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GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: The next thing ()
Date: July 17, 2018 11:11AM

Already on the ropes with voters over being identified with his cruel family separation policies, GOP lawmakers are running away from Donald Trump as fast as they can over his widely denounced and anti-US comments while meeting with and playing spineless toady to Putin. This may be that last straw that no one can explain away that becomes to tipping point for the end of Donald Trump.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: The end is near ()
Date: July 17, 2018 11:21AM

Trump has crossed a line here. His time is over.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Count me out ()
Date: July 17, 2018 11:35AM

I wanted change, but this just isn't what I voted for.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Real Data ()
Date: July 17, 2018 11:37AM

You people are idiots.

Helsinki was about keeping Russia out of the North Korean situation, because things are about to start.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: xplmn ()
Date: July 17, 2018 11:37AM

The next thing Wrote:
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> Already on the ropes with voters over being
> identified with his cruel family separation
> policies, GOP lawmakers are running away from
> Donald Trump as fast as they can over his widely
> denounced and anti-US comments while meeting with
> and playing spineless toady to Putin. This may be
> that last straw that no one can explain away that
> becomes to tipping point for the end of Donald
> Trump.

Bullshit

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: July 17, 2018 11:54AM

The next thing Wrote:
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> Already on the ropes with voters over being
> identified with his cruel family separation
> policies, GOP lawmakers are running away from
> Donald Trump as fast as they can over his widely
> denounced and anti-US comments while meeting with
> and playing spineless toady to Putin. This may be
> that last straw that no one can explain away that
> becomes to tipping point for the end of Donald
> Trump.

Exactly. In a month, cancer will be more popular than trump

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: They really are Idiots ()
Date: July 17, 2018 11:59AM

Real Data Wrote:
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> You people are idiots.
>
> Helsinki was about keeping Russia out of the North
> Korean situation, because things are about to
> start.


Wow. This guy is a fucking idiot.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Give Me A Break ()
Date: July 17, 2018 12:11PM

I actually watched the press conference and the Putin interview yesterday.

Did any of you? Or are you just regurgitating what the media feeds you?

Bottom line... Trump’s comment regarding his own intelligence community’s assessment was poorly worded and stupid. But he did NOT side with Putin. He made a stupid equivocation. There’s a difference. Which people with the capacity for objective analytical thought can actually grasp.

As usual - our idiots in the media on the right and the left decided to fill in the blank regarding what was or wasn’t said. And the intellectually lazy public just ate it up, rather than listening to both Trump’s and Putin’s own words.

And liberals really SHOULD watch that Putin interview... and get a clue. Did he try and run a psy-op on the American public? Yes. As he so deftly pointed out though... was this “hacking” so effective that it actually controlled American citizen’s thoughts and caused them to change votes? What a joke - of course not. Why are the Dems running around trying to make the case that the stupid Russian psy-op was far more effective than it really was?!? Who is really undercutting the legitimacy of our elections at this point - Putin with his team of obnoxious prankster hackers, or all the Democrats running around squaking about hysterical “collusion” allegations and making it sound like Putin is the great and powerful Oz instead of some tin pot dictator?!?

I can appreciate people disliking Trump, and disliking his policies. The Russia collusion hysterics just make the Democrats look like dysfunctional sore losers incapable of selling the public on their own policies...

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: ctom ()
Date: July 17, 2018 12:38PM

Give Me A Break Wrote:
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> I actually watched the press conference and the
> Putin interview yesterday.
>
> Did any of you? Or are you just regurgitating what
> the media feeds you?
>
> Bottom line... Trump’s comment regarding his own
> intelligence community’s assessment was poorly
> worded and stupid. But he did NOT side with Putin.
> He made a stupid equivocation. There’s a
> difference. Which people with the capacity for
> objective analytical thought can actually grasp.
>
> As usual - our idiots in the media on the right
> and the left decided to fill in the blank
> regarding what was or wasn’t said. And the
> intellectually lazy public just ate it up, rather
> than listening to both Trump’s and Putin’s own
> words.
>
> And liberals really SHOULD watch that Putin
> interview... and get a clue. Did he try and run a
> psy-op on the American public? Yes. As he so
> deftly pointed out though... was this
> “hacking” so effective that it actually
> controlled American citizen’s thoughts and
> caused them to change votes? What a joke - of
> course not. Why are the Dems running around trying
> to make the case that the stupid Russian psy-op
> was far more effective than it really was?!? Who
> is really undercutting the legitimacy of our
> elections at this point - Putin with his team of
> obnoxious prankster hackers, or all the Democrats
> running around squaking about hysterical
> “collusion” allegations and making it sound
> like Putin is the great and powerful Oz instead of
> some tin pot dictator?!?
>
> I can appreciate people disliking Trump, and
> disliking his policies. The Russia collusion
> hysterics just make the Democrats look like
> dysfunctional sore losers incapable of selling the
> public on their own policies...

