May 26th 10am-May 28th at 6pm.

ViVa! Vienna! - a family and community oriented celebration of Memorial Day and the greater Vienna Community spirit.

Amusement rides, food, crafts, vendors and entertainment - fun for all ages!

Vendors include handcraft artisans, retail vendors, professionals, political parties and candidates, and community and non-profit organizations.

50,000 guests and over 300 vendors

100% of proceeds go to charitable, community and humanitarian organizations.

http://vivavienna.org/default.aspx

Will any of the fine mattress stores offer special discounts?
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From humble beginnings, Viva! Vienna! has become a huge 3-day carnival-of-food-and-fun sort of thing. It's a great way for anyone to spend a day as long as the weather is good.

General parking will be easiest at the Vienna Metro station or at James Madison High School. Shuttle buses run to and from those sites every 20 minutes all day long.

Handicapped parking is available downtown along Mill Street (next to the caboose) while many downtown churches, banks, and businesses will offer free parking for at least most of all three days. For more on parking, see the link, otherwise go and have a great time...

http://vivavienna.org/parking.aspx

^^^^^^Someone can’t afford to go to the beach.

Our kids are long gone now, but we still get over to Viva Vienna for the food, the crafts, and the sights and sounds of old-fashioned, amusement park-type summer fun. Vienna in general just seems to do a better job with these sorts of things than other places.

posters with low funds Wrote:
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> ^^^^^^Someone can’t afford to go to the beach.

Two days of 8-hour traffic jams for one day on the beach? No thanks!

Anyone know who is playing the Savvy Rest Main Stage this year?

Mattress? Fat Mattress? Vertical Mattress?

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> > ^^^^^^Someone can’t afford to go to the
> beach.
>
> Two days of 8-hour traffic jams for one day on the
> beach? No thanks!


Not only can you not afford it, you seem to stupid to figure out how to avoid traffic or which beaches have far less congestion heading to them.

I'm sure you'll have a fun time commuting to Viva Vienna and then schlepping your ass on a bus.

Everyone does "the beach thing" at some point in their lives. Those points tend mostly to fall below the age of 25. After that, you start to develop a more sophisticated view of things.

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> Everyone does "the beach thing" at some point in
> their lives. Those points tend mostly to fall
> below the age of 25. After that, you start to
> develop a more sophisticated view of things.


Yes. Nothing says sophistication like watching music on the Savvy Rest stage and eating overpriced, cardiac arrest inducing deep-fried so-so food at a ho/hum overcrowded event.

Have fun. I'll take my glass of Bordeaux on a quiet beach.

Lol. You’ll top out at some Total Wine swill on your quiet Falls Church driveway.

In the real world... Wrote:
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> Lol. You’ll top out at some Total Wine swill on
> your quiet Falls Church driveway.


Total Wine actually sells some very fine wines. Undoubtedly, more expensive than you can afford. Then again, a chilled bottle of Thunderbird is too expensive for you. I don't have a Falls Church driveway or anything else in Falls Church for that matter.

I don't think you could have failed any bigger if you tried.

Enjoy your corn dog on the blacktop. The most you can wash that down with is a cup of sugar water that they told you was lemonade.

posters with low funds Wrote:
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> Total Wine actually sells some very fine wines.

Wouldn't know. We dine out so often these days, I no longer purchase wine for home consumption. Our better area restaurants keep wonderful stocks on hand to make selections from.

> I don't have a Falls Church driveway or anything else
> in Falls Church for that matter.

The Little City is just a marker for dimbulb downscale losers anyway. You do seem to fit the profile though.

> Enjoy your corn dog on the blacktop. The most you
> can wash that down with is a cup of sugar water
> that they told you was lemonade.

A shame that you had such a sheltered upbringing that you can't appreciate amusement park cuisine. I wonder how many others you've missed out on as well.

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> Beach Traffic Jams Wrote:
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> > posters with low funds Wrote:
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> > > ^^^^^^Someone can’t afford to go to the
> > beach.
> >
> > Two days of 8-hour traffic jams for one day on
> the
> > beach? No thanks!
>
>
> Not only can you not afford it, you seem to stupid
> to figure out how to avoid traffic or which
> beaches have far less congestion heading to them.
>
>
> I'm sure you'll have a fun time commuting to Viva
> Vienna and then schlepping your ass on a bus.

Enjoy sitting in traffic is all I have to say. Sure you can avoid the traffic if you go 3 days early pay extra or drive at 3am in morning. No thanks. Plenty to do here in the DC area on Memorial Day weekend.

It's supposed to rain at all the beaches anyway.

Should be mostly sunny and in the mid 80's on Saturday. Ideal funnel-cake eating weather! Sunday and Monday should see 70-80% chance of showers with temps around 80º. Early birds will get the best worms.

Empty nesters Wrote:
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> Our kids are long gone now, but we still get over
> to Viva Vienna for the food, the crafts, and the
> sights and sounds of old-fashioned, amusement
> park-type summer fun. Vienna in general just
> seems to do a better job with these sorts of
> things than other places.

Agreed. Viva! Vienna!, the Halloween Parade, the 4th of July, and even Oktoberfest are all things where Vienna seems to set the standard. Makes it fun for families in the area. Tip of the hat to the town for all that.

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> > > posters with low funds Wrote:
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> >
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > ^^^^^^Someone can’t afford to go to the
> > > beach.
> > >
> > > Two days of 8-hour traffic jams for one day
> on
> > the
> > > beach? No thanks!
> >
> >
> > Not only can you not afford it, you seem to
> stupid
> > to figure out how to avoid traffic or which
> > beaches have far less congestion heading to
> them.
> >
> >
> > I'm sure you'll have a fun time commuting to
> Viva
> > Vienna and then schlepping your ass on a bus.
>
> Enjoy sitting in traffic is all I have to say.
> Sure you can avoid the traffic if you go 3 days
> early pay extra or drive at 3am in morning. No
> thanks. Plenty to do here in the DC area on
> Memorial Day weekend.
>
> It's supposed to rain at all the beaches anyway.


When you own the place, you don't pay extra.

Carnival Eats Wrote:
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> posters with low funds Wrote:
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> > Total Wine actually sells some very fine wines.
>
>
> Wouldn't know. We dine out so often these days, I
> no longer purchase wine for home consumption. Our
> better area restaurants keep wonderful stocks on
> hand to make selections from.


That's a mighty weak retort. The home cellar is not only for home consumption by myself and spouse, but also for frequent entertaining of friends, colleagues, and family. Additionally, while there are decent vintages to be found at many restaurants, I've found it necessary to bring some bottles from home and pay the corkage fee from time to time. That's probably a bit above the head of someone like you.

