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FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
FIRE ZORN
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Date: September 28, 2009 10:13AM
Jim Zorn needs to be immediately fired. His play calling is the WORST in the NFL, and along with Zorn, Vinny Cerrato needs to be shown the door. Dan Snyder would be smart to bring in Cowher or Shanahan, and let them run EVERYTHING. If he doesn't fire Zorn and Cerrato(Yes its a package deal), then the Redskins will continue their misery on and off the field.
Get it done Danny, before its too late.
Get it done Danny, before its too late.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Johnny Walker
()
Date: September 28, 2009 10:46AM
Problem is, no one wants to come here to work for him.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Walter
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Date: September 28, 2009 10:50AM
This is a three tiered problem folks. The first and second parts of this forum are correct. If Snyder's going to keep the Skins, which he obviously will do unless armaggedon happens, he needs to step away completely. He needs to sit in his luxury box, and sip on Martinis, while someone like those two coaches is given complete reigns to the franchise. Vinny's just a stopgap, kiss ass for Snyder. Keep him as the coffee fetcher, but let a pro have the team control completely.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 28, 2009 10:51AM
FIRE ZORN Wrote:
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> Jim Zorn needs to be immediately fired. His play
> calling is the WORST in the NFL, and along with
> Zorn, Vinny Cerrato needs to be shown the door.
> Dan Snyder would be smart to bring in Cowher or
> Shanahan, and let them run EVERYTHING. If he
> doesn't fire Zorn and Cerrato(Yes its a package
> deal), then the Redskins will continue their
> misery on and off the field.
>
>
> Get it done Danny, before its too late.
Danny will never give up the reigns. If he wouldn't do it for Joe Gibbs, probably the only coach he ever really admired, he won't do it for Cowher or Shanahan.
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> Jim Zorn needs to be immediately fired. His play
> calling is the WORST in the NFL, and along with
> Zorn, Vinny Cerrato needs to be shown the door.
> Dan Snyder would be smart to bring in Cowher or
> Shanahan, and let them run EVERYTHING. If he
> doesn't fire Zorn and Cerrato(Yes its a package
> deal), then the Redskins will continue their
> misery on and off the field.
>
>
> Get it done Danny, before its too late.
Danny will never give up the reigns. If he wouldn't do it for Joe Gibbs, probably the only coach he ever really admired, he won't do it for Cowher or Shanahan.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
rj
()
Date: September 28, 2009 10:51AM
Collins would make him look good... Campbell is the real problem.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: September 28, 2009 10:58AM
rj Wrote:
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> Collins would make him look good... Campbell is
> the real problem.
The problem with Campbell is that he is too conservative, but when he does try to open things up, he makes some real bone-headed throws (like throwing into quadruple coverage on Kelly that one time).
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> Collins would make him look good... Campbell is
> the real problem.
The problem with Campbell is that he is too conservative, but when he does try to open things up, he makes some real bone-headed throws (like throwing into quadruple coverage on Kelly that one time).
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
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Date: September 28, 2009 11:02AM
Campbell is definitely a problem, but why?
My answer is because of this bizarre policy the Skins have a drafting a QB in the first round, then forcing him to sit out for at least 1-2 seasons, just long enough to completely lose their mojo.
Eli played his first year and he seems to be doing pretty damn good, in fact he has a fucking Super Bowl ring.
Sanchez is doing fine and his team is 3-0.
Phillip Rivers is doing fine and so is Cutler and now Stafford has a win.
Jamarcus Russell was a 1rst round pick and he sat for 2 seasons. He is a total bust now.
Jason Campbell might have had possibilities, but he sat there for 1-2 years on the sideline and lost it. Same with Colt Brennan and will probably happen to Chase Daniels too.
My answer is because of this bizarre policy the Skins have a drafting a QB in the first round, then forcing him to sit out for at least 1-2 seasons, just long enough to completely lose their mojo.
Eli played his first year and he seems to be doing pretty damn good, in fact he has a fucking Super Bowl ring.
Sanchez is doing fine and his team is 3-0.
Phillip Rivers is doing fine and so is Cutler and now Stafford has a win.
Jamarcus Russell was a 1rst round pick and he sat for 2 seasons. He is a total bust now.
Jason Campbell might have had possibilities, but he sat there for 1-2 years on the sideline and lost it. Same with Colt Brennan and will probably happen to Chase Daniels too.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 28, 2009 11:05AM
Campbell is a problem because he is using the West Coast Offense when he is a traditional pocket passer. Instead of seeing how his receivers are getting off the line and then using timing routes, he stands back looking for a receiver to come open. That's not how the West Coast Offense works. The QB has to trust that his receiver with be at spot "A" by X-amount of time and then throw to that spot.
When Campbell got picked yesterday, he kept his eyes on Sellers the entire time. No wonder so many guys were jumping in front of passes.
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When Campbell got picked yesterday, he kept his eyes on Sellers the entire time. No wonder so many guys were jumping in front of passes.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: September 28, 2009 02:34PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> Campbell is definitely a problem, but why?
>
> My answer is because of this bizarre policy the
> Skins have a drafting a QB in the first round,
> then forcing him to sit out for at least 1-2
> seasons, just long enough to completely lose their
> mojo.
>
> Eli played his first year and he seems to be doing
> pretty damn good, in fact he has a fucking Super
> Bowl ring.
>
> Sanchez is doing fine and his team is 3-0.
>
> Phillip Rivers is doing fine and so is Cutler and
> now Stafford has a win.
>
> Jamarcus Russell was a 1rst round pick and he sat
> for 2 seasons. He is a total bust now.
>
> Jason Campbell might have had possibilities, but
> he sat there for 1-2 years on the sideline and
> lost it. Same with Colt Brennan and will probably
> happen to Chase Daniels too.
Yea but the most winning qb of the decade is Tom Brady, and his ass was parked on the bench as a fourth string qb for awhile. If you got it, you got it. Jcamb just isn't developing like he should. He is hesitant in the pocket, scared to run like he did in college.
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> Campbell is definitely a problem, but why?
>
> My answer is because of this bizarre policy the
> Skins have a drafting a QB in the first round,
> then forcing him to sit out for at least 1-2
> seasons, just long enough to completely lose their
> mojo.
>
> Eli played his first year and he seems to be doing
> pretty damn good, in fact he has a fucking Super
> Bowl ring.
>
> Sanchez is doing fine and his team is 3-0.
>
> Phillip Rivers is doing fine and so is Cutler and
> now Stafford has a win.
>
> Jamarcus Russell was a 1rst round pick and he sat
> for 2 seasons. He is a total bust now.
>
> Jason Campbell might have had possibilities, but
> he sat there for 1-2 years on the sideline and
> lost it. Same with Colt Brennan and will probably
> happen to Chase Daniels too.
Yea but the most winning qb of the decade is Tom Brady, and his ass was parked on the bench as a fourth string qb for awhile. If you got it, you got it. Jcamb just isn't developing like he should. He is hesitant in the pocket, scared to run like he did in college.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 28, 2009 02:45PM
TefD187 Wrote:
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>
>
> Yea but the most winning qb of the decade is Tom
> Brady, and his ass was parked on the bench as a
> fourth string qb for awhile. If you got it, you
> got it. Jcamb just isn't developing like he
> should. He is hesitant in the pocket, scared to
> run like he did in college.
Part of the problem is expectations. How many Tom Bradys are there?
Most teams have Campbells. Is Kerry Collins in Tennessee any better than Campbell? Chad Pennington? Jay Cutler? Shaun Hill? Marc Bulger? Byron Leftwich? Trent Edwards? David Gerrard?
Very rarely does a QB end up being "a Tom Brady."
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>
>
> Yea but the most winning qb of the decade is Tom
> Brady, and his ass was parked on the bench as a
> fourth string qb for awhile. If you got it, you
> got it. Jcamb just isn't developing like he
> should. He is hesitant in the pocket, scared to
> run like he did in college.
Part of the problem is expectations. How many Tom Bradys are there?
Most teams have Campbells. Is Kerry Collins in Tennessee any better than Campbell? Chad Pennington? Jay Cutler? Shaun Hill? Marc Bulger? Byron Leftwich? Trent Edwards? David Gerrard?
Very rarely does a QB end up being "a Tom Brady."
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
QB
()
Date: September 28, 2009 02:50PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> TefD187 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> >
> > Yea but the most winning qb of the decade is
> Tom
> > Brady, and his ass was parked on the bench as a
> > fourth string qb for awhile. If you got it,
> you
> > got it. Jcamb just isn't developing like he
> > should. He is hesitant in the pocket, scared to
> > run like he did in college.
>
>
> Part of the problem is expectations. How many Tom
> Bradys are there?
>
> Most teams have Campbells. Is Kerry Collins in
> Tennessee any better than Campbell?
at this stage in his career, on par with Campbell
> Chad Pennington?
Better decision making skills than Campbell.
> Jay Cutler?
Not even in the same category as Campbell. He is much closer to Brady, Manning Brees types than Campbell type.
> Shaun Hill? Marc Bulger?
> Byron Leftwich? Trent Edwards? David Gerrard?
These are more like JC.
> Very rarely does a QB end up being "a Tom Brady."
Very true.
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> TefD187 Wrote:
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> -----
>
> >
> >
> > Yea but the most winning qb of the decade is
> Tom
> > Brady, and his ass was parked on the bench as a
> > fourth string qb for awhile. If you got it,
> you
> > got it. Jcamb just isn't developing like he
> > should. He is hesitant in the pocket, scared to
> > run like he did in college.
>
>
> Part of the problem is expectations. How many Tom
> Bradys are there?
>
> Most teams have Campbells. Is Kerry Collins in
> Tennessee any better than Campbell?
at this stage in his career, on par with Campbell
> Chad Pennington?
Better decision making skills than Campbell.
> Jay Cutler?
Not even in the same category as Campbell. He is much closer to Brady, Manning Brees types than Campbell type.
> Shaun Hill? Marc Bulger?
> Byron Leftwich? Trent Edwards? David Gerrard?
These are more like JC.
> Very rarely does a QB end up being "a Tom Brady."
Very true.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 28, 2009 03:03PM
Jay Cutler is way over-rated. So is Tony Romo.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
QB
()
Date: September 28, 2009 03:12PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Jay Cutler is way over-rated. So is Tony Romo.
Yes on romo, but compared to where Cutler is in his career (3rd full year as a starter), he is comparable to Brady and Manning. I am not saying he will equal thier careers, but he has proven as able as either of those QBs if you look at each of their first three years as a starter. Take out the horrific GB game, he is getting it done this year without a clear #1 WR.
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> Jay Cutler is way over-rated. So is Tony Romo.
Yes on romo, but compared to where Cutler is in his career (3rd full year as a starter), he is comparable to Brady and Manning. I am not saying he will equal thier careers, but he has proven as able as either of those QBs if you look at each of their first three years as a starter. Take out the horrific GB game, he is getting it done this year without a clear #1 WR.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
wbva3fan
()
Date: September 28, 2009 03:55PM
Don't fire Zorn. He is nice man. He is trying hard. This means he wants to win.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 29, 2009 10:51AM
Thought this was an interesting article on the Zorn situation.
http://www.warpathconfidential.com/?p=1382
http://www.warpathconfidential.com/?p=1382
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 29, 2009 10:58AM
More Complete Wrote:
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> Thought this was an interesting article on the
> Zorn situation.
>
> http://www.warpathconfidential.com/?p=1382
My only disagreement is that it isn't "the house that Joe built." I don't think "Joe" wanted Campbell, Portis, Betts or about half the guys who are still on the team. This is the house that Danny and Vinny built...and who no one can coach.
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> Thought this was an interesting article on the
> Zorn situation.
>
> http://www.warpathconfidential.com/?p=1382
My only disagreement is that it isn't "the house that Joe built." I don't think "Joe" wanted Campbell, Portis, Betts or about half the guys who are still on the team. This is the house that Danny and Vinny built...and who no one can coach.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
auburn
()
Date: September 29, 2009 11:02AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> More Complete Wrote:
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> > Thought this was an interesting article on the
> > Zorn situation.
> >
> > http://www.warpathconfidential.com/?p=1382
>
>
> My only disagreement is that it isn't "the house
> that Joe built." I don't think "Joe" wanted
> Campbell, Portis, Betts or about half the guys who
> are still on the team. This is the house that
> Danny and Vinny built...and who no one can coach.
Gibbs definitely wanted Campbell. It is well known that he fell head over heals for him when scouting Rogers.
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> More Complete Wrote:
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> > Thought this was an interesting article on the
> > Zorn situation.
> >
> > http://www.warpathconfidential.com/?p=1382
>
>
> My only disagreement is that it isn't "the house
> that Joe built." I don't think "Joe" wanted
> Campbell, Portis, Betts or about half the guys who
> are still on the team. This is the house that
> Danny and Vinny built...and who no one can coach.
