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it's a flammable accordian divider. somehow thought to be better than a curtain (unsure why). they "save space" by requiring little area for the receeded door to be stored in
some are not easily pulled by hand due to design - but some are pulled by hand by design
the one above appears to be hand operated
i'm unsure of any legitimate reason to have a ceiling 5x higher than necessary and to split a gym in half "at times"
leave the fucking thing alone there's no reason to divide the room: remove the damn door, walk away
here's ANOTHER BAD IDEA, from the google stupid architects archive!
In complex litigation, if anyone were responsible it would be the Teacher herself. However due to (xxxxx) the parents enjoy the right to sue the County and the county would then have the "job" of finding the woman and recovering the awarded money.
Judges are not magicians and are NOT LEGALLY allowed to sign papers as if they are:
#2 the Judge could not award more money than the teacher would be able to be sued for. you cannot bleed a turnip.
#1 the limit for accidental death is $10k (for injury part only) to prevent awards for death leading to criminals targeting children for deaths
Oh yea we put in a missle sensor system to make sure your fingers don't get pinched!
You got the most modern convenient door available you already - if you think it's going to know when your walking toward it you've been watching too much TV!
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Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
A Parent 123
()
Date: May 20, 2018 07:26AM
https://patch.com/virginia/kingstowne/boy-crushed-death-freak-school-accident-police
This poor 9 year old boy was killed by pure negligence and a criminal level disregard for common safety around children. FCPD says "no charges expected to be filed" WTF!
At the very least the Principal and the adult in charge at the time of the reckless endangerment should be fired.
Imagine sending your beloved child to school every day and winding up with that child's head crushed by machinery because of purely incompetent staff members of the FCPS. I can't imagine the pain those parents are going through right now. How do these FCPS people sleep at night?
This poor 9 year old boy was killed by pure negligence and a criminal level disregard for common safety around children. FCPD says "no charges expected to be filed" WTF!
At the very least the Principal and the adult in charge at the time of the reckless endangerment should be fired.
Imagine sending your beloved child to school every day and winding up with that child's head crushed by machinery because of purely incompetent staff members of the FCPS. I can't imagine the pain those parents are going through right now. How do these FCPS people sleep at night?
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Dickless Libtards
()
Date: May 20, 2018 07:40AM
Congrats snowflake. Your virtue signaling is done for the day.
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Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
holmes run
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Date: May 20, 2018 07:44AM
A Parent 123 Wrote:
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> https://patch.com/virginia/kingstowne/boy-crushed-
> death-freak-school-accident-police
>
> This poor 9 year old boy was killed by pure
> negligence and a criminal level disregard for
> common safety around children. FCPD says "no
> charges expected to be filed" WTF!
> At the very least the Principal and the adult in
> charge at the time of the reckless endangerment
> should be fired.
> Imagine sending your beloved child to school every
> day and winding up with that child's head crushed
> by machinery because of purely incompetent staff
> members of the FCPS. I can't imagine the pain
> those parents are going through right now. How do
> these FCPS people sleep at night?
Teachers and staff sleep just fine. The safety of the children is job 1 but you can't expect perfection. Now fuck off.
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> https://patch.com/virginia/kingstowne/boy-crushed-
> death-freak-school-accident-police
>
> This poor 9 year old boy was killed by pure
> negligence and a criminal level disregard for
> common safety around children. FCPD says "no
> charges expected to be filed" WTF!
> At the very least the Principal and the adult in
> charge at the time of the reckless endangerment
> should be fired.
> Imagine sending your beloved child to school every
> day and winding up with that child's head crushed
> by machinery because of purely incompetent staff
> members of the FCPS. I can't imagine the pain
> those parents are going through right now. How do
> these FCPS people sleep at night?
Teachers and staff sleep just fine. The safety of the children is job 1 but you can't expect perfection. Now fuck off.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Just.Axin
()
Date: May 20, 2018 07:49AM
Now...Lipicky? That's what...a Polack? Hell, Hitler tried to exterminate those stupid fucks. What's one more on the pile 70 years later? The world is overcrowded. Progressive nations like China are trying to address the problem. This teacher did the world a favor...
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
f stop.
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Date: May 20, 2018 07:55AM
Here are the persons responsible, The captains of the ship. Fire them both!
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Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
How many Polacks did it take too
()
Date: May 20, 2018 10:45AM
?
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Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Lipicky ghost
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Date: May 20, 2018 11:24AM
Kid suffered from severe autism n what his pants 3x day!
I’m an administrator there
I’m an administrator there
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
local man 73
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Date: May 20, 2018 02:03PM
It was an accident, shit happens. FCPS hardly ever kills kids.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
WTOP: TOKYO ROSE
()
Date: May 20, 2018 06:53PM
> "no charges expected to be filed"
WTOP: TOKYO ROSE. they are the voice of DNC criminals in the area, nothing more.
there isn't a chance in hell partents won't file a suit. the limitation of is supposed to be $10,000 for recovery (as the dead cannot benefit)
however: the united states supreme court caught democrats all up&down the east cost doing multi-million dollar payouts that "benefitted dnc members" and had to make a law against it
(the previous limit was already $10k, the lawsuits mentioned were illegal already - USSC actually gave criminals an excuse - typical of democrats)
WTOP: TOKYO ROSE. they are the voice of DNC criminals in the area, nothing more.