Well said. I voted for Trump for two reasons. One, to put the illegals on the run and two, to support the 2nd Amendment. He's making good on both campaign promises.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: What the numbers say... ()
Date: July 17, 2018 12:38PM

^^^ Tell Madison Avenue that their ads are a waste and have no effect on the habits of consumers. Your words would be greeted with howls of laughter.

Meanwhile, the margins of Trump's unexpected wins in close states were so small that even low-ball estimates of the effects of troll-farm fake news turn out to be enough to have swung the election.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: 6jfmm ()
Date: July 17, 2018 12:57PM

> Bottom line... Trump’s comment regarding his own
> intelligence community’s assessment was poorly
> worded and stupid. But he did NOT side with Putin.
> He made a stupid equivocation.

I did watch the press conference. Not live but I did watch it. I also listened to interviews on how his comments were interpreted, not just here but in Russia and elsewhere. You say he made a stupid equivocation but did not side with Russia. Among Russians I heard though, that stupid equivocation allowed them to believe that Mr. Trump was siding with them. It was hardly a "Mr. Gorbachov, tear down this wall" statement.

Mr. Trump speaks as if he is the audience of his own comments. He either does not get or does not care that the way he speaks can be misinterpreted by those whose views differ from his own. Even in domestic politics this can have the potential to cause problems. (Charlottesville for example). In diplomacy the consequences can be worse. There is a time for trusting your instincts and being genuine. There is a time to admit you don't have the knowledge and experience, and that you need to be guided by others. Theresa May and now Putin. Mr. Trump has shown he needs help when it comes to diplomacy.

You are missing the point about the Mueller investigation. On this your efforts at objectivity fail.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: We need better ()
Date: July 17, 2018 01:00PM

Count me out Wrote:
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> I wanted change, but this just isn't what I voted for.

I didn't want any part of Hillary, but Trump has not turned out to be as good an alternative as I hoped he might. This is actually getting kind of insane now.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Give me a break ()
Date: July 17, 2018 01:06PM

^^^ Seriously?!?

Why don’t you ask a Trump voter why they voted the way they did? You might get a a surprising list of answers that have nothing to do with troll farms.

The crap the troll farms peddled on social media was completely irrelevant, and only liked and shared by people who were obviously already pro trump anyway.

The Russian psy-op targeting the DNCs emails, and releasing ones that revealed that the DNC basically rigged their own primary debates in favor of Hilary didn’t influence independents one way or another. The emails did piss off far leftist Bernie supporters - but those people were NEVER going to vote for Trump, and were unlikely to support Hilary either anyway.

The issues that DID sway independents toward Trump in swing states were things like 2nd amendment rights, differences of opinion on an acceptable immigration policy for the country, differences of opinion on the best economic policies for America, differences of opinion on abortion and religion’s role in our society and a concern about todsy’s Democratic candidates picking a Supreme Court justice with respect to those issues, and last but not least, the general perception that even though Trump is a completely obnoxious New Yorker... Hillary is a completely corrupt and dishonest career politician, who came across as feeling entitled to the presidency. Her attitude was a major turn off to many moderates... even more so than Trump’s boorishness.

But hey - go ahead and keep on telling yourself this all turned out this way because of Russian troll farms. Then please - by all means - nominate Pocahontas or Kampala Harris or one of the Democratic party’s new heroes, who all seem to have failed history class when it comes to whether or not Socislism has EVER worked in real world examples... go ahead. Nominate a communist. You’ll get your ass kicked again in 2020.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: True Blue! ()
Date: July 17, 2018 01:08PM

Give me a break Wrote:
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> ^^^ Seriously?!?
>
> Why don’t you ask a Trump voter why they voted
> the way they did? You might get a a surprising
> list of answers that have nothing to do with troll
> farms.
>
> The crap the troll farms peddled on social media
> was completely irrelevant, and only liked and
> shared by people who were obviously already pro
> trump anyway.
>
> The Russian psy-op targeting the DNCs emails, and
> releasing ones that revealed that the DNC
> basically rigged their own primary debates in
> favor of Hilary didn’t influence independents
> one way or another. The emails did piss off far
> leftist Bernie supporters - but those people were
> NEVER going to vote for Trump, and were unlikely
> to support Hilary either anyway.
>
> The issues that DID sway independents toward Trump
> in swing states were things like 2nd amendment
> rights, differences of opinion on an acceptable
> immigration policy for the country, differences of
> opinion on the best economic policies for America,
> differences of opinion on abortion and
> religion’s role in our society and a concern
> about todsy’s Democratic candidates picking a
> Supreme Court justice with respect to those
> issues, and last but not least, the general
> perception that even though Trump is a completely
> obnoxious New Yorker... Hillary is a completely
> corrupt and dishonest career politician, who came
> across as feeling entitled to the presidency. Her
> attitude was a major turn off to many moderates...
> even more so than Trump’s boorishness.
>
> But hey - go ahead and keep on telling yourself
> this all turned out this way because of Russian
> troll farms. Then please - by all means - nominate
> Pocahontas or Kampala Harris or one of the
> Democratic party’s new heroes, who all seem to
> have failed history class when it comes to whether
> or not Socislism has EVER worked in real world
> examples... go ahead. Nominate a communist.
> You’ll get your ass kicked again in 2020.

Hey, you really do not know much.

So much of what Russia did was voter suppression.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Comparative economic systems ()
Date: July 17, 2018 01:17PM

True Blue! Wrote:
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> Hey, you really do not know much.

Including the very significant difference between socialism and communism. What a total dope this "Give me a break" clown is.
!

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Give me a break ()
Date: July 17, 2018 01:37PM

Voter Suppression was the issue?

So what you’re saying is that after emails written by DNC officials were hacked and publicly released... your own party’s voters became disheartened and failed to turn out?

Why not get pissed off at your own people’s dysfunction... instead of wasting time pointing outside the tent at third parties? Seems like your party needs some reform - no? But hey... keep telling yourselves it’s all Russia’s fault moderate Democrats turned their backs on you. Whatever.

True blue - I’m well aware of the differences between socialism and communism. I majored in Economics, and understand the difference between a pure top down command economy, and a highly highly regulated economy like you see in small Scandinavian countries like Sweden. I used the term communist loosely. Just like your new found hero - the chick from New York who popped up just this morning spouting anti Semitic propaganda uses the distinction “Democratic Socialist” loosely. Because policies like guaranteed minimum income, “affordable” housing for everyone, “free” college for everyone, and “free” healthcare, and open borders are pretty much to the left of Sweden. But hey - maybe take s look at Venezuela or Cuba and let me know how that has worked out. Except even those countries don’t have open borders... not that anyone’s dying to move there. Hmmm

Fun arguing with you all. Bottom line though... Hillary lost, Republicans got control of the House and Senate, Trump is going to put not one, but TWO justices on the court... and Republicans are likely to hold the Senate come November. That’s the way it is... get used to it. You’re all stuck with the orange guy for at least another 2.5 years.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: True Blue! ()
Date: July 17, 2018 01:59PM

True Blue! Wrote:
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> Give me a break Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ^^^ Seriously?!?
> >
> > Why don’t you ask a Trump voter why they
> voted
> > the way they did? You might get a a surprising
> > list of answers that have nothing to do with
> troll
> > farms.
> >
> > The crap the troll farms peddled on social
> media
> > was completely irrelevant, and only liked and
> > shared by people who were obviously already pro
> > trump anyway.
> >
> > The Russian psy-op targeting the DNCs emails,
> and
> > releasing ones that revealed that the DNC
> > basically rigged their own primary debates in
> > favor of Hilary didn’t influence independents
> > one way or another. The emails did piss off far
> > leftist Bernie supporters - but those people
> were
> > NEVER going to vote for Trump, and were
> unlikely
> > to support Hilary either anyway.
> >
> > The issues that DID sway independents toward
> Trump
> > in swing states were things like 2nd amendment
> > rights, differences of opinion on an acceptable
> > immigration policy for the country, differences
> of
> > opinion on the best economic policies for
> America,
> > differences of opinion on abortion and
> > religion’s role in our society and a concern
> > about todsy’s Democratic candidates picking a
> > Supreme Court justice with respect to those
> > issues, and last but not least, the general
> > perception that even though Trump is a
> completely
> > obnoxious New Yorker... Hillary is a completely
> > corrupt and dishonest career politician, who
> came
> > across as feeling entitled to the presidency.
> Her
> > attitude was a major turn off to many
> moderates...
> > even more so than Trump’s boorishness.
> >
> > But hey - go ahead and keep on telling yourself
> > this all turned out this way because of Russian
> > troll farms. Then please - by all means -
> nominate
> > Pocahontas or Kampala Harris or one of the
> > Democratic party’s new heroes, who all seem
> to
> > have failed history class when it comes to
> whether
> > or not Socislism has EVER worked in real world
> > examples... go ahead. Nominate a communist.
> > You’ll get your ass kicked again in 2020.
>
> Hey, you really do not know much.
>
> So much of what Russia did was voter suppression.

Wow! Traitor, Nice try with the deflection... that fact is Russian hacked our democracy to help Trumpit win!

Now the unmanly, coward Trumpit is cuddling up with the enemy!!

Vote Democrat to save the United States!!!

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: what a dumbfuck ()
Date: July 17, 2018 02:31PM

What the numbers say... Wrote:
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> Meanwhile, the margins of Trump's unexpected wins
> in close states were so small that even low-ball
> estimates of the effects of troll-farm fake news
> turn out to be enough to have swung the election.


Bwahahahahahahahahah. You actually believe that the Facebook trolls swung the election! Congratulations, you might be the most retarded person on the internet. Did you get duped by a big bad Russian troll?

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Hawkeye Pierce ()
Date: July 17, 2018 02:33PM

Libtards keep wishing each of their tantrums will be THE ONE.

