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Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: life ()
Date: December 31, 2009 06:27PM

Bennefield and Kelly are getting released in the Spring after completing their 20 yr. sentences, wonder what life will be like for them?

"Elmer C. Bennefield and Frank D. Kelly were convicted of
murder, abduction, and use of a firearm in the commission of a
felony. On appeal, they contend that their retrial was barred by
the double jeopardy clauses of the United States and the Virginia
Constitutions. We disagree and affirm their convictions.
BACKGROUND
During the late hours of July 30, 1993, four high school
friends, Ryan Quinn, Jason McCree, Jacob Barnhart, and William
Crocker (the Crocker group), attempted to purchase marijuana from
Kelly, Bennefield and Rick Herring (the Kelly group). The
Crocker group gave the Kelly group one hundred fifty dollars, and
they followed the Kelly group by car to a restaurant. The Kelly
group travelled together in one car, and the Crocker group
followed in Crocker's car. The Kelly group joined with another
group (the Karim group) at the restaurant, and the Karim group,
in a third car, followed the Kelly and Crocker groups to a motel.
Someone in the Kelly group told the Crocker group that a man had
taken the drug purchase money and fled without delivering the
marijuana. On the pretext of finding the person who had taken
the money, the Crocker group followed the cars carrying the Kelly
and Karim groups to a deserted construction site. At the
construction site, members of the Kelly and Karim groups pointed
guns at the Crocker group members and ordered them to lie on the
ground. The Kelly and Karim group members shot three members of
the Crocker group, injuring Quinn and McCree and killing Crocker.
Barnhart fled, uninjured."

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Boophuzoid ()
Date: December 31, 2009 08:55PM

I remember when this happened. I was a junior at a neighboring high school. Some of my friends actually attended Crocker's funeral. Apparently they played sports with him growing up. Very sad, but apparently the guy was total trouble. Really got mixed up with a bunch of f'ing idiotjerks.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Big John ()
Date: January 01, 2010 01:27AM

So where are they now?


The Robinson HS Buyers:

Ryan Quinn - recovered from injuries
Jason McCree - recovered from injuries
Jacob Barnhart - still fleeing, uninjured?
William W Crocker - still dead

The Sellers:

Elmer C. Bennefield - 20 years prison, 5 suspended, out in 2010
Frank D. Kelly ("Frog") - 20 years prison, 5 suspended, out in 2010
Rick Herring - Pleaded guilty to Murder 1

The Karim Group - Lake Braddock

Khalid Karim (shooter) - Guilty by Jury of Murder 1, overturned on appeal.
Leon Peden - Sentenced to three years as a Juvenile, released at age 21.

Big John - Never located

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Condos starting from the low 400's to the low 600's ()
Date: January 01, 2010 01:41AM

You wonder what life will be like for them?

EXPENSIVE.

The cost of living in this area has gone up considerably since then.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: awkward ()
Date: January 01, 2010 07:41AM

I remember Willie Crocker. He was a year ahead of me at Robinson. I really hate to say this considering what happened to him, but I remember him being a real asshole. Kind of guy who would pick on you and piss you off to show off for his friends. No one deserves to get killed, but after that happened I remember everyone at school (when it started back up--he was killed over the summer)talking him up like he was some hero. I always thought that was stupid--He was trying to buy drugs and the deal went sour. I couldn't understand why people never talked about the negative side of what he was doing when he died. Having said that, sorry to speak ill of the dead. I wouldn't have wished that on him, I just wouldn't have sung his praises either.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 02, 2010 08:43AM

awkward Wrote:
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> I remember Willie Crocker. He was a year ahead of
> me at Robinson. I really hate to say this
> considering what happened to him, but I remember
> him being a real asshole. Kind of guy who would
> pick on you and piss you off to show off for his
> friends. No one deserves to get killed, but after
> that happened I remember everyone at school (when
> it started back up--he was killed over the
> summer)talking him up like he was some hero. I
> always thought that was stupid--He was trying to
> buy drugs and the deal went sour. I couldn't
> understand why people never talked about the
> negative side of what he was doing when he died.
> Having said that, sorry to speak ill of the dead.
> I wouldn't have wished that on him, I just
> wouldn't have sung his praises either.


justice was served.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: boredom ()
Date: January 02, 2010 08:52AM

And the point of bringing this up again was?