WTOP: TOKYO ROSE. they are the voice of DNC criminals in the area, nothing more.
there isn't a chance in hell partents won't file a suit. the limitation of is supposed to be $10,000 for recovery (as the dead cannot benefit)
however: the united states supreme court caught democrats all up&down the east cost doing multi-million dollar payouts that "benefitted dnc members" and had to make a law against it
(the previous limit was already $10k, the lawsuits mentioned were illegal already - USSC actually gave criminals an excuse - typical of democrats)
WTOP: TOKYO ROSE. they are the voice of DNC criminals in the area, nothing more.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
wgjv4
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Date: May 20, 2018 06:57PM
#1 illegal hispanics installed a reckless system that could harm children
#2 ONLY THE JANITOR should have had "permission" to use a deadly machine on the premises
#3 despite that: these "partitions" have been in operation in fairfax county for DECADES and i've seen one and been warned of them during operation (to stand clear), being operated by a teacher not a janitor i should add.
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let's remember it was an accident and "car door windows" ALSO KILL (more frequently)
that doesn't mean the INSURANCE COMPANY covering (legal injury) for that school isn't due to pay, oh, at least $10,000
#2 ONLY THE JANITOR should have had "permission" to use a deadly machine on the premises
#3 despite that: these "partitions" have been in operation in fairfax county for DECADES and i've seen one and been warned of them during operation (to stand clear), being operated by a teacher not a janitor i should add.
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let's remember it was an accident and "car door windows" ALSO KILL (more frequently)
that doesn't mean the INSURANCE COMPANY covering (legal injury) for that school isn't due to pay, oh, at least $10,000
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
cp63x
()
Date: May 20, 2018 06:58PM
"book smarts don't mean shit"
teachers should not operate deadly equipment unless they separately qualified as janitors (have experience, ie, working on live wiring, high pressure lines, deadly things)
teachers should not operate deadly equipment unless they separately qualified as janitors (have experience, ie, working on live wiring, high pressure lines, deadly things)
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
vphhe
()
Date: May 20, 2018 07:01PM
back when the systems were first installed (mid 80's or perhaps late 80's i'd guess) there were no "minimal force" necessary limitations (that door slide easily and the motor be weak), nor were there any system (like in garage door openers) to cause a moving door to reverse direction
the engineers were wrong, the manufacturer is WRONG, and i told the school that 30 years ago
the engineers were wrong, the manufacturer is WRONG, and i told the school that 30 years ago
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
ytntd
()
Date: May 20, 2018 07:10PM
^ i mean decades ago such a thing was considered normal and operated "by the man" (by a janitor), not any idiot walking around. they were keyed if i remember. i wonder if those keys walked out the door (probably being used in mexico right now?)
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
b3pyx
()
Date: May 20, 2018 07:13PM
perhaps teachers and children should ALSO be allowed in the BOILER ROOM and adjust it as they see fit?
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
tim wockniac
()
Date: May 20, 2018 07:16PM
> i've seen one and been warned of them during operation (to stand clear), being operated by a teacher not a janitor i should add
me too. i asked why i should stand back and the responsible person said "because it can crush you". i said: "are you crazy if it can crush me why is it in a school?". the educated person didn't answer. i believe i said "then it shouldn't have a motor it should just slide". the educated person answered, "do you see the size of the door? how can it slide?"
decades later i can answer: you lazy fucks - sliding doors are easy get to work
me too. i asked why i should stand back and the responsible person said "because it can crush you". i said: "are you crazy if it can crush me why is it in a school?". the educated person didn't answer. i believe i said "then it shouldn't have a motor it should just slide". the educated person answered, "do you see the size of the door? how can it slide?"
decades later i can answer: you lazy fucks - sliding doors are easy get to work
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Wowwowie
()
Date: May 20, 2018 07:20PM
I think this WHOLE post(besides me), was written by the same motherfucker!
U need some help!
Seek help immediately!
U need some help!
Seek help immediately!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
A teacher 2.0
()
Date: May 20, 2018 08:19PM
FCPS kids have a 0.0012% chance of being killed at school. Move on.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
The button man
()
Date: May 21, 2018 07:41AM
Motorized partitions normally have two switches, one on either side of the partition. Both must be held on to activate the panels. These switches are always keyed devices on those I've seen and used.
Did staff member ask a student to help operating the panels?
Did staff member ask a student to help operating the panels?
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
70's.Kid
()
Date: May 21, 2018 08:51AM
The button man Wrote:
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> Motorized partitions normally have two switches,
> one on either side of the partition. Both must be
> held on to activate the panels. These switches are
> always keyed devices on those I've seen and used.
>
>
> Did staff member ask a student to help operating
> the panels?
