coming ()
Date: October 01, 2018 03:44PM

Lol! Data say you are stupid.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: strike two ()
Date: October 01, 2018 03:55PM

Data doesn't say anything, but it does confirm you're an idiot.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: diverse1 ()
Date: October 17, 2018 05:34PM

cbn Wrote:
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> Proof that we all desperately need the illegals
>
> https://abcnews.go.com/US/immigrants-us-economy-d
> isaster-experts/story?id=45533028


Exactly!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: falsies ()
Date: October 17, 2018 05:56PM

The dumb just keeps on coming Wrote:
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> Stupid douchebag' Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your data does not say that. It says that they
> are
> > convicted at a lower rate. It does not
> say
> > anything about involvement
>
> The data do indeed say that, as being acquitted of
> a crime is exculpatory.


It doesn't say anything about acquittals. It doesn't say anything about arrests. It doesn't say how many are not found or don't show up for trial.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: gated driveway ()
Date: October 18, 2018 07:35AM

Illegals mow my lawn and do the landscaping. They seem nice!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Arm's-length transactions ()
Date: October 18, 2018 08:40AM

For many (but not all), there comes a time when you have more money than interest in doing yard work and other household chores. That's when you start looking around for crews to take care of such things for you. Homeowners don't even try to tell who's legal and who's not (you can't do that either), so folks are basically just running sanctuary households in going simply on a basis of recommendations from friends and neighbors. The crew that my electrician sent over last week to install new LED lighting systems in my kitchen was all Hispanic. Legal? How should I know? Why should I care? They did a great job, so I'm quite happy. I hope they are as well.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Try, try again... ()
Date: October 18, 2018 09:22AM

When all else fails (and it has), throw your hands up in despair. Meanwhile...
.
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Trickle-down intelligence ()
Date: October 18, 2018 09:40AM

A survey of economists shows a consensus behind the view that high-skilled immigration makes the average American better off. A survey of the same economists also shows strong support behind the notion that low-skilled immigration makes the average American better off.

In a survey of the existing literature by Bodvarsson and Van den Berg, they wtite that, "a comparison of the evidence from all the studies... makes it clear that, with very few exceptions, there is no strong statistical support for the view held by many members of the public, namely that immigration has an adverse effect on native-born workers in the destination country."

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: George Fucking Washington ()
Date: December 09, 2018 10:23AM

The Dixie Wigger Wrote:
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> So with 350 million here we don't have enough
> people to pick fruit for all
>
> Then wash cars clean toilets mow grass for elitist
> Democrats who want to save a few dollars for each
> service rendered
>
> Slam that border door closed, no more immigrants
> legal or not that cant make their keep
>
> America First
>
> Whats The Problem ?

Just try it. The laws are already in place. Have you ever wondered why those laws are enforced less than 10% of the time? Anyone with half a brain knows that the undocumented Americans are vital to our economy.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Alternate reality ()
Date: December 09, 2018 10:54AM

These downscale dumbfucks live in a different world, one in which the worst sorts of utter nonsense can some to carry the day. Remember all those 'WMD' that Saddam was supposed to have? The dummies bought such things then, and they stand in line to buy them now. It's just pathetic.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Back in the real world ()
Date: December 09, 2018 01:45PM

Alternate reality Wrote:
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> These downscale dumbfucks live in a different
> world, one in which the worst sorts of utter
> nonsense can some to carry the day. Remember all
> those 'WMD' that Saddam was supposed to have? The
> dummies bought such things then, and they stand in
> line to buy them now. It's just pathetic.


By your own admission, you've got a downscale dumfuck dummy running the Trump/Russia "collusion" investigation.

Bob Mueller:
"Iraq's WMD program poses a clear threat to our national security, a threat that will certainly increase in the event of future military action against Iraq. Baghdad has the capability and, we presume, the will to use biological, chemical, or radiological weapons against US domestic targets in the event of a US invasion."

"Baghdad has failed to disarm its weapons of mass destruction, willfully attempting to evade and deceive the international community. Our particular concern is that Saddam may supply al-Qaeda with biological, chemical, or radiological material before or during a war with the US to avenge the fall of his regime. Although divergent political goals limit al-Qaeda's cooperation with Iraq, northern Iraq has emerged as an increasingly important operational base for al-Qaeda associates, and a US-Iraq war could prompt Baghdad to more directly engage al-Qaeda."

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Alternate reality ()
Date: December 10, 2018 10:44AM

Back in the real world Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> By your own admission, you've got a downscale dumfuck dummy
> running the Trump/Russia "collusion" investigation.

No, the downscale dumbfuck dummy in the room is still you, as the forced and tormented song-and-dance of your bilious post only serves to confirm.

> Bob Mueller:
> "Iraq's WMD program poses a clear threat to our
> national security, a threat that will certainly
> increase in the event of future military action
> against Iraq. Baghdad has the capability and, we
> presume, the will to use biological, chemical, or
> radiological weapons against US domestic targets
> in the event of a US invasion."

In February 2003 -- less than a week after Colin Powell's dog-and-pony show web of outright lies delivered to the United Nations -- Robert Mueller was testifying to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence as Director of the FBI, a DOMESTIC agency. Coming less than six weeks prior to the actual and ill-fated Invasion of Iraq, layers of Bushie bubble-wrap were required to be part of his formal statement. His actually relevant comments would have been those over the standing up of Joint Terrorism Task Force operations in cooperation with various state and local law enforcement agencies along with those assuring that the FBI was busy doing all it could to identify and disrupt foreign and domestic terrorist cells hiding and operating on US soil. That sort of thing was within the FBI's actual purview.

> "Baghdad has failed to disarm its weapons of mass
> destruction, willfully attempting to evade and
> deceive the international community. Our particular
> concern is that Saddam may supply al-Qaeda with
> biological, chemical, or radiological material before
> or during a war with the US to avenge the fall of his
> regime. Although divergent political goals limit
> al-Qaeda's cooperation with Iraq, northern Iraq has
> emerged as an increasingly important operational base
> for al-Qaeda associates, and a US-Iraq war could
> prompt Baghdad to more directly engage al-Qaeda."

LOL! Like some Michael O'Keefe "Veritas" video, the statement above has been altered to make it appear that it was actually Robert Mueller behind it. In their true and actual context, the words had instead been introduced as a summary of what Colin Powell had said just a few days earlier in his plain-as-day phony claims at the UN -- the ones that Hans Blix at the time called 'pretty flimsy.' But never let the facts get in the way of your FOX-like propaganda, eh pinhead?

The bottom line here is that you are just another lying right-wing stumblebum with no capacity or fealty with respect to fact or reason at all. Just the sort of downscale partisan stooge who would easily have been taken in by the gross and patent crapola of WMD claims in the run-up to the GOP's self-inflicted disaster in Iraq. Congrats on having been such an intellectual failure back in the day, and on having not recovered from any of that at all over the many years since.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Liars Everywhere ()
Date: December 10, 2018 11:11AM

An illegal's VERY first act in America is to disrespect our laws. And to be selfish: there are people waiting all over the world to lawfully come to the US; and illegal says: "F that - I'm jumping the line." That right there tells you something.

The graph posted above is total nonsense and the first clue is the use of the word "undocumented." Anyone who calls an illegal immigrant "undocumented" has an open borders agenda by definition. Second that graph was prepared by the CATO institute which is a owned and operated subsidiary of the US Chamber of Commerce which is for open borders. Third, that graph is based on an assumption as to the number of illegals there are in Texas but doesn't support that number.

Another lie: we can't afford to deport all of the illegals that are here. Bravo Sierra. Assume there are 30 million illegals (the lower numbers the media tosses around are clear Bravo Sierra). You can bus anyone in this country to Mejico for less than $300 on commercial buses. It would cost a LOT less than that with chock-full government buses. But let's use a ridiculous number like $1000 to really prove the point. for 30,000,000 illegals, that's only $30 billion dollars. About 5% of the defense budget for ONE year. EASILY affordable!

And actually, when you consider reduced prison costs, reduced unpaid emergency room and other medical expenses that the rest of us absorb, reduced ESOL expenses, reduced numbers of free or subsidized school lunches, etc., etc., getting rid of all of these illegals would be a HUGE financial boon to the rest of us. Except for Democrap politicians, who will miss all of their votes.

Kick them all the hell out of the country. Now.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Such a dope... ()
Date: December 10, 2018 11:23AM

To correct just one of your incredibly stupid errors, illegals can't vote.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: so much nonsense ()
Date: December 10, 2018 11:24AM

 
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: So fucking dumb... ()
Date: December 10, 2018 11:41AM

Why didn't you ever graduate from the 6th grade?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Liars Everywhere ()
Date: December 10, 2018 11:56AM

Such a dope... Wrote:
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> To correct just one of your incredibly stupid
> errors, illegals can't vote.

ROTFLMFAO!

Not only "can" they vote (and have they voted) in all kinds of elections, they can even LEGALLY vote in a growing number of municipal/local elections in various localities where they have passed laws to repeal the citizenship requirement for voting.


Like I said . . . liars everywhere.