> > I don't have a Falls Church driveway or anything
> else
> > in Falls Church for that matter.
>
> The Little City is just a marker for dimbulb
> downscale losers anyway. You do seem to fit the
> profile though.

Seems to be yet another thing you can't afford. That list is beginning to add up. Give the numerous $1M plus listings I've seen there in recent months, it's not surprising.

> > Enjoy your corn dog on the blacktop. The most
> you
> > can wash that down with is a cup of sugar water
> > that they told you was lemonade.
>
> A shame that you had such a sheltered upbringing
> that you can't appreciate amusement park cuisine.
> I wonder how many others you've missed out on as
> well.

Very little. I want for little to nothing. That being said, the dining options available at Viva Vienna is more commonly called carnival or fair food rather than amusement park cuisine. Given how uninformed you seem to be about most things, it's no surprise you flubbed this one too.

Rich or poor, Falls Church or the beach, you still get rained on. Best bet is still Viva! Vienna! on Saturday.

The resident fathead is hard to miss. Had any good coconut risotto lately?

Viva Mattress Wrote:
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> Will any of the fine mattress stores offer special discounts?

Gotta love these disconnected dummies who let their Mattress Store Digest subscriptions expire.

Viva Vienna! Celebra la diversidad! Mañana la reconquista! Viva Viva!!!

¡Eliminaremos a los imbéciles blancos y tomaremos sus colchones!

We'll be there mang!

All are welcome. Admission is free.

Why aren't there mattress races?
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That would be more apt in a place like Falls Church City. They have double the mattress store density that Vienna has.

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> That would be more apt in a place like Falls
> Church City. They have double the mattress store
> density that Vienna has.


I think there might be one, maybe two mattress stores in the city of Falls Church. At least three in the town of Vienna I can think of.

Vienna will always be known as the mattress capital of NoVA.

Because they lost one due to market saturation doesn't change the heritage of the tiny city of latex foam as it's now known.

There are three mattress stores in each jurisdiction, but Vienna is twice as large as Falls Church. You do the math.

Still the One Wrote:
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> Vienna will always be known as the mattress
> capital of NoVA.
>
> Because they lost one due to market saturation
> doesn't change the heritage of the tiny city of
> latex foam as it's now known.

They lost two, and two of the three remaining deal in specialty bedroom lines.

Between market saturation and traffic making it impossible to get there for 6 hours out of the day, Vienna is a tough mattress market.

The town does much better these days in the areas of festivals and fine dining. As with plow factories and tomato canneries, mattress stores are but dim memories of a quaint but vanished past.

Vienna has a proud tradition of latex foam and traffic.

Celebrate the foundations.

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> There are three mattress stores in each
> jurisdiction, but Vienna is twice as large as
> Falls Church. You do the math.


Not sure that is true. I think you need to get out more.

Pretty sure Vienna is still twice as big as Falls Church City.

And Vienna still has Viva! Vienna! which on Saturday at least should be a great place to hang out, shop, eat, and soak up the sort of local carnival atmosphere that you knew back when you were a kid.

What attractions will focus on the Muslim Community?

That's racist.

Some things never change Wrote:
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> Pretty sure Vienna is still twice as big as Falls
> Church City.


Pretty sure you got the math wrong on mattress stores.

How so?

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> How so?


Probably because you can't count.

The relevant information in that post came to a total of none.

How am I doing? Wrote:
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> The relevant information in that post came to a
> total of none.


You're failing again. It is probably related to your inability to count properly.

Hint: you need to recount the number of mattress stores in each locality because your numbers are off.

But you can’t show where or how?

How pathetically weak Wrote:
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> But you can’t show where or how?


It's not my job to prop up your fake posts. Support your own contentions. Are you incapable of forming your own thoughts and arguments?

Hint: list the names and addresses of the stores, moron.

I love it when 2 fags have a sword fight.

What were your corrections again, you feeble dumbfuck?

Useless Wrote:
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> What were your corrections again, you feeble
> dumbfuck?


My correction is that you counted wrong. List the store names and addresses if you think you've got a point to make. If you can't, then shut the fuck up.

LOL! Your correction is Fake News, and no one knew that any sooner than you. .

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> LOL! Your correction is Fake News, and no one
> knew that any sooner than you. .


Names and addresses of the stores.

If you don't like three and three, one thing you could do is shove a fucking broomstick up your ass. There are other things as well of course, but you wouldn't enjoy those as much.

Is this argument about mattress stores?

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> If you don't like three and three, one thing you
> could do is shove a fucking broomstick up your
> ass. There are other things as well of course,
> but you wouldn't enjoy those as much.


I didn't see the names and addresses of the mattress stores in your post. For someone trying to come off as a smart guy, you seem incapable of completing that very simple task.

Don't you understand -- it's not my problem.

Robert Zimmerman Wrote:
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> Don't you understand -- it's not my problem.


Beyond mattress stores, Vienna is nothing more than a desolation row.

And all those shopping and dining options, and those festivals, and you know, actual yards that you can throw or kick a ball around in without breaking your neighbor’s windows. Vienna pretty much rocks.

Weak sauce... Wrote:
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> And all those shopping and dining options, and
> those festivals, and you know, actual yards that
> you can throw or kick a ball around in without
> breaking your neighbor’s windows. Vienna pretty
> much rocks.


Traffic.

Oh, we’ve got occasional road work and such to get around, but traffic in Vienna is actually something that just those too dumb to have a plan need to deal with.

Weak sauce... Wrote:
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> And all those shopping and dining options, and
> those festivals, and you know, actual yards that
> you can throw or kick a ball around in without
> breaking your neighbor’s windows. Vienna pretty
> much rocks.


Shopping options=mattress stores.

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> Weak sauce... Wrote:
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> > And all those shopping and dining options, and
> > those festivals, and you know, actual yards
> that
> > you can throw or kick a ball around in without
> > breaking your neighbor’s windows. Vienna
> pretty
> > much rocks.
>
>
> Traffic.


Plenty of side streets if you need to circumnavigate Maple.

no issue if you're in the know Wrote:
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> > > And all those shopping and dining options,
> and
> > > those festivals, and you know, actual yards
> > that
> > > you can throw or kick a ball around in
> without
> > > breaking your neighbor’s windows. Vienna
> > pretty
> > > much rocks.
> >
> >
> > Traffic.
>
>
> Plenty of side streets if you need to
> circumnavigate Maple.


Not when everyone else knows the same streets.