Seriously...why was that student anywhere near those partitions? Back in my day, when it was time to move the partition? Yeah...they used to load us up on buses and send us home for the day for our safety.
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> Motorized partitions normally have two switches,
> one on either side of the partition. Both must be
> held on to activate the panels. These switches are
> always keyed devices on those I've seen and used.
>
>
> Did staff member ask a student to help operating
> the panels?
Seriously...why was that student anywhere near those partitions? Back in my day, when it was time to move the partition? Yeah...they used to load us up on buses and send us home for the day for our safety.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Whatstoknow?
()
Date: May 21, 2018 10:23AM
The teacher said “Stop! Get back!” The student didn’t.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
tdcub
()
Date: May 21, 2018 01:52PM
it's a flammable accordian divider. somehow thought to be better than a curtain (unsure why). they "save space" by requiring little area for the receeded door to be stored in
some are not easily pulled by hand due to design - but some are pulled by hand by design
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
dv7ty
()
Date: May 21, 2018 01:53PM
the one above appears to be hand operated
i'm unsure of any legitimate reason to have a ceiling 5x higher than necessary and to split a gym in half "at times"
leave the fucking thing alone there's no reason to divide the room: remove the damn door, walk away
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
ukmjn
()
Date: May 21, 2018 01:56PM
here's ANOTHER BAD IDEA, from the google stupid architects archive!
can anyone tell me the potential problems of the above other than being trapped while the door is moving (which is also a problem at a stairway, obviously)
?
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
wondering2
()
Date: May 21, 2018 04:48PM
So, was it a teacher or a custodian that killed the kid? Teachers generally have little to no common sense. Only custodians should be allowed to use these devices.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
door man
()
Date: May 21, 2018 04:55PM
wondering2 Wrote:
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> So, was it a teacher or a custodian that killed
> the kid? Teachers generally have little to no
> common sense. Only custodians should be allowed to
> use these devices.
Read the article dumbass. It was a teacher who did the killing. We need to know that teachers name.
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> So, was it a teacher or a custodian that killed
> the kid? Teachers generally have little to no
> common sense. Only custodians should be allowed to
> use these devices.
Read the article dumbass. It was a teacher who did the killing. We need to know that teachers name.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Creeper.
()
Date: May 21, 2018 05:18PM
Janitors are too busy kid groping. Why they give them their own closets in the back cornes of the schools I will never understand...
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Msknowitall
()
Date: May 21, 2018 07:45PM
Actually the boy died during the SACC program, which is not run by FCPS. It’s run by the County so if anyone is held responsible, it should be them. The school administration has very little to do with the program.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Huh???
()
Date: May 21, 2018 08:20PM
Msknowitall Wrote:
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> Actually the boy died during the SACC program,
> which is not run by FCPS. It’s run by the County
> so if anyone is held responsible, it should be
> them. The school administration has very little to
> do with the program.
They have little to do with the operation of SACC, however SACC is FCPS' vendor. They submitted a bid to provide aftercare services on school property. SACC and its personnel are ultimately responsible here...and FCPS bears some responsibility for the horribly selected and installed accordion door system as illustrated in other posts above.
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> Actually the boy died during the SACC program,
> which is not run by FCPS. It’s run by the County
> so if anyone is held responsible, it should be
> them. The school administration has very little to
> do with the program.
They have little to do with the operation of SACC, however SACC is FCPS' vendor. They submitted a bid to provide aftercare services on school property. SACC and its personnel are ultimately responsible here...and FCPS bears some responsibility for the horribly selected and installed accordion door system as illustrated in other posts above.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
No Key Switch = Lawsuit
()
Date: May 21, 2018 08:45PM
Every sliding door partition system I have ever seen has a electric switch operated by a key and I have seen hundreds. If indeed a push button switch existed, that's a law suit in a school, even a high school.
Sliding curtains are different, these are light weight, sliding partition doors are heavier and more solid. But in a school, always a key switch, never a push button
FXCO Loss prevention : cut a check for 1.2 million, after the family settles
That's probably what will happen. That school is old late 30's and has been renovated several times. I wonder if the system was new and no one caught it
Sliding curtains are different, these are light weight, sliding partition doors are heavier and more solid. But in a school, always a key switch, never a push button
FXCO Loss prevention : cut a check for 1.2 million, after the family settles
That's probably what will happen. That school is old late 30's and has been renovated several times. I wonder if the system was new and no one caught it
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Fairfax County and FCPS
()
Date: May 21, 2018 09:00PM
Fairfax County does not maintain school buildings or write specifications for any schools even if any county programs may be housed in a FCPS school. FCPS does, they have a new school construction dept and a contract renovations dept for their schools plus school maintenance operations and custodial . This is entirely the schools problem, but it all comes out of the same pocket, yours.
The Board of Supervisors have nothing to do with these issues other then provide the schools their budgeted money and get bond referendums for new construction/renovations on the ballots for citizens to decide. There are 2 separate sets of specifications for architects, one for the county, one for the schools.
