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Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: 10JAD ()
Date: September 11, 2017 07:56PM

The greedy folk at the City of Fairfax sent me a nastygram in the mail claiming my wife ran a red light in their teeney tiny "city." The intersection is Fairfax Blvd. WB and Jermantown Rd.

Here's the problem -- while the light on 50 is clearly red, the picture clearly shows my car turning right onto Jermantown Rd.

Can the good people of FU please tell me whether you can turn right on red at this intersection? I am too lazy to drive 15 min or so to look myself.

I'll tell you this though: if it ends up you can indeed turn right on red, I will go fight this in court and score one for the little guise.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Right on Red ()
Date: September 11, 2017 08:30PM

You can turn right on red there. The camera erroneously goes off a lot. This is mentioned in another thread too. Now obviously turning right from the inner lane into 50 would be prohibited on red..turning WB. But I assume that's not the case?

The only new No Turn on Red is a two lights down where 29 and 50 intersect. There's no camera there though.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Officer Friendly ()
Date: September 11, 2017 08:50PM

I have one elementary question. The law is "Right turn on red, after stop"

Did your beloved come to a complete stop before preforming the right hand maneuver?

If not, she is in violation of the law.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Friendly not Observant ()
Date: September 11, 2017 09:05PM

A photograph of a single frames such as those taken by traffic light cameras can not prove whether anyone came to a complete stop or not. Only a full motion video.
I don't know what happened in this case but if the picture is as described and the intersection is not right turn on red restricted then said photo is no evidence of an infraction.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: betamax ()
Date: September 11, 2017 09:09PM

They have the video too....
They didnt want t o show you what the wifey was doing.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: officer ()
Date: September 11, 2017 09:22PM

MAYbe she failed to stop in red. like one time she came to my house when we did the nasty

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: 10JAD ()
Date: September 11, 2017 11:16PM

Friendly not Observant Wrote:
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> A photograph of a single frames such as those
> taken by traffic light cameras can not prove
> whether anyone came to a complete stop or not.
> Only a full motion video.
> I don't know what happened in this case but if the
> picture is as described and the intersection is
> not right turn on red restricted then said photo
> is no evidence of an infraction.


DAMN RITE. I'm taking this to Court.
Emailing Judge Judie first to see if she will take and if not, I'll let everyone know when my big appearance is in the big city of Fairfax.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Roger ()
Date: December 07, 2017 09:48PM

10JAD what happened with the ticket?

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Mike_Hunt ()
Date: December 07, 2017 09:53PM

So are you ever going to post the picture?

Or will you just continue to ~claim~ that it's all the fault of the police/DMV ?


*** Taping foot .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. ..

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: uukuc ()
Date: December 07, 2017 09:56PM

I turn left onto Jermantown from Rt. 50 east every morning. And every morning the lights for the camera flash regardless of whether or not anyone enters the intersection. It will flash on me if I just pull all the way up to the white line. Waiting for my notice of violation. F'ing ridiculous.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Mike_hunt ()
Date: December 07, 2017 10:05PM

uukuc Wrote:
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> I turn left onto Jermantown from Rt. 50 east every
> morning. And every morning the lights for the
> camera flash regardless of whether or not anyone
> enters the intersection. It will flash on me if I
> just pull all the way up to the white line.
> Waiting for my notice of violation. F'ing
> ridiculous.

Exactly !! The same thing happens here on a daily basis too!

...But it's just a subliminal 'scare tactic' 99% of the time

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: JVMTG ()
Date: December 07, 2017 11:23PM

10JAD Wrote:
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> The greedy folk at the City of Fairfax sent me a
> nastygram in the mail claiming my wife ran a red
> light in their teeney tiny "city."

In comparison to NYC or LA, sure.
But, it's actually the average US city size.
Bigger than Williamsburg.

http://www.newgeography.com/content/00242-america-more-small-town-we-think

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: jose juan pablo ()
Date: December 08, 2017 03:23AM

Senor, I was with your wife, we had just left the holiday inn down the street together. Sorry we ran the light, in this tiny town, which she also says is the size of your penis.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: throw it away ()
Date: December 08, 2017 09:53AM

throw your red light notices away. That is what I do. As unconstitutional as the whole red light system is we have one key advantage here in VA - in the Commonwealth of Virginia a notice from a third party delivered by regular mail does not qualify as service of notification. The camera company mails you a letter how can they prove they mailed it? How can they prove you received it?

If you contact the city or anyone else you of course verify your receipt of the notice and you have to pay. Throw it away and they can prove nothing. I throw away any mail not directly from a vendor, person, company or government agency I know and have business with. 'ABC Violation Notice' or whatever the company is is junk mail to me. Fuck em.

They give a for-profit company responsibility for chain of evidence, equipment maintenance/calibration and they are paid per violation. They are not objective. Moreover there is no accuser to face in court. Finally, they ticket the owner of the vehicle with no idea who is operating it. Presumption of innocence is simply flushed down the toilet along with several other rights.

