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Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Vote America! ()
Date: July 08, 2017 05:13PM

Elections for FCPS School Board Seats: the biggest spender of Fairfax money means large impact on community.

Sandra D. Allen, did not get back to the agency before the post, and Verizon is bouncing her VA Dept. of Elections contact/email. A former FCPS Teacher, PTA member.

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Michelle Owens gives her issues as seeking safety and wellness of students, no political affiliation stated or required for school board.

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D - R

D - Karen Keys-Gamarra, the Democrat candidate apparently has many current jobs: court appointed guardian for children. volunteers for such organizations as the NAACP and CASA (in past worked in a few other State and Private legal capacities, including discrimination lawsuits). Also currently appointed by Democrats on County Board of Supevisors as both Planning Commissioner of Schools and Parks Committees (but running for ) and the Personnel and Budget Committee. Her issues are "anti-bullying". Her origins are unstated, she schooled in New Orleans and Illinois.

R - Chris Grisafe is an American Veteran from California educated in VA, now works as a project manager with Science Applications International Corp. and is vice president of his condominium association. Issues include "accountability of spending, and education improvements"

Both the D and R candidates have been running for various fx co gov offices in the past.

The election will not rule how much FCPS spends but certainly may have impact.



Remember to VOTE August 29, 2017


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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: money money money ()
Date: July 08, 2017 08:29PM

Keys Gamarra supports changing the names of:
Stuar
Lee
Woodson

That's likely a million dollars a pop--instead of hiring teachers.

Is that really a top priority?

Don't know anything about the other two.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Vote America! ()
Date: July 08, 2017 11:07PM

CORRECTION

Sandra D. Allen's occupation is unknown at this time.

Michelle Owens is a former FCPS Teacher and PTA member, who's latest issue posted is the wellness of children (as opposed to "wellness of the school system").

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: GWEVE ()
Date: July 08, 2017 11:29PM

Once again, the only logical move is to vote for the white male.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 09, 2017 09:18AM

The primary qualification of the two party endorsed candidates is that they each were failed candidates for the Board of Supervisors. Presumably their supporters in the Democratic and Republican parties think their name recognition would give them a leg up in a special election where turnout is likely to be low.

I would not vote for Karen Keys-Gamarra under any circumstances. She is a status quo candidate on steroids. She is advocating seeking approval from the General Assembly for the School Board to have separate taxing authority. If you think the only problem with the school policies in the past was that they were not pushed far enough, Karen Keys-Gamarra is your woman. If you feel the school system is headed in the wrong direction and needs to re-orient, she is the enemy.

I live in the district Chris Grisafe ran to represent, but I don't remember him being involved in fights affecting schools in his district. I don't remember him out in front opposing the meals tax. His announced agenda to date gives little indication that he is willing to support the school reform movement. In short he has done nothing so far to win my vote.

So we need to hear from Sandra D. Allen.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: gerrymandered ()
Date: July 09, 2017 11:50AM

gerrymanderer worked hard to bury this article yesterday

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: FOIA CAN BITE ()
Date: July 09, 2017 01:06PM

Speaking to taxing authority.....


Did they ever resolve the auditor on leave situation, last I remember they had an interim...they had not replaced the auditor.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Vote America! ()
Date: July 09, 2017 06:26PM

New News!

Sandra D Allen's issues are to focus on children's grades rather than the school system, to close the current gap between grades of minorities, Sandra does not believe schools board elections should be political but based on parents wish for good grades, which she knows by having worked for the school system, Sandra is proudly hispanic in an interracial marriage.

Sandra D Allen's email was wrongly put down by electorates and then fx co: her email is sandraa22@verizon.net and a facebook page will be posted soon.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: here we go... ()
Date: July 10, 2017 07:40AM

Chris Grisafe is an Elizabeth Schultz protege and can be expected to take her lead in promoting more evaluation of spending with a focus on getting funds to teachers in the classroom - reducing class sizes, reducing/eliminating IB and charging for AP, pressuring the growth in SpecEd and ESL services. ES also supports accountability and transparency - e.g. changes to contracting practices (recently promoted by Karen Corbett Sanders) and supports a more independent Audit function. ES is not a SJW and is frustrated by the social agenda of McElveen/Hynes/Palchik/Evans - she supports a simple "respect for all" rather than granting specific recognition to various groups (e.g. transgender). I expect that Grisafe would follow that lead (as Tom Wilson often does).