Traffic calming bumps on ur head Wrote:
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> > > Weak sauce... Wrote:
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > And all those shopping and dining options,
> > and
> > > > those festivals, and you know, actual yards
> > > that
> > > > you can throw or kick a ball around in
> > without
> > > > breaking your neighbor’s windows. Vienna
> > > pretty
> > > > much rocks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Traffic.
> >
> >
> > Plenty of side streets if you need to
> > circumnavigate Maple.
>
>
> Not when everyone else knows the same streets.


Many don't. I've never had a major problem getting through on the side streets.

smooth sailing Wrote:
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> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > And all those shopping and dining
> options,
> > > and
> > > > > those festivals, and you know, actual
> yards
> > > > that
> > > > > you can throw or kick a ball around in
> > > without
> > > > > breaking your neighbor’s windows.
> Vienna
> > > > pretty
> > > > > much rocks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Traffic.
> > >
> > >
> > > Plenty of side streets if you need to
> > > circumnavigate Maple.
> >
> >
> > Not when everyone else knows the same streets.
>
>
> Many don't. I've never had a major problem getting
> through on the side streets.


Yeah, those bumps are just there for decoration. lol

It's easy enough for residents to get in, out, and around, but the town was designed and has been maintained so as to deter and frustrate efforts by out-of-towners to commute through Vienna's residential neighborhoods. Bypasses (such as Nutley Street, Lee Highway, and Gallows Road) are there for you to use. It's either those or sticking with the best of 123.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> It's easy enough for residents to get in, out, and
> around, but the town was designed and has been
> maintained so as to deter and frustrate efforts by
> out-of-towners to commute through Vienna's
> residential neighborhoods. Bypasses (such as
> Nutley Street, Lee Highway, and Gallows Road) are
> there for you to use. It's either those or
> sticking with the best of 123.


There a more options than those you listed, but it's good you're happy with the ones you've found.

The town was designed for about 1/10th of the traffic that goes through it. lol

Those living there have to deal with more than anyone else.

No, there actually aren't, you pathetic dimbulb asshole.

Clusterfuck Drive Wrote:
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> The town was designed for about 1/10th of the
> traffic that goes through it. lol

Exactly. The one-tenth that lives here. The rest of you worthless pikers can go suck an egg, an egg called 123.

> Those living there have to deal with more than anyone else.

How wrong you are!

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> No, there actually aren't, you pathetic dimbulb
> asshole.


Sure there are. Maybe you'll figure out how to discover them one day.

No there aren't. It's just gas seeping up from your ass and into your brain.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> No there aren't. It's just gas seeping up from
> your ass and into your brain.


It's OK, if you're too incompetent to figure them out, it just means more smooth sailing for me.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Clusterfuck Drive Wrote:
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> > The town was designed for about 1/10th of the
> > traffic that goes through it. lol
>
> Exactly. The one-tenth that lives here. The rest
> of you worthless pikers can go suck an egg, an egg
> called 123.
>
> > Those living there have to deal with more than
> anyone else.
>
> How wrong you are!


Nope. They have to go through it more than anyone.

Bump.

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It just means that you're a known and worthless retard.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> It just means that you're a known and worthless
> retard.


Bump.

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Stop.

Wait.

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Creeeeeeeppppppppppp.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> It just means that you're a known and worthless
> retard.


Cheer up, sport. Maybe mommy will let you sit in the front seat one day soon.

Yup. Worthless retard confirmed! Hours of laughs and endless fun are certain to ensue, even though it's "not nice" to laugh at crippled people.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Yup. Worthless retard confirmed! Hours of laughs
> and endless fun are certain to ensue, even though
> it's "not nice" to laugh at crippled people.


Crippled is the best way to describe your navigation skills.

No, asswipe. I know the area like the back of my hand. I also know that you're a hollow, ignorant dumbfuck. But I'll be glad to pick you to pieces here if you'd like.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> No, asswipe. I know the area like the back of my
> hand. I also know that you're a hollow, ignorant
> dumbfuck. But I'll be glad to pick you to pieces
> here if you'd like.


Based on your lack of knowledge of alternative routes through Vienna, I don't know if you'd be successful at picking your booger filled nose.

Oh, I'd be even more than successful in trashing your sorry ass. You'd be out of here with w red butt and your tail between your legs in short order. Just like always. As I said, you're a nobody who's got nothing.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Oh, I'd be even more than successful in trashing
> your sorry ass. You'd be out of here with w red
> butt and your tail between your legs in short
> order. Just like always. As I said, you're a
> nobody who's got nothing.


Until you figure out how to get around traffic in Vienna, you'll continue to be a hapless loser. Hell, even the boobs in Vienna "leadership" know there is a problem with cut-through traffic. They've been trying to calm it for a decade. They came up with speed humps and stop signs. Neither of those deter me or like minded drivers from using their residential neighborhood streets as alternatives to Maple. There are numerous minor arterial streets and collector streets that can be used nearly every day to bypass Maple. I suggest you learn to live with it.

Lol! These exist only in the cobwebbed caverns of your ever-stuttering brain.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Lol! These exist only in the cobwebbed caverns of
> your ever-stuttering brain.


No. They exist in all of the analysis done by the town council. Hell the town council even went out and paid ATCS to study the issue. So, it's your contention that the Vienna Town Council wasted taxpayer dollars to pay for a traffic calming study on residential streets that don't experience cut-through traffic? That study produced a 60+ page report. So, either you Vienna dopes don't recognize that your residential streets are frequently used as cut-through streets, or you elected a bunch of dimwits that wasted your tax dollars. Pick one, moron.

ATCS offered Vienna very few solutions. The best ATCS could offer for most locations is increased fines for speeding. Given that the speed limit on Maple is only 30 MPH, whooptie-fucking-doo. It does nothing to stop me and many others from taking the residential streets to bypass Maple. The sooner you learn to live with it, the better your mental state will be.

The town was originally laid out to keep you fucktards out, and steps have been taken periodically to keep you out ever since. You either sit on 123 or you use the convenient bypass routes that have been provided for you. Those are your two choices.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> The town was originally laid out to keep you
> fucktards out, and steps have been taken
> periodically to keep you out ever since. You
> either sit on 123 or you use the convenient bypass
> routes that have been provided for you. Those are
> your two choices.


Yeah, back in the 1800s they were planning for clusterfuck traffic. lol

Apparently they did a shit job because it's a now a clusterfuck.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> The town was originally laid out to keep you
> fucktards out, and steps have been taken
> periodically to keep you out ever since. You
> either sit on 123 or you use the convenient bypass
> routes that have been provided for you. Those are
> your two choices.


Damn, you're one dumb pile of shit.

https://www.viennava.gov/DocumentCenter/Home/View/709

Some good nuggets for you to choke on.

