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Why are libertarians so weird?
Posted by: Analmynous ()
Date: January 17, 2018 01:13PM

Why are "most" libertarians so weird, does anyone else get that vibe from them? Explain below...

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Re: Why are libertarians so weird?
Posted by: JYUKK ()
Date: January 17, 2018 02:02PM

Analmynous Wrote:
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> Why are "most" libertarians so weird, does anyone
> else get that vibe from them? Explain below...

Because they are intelligent enough to know Trump and republicans are full of shit.
But not quite smart enough to realize their philosophy is also full of shit.

See Ayn Rand: Spends life writing and speaking against government, but when old and dying takes Social Security and Medicare.

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Re: Why are libertarians so weird?
Posted by: Liberals are smart retards ()
Date: January 17, 2018 02:18PM

JYUKK Wrote:
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> Analmynous Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why are "most" libertarians so weird, does
> anyone
> > else get that vibe from them? Explain below...
>
> Because they are intelligent enough to know Trump
> and republicans are full of shit.
> But not quite smart enough to realize their
> philosophy is also full of shit.
>
> See Ayn Rand: Spends life writing and speaking
> against government, but when old and dying takes
> Social Security and Medicare.


^^^^ partisan liberal nut response. See plight of niggers, Venezuela or current poverty rate in California for true affect of 'smart' liberal policies in the real world.

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Re: Why are libertarians so weird?
Posted by: you're a good little sheep ()
Date: January 17, 2018 02:47PM

JYUKK Wrote:
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> Analmynous Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why are "most" libertarians so weird, does
> anyone
> > else get that vibe from them? Explain below...
>
> Because they are intelligent enough to know Trump
> and republicans are full of shit.
> But not quite smart enough to realize their
> philosophy is also full of shit.
>
> See Ayn Rand: Spends life writing and speaking
> against government, but when old and dying takes
> Social Security and Medicare.

I think Social Security is a fucking Ponzi scheme and fucking bullshit. It's for those unwise or incapable enough to plan for their own future.

But you bet your bippy, I'll take every check they send me and put it right into my account. I'll consider it restitution for the money they've been plundering from me for years. When the welfare state legally steals your money in the first place, it is your moral obligation to get what little you can get back.

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Re: Why are libertarians so weird?
Posted by: WeedNoThankYou, Different types ()
Date: January 17, 2018 03:59PM

Libertarians while extremely idealistic and I do agree with many of their ideals, cannot be functionally pragmatic in today's society on a lot of issues.
Education and winning others over to the Libertarian point of view is necessary for any chance of having L Candidates win a marginal number of political offices.

If a state were to succeed and form its' own nation, then Libertarianism could work, but there is too much standing in the way for it to work nationwide or even within a single locale today.

Their are different types of Libertarians. I for one, would not use drugs which are currently illegal if they were legalized.

I also, draw the line at abortion. Ron Paul is correct. The most defenseless creature lives in the womb of a pregnant woman. Therefore the most terrible assault is one directed toward that creature.

About foreign policy, I believe in intervening when commerce is disrupted.
Policing the world, is too expensive.

Empowering nations which are being destroyed or oppressed OK, but mostly they should learn to fend for themselves.

Right now Russia and China are slowly raising their actions of imperialism, in small steps. Russia on land, with neighboring countries and China too, but mostly at sea with island building and weaponizing their fishing vessels.

Their encroachment and aggression towards commercial ships and US military ships is essentially an act of War, which we are tip toeing around and treating very carefully.

The conventional US first doctrine of having an enormous military and Naval presence is 2nd to a policy of a non-intervention, however the former may be the only viable choice in our age to deter aggression from nations whose aim is to expand by way of force.

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Re: Why are libertarians so weird?
Posted by: Opposing.Viewer.Of.Things ()
Date: January 17, 2018 05:38PM

you're a good little sheep Wrote:
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> JYUKK Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Analmynous Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why are "most" libertarians so weird, does
> > anyone
> > > else get that vibe from them? Explain
> below...
> >
> > Because they are intelligent enough to know
> Trump
> > and republicans are full of shit.
> > But not quite smart enough to realize their
> > philosophy is also full of shit.
> >
> > See Ayn Rand: Spends life writing and speaking
> > against government, but when old and dying
> takes
> > Social Security and Medicare.
>
> I think Social Security is a fucking Ponzi scheme
> and fucking bullshit. It's for those unwise or
> incapable enough to plan for their own future.
>
> But you bet your bippy, I'll take every check they
> send me and put it right into my account. I'll
> consider it restitution for the money they've been
> plundering from me for years. When the welfare
> state legally steals your money in the first
> place, it is your moral obligation to get what
> little you can get back.

I have never understood why we are all forced to pay into social security. It's my money and I earned it. We should have the option to either choose social security...or another investment firm. Social security is just a jobs initiative for the Feds...my money paid into social security would perform infinitely better elsewhere. And the worst part is, it won't even be there in 30 years when I "need" it.

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Re: Why are libertarians so weird?
Posted by: Says the Libertarian ()
Date: January 17, 2018 07:18PM

Opposing.Viewer.Of.Things Wrote:
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> I have never understood why we are all forced to
> pay into social security. It's my money and I
> earned it. We should have the option to either
> choose social security...or another investment
> firm. Social security is just a jobs initiative
> for the Feds...my money paid into social security
> would perform infinitely better elsewhere. And the
> worst part is, it won't even be there in 30 years
> when I "need" it.

For that matter, why do we pay taxes? Why not build our own private roads, have private police and fire, etc.?

Oh, wait, because that's stupid. As is your position. Sorry...

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Re: Why are libertarians so weird?
Posted by: problem with your analogy ()
Date: January 17, 2018 07:31PM

Says the Libertarian Wrote:
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> Opposing.Viewer.Of.Things Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have never understood why we are all forced
> to
> > pay into social security. It's my money and I
> > earned it. We should have the option to either
> > choose social security...or another investment
> > firm. Social security is just a jobs initiative
> > for the Feds...my money paid into social
> security
> > would perform infinitely better elsewhere. And
> the
> > worst part is, it won't even be there in 30
> years
> > when I "need" it.
>
> For that matter, why do we pay taxes? Why not
> build our own private roads, have private police
> and fire, etc.?
>
> Oh, wait, because that's stupid. As is your
> position. Sorry...

The vast majority use roads, police or fire services. Only poor planners need Social Security.

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Re: Why are libertarians so weird?
Posted by: Says the Libertarian ()
Date: January 17, 2018 07:39PM

problem with your analogy Wrote:
> The vast majority use roads, police or fire
> services. Only poor planners need Social Security.

Ah, right. I forget how Libertarians are pretty well exclusively upper-middle class white folks who think they got there entirely because of hard work, with no benefits from where they started or other privilege.

Entitled asshole. Plonk.

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