It's impossible to keep track of the mountains of lies upon lies that you leftist open border advocates pile up in support of your agenda.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Such a dope... ()
Date: December 10, 2018 01:22PM

Liars Everywhere Wrote:
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> Not only "can" they vote (and have they voted) in
> all kinds of elections, they can even LEGALLY vote
> in a growing number of municipal/local elections
> in various localities where they have passed laws
> to repeal the citizenship requirement for voting.

You're merely ducking the point, you miserable little asshole. People like you should be purged from the voter rolls -- your stupid votes are ever a step backward for America.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Yet again... ()
Date: December 10, 2018 01:35PM

^^^ These idiots have no clue at all. They wallow in the ignorance of the right wing, spouting back bullshit without ever realizing how dumb it makes them look.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Liars Everywhere ()
Date: December 10, 2018 01:54PM

Such a dope... Wrote:
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> Liars Everywhere Wrote:

> You're merely ducking the point, you miserable
> little asshole. People like you should be purged
> from the voter rolls -- your stupid votes are ever
> a step backward for America.

I did not "duck" anything you colossally stupid motherfucker. You claimed that illegals cannot vote; I proved what a lying sack of monkey shit you are, since they definitely CAN vote. You could not dispute that, so you falsely accused me of "ducking the point" and resorted to ad hominems. So now I have bitch-slapped you again.

Now go ESAD, you un-American little piss-ant.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: back in the real world ()
Date: December 10, 2018 01:56PM

Alternate reality Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Back in the real world Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > By your own admission, you've got a downscale
> dumfuck dummy
> > running the Trump/Russia "collusion"
> investigation.
>
> No, the downscale dumbfuck dummy in the room is
> still you, as the forced and tormented
> song-and-dance of your bilious post only serves to
> confirm.
>
> > Bob Mueller:
> > "Iraq's WMD program poses a clear threat to our
> > national security, a threat that will certainly
> > increase in the event of future military action
> > against Iraq. Baghdad has the capability and,
> we
> > presume, the will to use biological, chemical,
> or
> > radiological weapons against US domestic
> targets
> > in the event of a US invasion."
>
> In February 2003 -- less than a week after Colin
> Powell's dog-and-pony show web of outright lies
> delivered to the United Nations -- Robert Mueller
> was testifying to the Senate Select Committee on
> Intelligence as Director of the FBI, a DOMESTIC
> agency. Coming less than six weeks prior to the
> actual and ill-fated Invasion of Iraq, layers of
> Bushie bubble-wrap were required to be part of his
> formal statement. His actually relevant comments
> would have been those over the standing up of
> Joint Terrorism Task Force operations in
> cooperation with various state and local law
> enforcement agencies along with those assuring
> that the FBI was busy doing all it could to
> identify and disrupt foreign and domestic
> terrorist cells hiding and operating on US soil.
> That sort of thing was within the FBI's actual
> purview.
>
> > "Baghdad has failed to disarm its weapons of
> mass
> > destruction, willfully attempting to evade and
> > deceive the international community. Our
> particular
> > concern is that Saddam may supply al-Qaeda with
>
> > biological, chemical, or radiological material
> before
> > or during a war with the US to avenge the fall
> of his
> > regime. Although divergent political goals limit
>
> > al-Qaeda's cooperation with Iraq, northern Iraq
> has
> > emerged as an increasingly important operational
> base
> > for al-Qaeda associates, and a US-Iraq war
> could
> > prompt Baghdad to more directly engage
> al-Qaeda."
>
> LOL! Like some Michael O'Keefe "Veritas" video,
> the statement above has been altered to make it
> appear that it was actually Robert Mueller behind
> it. In their true and actual context, the words
> had instead been introduced as a summary of what
> Colin Powell had said just a few days earlier in
> his plain-as-day phony claims at the UN -- the
> ones that Hans Blix at the time called 'pretty
> flimsy.' But never let the facts get in the way
> of your FOX-like propaganda, eh pinhead?
>
> The bottom line here is that you are just another
> lying right-wing stumblebum with no capacity or
> fealty with respect to fact or reason at all.
> Just the sort of downscale partisan stooge who
> would easily have been taken in by the gross and
> patent crapola of WMD claims in the run-up to the
> GOP's self-inflicted disaster in Iraq. Congrats
> on having been such an intellectual failure back
> in the day, and on having not recovered from any
> of that at all over the many years since.


Poppycock. Mueller's own statements either prove he is a downscale dumbfuck dummy (according to you) or he is a perjurer. Pick one. Oh, and nice attempt to muddy the waters by pointing out that the FBI is a domestic organization. It's fucking irrelevant.

Accept it, your precious Bob Mueller is a downscale dumbfuck dummy or a perjurer.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Alternate reality ()
Date: December 10, 2018 02:13PM

Dude, you fucked up royally and got your worthless ass kIcked for it. Go cry to Mommy.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Such a dope..: ()
Date: December 10, 2018 02:22PM

Liars Everywhere Wrote:
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> Now go ESAD, you un-American little piss-ant.

Suck my dick, you useless two-bit asshole. Illegals can’t vote. Voter fraud is all but non-existent. Shove that up your sorry worn-out asshole.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: back in the real world ()
Date: December 10, 2018 02:50PM

Alternate reality Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Dude, you fucked up royally and got your worthless
> ass kIcked for it. Go cry to Mommy.


LOL! That weak ass response is all I need to confirm I thoroughly destroyed you. You're relying on a perjurer or a downscale dumbfuck dummy to prove the "collusion." You were too stupid to know the pile of shit you were stepping in when you brought up WMDs. Instead of smartly extricating your foot from the pile, you decided to jump all in an rub it all over yourself.


Looks like your the real dumb fuck here.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: ALL illegals OUT ()
Date: December 10, 2018 03:20PM

Illegals drive down wages among the citizens for whom a couple of dollars an hour more or less means the most. ALL illegals must GET OUT NOW.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Alternate reality ()
Date: December 10, 2018 03:53PM

back in the real world Wrote:
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> Looks like your the real dumb fuck here.

More loads of assfuck-stupid nonsense. You bought the Bush-43 crap back in the day, and you’ve bought the Trump crap of today. Could be that you are just a hopeless crap-swallower.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Such a dope... ()
Date: December 10, 2018 04:02PM

ALL illegals OUT Wrote:
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> Illegals drive down wages among the citizens for
> whom a couple of dollars an hour more or less
> means the most. ALL illegals must GET OUT NOW.

No, dumbass. The only cohort on which illegals have any effect at all is black high school dropouts, and the effect is minor. You could have known that.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: fortitude7 ()
Date: December 10, 2018 04:33PM

Much like 2nd amendment zealots people who hate undocumented Americans are quite simply scared of them. They are cowards.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: back in the real world ()
Date: December 10, 2018 04:52PM

Alternate reality Wrote:
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> back in the real world Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Looks like your the real dumb fuck here.
>
> More loads of assfuck-stupid nonsense. You bought
> the Bush-43 crap back in the day,

You have any proof of that? Of course you don't, you're a raging dipshit.

What there is proof of is that Bob Mueller is either a perjurer or a downscale dumbfuck dummy (according to you). Which is it?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Alternate reality ()
Date: December 10, 2018 05:55PM

You bought shit from Bush. You bought shit from Trump. You’re simply a dope.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: back in the real world ()
Date: December 10, 2018 07:51PM

Wrong again. All politicians lie. You’re just too stupid to understand that. You’re trudging way in your foolish binary world. Now, you’re hanging all your hopes on a person who, by your definition, is a downscale dumbfuck dummy or a perjurer. Either way, you lose. Loser.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Alternate reality ()
Date: December 10, 2018 08:36PM

Bush lies. Trump lies. The truly stupid bought into all of it. By the way, the SDNY sentencing documents have completely exhonorated Trump. Bank on it.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Number One Deplorable ()
Date: December 10, 2018 09:52PM

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Assholes.... ()
Date: December 11, 2018 12:51PM

Both of the statements referenced above were in fact TRUE. It's just the hopeless dumbfucks who doubt it, but none of them ever understood what was going on to begin with.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: wow, ur stupidity is amazing ()
Date: December 11, 2018 03:00PM

Assholes.... Wrote:
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> Both of the statements referenced above were in
> fact TRUE. It's just the hopeless dumbfucks who
> doubt it, but none of them ever understood what
> was going on to begin with.
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Biggest loser... ()
Date: December 11, 2018 03:51PM

^^^ In see you have nothing of any sense at all to say on these matters. Just another struck-dumb right-wing asshole. Like we don't see them by the dozen here every dingle day.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: back in the real world ()
Date: December 11, 2018 04:14PM

I never bought shit from Shrub. You're boy Bobby Mueller sure as hell did. That's why you labeled him a downscale dumbfuck dummy. Or, is he a perjurer? Which is it?

Fucking moron.

"Iraq's WMD program poses a clear threat to our national security."

This is a true statement?

"Baghdad has the capability and, we presume, the will to use biological, chemical, or radiological weapons."

This is a true statement?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Poor old man raging at the sun ()
Date: December 11, 2018 04:45PM

Biggest loser... Wrote:
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> ^^^ In see you have nothing of any sense at all to
> say on these matters. Just another struck-dumb
> right-wing asshole. Like we don't see them by the
> dozen here every dingle day.