Grisafe does not have any experience with school issues or politics. He clearly has support of the FFX Republicans which likely means that fiscal restraint will be a core principle.

I agree with Bill N's view of Keys-Gamarra and Owens. Allen is an unknown at this point. This election won't swing the Board but Grisafe could help promote additional transparency and accountability by strengthening the "inquisitive" wing of the Board (Schultz/Wilson/KCS/McLaughlin). The Dems have their head in the sand and will promote more of the same - spend, spend, spend...

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: choices ()
Date: July 10, 2017 10:00AM

I think the candidate is Michael Owens--not Michelle Owens. I found a website and it appears her agenda is childhood obesity.

Have not been able to find anything about Sandra Allen.

None of the choices appear good.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: ES is an ignorant redneck ()
Date: July 10, 2017 07:12PM

here we go... Wrote:
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> Chris Grisafe is an Elizabeth Schultz protege and
> can be expected to take her lead in promoting more
> evaluation of spending with a focus on getting
> funds to teachers in the classroom - reducing
> class sizes, reducing/eliminating IB and charging
> for AP, pressuring the growth in SpecEd and ESL
> services. ES also supports accountability and
> transparency - e.g. changes to contracting
> practices (recently promoted by Karen Corbett
> Sanders) and supports a more independent Audit
> function. ES is not a SJW and is frustrated by
> the social agenda of McElveen/Hynes/Palchik/Evans
> - she supports a simple "respect for all" rather
> than granting specific recognition to various
> groups (e.g. transgender). I expect that Grisafe
> would follow that lead (as Tom Wilson often
> does).
>
> Grisafe does not have any experience with school
> issues or politics. He clearly has support of the
> FFX Republicans which likely means that fiscal
> restraint will be a core principle.
>
> I agree with Bill N's view of Keys-Gamarra and
> Owens. Allen is an unknown at this point. This
> election won't swing the Board but Grisafe could
> help promote additional transparency and
> accountability by strengthening the "inquisitive"
> wing of the Board (Schultz/Wilson/KCS/McLaughlin).
> The Dems have their head in the sand and will
> promote more of the same - spend, spend, spend...

And when Elizabeth Schultz says "respect for all", she means white, conservative, English-speaking, upper-middle class "all" ... anyone else can suck it while she goes to buy ammo at Wal-Mart.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: FOIA CAN BITE ()
Date: July 10, 2017 07:31PM

Can't anybody ever take an opposing position without getting bashed?

Maybe you should listen. She asks the hard questions that they haven't given a thought to. We need balance.

I know there are times she can turn people off by hammering but I'd rather have the balance any day. Glad she's there.

What's so hard about listening to both sides....try it, you may learn something, it's worked for me.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: here we go... ()
Date: July 10, 2017 09:53PM

Thanks for your plea for considerate, respectful discourse. I don't hold any illusions that it will be widely adopted but I think it speaks well of individuals who uphold values of respect and civil discourse and reject the ad hominem attacks and simplistic, uninformed, partisan assertions.

Our values are evidenced by our actions.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Vote America! ()
Date: July 10, 2017 10:34PM

Sandra D. Allen. https://www.facebook.com/people/Sandra-D-Allen/100019275852406

(see also notes) (this campaign url is not yet published on VA websites or in local news articles). A repost of some material is on ffu for those who cannot login to facebook: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/2620997.html)
Attachments:
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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 11, 2017 02:15AM

FOIA CAN BITE Wrote:
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> Can't anybody ever take an opposing position
> without getting bashed?
>
> Maybe you should listen. She asks the hard
> questions that they haven't given a thought to. We
> need balance.
>
> I know there are times she can turn people off by
> hammering but I'd rather have the balance any day.
> Glad she's there.
>
> What's so hard about listening to both
> sides....try it, you may learn something, it's
> worked for me.

Even with an 8-2 conservative/liberal split on the School Board Elizabeth Schultz has played and deserves credit for forcing accountability on the School Board. There are many initiatives that have been scrutinized and altered because of her examination of the propriety of social engineering and frivolous spending. Just give proper credit when deserved!

