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Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Build the wall ()
Date: February 21, 2018 06:03PM

Copied and pasted from a wash post comment. Seems appropriate to post.

"Unaccompanied alien chiildren placed into Fairfax county by year (required by law to be educated)

FY 2014: 1373
FY 2015: 560
FY 2016: 1,321
FY 2017: 966

(Source HHS) https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/resource/unaccompanied-alien-children-released-to-sponsors-by-county

This is a spike from prior years, most of these are from Guatemala and El Salvador (MS13 ridden, and the reason for our rise in MS13 crime)

4220 new alien children place in FCPS at a cost to educate of $14,767 per student (source FCPS website)

Means illegal alien children (unaccompanied crossings without parents placed into foster care in our county) has increased our county education costs by:

$62, 316, 740 / year to educate these illegals placed her by HHS. Taxpayers have to foot the bill.

This is a conservative estimate. Since these kids are mostly ESL learners, the actual cost is much higher."

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Sharoom Bullover ()
Date: February 21, 2018 06:16PM

Shut up you fucking peasant!

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: ekmfm ()
Date: February 21, 2018 06:30PM

Unconscionable. Effectively legislation by fiat. This policy would never pass legislatively.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Queen Sharon B ()
Date: February 21, 2018 09:22PM

Fuck you taxpayers! MS-13 votes for me, so I'm gonna make sure they feel welcome here!

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: February 21, 2018 09:32PM

Unaccompanied minors are a drop in the bucket. If they all disappeared tomorrow, with vigorous monitoring we'd be lucky to save enough to cut the tax rate by one cent. More likely any savings would be frittered away. The tsunami is the combination of immigrants, special needs kids and others on F&RL. Throw in underperforming kids and you'd have 40% of the school population that is consuming close to 60% of the school resources. For this investment we are getting a damn poor return.

Federal law imposes some restrictions what we can and can't do with these groups. Even with these restrictions we ought to be able to reorganize how programs are offered so that we can receive better results and save a few dollars as well.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Build the wall ()
Date: February 22, 2018 10:20AM

Bill, we've always had special needs kids, etc. 4220 is not a drop in the bucket, look at the cost to educate each child. Most of these are probably special needs. They probably require instruction in spanish, costing us more than the average.

The post I copied says it amounts to $62,316,740. That would be their budget shortfall in Fairfax.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Pay Up Suckers ()
Date: February 22, 2018 10:34AM

Let us face the facts. You have it, they want it, and you will have to pay it.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: JTSBrown ()
Date: February 22, 2018 10:56AM

This entire area of FFX has gone down the sh-t can. Just look at who takes walks up and down your street, the DMV, bus stops, just to name a few. If you can, best to move out of this pool of dung.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Soul brother #1 ()
Date: February 22, 2018 12:21PM

The Republican playbook is to be afraid and fear the unknown. Rich people don't worry about tax hikes they don't pay taxes and get a huge cut if they do .Only poor white trash are concerned with taxes .

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: UBKPY ()
Date: February 22, 2018 12:43PM

Perspective: FCPS annual budget is $2.8 BILLION.

That is $2,800,000,000
To $62,316,740

You are being assholes over a 2% increase.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Ann Coulter fan ()
Date: February 22, 2018 01:38PM

Illegals ruin things for everyone else.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Landlord1 ()
Date: February 22, 2018 01:47PM

I love illegals. They are paying off 6 mortgages for my rental properties.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: CR ()
Date: February 22, 2018 02:25PM

"..$62,316,740

You are being assholes over a 2% increase."

You do realize that's more than the entire Sheriffs Office budget, which runs the courts and the entire jail as well at 500 employees? Too much to worry about?

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Pathetic... ()
Date: February 22, 2018 02:42PM

The douchebags have been told to post the same old tired ass bullshit. So they have.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: school board has hemorrhoids ()
Date: February 22, 2018 02:44PM

"You are being assholes over a 2% increase."

When the schools are spending that same amount more than what they have, and they refuse to cut spending, then yes, I will be a hemorrhoid to the idiots on the school board who are too concerned with having enough money to spread their liberal social justice agendas that they refuse to focus on education needs, or security to protect the students.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: H9MXF ()
Date: February 22, 2018 02:47PM

CR Wrote:
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> "..$62,316,740
>
> You are being assholes over a 2% increase."
>
> You do realize that's more than the entire
> Sheriffs Office budget, which runs the courts and
> the entire jail as well at 500 employees? Too
> much to worry about?

