Last night Summit Square Dr area of Oakton there was a stabbing. In a residential area, the Four Winds Complex. We have been "managed" by First or "Worst Residential" for many years.

I have fought with the board, and the property manager for years about crime increases and other issues. I am not pleased to be finding out that this stabbing happened last night, by a piece of stationary by my front door!

Gee almost 24 hours later=warp speed!
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Oakton Resident Bitter Wrote:
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> Last night Summit Square Dr area of Oakton there
> was a stabbing. In a residential area, the Four
> Winds Complex. We have been "managed" by First or
> "Worst Residential" for many years.
>
> I have fought with the board, and the property
> manager for years about crime increases and other
> issues. I am not pleased to be finding out that
> this stabbing happened last night, by a piece of
> stationary by my front door!

I believe you’ve made a mistake, OP. This is Fairfax Underground not the management company.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fairfax Underground is working with the management of several large apartment communities.

The stair removal and replacement project. Slumlord owners. Management that gets close to 400 a unit per month in condo fees. Section 8 housing close by. Property value drops, floods. Maintenance issues. Place sucks.

And no this is to warn others don't buy here! Don't rent either!

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Oakton Resident Bitter Wrote:
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> The stair removal and replacement project.
> Slumlord owners. Management that gets close to 400
> a unit per month in condo fees. Section 8 housing
> close by. Property value drops, floods.
> Maintenance issues. Place sucks.


Dude, it's a condo building.
Are you renting or owning?
If you own, then you're the 'slumlord owner'
If you rent, why do you care about property value drops?
Fucking shut up and move already.

This is why I bought my 15K square foot home on 17.5 acres in Great Falls.

...at least your HOA notifies you of crime right away and doesn't just ignore the problem but put out yet another notice of putting out trash too early.

I don't think I EVER got a notice from mine regarding crime- and I have been here +15 YEARS.

if you look at the crime maps/read the weekly reports FCPD puts out, it tells a different story.

Just because the neighborhood LOOKS safe does not mean it is. There are crime troubles even in communities with 600k+ homes.

I mean, it's mostly petty theft kids and junkies hopping cars for their next herion fix- but i'd like to know and it sucks I have to go hunting down reports.

> Dude, it's a condo building.
> Are you renting or owning?
> If you own, then you're the 'slumlord owner'
> If you rent, why do you care about property value
> drops?
> Fucking shut up and move already.

Condo owner only owns “air” within the walls of his unit.
Everything outside his door is Tenancy in Common and EVERYONE OWNS a share in that.
I used to live in a shithole in Cardinal Forest called Tivoli. Condo fees were managed by a company called “legum n Norman,” then this miserable lady named Cindy fired legum and started running it herself. This is when the property went to shit. I sold my 2bd 2 bath unit in 2002. Never looked back.
Tivoli was the neighborhood where all the west Springfield stoners would park to smoke marijuana.

Blacks Law bitches Wrote:
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> > Dude, it's a condo building.
> > Are you renting or owning?
> > If you own, then you're the 'slumlord owner'
> > If you rent, why do you care about property
> value
> > drops?
> > Fucking shut up and move already.
>
> Condo owner only owns “air” within the walls
> of his unit.
> Everything outside his door is Tenancy in Common
> and EVERYONE OWNS a share in that.

Cool story, bro.
Doesn't change the fact that he's the slumlord owner.

Whatever on the insults. If FCPD don't capture this thugs and 1st residential isn't fired im selling

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No ages or other descriptions. Hmmm. My guess domestic or drug deal gone bad.

Driving home today I say a negro teen riding a shitty bicycle in the dark on Blake. Time for me to move. Seriously.

how many times do i have to tell you?

do not answer any mail that wasn't served by a justice of the peace!

i had a friendly acquaintance who lived there - an actuary accountant. i bet he's moved out of there a few years back if not several ! (the women loved that guy - they were all angry at each other after talking to him as a group)

No arrest no new news nothing!!!!

wetwk Wrote:
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> i had a friendly acquaintance who lived there - an
> actuary accountant. i bet he's moved out of there
> a few years back if not several ! (the women
> loved that guy - they were all angry at each other
> after talking to him as a group)


Ha the accountant did move out but I believe they rent out their condo.