"Yet Vienna’s desirable location, ease of access to key transportation corridors, and active business environment also result in traffic, particularly from drivers who travel through the community. In particular, this pass-through traffic was viewed as negatively impacting residential neighborhoods as commuters speed along residential streets to bypass more congested roadways."

"It should be noted at the outset, then, that the report did not focus on congestion concerns; these issues were peripherally examined to the extent that they caused cut-through traffic and negatively impacted local neighborhoods."

"Cut-through traffic on Park Street SE and Kingsley Road SE/SW is high (30%)."


You lose again, asshole. The town and the professionals agree with me. Suck it hard, bitch.

.....what about Scallops?

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> You lose again, asshole. The town and the
> professionals agree with me. Suck it hard, bitch.

Nobody agrees with a hopeless ignorant asshole like you. Least of all the Town of Vienna. Getting into and out of town is easy for residents. Every "traffic-calming" measure over the past 50 years has been directed at abusive out-of-town assfucks such as yourself. You must be delayed, deterred, and diverted away from the problem-causing mischief that you would like to engage in. This campaign has been eminently successful -- leaving assholes the option to slog along 123 or avail their sorry asses of the bypass routex long ago provided.

....we want to know your opinion of Scallops.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> human GPS Wrote:
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> > You lose again, asshole. The town and the
> > professionals agree with me. Suck it hard,
> bitch.
>
> Nobody agrees with a hopeless ignorant asshole
> like you. Least of all the Town of Vienna.
> Getting into and out of town is easy for
> residents. Every "traffic-calming" measure over
> the past 50 years has been directed at abusive
> out-of-town assfucks such as yourself. You must
> be delayed, deterred, and diverted away from the
> problem-causing mischief that you would like to
> engage in. This campaign has been eminently
> successful -- leaving assholes the option to slog
> along 123 or avail their sorry asses of the bypass
> routex long ago provided.

Wrong, fuckstick. The study affirms every point I've made and flushes ypur claims down the toilet with the force of a Toto Ultramax.

You've got nothing to back up your claims. I've got a well regarded traffic consulting company with actual numbers.

Of course. You'll continue to babble along incoherently, and I'll just throw quotes from the traffic calming study right in your pansy ass face.

Hey you two lovers... Wrote:
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> .....what about Scallops?

...or water-taxis, or the Water Wars, or whether there is flowing water on the surface of Mars, or whether water plays any role in the development of sinkholes.

Same old Falls Church asshole. Same old load of utter bullshit. I wonder if he still thinks that you can't get from Dunn Loring to Anita's by using Electric Avenue, or that he can somehow get from southbound Gallows Road to Park Street by cutting through Vienna side-streets. LOL! Ghosts of Xmas past!

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Hey you two lovers... Wrote:
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> > .....what about Scallops?
>
> ...or water-taxis, or the Water Wars, or whether
> there is flowing water on the surface of Mars, or
> whether water plays any role in the development of
> sinkholes.
>
> Same old Falls Church asshole. Same old load of
> utter bullshit. I wonder if he still thinks that
> you can't get from Dunn Loring to Anita's by using
> Electric Avenue, or that he can somehow get from
> southbound Gallows Road to Park Street by cutting
> through Vienna side-streets. LOL! Ghosts of Xmas
> past!

Damn dude, you can’t keep track of all the posters who have shredded your ass over the years. That’s some serious butthurt you’re holding on to. Something tells me you’re headed down that path again.

I'm just much more intelligent than you are and can thus recognize the stench of your asshole posting a mile away. Think you're clever? Not on your life! Or what's left of it since ASSHOLE SPOTTER got done with you. LOL! Face it dumbfuck -- you've for years been a notorious loser and laughing stock on these boards, and your waste of time town along with you.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> I'm just much more intelligent than you are and
> can thus recognize the stench of your asshole
> posting a mile away. Think you're clever? Not on
> your life! Or what's left of it since ASSHOLE
> SPOTTER got done with you. LOL! Face it dumbfuck
> -- you've for years been a notorious loser and
> laughing stock on these boards, and your waste of
> time town along with you.


That's particularly funny since there are multiple people here fucking with your old dumb ass. lol

Go outside and sit in your carport and get some fresh air old dude. It's a nice day and you don't have much time left. Don't waste it.

Pictures of someone else golfing Wrote:
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> That's particularly funny since there are multiple
> people here fucking with your old dumb ass. lol

No, there aren't. It's just you, and as always you are just getting the living shit kicked out of you.

> Go outside and sit in your carport and get some
> fresh air old dude. It's a nice day and you don't
> have much time left. Don't waste it.

Changing kitty litter this afternoon, stooge. It's an indoor job. Just did have the the carport repainted though. So much nicer than your tiny little mold-infested garage that you don't even put your sorry ass car in.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Pictures of someone else golfing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That's particularly funny since there are
> multiple
> > people here fucking with your old dumb ass. lol
>
> No, there aren't. It's just you, and as always
> you are just getting the living shit kicked out of
> you.
>
> > Go outside and sit in your carport and get some
> > fresh air old dude. It's a nice day and you
> don't
> > have much time left. Don't waste it.
>
> Changing kitty litter this afternoon, stooge.
> It's an indoor job. Just did have the the carport
> repainted though. So much nicer than your tiny
> little mold-infested garage that you don't even
> put your sorry ass car in.


^ Old dude's easily confused.

Oxygen tank won't reach out to the carport? They have regen units that you can take with you now. Might look into that.

What? Did you not understand the kitty-litter-is-an-indoor-job thing, or did you simply forget about that already? Pretty stupid either way.

We make those stair lift things too if that would help.


Starting to back up already btw.
Attachments:

How would a "stair lift thing" help with kitty-littler changing? I do believe you've gone right round the bend.

Hoveround® Wrote:
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> We make those stair lift things too if that would
> help.
>
>
> Starting to back up already btw.


Good thing there's plenty of cut-through streets. Tapawingo, Park and Cedar look like a nice green work around.

Of course, I don't need a color coded map to tell me what is a sure thing on a nearly daily basis.

human GPS Wrote:
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> Hoveround® Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We make those stair lift things too if that
> would
> > help.
> >
> >
> > Starting to back up already btw.
>
>
> Good thing there's plenty of cut-through streets.
> Tapawingo, Park and Cedar look like a nice green
> work around.
>
> Of course, I don't need a color coded map to tell
> me what is a sure thing on a nearly daily basis.



Fortunately you're just cutting through and don't have to deal with the worst of it like the locals do.

Will any part of maple ave(within ToV limits) be shut down? I don't mind using a cut through street but I would like to know ahead of time so that I'm not among the hundreds of other people that are forced to make a spur of the moment detour when the road is suddenly blocked off by two cop cars and a barricade.

human GPS Wrote:
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> Good thing there's plenty of cut-through streets.
> Tapawingo, Park and Cedar look like a nice green
> work around.