Gibbs definitely wanted Campbell. It is well known that he fell head over heals for him when scouting Rogers.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 29, 2009 11:34AM
auburn Wrote:
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>
> Gibbs definitely wanted Campbell. It is well
> known that he fell head over heals for him when
> scouting Rogers.
I don't know about that. Gibbs had a reputation for preferring veterans over drafting rookies in the QB position (see Theismann, Williams, Rypien, Brunell). He may have liked Campbell personally, but I don't doubt the decision to pick a QB in the draft was driven by Snyder and Vinny. I didn't exactly see Gibbs hot and heavy to play Campbell even in instances where it was obvious Brunell wasn't doing the job.
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>
> Gibbs definitely wanted Campbell. It is well
> known that he fell head over heals for him when
> scouting Rogers.
I don't know about that. Gibbs had a reputation for preferring veterans over drafting rookies in the QB position (see Theismann, Williams, Rypien, Brunell). He may have liked Campbell personally, but I don't doubt the decision to pick a QB in the draft was driven by Snyder and Vinny. I didn't exactly see Gibbs hot and heavy to play Campbell even in instances where it was obvious Brunell wasn't doing the job.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
auburn
()
Date: September 29, 2009 11:56AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> auburn Wrote:
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>
> >
> > Gibbs definitely wanted Campbell. It is well
> > known that he fell head over heals for him when
> > scouting Rogers.
>
>
> I don't know about that. Gibbs had a reputation
> for preferring veterans over drafting rookies in
> the QB position (see Theismann, Williams, Rypien,
> Brunell). He may have liked Campbell personally,
> but I don't doubt the decision to pick a QB in the
> draft was driven by Snyder and Vinny. I didn't
> exactly see Gibbs hot and heavy to play Campbell
> even in instances where it was obvious Brunell
> wasn't doing the job.
I agree on the veteran thing. I think Gibbs thougt he could get Brunell to last a bit longer when he went ofter Campbell in the draft I don't think it was his intention to start Campbell so soon. I think he would have preferred to start Campbell in 2008 after grooming him for a few years the way he groomed Theismann for four years behind Kilmer.
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> auburn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Gibbs definitely wanted Campbell. It is well
> > known that he fell head over heals for him when
> > scouting Rogers.
>
>
> I don't know about that. Gibbs had a reputation
> for preferring veterans over drafting rookies in
> the QB position (see Theismann, Williams, Rypien,
> Brunell). He may have liked Campbell personally,
> but I don't doubt the decision to pick a QB in the
> draft was driven by Snyder and Vinny. I didn't
> exactly see Gibbs hot and heavy to play Campbell
> even in instances where it was obvious Brunell
> wasn't doing the job.
I agree on the veteran thing. I think Gibbs thougt he could get Brunell to last a bit longer when he went ofter Campbell in the draft I don't think it was his intention to start Campbell so soon. I think he would have preferred to start Campbell in 2008 after grooming him for a few years the way he groomed Theismann for four years behind Kilmer.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 29, 2009 12:05PM
auburn Wrote:
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I think he would have preferred to start
> Campbell in 2008 after grooming him for a few
> years the way he groomed Theismann for four years
> behind Kilmer.
You call it "Grooming", I call it wasting away. Theismann should have been playing earlier on. Sonny and Billy were pretty old and slow at that stage and both treated Joe pretty bad.
I think Joe would have been great then and would have probably won another Superbowl if he had not busted his leg up.
People like to use Brady as an example of sitting on the sideline for several years, but he was a 6th round pick and no one had ANY hope for him and so there was no need to put him in until tragedy struck.
I think any 1rst round pick should be thrown directly into the fire on their first year, unless you already have an amazing QB in place.
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I think he would have preferred to start
> Campbell in 2008 after grooming him for a few
> years the way he groomed Theismann for four years
> behind Kilmer.
You call it "Grooming", I call it wasting away. Theismann should have been playing earlier on. Sonny and Billy were pretty old and slow at that stage and both treated Joe pretty bad.
I think Joe would have been great then and would have probably won another Superbowl if he had not busted his leg up.
People like to use Brady as an example of sitting on the sideline for several years, but he was a 6th round pick and no one had ANY hope for him and so there was no need to put him in until tragedy struck.
I think any 1rst round pick should be thrown directly into the fire on their first year, unless you already have an amazing QB in place.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 29, 2009 12:06PM
auburn Wrote:
I think he would have preferred to start
> Campbell in 2008 after grooming him for a few
> years the way he groomed Theismann for four years
> behind Kilmer.
Which reinforces the conventional wisdom that Danny Boy asked Gibbs to leave before his contract was up. LeVar Arrington referred to the rumors around the Gibbs situation as the reason why Danny Boy couldn't find a coach and had to hire Zorn.
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I think he would have preferred to start
> Campbell in 2008 after grooming him for a few
> years the way he groomed Theismann for four years
> behind Kilmer.
Which reinforces the conventional wisdom that Danny Boy asked Gibbs to leave before his contract was up. LeVar Arrington referred to the rumors around the Gibbs situation as the reason why Danny Boy couldn't find a coach and had to hire Zorn.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 29, 2009 12:08PM
Numbers Wrote:
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>
> I think any 1rst round pick should be thrown
> directly into the fire on their first year, unless
> you already have an amazing QB in place.
Yes and no. I think if the team has a solid O-Line and running game then, yes. But as we saw with Patrick Ramsey and David Carr, throwing a rookie QB into a situation where they are doomed to fail no matter what doesn't help the QB's development. Not to say that Ramsey or Carr would have been great QBs. But I definitely think it stunted their careers.
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>
> I think any 1rst round pick should be thrown
> directly into the fire on their first year, unless
> you already have an amazing QB in place.
Yes and no. I think if the team has a solid O-Line and running game then, yes. But as we saw with Patrick Ramsey and David Carr, throwing a rookie QB into a situation where they are doomed to fail no matter what doesn't help the QB's development. Not to say that Ramsey or Carr would have been great QBs. But I definitely think it stunted their careers.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 29, 2009 12:11PM
Ramsey doesn't count. He was a sitting duck. That guy was slower than Sonny on his worst day or Kilmer on quaaludes.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
qb
()
Date: September 29, 2009 12:14PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> auburn Wrote:
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> I think he would have preferred to start
> > Campbell in 2008 after grooming him for a few
> > years the way he groomed Theismann for four
> years
> > behind Kilmer.
>
>
> You call it "Grooming", I call it wasting away.
> Theismann should have been playing earlier on.
> Sonny and Billy were pretty old and slow at that
> stage and both treated Joe pretty bad.
> I think Joe would have been great then and would
> have probably won another Superbowl if he had not
> busted his leg up.
>
> People like to use Brady as an example of sitting
> on the sideline for several years, but he was a
> 6th round pick and no one had ANY hope for him and
> so there was no need to put him in until tragedy
> struck.
>
> I think any 1rst round pick should be thrown
> directly into the fire on their first year, unless
> you already have an amazing QB in place.
case in point Aaron Rodgers. Speaking of Rodgers, look at the 2005 draft. Alex Smith drafted #1 overall - a huge BUST so far. Aaron Rodgers at #24 -groomed behind Favre and does pretty well. #25 was Campbell - we all know how that has panned out.
Grooming looks to be the best for the '05 draft at least. In the '06 draft, Eli sat behind Warner for a year and Rivers sat behind Brees for three.
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> auburn Wrote:
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> I think he would have preferred to start
> > Campbell in 2008 after grooming him for a few
> > years the way he groomed Theismann for four
> years
> > behind Kilmer.
>
>
> You call it "Grooming", I call it wasting away.
> Theismann should have been playing earlier on.
> Sonny and Billy were pretty old and slow at that
> stage and both treated Joe pretty bad.
> I think Joe would have been great then and would
> have probably won another Superbowl if he had not
> busted his leg up.
>
> People like to use Brady as an example of sitting
> on the sideline for several years, but he was a
> 6th round pick and no one had ANY hope for him and
> so there was no need to put him in until tragedy
> struck.
>
> I think any 1rst round pick should be thrown
> directly into the fire on their first year, unless
> you already have an amazing QB in place.
case in point Aaron Rodgers. Speaking of Rodgers, look at the 2005 draft. Alex Smith drafted #1 overall - a huge BUST so far. Aaron Rodgers at #24 -groomed behind Favre and does pretty well. #25 was Campbell - we all know how that has panned out.
Grooming looks to be the best for the '05 draft at least. In the '06 draft, Eli sat behind Warner for a year and Rivers sat behind Brees for three.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 29, 2009 12:17PM
qb Wrote:
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In the '06 draft, Eli sat behind Warner for
> a year
Wrong. Eli played his first year.
> and Rivers sat behind Brees for three.
Wrong again. Rivers played immediately.
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In the '06 draft, Eli sat behind Warner for
> a year
Wrong. Eli played his first year.
> and Rivers sat behind Brees for three.
Wrong again. Rivers played immediately.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
qb
()
Date: September 29, 2009 12:25PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> qb Wrote:
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> In the '06 draft, Eli sat behind Warner for
> > a year
>
> Wrong. Eli played his first year.
He played, but Warner started the first 10 games for the Giants.
> > and Rivers sat behind Brees for three.
>
> Wrong again. Rivers played immediately.
from wiki:
In August 2004, Rivers signed a six-year, $40.5 million contract with the San Diego Chargers that included $14.5 million in signing bonuses. However, due to a protracted contract negotiation with the San Diego Chargers, Rivers reported to the team during the last week of training camp. As a result, the Chargers gave incumbent quarterback Drew Brees the opportunity to retain his starting job at the beginning of the season. With almost no training camp time under his belt, Rivers was unable to wrest the starting position from Drew Brees during the 2004 preseason. Rivers began the season as the Chargers' third QB option, behind Doug Flutie, but ahead of the #4 QB Cleo Lemon. Lemon was a quarterback at Arkansas State and played against Rivers in Rivers' first collegiate game. Unfortunately for Rivers, Brees went on to have by far the best season of his career up to that point. By the end of the season, Drew Brees was named to the NFL Pro Bowl and won the NFL Comeback Player of the Year Award. Rivers received very limited playing time in the 2004 season, playing in only two games. He only threw passes in the second half of the last game of the 2004 season (a win over Kansas City), by which time the Chargers had already clinched a home playoff spot and the AFC West division title.
2005
Rivers was promoted to the #2 on the quarterback depth chart after the Chargers released Doug Flutie, who later signed with the New England Patriots.
Rivers was unable to beat out Drew Brees for the starting quarterback job in the Chargers' 2005 training camp and preseason, thus remaining the backup QB. In the Chargers' final game of the 2005 season, at home in Qualcomm Stadium, Rivers entered the game after Brees dislocated his right shoulder late in the second quarter due to a hit from Denver Broncos safety John Lynch. Rivers completed 12 of 22 passing attempts for 115 yards with one interception and two fumbles. The Chargers lost to Denver, 20–7. However, Rivers led the Chargers on their only scoring drive that game, which culminated in a 4-yard TD run by RB LaDainian Tomlinson.
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Played? Yes. Significant time? Hardly.
Sorry to prove you wrong in a public forum
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> In the '06 draft, Eli sat behind Warner for
> > a year
>
> Wrong. Eli played his first year.
He played, but Warner started the first 10 games for the Giants.
> > and Rivers sat behind Brees for three.
>
> Wrong again. Rivers played immediately.
from wiki:
In August 2004, Rivers signed a six-year, $40.5 million contract with the San Diego Chargers that included $14.5 million in signing bonuses. However, due to a protracted contract negotiation with the San Diego Chargers, Rivers reported to the team during the last week of training camp. As a result, the Chargers gave incumbent quarterback Drew Brees the opportunity to retain his starting job at the beginning of the season. With almost no training camp time under his belt, Rivers was unable to wrest the starting position from Drew Brees during the 2004 preseason. Rivers began the season as the Chargers' third QB option, behind Doug Flutie, but ahead of the #4 QB Cleo Lemon. Lemon was a quarterback at Arkansas State and played against Rivers in Rivers' first collegiate game. Unfortunately for Rivers, Brees went on to have by far the best season of his career up to that point. By the end of the season, Drew Brees was named to the NFL Pro Bowl and won the NFL Comeback Player of the Year Award. Rivers received very limited playing time in the 2004 season, playing in only two games. He only threw passes in the second half of the last game of the 2004 season (a win over Kansas City), by which time the Chargers had already clinched a home playoff spot and the AFC West division title.
2005
Rivers was promoted to the #2 on the quarterback depth chart after the Chargers released Doug Flutie, who later signed with the New England Patriots.
Rivers was unable to beat out Drew Brees for the starting quarterback job in the Chargers' 2005 training camp and preseason, thus remaining the backup QB. In the Chargers' final game of the 2005 season, at home in Qualcomm Stadium, Rivers entered the game after Brees dislocated his right shoulder late in the second quarter due to a hit from Denver Broncos safety John Lynch. Rivers completed 12 of 22 passing attempts for 115 yards with one interception and two fumbles. The Chargers lost to Denver, 20–7. However, Rivers led the Chargers on their only scoring drive that game, which culminated in a 4-yard TD run by RB LaDainian Tomlinson.
