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Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
DemoCRAPS
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Date: January 16, 2017 05:52PM
Suck it up Buttercups! Niggers, foreigners, and Jews
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Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Dr. Memory
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Date: January 16, 2017 06:19PM
They have the same right to freedom of speech that you do.
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Posted by:
CLCwN
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Date: January 16, 2017 06:26PM
And yet should be setting an example for others instead of acting like petulant children.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
President Elect Trump
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Date: January 16, 2017 06:30PM
Trust me. I won't lose a second of sleep because of these idiots.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Nigs gotta nig
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Date: January 16, 2017 06:33PM
Here is a list of all the Republicans who boycotted Obama's two inaugurations and referred to his election as illegitimate:
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Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Good move
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Date: January 16, 2017 06:34PM
Who gets to use their seats?
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
ttreet
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Date: January 16, 2017 07:26PM
America is being told to cry, disrupt, and dma till u get ur way...in other countries u would get killed for this. Let them and all alike live there.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
byV3G
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Date: January 16, 2017 07:42PM
22 here. Erin Burnett just reported it's up to 27 now.
Who would be upset if every single Democrat stayed away?
Who would be upset if every single Democrat stayed away?
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Worthless Leeches
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Date: January 16, 2017 08:15PM
None of that bunch is worth a flying fuck anyway and they know it.
They wont be missed.
They wont be missed.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Libtard lives matter
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Date: January 16, 2017 08:38PM
Nobody needs them. Trump can pursue his entire agenda without needing to ever reach out to these losers. They know just how worthless they are so don't need to even put up the pretense of being cooperative by showing up.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
KKKillary KKKlinton.
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Date: January 16, 2017 08:41PM
Lol! Who cares? Nobody even knows who they are but everyone knows they hate America.
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Posted by:
Typical democrat
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Date: January 16, 2017 08:41PM
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Posted by:
Libtardz! Lolz!
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Date: January 16, 2017 08:47PM
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Posted by:
Yet...
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Date: January 16, 2017 08:57PM
The only surprize is that Connolly isn't on the list.
Probably still waiting for some poll testing to come in before deciding on his moral position.
Probably still waiting for some poll testing to come in before deciding on his moral position.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
dbl pst
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Date: January 16, 2017 09:02PM
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Oh Behave!
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Date: January 16, 2017 11:10PM
Add this local bozo to the list: Don Beyer
http://patch.com/virginia/annandale/s/g03mx/congressman-don-beyer-i-am-not-attending-trumps-inauguration
http://patch.com/virginia/annandale/s/g03mx/congressman-don-beyer-i-am-not-attending-trumps-inauguration
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Bernie was right
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Date: January 17, 2017 12:14AM
HAHAHA they need to be rounded up and shot like Saddam did, that would make good reality TV!
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Kill libtards
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Date: January 17, 2017 12:25AM
Bernie was right Wrote:
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> HAHAHA they need to be rounded up and shot like
> Saddam did, that would make good reality TV!
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> HAHAHA they need to be rounded up and shot like
> Saddam did, that would make good reality TV!
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Posted by:
It matters not
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Date: January 17, 2017 12:42AM
Oh Behave! Wrote:
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> Add this local bozo to the list: Don Beyer
>
> http://patch.com/virginia/annandale/s/g03mx/congre
> ssman-don-beyer-i-am-not-attending-trumps-inaugura
> tion
Laughing at these dopes.
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> Add this local bozo to the list: Don Beyer
>
> http://patch.com/virginia/annandale/s/g03mx/congre
> ssman-don-beyer-i-am-not-attending-trumps-inaugura
> tion
Laughing at these dopes.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Dirty Donnie
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Date: January 17, 2017 01:23AM
Nigs gotta nig Wrote:
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> Here is a list of all the Republicans who
> boycotted Obama's two inaugurations and referred
> to his election as illegitimate:
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> .
That's because, unlike Trump, Obama's election was legitimate.
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> Here is a list of all the Republicans who
> boycotted Obama's two inaugurations and referred
> to his election as illegitimate:
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>
>
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>
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>
> .
That's because, unlike Trump, Obama's election was legitimate.
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Posted by:
Libtardz! Lolz!
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Date: January 17, 2017 01:32AM
Dirty Donnie Wrote:
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> Nigs gotta nig Wrote:
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> > Here is a list of all the Republicans who
> > boycotted Obama's two inaugurations and
> referred
> > to his election as illegitimate:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
>
> That's because, unlike Trump, Obama's election was
> legitimate.
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> Nigs gotta nig Wrote:
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> > Here is a list of all the Republicans who
> > boycotted Obama's two inaugurations and
> referred
> > to his election as illegitimate:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
>
> That's because, unlike Trump, Obama's election was
> legitimate.
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Posted by:
Yxdmv
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Date: January 17, 2017 04:13AM
Bernie was right Wrote:
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> HAHAHA they need to be rounded up and shot like
> Saddam did, that would make good reality TV!
I hope not. I would spank to watching that until my dick caught fire.
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> HAHAHA they need to be rounded up and shot like
> Saddam did, that would make good reality TV!
I hope not. I would spank to watching that until my dick caught fire.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Lib / Dem hater
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Date: January 17, 2017 07:08AM
> That's because, unlike Trump, Obama's election was
> legitimate.
Keep telling yourselves that, Snowflakes!
Possibly his first one was, but there was so much lies, deceit, rigging and corruption in the second one that it was difficult not to notice!
> legitimate.
Keep telling yourselves that, Snowflakes!
Possibly his first one was, but there was so much lies, deceit, rigging and corruption in the second one that it was difficult not to notice!
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
TrumpTardss
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Date: January 17, 2017 07:17AM
Lib / Dem hater Wrote:
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> > That's because, unlike Trump, Obama's election
> was
> > legitimate.
>
> Keep telling yourselves that, Snowflakes!
> Possibly his first one was, but there was so much
> lies, deceit, rigging and corruption in the second
> one that it was difficult not to notice!
The electoral college got him in, the majority of the US voted for her by more than 3m votes.
More Trump hypocrisy!!
Yes, I know he won and I have accepted it. There is nothing I can do till mid-term elections.
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> > That's because, unlike Trump, Obama's election
> was
> > legitimate.
>
> Keep telling yourselves that, Snowflakes!
> Possibly his first one was, but there was so much
> lies, deceit, rigging and corruption in the second
> one that it was difficult not to notice!
The electoral college got him in, the majority of the US voted for her by more than 3m votes.
More Trump hypocrisy!!
Yes, I know he won and I have accepted it. There is nothing I can do till mid-term elections.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Sniff sniff
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Date: January 17, 2017 09:19AM
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Posted by:
Unimpressed
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Date: January 17, 2017 09:31AM
Hillary will be attending -- showing more class than any of these posers.
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There's only one reason
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Date: January 17, 2017 09:54AM
Unimpressed Wrote:
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> Hillary will be attending -- showing more class
> than any of these posers.
Hillary just wants a front seat. Remember, she has had others eliminated after they have crossed her. She knows what will happen and when. Hopefully the secret service can stop it before it happens!
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> Hillary will be attending -- showing more class
> than any of these posers.
Hillary just wants a front seat. Remember, she has had others eliminated after they have crossed her. She knows what will happen and when. Hopefully the secret service can stop it before it happens!
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Lbpff
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Date: January 17, 2017 09:58AM
Unimpressed Wrote:
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> Hillary will be attending -- showing more class
> than any of these posers.
Beyer needs to grow a brain.
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> Hillary will be attending -- showing more class
> than any of these posers.
Beyer needs to grow a brain.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Reality will bite you in the ass
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Date: January 17, 2017 10:21AM
We've all 'lost' with Trump.
Some of us just realize it sooner.
Some of us just realize it sooner.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Chill
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Date: January 17, 2017 10:43AM
Reality will bite you in the ass Wrote:
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> We've all 'lost' with Trump.
>
> Some of us just realize it sooner.
Such a selfish comment. Those holding-on to jobs or finding work see things differently.
"Earlier in January, Ford announced that it was canceling plans to build a plant in Mexico and would offer 700 new jobs in the U.S. Dow Chemical, Carrier, IBM, SoftBank and OneWeb have all made similar announcements regarding hiring."