No updates these suspects are still on the loose and this is unacceptable for Oakton. This does not happen in our town without the police catching the criminals. And yet nothing from our board one we pay $350 a month for I am not sure what!

Blacks Law bitches Wrote:
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> > Dude, it's a condo building.
> > Are you renting or owning?
> > If you own, then you're the 'slumlord owner'
> > If you rent, why do you care about property
> value
> > drops?
> > Fucking shut up and move already.
>
> Condo owner only owns “air” within the walls
> of his unit.
> Everything outside his door is Tenancy in Common
> and EVERYONE OWNS a share in that.
> I used to live in a shithole in Cardinal Forest
> called Tivoli. Condo fees were managed by a
> company called “legum n Norman,” then this
> miserable lady named Cindy fired legum and started
> running it herself. This is when the property went
> to shit. I sold my 2bd 2 bath unit in 2002. Never
> looked back.
> Tivoli was the neighborhood where all the west
> Springfield stoners would park to smoke marijuana.

You vape big clouds duuuuude!
Let’s watch gay porn together and see who cums first from jerking off....
Doesn’t mean we are gay tho!
For reals

Oakton Resident Bitter Wrote:
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> No updates these suspects are still on the loose
> and this is unacceptable for Oakton. This does not
> happen in our town without the police catching the
> criminals. And yet nothing from our board one we
> pay $350 a month for I am not sure what!

Sounds like a waaaaahmbulance is needed

And you wouldn't be if some scumbags were loose in your neighborhood after such an event?

A stabbing is not a crime. A crime is committed with a gun.

And now there's a note today on the door about aggressive panhandlers. And still people with knives not in police custody. This is unacceptable and I will be at the next meeting. We pay too much to live in a crime ridden community!

Crime lurks the shadows of that building.

Diehard Liberal Wrote:
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> A stabbing is not a crime. A crime is committed
> with a gun.

nope. crimea means blood - or the money equivalent that can cause hemoraging

Oakton Resident Bitter Wrote:
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> And yet nothing from our board one we
> pay $350 a month for I am not sure what!

You're paying for ~25 years of deferred maintenance on the Summit Square apartments.

When Orion Residential converted Summit Square to Four Winds of Oakton, they spent all the money on lipstick on a pig-type upgrades to convince the suckers that they were buying a Lexus when they really were getting a rebadged and repainted Kia.

On top of that, Orion bought in at the absolute top of the market, which started tanking right before they started selling.

Since they controlled the condo association board, they ignored residents' complaints about the decrepit stairs, choosing instead to slap a coat of paint over the rust rather than, y'know, actually fix them.

It got so bad that some of the condo residents called in the county, which threatened to condemn the property unless the repairs were made. Since Orion still had 40 units of the original 366 they'd bought, even after six years, they settled for $600K and transferred control of the board to the unit owners in March 2012.

Unfortunately, the actual cost of the stair replacement project was $1.4 million, meaning a special assessment for the unit owners.

You're still paying for that project, and likely will for many, many years to come.

Bonus: The conversion was such a clusterfuck that eventually Dan Gumbiner, the president of Orion, moved into the complex from Illinois to try and keep the whole thing from completely blowing up. He was also president of the condo association when the county started making their condemnation noises.

Also, it looks like anyone who bought into Four Winds early got majorly shafted on price, with a lot of the units still valued at tens of thousands of dollars less than they were bought for over ten years ago.