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 11, 2017 09:47AM

The left-right split is the wrong way to look at it. Replacing the current board with a bunch of right wing ideologues would still leave us with a fucked up school system. It would just be fucked up in a different way. Schultz is at her best not when she is advocating for a right wing agenda, but when she is challenging the poorly thought out policies being pushed by the current School Board majority.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: tolerance ()
Date: July 11, 2017 10:00AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> The left-right split is the wrong way to look at
> it. Replacing the current board with a bunch of
> right wing ideologues would still leave us with a
> fucked up school system. It would just be fucked
> up in a different way. Schultz is at her best not
> when she is advocating for a right wing agenda,
> but when she is challenging the poorly thought out
> policies being pushed by the current School Board
> majority.


I agree. But, we certainly need more balance than just Schultz and Wilson. Hough was an asset who was not appreciated.
McLaughlin tries to be balanced. Corbett-Sanders has tried to address some budget issues realistically, but the rest walk in lock-step.

The social justice issues seem to take priority no matter what the cost. The problem is that they never see that some of these issues are unfair to those who have a different point of view. Tolerance should come from all sides. On our School Board, it does not. The transgender issue was a great example. There are not always easy answers, but it never helps to shout down those who see things differently.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 11, 2017 11:54AM

tolerance Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bill.N. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The left-right split is the wrong way to look
> at
> > it. Replacing the current board with a bunch
> of
> > right wing ideologues would still leave us with
> a
> > fucked up school system. It would just be
> fucked
> > up in a different way. Schultz is at her best
> not
> > when she is advocating for a right wing agenda,
> > but when she is challenging the poorly thought
> out
> > policies being pushed by the current School
> Board
> > majority.
>
>
> I agree. But, we certainly need more balance than
> just Schultz and Wilson. Hough was an asset who
> was not appreciated.
> McLaughlin tries to be balanced. Corbett-Sanders
> has tried to address some budget issues
> realistically, but the rest walk in lock-step.
>
> The social justice issues seem to take priority no
> matter what the cost. The problem is that they
> never see that some of these issues are unfair to
> those who have a different point of view.
> Tolerance should come from all sides. On our
> School Board, it does not. The transgender issue
> was a great example. There are not always easy
> answers, but it never helps to shout down those
> who see things differently.

Fairfax County will NEVER have a conservative majority, particularly in the School Board where the PTA and teacher's union is the training ground for the position. Schultz's presence has forced accountability upon the Board which has forced them to actually analyze problems before throwing funds at them.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: agree ()
Date: July 11, 2017 12:31PM

Inquisitive One Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> tolerance Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bill.N. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The left-right split is the wrong way to look
> > at
> > > it. Replacing the current board with a bunch
> > of
> > > right wing ideologues would still leave us
> with
> > a
> > > fucked up school system. It would just be
> > fucked
> > > up in a different way. Schultz is at her
> best
> > not
> > > when she is advocating for a right wing
> agenda,
> > > but when she is challenging the poorly
> thought
> > out
> > > policies being pushed by the current School
> > Board
> > > majority.
> >
> >
> > I agree. But, we certainly need more balance
> than
> > just Schultz and Wilson. Hough was an asset
> who
> > was not appreciated.
> > McLaughlin tries to be balanced.
> Corbett-Sanders
> > has tried to address some budget issues
> > realistically, but the rest walk in lock-step.
> >
> > The social justice issues seem to take priority
> no
> > matter what the cost. The problem is that they
> > never see that some of these issues are unfair
> to
> > those who have a different point of view.
> > Tolerance should come from all sides. On our
> > School Board, it does not. The transgender
> issue
> > was a great example. There are not always easy
> > answers, but it never helps to shout down those
> > who see things differently.
>
> Fairfax County will NEVER have a conservative
> majority, particularly in the School Board where
> the PTA and teacher's union is the training ground
> for the position. Schultz's presence has forced
> accountability upon the Board which has forced
> them to actually analyze problems before throwing
> funds at them.

This is correct. But, it sure would help to have someone else who realizes that the money comes from the taxpayers and not an inexhaustible pot. And, those who realize that everything comes with a price tag--even transgenders in bathrooms and changing the names of schools.