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/313953-trump-team-takes-credit-for-amazon-hiring-spree
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> We've all 'lost' with Trump.
>
> Some of us just realize it sooner.
Such a selfish comment. Those holding-on to jobs or finding work see things differently.
"Earlier in January, Ford announced that it was canceling plans to build a plant in Mexico and would offer 700 new jobs in the U.S. Dow Chemical, Carrier, IBM, SoftBank and OneWeb have all made similar announcements regarding hiring."
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/313953-trump-team-takes-credit-for-amazon-hiring-spree
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
4 more years?
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Date: January 17, 2017 10:54AM
Trump will def be prez for 8 years.
Hopefully, Congress can find away to ensure that he can run again for a third term. No reason to allow liberal scum anywhere near power again.
Hopefully, Congress can find away to ensure that he can run again for a third term. No reason to allow liberal scum anywhere near power again.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Hiccup
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Date: January 17, 2017 11:14AM
There's only one reason Wrote:
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> Unimpressed Wrote:
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> -----
> > Hillary will be attending -- showing more class
> > than any of these posers.
>
> Hillary just wants a front seat. Remember, she has
> had others eliminated after they have crossed her.
> She knows what will happen and when. Hopefully the
> secret service can stop it before it happens!
Trump will be giving Hilary a position in his cabinet. Mark my words.
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> Unimpressed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hillary will be attending -- showing more class
> > than any of these posers.
>
> Hillary just wants a front seat. Remember, she has
> had others eliminated after they have crossed her.
> She knows what will happen and when. Hopefully the
> secret service can stop it before it happens!
Trump will be giving Hilary a position in his cabinet. Mark my words.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
P6umm
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Date: January 17, 2017 11:16AM
Chill Wrote:
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> Reality will bite you in the ass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We've all 'lost' with Trump.
> >
> > Some of us just realize it sooner.
>
> Such a selfish comment. Those holding-on to jobs
> or finding work see things differently.
>
> "Earlier in January, Ford announced that it was
> canceling plans to build a plant in Mexico and
> would offer 700 new jobs in the U.S. Dow Chemical,
> Carrier, IBM, SoftBank and OneWeb have all made
> similar announcements regarding hiring."
>
> http://thehill.com/policy/technology/313953-trump-
> team-takes-credit-for-amazon-hiring-spree
Trump had NOTHING to do with most of what he credits.
Speaking of 'selfish' look at the FACTS and pay attention to his misleading statements.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/12/05/trumps-misleading-numbers-about-the-carrier-deal/?utm_term=.662432ab3e7b
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-sprint-jobs-233019
The Dow Chemical is 100 jobs (less than 1% of their workforce) it's hype and part of their typical business cycle.
IBM already had 20k of the 25k announced jobs LAST MAY UNDER OBAMA.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/23/technology/ibm-jobs/
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> Reality will bite you in the ass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We've all 'lost' with Trump.
> >
> > Some of us just realize it sooner.
>
> Such a selfish comment. Those holding-on to jobs
> or finding work see things differently.
>
> "Earlier in January, Ford announced that it was
> canceling plans to build a plant in Mexico and
> would offer 700 new jobs in the U.S. Dow Chemical,
> Carrier, IBM, SoftBank and OneWeb have all made
> similar announcements regarding hiring."
>
> http://thehill.com/policy/technology/313953-trump-
> team-takes-credit-for-amazon-hiring-spree
Trump had NOTHING to do with most of what he credits.
Speaking of 'selfish' look at the FACTS and pay attention to his misleading statements.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/12/05/trumps-misleading-numbers-about-the-carrier-deal/?utm_term=.662432ab3e7b
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-sprint-jobs-233019
The Dow Chemical is 100 jobs (less than 1% of their workforce) it's hype and part of their typical business cycle.
IBM already had 20k of the 25k announced jobs LAST MAY UNDER OBAMA.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/23/technology/ibm-jobs/
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Posted by:
lock her up
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Date: January 17, 2017 11:38AM
Crooked Hillary and Barry Soetero need to be imprisoned for the war crimes and treason.