The Board of Supervisors have nothing to do with these issues other then provide the schools their budgeted money and get bond referendums for new construction/renovations on the ballots for citizens to decide. There are 2 separate sets of specifications for architects, one for the county, one for the schools.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Lessier Jr
()
Date: May 22, 2018 07:22AM
Weather it was a key or a button or a lever the fact remains that this kids head was crushed due to criminal negligence. The county is going to lose a shit load of cash and the responsible adult will face a civil suit as well as a possible criminal charge. All the wealth that the "responsible" adult has gained will be taken at the very least.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Tmbnv
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:00AM
With changes in FCPS spending priorities there is probably only one janitor on duty at that time and he can't be everywhere.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
call VSP
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:26AM
The FCPD cannot perform a legit investigation, they are partial to FCPS. We need the Virginia state police to look into this.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
CranApple
()
Date: May 22, 2018 09:55AM
Huh??? Wrote:
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> Msknowitall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually the boy died during the SACC program,
> > which is not run by FCPS. It’s run by the
> County
> > so if anyone is held responsible, it should be
> > them. The school administration has very little
> to
> > do with the program.
>
> They have little to do with the operation of SACC,
> however SACC is FCPS' vendor. They submitted a bid
> to provide aftercare services on school property.
> SACC and its personnel are ultimately responsible
> here...and FCPS bears some responsibility for the
> horribly selected and installed accordion door
> system as illustrated in other posts above.
This.
The school was recently renovated. Why did this type of door get selected over a safer more up to date version? Why do the SACC people have access to the keys that operate the switch and who trained the operator?
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> Msknowitall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually the boy died during the SACC program,
> > which is not run by FCPS. It’s run by the
> County
> > so if anyone is held responsible, it should be
> > them. The school administration has very little
> to
> > do with the program.
>
> They have little to do with the operation of SACC,
> however SACC is FCPS' vendor. They submitted a bid
> to provide aftercare services on school property.
> SACC and its personnel are ultimately responsible
> here...and FCPS bears some responsibility for the
> horribly selected and installed accordion door
> system as illustrated in other posts above.
This.
The school was recently renovated. Why did this type of door get selected over a safer more up to date version? Why do the SACC people have access to the keys that operate the switch and who trained the operator?
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
sacc kids are expendable
()
Date: May 22, 2018 10:31AM
LIke headstart kids in the inner cities, sacc kids are expendable.
Grim reaper likes gifts too!
Grim reaper likes gifts too!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
staff directory
()
Date: May 22, 2018 11:04AM
CranApple Wrote:
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> Huh??? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Msknowitall Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Actually the boy died during the SACC
> program,
> > > which is not run by FCPS. It’s run by the
> > County
> > > so if anyone is held responsible, it should
> be
> > > them. The school administration has very
> little
> > to
> > > do with the program.
> >
> > They have little to do with the operation of
> SACC,
> > however SACC is FCPS' vendor. They submitted a
> bid
> > to provide aftercare services on school
> property.
> > SACC and its personnel are ultimately
> responsible
> > here...and FCPS bears some responsibility for
> the
> > horribly selected and installed accordion door
> > system as illustrated in other posts above.
>
> This.
>
> The school was recently renovated. Why did this
> type of door get selected over a safer more up to
> date version? Why do the SACC people have access
> to the keys that operate the switch and who
> trained the operator?
Good question for this lady,
Principal
Terri Edmunds-Heard
tledmundshea@fcps.edu
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> Huh??? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Msknowitall Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Actually the boy died during the SACC
> program,
> > > which is not run by FCPS. It’s run by the
> > County
> > > so if anyone is held responsible, it should
> be
> > > them. The school administration has very
> little
> > to
> > > do with the program.
> >
> > They have little to do with the operation of
> SACC,
> > however SACC is FCPS' vendor. They submitted a
> bid
> > to provide aftercare services on school
> property.
> > SACC and its personnel are ultimately
> responsible
> > here...and FCPS bears some responsibility for
> the
> > horribly selected and installed accordion door
> > system as illustrated in other posts above.
>
> This.
>
> The school was recently renovated. Why did this
> type of door get selected over a safer more up to
> date version? Why do the SACC people have access
> to the keys that operate the switch and who
> trained the operator?
Good question for this lady,
Principal
Terri Edmunds-Heard
tledmundshea@fcps.edu
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
former fcps dad
()
Date: May 22, 2018 01:58PM
This is why I send my kids to the Highland school.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
pe coach
()
Date: May 22, 2018 03:21PM
Whatstoknow? Wrote:
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> The teacher said “Stop! Get back!” The
> student didn’t.
The kid should have stopped but he got back instead and got crushed. The teacher is clearly at fault.
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> The teacher said “Stop! Get back!” The
> student didn’t.
The kid should have stopped but he got back instead and got crushed. The teacher is clearly at fault.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
teacher 17 plus
()
Date: May 22, 2018 07:57PM
I heard someone is getting fired!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
wchjv
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:05PM
Creeper. Wrote:
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> Janitors are too busy kid groping. Why they give
> them their own closets in the back cornes of the
> schools I will never understand...
were there glass ceilings in Fairfax in the 80's or not?
when i was in school it seemed the Head Janitors (there was only one, the 1980's one man job: a building) were ALL BLACK. if you spoke to them casually - perhaps asked a question - they knew their shit and were friendly - but also too busy to say much more
it seemed whenever work was done that was not (a one man job), two white guys in a dually arrived
there was no "hispanic lady with a job deciding who's hired to do criminally un-necessary labor in every school because ...." AS I SAID - it was all done by one person (not including cleaning, i didn't say cleaning - though the janitor did some of that i'm sure)
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> Janitors are too busy kid groping. Why they give
> them their own closets in the back cornes of the
> schools I will never understand...
were there glass ceilings in Fairfax in the 80's or not?
when i was in school it seemed the Head Janitors (there was only one, the 1980's one man job: a building) were ALL BLACK. if you spoke to them casually - perhaps asked a question - they knew their shit and were friendly - but also too busy to say much more
it seemed whenever work was done that was not (a one man job), two white guys in a dually arrived
there was no "hispanic lady with a job deciding who's hired to do criminally un-necessary labor in every school because ...." AS I SAID - it was all done by one person (not including cleaning, i didn't say cleaning - though the janitor did some of that i'm sure)
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
euk63
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:07PM
Msknowitall Wrote:
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> Actually the boy died during the SACC program,
> which is not run by FCPS. It’s run by the County
> so if anyone is held responsible, it should be
> them. The school administration has very little to
> do with the program.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Actually the boy died during the SACC program,
> which is not run by FCPS. It’s run by the County
> so if anyone is held responsible, it should be
> them. The school administration has very little to
> do with the program.
SACC is Clinton era job creation / democrat fast tracking bullshit. it's part of using FCPS to spread communits that vote democrat
SACC DID NOT EXIST BEFORE CLINTON
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
ujmkw
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:09PM
SACC is a "free food" for minorities on welfare program - which still runs - despite the fact during OBAMA it became a "three free meals a day" program
SACC has %100 nothing to do with janitors and doors
SACC has %100 nothing to do with janitors and doors
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
jfygy
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Date: May 22, 2018 08:11PM
No Key Switch = Lawsuit Wrote:
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> Every sliding door partition system I have ever
> seen has a electric switch operated by a key and I
> have seen hundreds.
Pics or it didn't happen. Your full of shit. Your not a virginia school inspector, have not visited hundres of schools
what you are: is a PATHETIC LIAR so stupid you can't see we all know your lying
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> Every sliding door partition system I have ever
> seen has a electric switch operated by a key and I
> have seen hundreds.
Pics or it didn't happen. Your full of shit. Your not a virginia school inspector, have not visited hundres of schools
what you are: is a PATHETIC LIAR so stupid you can't see we all know your lying
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
mfxxl
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:14PM
FXCO Loss prevention : cut a check for 1.2 million, after the family settles
That's probably what will happen.
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completely illegal
the limitation for suffering (alone) is about $10,000
if the limit were well over a million: every sack of shit in fairfax would be using a spic and nigga in the school system to kill their kid to get rich quick
the limit on death is low because it protects people from having a price on their head for MURDER
if fx co gov awards a million: i would sue them in criminal court for running a death insurance ring - killing people for money
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
asdf34r
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:16PM
> The Board of Supervisors have nothing to do with these issues
The board of supervisors weren't much older than me: they were drinkers and pot smokers, AT THE TIME THOSE DOORS WERE FIRST INSTALLED
your telling me they don't make decisions?
i'm telling you your not old enough to know what the fuck which way is up
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
gwxud
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Date: May 22, 2018 08:18PM
Lessier Jr Wrote:
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> Weather it was a key or a button or a lever
Weather was not an issue.
And i'm not shooting down every response!
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> Weather it was a key or a button or a lever
Weather was not an issue.
And i'm not shooting down every response!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
cwtkp
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Date: May 22, 2018 08:19PM
the law at the time the sliders were installed does make a difference
it's kinda like a retro-active law
just because building code changes doesn't mean every building needs to meet new codes. once they're built ...
it's kinda like a retro-active law
just because building code changes doesn't mean every building needs to meet new codes. once they're built ...
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
6tne7
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Date: May 22, 2018 08:21PM
Tmbnv Wrote:
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> With changes in FCPS spending priorities there is
> probably only one janitor on duty at that time and
> he can't be everywhere.
fuck you. there's more cars than students at those schools
when school's out for summer? there's more cars parked at those schools than the damn grocery store!!
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> With changes in FCPS spending priorities there is
> probably only one janitor on duty at that time and
> he can't be everywhere.
fuck you. there's more cars than students at those schools
when school's out for summer? there's more cars parked at those schools than the damn grocery store!!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
g3kxk
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:22PM
6tne7 Wrote:
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> Tmbnv Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > With changes in FCPS spending priorities there
> is
> > probably only one janitor on duty at that time
> and
> > he can't be everywhere.
>
>
> fuck you. there's more cars than students at
> those schools
>
> when school's out for summer? there's more cars
> parked at those schools than the damn grocery
> store!!
i told you carpet was a bad idea!
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> Tmbnv Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > With changes in FCPS spending priorities there
> is
> > probably only one janitor on duty at that time
> and
> > he can't be everywhere.
>
>
> fuck you. there's more cars than students at
> those schools
>
> when school's out for summer? there's more cars
> parked at those schools than the damn grocery
> store!!
i told you carpet was a bad idea!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
kcjpe
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Date: May 22, 2018 08:22PM
g3kxk Wrote:
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> 6tne7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tmbnv Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > With changes in FCPS spending priorities
> there
> > is
> > > probably only one janitor on duty at that
> time
> > and
> > > he can't be everywhere.
> >
> >
> > fuck you. there's more cars than students at
> > those schools
> >
> > when school's out for summer? there's more
> cars
> > parked at those schools than the damn grocery
> > store!!
>
> i told you carpet was a bad idea!
they have to be their every day to delete the junk mail! otherwise when they come back for the new season their teacher PCs would explode!
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> 6tne7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tmbnv Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > With changes in FCPS spending priorities
> there
> > is
> > > probably only one janitor on duty at that
> time
> > and
> > > he can't be everywhere.
> >
> >
> > fuck you. there's more cars than students at
> > those schools
> >
> > when school's out for summer? there's more
> cars
> > parked at those schools than the damn grocery
> > store!!
>
> i told you carpet was a bad idea!
they have to be their every day to delete the junk mail! otherwise when they come back for the new season their teacher PCs would explode!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
c4djm
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:28PM
call VSP Wrote:
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> The FCPD cannot perform a legit investigation,
> they are partial to FCPS. We need the Virginia
> state police to look into this.
OP already told you. The original design was that "responsible staff" had a janitor's key when necessary and that the person didn't allow any child anywhere near the door when it was moving. (a key was necessary).
The doors were not operated after students were dismissed: not during a class.
any teachers leaving the door in operating mode (not requiring a key - only a button) would have been reprimanded, )or operating the door before a class was dismissed, which i simply feel sure they were told to do)
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> The FCPD cannot perform a legit investigation,
> they are partial to FCPS. We need the Virginia
> state police to look into this.
OP already told you. The original design was that "responsible staff" had a janitor's key when necessary and that the person didn't allow any child anywhere near the door when it was moving. (a key was necessary).
The doors were not operated after students were dismissed: not during a class.
any teachers leaving the door in operating mode (not requiring a key - only a button) would have been reprimanded, )or operating the door before a class was dismissed, which i simply feel sure they were told to do)
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
ugmpx
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Date: May 22, 2018 08:28PM
The doors were operated after students were dismissed: not during a class.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Legally Speaking
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Date: May 22, 2018 08:37PM
In complex litigation, if anyone were responsible it would be the Teacher herself. However due to (xxxxx) the parents enjoy the right to sue the County and the county would then have the "job" of finding the woman and recovering the awarded money.
Judges are not magicians and are NOT LEGALLY allowed to sign papers as if they are:
#2 the Judge could not award more money than the teacher would be able to be sued for. you cannot bleed a turnip.
#1 the limit for accidental death is $10k (for injury part only) to prevent awards for death leading to criminals targeting children for deaths
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
73h4j
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Date: May 22, 2018 08:40PM
i'm from the old school thinking that accidents are not crimes, they are just accidents - possible grounds for reprimand or training
it's assumed an accident if there is nothing to gain (if the award is a maximum of $10k, that's assumed nothing)
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i don't know what they were doing (safe or unsafe): no news article is going to "enlighten me" on the matter, i'm sure
it's assumed an accident if there is nothing to gain (if the award is a maximum of $10k, that's assumed nothing)
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i don't know what they were doing (safe or unsafe): no news article is going to "enlighten me" on the matter, i'm sure
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
cwxu6
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:44PM
Oh yea we put in a missle sensor system to make sure your fingers don't get pinched!
You got the most modern convenient door available you already - if you think it's going to know when your walking toward it you've been watching too much TV!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
ymehy
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Date: May 22, 2018 08:46PM
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
tnwyj
()
Date: May 22, 2018 08:49PM
if the kid were living and (legally deserve) large monetary award: there might be a multi-million dollar suit. it can cost that much to live a comfortable life while disabled for one's whole lifetime.
unfortunately, that's not so.
unfortunately, that's not so.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Trollsup
()
Date: May 22, 2018 09:03PM
Lessier Jr Wrote:
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> Weather it was a key or a button or a lever the
> fact remains that this kids head was crushed due
> to criminal negligence. The county is going to
> lose a shit load of cash and the responsible adult
> will face a civil suit as well as a possible
> criminal charge. All the wealth that the
> "responsible" adult has gained will be taken at
> the very least.
That’s not true. Or, you don’t know that. Considering children’s lack of respect for authority, it could have everything to do with a defiant, willful child. But I don’t know that either. Which is my point, troll.
