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You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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The Kenyan president Obama
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Date: February 21, 2017 06:39PM
Sneaky bastard caught again sending weapons to his people. He had to do something since he sent 221 million to his Muslim brothers on his last day.
A group of lawmakers is planning to request a congressional investigation of a $418 million U.S. weapons sale to Kenya approved by the Obama administration on its last day in office.
The sale, approved by the State Department and privately notified to Congress on January 19, would allow Kenya to buy 14 weaponized crop-duster-like planes — including two trainer planes and services, for missions against terrorist group al-Shabaab.
The deal was publicly announced the Monday after Trump’s inauguration.
A group of lawmakers is planning to request a congressional investigation of a $418 million U.S. weapons sale to Kenya approved by the Obama administration on its last day in office.
The sale, approved by the State Department and privately notified to Congress on January 19, would allow Kenya to buy 14 weaponized crop-duster-like planes — including two trainer planes and services, for missions against terrorist group al-Shabaab.
The deal was publicly announced the Monday after Trump’s inauguration.
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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HtCwC
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Date: February 21, 2017 08:29PM
> weaponized crop-duster-like planes
Wasn't there a Will Smith movie about that?
Wasn't there a Will Smith movie about that?
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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Not the full story
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Date: February 22, 2017 08:42AM
The only reason they want to open an investigation on this is because of the company contracted for the work. The company L3 who won the bid does not specialize the type of plane in the order. Lawmakers want to know why Obama went with that company instead of a company in North Carolina who actually makes the plane and who would do it at a cost of only $220mill.
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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oh yeah, right
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Date: February 22, 2017 09:24AM
Yeah, that's it. Doing on the last day at 4:59 doesn't look suspicious at all. Just too busy the other 7 years, 364 days, 7 hours i guess.
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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Dr. Memory
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Date: February 22, 2017 10:16AM
My guess would be there is an existing L3 contract of the "Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity" type, with sufficient funding to make the $400 million procurement.
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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Snowflake conspiracy theorist
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Date: February 22, 2017 10:34AM
The Kenyan president Obama Wrote:
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> Sneaky bastard caught again sending weapons to his
> people. He had to do something since he sent 221
> million to his Muslim brothers on his last day.
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He's gone and you're STILL butthurt about him???
How are you ever going Make 'Murica Great Again?
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> Sneaky bastard caught again sending weapons to his
> people. He had to do something since he sent 221
> million to his Muslim brothers on his last day.
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He's gone and you're STILL butthurt about him???
How are you ever going Make 'Murica Great Again?
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Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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Fraud or Misunderstanding?
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Date: February 22, 2017 10:36AM
A US congressman is seeking to halt Kenya's pending $418 million weapons purchase from an American contractor.
Nairobi aims to acquire ammunition, machine guns, rocket launchers, and guided bombs mounted on 12 Air Tractors converted agricultural aircraft intended to bolster the Kenya Defence Forces' campaign against Al-Shabaab.
“My office has received credible allegations of faulty contracting practices, fraud and unfair treatment surrounding this sale,” Congressman Ted Budd said on Tuesday.
Probe deal
In urging his colleagues to block and investigate the deal, the North Carolina Republican said a company in his home state would sell Kenya planes better suited for their envisioned purpose at less than half the quoted price.
Kenyan military officials were set to meet with their United States Department of Defence counterparts in March to finalise the purchase. A US State Department official said no deal or actual price had been agreed yet.
The US Congress must approve the sale of the dozen Air Tractors AT-802L, two trainer planes and related weapons systems manufactured by L-3 Communications, a Texas-based company.
Congressman Budd is charging that the sale contract was awarded to L-3 Communications without competitive bidding, which, he said, “has no experience or track record producing this kind of aircraft.”
Fraud
IOMAX, a company based in the congressman's own district, can deliver to Kenya a more appropriate and proven type of aircraft for $283 million less than L-3's price, Mr Budd said.
“We need to ensure that Kenya, a long-time ally, is getting a fair deal, and that veteran-owned small businesses in our state aren’t getting shut out of competition because of government favouritism towards giant contractors,” the congressman declared.
He did not elaborate on the purported fraud involved in Kenya's deal with L-3, which has been given clearance by the US State Department.
Confused Kenya
A military monitoring news organisation based in London reported on Thursday that Kenya may have confused the AT-802L made by L-3 in Texas with an AT-802 aircraft manufactured by IOMAX in North Carolina.
Based on comments from an anonymous source said to be familiar with the deal, IHS Jane's Defence Weekly reported: “Kenya requested the AT-802L from Air Tractor and its systems-integration partner (and prime) L3 Technologies on the basis of it being an already in service and combat-proven platform, confusing it with the IOMAX-developed AT-802 and the follow-on Archangel Border Patrol Aircraft (BPA) that have been sold to the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and regional allies.”
“As of yesterday,” the source added, “Kenya was completely unaware that L3 was not the company who built the 48 [IOMAX] aircraft [delivered to the UAE]."
According to a leaked “background document” cited by Jane's, IOMAX is at present “the only contractor with a manned and weaponised BPA airframe approved for export from the United States.”
A key business advantage for IOMAX, the document adds, is its ability “to provide an integrated, weaponised platform suitable for equipping and firing laser-guided munitions from a purpose-built airframe.”
The State Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Congressman Budd's charges.
http://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2017/Feb/140560/us_congressman_seeks_to_stop_kenya_s_418m_arms_deal.aspx
Nairobi aims to acquire ammunition, machine guns, rocket launchers, and guided bombs mounted on 12 Air Tractors converted agricultural aircraft intended to bolster the Kenya Defence Forces' campaign against Al-Shabaab.
“My office has received credible allegations of faulty contracting practices, fraud and unfair treatment surrounding this sale,” Congressman Ted Budd said on Tuesday.
Probe deal
In urging his colleagues to block and investigate the deal, the North Carolina Republican said a company in his home state would sell Kenya planes better suited for their envisioned purpose at less than half the quoted price.
Kenyan military officials were set to meet with their United States Department of Defence counterparts in March to finalise the purchase. A US State Department official said no deal or actual price had been agreed yet.
The US Congress must approve the sale of the dozen Air Tractors AT-802L, two trainer planes and related weapons systems manufactured by L-3 Communications, a Texas-based company.
Congressman Budd is charging that the sale contract was awarded to L-3 Communications without competitive bidding, which, he said, “has no experience or track record producing this kind of aircraft.”
Fraud
IOMAX, a company based in the congressman's own district, can deliver to Kenya a more appropriate and proven type of aircraft for $283 million less than L-3's price, Mr Budd said.
“We need to ensure that Kenya, a long-time ally, is getting a fair deal, and that veteran-owned small businesses in our state aren’t getting shut out of competition because of government favouritism towards giant contractors,” the congressman declared.
He did not elaborate on the purported fraud involved in Kenya's deal with L-3, which has been given clearance by the US State Department.
Confused Kenya
A military monitoring news organisation based in London reported on Thursday that Kenya may have confused the AT-802L made by L-3 in Texas with an AT-802 aircraft manufactured by IOMAX in North Carolina.
Based on comments from an anonymous source said to be familiar with the deal, IHS Jane's Defence Weekly reported: “Kenya requested the AT-802L from Air Tractor and its systems-integration partner (and prime) L3 Technologies on the basis of it being an already in service and combat-proven platform, confusing it with the IOMAX-developed AT-802 and the follow-on Archangel Border Patrol Aircraft (BPA) that have been sold to the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and regional allies.”
“As of yesterday,” the source added, “Kenya was completely unaware that L3 was not the company who built the 48 [IOMAX] aircraft [delivered to the UAE]."
According to a leaked “background document” cited by Jane's, IOMAX is at present “the only contractor with a manned and weaponised BPA airframe approved for export from the United States.”
A key business advantage for IOMAX, the document adds, is its ability “to provide an integrated, weaponised platform suitable for equipping and firing laser-guided munitions from a purpose-built airframe.”
The State Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Congressman Budd's charges.
http://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2017/Feb/140560/us_congressman_seeks_to_stop_kenya_s_418m_arms_deal.aspx
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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not gonna happen
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Date: February 22, 2017 10:43AM
Obama just wasting time during his final days.
IN SUMMARY
The military order that also includes technical support services, is now awaiting the approval of the US Congress Department of Defence Committee chaired by Republican Senator John McCain.
At $418 million, this could be Kenya’s single-largest weapons purchase, an amount that is more than double the $187 million that the country spent on new stock of arms in the past five years, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), an arms trade monitoring agency.
There is no deal yet: No contract has been signed; no actual price has been agreed. This may still take months or years or it may never happen.
http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/USD418m-Kenya-US-arms-deal/2558-3793410-lr1l2j/index.html
IN SUMMARY
The military order that also includes technical support services, is now awaiting the approval of the US Congress Department of Defence Committee chaired by Republican Senator John McCain.
At $418 million, this could be Kenya’s single-largest weapons purchase, an amount that is more than double the $187 million that the country spent on new stock of arms in the past five years, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), an arms trade monitoring agency.
There is no deal yet: No contract has been signed; no actual price has been agreed. This may still take months or years or it may never happen.
http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/USD418m-Kenya-US-arms-deal/2558-3793410-lr1l2j/index.html
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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Air Tractors
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Date: February 22, 2017 10:47AM
Economists, however, questioned the value for money in the military hardware plan, saying the Sh43 billion was too much, given the multiple competing public needs like food security, better healthcare and education.
“That’s a huge sum and we need to question value for the expenditure,” said Kwame Owino, the chief executive at the Institute of Economic Affairs.
The planned arms spending accounts for nearly a third of the Department of Defence’s budget of Sh124 billion in the current financial year.
Mr Owino said the parliamentary committee on Defence should open an audit on the arms deal to ensure value for taxpayers’ cash.
“Amisom has no budget for air force operations in Somalia, so where is that cash going to come from?” asked Mr Franklin.
The prime contractor for the Air Tractor aircraft is L-3 Communications, Platform Integration Division, of Waco, Texas.
Though the State Department has approved the sale, it must still get Congress’ approval before it can be executed.
“Implementation of this proposed sale requires the assignment of at least five contractor representatives in Kenya,” said the US security agency.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kenya-Obama-Sh43bn-US-arms-/539546-3786130-view-printVersion-mnrw9fz/index.html
“That’s a huge sum and we need to question value for the expenditure,” said Kwame Owino, the chief executive at the Institute of Economic Affairs.
The planned arms spending accounts for nearly a third of the Department of Defence’s budget of Sh124 billion in the current financial year.
Mr Owino said the parliamentary committee on Defence should open an audit on the arms deal to ensure value for taxpayers’ cash.
“Amisom has no budget for air force operations in Somalia, so where is that cash going to come from?” asked Mr Franklin.
The prime contractor for the Air Tractor aircraft is L-3 Communications, Platform Integration Division, of Waco, Texas.
Though the State Department has approved the sale, it must still get Congress’ approval before it can be executed.
“Implementation of this proposed sale requires the assignment of at least five contractor representatives in Kenya,” said the US security agency.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kenya-Obama-Sh43bn-US-arms-/539546-3786130-view-printVersion-mnrw9fz/index.html
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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mbe3G
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Date: February 22, 2017 11:22AM
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jjnu7
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Date: February 22, 2017 12:37PM
The Kenyan president Obama Wrote:
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> Sneaky bastard caught again sending weapons to his
> people. He had to do something since he sent 221
> million to his Muslim brothers on his last day.
>
> A group of lawmakers is planning to request a
> congressional investigation of a $418 million U.S.
> weapons sale to Kenya approved by the Obama
> administration on its last day in office.
> The sale, approved by the State Department and
> privately notified to Congress on January 19,
> would allow Kenya to buy 14 weaponized
> crop-duster-like planes — including two trainer
> planes and services, for missions against
> terrorist group al-Shabaab.
>
> The deal was publicly announced the Monday after
> Trump’s inauguration.
so with a "proper sale" (if obama did that), usa would defer cost and have most steel on hand in trillions of tons on the continent
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> Sneaky bastard caught again sending weapons to his
> people. He had to do something since he sent 221
> million to his Muslim brothers on his last day.
>
> A group of lawmakers is planning to request a
> congressional investigation of a $418 million U.S.
> weapons sale to Kenya approved by the Obama
> administration on its last day in office.
> The sale, approved by the State Department and
> privately notified to Congress on January 19,
> would allow Kenya to buy 14 weaponized
> crop-duster-like planes — including two trainer
> planes and services, for missions against
> terrorist group al-Shabaab.
>
> The deal was publicly announced the Monday after
> Trump’s inauguration.
#1 AT WHAT PRICE SHITHEAD. STUPIDEST POST I EVER HEARD. $419 million for how many with what if any service contract?
You should be clapping they bought USA not euro small aircraft.
The sale of non-secret weapons defers cost of developing a war winning military.
It's information leaks (ie, due to having fucking foreigners in Wash. D.C. etc) of strategic assets, and the assets (ie, fx co gov using fx co gov waste facility as a way to send working old PCs to foreign countries "as recycled", to allow metals from the dump to go overseas)
Two things a nation does not want to be stripped of by democrats:
secret weapons of mass destruction - that democrats are always requesting "information on"
access to allot of OIL - shitloads of it
STEEL and brass - shitloads of it
so with a "proper sale" (if obama did that), usa would defer cost and have most steel on hand in trillions of tons on the continent
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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yX9cw
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Date: February 22, 2017 12:40PM
attributing it to obama? likely not true.
rushed to sale before the change of office interfered with sale? maybe
unusual for usa to sell weapons? absolutely not.
does it help the world? not usually, but sometimes.
rushed to sale before the change of office interfered with sale? maybe
unusual for usa to sell weapons? absolutely not.
does it help the world? not usually, but sometimes.
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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Clinton Scandal?
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Date: February 22, 2017 03:22PM
This scandal seems to be more about awarding a $418 million contract to a political contributor, circumventing the laws that require competitive bidding.
Will someone go to jail? Depends on how far along they were before getting caught.
Will someone go to jail? Depends on how far along they were before getting caught.
Re: You did not think Obama would forget his people on his last day in office did you?
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lets face it
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Date: February 22, 2017 03:40PM
They only had to expose this because the dems lost. Otherwise.....shhhhhh.
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