MAGA
BTW, do a public service and if you are in DC this week and accosted by liberal scum please do your best to destroy it. Please think about the children and the future of the gene pool and help irradicate these mindless pukes.
MAGA
BTW, do a public service and if you are in DC this week and accosted by liberal scum please do your best to destroy it. Please think about the children and the future of the gene pool and help irradicate these mindless pukes.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Real News
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Date: January 17, 2017 05:58PM
P6umm Wrote:
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> Chill Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Reality will bite you in the ass Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > We've all 'lost' with Trump.
> > >
> > > Some of us just realize it sooner.
> >
> > Such a selfish comment. Those holding-on to
> jobs
> > or finding work see things differently.
> >
> > "Earlier in January, Ford announced that it was
> > canceling plans to build a plant in Mexico and
> > would offer 700 new jobs in the U.S. Dow
> Chemical,
> > Carrier, IBM, SoftBank and OneWeb have all made
> > similar announcements regarding hiring."
> >
> >
> http://thehill.com/policy/technology/313953-trump-
>
> > team-takes-credit-for-amazon-hiring-spree
>
>
> Trump had NOTHING to do with most of what he
> credits.
> Speaking of 'selfish' look at the FACTS and pay
> attention to his misleading statements.
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/w
> p/2016/12/05/trumps-misleading-numbers-about-the-c
> arrier-deal/?utm_term=.662432ab3e7b
>
> http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-sprint
> -jobs-233019
>
> The Dow Chemical is 100 jobs (less than 1% of
> their workforce) it's hype and part of their
> typical business cycle.
>
> IBM already had 20k of the 25k announced jobs LAST
> MAY UNDER OBAMA.
> http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/23/technology/ibm-job
> s/
Oh? And what about Bayer Monsanto news today?
Bayer, Monsanto confirm spending plans after meeting Trump
Bayer (BAYGn.DE) and Monsanto (MON.N) said on Tuesday they would spend at least half of their agriculture research and development budget in the United States over the next six years, following a meeting with President-elect Donald Trump last week.
The two companies, which are awaiting approval of their agreed $66 billion deal from Trump's incoming administration, issued a joint statement after Trump's spokesman said Bayer had pledged to boost U.S. investments and jobs.
They said they expect to spend a total of about $16 billion worldwide on agriculture R&D over the next six years, in line with an annual 2.5 billion-euro ($2.7 billion) pro-forma budget they announced at the time of the merger agreement in September.
The German drugs and agriculture group and the U.S. seeds giant also said on Tuesday they would create "several thousand new high-tech, well-paying jobs after integration is complete".
Trump's spokesman had said the companies had promised to maintain their more than 9,000 U.S. jobs and add 3,000 new U.S. high-tech positions.
Trump has elicited jobs and investment pledges from several companies including General Motors (GM.N) and Wal-Mart (WMT.N) as he prepares to take office on Friday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bayer-monsanto-idUSKBN1512JK
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> Chill Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Reality will bite you in the ass Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > We've all 'lost' with Trump.
> > >
> > > Some of us just realize it sooner.
> >
> > Such a selfish comment. Those holding-on to
> jobs
> > or finding work see things differently.
> >
> > "Earlier in January, Ford announced that it was
> > canceling plans to build a plant in Mexico and
> > would offer 700 new jobs in the U.S. Dow
> Chemical,
> > Carrier, IBM, SoftBank and OneWeb have all made
> > similar announcements regarding hiring."
> >
> >
> http://thehill.com/policy/technology/313953-trump-
>
> > team-takes-credit-for-amazon-hiring-spree
>
>
> Trump had NOTHING to do with most of what he
> credits.
> Speaking of 'selfish' look at the FACTS and pay
> attention to his misleading statements.
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/w
> p/2016/12/05/trumps-misleading-numbers-about-the-c
> arrier-deal/?utm_term=.662432ab3e7b
>
> http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-sprint
> -jobs-233019
>
> The Dow Chemical is 100 jobs (less than 1% of
> their workforce) it's hype and part of their
> typical business cycle.
>
> IBM already had 20k of the 25k announced jobs LAST
> MAY UNDER OBAMA.