The SB needs to realize that their purpose is to educate the children They need to prioritize the funds with that in mind.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 11, 2017 01:35PM

agree Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Inquisitive One Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tolerance Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bill.N. Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > The left-right split is the wrong way to
> look
> > > at
> > > > it. Replacing the current board with a
> bunch
> > > of
> > > > right wing ideologues would still leave us
> > with
> > > a
> > > > fucked up school system. It would just be
> > > fucked
> > > > up in a different way. Schultz is at her
> > best
> > > not
> > > > when she is advocating for a right wing
> > agenda,
> > > > but when she is challenging the poorly
> > thought
> > > out
> > > > policies being pushed by the current School
> > > Board
> > > > majority.
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree. But, we certainly need more balance
> > than
> > > just Schultz and Wilson. Hough was an asset
> > who
> > > was not appreciated.
> > > McLaughlin tries to be balanced.
> > Corbett-Sanders
> > > has tried to address some budget issues
> > > realistically, but the rest walk in lock-step.
>
> > >
> > > The social justice issues seem to take
> priority
> > no
> > > matter what the cost. The problem is that
> they
> > > never see that some of these issues are
> unfair
> > to
> > > those who have a different point of view.
> > > Tolerance should come from all sides. On our
> > > School Board, it does not. The transgender
> > issue
> > > was a great example. There are not always
> easy
> > > answers, but it never helps to shout down
> those
> > > who see things differently.
> >
> > Fairfax County will NEVER have a conservative
> > majority, particularly in the School Board
> where
> > the PTA and teacher's union is the training
> ground
> > for the position. Schultz's presence has
> forced
> > accountability upon the Board which has forced
> > them to actually analyze problems before
> throwing
> > funds at them.
>
> This is correct. But, it sure would help to have
> someone else who realizes that the money comes
> from the taxpayers and not an inexhaustible pot.
> And, those who realize that everything comes with
> a price tag--even transgenders in bathrooms and
> changing the names of schools.
>
> The SB needs to realize that their purpose is to
> educate the children They need to prioritize the
> funds with that in mind.

Amen! It would be my one hope that the School Board would realize this one fact. The problem is that in its current configuration and leadership it will never happen. The School Board leadership is too political and too selfish to do the right thing. Their mission statement and other organizational statements are admirable, however, their actions are that of a very political and partisan body in which at the end of the day the kids take a back seat to their personal ambitions.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/11/2017 01:37PM by Inquisitive One.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: pkdun ()
Date: July 12, 2017 05:54PM

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 17, 2017 12:43PM

I still have been unable to find sufficient information about Allen or Owens, or sufficient information about the school policies being advocated by Grisafe to make an informed decision. Has anyone else managed to get real information on the candidates?

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: wppwe ()
Date: July 17, 2017 01:29PM

Karen Keys-Gamarra I agree is too embeded in party and status quo.

Too many like minded people who don't respect those who see things differently and just want to further their own agenda regardless of those who want different ends up with a corrupt board that does nothing good (PG County).

Grisafe seems like the only candidate that would balance the board and bring about debate of issues, rather than rubber stamp approval of party activism as is done by the liberal majority on the board.

Issues of late with FCPS has been the budget, larger class size, and Grisafe would be a good balance on these and would probably fight for smaller class sizes and meeting the budget. We need more diversity of views on the board.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: speak up please ()
Date: July 17, 2017 01:29PM

So, just listened to a work session from last week.

Falls Church High School has kids in wheelchairs and NO SPRINKLER system. And, yet, today SB will vote to rename Jeb Stuart High at the cost of $1million......

Keys-Gamarra supports this move. I know the money comes from different funds, but it is poor stewardship of taxpayer money.

We need to hear from other SB nominees of how they would spend money.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: nefwe ()
Date: July 17, 2017 01:32PM

@Inquisitive One, "The School Board leadership is too political and too selfish to do the right thing."

Well said, at least about the majority on the board. We need another Jeanette Hough on the board.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 17, 2017 01:36PM

From what I could gather you have Grisafe which will hopefully be an Elizabeth Schultz like Member without her unnecessary and extraneous social agenda and the remainder being existing School Board clones that will politically fall somewhere between McLaughlin on the right and McElveen on the left. Hopefully, debates will be held or additional information will become available.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: potential voter ()
Date: July 19, 2017 07:42PM

Does anyone know anything about Michael Owens?

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: DailyKos ()
Date: July 20, 2017 12:50PM


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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: 639wy ()
Date: July 20, 2017 02:16PM

Pig mud slinging articles like the dailykos article posted above is exactly why I will make sure I head to the polls to vote for Chris Grisafe.

The left is putting forward partisan hacks who rely on mudslinging and are only interested in one thing, the party.

From what I've read, Chris is a very down to earth guy, served the country and seems like he wants to be there just to do what is right.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 20, 2017 02:34PM

I am a Liberal and a Democrat, and even I think that story is a load of crap.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Pattyg ()
Date: July 20, 2017 07:40PM

Karen Keys Gamara is the wrong choice. She is the current Planning Comissioner for Sully and doesn't know anything about land use. She attends the meetings and never asks questions or make comments, she sits there like a bump on a log.

I will be voting for Grisafe.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: huge cost ()
Date: July 20, 2017 07:46PM

Pattyg Wrote:
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> Karen Keys Gamara is the wrong choice. She is the
> current Planning Comissioner for Sully and doesn't
> know anything about land use. She attends the
> meetings and never asks questions or make
> comments, she sits there like a bump on a log.
>
> I will be voting for Grisafe.


She is on record as supporting name changes for Stuart, Lee, and Woodson. There's $3million right there that won't do a thing for the classroom. And, that is just the beginning. There are a bunch of other schools with Confederate connections: Mosby Woods; Lanier; etc.

Whether you want name change or not, is it worth the expense at the cost of the kids in the classroom?

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Johngu ()
Date: July 20, 2017 09:44PM

Our schools need so many things, name changes are not necessary. Gamara wants to spend 3 million to change the names of schools? What a bunch of bunk!

I will not vote for her.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 21, 2017 12:52AM

Johngu Wrote:
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> Our schools need so many things, name changes are
> not necessary. Gamara wants to spend 3 million to
> change the names of schools? What a bunch of
> bunk!
>
> I will not vote for her.


Being supportive of the name changes is acceptable provided it is supported by some sort of reasoning and cost mitigation but a blanket name change statement tells me that if elected she will be another actor in the three ring circus that has become the FCPS School Board. In the meantime, teacher/student ratios rise and student achievement sinks!

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 21, 2017 12:56AM

639wy Wrote:
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> Pig mud slinging articles like the dailykos
> article posted above is exactly why I will make
> sure I head to the polls to vote for Chris
> Grisafe.
>
> The left is putting forward partisan hacks who
> rely on mudslinging and are only interested in one
> thing, the party.
>
> From what I've read, Chris is a very down to earth
> guy, served the country and seems like he wants to
> be there just to do what is right.

I agree. The articles were over the top and it is fairly apparent that the 3 Democrat supported candidates are Moon/Evans/McElveen clones.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Jenn34 ()
Date: July 22, 2017 12:37PM

No way I'd vote for Gamara. She is a looney toon. Don't know much about the other ones. The money to rename schools is ridiculous. Keep the current names.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: TD ()
Date: July 22, 2017 03:40PM

Have we heard Keys-Gamara speak out in support of not freezing teacher pay? Lowerimg class size? About accountability of expenditures? If her main platform is to change the names of schools she should be easily defeated. The entire school board needs to focus on students and employees and education instead of the favorite flavor of the day with regard to social engineering.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: FOIA CAN BITE ()
Date: July 22, 2017 04:00PM

Our school board is elected on a non-partisan ballot. Sure, SB members are endorsed by parties, but once elected their Code of Conduct reads that they leave personal and special interests out of their deliberations. FOIA evidence shows Sandy Evans and Pat Hynes, in particular, have violated their oaths of office to be impartial as well as the special interest clause of the FCSB Code of Conduct.

The issues behind the name change are far, far deeper. School Board members have usurped the voice of the Stuart Pyramid communities that rejected the name change and are forcing their personal political agenda on us. They aligned with the NAACP to help bully the students and communities into submission. The students are resolute. 90% of those surveyed reject a change. The community said NO. Respect them.

The process used to deliberate a name change violated R. 8170.7, the renaming regulation. The terminology in the regulation is not defined and therefore can be manipulated to fit specific situations instead of providing guidance for all county schools. This is a HUGE defect and might even not pass judicial scrutiny.

Read bullet point #18 on page 27…George Alber (NAACP) questions Kaufax doing her job…?
Here's a link to the FOIA evidence.
https://goo.gl/cserZN

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: CityDweller ()
Date: July 22, 2017 04:12PM

Taxation without representation.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: TD ()
Date: July 22, 2017 04:22PM

It is obvious that if the change goes through, which is likely even if modified to plain Stuart, that FCPS will be paying a lot of attorney fees to fight the inevitable lawsuits to challenge the decision. Emotion ruled the day, not logic. The district does not have the money to carry out pet social engineering projects.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: an observation ()
Date: July 22, 2017 04:26PM

TD Wrote:
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> Have we heard Keys-Gamara speak out in support of
> not freezing teacher pay? Lowerimg class size?
> About accountability of expenditures? If her main
> platform is to change the names of schools she
> should be easily defeated. The entire school board
> needs to focus on students and employees and
> education instead of the favorite flavor of the
> day with regard to social engineering.

It's interesting that the memo shown at the workshop on the screen on renaming Jeb Stuart was posted that morning before the meeting--but mysteriously "disappeared" prior to the meeting.
My guess is that the "compelling reason" given for renaming was not compelling and that it was back to the drawing board. If you watch the video of the meeting, it is clear that SB members are worried that they have overstepped. Most want to change the name, but realize now that the appropriate rules were not followed.
This is a case of assuming that the community thinks the same way they do--kind of like other positions they have taken that turned out to be unpopular with the community.
So much for transparency.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: TD ()
Date: July 22, 2017 04:32PM

This is reminiscent of the change of start times due to a flawed sleep study! The students were never polled. The students are paying the price. Especially the middle school students who stand out in the dead of dark to await busses. This was another instance of certain school board members pushing through their personal agendas. The so-called community engagement was a sham.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: same, same ()
Date: July 22, 2017 04:51PM

TD Wrote:
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> This is reminiscent of the change of start times
> due to a flawed sleep study! The students were
> never polled. The students are paying the price.
> Especially the middle school students who stand
> out in the dead of dark to await busses. This was
> another instance of certain school board members
> pushing through their personal agendas. The
> so-called community engagement was a sham.


same school board member........

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: very interesting link ()
Date: July 22, 2017 04:59PM

FOIA CAN BITE Wrote:
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> Our school board is elected on a non-partisan
> ballot. Sure, SB members are endorsed by parties,
> but once elected their Code of Conduct reads that
> they leave personal and special interests out of
> their deliberations. FOIA evidence shows Sandy
> Evans and Pat Hynes, in particular, have violated
> their oaths of office to be impartial as well as
> the special interest clause of the FCSB Code of
> Conduct.
>
> The issues behind the name change are far, far
> deeper. School Board members have usurped the
> voice of the Stuart Pyramid communities that
> rejected the name change and are forcing their
> personal political agenda on us. They aligned with
> the NAACP to help bully the students and
> communities into submission. The students are
> resolute. 90% of those surveyed reject a change.
> The community said NO. Respect them.
>
> The process used to deliberate a name change
> violated R. 8170.7, the renaming regulation. The
> terminology in the regulation is not defined and
> therefore can be manipulated to fit specific
> situations instead of providing guidance for all
> county schools. This is a HUGE defect and might
> even not pass judicial scrutiny.
>
> Read bullet point #18 on page 27…George Alber
> (NAACP) questions Kaufax doing her job…?
> Here's a link to the FOIA evidence.
> https://goo.gl/cserZN

Thanks for the link. Fascinating.
Shocking that they know the story of the school board naming the school out of spite as a part of "massive resistance" is a myth. I heard it repeated a number of times in the public testimony before SB meetings. I think I have even heard some SB members state it.
These members should look and see how many Virginia schools were already named after Confederate soldiers--long before the '50's.

"Collusion" is a popular term these days.
If anyone wants to see a definition of collusion, they should read the emails at the link you posted.

Now I understand why the SB members were backpedalling last week.

Love the part where Albers is upset that Koufax was questioning some issues--when she did not live in Mason district. Almost comical that it was also addressed to Hynes--who is also not in the Mason district.

Please note that Keys-Gamarra is on record as supporting names changes for Stuart, Lee and Woodson. Woodson is on there because of the myth that the NAACP created about Stuart and Lee being named out of spite.

Evans and Hynes both need to resign.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 22, 2017 09:51PM

Hynes mismanaged the issue during the entire process because of her bias and Evans created the divisive issue along with the NAACP and conspired with Hynes and McElveen all along the way to force the issue over the objections of a large majority of the Fairfax community. You might be right about the need for resignations.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/22/2017 09:52PM by Inquisitive One.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 22, 2017 10:50PM

very interesting link Wrote:
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> FOIA CAN BITE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Our school board is elected on a non-partisan
> > ballot. Sure, SB members are endorsed by
> parties,
> > but once elected their Code of Conduct reads
> that
> > they leave personal and special interests out
> of
> > their deliberations. FOIA evidence shows Sandy
> > Evans and Pat Hynes, in particular, have
> violated
> > their oaths of office to be impartial as well
> as
> > the special interest clause of the FCSB Code of
> > Conduct.
> >
> > The issues behind the name change are far, far
> > deeper. School Board members have usurped the
> > voice of the Stuart Pyramid communities that
> > rejected the name change and are forcing their
> > personal political agenda on us. They aligned
> with
> > the NAACP to help bully the students and
> > communities into submission. The students are
> > resolute. 90% of those surveyed reject a
> change.
> > The community said NO. Respect them.
> >
> > The process used to deliberate a name change
> > violated R. 8170.7, the renaming regulation.
> The
> > terminology in the regulation is not defined
> and
> > therefore can be manipulated to fit specific
> > situations instead of providing guidance for
> all
> > county schools. This is a HUGE defect and might
> > even not pass judicial scrutiny.
> >
> > Read bullet point #18 on page 27…George Alber
> > (NAACP) questions Kaufax doing her job…?
> > Here's a link to the FOIA evidence.
> > https://goo.gl/cserZN
>
> Thanks for the link. Fascinating.
> Shocking that they know the story of the school
> board naming the school out of spite as a part of
> "massive resistance" is a myth. I heard it
> repeated a number of times in the public testimony
> before SB meetings. I think I have even heard
> some SB members state it.
> These members should look and see how many
> Virginia schools were already named after
> Confederate soldiers--long before the '50's.
>
> "Collusion" is a popular term these days.
> If anyone wants to see a definition of collusion,
> they should read the emails at the link you
> posted.
>
> Now I understand why the SB members were
> backpedalling last week.
>
> Love the part where Albers is upset that Koufax
> was questioning some issues--when she did not live
> in Mason district. Almost comical that it was
> also addressed to Hynes--who is also not in the
> Mason district.
>
> Please note that Keys-Gamarra is on record as
> supporting names changes for Stuart, Lee and
> Woodson. Woodson is on there because of the myth
> that the NAACP created about Stuart and Lee being
> named out of spite.
>
> Evans and Hynes both need to resign.


The link of emails IS fascinating! If only Sandy Evans et al. devoted as much time to classroom performance as what they do to issues such as this we would not be worried about declining test scores. It also verifies the accusations that the School Board is distracted and is unfocused.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 23, 2017 12:10PM

There are two types of people who usually run for low level political offices. The first are narcissistic power hungry types who usually hope to use the office as a stepping stone to bigger things. The second are people who see problems with the way things are done and hope to make changes to make the system better. When you tell someone to check everything they were at the door when elected, you are going to be stuck with just the first type.

So rather than bitch that school board members are bringing their motivations into the office, look at what those motivations are. Sandy Evans. Like her predecessor she is motivated in part by the desire to make schools in her area an acceptable alternative to private school for select residents who live in certain affluent areas of her district. If it is important to that constituency, it is important to her. If not then she cannot be counted on, even when those affected live in her district.