You people are fucking hilarious.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: July 17, 2018 02:38PM

what a dumbfuck Wrote:
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> What the numbers say... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Meanwhile, the margins of Trump's unexpected
> wins
> > in close states were so small that even
> low-ball
> > estimates of the effects of troll-farm fake
> news
> > turn out to be enough to have swung the
> election.
>
>
> Bwahahahahahahahahah. You actually believe that
> the Facebook trolls swung the election!
> Congratulations, you might be the most retarded
> person on the internet. Did you get duped by a
> big bad Russian troll?

Yeah, like he won the popular vote!

Hahahahaha!!

Such a loser.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: don't hate the player ()
Date: July 17, 2018 02:41PM

Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
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> what a dumbfuck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What the numbers say... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > Meanwhile, the margins of Trump's unexpected
> > wins
> > > in close states were so small that even
> > low-ball
> > > estimates of the effects of troll-farm fake
> > news
> > > turn out to be enough to have swung the
> > election.
> >
> >
> > Bwahahahahahahahahah. You actually believe
> that
> > the Facebook trolls swung the election!
> > Congratulations, you might be the most retarded
> > person on the internet. Did you get duped by a
> > big bad Russian troll?
>
> Yeah, like he won the popular vote!
>
> Hahahahaha!!
>
> Such a loser.


Irrelevant, dope.

He won enough votes in the right states to claim the presidency.

Sorry, you've yet to figure that out, dope.

If you don't like that, you don't like our Constitution. It really is that simple.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: July 17, 2018 02:44PM

don't hate the player Wrote:
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> Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > what a dumbfuck Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What the numbers say... Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > >
> > > > Meanwhile, the margins of Trump's
> unexpected
> > > wins
> > > > in close states were so small that even
> > > low-ball
> > > > estimates of the effects of troll-farm fake
> > > news
> > > > turn out to be enough to have swung the
> > > election.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bwahahahahahahahahah. You actually believe
> > that
> > > the Facebook trolls swung the election!
> > > Congratulations, you might be the most
> retarded
> > > person on the internet. Did you get duped by
> a
> > > big bad Russian troll?
> >
> > Yeah, like he won the popular vote!
> >
> > Hahahahaha!!
> >
> > Such a loser.
>
>
> Irrelevant, dope.
>
> He won enough votes in the right states to claim
> the presidency.
>
> Sorry, you've yet to figure that out, dope.
>
> If you don't like that, you don't like our
> Constitution. It really is that simple.

Facts are facts... Trumpit is lost the popular vote.

Suck it! Loser!!

Go back to Russian, you traitor!!!

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: you are doing Vlad's bidding ()
Date: July 17, 2018 03:02PM

Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
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> Facts are facts... Trumpit is lost the popular
> vote.

The fact is Trump won the electoral college in the manner prescribed by our Constitution.

"Trumpit is lost the popular vote."

Looks like someone has trouble conversing in simple English sentences.

Are you one of those Russian trolls? It would explain why you don't understand how someone wins the presidency in this country.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Give me a break ()
Date: July 17, 2018 03:40PM

As usual, the Democrats weighing in on this thread have stopped even attempting to make a coherent argument, and resorted to saying things like, “traitor!”

I’m waiting for racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobia, and... wait for it... Nazi.

It’s pretty ironic... the same party who has decided their new favorite “it girl” - a young lady who is a self described “Democratic Socialist” and who spouted off ridiculous anti-Semitic talking points about the “occupation of Palestine” - this same party feels they have the moral high ground and can run around labeling everyone else “Nazis.”

Newsflash... you all spout off with these labels so frequently, they have lost all meaning and no one gives a shit what you say anymore...

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Ruskies got me ()
Date: July 17, 2018 03:51PM

I was gonna vote for Hillary until I read online about pizzagate and about how the Clintons were rapists and murderers so I jumped on the Trump train.


But now life is so unbearable I can't take it any more. All of us Trump traitors should kill ourselves for being so pathetically naiive to believe internet.

Whoever the DNC puts out next is my new hero. I'll drape myself in pussy hats and muslim garb and do whatever it takes to stop Trump the Russian double agent.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: July 17, 2018 04:04PM

you are doing Vlad's bidding Wrote:
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> Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Facts are facts... Trumpit is lost the popular
> > vote.
>
> The fact is Trump won the electoral college in the
> manner prescribed by our Constitution.
>
> "Trumpit is lost the popular vote."
>
> Looks like someone has trouble conversing in
> simple English sentences.
>
> Are you one of those Russian trolls? It would
> explain why you don't understand how someone wins
> the presidency in this country.

You seem to be the russian troll given how hard you are deflecting from the real topic.

Nice day in Moscow?