What does "In see" and "dingle day" mean einstein? LOL

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: pablo8 ()
Date: December 11, 2018 05:01PM

ALL illegals OUT Wrote:
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> Illegals drive down wages among the citizens for
> whom a couple of dollars an hour more or less
> means the most. ALL illegals must GET OUT NOW.


Sorry men but we no going anywhere. Maybe you can try to make us leave huh?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Iron Will ()
Date: December 13, 2018 04:02AM

fortitude7 Wrote:
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> Much like 2nd amendment zealots people who hate
> undocumented Americans are quite simply scared of
> them. They are cowards.


Conservatives in general are cowards.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: LetsRock ()
Date: December 13, 2018 08:35AM

Stupid douchebag... Wrote:
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> Brown Onion Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They do cause a need for more police and
> > corrections officers, due to their violent
> ways.
>
> Typically ignorant post from you, perhaps the
> dumbest and most pathetic of all posters on FFXU.
> In fact, legal and illegal immigrants each have
> lower crime and incarceration rates than the
> native-born. This is especially true with
> first-generation immigrants. No surprise though
> that you don't know that.


Crimes committed by illegals within the first 30 days of crossing the border:

1. Illegal entry into the US.
2. Identity theft of SS number to obtain a job
3. Tax evasion
4. Theft of services by getting treated by hospitals and not paying the bill
5. Falsifying documents to obtain a rental agreement or drivers license

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Worst in breed ()
Date: December 13, 2018 08:57AM

Pwople who are much worse for America than an illegal ---

All these dimbulb FOX-watching right-wing ASSHOLES. Every single one of them is deadweight loss to society -- a repulsive and unnecessary burden with intellectual capacities so low that they do no more than waste our precious air and water and time and space.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: LOL you sound smart ()
Date: December 13, 2018 09:02AM

Worst in breed Wrote:
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> Pwople who are much worse for America than an
> illegal ---
>
> All these dimbulb FOX-watching right-wing
> ASSHOLES. Every single one of them is deadweight
> loss to society -- a repulsive and unnecessary
> burden with intellectual capacities so low that
> they do no more than waste our precious air and
> water and time and space.

Big words! Big words!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Alternate reality ()
Date: December 13, 2018 10:28AM

back in the real world Wrote:
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> I never bought shit from Shrub.

Bwahahahaha! Dopes like you bought into Bush's WMD bit hook, line and sinker. All the really stupid people did, and you are nothing if not really stupid,. The regular folks were out there telling you what a hollow, sham message that was, but you stuck to your stupid-guns as a totally hapless moron.

> You're boy Bobby Mueller sure as hell did. That's why you labeled
> him a downscale dumbfuck dummy.

As a confirmed hook-line-and-sinker-swallower, it is YOU who is worse than the downscale dumbfuck dummy in the room, a fact that you for some unknown reason wish to continue demonstrating in spades. We've got to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here. We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. Does any of that worthless rubbish sound familiar to you, you pathetic little stupid shit? How about bringing the blessings of democracy to the Middle East? Remember when that was a #1 White House hit?

As for Mueller by the way, he's busy carving up this latest Republican ass-clown like a Thanksgiving turkey. You want cranberry sauce with that?

> Or, is he a perjurer? Which is it?

Dude, your "quotes" were poached and utter frauds for reasons you were just plain too stupid to recognize on your own, and seemingly also after having those reasons spelled out for you in detail just the other day. What a sorry-ass little dork-brained douchebag!

> "Iraq's WMD program poses a clear threat to our
> national security." This is a true statement?

Not at all. It's poorly founded political rhetoric and hyperbole. But mindless assholes like you bought into the bullshit anyway.

> "Baghdad has the capability and, we presume, the
> will to use biological, chemical, or radiological
> weapons." This is a true statement?

Not at all. It's even more poorly founded political rhetoric and hyperbole. And dull-brained unsophisticated loser-shits like you CONTINUE to buy into such nonsense, even all these years after it was shown to be bullshit. That's just how easily you sappy low-IQ slugs and dummies can be led around by fraud-pushing charlatans and demagogues. What a bunch of dopey, low-grade droolers your cohort is.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Biggest loser... ()
Date: December 13, 2018 10:34AM

Poor old man raging at the sun Wrote:
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> What does "In see" and "dingle day" mean einstein? LOL

Those are called typos. People above the age of ten are usually able to recognize them as such. Maybe you'll ba able to do it too, once you get a little older. Or maybe not.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: latino 4 u daughter. ()
Date: December 15, 2018 07:04AM

Why don you racist fuck citizens try an make us leave? Maybe we make you leave. Maybe we make the love to your daughters, yse we do it all the time. White girls love the Latin style love. We no going anywhere.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What's worse than awful... ()
Date: December 15, 2018 10:43AM

Alternate reality Wrote:
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> Not at all. It's poorly founded political
> rhetoric and hyperbole. But mindless assholes
> like you bought into the bullshit anyway.

That's quite true. Bush-43 took us into a needless and disastrous war based on what sane people knew were shameless lies and without any other justification at all. Then -- just for good measure -- he crashed the economy as well.

It ought to be quite hard for any other President to do worse than Bush-43, but this Trump fellow is pulling it off.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Too smart by ½ ()
Date: December 15, 2018 10:44AM

LOL you sound smart Wrote:
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> Worst in breed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pwople who are much worse for America than an
> > illegal ---
> >
> > All these dimbulb FOX-watching right-wing
> > ASSHOLES. Every single one of them is
> deadweight
> > loss to society -- a repulsive and unnecessary
> > burden with intellectual capacities so low that
> > they do no more than waste our precious air and
> > water and time and space.
>
> Big words! Big words!


Yet, he doesn't know how to spell 'people'. Smart 'pwople' know such things.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: You = stupid ()
Date: December 15, 2018 10:46AM

Biggest loser... Wrote:
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> Poor old man raging at the sun Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What does "In see" and "dingle day" mean
> einstein? LOL
>
> Those are called typos. People above the age of
> ten are usually able to recognize them as such.
> Maybe you'll ba able to do it too, once you get a
> little older. Or maybe not.


Only dumbfuck douche-bags make typos whilst calling others stupid.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: So, lemme get this straight ()
Date: December 15, 2018 10:47AM

Alternate reality Wrote:
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> back in the real world Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I never bought shit from Shrub.
>
> Bwahahahaha! Dopes like you bought into Bush's WMD
> bit hook, line and sinker. All the really stupid
> people did, and you are nothing if not really
> stupid,. The regular folks were out there telling
> you what a hollow, sham message that was, but you
> stuck to your stupid-guns as a totally hapless
> moron.
>
> > You're boy Bobby Mueller sure as hell did.
> That's why you labeled
> > him a downscale dumbfuck dummy.
>
> As a confirmed hook-line-and-sinker-swallower, it
> is YOU who is worse than the downscale dumbfuck
> dummy in the room, a fact that you for some
> unknown reason wish to continue demonstrating in
> spades. We've got to fight them over there so we
> don't have to fight them over here. We don't want
> the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. Does any
> of that worthless rubbish sound familiar to you,
> you pathetic little stupid shit? How about
> bringing the blessings of democracy to the Middle
> East? Remember when that was a #1 White House
> hit?
>
> As for Mueller by the way, he's busy carving up
> this latest Republican ass-clown like a
> Thanksgiving turkey. You want cranberry sauce
> with that?
>
> > Or, is he a perjurer? Which is it?
>
> Dude, your "quotes" were poached and utter frauds
> for reasons you were just plain too stupid to
> recognize on your own, and seemingly also after
> having those reasons spelled out for you in detail
> just the other day. What a sorry-ass little
> dork-brained douchebag!
>
> > "Iraq's WMD program poses a clear threat to our
> > national security." This is a true statement?
>
> Not at all. It's poorly founded political
> rhetoric and hyperbole. But mindless assholes
> like you bought into the bullshit anyway.
>
> > "Baghdad has the capability and, we presume,
> the
> > will to use biological, chemical, or
> radiological
> > weapons." This is a true statement?
>
> Not at all. It's even more poorly founded
> political rhetoric and hyperbole. And
> dull-brained unsophisticated loser-shits like you
> CONTINUE to buy into such nonsense, even all these
> years after it was shown to be bullshit. That's
> just how easily you sappy low-IQ slugs and dummies
> can be led around by fraud-pushing charlatans and
> demagogues. What a bunch of dopey, low-grade
> droolers your cohort is.


All your posts scream, "I'm a flaming faggot". Are you a faggot or just post like one?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Idiots R pwople too ()
Date: December 15, 2018 10:51AM

What's worse than awful... Wrote:
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> Alternate reality Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not at all. It's poorly founded political
> > rhetoric and hyperbole. But mindless assholes
> > like you bought into the bullshit anyway.
>
> That's quite true. Bush-43 took us into a
> needless and disastrous war based on what sane
> people knew were shameless lies and without any
> other justification at all. Then -- just for good
> measure -- he crashed the economy as well.
>
> It ought to be quite hard for any other President
> to do worse than Bush-43, but this Trump fellow is
> pulling it off.


Under Trump:

No wars
Record unemployment
Most job openings in history
Wage growth
GDP growth consistently at or over 3%
No bailouts to Wall Street or corporate America
Driving trust in the lying media down to less than 25%

Looks like a winner compared to Bush or Obama. But you, being a fucking moron, wouldn't know that.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What's worse than awful... ()
Date: December 15, 2018 11:55AM

Idiots R pwople too Wrote:
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> Under Trump:

> No wars

How did Trump crush ISIS? LOL! Are there any US troops in Syria? What is going on in Yemen?