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Sorry to prove you wrong in a public forum
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
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Date: September 29, 2009 01:01PM
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> Sorry to prove you wrong in a public forum
You didn't. You proved me right. Both played their first year. Maybe not that much, but at least got their feet wet.
The point of this whole thing remains, would Eli and Rivers been able to start and do as well or better than the struggling incumbant and the answer is YES.
Drew Brees was already tearing it up, so they had no need to start the rookie, and even when they did, it wasn't a disaster. Part of the reason Eli wanted out of SD was because he wanted to play. If you remember the whole Eli/Rivers debacle.
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> Sorry to prove you wrong in a public forum
You didn't. You proved me right. Both played their first year. Maybe not that much, but at least got their feet wet.
The point of this whole thing remains, would Eli and Rivers been able to start and do as well or better than the struggling incumbant and the answer is YES.
Drew Brees was already tearing it up, so they had no need to start the rookie, and even when they did, it wasn't a disaster. Part of the reason Eli wanted out of SD was because he wanted to play. If you remember the whole Eli/Rivers debacle.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
qb
()
Date: September 29, 2009 01:08PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> qb Wrote:
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> > Sorry to prove you wrong in a public forum
>
>
> You didn't. You proved me right. Both played their
> first year. Maybe not that much, but at least got
> their feet wet.
Symantics. They were "groomed" in the sense of the debate that is going on here - particularly Rivers. Aaron Rodgers saw some time before his tenure as starter as well. Taking a few snaps to get in the game is not the same as "playing." Neither of these guys qualifies as being "thrown directly into the fire on their first year."
And your statement "Rivers played immediately." If by immediate you mean he threw his first of two passes all season in the second half of the last game then yes, I suppose that would qualify as immediate. However, most people would not consider the second half of week 17 as "immediately."
I am still sorry for proving you wrong.
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> > Sorry to prove you wrong in a public forum
>
>
> You didn't. You proved me right. Both played their
> first year. Maybe not that much, but at least got
> their feet wet.
Symantics. They were "groomed" in the sense of the debate that is going on here - particularly Rivers. Aaron Rodgers saw some time before his tenure as starter as well. Taking a few snaps to get in the game is not the same as "playing." Neither of these guys qualifies as being "thrown directly into the fire on their first year."
And your statement "Rivers played immediately." If by immediate you mean he threw his first of two passes all season in the second half of the last game then yes, I suppose that would qualify as immediate. However, most people would not consider the second half of week 17 as "immediately."
I am still sorry for proving you wrong.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
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Date: September 29, 2009 01:19PM
Not sure your stats were right, so I checked.
2004 Eli had 1043 yards passing. Explain.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
qb
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Date: September 29, 2009 01:39PM
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> Not sure your stats were right, so I checked.
> 2004 Eli had 1043 yards passing. Explain.
What week did he start accumulating passing yards? Click the "Game log" to find out. He completeed 3 whole passes in week one. Warner started that game and started every game up to week 11.
Still waiting on that explaination for Philip Rivers "played immediately."
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> Not sure your stats were right, so I checked.
> 2004 Eli had 1043 yards passing. Explain.
What week did he start accumulating passing yards? Click the "Game log" to find out. He completeed 3 whole passes in week one. Warner started that game and started every game up to week 11.
Still waiting on that explaination for Philip Rivers "played immediately."
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: September 29, 2009 01:53PM
ha!
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 29, 2009 01:57PM
Let's compare the numbers. It doesn't appear to me that Jason Campbell is the problem....
Philip Rivers
YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
991 58.8 3 3 85.1
Jason Campbell
YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
793 67.6 3 2 92.5
Tony Romo
YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
735 57.3 4 3 85.2
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Philip Rivers
YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
991 58.8 3 3 85.1
Jason Campbell
YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
793 67.6 3 2 92.5
Tony Romo
YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
735 57.3 4 3 85.2
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 29, 2009 02:01PM
Memories of "the way we were," indeed.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: September 29, 2009 03:47PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Let's compare the numbers. It doesn't appear to me
> that Jason Campbell is the problem....
>
>
> Philip Rivers
> YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
> 991 58.8 3 3 85.1
>
>
> Jason Campbell
> YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
> 793 67.6 3 2 92.5
>
> Tony Romo
> YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
> 735 57.3 4 3 85.2
ok so Jcamp is not the problem.. i thought he played decent/alright. Other then the Owner, and GM is it really zorn? or the personnel?
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> Let's compare the numbers. It doesn't appear to me
> that Jason Campbell is the problem....
>
>
> Philip Rivers
> YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
> 991 58.8 3 3 85.1
>
>
> Jason Campbell
> YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
> 793 67.6 3 2 92.5
>
> Tony Romo
> YDS CMP% TD INT RAT
> 735 57.3 4 3 85.2
ok so Jcamp is not the problem.. i thought he played decent/alright. Other then the Owner, and GM is it really zorn? or the personnel?
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
FUMBLELINA
()
Date: September 30, 2009 08:40AM
Yes Fire Zorn but wait to right after the season ends
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: September 30, 2009 09:55AM
So word is Danny Boy's plane was in Denver Sunday evening at an airport near Shanahan's house.
I just want to point out a couple of things about Mike Shanahan. Mike Shanahan is a future Hall of Fame coach. However, there is DE (During Elway) Shanahan and AE (After Elway) Shanahan.
The DE Shanahan won two consecutive Super Bowls. The AE Shanahan never won a playoff game in Denver. The DE Shanahan had a winning percentage of .735, which is better than Bill Belichick's record in New England. The AE Shanahan had a winning record of .569, which was worse than Marty Schottenheimer's record in San Diego. And keep in mind, Pat Bowlen is one of the most loyal and amenable owners in the NFL in terms of the way he treats his head coaches. Shanahan's only experience with a difficult owner was the two years he was the head coach for the LA Raiders' Al Davis....where he had a .400 record over two seasons.
The fact is, there is little evidence to show that a Shanahan tenure in Washington won't turn out just like a Gibbs II or Schottenheimer tenure.
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I just want to point out a couple of things about Mike Shanahan. Mike Shanahan is a future Hall of Fame coach. However, there is DE (During Elway) Shanahan and AE (After Elway) Shanahan.
The DE Shanahan won two consecutive Super Bowls. The AE Shanahan never won a playoff game in Denver. The DE Shanahan had a winning percentage of .735, which is better than Bill Belichick's record in New England. The AE Shanahan had a winning record of .569, which was worse than Marty Schottenheimer's record in San Diego. And keep in mind, Pat Bowlen is one of the most loyal and amenable owners in the NFL in terms of the way he treats his head coaches. Shanahan's only experience with a difficult owner was the two years he was the head coach for the LA Raiders' Al Davis....where he had a .400 record over two seasons.
The fact is, there is little evidence to show that a Shanahan tenure in Washington won't turn out just like a Gibbs II or Schottenheimer tenure.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
another nugget
()
Date: September 30, 2009 10:03AM
Heard this on the radio this morning.
Way to support your former assistant. I suppose he can keep Zorn as OC.
Holmgren eyeballing D.C.?
Posted by Mike Florio on September 29, 2009 8:36 PM ET
Former Packers and Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren has been making no bones about his desire to return to the NFL in 2010.
And we've been hearing for months rumors that Holmgren would be very interested in becoming the next coach of the Washington Redskins.
Earlier today, Peter King of SI.com provided some meat for that bone, in an appearance with Chris Russo of Mag Dog Unleashed on Sirius XM Radio.
"I've heard a lot of people say in the last few days, 'Oh, Holmgren wouldn't want to go to Washington,'" King said. "Keep one thing in mind in December when all this stuff starts to go down. Remember where you heard this. Mike Holmgren last year, Thanksgiving weekend, I'm sitting in his office in Seattle and he says, 'You know, I'm going to take this next year off but after that I'll give you a cool little theory for what I might do.' I said, 'What?' And he says, 'I've coached in the Midwest with Green Bay and I grew up playing and coaching out west -- Brigham Young, the 49ers, Seattle.' And he said, 'I'd really love to try the East Coast. That brand of football where you wake up on Sunday morning and it's the most important thing. There aren't 800 things to do. Where you're in East Rutherford or Philly or Washington and it's so important.'
"He said, 'I'd really love to try football on the East Coast.' So do not eliminate Mike Holmgren when you start talking about coaching candidates for [Redskins owner] Dan Snyder."
So we think it'll be Holmgren and Shanahan jockeying for position in D.C., and the Redskins and Cowboys in a possible tug of war to get their preferred candidate.
That's why we don't rule out the 'Skins launching the process before the end of the season, in order to get a crack at Holmgren or Shanahan, before Jerry Jones does.
Way to support your former assistant. I suppose he can keep Zorn as OC.
Holmgren eyeballing D.C.?
Posted by Mike Florio on September 29, 2009 8:36 PM ET
Former Packers and Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren has been making no bones about his desire to return to the NFL in 2010.
And we've been hearing for months rumors that Holmgren would be very interested in becoming the next coach of the Washington Redskins.
Earlier today, Peter King of SI.com provided some meat for that bone, in an appearance with Chris Russo of Mag Dog Unleashed on Sirius XM Radio.
"I've heard a lot of people say in the last few days, 'Oh, Holmgren wouldn't want to go to Washington,'" King said. "Keep one thing in mind in December when all this stuff starts to go down. Remember where you heard this. Mike Holmgren last year, Thanksgiving weekend, I'm sitting in his office in Seattle and he says, 'You know, I'm going to take this next year off but after that I'll give you a cool little theory for what I might do.' I said, 'What?' And he says, 'I've coached in the Midwest with Green Bay and I grew up playing and coaching out west -- Brigham Young, the 49ers, Seattle.' And he said, 'I'd really love to try the East Coast. That brand of football where you wake up on Sunday morning and it's the most important thing. There aren't 800 things to do. Where you're in East Rutherford or Philly or Washington and it's so important.'
"He said, 'I'd really love to try football on the East Coast.' So do not eliminate Mike Holmgren when you start talking about coaching candidates for [Redskins owner] Dan Snyder."
So we think it'll be Holmgren and Shanahan jockeying for position in D.C., and the Redskins and Cowboys in a possible tug of war to get their preferred candidate.
That's why we don't rule out the 'Skins launching the process before the end of the season, in order to get a crack at Holmgren or Shanahan, before Jerry Jones does.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 30, 2009 10:16AM
Mike Holmgren last year, Thanksgiving weekend, I'm sitting in his office in Seattle and he says, 'You know, I'm going to take this next year off but after that I'll give you a cool little theory for what I might do.'
Anybody who says things like this in reference to themselves is a fucking idiot (football success aside). Holmgren is the perfect egotist to come into Landover and fail under Snyder. I would give him two years.
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Anybody who says things like this in reference to themselves is a fucking idiot (football success aside). Holmgren is the perfect egotist to come into Landover and fail under Snyder. I would give him two years.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 30, 2009 11:12AM
another nugget Wrote:
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> I suppose he can keep Zorn as OC.
Zorn's ego would not allow that. What man's ego would? Zorn would go somewhere else.
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> I suppose he can keep Zorn as OC.
Zorn's ego would not allow that. What man's ego would? Zorn would go somewhere else.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 30, 2009 11:18AM
I don't think either of those coaches are right for Washington. We need a more Bill Belichic type of coach that truly understands coaching, personnel, drafting and that loves football. Not that there's anyone like that available, but wouldn't it be great?
Both Holmgren and Shannahan benefited from having hall of fame QB's, but did THEY bring them in or did a personnel guy. AS WTL stated, after those QB's left, neither did very well.
I think just about everyone agrees that Jim Zorn is in over his head and on the way out, so it's time to start speculation who's next.
Both Holmgren and Shannahan benefited from having hall of fame QB's, but did THEY bring them in or did a personnel guy. AS WTL stated, after those QB's left, neither did very well.
I think just about everyone agrees that Jim Zorn is in over his head and on the way out, so it's time to start speculation who's next.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
496
()
Date: September 30, 2009 12:21PM
This begs for photoshopping
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 30, 2009 01:01PM
"So Tom and Katie came to the mansion this weekend, and you know what we did? Tom spit on his hand and I spit on mine and we shook hands and Tom said we would be best friends forever and ever."
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: September 30, 2009 08:54PM
hahah damn i love the skins, but these r funny as shit. I wonder what kind of stuff they are all reading about themselves this week.
Re: FIRE SNIDER
Posted by:
Thomas More
()
Date: September 30, 2009 09:41PM
So long as that fool owns the team, the locals will stink to high heaven.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
bloody blisters
()
Date: September 30, 2009 09:47PM
im a little late to the party.
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Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: September 30, 2009 10:05PM
alright bb all of them were funny but when has zorn ever game across as a gay?
other then that facial expression?
other then that facial expression?
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: September 30, 2009 10:35PM
oh man you guys have too much time on your hands.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
bloody blisters
()
Date: September 30, 2009 11:06PM
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> alright bb all of them were funny but when has
> zorn ever game across as a gay?
>
>
> other then that facial expression?
i saw that funny picture with gay characteristics and decided to exaggerate them.
you have to question a man sexuality when he puts his hands on his cheeks and stares intensely into another mans eyes like that.
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> alright bb all of them were funny but when has
> zorn ever game across as a gay?
>
>
> other then that facial expression?
i saw that funny picture with gay characteristics and decided to exaggerate them.
you have to question a man sexuality when he puts his hands on his cheeks and stares intensely into another mans eyes like that.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 01, 2009 02:07AM
lol touche, touche.
side note : i pray the redskins win this weekend get above .500 and all these kinda deserved redskin jokes end!!! !!!
side note : i pray the redskins win this weekend get above .500 and all these kinda deserved redskin jokes end!!! !!!
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
bloody blisters
()
Date: October 01, 2009 02:49AM
ok last one.
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Posted by:
Numbers
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Date: October 01, 2009 11:22PM
This weeks Madden Simulation.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 05, 2009 09:54AM
The Madden simulation is funny. It predicted Nugent as Tampa's "Player of the Game," when Nugent COST them the game (okay, maybe it was the long snapper or holder, whatever).
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 05, 2009 11:24AM
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> The Madden simulation is funny. It predicted
> Nugent as Tampa's "Player of the Game," when
> Nugent COST them the game (okay, maybe it was the
> long snapper or holder, whatever).
It got the score and the Skins numbers pretty close though.
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> The Madden simulation is funny. It predicted
> Nugent as Tampa's "Player of the Game," when
> Nugent COST them the game (okay, maybe it was the
> long snapper or holder, whatever).
It got the score and the Skins numbers pretty close though.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 05, 2009 08:02PM
madden simulator is the shit. i mean that in a good way.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 06, 2009 11:04PM
Well,
Sherman Lewis has been hired by Snyder, so I'm guessing Zorn is on his way out soon. Cerrato referred to Sherman Lewis as a "new set of eyes".
One position of Zorn's is filled. 2 more to go.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/06/2009 11:06PM by Numbers.
Sherman Lewis has been hired by Snyder, so I'm guessing Zorn is on his way out soon. Cerrato referred to Sherman Lewis as a "new set of eyes".
One position of Zorn's is filled. 2 more to go.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/06/2009 11:06PM by Numbers.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 07, 2009 10:33AM
Numbers Wrote:
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> Well,
> Sherman Lewis has been hired by Snyder, so I'm
> guessing Zorn is on his way out soon. Cerrato
> referred to Sherman Lewis as a "new set of eyes".
>
>
> One position of Zorn's is filled. 2 more to go.
Lewis was an OC under Holmgren in Green Bay in the 90s. Anyone else see where this is going?
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> Well,
> Sherman Lewis has been hired by Snyder, so I'm
> guessing Zorn is on his way out soon. Cerrato
> referred to Sherman Lewis as a "new set of eyes".
>
>
> One position of Zorn's is filled. 2 more to go.
Lewis was an OC under Holmgren in Green Bay in the 90s. Anyone else see where this is going?
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 07, 2009 10:45AM
Holmgren to the Skins? Who knows.
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WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 07, 2009 10:53AM
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> Holmgren to the Skins? Who knows.
Not this season. But Lewis may be assessing the situation for Holmgren who is waiting to make a decision until after this season is up. I don't think the intent is for Lewis to take over this season, but to get a read on the organization and personnel for Holmgren (which would be smart on his part, if that is indeed what is happening).
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> Holmgren to the Skins? Who knows.
Not this season. But Lewis may be assessing the situation for Holmgren who is waiting to make a decision until after this season is up. I don't think the intent is for Lewis to take over this season, but to get a read on the organization and personnel for Holmgren (which would be smart on his part, if that is indeed what is happening).
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 07, 2009 02:24PM
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> Not this season. But Lewis may be assessing the
> situation for Holmgren who is waiting to make a
> decision until after this season is up. I don't
> think the intent is for Lewis to take over this
> season, but to get a read on the organization and
> personnel for Holmgren (which would be smart on
> his part, if that is indeed what is happening).
That's exactly what's happening.
However, I think it could come this season. Zorn is barely hanging on and ESPN hinted that they had inside info that it's just a matter of filling the 3 positions Zorn holds currently. One is now already filled, two more to go.
If the Skins lose the next two games, I believe Snyder will pull the trigger.
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> Not this season. But Lewis may be assessing the
> situation for Holmgren who is waiting to make a
> decision until after this season is up. I don't
> think the intent is for Lewis to take over this
> season, but to get a read on the organization and
> personnel for Holmgren (which would be smart on
> his part, if that is indeed what is happening).
That's exactly what's happening.
However, I think it could come this season. Zorn is barely hanging on and ESPN hinted that they had inside info that it's just a matter of filling the 3 positions Zorn holds currently. One is now already filled, two more to go.
If the Skins lose the next two games, I believe Snyder will pull the trigger.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 07, 2009 03:04PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > Not this season. But Lewis may be assessing the
> > situation for Holmgren who is waiting to make a
> > decision until after this season is up. I don't
> > think the intent is for Lewis to take over this
> > season, but to get a read on the organization
> and
> > personnel for Holmgren (which would be smart on
> > his part, if that is indeed what is happening).
>
>
> That's exactly what's happening.
> However, I think it could come this season. Zorn
> is barely hanging on and ESPN hinted that they had
> inside info that it's just a matter of filling the
> 3 positions Zorn holds currently. One is now
> already filled, two more to go.
>
> If the Skins lose the next two games, I believe
> Snyder will pull the trigger.
I have a hard time seeing a coach of Holmgren's caliber coming in mid-season. I would suspect that if Zorn is canned that Lewis will be "acting head coach" until Holmgren is brought in at the end of the season.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> > Not this season. But Lewis may be assessing the
> > situation for Holmgren who is waiting to make a
> > decision until after this season is up. I don't
> > think the intent is for Lewis to take over this
> > season, but to get a read on the organization
> and
> > personnel for Holmgren (which would be smart on
> > his part, if that is indeed what is happening).
>
>
> That's exactly what's happening.
> However, I think it could come this season. Zorn
> is barely hanging on and ESPN hinted that they had
> inside info that it's just a matter of filling the
> 3 positions Zorn holds currently. One is now
> already filled, two more to go.
>
> If the Skins lose the next two games, I believe
> Snyder will pull the trigger.
I have a hard time seeing a coach of Holmgren's caliber coming in mid-season. I would suspect that if Zorn is canned that Lewis will be "acting head coach" until Holmgren is brought in at the end of the season.
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Posted by:
Numbers
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Date: October 07, 2009 04:23PM
I'm not really sure I like the Holmgren choice anyway. Let's be honest, Seattle was never really a powerhouse team and Green Bay had Brett Favre. Yeah, Seattle made the playoffs here and there, but usually lost in the second round, after beating the Redskins of course.
I think this team needs someone with a temper and someone who is more violent. Someone with balls that will stand up to players and put them in their place if they fuck up.
I like how Bellichic told Joey Gallaway to fuck off if he's not gonna play in the scheme. I also like how Singletary straightened out that douchebag receiver and sent a message to the rest of the team to get the hell in line or get out.
Zorn is scared to death of Clinton Portis for some reason and just not assertive enough to do anything.
I think this team needs someone with a temper and someone who is more violent. Someone with balls that will stand up to players and put them in their place if they fuck up.
I like how Bellichic told Joey Gallaway to fuck off if he's not gonna play in the scheme. I also like how Singletary straightened out that douchebag receiver and sent a message to the rest of the team to get the hell in line or get out.
Zorn is scared to death of Clinton Portis for some reason and just not assertive enough to do anything.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 07, 2009 10:06PM
Zorn is afraid of Portis because Portis is Danny Boy's buddy and will end-run Zorn at the drop of a hat.
The Skins could use a no-bullshit guy like Singeltary, Parcells or Gruden. Unfortunately, as we saw with Schottenheimer, Danny Boy's fragile ego can't tolerate a strong man who is right and has no problem expressing his opinion.
I think of all of the names I have heard, Holmgren strikes as the one most likely to take the position. His ego is so huge that he will figure he can take any team to the Super Bowl. He probably also thinks he is a master politician who will be able to get Danny Boy to see things his way (wrong!).
I think the other guys out there have other plans. Shanahan is keeping an eye on San Diego. Cowher is looking out for Carolina. And Gruden probably doesn't want to deal with another Al Davis-type asshole owner.
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The Skins could use a no-bullshit guy like Singeltary, Parcells or Gruden. Unfortunately, as we saw with Schottenheimer, Danny Boy's fragile ego can't tolerate a strong man who is right and has no problem expressing his opinion.
I think of all of the names I have heard, Holmgren strikes as the one most likely to take the position. His ego is so huge that he will figure he can take any team to the Super Bowl. He probably also thinks he is a master politician who will be able to get Danny Boy to see things his way (wrong!).
I think the other guys out there have other plans. Shanahan is keeping an eye on San Diego. Cowher is looking out for Carolina. And Gruden probably doesn't want to deal with another Al Davis-type asshole owner.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 08, 2009 02:34PM
Blache is no longer talking to the press. He has given the duty over to Jerry Gret.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/blache-hands-media-duties-over.html
Zorn may be fired by the bye in 2 1/2 weeks. Then it will look like this...
Blache HC
Lewis OC
Jerry DC
and what does making Blache coach right now do ... head start on the Rooney Rule..
also would take Lewis a couple weeks to learn the offense .. like Bye week
The next coach of the Redskins will be Shannahan. He and Vinny are friends.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/blache-hands-media-duties-over.html
Zorn may be fired by the bye in 2 1/2 weeks. Then it will look like this...
Blache HC
Lewis OC
Jerry DC
and what does making Blache coach right now do ... head start on the Rooney Rule..
also would take Lewis a couple weeks to learn the offense .. like Bye week
The next coach of the Redskins will be Shannahan. He and Vinny are friends.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 08, 2009 09:54PM
This weeks Madden Simulation.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 08, 2009 10:25PM
While I think the Panthers will win, I think the margin of victory in the Madden simulation is a bit much. We'll see. I think it will be close, but the Skins will come up short.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
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Date: October 09, 2009 09:39PM
Zorn seems like he's losing touch with reality. He thinks the Portis/Sellers incident is great.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 10, 2009 11:46AM
So Portis and Sellers were close to throwing punches in the locker room because Portis was working behind the scenes to try to get Sellers benched. The guys who jumped in to stop that fight shouldn't have. Sellers would have destroyed Portis and taught that ass a lesson. Sellers can't run down field and block every line backer and safety in Portis's way.
I've never cared for Portis's running style. He never goes down the middle unless it is a draw play and there's no chance of anyone touching him until he is in the secondary. He cannot finesse his way through a defense. His claim to fame was using speed to get around on the outside. However, he doesn't have the speed anymore. He is basically useless against a good run defense.
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I've never cared for Portis's running style. He never goes down the middle unless it is a draw play and there's no chance of anyone touching him until he is in the secondary. He cannot finesse his way through a defense. His claim to fame was using speed to get around on the outside. However, he doesn't have the speed anymore. He is basically useless against a good run defense.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 11, 2009 08:42PM
Jay Glazer of Fox Sports reports that Snyder has flown to Denver twice to coax Shanahan to coach the Skins, but has been turned down both times.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 11, 2009 09:02PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> So Portis and Sellers were close to throwing
> punches in the locker room because Portis was
> working behind the scenes to try to get Sellers
> benched. The guys who jumped in to stop that fight
> shouldn't have. Sellers would have destroyed
> Portis and taught that ass a lesson. Sellers can't
> run down field and block every line backer and
> safety in Portis's way.
whats your source??
>
> I've never cared for Portis's running style. He
> never goes down the middle unless it is a draw
> play and there's no chance of anyone touching him
> until he is in the secondary. He cannot finesse
> his way through a defense. His claim to fame was
> using speed to get around on the outside. However,
> he doesn't have the speed anymore. He is basically
> useless against a good run defense.
as much as i hate to agree w/you on that you are on to something. Portis used to always go straight at the defense, head first, and looking to go and bang out some yards. idk if its a slow start or what but he just does not seem the same.
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> So Portis and Sellers were close to throwing
> punches in the locker room because Portis was
> working behind the scenes to try to get Sellers
> benched. The guys who jumped in to stop that fight
> shouldn't have. Sellers would have destroyed
> Portis and taught that ass a lesson. Sellers can't
> run down field and block every line backer and
> safety in Portis's way.
whats your source??