Hey guyz! Do you remember that Abraham Lincoln was murdered?!?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: tubby ()
Date: January 02, 2010 09:57AM

boredom Wrote:
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> Hey guyz! Do you remember that Abraham Lincoln
> was murdered?!?


No, Abe Lincoln was assassinated. There is a difference...look it up.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: January 02, 2010 02:13PM

What ever happened to the investigation of the death of Paul Jahoda, the kid who was found stuffed up a pipe back in the late 1960s?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: I cn rd th intrnt ()
Date: January 02, 2010 06:08PM

Three threads asking about young Paul Jahoda here on FFU and no answers. A quick search of my internet found:


Consider now the case of Paul Jahoda, also age 15, who resided here in the Washington metropolitan area.

Paul Jahoda's body was found May 7 inside a large storm sewer in the affluent Fairfax subdivision of Mantua. To the Fairfax County medical examiner,
Paul Jahoda was a suicide who had taken an overdose of sleeping pills following a fight with his father.

To the police the death appeared to be a mystery, probably an accident. To Joseph Jahoda, his only son was "a victim of the times."

Whatever the cause of bis death. Paul was a lonely introverted boy who was learning to play the guitar. Schoolmates recounted that he used to "try out" drugs that others brought to school to "see if he could get a high without getting sick . . ."

"He would take the pills they gave him, and if he didn't get sick, and got a high,
then they'd know it was okay. Paul said it was all right to do because it hadn't hurt him."

Another friend recalls: "He really liked the high he got from being drunk more than any other high. But when his father ended his drinking. Paul took up drugs because he could get them into the house without being caught.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Bill ()
Date: July 10, 2010 09:57PM

I'm sure I bummed a smoke off of Willy once in the bathroom.

I once put a glob of ink on Ricky Herring's desk and ruined his 100 sweater.

I once attended a court school with Frank Kelly and even went on a ride with him in his vehicle.

All this before the murders of course and I was very suprised this happened. I knew these kids were screwed up and I was too back then but it's hard to predict a persons nature.

RIP Crocker and thanks for the cig.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: sosocomplain ()
Date: July 11, 2010 07:56PM

As much asp eople complain we dont have this problem in Centreville.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: lisa ()
Date: December 01, 2010 08:04PM

Im not sure why I was thinking about his today? It has crossed my mind over over the years probably because I was just 15 when it happened. Stuff like that just didn't happen in that area and it was very tragic. I was trying to remember details of what had happened and what the convictions ended up being? I thought that it was Ricky Herring that was the shooter? On here it says that Khalid Karim's verdict was overturned? What was he sentenced to?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: kurt ()
Date: December 31, 2010 03:29PM

i knew all of them and frank and rick where trouble big time but i nevver thought they would go that far...trying to be gangsters ... they have had a long time to think about it 17 years is a long time.... ricky is never getin out............ gos to show being gangster can f&^k your life up forever

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: December 31, 2010 03:45PM

Sad some kid was killed over $150. No reason for it whatsoever.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Daymnnn ()
Date: December 31, 2010 04:26PM

Holy shit. Over $150? Wow.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Pbech ()
Date: December 31, 2010 05:54PM

well, considering it was 1993, $150 had more worth at that time (maybe it was more like $500)...either way it was senseless.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Whobe ()
Date: December 31, 2010 06:03PM

no....it was $150.00. WTF? How fucking young are you? It didnt happen in 1923.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Fast Car ()
Date: April 05, 2011 10:06PM

Have some respect for the dead. Willy was a good kid, he struggled w ADHD. He was no more messed up than the rest of us. He was spoken of as a hero because he was nice to his friends and loyal. He may pick on you in English but he had your back at McD's. What happened to him could have been any one of us.
--take a fast car & keep on drivin!!
We love you Willy!

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Radan ()
Date: May 18, 2011 01:18PM

I went to a couple days of the trials...I remember a few people with "loaded" gloves hitting the palms of their hands with them, glaring at all the young people they didn't know as we walked into the courtroom. Thug enforcer types.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: May 18, 2011 02:08PM

Pbech Wrote:
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> well, considering it was 1993, $150 had more worth
> at that time (maybe it was more like
> $500)...either way it was senseless.


Lol, you think inflation more than tripled in 18 years? I think you're confusing median home prices in NoVa with consumer price index.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: JBass ()
Date: May 18, 2011 02:15PM

Roughly 74% on all goods since 1993. So 150 then is like 261 now. Sure as hell not worth a life.

http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Consumer_Price_Index/HistoricalCPI.aspx?rsCPI_currentPage=0

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: May 18, 2011 02:24PM

JBass Wrote:
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> Roughly 74% on all goods since 1993. So 150 then
> is like 261 now. Sure as hell not worth a life.
>
> http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Consumer_Price_
> Index/HistoricalCPI.aspx?rsCPI_currentPage=0


This makes me wonder how much pot $150 was back then. I don't know if you can rely on ordinary inflation prices for marijuana.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/18/2011 02:25PM by Johnny Walker.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: May 18, 2011 02:25PM

Yeah you have to be pretty messed up to think it's worth killing people over $261 (not that I think it's OK to kill people over larger sums). I mean, what are you going to do to make a living - kill 2 people every work day?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Pedro Eats YOUR Tacos ()
Date: May 18, 2011 05:47PM

snowdenscold Wrote:
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> Yeah you have to be pretty messed up to think it's
> worth killing people over $261 (not that I think
> it's OK to kill people over larger sums). I mean,
> what are you going to do to make a living - kill 2
> people every work day?

Don't give the Messicans any ideas. That's alot of money to them.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: dean ()
Date: May 20, 2011 11:19PM

I remember Willy from LD class he was a good guy always talking about riding dirt bikes and jumping your car on the clifton roads you crazy sob, he hosted several partys and I also knew Ricky, Elmo and Franky it was a shocking to have heard of the news I knew those guy were going down the wrong path but never thought they would end up killing any one. God rest your sole Willy.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Stones ()
Date: May 22, 2011 10:56PM

I remember this real well. I went to a neighboring school and was in the same grade. Leon was actually a class mate. Definitely the type of guy you'd think might be involved in somethin like this. Rumor was that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was a key in testifying against the others.

Rumors were that the survivors were told to bite the curb. Anyone know if this is true?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Stones ()
Date: May 22, 2011 11:08PM

It was for 1 oz. That was about what you would expect to pay for crappy, over priced weed back then. I actually have no idea what it goes for now but that was probably an average price if you didn't have a good connection and if you were buying from strangers, you didn't.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: beasty ()
Date: May 23, 2011 05:06PM

This was a very sad episode. I went to a neigboring high school and was in the same grade. A number of my friends knew Willie from when he was a kid having gone to grade school with him. As sad as everyone was, I think people all agreed that Wille was trouble with a capital T. He was hanging out with some super shady dudes, buying drugs from the wrong kinds of folks (nobody should have anything to do with Frank back then) and was playing a stupid, dangerous game. I think all my friends were involved in shadiness back then (it was more the norm than it is now), but they knew where to draw the line, unlike these thugs and Justin Wolf.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: LKT ()
Date: May 31, 2011 12:02PM

Is Frank still a thug today? Anyone know???

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Your Master ()
Date: June 01, 2011 02:16AM

Who gives a shit..... but chances are they all have wide assholes now!!!

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: nofear ()
Date: July 20, 2011 10:34PM

I went to school with Willy from the 5th grade on. I knew him pretty well -- that whole thing shook us all. He was a wild kid with a big heart -- definitely misunderstood because he kind of had that "don't give a shit" attitude. He was far from a thug or trouble -- not even close. I still see his parents from time to time in Fairfax -- even to this day they don't look the same as before the murder....sad really. I don't think anyone made him out to be a hero -- he was simply something tragic that really did not occur in our area so it was a huge deal -- and the circumstances around it made it harder to swallow.

He didn't know Frank or Elmo or Ricky for that matter -- he was hanging out with some guys from summer school and one of them (not naming names) knew the killers well and went to buy the weed from them. Willy was just driving the car and this guy asked Willy to keep following them so they could get the weed. He had no clue who he was dealing with - but even so, would anyone have expected this?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Bee ()
Date: September 29, 2011 11:28AM

Willie was a cool dude...Take the fast car and keep on driving. Willie couldn't pick on anyone, he was a smooth talker and had an ego, what 15-16 year old doesn't....Stop talking shit about a dude you didn;t know and frankly has no bearing on anything you ave done or will do...Will was a a good kid with nice parents...FUCK Frank Kelly, Fuck Rick Herring...hope you get raped everyday, Fuck the Lead Karim...stupid jigga, Fuck Elmo....Loser,hope your death hurt and fuck the other that were involved....It was over $150 worht of weed....These were suburbian idiots..Ricky always wnted to be black, we'll I'm sure he's getting all the black he wants inside! Frank, skinny worthless nigger! You all will get yours before its said and done.....Guaranteed!

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Bee ()
Date: September 29, 2011 11:31AM

The guy who knew the killers and niggers was another nigger named JASON McCree!!!

Jason you are a little pussy faggot! Set-up some dudes for $150.00 and you got shot in the hand...I hope God strikes down and kills your family and fills you with hardship and disease....FUCK Jason McCree!!! YOU LYING FUCKING LOSER!!!

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Yucky23 ()
Date: September 29, 2011 04:43PM

This is why you don't do drugs you stupid faggots.

Or hang out with people who do.

Only a matter of time until all those shady people you're around do something fucked up like this.

But no, keep doing and promoting drugs you liberal fucks.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: September 29, 2011 04:47PM

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: stillnotenough ()
Date: September 29, 2011 08:22PM

justice still wasn't served. I wish they tried that with the Pegans or MS13, then they'd get out of jail to see their house burned down, their parents whereabouts unknown, and couldn't leave the confinements of their breezeway motel room.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Anonymous703 ()
Date: October 11, 2012 02:51PM

No he is not!!!!! He is well refined. Understandable that ppl not directly involved in this case were affected. But people need to learn to forgive even if you choose not to forget! They were all pretty young...time has moved on. Just thank the Lord the lessons were learned.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: JCurious ()
Date: October 12, 2012 05:21AM

I am like, really curious about this.. what are these guys up to now? Are they still in the area? Any pictures of them?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Remember it well ()
Date: October 13, 2012 09:31PM

I knew Leon pretty well and one of my best friends was on the same soccer team and really good friends with 2 of the survivors.

It seemed like Leon was in the wrong place at the wrong time and had some bad friends. I think I've seen that he's friended some of our classmates on facebook and seems to be trying to make a life for himself.

I remember this was the first time I heard about "curbing" then I saw it on American History X and I was like, holy shit!

It was over an ounce of weed. William's crew showed up, no weed, they killed him for the money. I remember that at the time an ounce wasn't so crazy (although back then, it was always mexican brick crap!). That was a standard deal (albeit expensive) and I couldn't believe someone got killed over that. It wasn't so crazy to deal a QP without major concerns so how on earth did this happen?

It was also Menace to Society and Boys in the Hood days. People were tring to be gangsters and it cost a young kid his life. Stupid.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: A weed heuristic... ()
Date: October 13, 2012 09:36PM

I remember before this incident, one of my best friends who's black and who also introduced/coached me to the weed scene (and his California/surfer type dealer who I then went to) always said "NEVER buy from a black guy"

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: RHS1995 ()
Date: October 13, 2012 10:26PM

I was just thinking about this today and here I find it on the first page of fxunderground.

I remember this really clearly. I had known Willy for a long time. We were good friends when we were younger but had gone separate ways. He used to jump his car, maybe a t-bird back on this hill on Chapel Road.