Where are the police? No arrest. None.

fracturedfairfax Wrote:
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> Oakton Resident Bitter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And yet nothing from our board one we
> > pay $350 a month for I am not sure what!
>
> You're paying for ~25 years of deferred
> maintenance on the Summit Square apartments.
>
> When Orion Residential converted Summit Square to
> Four Winds of Oakton, they spent all the money on
> lipstick on a pig-type upgrades to convince the
> suckers that they were buying a Lexus when they
> really were getting a rebadged and repainted Kia.
>
> On top of that, Orion bought in at the absolute
> top of the market, which started tanking right
> before they started selling.
>
> Since they controlled the condo association board,
> they ignored residents' complaints about the
> decrepit stairs, choosing instead to slap a coat
> of paint over the rust rather than, y'know,
> actually fix them.
>
> It got so bad that some of the condo residents
> called in the county, which threatened to condemn
> the property unless the repairs were made. Since
> Orion still had 40 units of the original 366
> they'd bought, even after six years, they settled
> for $600K and transferred control of the board to
> the unit owners in March 2012.
>
> Unfortunately, the actual cost of the stair
> replacement project was $1.4 million, meaning a
> special assessment for the unit owners.
>
> You're still paying for that project, and likely
> will for many, many years to come.
>
> Bonus: The conversion was such a
> clusterfuck that eventually Dan Gumbiner, the
> president of Orion, moved into the complex from
> Illinois to try and keep the whole thing from
> completely blowing up. He was also president of
> the condo association when the county started
> making their condemnation noises.
>
> Also, it looks like anyone who bought into Four
> Winds early got majorly shafted on price, with a
> lot of the units still valued at tens of thousands
> of dollars less than they were bought for over ten
> years ago.

There's another side to that story.

The residents never complained of the stairs. They have no idea why orion is still in charge of their property.

The Orion property management is run by mexicans: who forced the sale of $1.4 Million for a stair case WITHOUT A VOTE. (this explains why the residents have no idea what is going on - because they are being ripped off)

We all know a staircase costs several hundred (wood) to several thousand (iron): NO WHERE NEAR $1.4 MILLION.

The poster is trying to cover up FOR FRAUD OF THE FAIRFAX COUNTY JUDGES, THE FAIRFAX COUNTY SUPERVISORS, AND THE MEXICANS RUNNING THAT MOB COMPANY.

the county covers for this fraud company because: the board members are running the same kinds of companies and may even be tied to that specific one

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you have your story mother fucker: I have mine

NOW IT'S YOUR TURN: PROVE ANY STAIR CASE COSTS $1.4 MILLION

then also prove that residents could be not informed of this before buying (the law is if anyone knew it had to be replace and was expensive that buyers MUST be informed. omission is not allowed - defects in home sales are only allowed when the seller DOES NOT KNOW OF THEM)

count your blessings Wrote:
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> ...at least your HOA notifies you of crime right
> away and doesn't just ignore the problem but put
> out yet another notice of putting out trash too
> early.
>

HOA in fairafx are provenly full of criminals, always hispanics who "take it over", who conscript false work needed done by hispanic contractors / friends

don't even fucking say the word HOA

that shit is dead in fairfax

and at $1.4 million - someone might really be dead if that staircase is only worth under a hundred thousand

fracturedfairfax Wrote:
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> Oakton Resident Bitter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And yet nothing from our board one we
> > pay $350 a month for I am not sure what!
>
> You're paying for ~25 years of deferred
> maintenance on the Summit Square apartments.
>
> When Orion Residential converted Summit Square to
> Four Winds of Oakton, they spent all the money on
> lipstick on a pig-type upgrades to convince the
> suckers that they were buying a Lexus when they
> really were getting a rebadged and repainted Kia.
>
> On top of that, Orion bought in at the absolute
> top of the market, which started tanking right
> before they started selling.
>
> Since they controlled the condo association board,
> they ignored residents' complaints about the
> decrepit stairs, choosing instead to slap a coat
> of paint over the rust rather than, y'know,
> actually fix them.
>
> It got so bad that some of the condo residents
> called in the county, which threatened to condemn
> the property unless the repairs were made. Since
> Orion still had 40 units of the original 366
> they'd bought, even after six years, they settled
> for $600K and transferred control of the board to
> the unit owners in March 2012.
>
> Unfortunately, the actual cost of the stair
> replacement project was $1.4 million, meaning a
> special assessment for the unit owners.
>
> You're still paying for that project, and likely
> will for many, many years to come.
>
> Bonus: The conversion was such a
> clusterfuck that eventually Dan Gumbiner, the
> president of Orion, moved into the complex from
> Illinois to try and keep the whole thing from
> completely blowing up. He was also president of
> the condo association when the county started
> making their condemnation noises.
>
> Also, it looks like anyone who bought into Four
> Winds early got majorly shafted on price, with a
> lot of the units still valued at tens of thousands
> of dollars less than they were bought for over ten
> years ago.