> http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/23/technology/ibm-job
> s/
Oh? And what about Bayer Monsanto news today?
Bayer, Monsanto confirm spending plans after meeting Trump
Bayer (BAYGn.DE) and Monsanto (MON.N) said on Tuesday they would spend at least half of their agriculture research and development budget in the United States over the next six years, following a meeting with President-elect Donald Trump last week.
The two companies, which are awaiting approval of their agreed $66 billion deal from Trump's incoming administration, issued a joint statement after Trump's spokesman said Bayer had pledged to boost U.S. investments and jobs.
They said they expect to spend a total of about $16 billion worldwide on agriculture R&D over the next six years, in line with an annual 2.5 billion-euro ($2.7 billion) pro-forma budget they announced at the time of the merger agreement in September.
The German drugs and agriculture group and the U.S. seeds giant also said on Tuesday they would create "several thousand new high-tech, well-paying jobs after integration is complete".
Trump's spokesman had said the companies had promised to maintain their more than 9,000 U.S. jobs and add 3,000 new U.S. high-tech positions.
Trump has elicited jobs and investment pledges from several companies including General Motors (GM.N) and Wal-Mart (WMT.N) as he prepares to take office on Friday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bayer-monsanto-idUSKBN1512JK
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Posted by:
FTFY.
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Date: January 17, 2017 08:20PM
There's only one reason Wrote:
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> Hillary just wants a front seat. Remember,
> morons who believe Breitbart and other fake news but
> are too stupid to understand when Trump lies on camera
> repeatedly believe, with no actual evidence, that she
> has had others eliminated after they have crossed her.
> She knows that Trump's "presidency" will be a disaster.
> Hopefully the Secret Service can stop it before it happens!
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> Hillary just wants a front seat. Remember,
> morons who believe Breitbart and other fake news but
> are too stupid to understand when Trump lies on camera
> repeatedly believe, with no actual evidence, that she
> has had others eliminated after they have crossed her.
> She knows that Trump's "presidency" will be a disaster.
> Hopefully the Secret Service can stop it before it happens!
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
Melania's Fake Right Tit
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Date: January 17, 2017 08:44PM
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Posted by:
payback
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Date: January 17, 2017 09:02PM
Heard Trump is inviting all the republicans running against the boycotting dems in their districts to fill their seats.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
JBW
()
Date: January 17, 2017 11:20PM
Real simple, folks:
We held an election, and it's is over.
Trump won.
The Russians may have hacked the Dems emails, but there's no evidence that anyone changed their vote over it.
There's no point to protesting something that can't be changed.
If he commits "high crimes and misdemeanors" while ion office, you can impeach him, otherwise shut up and take your lumps, because the other side lived with Obama for 8 years.
We held an election, and it's is over.
Trump won.
The Russians may have hacked the Dems emails, but there's no evidence that anyone changed their vote over it.
There's no point to protesting something that can't be changed.
If he commits "high crimes and misdemeanors" while ion office, you can impeach him, otherwise shut up and take your lumps, because the other side lived with Obama for 8 years.
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
bitchesplease
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Date: January 17, 2017 11:48PM
This is going to be good!
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Posted by:
Reality!
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Date: January 18, 2017 12:42AM
Sucks
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Posted by:
LOL!!!! tards
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Date: January 18, 2017 06:54AM
^ haha
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^^ Hillary On Electon Eve!!^^
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Date: January 18, 2017 07:31PM
Re: Look at all the SORE LOSERS!
Posted by:
m3t97
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Date: January 18, 2017 08:37PM
DemoCRAPS Wrote:
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> Suck it up Buttercups! Niggers, foreigners, and
> Jews
Hey asshole!
I am a foreigner but don't group me with anyone else!
I don't give a rat's ass that these degenerates are not going to show up. I just wish more of them Democ-rats followed suit and stayed in their hell-holes.
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> Suck it up Buttercups! Niggers, foreigners, and
> Jews
Hey asshole!
I am a foreigner but don't group me with anyone else!
I don't give a rat's ass that these degenerates are not going to show up. I just wish more of them Democ-rats followed suit and stayed in their hell-holes.