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> Weather it was a key or a button or a lever the
> fact remains that this kids head was crushed due
> to criminal negligence. The county is going to
> lose a shit load of cash and the responsible adult
> will face a civil suit as well as a possible
> criminal charge. All the wealth that the
> "responsible" adult has gained will be taken at
> the very least.
That’s not true. Or, you don’t know that. Considering children’s lack of respect for authority, it could have everything to do with a defiant, willful child. But I don’t know that either. Which is my point, troll.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
tim wockniac
()
Date: May 22, 2018 09:49PM
tim wockniac Wrote:
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> > i've seen one and been warned of them during
> operation (to stand clear), being operated by a
> teacher not a janitor i should add
>
> me too. i asked why i should stand back and the
> responsible person said "because it can crush
> you". i said: "are you crazy if it can crush me
> why is it in a school?". the educated person
> didn't answer. i believe i said "then it
> shouldn't have a motor it should just slide". the
> educated person answered, "do you see the size of
> the door? how can it slide?"
>
> decades later i can answer: you lazy fucks -
> sliding doors are easy get to work
actually the class was dismissed as i approached a teacher operating a accordian door in the gym and i was taking a short-cut "normally open". the teacher had only just put the key in as i approached.
there were like 30 FEET clear on a slow moving door and she hadn't even pressed the button yet when she asked me to stop. i could have turtled and still made it - or ran, but she'd have neither.
but the teacher, teaching me a lesson stopped me and answered my eventual questions of why. (seen above, minus the according part she knew of)
i have to guess she was educating me, as a few teachers were likely to do.
she also made me go the long way. going the long way for a kid is like forEVER!
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> > i've seen one and been warned of them during
> operation (to stand clear), being operated by a
> teacher not a janitor i should add
>
> me too. i asked why i should stand back and the
> responsible person said "because it can crush
> you". i said: "are you crazy if it can crush me
> why is it in a school?". the educated person
> didn't answer. i believe i said "then it
> shouldn't have a motor it should just slide". the
> educated person answered, "do you see the size of
> the door? how can it slide?"
>
> decades later i can answer: you lazy fucks -
> sliding doors are easy get to work
actually the class was dismissed as i approached a teacher operating a accordian door in the gym and i was taking a short-cut "normally open". the teacher had only just put the key in as i approached.
there were like 30 FEET clear on a slow moving door and she hadn't even pressed the button yet when she asked me to stop. i could have turtled and still made it - or ran, but she'd have neither.
but the teacher, teaching me a lesson stopped me and answered my eventual questions of why. (seen above, minus the according part she knew of)
i have to guess she was educating me, as a few teachers were likely to do.
she also made me go the long way. going the long way for a kid is like forEVER!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
tim wockniac
()
Date: May 22, 2018 09:51PM
she answer my questions as the door closed slow as a turtle in front of us
perhaps she was educating me, perhaps seeking a way to kill the boredom of watching the door close?!
perhaps she was educating me, perhaps seeking a way to kill the boredom of watching the door close?!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Arbitration
()
Date: May 22, 2018 11:27PM
Give the parents a $100 gift card to Taco Bell and call it even.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
This story is crushing
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Date: May 23, 2018 07:48PM
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
old jim
()
Date: May 24, 2018 05:03AM
Does anyone know the name of the teacher or staff member that did the actual killing?
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Anyone
()
Date: May 24, 2018 10:53AM
old jim Wrote:
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> Does anyone know the name of the teacher or staff
> member that did the actual killing?
NO.
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> Does anyone know the name of the teacher or staff
> member that did the actual killing?
NO.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
School employee
()
Date: May 24, 2018 03:14PM
Two county employees have been placed on suspension as of right now because of this incident.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
WDXVP
()
Date: May 24, 2018 11:24PM
The prohibition on using the room dividers is not limited to schools -- I discovered this the hard way this week at a non-school-related Fairfax facility.
And it means that normally where you had 2 or more rooms with the dividers, now you only have 1 big room. Which is a problem if you had planned to be doing unrelated things in those two rooms, and there are no other rooms to move to.
Stupid!
And it means that normally where you had 2 or more rooms with the dividers, now you only have 1 big room. Which is a problem if you had planned to be doing unrelated things in those two rooms, and there are no other rooms to move to.
Stupid!
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
mom of 2
()
Date: May 25, 2018 06:20AM
It would be nice to know the name of the killer teacher. Remember a couple years ago when that teacher at WT Woodson lit those kids on fire? They released her name right away.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
How can you stop a dumb
()
Date: May 25, 2018 12:49PM
mom of 2 Wrote:
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> It would be nice to know the name of the killer
> teacher. Remember a couple years ago when that
> teacher at WT Woodson lit those kids on fire? They
> released her name right away.
https://youtu.be/6_6x6iZcPuE
Polack from doing something stupid? You can't. Thank god this little reatard didn't make it to driving age, would've killed someone.