> Record unemployment

Want to rephrase that, dumbfuck?

> Most job openings in history.

Job openings actually peaked in August of this year and have been declining since. This is part of why so many touts are worried about an impending recession.

> Wage growth

Wage growrh was at at 3.9% in November 2016. After falling to 2.9% this past February, it finally crept back to 3,9% in November 2018. By comparison, it had been at 4,0% in November 2008 and 5.4% in November 2000.

> GDP growth consistently at or over 3%

GDP growth has been above 3.0% twice in seven quarters under Trump. This happened 11 times in 32 quarters under Obama.

> No bailouts to Wall Street or corporate America

Plainly, you are not even remotely familiar with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2018.

> Driving trust in the lying media down to less than 25%

Trust in media had been declining for decades in tandem with the rise of lying FOX News and the alt-right media. But Trump has lied so much that media trust has actually been increasing over the past year.

> But you, being a fucking moron, wouldn't know that.

I'd know more than a polluted simpleton asshole dork-brained dumbfuck stooge like you about virtually any and everything. See the bloody carnage above as an example.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Bad news shithead ()
Date: December 15, 2018 12:28PM

What's worse than awful... Wrote:
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> Idiots R pwople too Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Under Trump:
>
> > No wars
>
> How did Trump crush ISIS? LOL! Are there any US
> troops in Syria? What is going on in Yemen?
>
> > Record unemployment
>
> Want to rephrase that, dumbfuck?
>
> > Most job openings in history.
>
> Job openings actually peaked in August of this
> year and have been declining since. This is part
> of why so many touts are worried about an
> impending recession.
>
> > Wage growth
>
> Wage growrh was at at 3.9% in November 2016.
> After falling to 2.9% this past February, it
> finally crept back to 3,9% in November 2018. By
> comparison, it had been at 4,0% in November 2008
> and 5.4% in November 2000.
>
> > GDP growth consistently at or over 3%
>
> GDP growth has been above 3.0% twice in seven
> quarters under Trump. This happened 11 times in
> 32 quarters under Obama.
>
> > No bailouts to Wall Street or corporate America
>
> Plainly, you are not even remotely familiar with
> the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2018.
>
> > Driving trust in the lying media down to less
> than 25%
>
> Trust in media had been declining for decades in
> tandem with the rise of lying FOX News and the
> alt-right media. But Trump has lied so much that
> media trust has actually been increasing over the
> past year.
>
> > But you, being a fucking moron, wouldn't know
> that.
>
> I'd know more than a polluted simpleton asshole
> dork-brained dumbfuck stooge like you about
> virtually any and everything. See the bloody
> carnage above as an example.


No one's buying your phony numbers douche. Making shit up like you do all the time is a sign of a weak-brained faggot. Why don't you go to 7-11 and hire a mexican to chop your empty head off asshole. Until then, stop posting your fagtard lies and fake bullshit while you dream of sucking that half-white former piece of shit president you fantasize about. Faggot!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What's worse than awful... ()
Date: December 15, 2018 12:45PM

^^^ The white flag of unconditional surrender. Couldn't refute a single point. That's because they were all iron-clad fact. Go wallow in your right-wing shit-pile of ignorance, you worthless low-grade loser.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: You lost again shit4brains ()
Date: December 15, 2018 12:47PM

What's worse than awful... Wrote:
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> ^^^ The white flag of unconditional surrender.
> Couldn't refute a single point. That's because
> they were all iron-clad fact. Go wallow in your
> right-wing shit-pile of ignorance, you worthless
> low-grade loser.

More bullshit from the forum's lying faggot. Go peddle your fake bullshit on democratunderground. They'll lap up your lies like you lapped up your daddy's cum. Here, no one buys it. NO ONE.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What's worse than awful... ()
Date: December 15, 2018 12:56PM

Give it up, cesspooler. You can't dispute a single fucking point made above. Not one. That's because you are nothing but a worthless know-nothing right-wing dumbass whose every thought was pumped into his head by some alt-right lying douchebag asshole.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: 3rd party ()
Date: December 15, 2018 12:57PM

You lost again shit4brains Wrote:
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> What's worse than awful... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ^^^ The white flag of unconditional surrender.
> > Couldn't refute a single point. That's because
> > they were all iron-clad fact. Go wallow in
> your
> > right-wing shit-pile of ignorance, you
> worthless
> > low-grade loser.
>
> More bullshit from the forum's lying faggot. Go
> peddle your fake bullshit on democratunderground.
> They'll lap up your lies like you lapped up your
> daddy's cum. Here, no one buys it. NO ONE.


Somebody is getting trolled hard and put away wet lol.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What's worse than awful... ()
Date: December 15, 2018 01:04PM

You can't be 'trolled' by facts. You can however be shown by them to have been a worthless ignorant asshole.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Hillbilly mating song on FFU ()
Date: December 15, 2018 01:08PM

Hey Cletus and Billybob, your 'facts' are made up bullshit. Go back to the hills and fuck your sisters while the rest of us go about cleaning up the shit pile that ½ white faggot left behind. Or kill yourselves. Either way, only you believe the made up numbers you post here.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What's worse than awful... ()
Date: December 15, 2018 01:21PM

If any of you out-of-the-loop assholes knew how to use the google, you could have unearthed all of the numbers cited above by yourself. They would all by the way have been from unimpeachable sources, BLS, BEA, and the Fed having been among them.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lying liars lying ()
Date: December 15, 2018 01:32PM

What's worse than awful... Wrote:
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> If any of you out-of-the-loop assholes knew how to
> use the google, you could have unearthed all of
> the numbers cited above by yourself. They would
> all by the way have been from unimpeachable
> sources, BLS, BEA, and the Fed having been among
> them.


Ewww, lie to us some more faggot. Do you get horny coming on here and lying so much? What kind of sick fucking pervert comes to the underground just to get a hard on by lying about politics? Oh, that's right. You're a class A faggot. That's what kind. Now kill yourself or have Jose do it. But either way, rid the earth of your sorry ass. Today!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What's worse than awful... ()
Date: December 15, 2018 01:47PM

^^^ Thanks for proving my point about out-of-the-loop assholes, of which you are most definitely one of the assholiest.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lying pussy whines like a baby ()
Date: December 15, 2018 01:53PM

What's worse than awful... Wrote:
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> ^^^ Thanks for proving my point about
> out-of-the-loop assholes, of which you are most
> definitely one of the assholiest.


The only point I proved is that you're a lying sack of shit and no one believes you here. It wasn't hard to prove of course. You've no doubt been a drooling fuckstick your entire life. Now, thanks to the Internet, you can display your faggy ass perversions to the whole world. Ain't technology grand?!?!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What's worse than awful... ()
Date: December 15, 2018 03:30PM

Your TOTAL SCORE for this round is ZERO points.

In other news...

Job openings actually peaked in August of this
year and have been declining since. This is part
of why so many touts are worried about an
impending recession.

Wage growrh was at at 3.9% in November 2016.
After falling to 2.9% this past February, it
finally crept back to 3,9% in November 2018. By
comparison, it had been at 4,0% in November 2008
and 5.4% in November 2000.

GDP growth has been above 3.0% twice in seven
quarters under Trump. This happened 11 times in
32 quarters under Obama.

Plainly, you are not even remotely familiar with
the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2018.

Trust in media had been declining for decades in
tandem with the rise of lying FOX News and the
alt-right media. But Trump has lied so much that
media trust has actually been increasing over the
past year.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: illegals put food on your table ()
Date: December 16, 2018 06:33AM

Seventeen percent of the U.S. workforce are immigrants among whom estimates indicate that nearly one-third do not have authorization to work legally. In other words, undocumented workers make up about 5 percent of the workforce. They are not distributed evenly among all industries. For example, according to a report by the Department of Labor based on a survey of agricultural workers in 2013-2014, nearly half (47 percent) of farmworkers had no work authorization. Other estimates based on 2014 census data show that undocumented immigrants make up 12.7 percent of the construction workforce, 8.7 percent of the leisure and hospitality workforce, and 6.2 percent of all business service workers.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Equity markets ()
Date: December 16, 2018 08:37AM

^^^ And nearly all of them sre working hard and doing a great job while being paid at oddly low rates.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Tl;DR version ()
Date: December 16, 2018 09:11AM

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Pfffft... ()
Date: December 16, 2018 10:20AM

^^^ Intelligence and attention span of a gnat.

To befuddle you even further, many businesses are based on production functions that call for inputs of low-wage labor. Those businesses don't care one whit about the nationality of those who apply for and ultimately work in such positions. That they be reliable and hard-working are the primary qualifications. If local dumbass honkies can't fit that bill, so be it.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: american man ()
Date: December 16, 2018 12:55PM

Illegals are cleaning my gutters right now.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Number One Deplorable ()
Date: December 16, 2018 03:49PM

Undocumented = illegal alien scumbag.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Silly people ()
Date: December 16, 2018 03:56PM

Neither of you knows who is illegal and who is not.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Iceman and Falcon ()
Date: December 17, 2018 12:28PM

ICE's FY2018 Annual Report shows over 6500 illegals had be detained by ICE after being convicted of murder and violent crimes such as rape, attempted murder, armed assault and battery. What a bunch of winners you useless liberal scum want to help.

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/about/offices/ero/pdf/eroFY2018Report.pdf

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Pick those cherries ()
Date: December 17, 2018 12:45PM

LOL! By far and away, the number one crime involved is DUI. You assholes just hate Hispanics. Why not just admit that you have a problem?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Build that wall ()
Date: December 17, 2018 12:52PM

Pick those cherries Wrote:
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> LOL! By far and away, the number one crime
> involved is DUI. You assholes just hate
> Hispanics. Why not just admit that you have a
> problem?


Out of the 160,000 total detained, about half are DUI. And then there's the 2200 murders. 2100 kidnappings, etc, etc. Fuck these illegal leeches. They should all be arrested and dropped in the ocean about 1000 miles from the nearest landfall.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Pick those cherries ()
Date: December 17, 2018 01:23PM

The problem continues.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Number One Deplorable ()
Date: December 17, 2018 01:44PM

Pick those cherries Wrote:
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> LOL! By far and away, the number one crime
> involved is DUI. You assholes just hate
> Hispanics. Why not just admit that you have a
> problem?

I admit I have a problem. The problem is that I live in a country with about 30 million illegals.

As for illegals being vital to the economy, the only way that would be true would be if we were burning them in furnaces to generate cheap electricity.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Pick those cherries ()
Date: December 17, 2018 06:15PM

The shock value here is from your simple ignorance.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: realegal ()
Date: December 17, 2018 08:30PM

Illegals are usually good people.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: That's what I've seen too ()
Date: December 18, 2018 11:46AM

realegal Wrote:
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> Illegals are usually good people.

I can't tell who's illegal and who's not (and neither can anyone else), but the Hispanics that I come into contact with in day-to-day living seem to be pleasant, hard-working people. Unlike right-wingers who all seem to be bitter, self-indulgent assholes.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: reality on line 2 ()
Date: December 18, 2018 08:32PM

Love them or hate them we all need them!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Bring 'em on... ()
Date: December 19, 2018 01:01PM

I had a wonderful Italian dinner on Monday. It wasn't cooked or served by Italians,

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Number One Deplorable ()
Date: December 19, 2018 02:25PM

That's what I've seen too Wrote:

> > Illegals are usually good people.
>
> I can't tell who's illegal and who's not (and
> neither can anyone else), but the Hispanics that I
> come into contact with in day-to-day living seem
> to be pleasant, hard-working people. Unlike
> right-wingers who all seem to be bitter,
> self-indulgent assholes.

If you can't tell who is illegal, how do you know that they are "usually good people???"

They broke our laws. They are bad people.

And anyone can spot most illegals instantly. (Looks Hispanic or Asian or has Hispanic or Asian name) + Can barely Speak English (if at all) = Illegal.

Round 'em up, waterboard 'em, and then send 'em back.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: What a stupid shit ()
Date: December 19, 2018 02:48PM

Thanks for your IQ < 50 admissions.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: sealed in juices.. ()
Date: December 19, 2018 04:54PM

Number One Deplorable Wrote:
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> That's what I've seen too Wrote:
>
> > > Illegals are usually good people.
> >
> > I can't tell who's illegal and who's not (and
> > neither can anyone else), but the Hispanics that
> I
> > come into contact with in day-to-day living
> seem
> > to be pleasant, hard-working people. Unlike
> > right-wingers who all seem to be bitter,
> > self-indulgent assholes.
>
> If you can't tell who is illegal, how do you know
> that they are "usually good people???"
>
> They broke our laws. They are bad people.
>
> And anyone can spot most illegals instantly.
> (Looks Hispanic or Asian or has Hispanic or Asian
> name) + Can barely Speak English (if at all) =
> Illegal.
>
> Round 'em up, waterboard 'em, and then send 'em
> back.


The average American commits 3 felonies a day. By your reasoning all of us should be locked up or deported.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704471504574438900830760842

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: yar ()
Date: December 20, 2018 04:54PM

reality on line 2 Wrote:
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> Love them or hate them we all need them!


you are right.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: mary joe ()
Date: January 05, 2019 01:49PM

While the nation’s attention currently is focused on the southern border, what’s being forgotten is that millions of undocumented immigrants continue to live in the United States — and most of them work.

These workers play vital roles in the U.S. economy: erecting American buildings, picking American apples and grapes, and taking care of American babies.

Oh, and paying American taxes.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: I am not amused ()
Date: January 05, 2019 01:53PM

> Typically ignorant post from you, perhaps the
> dumbest and most pathetic of all posters on FFXU.
> In fact, legal and illegal immigrants each have
> lower crime and incarceration rates than the
> native-born. This is especially true with
> first-generation immigrants. No surprise though
> that you don't know that.

Typical, ignorant left moron. The crime rate for illegal is 100%. It started the moment they illegally entered this country.

You are the possessor of great ignorance, not the people you insult.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: clearing things up ()
Date: January 05, 2019 01:56PM

Only a very few pay income taxes.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: sealed in juices, ()
Date: January 05, 2019 02:01PM

clearing things up Wrote:
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> Only a very few pay income taxes.


In most cases their income is so low that it would actually cost the taxpayers money to collect taxes from them. Additionally they pay sales taxes and are paying off millions of Americans mortgages with their rent payments.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Date: January 05, 2019 02:23PM

mary joe Wrote:
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> While the nation’s attention currently is
> focused on the southern border, what’s being
> forgotten is that millions of undocumented
> immigrants continue to live in the United States
> — and most of them work.
>
> These workers play vital roles in the U.S.
> economy: erecting American buildings, picking
> American apples and grapes, and taking care of
> American babies.
>
> Oh, and paying American taxes.
...
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Next in line ()
Date: January 05, 2019 02:59PM

^^^ Like it or not, immigrants in simple fact pay all the same taxes that others do. They may pay more or less than what you or I do, but they pay them all nonetheless.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: wrong, so very wrong ()
Date: January 05, 2019 03:28PM

^^^^^^ no they don't. You can't fix your level of stupidity.

PS- everyone knows you bumped a 2+ week old thread because your a bitter little bitch. Ever think you'd be wasting away your retirement years as an Internet troll? Fucking pathetic.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: proper drainage ()
Date: January 05, 2019 03:36PM

Two illegals just cleaned my gutters yesterday, only 80 bucks! I love illegals.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Like it or not ()
Date: January 05, 2019 04:30PM

wrong, so very wrong Wrote:
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> ^^^^^^ no they don't. You can't fix your level of stupidity.

It’s difficult to fathom how anyone can be so much dumber than a normal person.

> PS- everyone knows you bumped a 2+ week old thread
> because your a bitter little bitch.

Talk to ‘Mary Joe’.

> Ever think you'd be wasting away your retirement years as an
> Internet troll? Fucking pathetic.

Employed and not, I’ve written for both fun and profit on the internet since 1995. Almost as long as you’ve been an idiot. I’ve never really thought about a time when I would not devote few hours here and there to forcing dunces to confront the nuts and bolts of their own ignorance.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Immigration lawyer ()
Date: January 05, 2019 04:34PM

proper drainage Wrote:
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> Two illegals just cleaned my gutters yesterday, only 80 bucks!
> I love illegals.

If you knowingly hired illegals, you are now a criminal

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Date: January 05, 2019 06:01PM

Next in line Wrote:
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> ^^^ Like it or not, immigrants in simple fact pay
> all the same taxes that others do. They may pay
> more or less than what you or I do, but they pay
> them all nonetheless.

Another leftist lie.

Every single reputable study has concluded that illegal aliens take more than they contribute, once you factor in school costs for their hoards of little munchkins, unpaid hospital and emergency room bills that the rest of us have to cover, money they send back to Mejico, costs of incarceration (especially the YUGE number in the federal prison system), WIC benefits, etc., etc., etc. and that they pay relatively little if anything in federal and state income taxes.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Next in line ()
Date: January 05, 2019 10:06PM

You’re just a cesspool of worthless disinformation. Instead of being careful and vigilant sbout what you choose to believe, you swallow the worst sorts of dumb-ass nativist swill you can find and then just choke on it all. Fool.

By the way, unlike your imaginary ones, actual illegals do all they can to avoid contact with the system and just fly under the radar instead.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: pin man6 ()
Date: January 06, 2019 07:59AM

cbn Wrote:
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> Proof that we all desperately need the illegals
>
> https://abcnews.go.com/US/immigrants-us-economy-d
> isaster-experts/story?id=45533028


That is a good article.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Racists are some sort of stupid ()
Date: January 06, 2019 09:50AM

'A Day Without Immigrants' was almost two years ago now. As can be seen in this very thread, many who claim to be people were simply too dumb to have learned a single thing from it. They are so wrapped up in and dependent on the chains of their own foolish hate and ignorance that they are blinded to the plain path forward. What a sorry lot of pitiful basket-casers they are.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Easy pickins for demagogues ()
Date: January 07, 2019 09:41AM

There is an excess on this forum of people who are just too stupid to understand the ways of the real world at all. They cower in their dark corners and fear what was never there to begin with.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: IT'S DA RACISTS!!!!!!!!!! ()
Date: January 07, 2019 10:24AM

Racists are some sort of stupid Wrote:
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> 'A Day Without Immigrants' was almost two years
> ago now. As can be seen in this very thread, many
> who claim to be people were simply too dumb to
> have learned a single thing from it. They are so
> wrapped up in and dependent on the chains of their
> own foolish hate and ignorance that they are
> blinded to the plain path forward. What a sorry
> lot of pitiful basket-casers they are.