1. No, it isn't. They are budgeted for $70.8 million.
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/budget/sites/budget/files/assets/documents/fy2019/advertised/overview/where-it-goes.pdf

2. No, still no worries. Because I realize they aren't going to get rid of Sheriffs to pay for it.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: CR ()
Date: February 22, 2018 03:10PM

Hey Idiot, $62,316,740 is more than $50.7mil. Its not 70.8 but 50.8. May want to take another look at your link.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: 6FXCH ()
Date: February 22, 2018 04:32PM

CR Wrote:
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> Hey Idiot, $62,316,740 is more than $50.7mil. Its
> not 70.8 but 50.8. May want to take another look
> at your link.

Nope. I'm a step ahead of you.
I knew one of your dumbasses wouldn't look carefully.
The Sheriff's budget is in two categories.
So ... who's the idiot?
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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: February 22, 2018 06:57PM

@Build the wall-We've had Special Needs kids in the County. We've had ESL kids in the County. We have had underperforming kids in the County. We have had poor families in the County, and yes we've even had illegals in the County. What is relatively new to an area that was traditionally known as a middle class bedroom community for government workers is having 29% of the student body population on free & reduced lunch, 14% receiving special ed services and 29% receiving language services (FCPS supplied numbers). Even if you assume considerable overlap between these groups, and if you add in kids who don't fall within those groups but who are underperforming, it is reasonable to assume that we are looking at 40% of the student population of over 180,000 students falling into one or more of those four catagories. We are heading full speed into a demographic disaster, the quality of education our kids are getting is declining, the status of Fairfax County Schools is declining, and you are worried about 4,000 students.

Unaccompanied minors is a divisive issue. You want to fight under that banner in this area, the Karen Keyes Gamarras will win. Improving educational quality and getting our money's worth from our educational dollars is a uniting issue.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: PGM8 ()
Date: February 23, 2018 04:08PM

I am sick of paying for all these illegal aliens. Our schools need so many resources because of them. It is time to centralize them into a few facilities and consolidate resources. So much money could be saved.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Mouse-brains ()
Date: February 23, 2018 04:19PM

Save more money! Kick out all the athletes and whitey GT kids.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Cheap short cut labor ()
Date: February 23, 2018 04:24PM

Illegal aliens ruin everything around them.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Skinheads pukes just suck ()
Date: February 23, 2018 04:27PM

Cheap short cut labor Wrote:
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> Illegal aliens ruin everything around them.

No, they do great work for reasonable prices. So very different from you asshole native dickheads!

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: TTP7 ()
Date: February 23, 2018 05:19PM

I couldn’t agree more so much money could be saved if the ESL students would consolidate. There is no reason to provide this at every single school!

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Queen Sharon B ()
Date: February 23, 2018 05:42PM

Illegals, rapists, thieves, jihadists - these are my favorite constituents, and I will do ANYTHING to hold onto their votes!

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: 44mbm ()
Date: February 23, 2018 11:05PM


OFF-TOPIC

THIS IS FAIRFAX AREA TOPICS

NEXT TIME POST IT IN "OFF TOPIC"


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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: No Mas Shitholes ()
Date: February 24, 2018 07:33AM

Cut the teachers salaries in half.

Get rid of all the welfare immigrants - includes the Arabs, Indians, pakis, ans , Spanish and Africans that are trying to beat the system

They are a drain. Free lunches, more security, more eel teachers, disciplinary and truancy problems. Over crowding. This list goes on

They are bringing shitholism to our great county.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Wizard ()
Date: February 24, 2018 08:36AM

They also mean more work for admin staff, educators, law enforcement, Anitas, and South American food trucks.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Tax man ()
Date: February 24, 2018 10:20AM

Whether legal or illegal, immigrants pay all the same taxes that the rest of us do. Oh I know, hate groups try to deny the fact, but like Trump, they are all just lying to you, knowing that your type will swallow it all, hook, line, and sinker.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Brad8 ()
Date: February 24, 2018 11:21AM

What they pay in taxes is not close to what they receive at our expense. I’m tired of paying for them

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Real world ()
Date: February 24, 2018 12:22PM

You're right, it's much much more. Even illegals create much more in GDP than what they cost in social services. Downscale natives are a different story.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Back that shit up ()
Date: February 24, 2018 12:27PM

Real world Wrote:
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> You're right, it's much much more. Even illegals
> create much more in GDP than what they cost in
> social services. Downscale natives are a different
> story.


