im on probation for a dui and its supposed to end on feb 2010. last weekend i got a drunk in public and disorderly conduct charge. i was not breathalyzed, i left a msg on my probation officers voicemail the minute i got out of jail, telling her i got these charges and i plan to beat them. i also told her i didnt get breathalyzed either. now, in the next 2-3 days i have 3 appointments with 3 lawyers. Mark dycio, jim love, and hunter whitestone ( i wanted robert but pat said he doens't handle small cases anymore) is mark dycio really that unethical of a lawyer? i heard he's good and i had him once, he did OKAY but considering my situation, i dont think there was much for him to work on. im considering hiring him again but im a lil hesitant. he is cocky and thats a big negative for me. but money is not an issue here and i will pay top dollar to get the best representation for this case. i heard Jim Love was unethical too but i also heard he was a good lawyer. HELP

I believe the charge is appearing drunk in public; you do not need to be drunk to be charge. So I don't think the breathalizer matters. DUI and DIP; look in the mirror dude!

wait wait wait. you're telling me lawyers, particulalry lawyers who deal with dui's are unethical. I find this VERY hard to believe!

shocked Wrote:
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> wait wait wait. you're telling me lawyers,
> particulalry lawyers who deal with dui's are
> unethical. I find this VERY hard to believe!


no im saying i read on other threads bout mr love and mr dycio being thieves or wutever, who charge real high and dont put that much effort into it

hatefairfax Wrote:
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> shocked Wrote:
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> > wait wait wait. you're telling me lawyers,
> > particulalry lawyers who deal with dui's are
> > unethical. I find this VERY hard to believe!
>
>
> no im saying i read on other threads bout mr love
> and mr dycio being thieves or wutever, who charge
> real high and dont put that much effort into it

wait wait wait. Now you are telling me that there are DUI lawyers who are thieves?!?!?! And, to top it all off, DUI lawyers charging real high without putting much effort into the cases?!?!?!? This must be some sort of joke!

"pat said he doesn't take small cases anymmore"

please tell me you aren't going to Inkahootz for legal advice.

shocked Wrote:
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> hatefairfax Wrote:
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> > shocked Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > wait wait wait. you're telling me lawyers,
> > > particulalry lawyers who deal with dui's are
> > > unethical. I find this VERY hard to believe!
> >
> >
> > no im saying i read on other threads bout mr
> love
> > and mr dycio being thieves or wutever, who
> charge
> > real high and dont put that much effort into it
>
> wait wait wait. Now you are telling me that there
> are DUI lawyers who are thieves?!?!?! And, to top
> it all off, DUI lawyers charging real high without
> putting much effort into the cases?!?!?!? This
> must be some sort of joke!


dude relax its what i read, i just put it out there to see if other people agree or disagree

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> "pat said he doesn't take small cases anymmore"
>
> please tell me you aren't going to Inkahootz for
> legal advice.


yea thats what pat told me today, she said since he's gettin older now, hes gettin a lil selective and prefers to take bigger cases

What are the terms of your probation? Is a class 4 misdemeanor really that much of a jam up? Removing a shopping cart from a store premesis is a more serious offense.

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> What are the terms of your probation? Is a class
> 4 misdemeanor really that much of a jam up?
> Removing a shopping cart from a store premesis is
> a more serious offense.


standard dui probation terms. no drinking while ur on probation. disorderly conduct is class 1 misdameanor

hatefairfax Wrote:
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> standard dui probation terms. no drinking while ur
> on probation. disorderly conduct is class 1
> misdameanor


describe the circumstances of your arresst.

i was at a bar in annandale..the cops were hiding at the bar next door...my friends were getting into a scuffle and as i was charging at the guy, i got tackled by the cop, i guess when they heard yelling they ran to us. bout 4 of us got arrested with disorderly conduct and 2/4 got drunk in public with it, including me. i was not breathalyzed but i guess i was cussing out loud cuz of the fact i was gettin arrested and i knew i was goin to be in some shit (bad move i know)...and then we just got handcuffed and taken into custody and i spent the nite in jail. that was basically it

this happened outside the bar, not inside

fist mistake: "i was at a bar in annandale"

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> "pat said he doesn't take small cases anymmore"
>
> please tell me you aren't going to Inkahootz for
> legal advice.

+1 LMAO

As you probably know Police will slap you with a DIP so they can throw in jail for the night and not have to deal with you again later that night.