>
> I've never cared for Portis's running style. He
> never goes down the middle unless it is a draw
> play and there's no chance of anyone touching him
> until he is in the secondary. He cannot finesse
> his way through a defense. His claim to fame was
> using speed to get around on the outside. However,
> he doesn't have the speed anymore. He is basically
> useless against a good run defense.
as much as i hate to agree w/you on that you are on to something. Portis used to always go straight at the defense, head first, and looking to go and bang out some yards. idk if its a slow start or what but he just does not seem the same.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 11, 2009 09:05PM
Czar Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> whats your source??
ESPN. The Washington Post. It's been all over the news.
>
> as much as i hate to agree w/you on that you are
> on to something. Portis used to always go straight
> at the defense, head first, and looking to go and
> bang out some yards. idk if its a slow start or
> what but he just does not seem the same.
Hey, if LT is done, Portis certainly could be. Since the move away from powerbacks to smaller finesse and speed backs, RBs don't seem to last as long as they used to. I've seen Portis in person and he's not a big guy.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> whats your source??
ESPN. The Washington Post. It's been all over the news.
>
> as much as i hate to agree w/you on that you are
> on to something. Portis used to always go straight
> at the defense, head first, and looking to go and
> bang out some yards. idk if its a slow start or
> what but he just does not seem the same.
Hey, if LT is done, Portis certainly could be. Since the move away from powerbacks to smaller finesse and speed backs, RBs don't seem to last as long as they used to. I've seen Portis in person and he's not a big guy.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 11, 2009 09:43PM
ok ok i stopped reading the post a year ago, i musta missed it on ESPN.
however i do not believe it is completely time to stop using Portis. He is still an above average blocking rb on pass plays, and any mediocre back can look good or great with a good offensive line.
So, with that in mind this upcoming draft the redskins need to draft a prime time offensive linemen with our first pick. maybe if we could find a sleeper in the later rounds with a running back that would be nice, but if were looking to replace Portis i would want my number one pick to do that.. so not this year.
however i do not believe it is completely time to stop using Portis. He is still an above average blocking rb on pass plays, and any mediocre back can look good or great with a good offensive line.
So, with that in mind this upcoming draft the redskins need to draft a prime time offensive linemen with our first pick. maybe if we could find a sleeper in the later rounds with a running back that would be nice, but if were looking to replace Portis i would want my number one pick to do that.. so not this year.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 11, 2009 10:17PM
They can't replace Portis! They're stuck with him, whether we like him or not. Have you seen his current contract?
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 12, 2009 12:32AM
nah, well ya but i forget it.. money aint a thing to dan the man, and when there is no cap next year, it really wont matter
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 12, 2009 08:37AM
Czar Wrote:
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> nah, well ya but i forget it.. money aint a thing
> to dan the man, and when there is no cap next
> year, it really wont matter
If Dan and Vinny had half-a-brain, they would stick with Zorn through the end of this season and then pull together a one season "dream team" of vets near retirement for the no cap year. Use a $300 mil payroll and pick up guys like Favre, T.O., Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, etc, for a blow-out season. Get a decent, proven coach like Denny Green or Mark Marz to coach them for the year. It would pack FedEx Field.
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> nah, well ya but i forget it.. money aint a thing
> to dan the man, and when there is no cap next
> year, it really wont matter
If Dan and Vinny had half-a-brain, they would stick with Zorn through the end of this season and then pull together a one season "dream team" of vets near retirement for the no cap year. Use a $300 mil payroll and pick up guys like Favre, T.O., Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, etc, for a blow-out season. Get a decent, proven coach like Denny Green or Mark Marz to coach them for the year. It would pack FedEx Field.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: October 12, 2009 09:23AM
Is it just me or has the tide really turned against Snyder? I've read more columns and heard more sports talk shows calling him out this year than in any other. Hell, even WTOP had one of their "call in and leave a comment" about whether it's more enjoyable to watch a Skins game on TV or go to FedEx. The majority of the comments were that Snyder has made watching a game live unbearable with his nickle and diming of the fans.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 12, 2009 09:45AM
Warhawk Wrote:
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> Is it just me or has the tide really turned
> against Snyder? I've read more columns and heard
> more sports talk shows calling him out this year
> than in any other. Hell, even WTOP had one of
> their "call in and leave a comment" about whether
> it's more enjoyable to watch a Skins game on TV or
> go to FedEx. The majority of the comments were
> that Snyder has made watching a game live
> unbearable with his nickle and diming of the
> fans.
The tide has turned. I think people are done giving him the benefit of the doubt. The best you can expect from this current situation, though, is Vinny finally getting canned.
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> Is it just me or has the tide really turned
> against Snyder? I've read more columns and heard
> more sports talk shows calling him out this year
> than in any other. Hell, even WTOP had one of
> their "call in and leave a comment" about whether
> it's more enjoyable to watch a Skins game on TV or
> go to FedEx. The majority of the comments were
> that Snyder has made watching a game live
> unbearable with his nickle and diming of the
> fans.
The tide has turned. I think people are done giving him the benefit of the doubt. The best you can expect from this current situation, though, is Vinny finally getting canned.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 12, 2009 11:05AM
I think Vinnie has some kinda dirt on Snyder to have lasted this long. Maybe Vinnie caught Dan with some gay prostitute or something and told him he'd better keep him in coke forever or it might slip out during his withdrawl symptoms.
There has to be some reason for keeping him around this long.
There has to be some reason for keeping him around this long.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 12, 2009 12:56PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> I think Vinnie has some kinda dirt on Snyder to
> have lasted this long. Maybe Vinnie caught Dan
> with some gay prostitute or something and told him
> he'd better keep him in coke forever or it might
> slip out during his withdrawl symptoms.
>
> There has to be some reason for keeping him around
> this long.
You might be right. Maybe Vinny is Danny's gatekeeper. If push comes to shove and there is an ouster, I bet Vinny still has some sort of advisory role to stay on Danny Boy's payroll.
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> I think Vinnie has some kinda dirt on Snyder to
> have lasted this long. Maybe Vinnie caught Dan
> with some gay prostitute or something and told him
> he'd better keep him in coke forever or it might
> slip out during his withdrawl symptoms.
>
> There has to be some reason for keeping him around
> this long.
You might be right. Maybe Vinny is Danny's gatekeeper. If push comes to shove and there is an ouster, I bet Vinny still has some sort of advisory role to stay on Danny Boy's payroll.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
GMU Hokie
()
Date: October 12, 2009 01:19PM
Fire the owner.
FIRE ZORN Wrote:
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> Jim Zorn needs to be immediately fired. His play
> calling is the WORST in the NFL, and along with
> Zorn, Vinny Cerrato needs to be shown the door.
> Dan Snyder would be smart to bring in Cowher or
> Shanahan, and let them run EVERYTHING. If he
> doesn't fire Zorn and Cerrato(Yes its a package
> deal), then the Redskins will continue their
> misery on and off the field.
>
>
> Get it done Danny, before its too late.
FIRE ZORN Wrote:
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> Jim Zorn needs to be immediately fired. His play
> calling is the WORST in the NFL, and along with
> Zorn, Vinny Cerrato needs to be shown the door.
> Dan Snyder would be smart to bring in Cowher or
> Shanahan, and let them run EVERYTHING. If he
> doesn't fire Zorn and Cerrato(Yes its a package
> deal), then the Redskins will continue their
> misery on and off the field.
>
>
> Get it done Danny, before its too late.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 12, 2009 04:18PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Czar Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > nah, well ya but i forget it.. money aint a
> thing
> > to dan the man, and when there is no cap next
> > year, it really wont matter
>
>
> If Dan and Vinny had half-a-brain, they would
> stick with Zorn through the end of this season and
> then pull together a one season "dream team" of
> vets near retirement for the no cap year. Use a
> $300 mil payroll and pick up guys like Favre,
> T.O., Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, etc, for a
> blow-out season. Get a decent, proven coach like
> Denny Green or Mark Marz to coach them for the
> year. It would pack FedEx Field.
hahah! joe that would be so tight! great great idea. skins would be the most popular team in the league. just those 4 over the hill players would make our offense so much better (i am not even kidding) . i say go for it.
2010-2011 $300million DREAM TEAM.
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> Czar Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > nah, well ya but i forget it.. money aint a
> thing
> > to dan the man, and when there is no cap next
> > year, it really wont matter
>
>
> If Dan and Vinny had half-a-brain, they would
> stick with Zorn through the end of this season and
> then pull together a one season "dream team" of
> vets near retirement for the no cap year. Use a
> $300 mil payroll and pick up guys like Favre,
> T.O., Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, etc, for a
> blow-out season. Get a decent, proven coach like
> Denny Green or Mark Marz to coach them for the
> year. It would pack FedEx Field.
hahah! joe that would be so tight! great great idea. skins would be the most popular team in the league. just those 4 over the hill players would make our offense so much better (i am not even kidding) . i say go for it.
2010-2011 $300million DREAM TEAM.
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Posted by:
Doc Holiday
()
Date: October 12, 2009 04:21PM
rj Wrote:
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> Collins would make him look good... Campbell is
> the real problem.
Yep. It's a simple as that. I agree 100%. Put in Collins right now.
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> Collins would make him look good... Campbell is
> the real problem.
Yep. It's a simple as that. I agree 100%. Put in Collins right now.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 12, 2009 09:19PM
Czar Wrote:
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>
>
> hahah! joe that would be so tight! great great
> idea. skins would be the most popular team in the
> league. just those 4 over the hill players would
> make our offense so much better (i am not even
> kidding) . i say go for it.
>
>
> 2010-2011 $300million DREAM TEAM.
Look at what Ted Leonsis did with the Caps before the lockout. He basically dropped everyone but Kolzig. Snyder could do the same. Go with a $300 mil payroll in 2010, get an entire dream team (not just those players on offense) for 2010. Then, when the lockout starts, clean the decks and have tons of cap room for when the lockout ends.
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>
>
> hahah! joe that would be so tight! great great
> idea. skins would be the most popular team in the
> league. just those 4 over the hill players would
> make our offense so much better (i am not even
> kidding) . i say go for it.
>
>
> 2010-2011 $300million DREAM TEAM.
Look at what Ted Leonsis did with the Caps before the lockout. He basically dropped everyone but Kolzig. Snyder could do the same. Go with a $300 mil payroll in 2010, get an entire dream team (not just those players on offense) for 2010. Then, when the lockout starts, clean the decks and have tons of cap room for when the lockout ends.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 12, 2009 09:26PM
On NFL.com, there's a story about the Skins and what some of the players are saying on and off record. The underlying tone, to me, is that the players blame Snyder and his coke slut.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 12, 2009 09:27PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> On NFL.com, there's a story about the Skins and
> what some of the players are saying on and off
> record. The underlying tone, to me, is that the
> players blame Snyder and his coke slut.
Of course they do. That's what happens when you keep a team together under two head coaches. They realize that the head coach isn't the problem.
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> On NFL.com, there's a story about the Skins and
> what some of the players are saying on and off
> record. The underlying tone, to me, is that the
> players blame Snyder and his coke slut.
Of course they do. That's what happens when you keep a team together under two head coaches. They realize that the head coach isn't the problem.
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Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 12, 2009 09:31PM
So, do you think Snyder is aware of how many people think he is the spawn of Satan?
Does he even care?
Does he even care?
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 12, 2009 09:33PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> So, do you think Snyder is aware of how many
> people think he is the spawn of Satan?
Yes
> Does he even care?
No
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> So, do you think Snyder is aware of how many
> people think he is the spawn of Satan?
Yes
> Does he even care?
No
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 12, 2009 09:46PM
would you care if you owned 6 flags, the redskins, and were worth over 1billion $$$$$$ net worth.
no!
no!
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 13, 2009 12:00AM
Czar Wrote:
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> would you care if you owned 6 flags, the redskins,
> and were worth over 1billion $$$$$$ net worth.
>
>
> no!
I think I would still care. No one wants to be perceived as an asshole to so many people.
BTW, 6 flags is not doing very well these days and the Skins are in jeopardy of tanking for the first time in history. Maybe he'll want to get while the getting is good?
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> would you care if you owned 6 flags, the redskins,
> and were worth over 1billion $$$$$$ net worth.
>
>
> no!
I think I would still care. No one wants to be perceived as an asshole to so many people.
BTW, 6 flags is not doing very well these days and the Skins are in jeopardy of tanking for the first time in history. Maybe he'll want to get while the getting is good?
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 13, 2009 09:40AM
Czar Wrote:
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> would you care if you owned 6 flags, the redskins,
> and were worth over 1billion $$$$$$ net worth.
>
>
> no!
Dan Snyder is in bankruptcy court over Six Flags trying not to lose his shirt.
He may be worth $1 billion on paper, but I have to question how liquid he really is at this time.
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> would you care if you owned 6 flags, the redskins,
> and were worth over 1billion $$$$$$ net worth.
>
>
> no!
Dan Snyder is in bankruptcy court over Six Flags trying not to lose his shirt.
He may be worth $1 billion on paper, but I have to question how liquid he really is at this time.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 13, 2009 09:53AM
According to the Washington Times, the Skins are going after Gruden. This would make sense, given that Gruden's reputation was hurt in the last two years at Tampa, between the QB carousel and running Cadillac Williams into the ground. If Gruden ends up in DC, I can see it imploding like Oakland has in recent years. It's going to be awful.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 13, 2009 11:05AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> According to the Washington Times, the Skins are
> going after Gruden. This would make sense, given
> that Gruden's reputation was hurt in the last two
> years at Tampa, between the QB carousel and
> running Cadillac Williams into the ground. If
> Gruden ends up in DC, I can see it imploding like
> Oakland has in recent years. It's going to be
> awful.
I agree. Gruden is a nice guy, but I don't think he's what the Skins need right now. In fact, short of Snyder and Cerrato suddenly vacating, I can't think what it is the Skins need right now.
I do think they are going to have start from scratch and bag the whole "West Coast Offense" bullshit. I think the players you have should dictate what type of offense you run.
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> According to the Washington Times, the Skins are
> going after Gruden. This would make sense, given
> that Gruden's reputation was hurt in the last two
> years at Tampa, between the QB carousel and
> running Cadillac Williams into the ground. If
> Gruden ends up in DC, I can see it imploding like
> Oakland has in recent years. It's going to be
> awful.
I agree. Gruden is a nice guy, but I don't think he's what the Skins need right now. In fact, short of Snyder and Cerrato suddenly vacating, I can't think what it is the Skins need right now.
I do think they are going to have start from scratch and bag the whole "West Coast Offense" bullshit. I think the players you have should dictate what type of offense you run.
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Posted by:
Czar
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Date: October 14, 2009 01:16AM
Numbers Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > According to the Washington Times, the Skins
> are
> > going after Gruden. This would make sense,
> given
> > that Gruden's reputation was hurt in the last
> two
> > years at Tampa, between the QB carousel and
> > running Cadillac Williams into the ground. If
> > Gruden ends up in DC, I can see it imploding
> like
> > Oakland has in recent years. It's going to be
> > awful.
>
>
> I agree. Gruden is a nice guy, but I don't think
> he's what the Skins need right now. In fact, short
> of Snyder and Cerrato suddenly vacating, I can't
> think what it is the Skins need right now.
> I do think they are going to have start from
> scratch and bag the whole "West Coast Offense"
> bullshit. I think the players you have should
> dictate what type of offense you run.
not sure if it was you, or somebody else, but it was stated, and i agree the HC, zorn or someone new needs to be a person who will get up in peoples face and let them know, perhaps yelling with anger, what the fuck they need to do and if they are doing it wrong. Gruden has a super bowl ring. I think he would be a good fit. He is a HEAD coach first, AND great at dealing with quarterbacks. He also had the best defense in the league for a good bit. i would be A-okay with Gruden ;however, not until the end of the season.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > According to the Washington Times, the Skins
> are
> > going after Gruden. This would make sense,
> given
> > that Gruden's reputation was hurt in the last
> two
> > years at Tampa, between the QB carousel and
> > running Cadillac Williams into the ground. If
> > Gruden ends up in DC, I can see it imploding
> like
> > Oakland has in recent years. It's going to be
> > awful.
>
>
> I agree. Gruden is a nice guy, but I don't think
> he's what the Skins need right now. In fact, short
> of Snyder and Cerrato suddenly vacating, I can't
> think what it is the Skins need right now.
> I do think they are going to have start from
> scratch and bag the whole "West Coast Offense"
> bullshit. I think the players you have should
> dictate what type of offense you run.
not sure if it was you, or somebody else, but it was stated, and i agree the HC, zorn or someone new needs to be a person who will get up in peoples face and let them know, perhaps yelling with anger, what the fuck they need to do and if they are doing it wrong. Gruden has a super bowl ring. I think he would be a good fit. He is a HEAD coach first, AND great at dealing with quarterbacks. He also had the best defense in the league for a good bit. i would be A-okay with Gruden ;however, not until the end of the season.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 14, 2009 09:13AM
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>
> not sure if it was you, or somebody else, but it
> was stated, and i agree the HC, zorn or someone
> new needs to be a person who will get up in
> peoples face and let them know, perhaps yelling
> with anger, what the fuck they need to do and if
> they are doing it wrong. Gruden has a super bowl
> ring. I think he would be a good fit. He is a HEAD
> coach first, AND great at dealing with
> quarterbacks. He also had the best defense in the
> league for a good bit. i would be A-okay with
> Gruden ;however, not until the end of the season.
Gruden is going to be Marty, Part II. I think Gruden is a good coach, but he does have some issues with personnel management anyway (like have six QBs sitting around while negotiating for Favre). If he ends up in DC, it is going to be a toxic mix with Danny and Vinny.
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>
> not sure if it was you, or somebody else, but it
> was stated, and i agree the HC, zorn or someone
> new needs to be a person who will get up in
> peoples face and let them know, perhaps yelling
> with anger, what the fuck they need to do and if
> they are doing it wrong. Gruden has a super bowl
> ring. I think he would be a good fit. He is a HEAD
> coach first, AND great at dealing with
> quarterbacks. He also had the best defense in the
> league for a good bit. i would be A-okay with
> Gruden ;however, not until the end of the season.
Gruden is going to be Marty, Part II. I think Gruden is a good coach, but he does have some issues with personnel management anyway (like have six QBs sitting around while negotiating for Favre). If he ends up in DC, it is going to be a toxic mix with Danny and Vinny.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 14, 2009 09:26AM
Riggo to Snyder - Linus, Lose the Blanket....
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 14, 2009 10:14AM
Unfortunately, I think the blanket has Dan's DNA all over it and could lead to some form of extortion.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: October 14, 2009 10:29AM
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> If he ends up in DC, it is going to be a
> toxic mix with Danny and Vinny.
True, but the same can be said of anyone coming in. That's why I think Zorn should stay... unless Danny hires someone to replace Vinny AND let that GM run the show then it doesn't matter what caliber of coach is on the field. I would even go so far as to say Zorn COULD be a positive for the team if that were to happen. There is no sense in trying to heal a sick tree by removing leaves that don't look great. If they aren't going to change the corporate environment then coaching changes aren't going to accomplish anything.
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> If he ends up in DC, it is going to be a
> toxic mix with Danny and Vinny.
True, but the same can be said of anyone coming in. That's why I think Zorn should stay... unless Danny hires someone to replace Vinny AND let that GM run the show then it doesn't matter what caliber of coach is on the field. I would even go so far as to say Zorn COULD be a positive for the team if that were to happen. There is no sense in trying to heal a sick tree by removing leaves that don't look great. If they aren't going to change the corporate environment then coaching changes aren't going to accomplish anything.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 14, 2009 10:41AM
Chucky after the first game with Jason Campbell....
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: October 14, 2009 10:46AM
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> Unfortunately, I think the blanket has Dan's DNA
> all over it and could lead to some form of
> extortion.
+1
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> Unfortunately, I think the blanket has Dan's DNA
> all over it and could lead to some form of
> extortion.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 14, 2009 11:22AM
Chucky takes over and sets the record straight.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: October 14, 2009 11:24AM
What would Chucky say about DeAngelo Hall's tackling ability or Carlos Rogers' great hands?
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 14, 2009 11:57AM
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> What would Chucky say about DeAngelo Hall's
> tackling ability or Carlos Rogers' great hands?
It might go something like this...
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> tackling ability or Carlos Rogers' great hands?
It might go something like this...
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 14, 2009 03:59PM
See i think a stout, strong personality like Gruden would be killer for the redskins. Just what they need, and if they don't comply, sit em, find someone else.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: October 14, 2009 04:13PM
Czar Wrote:
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> See i think a stout, strong personality like
> Gruden would be killer for the redskins. Just what
> they need, and if they don't comply, sit em, find
> someone else.
Hahaha, I defy any coach to bench one of Snyder's boyfriends like Portis. Snyder would run the coach out of town exactly 3 seconds after he got the phone call.
Portis: "*Sniff Sniff* Danny, Gruden benched me!"
Snyder: "There there Clinton, I'll protect you. That mean old coach can't do that to you. He'll be on the next flight to Alaska!"
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> See i think a stout, strong personality like
> Gruden would be killer for the redskins. Just what
> they need, and if they don't comply, sit em, find
> someone else.
Hahaha, I defy any coach to bench one of Snyder's boyfriends like Portis. Snyder would run the coach out of town exactly 3 seconds after he got the phone call.
Portis: "*Sniff Sniff* Danny, Gruden benched me!"
Snyder: "There there Clinton, I'll protect you. That mean old coach can't do that to you. He'll be on the next flight to Alaska!"
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 14, 2009 04:34PM
Mr Captcha Wrote:
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> Czar Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > See i think a stout, strong personality like
> > Gruden would be killer for the redskins. Just
> what
> > they need, and if they don't comply, sit em,
> find
> > someone else.
>
>
> Hahaha, I defy any coach to bench one of Snyder's
> boyfriends like Portis. Snyder would run the
> coach out of town exactly 3 seconds after he got
> the phone call.
>
> Portis: "*Sniff Sniff* Danny, Gruden benched me!"
> Snyder: "There there Clinton, I'll protect you.
> That mean old coach can't do that to you. He'll
> be on the next flight to Alaska!"
That's exactly what would happen. That's how Marty got into trouble. He benched Jeff George for not using the play he called and the next thing you know George is playing, Brad Johnson was being shipped out and Marty's head was about to explode.
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> Czar Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > See i think a stout, strong personality like
> > Gruden would be killer for the redskins. Just
> what
> > they need, and if they don't comply, sit em,
> find
> > someone else.
>
>
> Hahaha, I defy any coach to bench one of Snyder's
> boyfriends like Portis. Snyder would run the
> coach out of town exactly 3 seconds after he got
> the phone call.
>
> Portis: "*Sniff Sniff* Danny, Gruden benched me!"
> Snyder: "There there Clinton, I'll protect you.
> That mean old coach can't do that to you. He'll
> be on the next flight to Alaska!"
That's exactly what would happen. That's how Marty got into trouble. He benched Jeff George for not using the play he called and the next thing you know George is playing, Brad Johnson was being shipped out and Marty's head was about to explode.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 15, 2009 09:06PM
Week 6 Madden Simulation.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 15, 2009 09:14PM
Why does Madden keep predicting the Skins scoring more than 20 points? Has that happened once this season? I don't think so.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 15, 2009 10:27PM
grrr i hate haters. skins will win sunday.
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Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: October 15, 2009 10:59PM
Czar Wrote:
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> grrr i hate haters. skins will win sunday.
Just keep saying that, you're bound to be right again some day.
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> grrr i hate haters. skins will win sunday.
Just keep saying that, you're bound to be right again some day.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 15, 2009 11:07PM
Czar Wrote:
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> grrr i hate haters. skins will win sunday.
Joe Theismann...JOE FRICKIN' THEISMANN...predicts the Chiefs will beat the Redskins this week. The biggest Skins homer there is! A guy on Danny Boy's payroll!
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> grrr i hate haters. skins will win sunday.
Joe Theismann...JOE FRICKIN' THEISMANN...predicts the Chiefs will beat the Redskins this week. The biggest Skins homer there is! A guy on Danny Boy's payroll!
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 15, 2009 11:11PM
haha i hear you dawg, but i just cannot fathom it. i hope not.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 15, 2009 11:19PM
Czar Wrote:
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> haha i hear you dawg, but i just cannot fathom it.
> i hope not.
Theismann said that the Skins O-Line is so bad now that no QB is going to be able to get a pass off against the blitz. The KC defense is better than the defenses the Skins faced with the Bucs and Rams. I expect Campbell to be harassed and hurried all game and forced into picks and fumbles.
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> haha i hear you dawg, but i just cannot fathom it.
> i hope not.
Theismann said that the Skins O-Line is so bad now that no QB is going to be able to get a pass off against the blitz. The KC defense is better than the defenses the Skins faced with the Bucs and Rams. I expect Campbell to be harassed and hurried all game and forced into picks and fumbles.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 15, 2009 11:22PM
i agree with that. the Oline is the weakness, as was last year. Until the Oline is fixed every qb and coach that comes through will get ridiculed until they get fired.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 16, 2009 10:59AM
Czar Wrote:
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> i agree with that. the Oline is the weakness, as
> was last year. Until the Oline is fixed every qb
> and coach that comes through will get ridiculed
> until they get fired.
Or they could install a faster, more mobile QB that can roll out and escape a little better. Campbell can't throw even when he isn't pressured, so we won't be losing anything by putting Brennan or Daniels in there.
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> i agree with that. the Oline is the weakness, as
> was last year. Until the Oline is fixed every qb
> and coach that comes through will get ridiculed
> until they get fired.
Or they could install a faster, more mobile QB that can roll out and escape a little better. Campbell can't throw even when he isn't pressured, so we won't be losing anything by putting Brennan or Daniels in there.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 16, 2009 11:11AM
Numbers Wrote:
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>
> Or they could install a faster, more mobile QB
> that can roll out and escape a little better.
> Campbell can't throw even when he isn't pressured,
> so we won't be losing anything by putting Brennan
> or Daniels in there.
Isn't Brennan on IR for the season? I also wasn't very impressed with Chase Daniels. He has the will, but not the physical talents needed.
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>
> Or they could install a faster, more mobile QB
> that can roll out and escape a little better.
> Campbell can't throw even when he isn't pressured,
> so we won't be losing anything by putting Brennan
> or Daniels in there.
Isn't Brennan on IR for the season? I also wasn't very impressed with Chase Daniels. He has the will, but not the physical talents needed.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: October 16, 2009 12:11PM
BTW, don't expect Chris Samuels back this season, perhaps ever. That was no "stinger".
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 16, 2009 12:11PM
You may be right about Brennan being on IR. That limits the choices to Daniels or the old guy, Todd Collins. Neither of those are great choices, but it might be worth a try if Campbell struggles.
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Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: October 16, 2009 12:15PM
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> You may be right about Brennan being on IR.
Is it a legitimate IR injury? Or is some bullshit thing like when Joe Gibbs put Stan Humphries on IR for the entire season for a "blood disorder" - so he wouldn't lose him on waivers or some shit.
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> You may be right about Brennan being on IR.
Is it a legitimate IR injury? Or is some bullshit thing like when Joe Gibbs put Stan Humphries on IR for the entire season for a "blood disorder" - so he wouldn't lose him on waivers or some shit.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 16, 2009 02:08PM
Warhawk Wrote:
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> Numbers Wrote:
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> > You may be right about Brennan being on IR.
>
> Is it a legitimate IR injury? Or is some bullshit
> thing like when Joe Gibbs put Stan Humphries on IR
> for the entire season for a "blood disorder" - so
> he wouldn't lose him on waivers or some shit.
I don't know. But once you put a guy on IR, isn't he lost for the season regardless of his actual health?
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> Numbers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > You may be right about Brennan being on IR.
>
> Is it a legitimate IR injury? Or is some bullshit
> thing like when Joe Gibbs put Stan Humphries on IR
> for the entire season for a "blood disorder" - so
> he wouldn't lose him on waivers or some shit.
I don't know. But once you put a guy on IR, isn't he lost for the season regardless of his actual health?
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 16, 2009 02:25PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> The KC defense is better than
> the defenses the Skins faced with the Bucs and
> Rams. I expect Campbell to be harassed and hurried
> all game and forced into picks and fumbles.
Ummm KC has THE WORST DEFNESE IN THE LEAGUE.
This means that EVERYONE HAS A BETTER DEFENSE THAN THEY DO.
Does the Redskins Oline suck? Hell yeah but get your facts straight.
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> The KC defense is better than
> the defenses the Skins faced with the Bucs and
> Rams. I expect Campbell to be harassed and hurried
> all game and forced into picks and fumbles.
Ummm KC has THE WORST DEFNESE IN THE LEAGUE.
This means that EVERYONE HAS A BETTER DEFENSE THAN THEY DO.
Does the Redskins Oline suck? Hell yeah but get your facts straight.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Hatemotor
()
Date: October 16, 2009 07:05PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Numbers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Or they could install a faster, more mobile QB
> > that can roll out and escape a little better.
> > Campbell can't throw even when he isn't
> pressured,
> > so we won't be losing anything by putting
> Brennan
> > or Daniels in there.
>
>
>
> Isn't Brennan on IR for the season? I also wasn't
> very impressed with Chase Daniels. He has the
> will, but not the physical talents needed.
I'm pretty sure chase daniels is now on the Saints practice squad,,,,,,,
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> Numbers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Or they could install a faster, more mobile QB
> > that can roll out and escape a little better.
> > Campbell can't throw even when he isn't
> pressured,
> > so we won't be losing anything by putting
> Brennan
> > or Daniels in there.
>
>
>
> Isn't Brennan on IR for the season? I also wasn't
> very impressed with Chase Daniels. He has the
> will, but not the physical talents needed.
I'm pretty sure chase daniels is now on the Saints practice squad,,,,,,,
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Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: October 16, 2009 07:12PM
IR does mean he cannot return this year. But give me a break he'd be a disaster. Todd Collins has experience and a 5-1 record as a Redskins starter, Sonny J said the Redskins would be 5-0 if he was the starter. Not sure I buy that but Campbell is the only real option and sadly there are no great available qbs this offseason so will not get any better.
In the upcoming draft just draft all lineman. Give us a lot of depth and maybe sign a free agent receiver.
In the upcoming draft just draft all lineman. Give us a lot of depth and maybe sign a free agent receiver.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 16, 2009 07:28PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > The KC defense is better than
> > the defenses the Skins faced with the Bucs and
> > Rams. I expect Campbell to be harassed and
> hurried
> > all game and forced into picks and fumbles.
>
> Ummm KC has THE WORST DEFNESE IN THE LEAGUE.
>
> This means that EVERYONE HAS A BETTER DEFENSE THAN
> THEY DO.
>
> Does the Redskins Oline suck? Hell yeah but get
> your facts straight.
Actually, the Rams defense is worse than KC. And the Skins couldn't score a touchdown against the Rams defense.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > The KC defense is better than
> > the defenses the Skins faced with the Bucs and
> > Rams. I expect Campbell to be harassed and
> hurried
> > all game and forced into picks and fumbles.
>
> Ummm KC has THE WORST DEFNESE IN THE LEAGUE.
>
> This means that EVERYONE HAS A BETTER DEFENSE THAN
> THEY DO.
>
> Does the Redskins Oline suck? Hell yeah but get
> your facts straight.
Actually, the Rams defense is worse than KC. And the Skins couldn't score a touchdown against the Rams defense.
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Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 17, 2009 09:18PM
> I'm pretty sure chase daniels is now on the Saints
> practice squad,,,,,,,
He was released, no one has picked him up.
>
> Actually, the Rams defense is worse than KC. And
> the Skins couldn't score a touchdown against the
> Rams defense.
Actually, they do not. Again, KC has the worst defense in the league. Go to NFL.com and look it up. They are dead last.
> practice squad,,,,,,,
He was released, no one has picked him up.
>
> Actually, the Rams defense is worse than KC. And
> the Skins couldn't score a touchdown against the
> Rams defense.
Actually, they do not. Again, KC has the worst defense in the league. Go to NFL.com and look it up. They are dead last.
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Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 17, 2009 09:34PM
More Complete Wrote:
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>
> Actually, they do not. Again, KC has the worst
> defense in the league. Go to NFL.com and look it
> up. They are dead last.
I did. The Rams are dead last.
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>
> Actually, they do not. Again, KC has the worst
> defense in the league. Go to NFL.com and look it
> up. They are dead last.
I did. The Rams are dead last.
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Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 17, 2009 09:45PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> More Complete Wrote:
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>
> >
> > Actually, they do not. Again, KC has the worst
> > defense in the league. Go to NFL.com and look
> it
> > up. They are dead last.
>
>
> I did. The Rams are dead last.
For the third time, you are wrong.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
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> More Complete Wrote:
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>
> >
> > Actually, they do not. Again, KC has the worst
> > defense in the league. Go to NFL.com and look
> it
> > up. They are dead last.
>
>
> I did. The Rams are dead last.
For the third time, you are wrong.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 17, 2009 09:52PM
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> >
> > I did. The Rams are dead last.
>
> You're wrong.
>
> http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&de
> fensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL
> &role=OPP&season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TO
> TAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
I was using the NFL fantasy ranking. Also, the Rams have given up more points per game, as have the Bucs. As we have seen with the Skins offense, moving the ball up and down the field doesn't mean shit if you can't score in the Red Zone. KC has been more effective at stopping scoring than have the Rams or Bucs.
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> >
> > I did. The Rams are dead last.
>
> You're wrong.
>
> http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&de
> fensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL
> &role=OPP&season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TO
> TAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
I was using the NFL fantasy ranking. Also, the Rams have given up more points per game, as have the Bucs. As we have seen with the Skins offense, moving the ball up and down the field doesn't mean shit if you can't score in the Red Zone. KC has been more effective at stopping scoring than have the Rams or Bucs.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 17, 2009 10:00PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> I was using the NFL fantasy ranking. Also, the
> Rams have given up more points per game, as have
> the Bucs. As we have seen with the Skins offense,
> moving the ball up and down the field doesn't mean
> shit if you can't score in the Red Zone. KC has
> been more effective at stopping scoring than have
> the Rams or Bucs.
They have allowed the same amount of touchdowns as the bucs and only two less than the rams who have played tougher teams. KC is the worst defense in the league right now, period. End of story.
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>
> I was using the NFL fantasy ranking. Also, the
> Rams have given up more points per game, as have
> the Bucs. As we have seen with the Skins offense,
> moving the ball up and down the field doesn't mean
> shit if you can't score in the Red Zone. KC has
> been more effective at stopping scoring than have
> the Rams or Bucs.
They have allowed the same amount of touchdowns as the bucs and only two less than the rams who have played tougher teams. KC is the worst defense in the league right now, period. End of story.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 17, 2009 10:09PM
More Complete Wrote:
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>
> They have allowed the same amount of touchdowns as
> the bucs and only two less than the rams who have
> played tougher teams. KC is the worst defense in
> the league right now, period. End of story.
Have you even looked at the KC and Rams schedules?
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>
> They have allowed the same amount of touchdowns as
> the bucs and only two less than the rams who have
> played tougher teams. KC is the worst defense in
> the league right now, period. End of story.
Have you even looked at the KC and Rams schedules?
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: October 18, 2009 01:50PM
> More Complete Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > They have allowed the same amount of touchdowns
> as
> > the bucs and only two less than the rams who
> have
> > played tougher teams. KC is the worst defense
> in
> > the league right now, period. End of story.
>
> Have you even looked at the KC and Rams schedules?
More complete, Your an idiot. End of story. Talking out of your ass, check the facts before you run your mouth.
> --------------------------------------------------
> > They have allowed the same amount of touchdowns
> as
> > the bucs and only two less than the rams who
> have
> > played tougher teams. KC is the worst defense
> in
> > the league right now, period. End of story.
>
> Have you even looked at the KC and Rams schedules?
More complete, Your an idiot. End of story. Talking out of your ass, check the facts before you run your mouth.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 18, 2009 04:10PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More Complete Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > Actually, they do not. Again, KC has the
> worst
> > > defense in the league. Go to NFL.com and look
> > it
> > > up. They are dead last.
> >
> >
> > I did. The Rams are dead last.
>
> For the third time, you are wrong.
>
> http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&de
> fensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL
> &role=OPP&season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TO
> TAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
Nope. I'm not. Now shut the fuck up, you homer. You don't know shit. The Skins are a fucking disaster. They couldn't beat KC.
Tomorrow Snyder will fire Zorn and replace him with the OC who has never called a play at the NFL level. I originally predicted the Skins going 5-11 this season. I may have been wrong. I think 5-11 is too optimistic.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More Complete Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > Actually, they do not. Again, KC has the
> worst
> > > defense in the league. Go to NFL.com and look
> > it
> > > up. They are dead last.
> >
> >
> > I did. The Rams are dead last.
>
> For the third time, you are wrong.
>
> http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&de
> fensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL
> &role=OPP&season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TO
> TAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
Nope. I'm not. Now shut the fuck up, you homer. You don't know shit. The Skins are a fucking disaster. They couldn't beat KC.
Tomorrow Snyder will fire Zorn and replace him with the OC who has never called a play at the NFL level. I originally predicted the Skins going 5-11 this season. I may have been wrong. I think 5-11 is too optimistic.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: October 18, 2009 04:52PM
I'm hoping for it to happen before 60 Minutes comes on.
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I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 18, 2009 06:06PM
Where's that pussy "More Complete." When is he going to admit that I was right and he was a fuck up?
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 18, 2009 07:59PM
Scenes from today's game against KC.
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Posted by:
Lidiot
()
Date: October 18, 2009 08:07PM
TefD187 Wrote:
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> > More Complete Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > > They have allowed the same amount of
> touchdowns
> > as
> > > the bucs and only two less than the rams who
> > have
> > > played tougher teams. KC is the worst defense
> > in
> > > the league right now, period. End of story.
> >
> > Have you even looked at the KC and Rams
> schedules?
>
> More complete, Your an idiot. End of story.
> Talking out of your ass, check the facts before
> you run your mouth.
It really is such a failure when two loser idiots, on a forum about The Losers, argue over who is the biggest loser. In the end it doesn't matter..a loser is a loser is a loser idiot.
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> > More Complete Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > > They have allowed the same amount of
> touchdowns
> > as
> > > the bucs and only two less than the rams who
> > have
> > > played tougher teams. KC is the worst defense
> > in
> > > the league right now, period. End of story.
> >
> > Have you even looked at the KC and Rams
> schedules?
>
> More complete, Your an idiot. End of story.
> Talking out of your ass, check the facts before
> you run your mouth.
It really is such a failure when two loser idiots, on a forum about The Losers, argue over who is the biggest loser. In the end it doesn't matter..a loser is a loser is a loser idiot.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Captain Trips
()
Date: October 18, 2009 08:16PM
Okee Dokee
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Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: October 18, 2009 09:55PM
Czar Wrote:
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> grrr i hate haters. skins will win sunday.
Hey there Homer, how did your prediction go? Get your head out of the sand, this team is awful. They couldn't beat a drum!
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> grrr i hate haters. skins will win sunday.
Hey there Homer, how did your prediction go? Get your head out of the sand, this team is awful. They couldn't beat a drum!
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Posted by:
sigh
()
Date: October 18, 2009 10:05PM
i'm fucking ragequiting the redskins. this is embarrassing.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 19, 2009 09:52AM
TefD187 Wrote:
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> More complete, Your an idiot. End of story.
> Talking out of your ass, check the facts before
> you run your mouth.
Who the fuck are you? I checked the facts. You apparently did not. At the time of my post KC had the 32nd ranked defense in the league. What did you not comprehend?
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> More complete, Your an idiot. End of story.
> Talking out of your ass, check the facts before
> you run your mouth.
Who the fuck are you? I checked the facts. You apparently did not. At the time of my post KC had the 32nd ranked defense in the league. What did you not comprehend?
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 19, 2009 09:56AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Where's that pussy "More Complete." When is he
> going to admit that I was right and he was a fuck
> up?
Wow. You get upset easily. I was at the game, sorry I couldn't reply quick enough for you. I didn't say the Redskins would win, I said they were playing the worst defense in the NFL, and I was right. Calm down.
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> Where's that pussy "More Complete." When is he
> going to admit that I was right and he was a fuck
> up?
Wow. You get upset easily. I was at the game, sorry I couldn't reply quick enough for you. I didn't say the Redskins would win, I said they were playing the worst defense in the NFL, and I was right. Calm down.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: October 19, 2009 09:57AM
They were playing the worse defense in the league.....and got a whopping two field goals out of it. And to boot, got nailed for a SAFETY - something that should n.e.v.e.r. happen. Ever.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 19, 2009 10:48AM
More Complete Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where's that pussy "More Complete." When is he
> > going to admit that I was right and he was a
> fuck
> > up?
>
> Wow. You get upset easily. I was at the game,
> sorry I couldn't reply quick enough for you. I
> didn't say the Redskins would win, I said they
> were playing the worst defense in the NFL, and I
> was right. Calm down.
I'm sure Snyder appreciates the money you plunked down to watch his shit-fest of a team.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where's that pussy "More Complete." When is he
> > going to admit that I was right and he was a
> fuck
> > up?
>
> Wow. You get upset easily. I was at the game,
> sorry I couldn't reply quick enough for you. I
> didn't say the Redskins would win, I said they
> were playing the worst defense in the NFL, and I
> was right. Calm down.
I'm sure Snyder appreciates the money you plunked down to watch his shit-fest of a team.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
mcsmack
()
Date: October 19, 2009 11:01AM
Kansas Cities defense has been improving markedly and the offense is catching up making them somewhat underrated. Knowing this there was no excuse not to be prepared for yesterdays game.
The Skins and their fans have no soul at this point. Dan Snyder destroyed them.
Snyder absolutely refuses to believe there is any one on this earth smarter about anything than himself. I've known people like him my whole life. He'll blame everyone else but himself for his failures. Truly immature. Six Flags I'm sure is the economies fault, Right Dan?
His foray into the NFL proves one thing,... even idiots in this country can become millionaires. I hope the little dumbshit eventually gets his stupid "Futball" team in Europe. You know those crazy kooky soccer fans! If Snyder does for the Tottenham Hotspur F.C. soccer team as hes done for the Red Skins the fans would burn down his precious little stadium right damn NOW! And it would be funny watching the little bitch jump around when it happens
The Skins and their fans have no soul at this point. Dan Snyder destroyed them.
Snyder absolutely refuses to believe there is any one on this earth smarter about anything than himself. I've known people like him my whole life. He'll blame everyone else but himself for his failures. Truly immature. Six Flags I'm sure is the economies fault, Right Dan?
His foray into the NFL proves one thing,... even idiots in this country can become millionaires. I hope the little dumbshit eventually gets his stupid "Futball" team in Europe. You know those crazy kooky soccer fans! If Snyder does for the Tottenham Hotspur F.C. soccer team as hes done for the Red Skins the fans would burn down his precious little stadium right damn NOW! And it would be funny watching the little bitch jump around when it happens
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 19, 2009 11:07AM
Dan Snyder reminds me of William Durant, the founder of General Motors. He was a high-flying mogul. But, because of his own ego, he ended up broke and running a bowling alley in Flint, Michigan. I have a feeling a similar fate is in store for our Danny Boy.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 19, 2009 11:14AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
>
> I'm sure Snyder appreciates the money you plunked
> down to watch his shit-fest of a team.
Didn't pay for the tickets. Go root for the Ravens bandwagon guy.
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>
>
> I'm sure Snyder appreciates the money you plunked
> down to watch his shit-fest of a team.
Didn't pay for the tickets. Go root for the Ravens bandwagon guy.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 19, 2009 11:15AM
ITRADE Wrote:
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> They were playing the worse defense in the
> league.....and got a whopping two field goals out
> of it. And to boot, got nailed for a SAFETY -
> something that should n.e.v.e.r. happen. Ever.
Yep. Pathetic indeed.
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> They were playing the worse defense in the
> league.....and got a whopping two field goals out
> of it. And to boot, got nailed for a SAFETY -
> something that should n.e.v.e.r. happen. Ever.
Yep. Pathetic indeed.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 19, 2009 11:15AM
More Complete Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> >
> > I'm sure Snyder appreciates the money you
> plunked
> > down to watch his shit-fest of a team.
>
> Didn't pay for the tickets. Go root for the Ravens
> bandwagon guy.
I've been a Ravens fan for 10 years, so I'm not sure how I am a "bandwagon guy."
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> >
> > I'm sure Snyder appreciates the money you
> plunked
> > down to watch his shit-fest of a team.
>
> Didn't pay for the tickets. Go root for the Ravens
> bandwagon guy.
I've been a Ravens fan for 10 years, so I'm not sure how I am a "bandwagon guy."
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 19, 2009 11:16AM
More Complete Wrote:
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> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They were playing the worse defense in the
> > league.....and got a whopping two field goals
> out
> > of it. And to boot, got nailed for a SAFETY -
> > something that should n.e.v.e.r. happen. Ever.
>
>
> Yep. Pathetic indeed.
Wasn't that two safeties in two weeks? Has that ever happened to an NFL team before?
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> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They were playing the worse defense in the
> > league.....and got a whopping two field goals
> out
> > of it. And to boot, got nailed for a SAFETY -
> > something that should n.e.v.e.r. happen. Ever.
>
>
> Yep. Pathetic indeed.
Wasn't that two safeties in two weeks? Has that ever happened to an NFL team before?
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: October 19, 2009 12:50PM
It was indeed two safeties in two weeks.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
mcsmack
()
Date: October 19, 2009 01:08PM
ITRADE Wrote:
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> It was indeed two safeties in two weeks.
The NFL team record for safeties in a game is three, by the Los Angeles Rams against the New York Giants on September 30, 1984.[9] The individual record is two, by the Rams' Fred Dryer against the Green Bay Packers on October 21, 1973.
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> It was indeed two safeties in two weeks.
The NFL team record for safeties in a game is three, by the Los Angeles Rams against the New York Giants on September 30, 1984.[9] The individual record is two, by the Rams' Fred Dryer against the Green Bay Packers on October 21, 1973.
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Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: October 19, 2009 01:27PM
ITRADE Wrote:
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> It was indeed two safeties in two weeks.
How sad. The only end-zone the Redskins offense can get into is its own!
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> It was indeed two safeties in two weeks.
How sad. The only end-zone the Redskins offense can get into is its own!
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Posted by:
mcsmack
()
Date: October 19, 2009 02:37PM
Mr Captcha Wrote:
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> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It was indeed two safeties in two weeks.
>
> How sad. The only end-zone the Redskins offense
> can get into is its own!
There is one more thing they could try
The NFL also has a one-point "conversion safety" rule, but such a safety can only be scored by the offense. According to former NFL referee Jerry Markbreit:
Under NFL rules, an unsuccessful extra-point is dead if kicked, but while attempting a two-point try, it is possible for a safety to be ruled if the defensive team forces the ball back into their own end zone and they recover. One point would be awarded [to the offense], instead of the two points that are normally awarded for safeties. Although the offense would still kick off, since they just scored a touchdown.[8]
This scenario would cover a situation where, for example, an offensive player fumbles the ball short of the goal line on a 2-point try, a defensive player knocks the loose ball into the end zone, and a co-defender falls on it to prevent an offensive player from retrieving it for a two-point conversion. The offense would receive one point for the conversion safety, and then they would kick off as they normally would after a touchdown.
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> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It was indeed two safeties in two weeks.
>
> How sad. The only end-zone the Redskins offense
> can get into is its own!
There is one more thing they could try
The NFL also has a one-point "conversion safety" rule, but such a safety can only be scored by the offense. According to former NFL referee Jerry Markbreit:
Under NFL rules, an unsuccessful extra-point is dead if kicked, but while attempting a two-point try, it is possible for a safety to be ruled if the defensive team forces the ball back into their own end zone and they recover. One point would be awarded [to the offense], instead of the two points that are normally awarded for safeties. Although the offense would still kick off, since they just scored a touchdown.[8]
This scenario would cover a situation where, for example, an offensive player fumbles the ball short of the goal line on a 2-point try, a defensive player knocks the loose ball into the end zone, and a co-defender falls on it to prevent an offensive player from retrieving it for a two-point conversion. The offense would receive one point for the conversion safety, and then they would kick off as they normally would after a touchdown.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 20, 2009 02:35PM
Zorn just said on the Radio that only three guys currently on the Redskins offense could start for the Seahawks... Cooley, Moss and Portis. He's taking shots at the front office for giving him crap talent to work with. Notice he didn't metion JC. He knows he is gone and is going out guns a blazin, telling his side, medium style. I feel bad for him.
I think one thing is for sure, the Bye week means Bye-Bye for Jim Zorn.
I think one thing is for sure, the Bye week means Bye-Bye for Jim Zorn.
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 20, 2009 03:12PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> Zorn just said on the Radio that only three guys
> currently on the Redskins offense could start for
> the Seahawks... Cooley, Moss and Portis. He's
> taking shots at the front office for giving him
> crap talent to work with. Notice he didn't metion
> JC. He knows he is gone and is going out guns a
> blazin, telling his side, medium style. I feel bad
> for him.
>
> I think one thing is for sure, the Bye week means
> Bye-Bye for Jim Zorn.
Jim Zorn is going to leave this town a folk hero. Obviously he wants to create a situation where Danny Boy gets so pissed he fires him (versus losing a big payday by quitting). I have to give Zorny some credit. He can be a douchebag, too, when the situation warrants it.
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> Zorn just said on the Radio that only three guys
> currently on the Redskins offense could start for
> the Seahawks... Cooley, Moss and Portis. He's
> taking shots at the front office for giving him
> crap talent to work with. Notice he didn't metion
> JC. He knows he is gone and is going out guns a
> blazin, telling his side, medium style. I feel bad
> for him.
>
> I think one thing is for sure, the Bye week means
> Bye-Bye for Jim Zorn.
Jim Zorn is going to leave this town a folk hero. Obviously he wants to create a situation where Danny Boy gets so pissed he fires him (versus losing a big payday by quitting). I have to give Zorny some credit. He can be a douchebag, too, when the situation warrants it.
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Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Fuck the Skins
()
Date: July 20, 2014 03:28AM
How bout dem BOYZ
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
STFU liberal nigger
()
Date: July 20, 2014 09:52AM
Fuck the Skins Wrote:
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> How bout dem BOYZ
STFU liberal nigger
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> How bout dem BOYZ
STFU liberal nigger
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
UMADBRO
()
Date: August 29, 2014 03:14AM
STFU liberal nigger Wrote:
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> Fuck the Skins Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How bout dem BOYZ
>
>
> STFU liberal nigger
YUMADBRO?
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> Fuck the Skins Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How bout dem BOYZ
>
>
> STFU liberal nigger
YUMADBRO?
Re: FIRE ZORN!
Posted by:
Arthur Jackson Jr.
()
Date: August 29, 2014 09:33AM
Zorn isn't even the coach anymore! You people are crazy.
I like cats.
I like cats.