Back it up or you're simply pulling shit ou of your ass.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: ILLEGALS AVOID TAXES ()
Date: February 24, 2018 12:38PM

Illegals pay taxes?

BULLSHIT !!!!!

Free healthcare
Education
Welfare Leeches
Cell Phones
Free Dental
Contraception

Shall I go on????

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Lay-Z-Boy ()
Date: February 24, 2018 12:39PM

So you admit to not knowing the first thing about it. Nice.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: county property owner ()
Date: February 24, 2018 12:39PM

If you guys hate undocumented Americans so much why not insist that the county police and justice system get rid of them? We pay taxes out the ass for the police and sheriffs departments so why not make them enforce the law?

You know why they don't enforce the law? It's because we need these undocumented Americans because they are very important to our local economy. Everyone understands this except for severely ignorant people.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Abortions Housing ()
Date: February 24, 2018 12:39PM

FREE ABORTIONS
FREE FOOD
FREE HOUSING
CASH

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Welcome, assfuck ()
Date: February 24, 2018 12:46PM

ILLEGALS AVOID TAXES Wrote:
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> Illegals pay taxes?
>
> BULLSHIT !!!!!
>
> Free healthcare
> Education
> Welfare Leeches
> Cell Phones
> Free Dental
> Contraception
>
> Shall I go on????

You should go on to learn something, but you won't. In actuality, illegals try to fly under the radar. This means avoiding the very sorts of programs you suggest here. Not a surprise that someone like you would fuck the whole thing up though.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: catholic school teacher ()
Date: February 24, 2018 01:09PM

Most illegals work and work harder than most Americans. They consume goods which creates jobs and they pay sales taxes on those goods. Their children grow up to be tax paying citizens in most cases and they return any money they cost us ten fold or more. They are also paying rent which is paying off millions of American mortgages.
Trump's ignorant influence may well cause a few more illegals to get deported but the impact will be quite minor. Whatever happens we know that crybaby conservatives will bitch and complain about illegals till the day they die with essentially zero impact.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: lies easily debunked ()
Date: February 24, 2018 01:20PM

You're not a Catholic school teacher. Stop lying with the sockpuppets, troll.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Tuba Lips ()
Date: February 24, 2018 01:24PM

catholic school teacher Wrote:
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> Most illegals work and work harder than most
> Americans. They consume goods which creates jobs
> and they pay sales taxes on those goods. Their
> children grow up to be tax paying citizens in most
> cases and they return any money they cost us ten
> fold or more. They are also paying rent which is
> paying off millions of American mortgages.
> Trump's ignorant influence may well cause a few
> more illegals to get deported but the impact will
> be quite minor. Whatever happens we know that
> crybaby conservatives will bitch and complain
> about illegals till the day they die with
> essentially zero impact.


I think you are right but I don't want illegals living near me. They are hell on available street parking.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Moving on up ()
Date: February 24, 2018 01:30PM

Who relies on street parking?

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: flt9h ()
Date: February 24, 2018 04:31PM

UBKPY Wrote:
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> Perspective: FCPS annual budget is $2.8 BILLION.
>
> That is $2,800,000,000
> To $62,316,740
>
> You are being assholes over a 2% increase.

Yet we have major pushes to eliminate sports and activities which are a whopping 1% of the budget.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: PJG ()
Date: February 24, 2018 07:11PM

My school is overcrowded yet the ESL students have small classes. Why don’t all the students get small sized classrooms?

I never thought about centralizing ESL students but if it is good enough for the gifted, it makes a whole lot of sense! So much money could be saved.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Illegals rule ()
Date: February 25, 2018 12:33AM

Illegal worshippers :

We have laws. If they are illegal - that means they broke the law

There are millions of people who have LEGALLY APPLIED

NOW GET THE HELL BACK AND APPLY LIKE THE REST

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: fisty. ()
Date: February 25, 2018 06:44AM

Illegals rule Wrote:
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> Illegal worshippers :
>
> We have laws. If they are illegal - that means
> they broke the law
>
> There are millions of people who have LEGALLY
> APPLIED
>
> NOW GET THE HELL BACK AND APPLY LIKE THE REST


Not going to happen dumbass. We like our illegals illegal so we can make money off them. They have made me very wealthy.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Morons abound ()
Date: February 25, 2018 08:27PM

JTSBrown Wrote:
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> This entire area of FFX has gone down the sh-t
> can. Just look at who takes walks up and down your
> street, the DMV, bus stops, just to name a few. If
> you can, best to move out of this pool of dung.

You mean, white people?

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: Economist ()
Date: February 25, 2018 11:19PM

catholic school teacher Wrote:
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> Most illegals work and work harder than most
> Americans. They consume goods which creates jobs
> and they pay sales taxes on those goods. Their
> children grow up to be tax paying citizens in most
> cases and they return any money they cost us ten
> fold or more. They are also paying rent which is
> paying off millions of American mortgages.
> Trump's ignorant influence may well cause a few
> more illegals to get deported but the impact will
> be quite minor. Whatever happens we know that
> crybaby conservatives will bitch and complain
> about illegals till the day they die with
> essentially zero impact.

You should give up posting for Lent.

Illegals work in the underground economy, for cash. They avoid paying payroll and income taxes, both state and federal. The money they earn is exported to other countries, which is a net loss to our American economy, as dollars illegals earn in Fairfax are spent to buy goods and services in El Salvador, pumping up the economy of El Salvador.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: real economist ()
Date: March 02, 2018 05:12PM

Economist Wrote:
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> catholic school teacher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Most illegals work and work harder than most
> > Americans. They consume goods which creates
> jobs
> > and they pay sales taxes on those goods. Their
> > children grow up to be tax paying citizens in
> most
> > cases and they return any money they cost us
> ten
> > fold or more. They are also paying rent which
> is
> > paying off millions of American mortgages.
> > Trump's ignorant influence may well cause a few
> > more illegals to get deported but the impact
> will
> > be quite minor. Whatever happens we know that
> > crybaby conservatives will bitch and complain
> > about illegals till the day they die with
> > essentially zero impact.
>
> You should give up posting for Lent.
>
> Illegals work in the underground economy, for
> cash. They avoid paying payroll and income taxes,
> both state and federal. The money they earn is
> exported to other countries, which is a net loss
> to our American economy, as dollars illegals earn
> in Fairfax are spent to buy goods and services in
> El Salvador, pumping up the economy of El
> Salvador.


Do you ever grow tired of missing the point and being an ignorant fuck?

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: A flipper ()
Date: March 02, 2018 05:23PM

I pay cash to illegals to do most of the work when I flip houses. I have made a fortune because of these wonderful people. I love them!

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: truth comes out.. ()
Date: March 03, 2018 07:16AM

A flipper Wrote:
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> I pay cash to illegals to do most of the work when
> I flip houses. I have made a fortune because of
> these wonderful people. I love them!


That is the real reason we have so many illegals. Americans (mostly white people) lure them here with cash. These guys go home with a pocket full of cash every day because we give it to them.
If you people want to blame someone for this situation look in a fucking mirror and you will see the root cause of the trouble.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: We are blessed ()
Date: March 03, 2018 11:00AM

We are fortunate here in the USA to have a nearby pool of healthy young and energetic workers to draw on. Our friends in China, Japan, Korea, and Europe do not have such a resource. This makes us far more economically resilient than they are.

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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: ucu9k ()
Date: March 03, 2018 07:53PM


NO ONE BELIEVES YOUR POSTS GERRYMANDERER2

NO ONE BELIEVES WASHINGTON POST EITHER: they hire illegals


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Re: Illegals cause Fairfax County tax hike
Posted by: FFXU roadside assistance ()
Date: March 03, 2018 08:57PM

ucu9k Wrote:
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>


> NO ONE BELIEVES YOUR POSTS GERRYMANDERER2
>
> NO ONE BELIEVES WASHINGTON POST EITHER: they hire
> illegals
>



You are being trolled really hard. Be careful please.

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