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Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
Save the earth from libs
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Date: December 30, 2017 07:02PM
Burn baby burn , disco inferno
Coal-fired power plants are king again as sub-zero temperatures sent demand for heating and electricity soaring on the East Coast Friday in the largest energy market in the nation.
Coal outpaced both natural gas and nuclear power plants in the PJM market, which extends from the Midwest to Washington, according to real-time updates provided by the grid operator PJM Interconnection.
Coal provided nearly 20,000 megawatts more electricity throughout the day Friday than its primary rival natural gas and over 10,000 megawatts more than nuclear power plants.
One megawatt of electricity can provide 750-1,200 homes with power, depending on how much demand there is on the system, according to experts.
The PJM breakdown looked like this: Coal at 45,842 MW; nuclear power at 35,514; and natural gas at 25,927. Renewables provided 3,086 MW. Coal, nuclear and natural gas are the three dominant sources of 24-hour power on the grid.
The surge in coal electricity production is expected to remain high going into next year because of a bump in the price of natural gas, which has become the dominant source of electricity in recent years.
Coal-fired power plants are king again as sub-zero temperatures sent demand for heating and electricity soaring on the East Coast Friday in the largest energy market in the nation.
Coal outpaced both natural gas and nuclear power plants in the PJM market, which extends from the Midwest to Washington, according to real-time updates provided by the grid operator PJM Interconnection.
Coal provided nearly 20,000 megawatts more electricity throughout the day Friday than its primary rival natural gas and over 10,000 megawatts more than nuclear power plants.
One megawatt of electricity can provide 750-1,200 homes with power, depending on how much demand there is on the system, according to experts.
The PJM breakdown looked like this: Coal at 45,842 MW; nuclear power at 35,514; and natural gas at 25,927. Renewables provided 3,086 MW. Coal, nuclear and natural gas are the three dominant sources of 24-hour power on the grid.
The surge in coal electricity production is expected to remain high going into next year because of a bump in the price of natural gas, which has become the dominant source of electricity in recent years.
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
jimboblarry
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Date: December 30, 2017 07:12PM
That"s the beauty of having options to choose from.
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
True the Vote!
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Date: December 30, 2017 07:22PM
Nice shot, Stoke it, It's cold outside!
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
EcoNut
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Date: December 30, 2017 08:14PM
Today's coal-fired plants are almost as clean as natural gas and much much much cheaper to operate. Coal plants aren't what they used to be. The cost/benefit ration is tipped so far to the benefit side, it's a no brainer. Bring back coal!
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
And yet...
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Date: December 30, 2017 09:09PM
EcoNut Wrote:
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> Today's coal-fired plants are almost as clean as
> natural gas and much much much cheaper to operate.
> Coal plants aren't what they used to be. The
> cost/benefit ration is tipped so far to the
> benefit side, it's a no brainer. Bring back coal!
...and yet, because they're not interested in profits, the electricity producers refuse to use it? C'mon. You can't be that stupid.
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> Today's coal-fired plants are almost as clean as
> natural gas and much much much cheaper to operate.
> Coal plants aren't what they used to be. The
> cost/benefit ration is tipped so far to the
> benefit side, it's a no brainer. Bring back coal!
...and yet, because they're not interested in profits, the electricity producers refuse to use it? C'mon. You can't be that stupid.
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
Big Coal
()
Date: December 30, 2017 09:11PM
And yet... Wrote:
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> EcoNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Today's coal-fired plants are almost as clean
> as
> > natural gas and much much much cheaper to
> operate.
> > Coal plants aren't what they used to be. The
> > cost/benefit ration is tipped so far to the
> > benefit side, it's a no brainer. Bring back
> coal!
>
> ...and yet, because they're not interested in
> profits, the electricity producers refuse to use
> it? C'mon. You can't be that stupid.
Of course they are interested in profits, you retard. So what if using coal is good for the consumers and the producers? I call that a win-win.
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> EcoNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Today's coal-fired plants are almost as clean
> as
> > natural gas and much much much cheaper to
> operate.