Attachments:
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> It would be nice to know the name of the killer
> teacher. Remember a couple years ago when that
> teacher at WT Woodson lit those kids on fire? They
> released her name right away.
https://youtu.be/6_6x6iZcPuE
Polack from doing something stupid? You can't. Thank god this little reatard didn't make it to driving age, would've killed someone.
Attachments:
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
Halloween trailer 2018
()
Date: May 25, 2018 04:18PM
Halloween 2018 trailer comes out tomorrow
Attachments:
Attachments:
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
janice1
()
Date: May 27, 2018 04:00PM
mom of 2 Wrote:
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> It would be nice to know the name of the killer
> teacher. Remember a couple years ago when that
> teacher at WT Woodson lit those kids on fire? They
> released her name right away.
It was a woman teacher so that narrows it down.
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> It would be nice to know the name of the killer
> teacher. Remember a couple years ago when that
> teacher at WT Woodson lit those kids on fire? They
> released her name right away.
It was a woman teacher so that narrows it down.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
county employee 22
()
Date: May 28, 2018 01:24PM
wchjv Wrote:
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> Creeper. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Janitors are too busy kid groping. Why they
> give
> > them their own closets in the back cornes of
> the
> > schools I will never understand...
>
> were there glass ceilings in Fairfax in the 80's
> or not?
>
> when i was in school it seemed the Head Janitors
> (there was only one, the 1980's one man job: a
> building) were ALL BLACK. if you spoke to them
> casually - perhaps asked a question - they knew
> their shit and were friendly - but also too busy
> to say much more
>
> it seemed whenever work was done that was not (a
> one man job), two white guys in a dually arrived
>
> there was no "hispanic lady with a job deciding
> who's hired to do criminally un-necessary labor in
> every school because ...." AS I SAID - it was all
> done by one person (not including cleaning, i
> didn't say cleaning - though the janitor did some
> of that i'm sure)
The guys in the duallies are not janitors, one is a licensed tradesman like a plumber, HVAC man, electrician and the other is usually a semi-skilled helper. Much to the dismay of the teachers those tradesmen get paid more than most of the teachers.
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> Creeper. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Janitors are too busy kid groping. Why they
> give
> > them their own closets in the back cornes of
> the
> > schools I will never understand...
>
> were there glass ceilings in Fairfax in the 80's
> or not?
>
> when i was in school it seemed the Head Janitors
> (there was only one, the 1980's one man job: a
> building) were ALL BLACK. if you spoke to them
> casually - perhaps asked a question - they knew
> their shit and were friendly - but also too busy
> to say much more
>
> it seemed whenever work was done that was not (a
> one man job), two white guys in a dually arrived
>
> there was no "hispanic lady with a job deciding
> who's hired to do criminally un-necessary labor in
> every school because ...." AS I SAID - it was all
> done by one person (not including cleaning, i
> didn't say cleaning - though the janitor did some
> of that i'm sure)
The guys in the duallies are not janitors, one is a licensed tradesman like a plumber, HVAC man, electrician and the other is usually a semi-skilled helper. Much to the dismay of the teachers those tradesmen get paid more than most of the teachers.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
teach this
()
Date: June 01, 2018 06:53AM
janice1 Wrote:
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> mom of 2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It would be nice to know the name of the killer
> > teacher. Remember a couple years ago when that
> > teacher at WT Woodson lit those kids on fire?
> They
> > released her name right away.
>
>
> It was a woman teacher so that narrows it down.
Not really, most teachers at the elementary schools are women.
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> mom of 2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It would be nice to know the name of the killer
> > teacher. Remember a couple years ago when that
> > teacher at WT Woodson lit those kids on fire?
> They
> > released her name right away.
>
>
> It was a woman teacher so that narrows it down.
Not really, most teachers at the elementary schools are women.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
crusher
()
Date: June 02, 2018 03:19AM
The county schools are now permitted to continue using the child crushing equipment.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Fairfax-County-Rules-for-Using-Motorized-Room-Panels-484333341.html
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Fairfax-County-Rules-for-Using-Motorized-Room-Panels-484333341.html
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
another teacher
()
Date: June 02, 2018 08:02AM
mom of 2 Wrote:
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> It would be nice to know the name of the killer
> teacher. Remember a couple years ago when that
> teacher at WT Woodson lit those kids on fire? They
> released her name right away.
The teacher responsible for the "accident" thinks it's funny.
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> It would be nice to know the name of the killer
> teacher. Remember a couple years ago when that
> teacher at WT Woodson lit those kids on fire? They
> released her name right away.
The teacher responsible for the "accident" thinks it's funny.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
moving wall
()
Date: December 21, 2018 04:33PM
Does anyone know if the child killing teacher is back at work?
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
school employee
()
Date: December 21, 2018 08:35PM
moving wall Wrote:
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> Does anyone know if the child killing teacher is
> back at work?
She teaches in Stafford county now.
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> Does anyone know if the child killing teacher is
> back at work?
She teaches in Stafford county now.
Re: Franconia Elementary School staff kills a 9 year old boy because of reckless negligence
Posted by:
22 guy
()
Date: December 22, 2018 09:41AM
What is the killer teachers name?