As was pointed out the last time you made a fool of yourself on this topic (and the time before that as well), looks on a computer screen can be deceiving. Anyone aware of the actual nature of Tapawingo Road, Park Street, and Cedar Lane in the AM-rush would have understood the sorts of problems they present. First of all, no part of Cedar Lane is in the Town of Vienna. It is a bypass route, not a cut-through street. Your other options meanwhile will not take you anywhere you could not have reached more quickly and easily simply by having stuck with the designated bypass routes. Worse yet, these alternate streets are beset by various types of "calming" features such as schools, 4-way stops, speed bumps, and now even round-abouts, As the result, these options are not short-cuts at all. They are in fact LONG-cuts that no rational driver would choose over a more efficient alternative.

Will there be any rando creeper vendor reps there? I was just thinking I need to put aluminum siding all over my brick home as well as get a full set of gutter helmets...

You weren't actually thinking of anything beyond the burn-burn-burn of all that butthurt you've absorbed here.

Meanwhile, fifty thousand or so normal people will be hoping to have a great time at Viva! Vienna! this year. Unfortunately, it looks like showers and thunderstorms will be moving into the area around mid-afternoon on Saturday and hanging around the rest of the holiday weekend. Still won't be as depressing as being in Falls Church, so grab an umbrella and come on over!

Home.Pwner Wrote:
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> Will there be any rando creeper vendor reps there?
> I was just thinking I need to put aluminum siding
> all over my brick home as well as get a full set
> of gutter helmets...

Not sure but probably some mattress vendors.

Will they have Scallops on a stick?

mattress vendors Wrote:
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> Not sure but probably some mattress vendors.

Twice as likely to encounter one of those in Falls Church and the downside gets even worse from there.

Fresh Seafood Wrote:
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> Will they have Scallops on a stick?

Well, as one oought to know, fresh scallops are available in this market 365 days a year, so it’s entirely possible. So good when hot out of the deep-fryer!

Any Water Taxi rides?

Water Sporter Wrote:
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> Any Water Taxi rides?

Only “downtown.” Wherever that is.

Rockporter Wrote:
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> Well, as one oought to know, fresh scallops are
> available in this market 365 days a year, so
> it’s entirely possible. So good when hot out of
> the deep-fryer!

Just great with coconut risotto too!

Will a Sommelier be available for my high end beverage needs?

Go over to MacArthur Liquors and take pictures.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> First of all, no part of
> Cedar Lane is in the Town of Vienna.

Sure it is. I've lived in Vienna for over a decade. The town boundary runs right down the middle of Cedar from Park to where it crosses 66.

Fine Whine Wrote:
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> Will a Sommelier be available for my high end
> beverage needs?


Will cheese be cut, and offered to the public?

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> human GPS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Good thing there's plenty of cut-through
> streets.
> > Tapawingo, Park and Cedar look like a nice
> green
> > work around.
>
> As was pointed out the last time you made a fool
> of yourself on this topic (and the time before
> that as well), looks on a computer screen can be
> deceiving. Anyone aware of the actual nature of
> Tapawingo Road, Park Street, and Cedar Lane in the
> AM-rush would have understood the sorts of
> problems they present. First of all, no part of
> Cedar Lane is in the Town of Vienna. It is a
> bypass route, not a cut-through street. Your
> other options meanwhile will not take you anywhere
> you could not have reached more quickly and easily
> simply by having stuck with the designated bypass
> routes. Worse yet, these alternate streets are
> beset by various types of "calming" features such
> as schools, 4-way stops, speed bumps, and now even
> round-abouts, As the result, these options are
> not short-cuts at all. They are in fact LONG-cuts
> that no rational driver would choose over a more
> efficient alternative.


As the above poster pointed out, A chunk of Cedar is in fact located in the Town of Vienna. Just another thing you are wrong about. That's a rather long list.

Cedar is merely mentioned as a way of using the aforementioned streets to evade the stifling traffic on Maple. It's a shame you can't figure these things out.

Cedar Lane is the Town boundary, asshole. Like Nutley, Lee Highway, and Gallows Road, it is part of the bypass routes that keep morons from trying to play the cut-through game. You just get your ass kicked on the topic over and over and over again. Only the staggeringly dumb would not have learned their lesson by now.

All new Lincoln Navigator. Wrote:
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> Cedar Lane is the Town boundary, asshole. Like
> Nutley, Lee Highway, and Gallows Road, it is part
> of the bypass routes that keep morons from trying
> to play the cut-through game. You just get your
> ass kicked on the topic over and over and over
> again. Only the staggeringly dumb would not have
> learned their lesson by now.


So, you admit you are wrong. A good chunk of Cedar is, in fact as others have pointed out, within the Town of Vienna boundary. And today, just like any other day, I can take a number of roads to reach Cedar that run through the town of Vienna. Happy commuting!

No, assfuck. You can use Cedar Lane to go AROUND Vienna. It cannot he used to go THROUGH Vienna. Just as you couldn’t when you made the same asshole claim two years ago.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> No, assfuck. You can use Cedar Lane to go AROUND
> Vienna. It cannot he used to go THROUGH Vienna.
> Just as you couldn’t when you made the same
> asshole claim two years ago.


Part of Cedar runs through Vienna. I can use the aforementioned streets and others to reach it. That very simple fact remains elusive to the very dumb which includes you.

Cedar Lane does not appear in the street inventory of the Town of Vienna. This is because no part of it is in the town, and if your earlier sock-puppet friend had been correct, it would have been the part that lies outside the town that you would have foolishly tried to use as a morning cut-through in any case. Google Maps has failed you once again. Happens so often to utterly incompetent people.

Maybe suggest Locust Street as a great AM cut-through option again, loser. LOL!

Yeah, no cut through problem.......

Per direction from staff on March 8, 2007, and after additional confirmation in September 2007, ATCS targeted the southeast and southwest quadrants to assess cut-through traffic traveling through Vienna residential streets from I-66 and points south/southeast to Tysons Corner and other destinations north/northwest.

Due to the size and complexity of the travel patterns in study area defined above, ATCS conducted a license plate survey at six locations (instead of the limit of three listed in the scope of work) to determine the exact percentages of traffic cutting through the Vienna residential communities in the southeast and southwest quadrants. Technicians were deployed to record the license plates at strategic locations where the Town staff and TSC expressed concerns. This information complements the traffic volume data collected in Task 2.
An origin–destination study process was employed to achieve two objectives: (1) identify trips traveling through, to, and from the study area; and (2) protect the privacy of the drivers in the vehicles traced by ATCS. The best (peak) time of day to collect data in the study area was determined after examining the traffic counts collected and processed in these quadrants. This analysis indicated that the survey should be conducted from 7 A.M. – 9 A.M. during the morning and from 4.30 P.M.–6.30 P.M. during the evening.

In the morning, vehicles cutting through the neighborhood to reach Tysons Corner from Nutley Street (Southwest), and Cedar Lane (Southeast) were captured. During the evening, vehicles going onto Nutley Street (Southwest) from Cedar Lane (Southeast) and Maple Avenue (Southeast) were recorded. The license plate number and time of day a vehicle passed the recording points were collected by ATCS. The results of each data collection point were compared to determine the travel patterns of the vehicles.

A maximum cut-through of 29% was observed from Cedar Lane, S to Nutley Street via Park Street and Kingsley Road.

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To the too dense to understand the above, almost 30% of the traffic via Park and Kingsley is cut-through. Apparently, I am not alone.

You are in fact alone in your stupidity. Cedar Lane for instance is not in Vienna and therefore cannot serve as a cut-through alternative. The study you now in desperation seek to shift attention to is from 2007. There are eleven more years worth of Town actions to counter the trickle of those dumb enough to believe that they can ‘save time’ by abandoning 123 and the long-established bypass routes. You might want to face the fact here that you are just as full of shit on this topic as you have been on so very many other topics over the years.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> You are in fact alone in your stupidity. Cedar
> Lane for instance is not in Vienna and therefore
> cannot serve as a cut-through alternative. The
> study you now in desperation seek to shift
> attention to is from 2007. There are eleven more
> years worth of Town actions to counter the trickle
> of those dumb enough to believe that they can
> ‘save time’ by abandoning 123 and the
> long-established bypass routes. You might want to
> face the fact here that you are just as full of
> shit on this topic as you have been on so very
> many other topics over the years.

3 number Cedar Lane addresses are in the Town of Vienna. Those exist along the stretch between Park and the 66 overpass. If anything, the situation has gotten worse in the ensuing 11 years. It's fine, you sit and wait on 66, I'll stick to my cut through routes.

Hey, asshole. Stop being such a douche. The question is over Cedar Lane itself, NONE of which is in Vienna. You lose. You do of course have the right to continue being a stupid jerk. None of your stupid actions however will be of any help to your commuting efforts.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Hey, asshole. Stop being such a douche. The
> question is over Cedar Lane itself, NONE of which
> is in Vienna. You lose. You do of course have
> the right to continue being a stupid jerk. None
> of your stupid actions however will be of any help
> to your commuting efforts.

The question of this thread is about the food and bands of Viva Vienna. Of course, you took the usual detour. Hah! Kind of like the detours I use to cut through Vienna! The median of Cedar Lane is the town boundary. That's why addresses on the Vienna side of the road are three digits and are followed by SW. They're all part of the Town of Vienna. For example: Cedar Lane School 101 Cedar Lane, SW. In any event, it is all irrelevant as anyone can use the numerous side streets such as Tapawingo, Kingsley, Park, Cottage, etc. to get to Cedar to bypass 123.

How dumb can you be? The land inside the boundary is in the town. No part of Cedar Lane is in the town, hence it’s exclusion from the town’s streets inventory. Still too complex for you? Trying to be a ‘side-street driver’ will of course WASTE time, not save it. These are the facts, and the town acts to ensure that they always will be.

And it was your own sorry ass who reignited your latest crash-and-burn scenario re this topic. It has of course led to the same end as always. Stupid.

Correct the right-of-way between the shopping center and Cedar Lane is the Town Line. The Town Line follows that ROW line all the way to the I-66 bridge. Cedar Lane is not within the Tow limits. The two traffic signals are not maintained by the Town either.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> How dumb can you be? The land inside the boundary
> is in the town. No part of Cedar Lane is in the
> town, hence it’s exclusion from the town’s
> streets inventory. Still too complex for you?
> Trying to be a ‘side-street driver’ will of
> course WASTE time, not save it. These are the
> facts, and the town acts to ensure that they
> always will be.
>
> And it was your own sorry ass who reignited your
> latest crash-and-burn scenario re this topic. It
> has of course led to the same end as always.
> Stupid.

It is all irrelevant as anyone can use the numerous side streets such as Tapawingo, Kingsley, Park, Cottage, etc. to get to Cedar to bypass 123.

Keep your eye on the ball. It's about to pass you by.

Courthouse to Ware. Hmm, then what? Kingsley or Tapawingo? From there, do I pick Cottage or Park? These and so many other combinations available.

LOL! All of them will lead to places that you could have reached more quickly and easily simply by sticking with the established bypass routes. Being able to read street names off of Google maps is not a skill of any particular value, but self-delusion is seemingly a popular thing these days.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> LOL! All of them will lead to places that you
> could have reached more quickly and easily simply
> by sticking with the established bypass routes.
> Being able to read street names off of Google maps
> is not a skill of any particular value, but
> self-delusion is seemingly a popular thing these
> days.


Wrong, asshole. Those "bypass" routes can occasionally turn into parking lots. The aforementioned neighborhood streets routinely run at the same and consistent speed and provide for a predictable arrival time no matter the traffic conditions on the "bypass" routes. Nothing is left to chance by taking the neighborhood streets. Really, it's fine, sit in traffic while I keep moving.

Reminder: You are a three-time loser on this topic. Your Google map options don’t take you anywhere. They only slow you down, which is exactly what the Town intends.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Reminder: You are a three-time loser on this
> topic. Your Google map options don’t take you
> anywhere. They only slow you down, which is
> exactly what the Town intends.


Actually, I've won on these side streets far more than three times. In fact, too many times to count. I don't head out that way as often as I used to, but I'm certain they'll still be viable options for me should I need them.

Have you ever asked yourself why it bothers you so much that someone else drives through the neighborhoods of Vienna instead of sticking to 123? Why does it make you so butthurt?

human GPS Wrote:
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> All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Reminder: You are a three-time loser on this
> > topic. Your Google map options don’t take
> you
> > anywhere. They only slow you down, which is
> > exactly what the Town intends.
>
>
> Actually, I've won on these side streets far more
> than three times. In fact, too many times to
> count. I don't head out that way as often as I
> used to, but I'm certain they'll still be viable
> options for me should I need them.
>
> Have you ever asked yourself why it bothers you so
> much that someone else drives through the
> neighborhoods of Vienna instead of sticking to
> 123? Why does it make you so butthurt?


Because he's a dumbfuck who regularly says stupid shit which you can easily use to bait him into arguing for days about?

lol

What bothers me is lying assholes in general. As an habitual lying asshole, you frequently come in for the sorts of beating that you have been burned by here.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> What bothers me is lying assholes in general. As
> an habitual lying asshole, you frequently come in
> for the sorts of beating that you have been burned
> by here.


The beating only exists in your addled brain. Meanwhile, I and many others have figured out that taking a few residential streets through Vienna saves time and hassle. The city's own traffic study confirmed that some residential cut-rhroughs hsndle nearly 30% of the vehicles as cit-through traffic. If you don't like it, point to a study that supports your babbling lies. If not, let the city's study be a constant reminder of your incompetent stupidity.

No, the vicious beatings you so routinely receive here are all too real. You are just a hapless moron who is not able to keep his lying assholeness under wraps.

The 2007 town study you have so naively cited has no bearing at all on your insipid claims merely from now being so badly out of date. As your Google maps apparently don't show, multiple "traffic calming" measures have been added in the SW quadrant in the eleven years since, each one designed to make outsider use of neighborhood streets an even less attractive proposition than it already had been. As has been noted, use of the routes you suggest will only INCREASE the time it takes a driver to get from one side of Vienna to the other in comparison to sticking to the bypass routes long ago established for that purpose.

The fact that you are too dumb to realize any of this only confirms the fact that you do not ctually live in Vienna and further have no actual occasion to use any of these streets during the morning rush.

In your past dismal failures here, you have boasted of beating morning traffic on 123 by traveling in the afternoon. That still works, but none of your other dingbat ideas has ever offered any success or credibility at all.

You FAIL! Badly!

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> The 2007 town study you have so naively cited has
> no bearing at all on your insipid claims merely
> from now being so badly out of date. As your
> Google maps apparently don't show, multiple
> "traffic calming" measures have been added in the
> SW quadrant in the eleven years since, each one
> designed to make outsider use of neighborhood
> streets an even less attractive proposition than
> it already had been. As has been noted, use of
> the routes you suggest will only INCREASE the time
> it takes a driver to get from one side of Vienna
> to the other in comparison to sticking to the
> bypass routes long ago established for that
> purpose.

A few stop signs is hardly worse than sitting at a string of unsynchronized lights. In any even, what do you care if my travel time is increased? In fact, it is rarely increased as it is a steady and consistent time regardless of the traffic conditions on Maple.

> The fact that you are too dumb to realize any of
> this only confirms the fact that you do not
> ctually live in Vienna and further have no actual
> occasion to use any of these streets during the
> morning rush.

I am thankful to not have to live in Vienna? Who said anything about morning rush? I'm talking any time of day and any day of the week. Using Tapawingo or Kingsley is preferable to this driver.

Time to tone down your butthurt. You look pathetic.

human GPS Wrote:
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> A few stop signs is hardly worse than sitting at a
> string of unsynchronized lights.

More evidence that you never actually drive in Vienna. If you did, the expanded speed-hump population would long ago have come to the fore. Speed-humps don't show up on Google maps, do they.

> In any event, what do you care if my travel time is
> increased? In fact, it is rarely increased as it is
> a steady and consistent time regardless of the traffic
> conditions on Maple.

Not the point, Professor Pathetic. The point is that you would do better in trying to avoid 123 (where the lights are indeed synchronized, btw) by following the established bypass routes than in trying to slog through residential neighborhoods full of traffic-calming obstacles.

> I am thankful to not have to live in Vienna?

Your deep-seated envy of Vienna says you wish you did. Back when I lived in Falls Church, I felt the same way. So glad to have become successful enough to have moved out of all that inside-the-Beltway crowding and decay.

> Who said anything about morning rush? I'm talking any
> time of day and any day of the week.

LOL! In The Gambler, Kenny Rogers advises that "You got to know when to fold 'em" and that's exactly what you just did. Anyone talking about the "bad traffic" in Vienna is referring to 123 toward Tysons in the morning rush and -- to a lesser extent -- away from Tysons in the evening rush. The rest of the time, Vienna is as easy to negotiate as anywhere in the vicinity.

> Using Tapawingo or Kingsley is preferable to this driver.

Suit yourself, dumbass, but neither of them crosses the bike-path, so don't expect to get any further than that without returning to 123 or Cedar Lane. Don't expect either to get away with even more lying through your teeth here about your phony exploits. You don't live in Vienna and only rarely drive anywhere near the place.

> Time to tone down your butthurt. You look pathetic.

Fuck off, Your Worthlessness. Some things never change, and your feckless ineptitude is one of them.

(I'm George Bromley, and I approved this message.)

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> human GPS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A few stop signs is hardly worse than sitting at
> a
> > string of unsynchronized lights.
>
> More evidence that you never actually drive in
> Vienna. If you did, the expanded speed-hump
> population would long ago have come to the fore.
> Speed-humps don't show up on Google maps, do
> they.
>
> > In any event, what do you care if my travel time
> is
> > increased? In fact, it is rarely increased as
> it is
> > a steady and consistent time regardless of the
> traffic
> > conditions on Maple.
>
> Not the point, Professor Pathetic. The point is
> that you would do better in trying to avoid 123
> (where the lights are indeed synchronized, btw) by
> following the established bypass routes than in
> trying to slog through residential neighborhoods
> full of traffic-calming obstacles.
>
> > I am thankful to not have to live in Vienna?
>
> Your deep-seated envy of Vienna says you wish you
> did. Back when I lived in Falls Church, I felt
> the same way. So glad to have become successful
> enough to have moved out of all that
> inside-the-Beltway crowding and decay.
>
> > Who said anything about morning rush? I'm
> talking any
> > time of day and any day of the week.
>
> LOL! In The Gambler, Kenny Rogers advises
> that "You got to know when to fold 'em" and that's
> exactly what you just did. Anyone talking about
> the "bad traffic" in Vienna is referring to 123
> toward Tysons in the morning rush and -- to a
> lesser extent -- away from Tysons in the evening
> rush. The rest of the time, Vienna is as easy to
> negotiate as anywhere in the vicinity.
>
> > Using Tapawingo or Kingsley is preferable to
> this driver.
>
> Suit yourself, dumbass, but neither of them
> crosses the bike-path, so don't expect to get any
> further than that without returning to 123 or
> Cedar Lane. Don't expect either to get away with
> even more lying through your teeth here about your
> phony exploits. You don't live in Vienna and only
> rarely drive anywhere near the place.
>
> > Time to tone down your butthurt. You look
> pathetic.
>
> Fuck off, Your Worthlessness. Some things never
> change, and your feckless ineptitude is one of
> them.
>
> (I'm George Bromley, and I approved this message.)