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Give me a break ()
Date: July 17, 2018 04:05PM

Ruskies got me Wrote:
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> I was gonna vote for Hillary until I read online
> about pizzagate and about how the Clintons were
> rapists and murderers so I jumped on the Trump
> train.
>
>
> But now life is so unbearable I can't take it any
> more. All of us Trump traitors should kill
> ourselves for being so pathetically naiive to
> believe internet.
>
> Whoever the DNC puts out next is my new hero. I'll
> drape myself in pussy hats and muslim garb and do
> whatever it takes to stop Trump the Russian double
> agent.

You’re on to something... for the next “Women’s March” featuring speakers like Linda Sarsour, and people who are both “pro women” and “anti islamophobia” maybe these genius Democratic activists can come up with a pink pussy burka to wear. Because that’s how ridiculous these people are.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: The real issue is ()
Date: July 17, 2018 04:05PM

We were duped by the Russians and it wasn't our fault we voted for a guy worse than Hitler.

We are victims too and want to join you in a safe space

love trumps hate comrade

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: are you mental or a Russian? ()
Date: July 17, 2018 04:43PM

Give me a break Wrote:
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> Ruskies got me Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I was gonna vote for Hillary until I read
> online
> > about pizzagate and about how the Clintons were
> > rapists and murderers so I jumped on the Trump
> > train.
> >
> >
> > But now life is so unbearable I can't take it
> any
> > more. All of us Trump traitors should kill
> > ourselves for being so pathetically naiive to
> > believe internet.
> >
> > Whoever the DNC puts out next is my new hero.
> I'll
> > drape myself in pussy hats and muslim garb and
> do
> > whatever it takes to stop Trump the Russian
> double
> > agent.
>
> You’re on to something... for the next
> “Women’s March” featuring speakers like
> Linda Sarsour, and people who are both “pro
> women” and “anti islamophobia” maybe these
> genius Democratic activists can come up with a
> pink pussy burka to wear. Because that’s how
> ridiculous these people are.


What's the real topic I'm deflecting from? Someone made a statement that they believed the Russian troll farms actually impacted the outcome of the election.

Then, I laughed at them for being a ridiculous moron for believing such nonsense.

After that, you came in with your predictable, tired, and old "she won the popular vote" whining.

To which I replied the proper way to win the presidential race is prescribed in the US Constitution and that is to win the electoral college.

You then proceeded to come back in some broken English nonsense about winning the popular vote once AGAIN.

I pointed out your broken English and once again informed you on the manner in which the Constitution outlines the process for winning a Presidential race.

Now you are on a "deflecting" talking point when it was you who took the conversation off course with your whining about the popular vote.

Why is it that every dialogue you engage in is predictable? Are there only so many scripts you Russian trolls use?

Here is your standard modus operendi:

1. Create divisive topic.
2. Respond to facts with "did you pull that out of your ass?"
3. Accuse people pointing out your logical flaws and your inability to write coherently of being Russian trolls.
4. Accuse people who have engaged in legitimate conversation of "deflecting" from the topic (even though it is you who took it off topic, ie. like bringing up popular vote for no reason).

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Nonpartisan ()
Date: July 17, 2018 05:18PM

The real point in all this is that Trump is illegitimate. He lost the popular vote (by a lot) and had foreign powers carry him to an electoral college win. By rights, he should not be President and he knows this.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: kk6bm ()
Date: July 17, 2018 06:37PM

Sway independents toward Trump? Studies done on swing state voters after 2016 showed that people who voted for Trump in swing states voted for Romney in 2012. The difference proved to be the drop off in people voting for Clinton.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Tovarich ()
Date: July 17, 2018 07:09PM

Just what Russia wanted from them.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: The cheese stands alone ()
Date: July 17, 2018 07:13PM

Hell, TRUMP is abandoning Trump at this point. Such a transparent loser.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Logic much? ()
Date: July 17, 2018 08:10PM

kk6bm Wrote:
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> Sway independents toward Trump? Studies done on
> swing state voters after 2016 showed that people
> who voted for Trump in swing states voted for
> Romney in 2012. The difference proved to be the
> drop off in people voting for Clinton.

Which does not refute the claim that it swung votes, eh? If anything, it supports it.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Real Data ()
Date: July 17, 2018 08:29PM

Nonpartisan Wrote:
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> The real point in all this is that Trump is
> illegitimate. He lost the popular vote (by a lot)
> and had foreign powers carry him to an electoral
> college win. By rights, he should not be President
> and he knows this.

God, What a fucking idiot.......

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Nonpartisan ()
Date: July 17, 2018 08:42PM

Trump is an emotional cripple. It is his ego that inspires him, not by any means his intellect.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Libs Pissing Into The Wind ()
Date: July 17, 2018 08:49PM

Not a word about the substance of the talks, just bs about an off the cuff remark, from a libtard reported question. Trump should learn , never give a press conference unless hes got pc speech writers and teleprompter like Obama and stop the stupid tweeting

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: no logic in your post ()
Date: July 17, 2018 08:51PM

Logic much? Wrote:
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> kk6bm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sway independents toward Trump? Studies done
> on
> > swing state voters after 2016 showed that
> people
> > who voted for Trump in swing states voted for
> > Romney in 2012. The difference proved to be
> the
> > drop off in people voting for Clinton.
>
> Which does not refute the claim that it swung
> votes, eh? If anything, it supports it.

No, actually it doesn't. In fact, it doesn't say anything about causation. Unless you have some data to support your claim, you're shooting blanks.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Your A Laughable Horses Ass ()
Date: July 17, 2018 08:53PM

>We were duped by the Russians and it wasn't our fault we voted for a guy worse than Hitler.

Stupidist libtard statement of the year, Hillary lost as she was NO GOOD, and you libtard ass speaking of we. LOL you lieing asshole you voted for Hillary

Get your stupid ass back over the Wa Po comments to bitch with your lib circus about Trump as usual

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Whoa Boy Hold My Horses ()
Date: July 17, 2018 09:00PM

Sorry ^^ just saw you were being sarcastic toward libs

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Thats Telling It As it Is ()
Date: July 17, 2018 09:08PM

>Hillary is a completely corrupt and dishonest career politician, who came across as feeling entitled to the presidency. Her attitude was a major turn off to many moderates... even more so than Trump’s boorishness.

Exactly as well her deplorables, sue gun makers , the NRA and her other load of pure crap coupled with her supreme smugness Im the next President you peons Trump cant beat ME

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: True Blue! ()
Date: July 17, 2018 09:15PM

The next thing Wrote:
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> Already on the ropes with voters over being
> identified with his cruel family separation
> policies, GOP lawmakers are running away from
> Donald Trump as fast as they can over his widely
> denounced and anti-US comments while meeting with
> and playing spineless toady to Putin. This may be
> that last straw that no one can explain away that
> becomes to tipping point for the end of Donald
> Trump.

Was this the final straw for the GOP faithful?

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Name When Tard ()
Date: July 17, 2018 09:22PM

The real point in all this is that Trump is illegitimate. He lost the popular vote

When any President was ever elected by popular vote, You would defend the hell out of a Hillary win by the electoral college vote you worthless liberal lying hypocrite

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: He’s toast ()
Date: July 17, 2018 10:11PM

Trump — not to mention his airhead followers — is in crash and burn mode. Expect him to do even dumber than usual things in the near term.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Scotus Pick Coming and More ()
Date: July 17, 2018 10:38PM

It will be forgotten by Tuesday week libs, If Hillary had won, we would be in the throes of WW3 right now, count your blessings

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: vgciycytc ()
Date: July 17, 2018 10:43PM

All of the above posts are irrelevant.

Trump is an independent and always will be - that is the reason he won.

Once idiots realize Trump is not part of the GOP, they will wake up to reality.

People are done with the Red and Blue arguing like children. It is evident here and everywhere. The childish two party system is EXACTLY what Americans want gone.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Endless Idiots and Retards ()
Date: July 17, 2018 10:49PM

Next week we will be talking about a new and improved end of Trump......lol

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: fonz says turn out the lights ()
Date: July 17, 2018 10:57PM


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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Trump is done ()
Date: July 18, 2018 09:02AM

Once again, Trump defenders are forced to invent absurd fantasy lands where there might be some marginally rational ways of explaining away his gross criminal corruption and stupidity. The case against him has gone well past reasonable doubt at this point. For the good of the nation, he must be constrained somehow

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Jealous of Obama ()
Date: July 18, 2018 09:46AM

Trump is done Wrote:
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> Once again, Trump defenders are forced to invent
> absurd fantasy lands where there might be some
> marginally rational ways of explaining away his
> gross criminal corruption and stupidity. The case
> against him has gone well past reasonable doubt at
> this point. For the good of the nation, he must
> be constrained somehow
Trump fools are also completely jealous of Obama’s popularity, with Obama leaving with highest approval rating ever. He was a true leader, helping country come back from a near depression. Trump is completely benefiting from Obama and should be thanking him, instead of insulting him

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Boarded Up Bankrupt Courts ()
Date: July 18, 2018 11:02AM

>He was a true leader, helping country come back from a near depression

Lying hysterical liberal , what a good laugh you are. Obama did nothing but social engineering his 8 years, try that bs on young stupid ones who don't know squat, everyone else is very aware of the BANKRUPT OBAMA ECONOMEY which was Zip, and RAISED THE DEFICIT 10 BILLION WITH WELFARE FOR THOSE OUT OF A JOB AND THE LAZY DEMOCRATS

Liberals flat out lying over and over again as DEMOCRATS and Banks caused the hyperinflation that caused the real estate crash and took many jobs that were thriving from the real estate high rolling along in travel, construction, new cars, additions to homes with give away home equity loans , Democrats and Banks giving loans for 425K townhouses to 35 k cashiers made the mess, and they want to start that up again!

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: the deflector is deflecting ()
Date: July 18, 2018 01:48PM

Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
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> You seem to be the russian troll given how hard
> you are deflecting from the real topic.
>
> Nice day in Moscow?


What's the real topic I'm deflecting from? Someone made a statement that they believed the Russian troll farms actually impacted the outcome of the election.

Then, I laughed at them for being a ridiculous moron for believing such nonsense.

After that, you came in with your predictable, tired, and old "she won the popular vote" whining.

To which I replied the proper way to win the presidential race is prescribed in the US Constitution and that is to win the electoral college.

You then proceeded to come back in some broken English nonsense about winning the popular vote once AGAIN.

I pointed out your broken English and once again informed you on the manner in which the Constitution outlines the process for winning a Presidential race.

Now you are on a "deflecting" talking point when it was you who took the conversation off course with your whining about the popular vote.

Why is it that every dialogue you engage in is predictable? Are there only so many scripts you Russian trolls use?

Here is your standard modus operendi:

1. Create divisive topic.
2. Respond to facts with "did you pull that out of your ass?"
3. Accuse people pointing out your logical flaws and your inability to write coherently of being Russian trolls.
4. Accuse people who have engaged in legitimate conversation of "deflecting" from the topic (even though it is you who took it off topic, ie. like bringing up popular vote for no reason).

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: July 18, 2018 01:49PM

GOP = Traitors.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: +1 ()
Date: July 18, 2018 01:55PM

Endless Idiots and Retards Wrote:
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> Next week we will be talking about a new and
> improved end of Trump......lol


+1

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: YOU = bottom feeding scum ()
Date: July 18, 2018 01:56PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> GOP = Traitors.

You don't know enough about this country, our laws or our politics to even know what a traitor is.

You are parroting a talking point given to you by your politburo.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: G2 Needs to be Deported ()
Date: July 18, 2018 01:59PM

First they need to find a country that will take the idiot, no takers found

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Hey rookies... ()
Date: July 18, 2018 02:04PM

Just a reminder that the Great Recession was created between 2002 and 2006 by cowboy capitalists on Wall Street and idiot right-wing regulators in Washington. None of it needed to happen, but it did thanks to persistent and deliberate GOP malfeasance.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: in the know................... ()
Date: July 18, 2018 02:14PM

Hey rookies... Wrote:
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> Just a reminder that the Great Recession was
> created between 2002 and 2006 by cowboy
> capitalists on Wall Street and idiot right-wing
> regulators in Washington. None of it needed to
> happen, but it did thanks to persistent and
> deliberate GOP malfeasance.


Pretty fucking irrelevant to the thread, ya big dope.

In any event, it actually occurred due to the policies of Bill Clinton and accelerated under the Democrats once they took control of Congress in 2006.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Hey rookies ()
Date: July 18, 2018 02:40PM

in the know................... Wrote:
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> Hey rookies... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just a reminder that the Great Recession was
> > created between 2002 and 2006 by cowboy
> > capitalists on Wall Street and idiot right-wing
> > regulators in Washington. None of it needed to
> > happen, but it did thanks to persistent and
> > deliberate GOP malfeasance.
>
> Pretty fucking irrelevant to the thread, ya big dope.

July 18 — 11:02 AM

> In any event, it actually occurred due to the
> policies of Bill Clinton and accelerated under the
> Democrats once they took control of Congress in 2006.

That’s simply stupid shit. There were no issues until the Bushies tried to kill the GSE’s and turn the mission over to Wall Street. You have not begun to scratch the surface of what happened in those years.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Orange Ass Clown! ()
Date: July 18, 2018 03:24PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> GOP = Traitors.

Yep, time for the GOPurge

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: The dumb is strong with you ()
Date: July 18, 2018 05:18PM

Hey rookies Wrote:
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> in the know................... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey rookies... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Just a reminder that the Great Recession was
> > > created between 2002 and 2006 by cowboy
> > > capitalists on Wall Street and idiot
> right-wing
> > > regulators in Washington. None of it needed
> to
> > > happen, but it did thanks to persistent and
> > > deliberate GOP malfeasance.
> >
> > Pretty fucking irrelevant to the thread, ya big
> dope.
>
> July 18 — 11:02 AM

Responding to another irrelevant post doesn’t make yours any more relevant to the thread in any event, even a moron can figure out how to quote a previous post in order to respond to it.

> > In any event, it actually occurred due to the
> > policies of Bill Clinton and accelerated under
> the
> > Democrats once they took control of Congress in
> 2006.
>
> That’s simply stupid shit. There were no issues
> until the Bushies tried to kill the GSE’s and
> turn the mission over to Wall Street. You have not
> begun to scratch the surface of what happened in
> those years.

And you think you have? For Allah’s sake, my good man, your reflexive histrionic George Bush whines were stale a decade ago. You think they’re any more fresh today?

It doesn’t get any dumber than you.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: True Blue! ()
Date: July 18, 2018 05:49PM

Orange Ass Clown! Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GOP = Traitors.
>
> Yep, time for the GOPurge

Time to votes these clowns out of office and impeach the rest.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Logic much? ()
Date: July 18, 2018 10:17PM

no logic in your post Wrote:
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> No, actually it doesn't. In fact, it doesn't say
> anything about causation. Unless you have some
> data to support your claim, you're shooting
> blanks.