You are one emotional girlie-man there goober. May I recommend...


 
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Racists are some sort of stupid ()
Date: January 07, 2019 10:43AM

IT'S DA RACISTS!!!!!!!!!! Wrote:
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> You are one emotional girlie-man there goober. May I recommend...

Yeah, tell us about 'man-boosting Testafen' and how 'she'll like it too' you pathetic moron. None of that GNC crap is anything but some scammer's way to separate you from what little money you might have. It seems that some people really are just too dumb to realize how dumb they are.

Low-testosterone is a real thing though and can be controlled with proper medication. If you are over age 40, ask your doctor to include a T-test in your next blood panel. Then your need for supplementation can be rationally discussed and addressed. Of course, that won't do anything at all to help with the problem of your being a ridiculous stupid shit. I suspect that will be a life-long problem for you.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: i can see the tears running down ()
Date: January 07, 2019 10:51AM

Racists are some sort of stupid Wrote:
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> IT'S DA RACISTS!!!!!!!!!! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are one emotional girlie-man there goober.
> May I recommend...
>
> Yeah, tell us about 'man-boosting Testafen' and
> how 'she'll like it too' you pathetic moron. None
> of that GNC crap is anything but some scammer's
> way to separate you from what little money you
> might have. It seems that some people really are
> just too dumb to realize how dumb they are.
>
> Low-testosterone is a real thing though and can be
> controlled with proper medication. If you are
> over age 40, ask your doctor to include a T-test
> in your next blood panel. Then your need for
> supplementation can be rationally discussed and
> addressed. Of course, that won't do anything at
> all to help with the problem of your being a
> ridiculous stupid shit. I suspect that will be a
> life-long problem for you.


The feels pour out of you like rain from the sky. Did you have your dick removed surgically or does your beta-cuckery come naturally to you?


 
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: LOL... ()
Date: January 07, 2019 11:13AM

^^^ Another wasted eight-wing assfuck topping out at the level of pathetic stammering and pre-school picture-book cartoons. No wonder these clowns never have any money or girlfriends.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Official FFU FIFY'er ()
Date: January 07, 2019 11:17AM

LOL... Wrote:
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> ^^^ Another wasted eight-wing assfuck topping out
> at the level of pathetic stammering and pre-school
> picture-book cartoons. No wonder these clowns
> never have any money or girlfriends.



FIFY

vvvvvvvvv

 
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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: GNC spokesman ()
Date: January 07, 2019 11:44AM

FIFY = ASSHOLE. A really, really big and stupid asshole.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Asshole Spotter ()
Date: January 07, 2019 11:55AM

GNC spokesman Wrote:
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> FIFY = ASSHOLE. A really, really big and stupid
> asshole.


When you, one of the 3 biggest assholes on this site, call someone else an asshole, it is 100% true that they are a great FFU poster and that you've just gotten butthurt again.


Asshole Spotter has spoken /thread

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lol... ()
Date: January 07, 2019 12:30PM

^^^ Fucked up douchebag has spoken. FIFY was voted FFU Asshole of the Year. Everyone hates him right along with Big Font Guy.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: An election no one voted in ()
Date: January 07, 2019 12:59PM

Lol... Wrote:
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> ^^^ Fucked up douchebag has spoken. FIFY was voted
> FFU Asshole of the Year. Everyone hates him right
> along with Big Font Guy.


He really gets your goat don't he? Oh the irony. Gerry's gay protector has his goat gotten. Funny, no?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Fairfax Homeowner ()
Date: January 27, 2019 02:32PM

I just hired some illegals to put a French drain in my side yard. I love illegals!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Hmmm... ()
Date: January 27, 2019 02:44PM

How did you establish that they were illegal?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: sealed in juices.. ()
Date: January 27, 2019 03:53PM

George Fucking Washington Wrote:
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> The Dixie Wigger Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So with 350 million here we don't have enough
> > people to pick fruit for all
> >
> > Then wash cars clean toilets mow grass for
> elitist
> > Democrats who want to save a few dollars for
> each
> > service rendered
> >
> > Slam that border door closed, no more
> immigrants
> > legal or not that cant make their keep
> >
> > America First
> >
> > Whats The Problem ?
>
> Just try it. The laws are already in place. Have
> you ever wondered why those laws are enforced less
> than 10% of the time? Anyone with half a brain
> knows that the undocumented Americans are vital to
> our economy.


Sad but true.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Fairfax City homeowner ()
Date: February 09, 2019 07:57AM

Two undocumented American ladies are cleaning my house and washing my clothes right now. These ladies do a wonderful job and they do not steal shit like the "legal" maids used to do. God bless the undocumented Americans!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Sure thing... ()
Date: February 09, 2019 07:59AM

How do you know they are undocumented?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: landlord ()
Date: February 09, 2019 05:24PM

I have illegals renting a house from me, they pay in cash. 1300 a month and the mortgage payment is 336 a month.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lol at your investment ()
Date: February 09, 2019 08:38PM

landlord Wrote:
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> I have illegals renting a house from me, they pay
> in cash. 1300 a month and the mortgage payment is
> 336 a month.





A coworker of mine did the same thing. He was renting out his home to illegals.

Did it for a year. When he finally gained access, hazmat had to be called in and the entire house had to be gutted because the illegals were pissing all over the drywall the entire time. He totally lost his ass on that house.


Lolz!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: landlord ()
Date: February 10, 2019 06:48AM

Lol at your investment Wrote:
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> landlord Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have illegals renting a house from me, they
> pay
> > in cash. 1300 a month and the mortgage payment
> is
> > 336 a month.
>
>
>
>
>
> A coworker of mine did the same thing. He was
> renting out his home to illegals.
>
> Did it for a year. When he finally gained access,
> hazmat had to be called in and the entire house
> had to be gutted because the illegals were pissing
> all over the drywall the entire time. He totally
> lost his ass on that house.
>
>
> Lolz!


Sounds like your co-worker is an ignorant fuck. My illegals keep the house very clean, they even put up fresh paint and new carpet at their expense. I go by and have lunch with them every few weeks. They are wonderful people.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: The dumb just keeps on coming ()
Date: February 10, 2019 12:07PM

Sure thing... Wrote:
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> How do you know they are undocumented?

No answer to that, and one isn't about to arrive either.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: horatio s ()
Date: February 11, 2019 04:35PM

> Sure thing... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How do you know they are undocumented?
>


You ask them, duh.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Libtards will never learn ()
Date: February 11, 2019 04:49PM

Lol at your investment Wrote:
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> landlord Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have illegals renting a house from me, they
> pay
> > in cash. 1300 a month and the mortgage payment
> is
> > 336 a month.
>
>
>
>
>
> A coworker of mine did the same thing. He was
> renting out his home to illegals.
>
> Did it for a year. When he finally gained access,
> hazmat had to be called in and the entire house
> had to be gutted because the illegals were pissing
> all over the drywall the entire time. He totally
> lost his ass on that house.
>
>
> Lolz!




That's funny. I'm sure your coworker is a typical liberal idiot that keeps saying that other cultures are so wonderful. When the truth of the matter is that they aren't. He got Excactly what he deserved.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: just facts ()
Date: February 11, 2019 08:18PM

Illegal Immigration has an overall positive impact on the long-run economic growth in the U.S.

FACT.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Another little known fact ()
Date: February 13, 2019 12:15PM

Undocumented immigrants nationwide pay an estimated average of 8 percent of their incomes in state and local taxes. To put this in perspective, the top 1 percent of nationwide taxpayers pay an average effective tax rate of 5.4 percent in state and local taxes.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: EIP ()
Date: February 13, 2019 04:47PM

just facts Wrote:
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> Illegal Immigration has an overall positive impact
> on the long-run economic growth in the U.S.
>
> FACT.


Educated and intelligent people know that. Rightards are cowards and they are scared of immigrants so they hate on them.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Hmmm... ()
Date: February 13, 2019 05:07PM

That about covers it. We have a bunch of dullard nativist jerks who imagine all sorts of nonsense things about blacks, Hispanics, atheists, public sector workers, union members, and other ‘evil-doers’. It’s embarrassing to the country.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2. ()
Date: February 13, 2019 06:49PM

just facts Wrote:
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> Illegal Immigration has an overall positive impact
> on the long-run economic growth in the U.S.
>
> FACT.




Provide these "facts" of yours. Lul

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: fuck em, then deport them ()
Date: February 13, 2019 07:15PM

motel maintenance man Wrote:
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> We have tried to hire Americans to clean the rooms
> at my motel but guess what? Americans are not
> worth a fuck when it comes to working! White
> people, black people are no different, Americans
> will not work hard. Hispanic people are honest and
> hardworking legal or not.
> The Americans that will actually clean motel rooms
> are usually drug addicts who will not show up for
> work when they are supposed to and they steal shit
> all the time. We have to fire them the first two
> weeks.