Interestingly informed on the details. I’m intrigued.

Only info is in the patch. Any updates?

Tain4 Wrote:
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> Only info is in the patch. Any updates?


Our diligent news teams is hard at work on this. There is a major expose that will be on our front page, to show that this crime will be resolved, and no illegal contractors this time were responsible.

So nice to see sarcasm. If this happened in your neighborhood you'd want arrest immediately!

Oakton Resident Bitter Wrote:
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> So nice to see sarcasm. If this happened in your
> neighborhood you'd want arrest immediately!


We are working as hard as we can. 24/7 for ingrates like you we busy our tails at the Patch driven to detail, truth, accuracy and the best of journalism standards.

Was money taken from the victim?

Hello you idiots. Baloney on suspects being white um white people don't stab other white people and this is Oakton not route 1. The fact that this crime has not been solved or updated is unacceptable.

Oakton Resident Bitter Wrote:
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> Hello you idiots. Baloney on suspects being white
> um white people don't stab other white people and
> this is Oakton not route 1. The fact that this
> crime has not been solved or updated is
> unacceptable.

Its always whitey

Was CERT on scene?

Oakton Resident Bitter Wrote:
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> Hello you idiots. Baloney on suspects being white
> um white people don't stab other white people and
> this is Oakton not route 1. The fact that this
> crime has not been solved or updated is
> unacceptable.

Crime affects all regions including Oakton. Yet no worries as Jim Vance and George Michael, our top two investigative journalists are on this story. Updates to follow.

OP, your surprise is surprising. Anyone who thinks this is an unusual occurrence needs to get their head out of the sand. The police aren’t going to do anything and they're not going to tell you anything even if they do. Grow up.

Oh, and don’t say you live in Oakton. That’s just your address. You live off Blake in those apartments. One of those many apartments on that side of the road. The other side of the tracks so-to-speak. So, don’t act like you live in Oakton. You live in the hood.

causeican Wrote:
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> Oh, and don’t say you live in Oakton. That’s
> just your address. You live off Blake in those
> apartments. One of those many apartments on that
> side of the road. The other side of the tracks
> so-to-speak. So, don’t act like you live in
> Oakton. You live in the hood.

22124 is Oakton. How's Route 1 for you? Jealous much?

Oakton= married couples who THINK they are upper class due to their salaries but both work and both have to pay the mortgage on a shitty 60's built single famlily home and stunt like they are rich but there is a 600k mortgage on the house, 100k in the car loans for TWO Audis or Mercedes- literally a million dollars in DEBT with no ASSETS (loans on everything and the credit card bills OMG)... like NEGATIVE NET WORTH yet they still out here partying like the Kardashians and remodeling their homes like they are on HGTV.....


... and if one of them loses their job they lost it ALL.....but they get to say they live in Oakton so they will defend it to the death. Especially since lower-class people are moving in now and they can't be the next great falls and they are mad. :)

I used to approve some of those mortgages. Their debt/income ratios were ALWAYS too high so i had to pull strings. They got their 800k bought at the peak of the market house they wanted though even though i warned them the monthly payment being over 70% of the husband's income meaning the wife would have to handle all other bills.


I warned them it was not a good idea/maybe try a cheaper house---when they already have 1k/month EACH student loan payments, 1500 daycare, 1500 credit cards and insisted they could handle that 3500/month mortgage and ALL the utility bills that come with a bigger house- they still signed up.

Glad I don't work in banks anymore I am just waiting for housing crash 2.0 right now so i can profit off these fools LOL.

Yes and crimes like stabbings are for elsewhere in the county.