You might try http://www.pbhclaw.com/index.htm Greg Beckwith

Terrible website but thought these were interesting

http://www.fairfaxtrafficlawyers.com/mistakes.html

Top ten mistakes of a DUI stop:

Did the officer tell you that your license would automatically be suspended if you refused a breath test?
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Did the officer tell you that the preliminary breath test would not be used in Court?
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Did a police officer tell you to blow harder during the breath test?
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Were you stopped for any of the following reasons: Speeding, Weaving, Failure to Maintain a Single Lane, Obstruction of Traffic?
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Do you suffer from any injuries or illnesses which might affect your balance or ability to perform the field tests?
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Were you involved in an accident in which you suffered any injuries - did the airbags deploy?
bullet

Did the officer mistake nervousness or exhaustion for intoxication?
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Were roadside sobriety tests conducted on a surface that was not flat, dry and well-lit?
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Did the officer fail to observe you for 20 minutes immediately prior to the breath test?

You don't have to breathalized for a DIP. It's not admissible in court regardless because it's hearsay evidence. You simply need to "appear drunk in public." It's why it's a class 4 misdemeanor.

Here's a crazy idea. Get drunk in your own home. No one needs to see your dumbass staggering around making a dickwad of yourself.

check out this web site to see if any complaints or charges have been filed against the lawyers you mentioned:

http://www.vsb.org/site/public/


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Unfortunately, it sounds like you're a goner. Some advice. Forget about a lawyer, save your money, take your punishment, and quit drinking.

When are going to learn how to hold your liquor?

shocked Wrote:
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> wait wait wait. you're telling me lawyers,
> particulalry lawyers who deal with dui's are
> unethical. I find this VERY hard to believe!


Giving someone their Constitutionally granted defense is not "Unethical". If you're representing a Terrorist, well, then you're a Traitor, but that's another situation entirely.

Dane Bramage Wrote:
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> Unfortunately, it sounds like you're a goner. Some
> advice. Forget about a lawyer, save your money,
> take your punishment, and quit drinking.


Lol, I don't agree with the pessimistic first point, but yeah, how are you going to be on Probation for a DUI, and yet you're out getting hammered again?

ive heard good things about jim love. and who cares if your lawyer is unethical if you get off. youre not exactly in a great situation here. and what are they gonna do to be unethical in a d.i.p case? pay the mob to start killing witnesses?

I just recently used Demetrios Pikrallidas and thought he did a damn good job. He'll tell you exactly what he thinks. Definitely work having a conversation with.

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> shocked Wrote:
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> > wait wait wait. you're telling me lawyers,
> > particulalry lawyers who deal with dui's are
> > unethical. I find this VERY hard to believe!
>
>
> Giving someone their Constitutionally granted
> defense is not "Unethical". If you're representing
> a Terrorist, well, then you're a Traitor, but
> that's another situation entirely.

You are reading too much into my comments. I am not saying that providing counsel is unethical, just the way they run their business. Look at the billing structure of these operations and tell me if they are ethical.

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> I just recently used Demetrios Pikrallidas and
> thought he did a damn good job. He'll tell you
> exactly what he thinks. Definitely work having a
> conversation with.

Mr. Pikrallidas,
Thanks for your post. You forgot to provide your phone #.

Unfortunately lawyers cant even fix stupid.

Fixing stupid, definately work trying! Nice plug moron. Now to real life dillemas.... I am new to the Fairfax area and am looking for some good quality FREE gloryholes. If you have found any please let me know. All suggestions are greately appreciated!

shocked Wrote:
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> ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> > shocked Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > wait wait wait. you're telling me lawyers,
> > > particulalry lawyers who deal with dui's are
> > > unethical. I find this VERY hard to believe!
> >
> >
> > Giving someone their Constitutionally granted
> > defense is not "Unethical". If you're
> representing
> > a Terrorist, well, then you're a Traitor, but
> > that's another situation entirely.
>
> You are reading too much into my comments. I am
> not saying that providing counsel is unethical,
> just the way they run their business. Look at the
> billing structure of these operations and tell me
> if they are ethical.


Oh alright, I got you. I think it depends upon the practice to be honest, as they vary in regards to their billing structure. Yes, I know of rip-off "lawyers", but I know of some very honest and straightforward ones as well.

One example of a rip-off was a friend of mine who had a "Driving without a Valid Operator's License". He called some lawyer that was covered by a plan at the office where he worked, and she didn't know squat about the law. She started by telling him that his charges were a Class II Felony (Which is Attempted Murder for instance), and then she said that she could work on his case for $2,500, but that she wouldn't represent him in court, because there wasn't much she could do in that regard. What a load of BS. I told him that it was a Class II Misdemeanor, and if he paid the worthless Lawyer $2,500, that was $1,000 more than he could possibly owe the court in fines at the MOST. He dumped that lawyer, went to another, and he took up the case for under $1,000, represented him in Court, and had the charges dismissed.

hatefairfax Wrote:
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> standard dui probation terms. no drinking while ur
> on probation. disorderly conduct is class 1
> misdameanor

u soun like a real ashole, i am thnkfull for teh fairfax cops for teh first time

Where are the good FREE gloryholes at here in Fairfax? Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated!