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Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Jimmy J ()
Date: June 17, 2017 11:07PM

I've heard word of how awful the new principal at this school is. Apparently treats teachers like dirt and she wants to start her own system so she is running the old teachers out of the building. How can 30+ teachers quit and the county completely ignores it?

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: June 19, 2017 03:03PM

Jimmy J Wrote:
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> I've heard word of how awful the new principal at
> this school is. Apparently treats teachers like
> dirt and she wants to start her own system so she
> is running the old teachers out of the building.
> How can 30+ teachers quit and the county
> completely ignores it?


Obviously a bad case of PMS.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: cvej6 ()
Date: June 19, 2017 03:15PM

If you had the chance to leave, why wouldn't you. Over 50% of the Annandale Terrace students are classified as "English Learner" the new euphemism for students who are not proficient in English. Three quarters of the student population is on free and reduced lunches.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: school employee ()
Date: June 20, 2017 07:01AM

Principal is a fat, ignorant cunt. She only likes black teachers.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: ERIC PILSON ()
Date: June 20, 2017 07:12AM

People hate my mom. She can be a cunt.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: June 20, 2017 10:45AM

The better question might be why does a kindergarten through grade 5 school with around 720-750 kids have over 60 teacher/specialist positions and almost 20 instructional aides.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Answer Man ()
Date: June 20, 2017 12:12PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> The better question might be why does a
> kindergarten through grade 5 school with around
> 720-750 kids have over 60 teacher/specialist
> positions and almost 20 instructional aides.

It is a part of Sharon Boliva's bloated county bureaucracy that is filled with tons of wasted money. This is one of hundreds of examples all over the county.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: teacher 22151 ()
Date: June 20, 2017 04:59PM

Fuck that principal. She is an ignorant fuck.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Isthis real ()
Date: June 20, 2017 05:37PM

teacher 22151 Wrote:
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> Fuck that principal. She is an ignorant fuck.


OH please...don't tell me you are a teacher with that vocabulary.

Does anybody know if there is any truth to this.....?

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: PF7YV ()
Date: June 20, 2017 05:58PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> The better question might be why does a
> kindergarten through grade 5 school with around
> 720-750 kids have over 60 teacher/specialist
> positions and almost 20 instructional aides.


B I N G O !

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Stacy S ()
Date: June 20, 2017 07:07PM

I worked there for a year. Hard place to work, you try it. New principal is trying to fix what the last administration broke. It ain't easy. You try it.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Isthis real ()
Date: June 20, 2017 07:14PM

Stacy S Wrote:
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> I worked there for a year. Hard place to work, you
> try it. New principal is trying to fix what the
> last administration broke. It ain't easy. You try
> it.

Sorry for you Stacy, I can understand the frustration teachers have today in Fairfax County, tough and sometimes thankless job. Do you think this is true?

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: PE teacher ()
Date: June 20, 2017 07:43PM

No decent teacher would work there. The big losers are those poor kids. That principal needs to be fired.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Isthis real ()
Date: June 20, 2017 08:06PM

PE teacher Wrote:
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> No decent teacher would work there. The big losers
> are those poor kids. That principal needs to be
> fired.

Are you working there? Are close to that many teachers resigning?

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: PE teacher ()
Date: June 20, 2017 08:13PM

Isthis real Wrote:
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> PE teacher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No decent teacher would work there. The big
> losers
> > are those poor kids. That principal needs to be
> > fired.
>
> Are you working there? Are close to that many
> teachers resigning?


No but I know they are scrambling to find teachers. I talked to one of the teachers a few months ago and she could not wait to get out of there. She starts at a new school this coming year.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Isthis real ()
Date: June 20, 2017 08:15PM

PE teacher Wrote:
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> Isthis real Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > PE teacher Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > No decent teacher would work there. The big
> > losers
> > > are those poor kids. That principal needs to
> be
> > > fired.
> >
> > Are you working there? Are close to that many
> > teachers resigning?
>
>
> No but I know they are scrambling to find
> teachers. I talked to one of the teachers a few
> months ago and she could not wait to get out of
> there. She starts at a new school this coming
> year.

Thanks so much for responding. The new job...is it in Fairfax County...do you know?

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Lancelot Link ()
Date: June 21, 2017 01:21AM

Link to story?

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: June 21, 2017 02:34PM

Answer Man Wrote:
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> Bill.N. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The better question might be why does a
> > kindergarten through grade 5 school with around
> > 720-750 kids have over 60 teacher/specialist
> > positions and almost 20 instructional aides.
>
> It is a part of Sharon Boliva's bloated county
> bureaucracy that is filled with tons of wasted
> money. This is one of hundreds of examples all
> over the county.

It is easy to see this as simply wasted tax dollars. However it also could be looked at as a wasted opportunity as well.

With staffs that large, even after allowing for PE, music, art and band teachers, there is the potential to re-allocate staff so that they are teaching relatively small groups of students who have similar profiles and needs. That would allow teachers to use their time more efficiently and also make it more likely the students would be getting the instruction they need. For example a school such as Annandale Terrace with a large ESL population might benefit from having a self contained ESL Academy rather dealing with ESL in the more traditional manner.

Using resources more wisely should not be limited to how the school system spends its money. It should also include how it allocates and uses the educational resources it is paying for.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Agreed ()
Date: June 21, 2017 09:36PM

They have the same issue at the sister school Braddock Elementary. Many teachers leave every year because of the principal. Really doesn't make the teachers feel like they are capable/smart. Coming from experience. I left after a year.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Tipped off ()
Date: June 21, 2017 09:37PM

I heard there are now 167 teachers leaving Annandale terrace!!

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: June 21, 2017 10:52PM

Are they transferring within fcps or are they leaving the County?

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Jackie Gleason ()
Date: June 21, 2017 11:06PM

I hear, I worked there, I saw, I heard Yea I believe you??

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: ROC ()
Date: June 21, 2017 11:57PM

Korea Town
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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Tough population ()
Date: June 22, 2017 09:48AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> The better question might be why does a
> kindergarten through grade 5 school with around
> 720-750 kids have over 60 teacher/specialist
> positions and almost 20 instructional aides.


76% of kids are on free/reduced lunch. Over half receive ELL services. Only 10% White kids. That's why you need so many specialists, these kids are way behind the curve. And for those of you living in your ivory towers saying "they're all illegals", the school has no control over that whatsoever. If the kid shows up, they have to educate them.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: June 22, 2017 03:27PM

Please show me where in either of my comments that I mentioned illegals or children of parents who are here illegally. That is a conclusion that you jumped to.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Fellow Teacher ()
Date: June 22, 2017 06:08PM

Any school that has this kind of turnaround has some serious issues which likely can be traced to administration. Obvious administration difficulties aside, the bigger question is how could higher level administrators like superintendents
A. Not know that these problems were happening
B. Allowing these problems to happen

Upper level administrators at FCPS make a ton of dough for the field and should be providing a level of competence on par with that. Actually speaking with staff or confidential surveys via scantron for anonymity would likely have helped prevent this.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Bob der Baumeister ()
Date: June 22, 2017 06:50PM

It's been a shitty school for over 40 years, and has been the primary source for derelicts at Poe and Annandale HS for decades.

I know someone with incredible patience who substituted there in the early 70s.....once. One and done. Terrible school.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: teach 4 u 2 ()
Date: June 22, 2017 08:02PM

The kids are not the problem, the horrific principal is the problem!

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: June 23, 2017 12:28AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Answer Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bill.N. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The better question might be why does a
> > > kindergarten through grade 5 school with
> around
> > > 720-750 kids have over 60 teacher/specialist
> > > positions and almost 20 instructional aides.
> >
> > It is a part of Sharon Boliva's bloated county
> > bureaucracy that is filled with tons of wasted
> > money. This is one of hundreds of examples all
> > over the county.
>
> It is easy to see this as simply wasted tax
> dollars. However it also could be looked at as a
> wasted opportunity as well.
>
> With staffs that large, even after allowing for
> PE, music, art and band teachers, there is the
> potential to re-allocate staff so that they are
> teaching relatively small groups of students who
> have similar profiles and needs. That would allow
> teachers to use their time more efficiently and
> also make it more likely the students would be
> getting the instruction they need. For example a
> school such as Annandale Terrace with a large ESL
> population might benefit from having a self
> contained ESL Academy rather dealing with ESL in
> the more traditional manner.
>
> Using resources more wisely should not be limited
> to how the school system spends its money. It
> should also include how it allocates and uses the
> educational resources it is paying for.


logic - lost in bureaucracy

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Plato ()
Date: June 23, 2017 01:39AM

Logic? I see no documented proof of wrongdoing other then your bias opinions.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Aristotle ()
Date: June 23, 2017 11:09AM

There is a big difference between "no wrongdoing" and doing what is best.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: metalhead ()
Date: June 24, 2017 09:54AM

Tough population Wrote:
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> Bill.N. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The better question might be why does a
> > kindergarten through grade 5 school with around
> > 720-750 kids have over 60 teacher/specialist
> > positions and almost 20 instructional aides.
>
>
> 76% of kids are on free/reduced lunch. Over half
> receive ELL services. Only 10% White kids. That's
> why you need so many specialists, these kids are
> way behind the curve. And for those of you living
> in your ivory towers saying "they're all
> illegals", the school has no control over that
> whatsoever. If the kid shows up, they have to
> educate them.

I get that they have to accept the students due to the 5-4 supreme Court ruling in the 80s. but the schools can certainly inform ICE of their dire situation... something has got to give, because fcps is starting to resemble the LA unified school district, which is the absolute worst public school system in the country...

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: held up for jello ()
Date: June 24, 2017 10:12AM

I heard the principal is one of those angry nigger bitches. Does anyone know for sure if this is true?

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: ATES ()
Date: June 24, 2017 10:17PM

I'm glad they have a shit kicker in there to get rid of those fucked up teachers especially that troglodyte AP Ms. Vaughan. If you want to make big change you have to kick about bunch teeth in. All of these wieners complaining are a bunch of spineless ass pussies.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Frog Man ()
Date: June 25, 2017 12:30AM

There's outrage about the new principal who is trying to clean up a failing school and teachers are pissed and leaving. Maybe it's because she wants them to work hard and teach the students? I live in the neighborhood and I've noticed a big difference since she's arrived. The outside of the school looks a lot better and there's been family activities that are well attended. She might be a bitch, but she's a bitch whose making the school better for the students. Over the years the school has become run down. It looks like she's cleaning it up. That's the type of principal this school needs.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: jerry- ()
Date: June 25, 2017 05:01AM

The way things look right now they will be starting the school year with at least 10 substitute teachers and maybe more. Nobody wants to work for that bitch.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Maga ()
Date: June 25, 2017 09:17AM

Draining the swamp. The deep state fights back!

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: teacher 22151 ()
Date: June 25, 2017 12:46PM

Maga Wrote:
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> Draining the swamp. The deep state fights back!


Two of the teachers were picked up by Montgomery county for more money and 11 others moved to Fairfax county schools that have a decent principal.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: PeterPoontang ()
Date: June 25, 2017 06:04PM

teacher 22151 Wrote:
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> Maga Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Draining the swamp. The deep state fights
> back!
>
>
> Two of the teachers were picked up by Montgomery
> county for more money and 11 others moved to
>

Peter Principle in effect. Often times in govt or union bureaucracies, it takes promoting an incompetent just to get them out of your dept.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: unxul ()
Date: June 25, 2017 10:05PM


SHE'S ALREADY FIRED

only one of those employees needs to prove there was no legitimate reason for firing and the bitch is doing racial OR mass firings

the prospect of firing for no reason to gain politically or racially is ...

THEFT FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND OTHER EMPLOYEES EXCEEDING $50,000

THAT'S PRISON TIME



she's likely hiring communists to fund a hostile takeover (asssuming she's an illegal which in fx co is a good bet)

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: lmncy ()
Date: June 25, 2017 10:06PM

if she's getting rid of obama hires thank goodness - but i doubt that's what's going on

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: ykudn ()
Date: June 25, 2017 10:09PM



Furthermore fx co gov has proven to become involved in lawsuits where employees INTENTLY cause other employees to sue, huge awards are gifted**

it could well be an illegal setting up a mass lawsuit. the illegal would no doubt then be hired by fx co gov after the lawsuit to a sweet job or take money under the table

whatever the fuck is going on you can bet it isn't cleaning




** this was called illegal by usa supreme court because democrats had hugely abused it and they were litterally forced to stop it - though they are a democrat court

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: 1 POed Tax Payer ()
Date: June 26, 2017 12:23PM

FF gov. has a lot to be desired these days. Sad that it is going down hill in certain departments.

The ESL thing is out of control and proving to be an impediment to education as a whole. it is directly related to the lack of order provided by the Federal Government.

Our tax dollars going to agendas which hinder rather than bolster education and to an entire host of other nonsensical agendas.

The dumbing down, weakening and bankrupting of America is "alive and well".

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: June 26, 2017 01:20PM

And the way to address those problems isn't to slash spending to the bone, and blame everything on the illegal alien boogeymen. The way to address it is to demand that our schools be organized around the needs of the students attending them, and that our school administration provide the community with adequate educational returns for the amounts that we the taxpayers are currently investing in the system.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Schultz Springfield ()
Date: June 26, 2017 01:35PM

Gee Thanks Bill N.
That is so nicely put. But your idea of demanding real results from incompetence is quite interesting.

Unless what is wrong is fixed first, the same problems will continue and money will not be wisely spent, rather it will be wasted.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: school nurse ()
Date: June 26, 2017 08:34PM

The teachers are fed up with the bullshit. Trying to teach when one third of the class cannot speak decent conversational English makes for bad SOL scores. They get the blame for the SOL's and say "Fuck it" and I don't blame them.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Dee ()
Date: July 05, 2017 04:47PM

There is no checks and balances with this illegal immigrant crisis.

The courts rule that the school system must educate the students without regard to status. And the courts have also ruled that the schools must provide services for handicapped and mentally disabled students. So families from outside the area and outside the country flock to wealthy metro areas like FC to enroll their kids into these programs.

Is it a path filled with good intentions but with huge financial costs. What really irritates me is that the school systems will not disclose the residency status of their students. What % are illegal in their schools. Should the FC taxpayer know??

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: illegals? ()
Date: July 05, 2017 07:13PM

As a person going through the adoption process, its difficult to define illegal, especially with children...it can be. We are still organizing documents and getting the appropriate ones filed, so on so forth. Esl/esol/ell does not equate to something being illegal.
Because people like us exist, those adopting and becoming guardians to the children of other countries...defining these children all as illegal is not of necessity, true.
FCPS is making cuts also in the ESOL program...not to mention that some of these teachers may not be able to handle the student population as well as the abilities to make connections.
All public schools and its communities have a lot of work to do towards our views on students from other countries as well as the insidious racism in the northern Virginia communities.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Anonanon ()
Date: June 21, 2018 07:26AM

I heard from a friend that there was another huge turnover at Annandale Terrace this year. Many leaving because of the administration.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Who cares? ()
Date: June 21, 2018 08:55AM

Wahhhhh wahhhhh

Teachers are always bitching!
Why did you choose a shitty career?

Wahhhhh
Wahhhhh

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: Frankly Speaking ()
Date: July 01, 2018 12:41AM

I work there and most people are returning. Some of the people leaving hate the principal for the sake of hating her. It was a good year and next year will be better. Mrs. Pilson is real leader. She’s supportive, cares about kids, cares about the teachers, she’s funny and honest. I’d follow her anywhere! So long to the complainers and principal hatters. Those of us returning are glad to see you leave.

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: custodian1 ()
Date: July 01, 2018 06:10AM

They made a video about this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpQE7dQZ-as

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: HMFXF ()
Date: July 01, 2018 10:53AM

illegals? Wrote:
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> As a person going through the adoption process,
> its difficult to define illegal, especially with
> children...it can be. We are still organizing
> documents and getting the appropriate ones filed,
> so on so forth. Esl/esol/ell does not equate to
> something being illegal.

You are hilarious!

You have adoption papers, right?
That's all you need to prove that the kid is a citizen.
But more to the point: Since the school is not even allowed to ASK if
the kid is a legal citizen, you must be talking about totally different
kinds of documentation. None of the people (several single moms)
that I happen to know who adopted Russian* babies and kids had any trouble.
They were all brain-damaged special needs-forever kids, by the way.
So I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. You make no sense.

So do your foreign-born kids need special diets for their free school lunch?


*OMG RUSSIA !?!?!!

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Re: Over 30+ teachers leaving Annandale Terrace Elementary... How is this not being looked into?
Posted by: More than care about you ()
Date: July 01, 2018 12:51PM

Who cares? Wrote:
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> Wahhhhh wahhhhh
>
> Teachers are always bitching!
> Why did you choose a shitty career?
>
> Wahhhhh
> Wahhhhh


STFU. If it was not for people like teachers who are willing to do shitty jobs we would have to do them ourselves. Then you would rapidly learn that the people who do shitty jobs are far better at them than you are. If we axed your Very Important Job, chances are that nobody would even notice.

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