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Centreville: Little girl murdered by her brother with Dad's pistol
Posted by: bearcat22 ()
Date: June 12, 2018 12:19PM

This is a VERY old debate. Sadly, the founding fathers were not always explicitly clear when they wrote the constitution and the bill of rights.

About 290 million people here, and it is estimated that there are five guns for every one citizen. Just maybe the National Guard does not require that much equipment.

It is just standard practice that a conservative candidate has to kiss the ass of the NRA in order to get elected in some states.

If you happen to dislike guns, and if you happen to distrust and hate the sort of people who LOVE guns, there is a simple solution.

Join the NRA. If millions of liberals joined the NRA, they would vote and effectively neutralize it forever. Simple.


Tell your friends. Do it today.

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Re: Centreville: Little girl murdered by her brother with Dad's pistol
Posted by: moron says what? ()
Date: June 12, 2018 12:36PM

So, you really don't know how the NRA works. Got it.

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Re: Centreville: Little girl murdered by her brother with Dad's pistol
Posted by: Grassroots ()
Date: June 12, 2018 01:14PM

moron says what? Wrote:
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> So, you really don't know how the NRA works. Got
> it.

I'm always amazed at how ignorant some people are of the NRA's organizational structure and wish to remain so.

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Re: Centreville: Little girl murdered by her brother with Dad's pistol
Posted by: bearcat22 ()
Date: June 12, 2018 02:07PM

By all means, educate us.

Tell us that the NRA does NOT pour huge amounts of money into campaigns to support pro gun candidates.

Tell us that Nazi candidates do NOT rely on endorsement from the NRA.

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Re: Centreville: Little girl murdered by her brother with Dad's pistol
Posted by: Mr-Know-It-All ()
Date: June 12, 2018 02:11PM

bearcat22 Wrote:
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> By all means, educate us.
>
> Tell us that the NRA does NOT pour huge amounts of
> money into campaigns to support pro gun
> candidates.
>
> Tell us that Nazi candidates do NOT rely on
> endorsement from the NRA.


Nazis believed in and practiced gun control/confiscation. It's highly doubtful that Nazis would approve of anything the NRA stands for.

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Re: Centreville: Little girl murdered by her brother with Dad's pistol
Posted by: bearcat22 ()
Date: June 12, 2018 02:35PM

An excellent point! Finally someone responds with facts.


Mr-Know-It-All Wrote:
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> bearcat22 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > By all means, educate us.
> >
> > Tell us that the NRA does NOT pour huge amounts
> of
> > money into campaigns to support pro gun
> > candidates.
> >
> > Tell us that Nazi candidates do NOT rely on
> > endorsement from the NRA.
>
>
> Nazis believed in and practiced gun
> control/confiscation. It's highly doubtful that
> Nazis would approve of anything the NRA stands
> for.

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Re: Centreville: Little girl murdered by her brother with Dad's pistol
Posted by: how dumb are you? ()
Date: June 12, 2018 02:47PM

bearcat22 Wrote:
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> By all means, educate us.
>
> Tell us that the NRA does NOT pour huge amounts of
> money into campaigns to support pro gun
> candidates.
>
> Tell us that Nazi candidates do NOT rely on
> endorsement from the NRA.


How many Nazi's ran for office in the recent past that were endorsed by the NRA?

After you're done researching that, you can go back and realize that you are lost. Your premise of having anti Second Amendment zealots join the NRA will somehow alter their actions is the faulty premise. A more intelligent individual would not need this pointed out to him.

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Re: Centreville: Little girl murdered by her brother with Dad's pistol
Posted by: hdhj ()
Date: June 12, 2018 02:59PM

bearcat22 Wrote:
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> By all means, educate us.
>
> Tell us that the NRA does NOT pour huge amounts of
> money into campaigns to support pro gun
> candidates.
>
> Tell us that Nazi candidates do NOT rely on
> endorsement from the NRA.

The NRA is a grass roots organization and the leadership expresses the will of the general membership. Look it up.

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Re: Centreville: Little girl murdered by her brother with Dad's pistol
Posted by: It's like this.... ()
Date: June 12, 2018 03:22PM

The Founders believed we have a natural right to self defense. Look at what is happening in Europe, especially the UK. The people willingly surrendered their guns to the government and now they are being thrown in prison for things they write on Facebook (see Tommy Robinson). Once you give up your right to bear arms, you will soon lose your right to free speech.

By the way, I used to be IN FAVOR of gun control. I am former Army as well. After the Newtown school massacre I petitioned my kids' elementary school to get a SRO (police officer) assigned, and they did. I think all schools should have armed security. But at the time I thought "assault weapons" should be outlawed.

Over the past few years I've studied the subject a lot and have learned the massive hypocrisy (and fallacy) of gun control. Why are the "elites" like Hollywood, politicians, rich people, allowed to have armed security but you and I are not? I don't know you from Adam but I think your life is every bit as important as anti-gunners such as George Clooney or Alyssa Milano (both of whom made a fortune off of guns in their movies).

If you take away suicides (2/3 of US gun deaths), gang/inner-city shootings, you have a gun death rate the same as most European countries. Pretty damn safe. In fact Switzerland has mandatory gun ownership and is the safest country in the world. Honduras has strict gun control and is perhaps the most violent country in the world. Mexico also has stringent gun control, the kind you could only dream about. But they have a massive gun-murder rate down there.

There are millions of gun owners who would willingly surrender their guns if ordered to by the government. But there are many, many millions more who will not, under any circumstance. It's our culture. It's in our collective DNA.

Good luck!

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Re: Centreville: Little girl murdered by her brother with Dad's pistol
Posted by: yxemt ()
Date: June 12, 2018 10:53PM

moron says what? Wrote:
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> So, you really don't know how the NRA works. Got
> it.

+1

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