> > Coal plants aren't what they used to be. The
> > cost/benefit ration is tipped so far to the
> > benefit side, it's a no brainer. Bring back
> coal!
>
> ...and yet, because they're not interested in
> profits, the electricity producers refuse to use
> it? C'mon. You can't be that stupid.
Of course they are interested in profits, you retard. So what if using coal is good for the consumers and the producers? I call that a win-win.
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
Quit Trolling
()
Date: December 31, 2017 12:50AM
Big Coal Wrote:
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> And yet... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > EcoNut Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Today's coal-fired plants are almost as clean
> > as
> > > natural gas and much much much cheaper to
> > operate.
> > > Coal plants aren't what they used to be. The
> > > cost/benefit ration is tipped so far to the
> > > benefit side, it's a no brainer. Bring back
> > coal!
> >
> > ...and yet, because they're not interested in
> > profits, the electricity producers refuse to
> use
> > it? C'mon. You can't be that stupid.
>
> Of course they are interested in profits, you
> retard. So what if using coal is good for the
> consumers and the producers? I call that a
> win-win.
The environment and future generations lose. As well as elderly and young children, people with lun conditions.
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> And yet... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > EcoNut Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Today's coal-fired plants are almost as clean
> > as
> > > natural gas and much much much cheaper to
> > operate.
> > > Coal plants aren't what they used to be. The
> > > cost/benefit ration is tipped so far to the
> > > benefit side, it's a no brainer. Bring back
> > coal!
> >
> > ...and yet, because they're not interested in
> > profits, the electricity producers refuse to
> use
> > it? C'mon. You can't be that stupid.
>
> Of course they are interested in profits, you
> retard. So what if using coal is good for the
> consumers and the producers? I call that a
> win-win.
The environment and future generations lose. As well as elderly and young children, people with lun conditions.
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Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
CCLWR
()
Date: December 31, 2017 12:57AM
Big Coal Wrote:
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> And yet... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > EcoNut Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Today's coal-fired plants are almost as clean
> > as
> > > natural gas and much much much cheaper to
> > operate.
> > > Coal plants aren't what they used to be. The
> > > cost/benefit ration is tipped so far to the
> > > benefit side, it's a no brainer. Bring back
> > coal!
> >
> > ...and yet, because they're not interested in
> > profits, the electricity producers refuse to
> use
> > it? C'mon. You can't be that stupid.
>
> Of course they are interested in profits, you
> retard. So what if using coal is good for the
> consumers and the producers? I call that a
> win-win.
Where do you live, ‘winner’?
Dominion can bury their coal ash in your backyard.
Dominion says burying coal ash will be cheaper, safer, faster than alternatives
http://www.insidenova.com/news/politics/prince_william/dominion-says-burying-coal-ash-will-be-cheaper-safer-faster/article_839de540-d6f8-11e7-a3ce-37e925fd162d.html
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> And yet... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > EcoNut Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Today's coal-fired plants are almost as clean
> > as
> > > natural gas and much much much cheaper to
> > operate.
> > > Coal plants aren't what they used to be. The
> > > cost/benefit ration is tipped so far to the
> > > benefit side, it's a no brainer. Bring back
> > coal!
> >
> > ...and yet, because they're not interested in
> > profits, the electricity producers refuse to
> use
> > it? C'mon. You can't be that stupid.
>
> Of course they are interested in profits, you
> retard. So what if using coal is good for the
> consumers and the producers? I call that a
> win-win.
Where do you live, ‘winner’?
Dominion can bury their coal ash in your backyard.
Dominion says burying coal ash will be cheaper, safer, faster than alternatives
http://www.insidenova.com/news/politics/prince_william/dominion-says-burying-coal-ash-will-be-cheaper-safer-faster/article_839de540-d6f8-11e7-a3ce-37e925fd162d.html
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
I blame libs
()
Date: December 31, 2017 08:13AM
If libs would stop buying Prious and other electric cars, we could shut down some coal plants.
That little magic plug needs electricity for somewhere.
Electric cars = coal fired plants
That little magic plug needs electricity for somewhere.