I spent 30 years in the landscape industry. There are plenty of lazy illegals, not to mention the theft problem they bring because they don't understand or don't care about ecconomics

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: template of fear ()
Date: February 15, 2019 04:42PM

EIP Wrote:
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> just facts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Illegal Immigration has an overall positive
> impact
> > on the long-run economic growth in the U.S.
> >
> > FACT.
>
>
> Educated and intelligent people know that.
> Rightards are cowards and they are scared of
> immigrants so they hate on them.


That is exactly right.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: cac ()
Date: February 16, 2019 06:41AM

Iron Will Wrote:
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> fortitude7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Much like 2nd amendment zealots people who hate
> > undocumented Americans are quite simply scared
> of
> > them. They are cowards.
>
>
> Conservatives in general are cowards.


That's the bottom line here.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Voracious reader ()
Date: February 19, 2019 10:37AM

There are plenty of UNBIASED analyses that show the net benefits of undocumented workers in the economy. I haven't seen a single one however that substantiates the worth of dumbfuck right-wing assholes.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Fuck Cleveland spam guy ()
Date: February 24, 2019 07:58AM

Keep the illegals. Deport the dumbfuck right-wing assholes.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: MKX driver ()
Date: February 24, 2019 10:13AM

Jiffy lube charges about 75 bucks to do a full synthetic oil change on my Lincoln but the Illegals that do my lawn care and clean my gutters change it for me for 20 bucks if I pick up the oil and filter at Walmart, total cost 47 bucks. You got to love these illegals.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Sambo ()
Date: February 24, 2019 10:22PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> just facts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Illegal Immigration has an overall positive
> impact
> > on the long-run economic growth in the U.S.
> >
> > FACT.
>
>
>
>
> Provide these "facts" of yours.




Lol. Still waiting for your evidence, coward.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: dowhut ()
Date: February 24, 2019 11:05PM

There was a day without immigrants? Did I miss something? I don’t recall my daily needs and wants being disrupted

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Posse Comitatus ()
Date: February 25, 2019 12:06AM

It shouldn't even be illegal to kill illegals. In fact, there should be a bounty: maybe $100/head. That would end the illegals problem in about one week. After we killed a few thousand, the rest would run for the hills like cock roaches when you turn on the garage light. Double that for the head of anyone who hired an illegal.

Can't afford to get rid of them?!? You could do it in about a week for well under one million dollars. You just need the WILL. I have the will. Just make it legal and let us get to work.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Bottom feeders... ()
Date: February 26, 2019 10:00AM

Haters never have a good day. And they deserve it.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: 8 million strong ()
Date: March 10, 2019 10:19AM


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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: tradesman ()
Date: March 10, 2019 04:30PM

If you live in a house in Fairfax county built after 1995 or so your house was at least partly constructed by illegals. Plenty of white people made a shit ton of cash off the backs of these wonderful people when the building booms were on.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Inbred Paki's ()
Date: March 10, 2019 07:08PM

tradesman Wrote:
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> If you live in a house in Fairfax county built
> after 1995 or so your house was at least partly
> constructed by illegals. Plenty of white people
> made a shit ton of cash off the backs of these
> wonderful people when the building booms were on.






The damage that illegals have done to tradesman salaries, and the housing business in general cannot be measured.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Hammer and tongs ()
Date: March 10, 2019 07:16PM

Nonsense.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: TheTroof ()
Date: March 10, 2019 07:48PM

This whole thread is idiocy starting with the title,

'Undocumented workers' get paid under the table and do NOT pay taxes. They make decent money and go on all available welfare, along with their families. Free medical care on and on.This results in a great standard of living; better than our own citizens. This is why you see all the frijoleros driving around in high dollar cars. i don't know how this maroon posting here drones on about 'they pay taxes just like you' - they don't.

They can do this because they are 'undocumented'. I don't think OP even knows what undocumented is.

This casts an enormous burden to those of us who work legally for a living - not only the direct costs of supporting these parasites, but in the jobs lost for legal workers, and in depressed wages......I could go on and on but just don't listen to braindead morons telling you we need them.

Just the opposite, we need to get rid of them. Big time.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: XXfruppieXX ()
Date: March 12, 2019 04:45PM

TheTroof Wrote:
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> This whole thread is idiocy starting with the
> title,
>
> 'Undocumented workers' get paid under the table
> and do NOT pay taxes. They make decent money and
> go on all available welfare, along with their
> families. Free medical care on and on.This results
> in a great standard of living; better than our own
> citizens. This is why you see all the frijoleros
> driving around in high dollar cars. i don't know
> how this maroon posting here drones on about 'they
> pay taxes just like you' - they don't.
>
> They can do this because they are 'undocumented'.
> I don't think OP even knows what undocumented is.
>
> This casts an enormous burden to those of us who
> work legally for a living - not only the direct
> costs of supporting these parasites, but in the
> jobs lost for legal workers, and in depressed
> wages......I could go on and on but just don't
> listen to braindead morons telling you we need
> them.
>
> Just the opposite, we need to get rid of them. Big
> time.


That's stupid.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: LOL... ()
Date: March 12, 2019 11:05PM

For once, Frulpie has it straight. ‘TheTroof’ is just an absolute dope.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: eesh too lazy to log in ()
Date: March 13, 2019 09:10AM

LOL... Wrote:
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> For once, Frulpie has it straight. ‘TheTroof’
> is just an absolute dope.


Only the registered fruppie has the authority of Cary to declare something stupid.
Only the registered phruppie has the authority of Cary to declare someone stupid.

Everyone else is just a pale and useless imitation and is expressing opinion. The real fruppie/phruppie are expressing fact. It's all in the underground terms and conditions.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: @RealFroggy ()
Date: March 13, 2019 09:24AM

You’re stupid.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Jen5 ()
Date: March 13, 2019 09:33AM

There are 25,772,342 illegal aliens living in the United States.

The cost of illegal immigration in 2019
$18,959,495,168!

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Lying liars ()
Date: March 13, 2019 09:52AM

^^^ More bogus slop from deplorable anti-immigrant hate sites.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Truthing Truthers ()
Date: March 13, 2019 10:33AM

The enrich our lives in so many ways, especially her in VA...

https://wtvr.com/2019/03/11/richard-whiteside-obit/

HENRICO COUNTY, Va. -- A Henrico man was killed after another driver hit his car head-on, according to Henrico Police.

Richard Whiteside, 71, of Henrico County, died Friday, March 6, four days after the March 2 crash closed West Broad Street.

The driver of the Silverado, Ruben Adolfo De Leon Valenzuela, was charged with aggravated assault and maiming while DWI, according to police. He suffered non-life-threatening injuries. Speed and alcohol were factors in the crash, investigators said.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Sheesh... ()
Date: March 13, 2019 11:36AM

^^^ Only a stupid person would have posted that.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: dock grain ()
Date: March 13, 2019 05:38PM

Lying liars Wrote:
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> ^^^ More bogus slop from deplorable anti-immigrant
> hate sites.


Only extremely ignorant people look at those sites and take them seriously.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stay away... ()
Date: March 13, 2019 05:51PM

Nut-case sites are rhe stock and trade of the worthless right-wing.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: No bebas y manejes ()
Date: March 13, 2019 06:13PM

Race and Ethnicity in Fatal Motor Vehicle
Traffic Crashes, 1999-2004

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

Background

This report describes the differences among racial and ethnic populations in the frequency of
occurrence of characteristics or behaviors associated with fatal motor vehicle crashes. Leading
cause of death data1 from 2002, the latest year available, showed that 6.8 percent of deaths from
all causes were attributable to motor vehicle traffic crashes for Native Americans and more than
4.7 percent for Hispanics or Latinos. For the non-Hispanic White population, the percentage of
those dying from traffic crashes was just below 1.6 percent, and for Black or African Americans
and Asians and Pacific Islanders, the percentages were 1.8 percent and 2.5 percent, respectively.
The Native American population is comparatively small and does not appear to be growing
proportionally. However, the Hispanic-Latino portion of the United States population in the year
2050 is projected to be double that population in 2000, according to projections by the U.S.
Census Bureau.

Findings

Drunk driving continues to play a major role in the motor vehicle traffic crash experience across
race, ethnic, age and gender divides. Data showed that the percentage of fatally injured drivers
who were drinking was highest for Native Americans (57%) and Hispanics or Latinos (47%).
This trend appeared to be independent of such socioeconomic influences as education levels or
the proportion of female-to-male drivers in the population of drivers killed.
Fatally injured Native American and Hispanic drivers, followed by African American drivers,
were less likely to hold valid licenses than White or Asian and Pacific Islander drivers.
Moreover, these Native American drivers were more likely to have had prior driving while
intoxicated (DWI) convictions and license suspensions, but African American drivers were the
most likely to have had speeding convictions and convictions for other moving violations.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: One-way dead-end street ()
Date: March 13, 2019 06:28PM

^^^ Worthless babble that someone completely misunderstood.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: NHTSA ()
Date: March 13, 2019 06:37PM

Easy to understand. Other than by those who don't want to...