Never pay never reply unless the Sheriff delivers the citation in person.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Scott Silverthorne ()
Date: December 08, 2017 10:07AM

Pay the tickets if you get one. Fairfax City needs the money.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Ryan ()
Date: January 26, 2018 12:50AM

Stupid people.... Juan you obviously live in a sewer....
Go get a corona and some chorizo

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Sheinbein II ()
Date: January 26, 2018 12:00PM

That traffic camera is like a strobe light on most nights. No violators, but it goes off repeatedly. What a waste of taxpayers time fighting bogus tickets. And this has been going on for months.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Can't Kill the Cash Cow ()
Date: January 26, 2018 01:02PM

Sheinbein II Wrote:
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> That traffic camera is like a strobe light on most
> nights. No violators, but it goes off repeatedly.
> What a waste of taxpayers time fighting bogus
> tickets. And this has been going on for months.

I won't even make a right turn if light is red.

FFX City playing the numbers game with tickets sent out to tickets paid. I'm sure the return is well worth any number of complaints filed.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Red light $$$$ ()
Date: January 26, 2018 07:30PM

Ticket money buys drugs for the meth faggot mayor of Fairfax city....

Silverthorn!

You homos!

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: RAD1 ()
Date: April 20, 2018 05:10PM

I would like to toss the citation but they threaten with "subject to formal collection procedures" if you do not pay. I don't want to hurt my credit rating over this BS.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: JerryVandercroft ()
Date: April 20, 2018 08:54PM

I got a ticket at the same place. I frequent that intersection a lot and have seen the flash go off all the time for no reason. My ticket didnt come with a ticket. I have never recieved one in fairfax before, the others I just ignored cause legally theyre just phishing scams and not real tickets. Theyve never gone on my record or credit report for ignoring them. But knowing Fairfax fucked up town itll probably be different.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: JerryVandercroft ()
Date: April 20, 2018 09:05PM

*The ticket didnt come with a pic.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Juanrivas ()
Date: February 04, 2019 10:06PM

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Run a redbmdct ()
Date: February 04, 2019 11:02PM

Ticketed at Pickett and 236...” you have to stop for 30 seconds before making right on red”...paid it...

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: ToddDeAngelo ()
Date: February 04, 2019 11:03PM

First off, photo radar tickets are unconstitutional and you should never acknowledge them. Its a phishing scam for you dumb scared rule followers, simply ignore them.
2nd I frequent that intersection and see the cam going off all the time on ppl who didnt do anything. Myself included, they sent me a ticket for making a right on red. Still even if youre in the right do not acknowledge them, a real person has to give you a summons not some private contractors hired by greedy fairfax to supplement their worthless jobs.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Commander Fred ()
Date: February 05, 2019 01:03AM

Allowing your wife to drive was a mistake.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: I Got a Ticket There Too ()
Date: February 05, 2019 02:12AM

About 6 months ago, they nabbed me.

My observations:

1) The ticket showed my speed while I was traveling in the right lane, so I believe they figured out I did a "California stop" and didn't fully come to a stop.

2) In the pictures on the ticket, the sign for "When Pedestrians are Present" which is above the "No Turn on Red" sign was blurred out. Clearly, there were not any pedestrians present when I made the turn.

I think the company that handles the ticket are playing with Photoshop to blur the signs out to make one think they are guilty. I went back to the intersection to confirm the signs were properly there. WTF?

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: c66lc ()
Date: February 05, 2019 01:45PM

Right on Red Wrote:
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> You can turn right on red there. The camera
> erroneously goes off a lot. This is mentioned in
> another thread too. Now obviously turning right
> from the inner lane into 50 would be prohibited on
> red..turning WB. But I assume that's not the
> case?
>
> The only new No Turn on Red is a two lights down
> where 29 and 50 intersect. There's no camera there
> though.


that can't be true becuase certain families always awarded "studies" money did studies on installing the cameras, the the manufacturer charged a butt load of money

IT WOULD MAKE AT LEAST TWO PARTIES CRIMINALS IN THE MATTER


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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: wwyym ()
Date: February 05, 2019 01:46PM

the study was criminal anyway, because the work was billed for million(s) and was just cut and pasted from other muni that already did the study and or provided by the manufacturer of the "troll system"

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Don't Do It ()
Date: February 07, 2019 08:23AM

The lesson I've learned is, don't turn right on red anywhere in Fairfax City.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Warrant? ()
Date: February 07, 2019 09:19AM

Yes, but don't unpaid speed camera tickets go to warrants? If so, the next time you get pulled over you might get a trip to the pokey.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: thwly ()
Date: February 07, 2019 05:03PM

Warrant? Wrote:
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> Yes, but don't unpaid speed camera tickets go to
> warrants? If so, the next time you get pulled
> over you might get a trip to the pokey.

with a hindu running the tax dept for fx co gov - who shouldn't even be in the country and is hiring thieves to work with him ...

RIGHT. the law is gov has to come forward to collect. government cannot harbor long debts "on file" and decide to press them later. don't tell corrupt dc and fx gov that. they believe any dime extorted is a dime earned.

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax) rt 50 x Jermantown rd
Posted by: david100 ()
Date: March 09, 2019 11:05PM

I assume we can turn Right on red-light , got ticked with pic did not wait enough
yellow 4.00 read time 4.6 speed 18 mph on right turn

not sure to contest in court or just pay it this as stupidity ffx city

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Re: Bogus Red Light Camera Ticket? (City of Fairfax)
Posted by: Suckoff contest ()
Date: March 09, 2019 11:31PM

Goto city hall and give a blowjob to the mayor!
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