Electric cars = coal fired plants
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
AlbertEinstein
()
Date: December 31, 2017 07:13PM
Save the earth from libs Wrote:
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> Burn baby burn , disco inferno
>
> Coal-fired power plants are king again as sub-zero
> temperatures sent demand for heating and
> electricity soaring on the East Coast Friday in
> the largest energy market in the nation.
>
> Coal outpaced both natural gas and nuclear power
> plants in the PJM market, which extends from the
> Midwest to Washington, according to real-time
> updates provided by the grid operator PJM
> Interconnection.
>
> Coal provided nearly 20,000 megawatts more
> electricity throughout the day Friday than its
> primary rival natural gas and over 10,000
> megawatts more than nuclear power plants.
>
> One megawatt of electricity can provide 750-1,200
> homes with power, depending on how much demand
> there is on the system, according to experts.
>
> The PJM breakdown looked like this: Coal at 45,842
> MW; nuclear power at 35,514; and natural gas at
> 25,927. Renewables provided 3,086 MW. Coal,
> nuclear and natural gas are the three dominant
> sources of 24-hour power on the grid.
>
> The surge in coal electricity production is
> expected to remain high going into next year
> because of a bump in the price of natural gas,
> which has become the dominant source of
> electricity in recent years.
Currently Dominion Power gets 18% of production from coal and 32% from natural gas. Expect the coal percentage to drop over the next 10 years because natural gas is much more profitable. Sorry Trump, coal is NEVER coming back.
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> Burn baby burn , disco inferno
>
> Coal-fired power plants are king again as sub-zero
> temperatures sent demand for heating and
> electricity soaring on the East Coast Friday in
> the largest energy market in the nation.
>
> Coal outpaced both natural gas and nuclear power
> plants in the PJM market, which extends from the
> Midwest to Washington, according to real-time
> updates provided by the grid operator PJM
> Interconnection.
>
> Coal provided nearly 20,000 megawatts more
> electricity throughout the day Friday than its
> primary rival natural gas and over 10,000
> megawatts more than nuclear power plants.
>
> One megawatt of electricity can provide 750-1,200
> homes with power, depending on how much demand
> there is on the system, according to experts.
>
> The PJM breakdown looked like this: Coal at 45,842
> MW; nuclear power at 35,514; and natural gas at
> 25,927. Renewables provided 3,086 MW. Coal,
> nuclear and natural gas are the three dominant
> sources of 24-hour power on the grid.
>
> The surge in coal electricity production is
> expected to remain high going into next year
> because of a bump in the price of natural gas,
> which has become the dominant source of
> electricity in recent years.
Currently Dominion Power gets 18% of production from coal and 32% from natural gas. Expect the coal percentage to drop over the next 10 years because natural gas is much more profitable. Sorry Trump, coal is NEVER coming back.
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
AlbertEinstein
()
Date: December 31, 2017 07:14PM
I blame libs Wrote:
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> If libs would stop buying Prious and other
> electric cars, we could shut down some coal
> plants.
>
> That little magic plug needs electricity for
> somewhere.
>
> Electric cars = coal fired plants
Hey here is a real genius.
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> If libs would stop buying Prious and other
> electric cars, we could shut down some coal
> plants.
>
> That little magic plug needs electricity for
> somewhere.
>
> Electric cars = coal fired plants
Hey here is a real genius.
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
And yet...
()
Date: December 31, 2017 11:43PM
Big Coal Wrote:
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> Of course they are interested in profits, you
> retard. So what if using coal is good for the
> consumers and the producers? I call that a
> win-win.
Wow. I really have to spell this out for you? If coal were so wonderful, the utilities would be using it more, not less. They're using it less. Ergo, it's not more profitable. The invisible hand and all that.
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> Of course they are interested in profits, you
> retard. So what if using coal is good for the
> consumers and the producers? I call that a
> win-win.
Wow. I really have to spell this out for you? If coal were so wonderful, the utilities would be using it more, not less. They're using it less. Ergo, it's not more profitable. The invisible hand and all that.
Re: Fire up those coal fired plants. It’s cold outside
Posted by:
Pc retards.
()
Date: December 31, 2017 11:47PM
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