I think it was Frank Kelly who lived in the last house in Fairfax Club Estates. I remember seeing the cops at his house and hearing he had been arrested.

Quinn was never the same. He came back to school but the bullet to the head had slowed him down considerably. I think I remember hearing they had never removed the bullet.

Did the Post ever do a comprehensive article about this?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Lord Jagged ()
Date: May 02, 2013 07:32PM

Oh yeah, I definitely remember this. The apartment I was living in at the time was close enough that I heard the gunshots. Then I found out I knew one of the shooters. I was friends with Ricky from when he was 12 or 13 till he was about 16. I even took him out with my pellet pistol and taught him how shoot, really wish I had never done that now.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Ogien ()
Date: May 02, 2013 10:04PM

Went to Robinson but not when this all took place.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: 93Ram ()
Date: March 21, 2014 02:15PM

I remember this incident very clearly. Willy was a year younger than me and Frank and Ricky were in my graduating class. Elmo was one year older. I had spoken with Willy very recently before he got killed. In fairness, I remember him being a bit of an arrogant prick (even for a rich high school kid), but he was a good guy and I liked him well enough. Frank was a good friend of mine in middle school and was a nice suburban kid. Ricky Herring always seemed a little "slow", and was a wanna be wigger, which is the most pathetic type of wigger there is.

I remember this incident creating an undercurrent of racism among many of the people who knew Willy.It was an extrodinarlily violent time in our history. This time was hard on suburban black kids (I'm one so I can testify.) Being "hard" was an important concept to more ghetto black men and many privledged suburban kids tried to emulate them. I think this was what was ultimately behind the murder, more than the money. I remember Frank being a pretty cool laid back guy when we were younger, then suddenly he became "hard." Extremely sad and a waste of life beyond comprehension.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: hWGGL ()
Date: March 21, 2014 09:19PM

that's pretty pretty hostile shit. don't be talked into thinking it isn't

i remember a friend of a friend in fiarfax who had an italian uzi

said it was to protect himself (though as they all did in those days)

only in DC did you hear about killings over a scammer

get scammed? go somewhere else, that easy. get money back if you can but likely not worth it

not that i liked the crowd i stayed away from it

NOT NORMAL. something is wrong with all the story above.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: September 15, 2015 04:04AM

Big John Wrote:
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> So where are they now?
>
>
> The Robinson HS Buyers:
>
> Ryan Quinn - recovered from injuries
> Jason McCree - recovered from injuries
> Jacob Barnhart - still fleeing, uninjured?
> William W Crocker - still dead
>
> The Sellers:
>
> Elmer C. Bennefield - 20 years prison, 5
> suspended, out in 2010
> Frank D. Kelly ("Frog") - 20 years prison, 5
> suspended, out in 2010
> Rick Herring - Pleaded guilty to Murder 1
>
> The Karim Group - Lake Braddock
>
> Khalid Karim (shooter) - Guilty by Jury of Murder 1, overturned on appeal.
> Leon Peden - Sentenced to three years as a Juvenile, released at age 21.
>
> Big John - Never located



"Khalid Karim (shooter) - Guilty by Jury of Murder 1, overturned on appeal” Is this true? Did he get time? It sounds like Rick Herring was sorry for what he did (as indicated by his pleading “guilty”) If the above post is correct and Khalid Karim was the shooter and got no time and Rick got the most time, I have to ask “why?” or “how”? That doesn’t seem just; and who is Big John and what happened to him?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: NOVARAM ()
Date: September 17, 2015 12:16AM

Thinking about this again on the eve of our 20th High School Reunion from Robinson. We've talked about Willie and his influence on our class...a lot. He was the first of us to die and definitely the first of anybody we knew to be murdered in cold blood. A school year ended in the spring of Sophomore year only to find that a classmate had been murdered over the summer before Junior fall.

Willy was in my PE class that year. I didn't like him. He was a dick to the teacher (whose name is on the baseball field) and to his classmates. He was usually out of control (when not skipping) and acted aloof to those that came in contact with him. When he decided to participate in gym activities he would trash talk and start fights.

When he was killed we had a number of forced presentations to attend and a eulogy conducted at the school that was mandatory to all classmates. They played the Tracy Chapman song "Fast Car" which was his themer. He drove a Firebird that could neither chase nor outrun his destiny. Yes...he died over a small amount of weed, but we also heard stories that he had been purposefully lacing bags with oregano which lead to the distrust in his service. He was a kid that wagered high and lost big.

We lost Willie young, however, we also lost several others to a myriad of life altering ordeals (some before/some after graduation)...suicide, car accidents, cancer, etc. We must remember ALL of them in order to help parents, friends and classmates cope with these tragedies.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: burned ()
Date: September 17, 2015 07:09AM

NOVARAM Wrote:
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> also heard stories that he had been purposefully
> lacing bags with oregano which lead to the
> distrust in his service. He was a kid that wagered
> high and lost big.

That makes more sense than $150, selling burn bags to the wrong guys is a good way to get yourself killed.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: RedBlue ()
Date: August 11, 2016 06:00PM

Where are they now? Out of jail and my guess is trying to hide their past and going by different names, like Damon.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: WSH LAX Grain ()
Date: August 11, 2016 08:17PM

Did he rule the school? I mean before he died.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: GO DUKE ()
Date: September 08, 2016 02:47AM

Willie was the first of many members of the class of 1995 to die. I knew Ryan Quinn before & after the shooting. It was like two different people. Sad.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Angie ()
Date: December 14, 2016 01:18AM

Fuck that dead cracker. Ricky didn't want to be black. He just didn't fuck with any of you spoiled cowards. Elmore Frank Leon and Lead are all out of Prison with families kids and nice carriers. & your boy is still DEAD. #BURKELIFE #GETOUTTHEKITCJENIFYOUCANTSTANDTHEHEAT

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Fox News ()
Date: December 14, 2016 01:28AM

life Wrote:
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> Bennefield and Kelly are getting released in the
> Spring after completing their 20 yr. sentences,
> wonder what life will be like for them?
>
> "Elmer C. Bennefield and Frank D. Kelly were
> convicted of
> murder, abduction, and use of a firearm in the
> commission of a
> felony. On appeal, they contend that their
> retrial was barred by
> the double jeopardy clauses of the United States
> and the Virginia
> Constitutions. We disagree and affirm their
> convictions.
> BACKGROUND
> During the late hours of July 30, 1993, four
> high school
> friends, Ryan Quinn, Jason McCree, Jacob Barnhart,
> and William
> Crocker (the Crocker group), attempted to purchase
> marijuana from
> Kelly, Bennefield and Rick Herring (the Kelly
> group). The
> Crocker group gave the Kelly group one hundred
> fifty dollars, and
> they followed the Kelly group by car to a
> restaurant. The Kelly
> group travelled together in one car, and the
> Crocker group
> followed in Crocker's car. The Kelly group joined
> with another
> group (the Karim group) at the restaurant, and the
> Karim group,
> in a third car, followed the Kelly and Crocker
> groups to a motel.
> Someone in the Kelly group told the Crocker group
> that a man had
> taken the drug purchase money and fled without
> delivering the
> marijuana. On the pretext of finding the person
> who had taken
> the money, the Crocker group followed the cars
> carrying the Kelly
> and Karim groups to a deserted construction site.
> At the
> construction site, members of the Kelly and Karim
> groups pointed
> guns at the Crocker group members and ordered them
> to lie on the
> ground. The Kelly and Karim group members shot
> three members of
> the Crocker group, injuring Quinn and McCree and
> killing Crocker.
> Barnhart fled, uninjured."


If drugs weren't illegal things like this would never happened!

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Moadr ()
Date: December 14, 2016 01:29AM

That's some Burke shit to say. "Never buy from a black guy" I bet you buy black music,clothes and use black words. And secretly your girl likes black men. #stayinburke

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: phelpsmarc ()
Date: December 14, 2016 02:54PM

life Wrote:
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> Bennefield and Kelly are getting released in the
> Spring after completing their 20 yr. sentences,
> wonder what life will be like for them?
>
> "Elmer C. Bennefield and Frank D. Kelly were
> convicted of
> murder, abduction, and use of a firearm in the
> commission of a
> felony. On appeal, they contend that their
> retrial was barred by
> the double jeopardy clauses of the United States
> and the Virginia
> Constitutions. We disagree and affirm their
> convictions.
> BACKGROUND
> During the late hours of July 30, 1993, four
> high school
> friends, Ryan Quinn, Jason McCree, Jacob Barnhart,
> and William
> Crocker (the Crocker group), attempted to purchase
> marijuana from
> Kelly, Bennefield and Rick Herring (the Kelly
> group). The
> Crocker group gave the Kelly group one hundred
> fifty dollars, and
> they followed the Kelly group by car to a
> restaurant. The Kelly
> group travelled together in one car, and the
> Crocker group
> followed in Crocker's car. The Kelly group joined
> with another
> group (the Karim group) at the restaurant, and the
> Karim group,
> in a third car, followed the Kelly and Crocker
> groups to a motel.
> Someone in the Kelly group told the Crocker group
> that a man had
> taken the drug purchase money and fled without
> delivering the
> marijuana. On the pretext of finding the person
> who had taken
> the money, the Crocker group followed the cars
> carrying the Kelly
> and Karim groups to a deserted construction site.
> At the
> construction site, members of the Kelly and Karim
> groups pointed
> guns at the Crocker group members and ordered them
> to lie on the
> ground. The Kelly and Karim group members shot
> three members of
> the Crocker group, injuring Quinn and McCree and
> killing Crocker.
> Barnhart fled, uninjured."


Killed over $150.

That makes no sense.

They should have rotted in jail longer.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/14/2016 03:07PM by phelpsmarc.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Dads ()
Date: December 14, 2016 04:41PM

Fast Car Wrote:
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> Have some respect for the dead. Willy was a good
> kid, he struggled w ADHD. He was no more messed up
> than the rest of us. He was spoken of as a hero
> because he was nice to his friends and loyal. He
> may pick on you in English but he had your back at
> McD's. What happened to him could have been any
> one of us.
> --take a fast car & keep on drivin!!
> We love you Willy!
Based on the level of douche I'm detecting from you despite your attempts to hide it ill take your endorsement of the kid to be evidence of his status as a scum bag.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Redblue ()
Date: February 27, 2017 05:38PM

Damon Kelly interior designer. Married to Sharon lives in Woodbridge has new baby girl ... should be in jail for reeaalllll!

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: I remember that kid ()
Date: February 27, 2017 09:23PM

That Crocker kid was a real asshole. Used to steal my fries right out of the red and white basket while I was eating over at Arthur Treacher's in Fairfax.

Anybody remember Kamp Washington?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Codie ()
Date: February 27, 2017 09:39PM

I remember that kid Wrote:
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> That Crocker kid was a real asshole. Used to steal
> my fries right out of the red and white basket
> while I was eating over at Arthur Treacher's in
> Fairfax.
>
> Anybody remember Kamp Washington?


Yeah I pass through Kamp Washington on my way to Arthur Treacher's

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: Kamper ()
Date: February 27, 2017 09:41PM

And that was right across the street from the 3 chefs and also the other Arthur Treacher's and remember when 7 corners mall had that cool sign?

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: the one you were scare of ()
Date: July 07, 2017 02:53AM

Fuck "Silly Crocker" and all of you Robinson racist motherfuckers. He was doing wrong just like everyone else in the story. There's a lot more to the story you don't know! Burke was filled with privelaged racist kids back then. That's why all of you feel comfortable saying something on here where you can hide your name. Glad Frank and Elmo got out and are doing good. I'm sure BETTER than all of you on here.

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Re: Anyone remember William Crocker (Robinson HS, murdered)
Posted by: SteveBannon ()
Date: July 07, 2017 06:25AM

Another thug wigger lifestyle and how it ends. Very unlike Tupac and biggie.
Rumor was that the gun that killed Crocker was held to the side like ice cube does in his music videos.

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