10. CONCLUSIONS

From the descriptive statistics in this report, the concerns of the motor vehicle traffic safety
community, that minority populations apparently are overrepresented in the number of traffic
fatalities, may be well founded. Race and ethnicity data from FARS indicated that for people
killed in motor vehicle traffic crashes, those who can be classified as in minority populations,
(except Asians and Pacific Islanders) were more often driving while intoxicated, less often
validly licensed, and less likely to be wearing safety belts than the general population.
All minorities, however, including Asians and Pacific Islanders, were less likely to secure their
infants and toddlers in child safety seats than non-Hispanic Whites.

That Native Americans are more likely to drink and drive has been well documented in the past.
Moreover, Native Americans not driving are more likely to drink and be killed in the roadway by
motor vehicles. Note that fatally injured Native American women were driving while intoxicated
twice as often as women in the other racial and ethnic groups and nearly as often as Native
American men. Native American passenger vehicle occupants were also the least likely to wear
safety belts.

Second only to Native Americans, fatally injured Hispanic or Latino drivers had the highest rates
of driver and non-occupant alcohol levels. However, in contrast to Native Americans, only about
a third of alcohol-impaired drivers were female. This factor is significant because fatally injured
female Hispanic drivers comprised less than 20 percent of all Hispanic drivers killed. Together
with Native Americans, fatally injured Hispanic drivers had the highest rates of invalid licensure.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: One-way dead-end street ()
Date: March 13, 2019 06:52PM

What’s not clear is any connection at all to the economic importance of undocumented people

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: 4X!!! ()
Date: March 13, 2019 07:04PM

Right. Let's just ignore the economic and personal toll of their drunk driving at near a 4X rate. 4X!!!

As long as you can get your nails done cheap it's all good.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Brown Onion ()
Date: March 13, 2019 07:32PM

Yes the iguana eaters are truly great to the community. Get on my lawn Pedro and cut it you worthless maggot.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: ABC7 ()
Date: March 13, 2019 10:19PM

GERMANTOWN, Md. (ABC7) — Montgomery County authorities have arrested a man seven times for DUI in the last five years, and critics want to know why the court system continues to treat the motorist with "kid gloves."

Ever since his first DUI in October 2014, Joel Rivera Rodriguez, 35, of Clarksburg, has managed to evade any significant amount of incarceration time.

According to Maryland Judiciary Case Search, Rivera Rodriguez - an illegal immigrant from Guatemala - has six subsequent DUI arrests from April 2016, September 2016, December 2016, February 2017, December 2018 and February 2019.

The first three DUI arrests resulted in findings of guilt, minor fines and supervised court probation. The fourth DUI case was dropped for undisclosed reasons. The fifth, sixth and seventh DUI cases are still pending.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: jason j ()
Date: March 14, 2019 06:42AM

While the nation’s attention currently is focused on the southern border, what’s being forgotten is that millions of undocumented immigrants continue to live in the United States — and most of them work.

These workers play vital roles in the U.S. economy: erecting American buildings, picking American apples and grapes, and taking care of American babies.

Oh, and paying American taxes.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: FIFY ()
Date: March 14, 2019 12:59PM

jason j Wrote:
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> While the nation’s attention currently is
> focused on the southern border, what’s being
> forgotten is that millions of undocumented
> immigrants continue to live in the United States
> — and most of them work under the table for cash.
>
> These workers play vital roles in the U.S.
> economy: erecting American buildings, picking
> American apples and grapes, and taking care of
> American babies.
>
> Oh, and not paying American taxes.


^ FIFY

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Only their best ()
Date: March 14, 2019 02:47PM

They're sending us their rocket scientists, their doctors, their billionaires and entrepreneurs. Only the best I tells ya...

TUCSON, Ariz. – On Monday evening, when Ajo Station Border Patrol agents conducting a biometric records check during post arrest processing, they discovered the 31-year-old Aranda-Ramirez was convicted of aggravated rape in Tennessee in 2009. Aranda was sentenced to two years in prison for his crime before being removed from the country.

Aranda will remain in federal custody to face felony immigration prosecution, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2019/03/13/border-patrol-agents-arrest-previously-deported-rapist/

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Pay attention, idiots ()
Date: March 14, 2019 04:16PM

People feel forced to leave. Nobody sends them. This is why they are called refugees.

Meanwhile, we all pay the same taxes. If you think there’s some magical way to escape taxes, why aren’t you doing it?

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: solid truth. ()
Date: March 15, 2019 05:23PM

Without illegals we would be in serious economic trouble. That is why very little effort is made to remove them.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: dew drop inn ()
Date: March 16, 2019 11:59AM

I donate a few hundred dollars a year to Las Americas. They are a great group that really help our undocumented Americans.

http://las-americas.org/

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: mun7j ()
Date: March 16, 2019 12:22PM

dew drop inn Wrote:
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> I donate a few hundred dollars a year to Las
> Americas. They are a great group that really help
> our undocumented Americans.
>

You should donate $100,000 more every year to help pay for the parasitic fuckers.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Official FFU FIFY'er ()
Date: March 16, 2019 12:28PM

solid truth. Wrote:
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> Without illegals I wouldn't be able to make
> my gay porn home movieswe would be in serious economic
> trouble
. I only have to pay them $100 for a day of
> making them and That is why I love illegals very little effort is made to
> remove them
.

FIFY

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: We are the world ()
Date: March 16, 2019 12:33PM

solid truth. Wrote:
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> Without illegals we would be in serious economic
> trouble. That is why very little effort is made to
> remove them.

They’re just people. Give ‘em a hand or leave ‘em alone.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: county resident2468 ()
Date: March 16, 2019 03:55PM

dew drop inn Wrote:
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> I donate a few hundred dollars a year to Las
> Americas. They are a great group that really help
> our undocumented Americans.
>
> http://las-americas.org/


That looks like a great charity.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: warning ()
Date: March 16, 2019 04:11PM

county resident2468 Wrote:
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> dew drop inn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I donate a few hundred dollars a year to Las
> > Americas. They are a great group that really
> help
> > our undocumented Americans.
> >
> > http://las-americas.org/
>
>
> That looks like a great charity.


I hate to say it, but it's a scam. I donated $100 with my credit card and they charged $1000. It took two weeks worth of phone fighting to get them to fix it. Also, but card was used about a month later for $5000 worth of charges. I can't prove it was someone at las-americas that stole it (they never caught the thieves) but I would avoid.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: county resident2468 ()
Date: March 16, 2019 04:20PM

warning Wrote:
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> county resident2468 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dew drop inn Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I donate a few hundred dollars a year to Las
> > > Americas. They are a great group that really
> > help
> > > our undocumented Americans.
> > >
> > > http://las-americas.org/
> >
> >
> > That looks like a great charity.
>
>
> I hate to say it, but it's a scam. I donated $100
> with my credit card and they charged $1000. It
> took two weeks worth of phone fighting to get them
> to fix it. Also, but card was used about a month
> later for $5000 worth of charges. I can't prove
> it was someone at las-americas that stole it (they
> never caught the thieves) but I would avoid.


You should use American Express. One quick phone call and problems like that are gone instantly.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Real world ()
Date: March 16, 2019 05:24PM

A quality card-issuer would have had a fraud department called to tell you about the problem.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: skimma ()
Date: March 16, 2019 10:47PM

warning Wrote:
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> county resident2468 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dew drop inn Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I donate a few hundred dollars a year to Las
> > > Americas. They are a great group that really
> > help
> > > our undocumented Americans.
> > >
> > > http://las-americas.org/
> >
> >
> > That looks like a great charity.
>
>
> I hate to say it, but it's a scam. I donated $100
> with my credit card and they charged $1000. It
> took two weeks worth of phone fighting to get them
> to fix it. Also, but card was used about a month
> later for $5000 worth of charges. I can't prove
> it was someone at las-americas that stole it (they
> never caught the thieves) but I would avoid.


Theys employ illegals who be stealing yo money mang.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: johnny lib ()
Date: March 17, 2019 06:49AM

dew drop inn Wrote:
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> I donate a few hundred dollars a year to Las
> Americas. They are a great group that really help
> our undocumented Americans.
>
> http://las-americas.org/


Will they help bring more undocumented Americans here? That is what we really need. I would be willing to send them 500 bucks.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: foil hat. ()
Date: March 18, 2019 05:06AM

4X!!! Wrote:
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> Right. Let's just ignore the economic and
> personal toll of their drunk driving at near a 4X
> rate. 4X!!!
>
> As long as you can get your nails done cheap it's
> all good.

Sounds like Fox news has taken over your weak little mind.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Trump 2020 ()
Date: March 18, 2019 07:29AM

FYI-All boats bring rats.
Spend an hour in Strasberg VA with scots-Irish niggers.
Having illegitimate kids-they can’t even feed themselves, trading food stamps for booze and cigs and pills.
Breaking into cars.
Just bc they white don’t mean they don’t have nigger tendencies.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Stand back... ()
Date: March 18, 2019 10:06AM

Globalization calls the shots. It always has. It simply laughs at Trimp and his inane hallucinations.

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Re: The truth is that undocumented American workers are vital to the US economy
Posted by: Yellow Vested Merkel Warbler ()
Date: March 18, 2019 12:54PM

'Globalization' is kind of getting its bitch ass slapped right now if you hadn't noticed.

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