One reason I do not like the rush nature of this surprise election is that we don't get the opportunity to get to know the candidates and what is motivating them to seek the office beyond what they are telling us. I've already said I wouldn't vote for Keys-Gamara. That is still true. However at least she is telling us that she intends to screw us over if elected and how. Allen has told us she is focused on minority students and is concerned with the role of SROs in schools. OK but what about some concrete proposals which you intend to introduce to deal with these general issues. Michael Owens says she is a straight speaker, but has been slow to tell us where she stands, especially important given that she is an unknown. Are we supposed to take from "it is our obligation to teach kids with special needs or limited English and we should do it right" that she intends to devote large additional amounts of money, money that would be obtained from raising taxes or from cutting educational programs which benefit other students? At least she has said where she stands on the Stuart renaming-yes to doing it as long as the money comes from outside sources. Which brings us to Chris Grisafe. Aside from being the electable alternative to Keys-Gamara this guy has told us relatively little. Given his previous work in getting school bonds approved it would be nice to know where he stands on school funding issues in the aftermath of the Meals Tax Vote.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 23, 2017 12:44PM

www.chrisgrisafe.com

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 23, 2017 12:59PM


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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: sam murey ()
Date: July 23, 2017 01:18PM

anyone affiliated with the NAACP, which today is nothing but a racial grievance group, and CASA, should NOT be a school board. The NAACP has supported Black Lies Matter, whose hateful rhetoric has led to the assassination of at least 11 police officers since last summer.
It's an absolute disgrace to have someone associated with the NAACP on a FCPS school board.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Vote America! ()
Date: August 22, 2017 10:36AM

play-e1500086267934.jpg?w=950

Michelle Owens now has a proper election / issues website. Michelle is from bmore md, has a web page development background, a mother, and is "politically un-affiliated".

http://owensfcps.com

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Vote America! ()
Date: August 22, 2017 05:33PM

Michelle also has a personal web page were some far left leaning jokes can be found (perhaps not written by her) - though does not wish politics to be an "issue".

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Vote America! ()
Date: August 22, 2017 05:47PM

Chris Grisafe is the only Republican candidate, although true to form of being a Southern Californian, is pretty far left for a Republican (for example, he is not making the school budget many say is too high, an issue).
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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: August 22, 2017 05:48PM

sam murey Wrote:
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> anyone affiliated with the NAACP, which today is
> nothing but a racial grievance group, and CASA,
> should NOT be a school board. The NAACP has
> supported Black Lies Matter, whose hateful
> rhetoric has led to the assassination of at least
> 11 police officers since last summer.
> It's an absolute disgrace to have someone
> associated with the NAACP on a FCPS school board.

This School Board has been far too political for a very long time which has resulted in a distracted and unfocused Board. The Keys-Gamarra addition would not only add more of a political element to the SB but it would radicalize it as well. Every issue will be tinged with the One Fairfax resolution and School system costs will soar.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: seems to me ()
Date: August 22, 2017 06:47PM

Vote America! Wrote:
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> Chris Grisafe is the only Republican candidate,
> although true to form of being a Southern
> Californian, is pretty far left for a Republican
> (for example, he is not making the school budget
> many say is too high, an issue).

Seems to me he is addressing the budget.

https://www.chrisgrisafe.com/budget

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Techteacher7384 ()
Date: August 27, 2017 06:43PM

Vote for Karen Keys Gamara!!! She is normal and is the only one who cares about kids.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: Stop spending ()
Date: August 27, 2017 07:10PM

Karen Keys-Gamarra is an insane borderline Antifa leftist...

She wants to change school names at a mere price of $1 million per school...

She is affiliated with the NAACP and CASA, 2 radical pressure groups who seek racial privilege and compensation.


Vote for a moderate.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: social justice ()
Date: August 27, 2017 07:38PM

Stop spending Wrote:
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> Karen Keys-Gamarra is an insane borderline Antifa
> leftist...
>
> She wants to change school names at a mere price
> of $1 million per school...
>
> She is affiliated with the NAACP and CASA, 2
> radical pressure groups who seek racial privilege
> and compensation.
>
>
> Vote for a moderate.

I am voting for Chris Grisafe. I do not like Keys-Gamarra's answers to questions, but I also do not like the name calling. I am sure she is a very nice woman and I am confident that she is not an "insane borderline Antifa leftist." I do think her views represent more concern for "social justice" than for instruction in the classroom. All students should be treated fairly and we already have policies in place for that.
I do not see how spending money on changing school names will help with the education of our children when there are so many other needs in our classroom.

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Re: Fairfax SPECIAL Elections Aug 29: here's your choices (special: due to retirement)
Posted by: mark j ()
Date: August 27, 2017 08:31PM

I vote the R straight ticket..never voted for a Dem in my life...not going to start now..

No way to the black woman...she is trouble in the making

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