I realize I'm arguing with an unarmed foe, but try to keep up here. Based on your assertions:
1) Independents were not swayed by Russian meddling
2) GOP folks from 2012 remained GOP folks in 2016
3) Some people switched from Dem to GOP in 2016

#2 and #3 don't support #1: Russian meddling was apparently aimed at swaying folks toward GOP. Surprise, folks who voted GOP in 2012 still get only one vote, so if they were swayed to be more GOP (whatever that means), it would be invisible. And if people switched from Dem to GOP in 2016, that *could* mean they were swayed by Russian meddling. It does NOT prove that they were; we'll never know -- even if we could somehow question those folks, they of course aren't aware that they were meddled with.

So I don't need data to support my assertion beyond YOUR assertions, which is all I was discussing.

Get it? Got it? Good.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Understand This ()
Date: July 18, 2018 10:30PM

Hillary was a horrible Democratic candidate and she made herself more horrible by her words and smug Its mine all mine actions during the debate, Russians ? , horseshit blame Hillary and the DNC

Whining liberals forever now, she lost get over it the Supreme Court will be a conservative court for years, blame yourselves Democrats for your shitty unconstitutional gun control grabs, your proposing lawsuits against gun makers and your support for illegals, not Americans

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: By the numbers... ()
Date: July 19, 2018 10:56AM

Logic much? Wrote:
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> It does NOT prove that they were; we'll never know --
> even if we could somehow question those folks, they of
> course aren't aware that they were meddled with. So I
> don't need data to support my assertion beyond YOUR
> assertions, which is all I was discussing.
> Get it? Got it? Good.

Attention, low-lifes and down-scalers. While entirely beyond the scope of your own mathematical comprehension, it is quite possible to model a variety of situations in which primary data are not or not readily available. This in fact is done all the time while you aren't really watching. When done with respect to the 2016 election, it turns out that -- as a sudden and discrete event -- Comey's last minute interference may have had an even greater affect, but that accumulations over time of fake news and false messaging planted across the internet by Russian troll farms could alone have accounted for the tiny margins that Trump won by in key swing states.

Those are the facts, whether you choose to recognize them or instead to run away from them in terror.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: I believe Putin Not USA ()
Date: July 19, 2018 11:13AM

Been a couple days now - I havent checked the new this morning have the 30% forgotten Trump's treason yet?

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: Logic much? ()
Date: July 19, 2018 12:27PM

By the numbers... Wrote:
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> Logic much? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It does NOT prove that they were; we'll never
> know --
> > even if we could somehow question those folks,
> they of
> > course aren't aware that they were meddled with.
> So I
> > don't need data to support my assertion beyond
> YOUR
> > assertions, which is all I was discussing.
> > Get it? Got it? Good.
>
> Attention, low-lifes and down-scalers. While
> entirely beyond the scope of your own mathematical
> comprehension, it is quite possible to model a
> variety of situations in which primary data are
> not or not readily available. This in fact is
> done all the time while you aren't really
> watching. When done with respect to the 2016
> election, it turns out that -- as a sudden and
> discrete event -- Comey's last minute interference
> may have had an even greater affect, but that
> accumulations over time of fake news and false
> messaging planted across the internet by Russian
> troll farms could alone have accounted for the
> tiny margins that Trump won by in key swing
> states.
>
> Those are the facts, whether you choose to
> recognize them or instead to run away from them in
> terror.

"May have" and "could have" are not facts. They are unsupported hypotheses. Unless you have the actual factual data supporting those hypotheses, it is probably best you sit down and shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself again.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: By the numbers ()
Date: July 19, 2018 02:06PM

Pretty obvious that you’re one of those low-lifes and down-scalers who just don’t understand what’s going on here. Keep in mind that dumb is always a disadvantage.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: the dumb get dumber ()
Date: July 19, 2018 02:16PM

By the numbers Wrote:
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> Pretty obvious that you’re one of those
> low-lifes and down-scalers who just don’t
> understand what’s going on here. Keep in mind
> that dumb is always a disadvantage.


It's pretty obvious you can't back your bullshit up, so you just pile on with more bullshit. If you think anyone is buying your bullshit, you are even dumber than I thought - and that's pretty fucking dumb.

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Re: GOP is abandoning Trump after Helsinki
Posted by: All Prisons Have Posh Child Care ()
Date: July 19, 2018 10:44PM

So when they parents go to prison AFTER COMMITING CRIMES, they are able to keep their children with them

>his cruel family separation policies

F You your full of shit as its just what YOU DID Obama, It what happens when you criminally sneak across the US Border, jail them and send them back, cross again 5 years hard labor Bring your kids along send and them you back, never let YOU ever come back in child abuser, catch you again life in prison, you want asylum, ask Mexico not The USA

Come legal or stay home

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