Vienna is a traffic clusterfuck.

We already knew that.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> human GPS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A few stop signs is hardly worse than sitting at
> a
> > string of unsynchronized lights.
>
> More evidence that you never actually drive in
> Vienna. If you did, the expanded speed-hump
> population would long ago have come to the fore.
> Speed-humps don't show up on Google maps, do
> they.
>
> > In any event, what do you care if my travel time
> is
> > increased? In fact, it is rarely increased as
> it is
> > a steady and consistent time regardless of the
> traffic
> > conditions on Maple.
>
> Not the point, Professor Pathetic. The point is
> that you would do better in trying to avoid 123
> (where the lights are indeed synchronized, btw) by
> following the established bypass routes than in
> trying to slog through residential neighborhoods
> full of traffic-calming obstacles.
>
> > I am thankful to not have to live in Vienna?
>
> Your deep-seated envy of Vienna says you wish you
> did. Back when I lived in Falls Church, I felt
> the same way. So glad to have become successful
> enough to have moved out of all that
> inside-the-Beltway crowding and decay.
>
> > Who said anything about morning rush? I'm
> talking any
> > time of day and any day of the week.
>
> LOL! In The Gambler, Kenny Rogers advises
> that "You got to know when to fold 'em" and that's
> exactly what you just did. Anyone talking about
> the "bad traffic" in Vienna is referring to 123
> toward Tysons in the morning rush and -- to a
> lesser extent -- away from Tysons in the evening
> rush. The rest of the time, Vienna is as easy to
> negotiate as anywhere in the vicinity.
>
> > Using Tapawingo or Kingsley is preferable to
> this driver.
>
> Suit yourself, dumbass, but neither of them
> crosses the bike-path, so don't expect to get any
> further than that without returning to 123 or
> Cedar Lane. Don't expect either to get away with
> even more lying through your teeth here about your
> phony exploits. You don't live in Vienna and only
> rarely drive anywhere near the place.
>
> > Time to tone down your butthurt. You look
> pathetic.
>
> Fuck off, Your Worthlessness. Some things never
> change, and your feckless ineptitude is one of
> them.
>
> (I'm George Bromley, and I approved this message.)


Damn, what a dumbass you are. The speed humps on Tapawingo and Kingsley are minimal. Maybe one or two. Again, inconsequential compared to unsynchronized lights and the lack of turning lanes on parts of Maple. Face it, Vienna is the armpit of NOVA and people like me will cut through the neighborhoods at will to avoid shitty 123 and spending any more time than necessary in Vienna.

The traffic study confirmed the long standing ritual of drivers like me cutting through the neighborhood streets littered with disgustingly ugly architectural designs and algae covered asbestos shingled homes.

123 sucks at multiple times of day, any day of the week and in any direction. To avoid any unforeseen problematic spots, it's a simple proposition to take the reliably consistent cut through routes that lead to predictable travel times.

Keep up your butthurt. It amuses me.

There’s not much that you actually know at all. This is especially true qwhen it comes to things about Vienna.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> There’s not much that you actually know at all.
> This is especially true qwhen it comes to things
> about Vienna.

All anyone needs to know about Vienna is the quickest way to cut through it in the event one needs to get through the area with the least amount if hassle. Beyond that, it's nothing more than a shithole propped up by butthurt morons who've had their asses handed to them on multiple occasions.

As any rational person would have realized long ago, the quickest way to get from one side of Vienna to the other during rush hour is to stick with established bypass routes. Investments in any sort of fantasy cut-through paths are all going to come up empty.

The town itself is of course a terrific family-oriented spot with great schools, great community spirit, tons of green-space parks and playgrounds, plus actual yards large enough to toss or kick a ball around in. There are also youth sports of many sorts, plus shopping, dining, and transportation options out the wazoo. Hard to think of a place that can actually compete.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> As any rational person would have realized long
> ago, the quickest way to get from one side of
> Vienna to the other during rush hour is to stick
> with established bypass routes. Investments in
> any sort of fantasy cut-through paths are all
> going to come up empty.
>
> The town itself is of course a terrific
> family-oriented spot with great schools, great
> community spirit, tons of green-space parks and
> playgrounds, plus actual yards large enough to
> toss or kick a ball around in. There are also
> youth sports of many sorts, plus shopping, dining,
> and transportation options out the wazoo. Hard to
> think of a place that can actually compete.
terrible clusterfuck of traffic.

Look elsewhere unless you want to lose 2 hours of your life every day sitting in that mess.


^ FIFY

Only drooling west county slowpokes actually do so. Smart folks know their way around.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Only drooling west county slowpokes actually do
> so. Smart folks know their way around to
avoid Vienna entirely.

^ FIFY

In favor of...

(Pardon me while I laugh in advance...)

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> As any rational person would have realized long
> ago, the quickest way to get from one side of
> Vienna to the other during rush hour is to stick
> with established bypass routes. Investments in
> any sort of fantasy cut-through paths are all
> going to come up empty.
>
> The town itself is of course a terrific
> family-oriented spot with great schools, great
> community spirit, tons of green-space parks and
> playgrounds, plus actual yards large enough to
> toss or kick a ball around in. There are also
> youth sports of many sorts, plus shopping, dining,
> and transportation options out the wazoo. Hard to
> think of a place that can actually compete.


Don't mind if I stick to my cut through routes. You can take the bypasses. Vienna is a well established speed bump on the way to Tyson's from Fairfax. Nothing more, nothing less.

Why would anyone take 123 to get from Fairfax to Tyson’s?

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Why would anyone take 123 to get from Fairfax to
> Tyson’s?

Exactly. Best to use the neighborhood streets of Vienna to avoid it.

More evidence for how very little you know of local geography.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> More evidence for how very little you know of
> local geography.


Keep babbling, you bumbling noon.

Well, at any time of day, a sensible person would not use 123 to travel from Fairfax to Tysons. You’re so unfamiliar with any of that turf that you simply made a fool of yourself over it. Yet again.

All new Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> Well, at any time of day, a sensible person would
> not use 123 to travel from Fairfax to Tysons.
> You’re so unfamiliar with any of that turf that
> you simply made a fool of yourself over it. Yet
> again.


Exactly. Sensible folks know the neighborhood cut-through streets are the wisest option when navigating through Vienna. Although, 123 is a direct route between the two involving no turns. As you pointed out, however, sensible people avoid 123 almost at any cost. This includes utilizing the neighborhood streets as cut-throughs.

True. Maple is fucked up all day.

Better to just avoid the Vienna area entirely. Unless you're one of the poor schmucks who live there and have to deal with that shit on a daily basis it's just not worth.