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Cord Cutting
Posted by: Bill Smith ()
Date: January 03, 2017 10:20AM

We currently have a Comcast Xfinity package with phone, internet, and TV, but after seeing the setup at a friend's house over the weekend the idea of dropping the TV package in favor of Sling TV and Roku looks very attractive. The cost savings are easily $50-60 per month and if we buy a cable modem that would save an additional $10 per month in rental fees.

While the TV part is easy, I am having trouble with the modem replacement. There are plenty of options, but none have a telephone connection and I was wondering if anyone here has approached this issue. We are also considering a move to FiOS (phone and data only) which makes the modem issue moot, but if we stick with Comcast for these services I would like to lower my costs as much as possible.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: You will suck Comcast's COCK ()
Date: January 03, 2017 10:50AM

Some way, some how, you will still end up sucking Comcast's COCK!

btw, your name sounds familiar.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Jh4Jp ()
Date: January 03, 2017 12:12PM

We are getting rid of cable also. We currently have a Fios bundle with land line CATV and internet. Keeping the internet and ditching the phone and tv service. With sling and Netflix we get all the tv we will ever need. AMF cable tv.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Bill Smith ()
Date: January 03, 2017 03:18PM

Jh4Jp Wrote:
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> We are getting rid of cable also. We currently
> have a Fios bundle with land line CATV and
> internet. Keeping the internet and ditching the
> phone and tv service. With sling and Netflix we
> get all the tv we will ever need. AMF cable tv.


The only thing keeping us from going the Sling/Roku route right now is MASN and Washington Nationals baseball games. Comcast Sportsnet is available through Sling for the Washington Capitals, but MASN does not offer any streaming options. While we could get the MLB package, local games are blacked out.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Conservative Caveman ()
Date: January 03, 2017 03:52PM

Sling don't got FoxNews, so no Sling for me.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Jh4Jp ()
Date: January 03, 2017 05:38PM

Bill Smith Wrote:
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> Jh4Jp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We are getting rid of cable also. We currently
> > have a Fios bundle with land line CATV and
> > internet. Keeping the internet and ditching the
> > phone and tv service. With sling and Netflix we
> > get all the tv we will ever need. AMF cable tv.
>
>
> The only thing keeping us from going the
> Sling/Roku route right now is MASN and Washington
> Nationals baseball games. Comcast Sportsnet is
> available through Sling for the Washington
> Capitals, but MASN does not offer any streaming
> options. While we could get the MLB package,
> local games are blacked out.


Yea I'm going to miss the baseball channel and masn but the cost for the "package"isn't worth it. I'll just get MLB on my phone or go to the games. I never watch network TV because the commercials take up 70% of the air time and the channels are synced so you can't surf around them. With all the new options for commercial free viewing CATV is on the way out. We are seeing the beginning of a new trend for network TV.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Philo Farnsworth ()
Date: January 03, 2017 07:46PM

The only reason to have cable is sports. All the other crap (reality TV, dramas, movies, fake news) can be had online. Check Ooma as landline alternative.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Nudity ()
Date: January 03, 2017 07:58PM

Philo Farnsworth Wrote:
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> The only reason to have cable is sports. All the
> other crap (reality TV, dramas, movies, fake news)
> can be had online. Check Ooma as landline
> alternative.

True but you also get cussing and nudity!

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Roku and Sports Bars ()
Date: January 03, 2017 08:17PM

What's cable?

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Bill Smith ()
Date: January 04, 2017 09:42AM

Philo Farnsworth Wrote:
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> The only reason to have cable is sports. All the
> other crap (reality TV, dramas, movies, fake news)
> can be had online. Check Ooma as landline
> alternative.

Call me old-fashioned, but I like the security of having a landline when the power goes out along with E911 service.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Date: January 04, 2017 12:47PM

ota antenna barely used for network sports
roku with netflix and amazon prime
standard verizon supplied router with 75 mps 69.99 per month

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: $20 to get cable ()
Date: January 04, 2017 12:51PM

I pay $90 a month for 100 mpbs internet and hundreds of channels with verizon, renting 1 box. I don't mind paying $20 more to have all the channels I could possibly want.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Date: January 04, 2017 03:06PM

and commercials, commercials and more commercials.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: 6JpTn ()
Date: January 10, 2017 10:32PM

"standard verizon supplied router with 75 mps 69.99 per month"

Really? I have to look into that. I'm getting screwed, but I knew that b/c I haven't stayed on top of it.



---------- (monthly)


Your bundle includes Fios Internet 50/50 and Fios TV Extreme HD

Bundle Price $104.99

----------- PLUS

Additional Services & Equipment
Services

Fully Loaded Entertainment Pack $48.99


Fios German $14.99


Dial Tone Line $15.00


Sensible Minute $8.00


Equipment
Rent: HD Set-Top Box $11.99


Rent: HD Multi-Room DVR $19.99


Subtotal $118.96

--------- PLUS

Your One-Time Activities
Local Calls - Additional Calls
.41
See Usage Detail
National Directory Assistance 1 @ 2.49
2.49

Subtotal $2.90

------- PLUS

Taxes, Governmental Fees & Surcharges
E-911 Tax
.75
Federal Excise Tax
.71
VA State Sales Tax
1.92
VA Communications Sales Tax
7.91
VA Public Rights-of-Way Use Fee
1.11
Verizon Surcharges & Fees
Federal Subscriber Line Charge
6.14
Federal Universal Service Fee
1.07
PEG Grant Fee
1.00
Regulatory Recovery Fee - Federal
.08
VA Tax Recovery Charge
.07

Subtotal $20.76


=============> total $247.61 per month

---------


I think I can do better after being a FIOS customer for six years. I'm at the end of the contract. Maybe a switch is in order, because that's $3,000 +/- a year.


.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Just Did It ()
Date: January 11, 2017 06:57AM

^^^^

We just cut it off. Have Sling, Net Flix and Zulu and haven't missed a beat. Chrome cast it from my phone and my phone has become my remote. Saving about 125 a month. Kept the internet service and even upgraded it tossed the land line and cable package. Hardly notice a difference.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Steve Keller ()
Date: January 11, 2017 09:42AM

Amazon fire stick with the Kodi app is amazing! Is it legal? Yes. It has access to pay per sports and all the movies and shows you can imagine

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: TV watcher ()
Date: January 11, 2017 10:15AM

Steve Keller Wrote:
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> Amazon fire stick with the Kodi app is amazing! Is
> it legal? Yes. It has access to pay per sports and
> all the movies and shows you can imagine

Thanks for that update with the fire stick, I was looking at one, and kodi, so now I know it's a BUY.

I too have Fios cable/internet/phone (for the ADT alarm). Paying about $160/month for all 3, trying to bring my bill down to less than 100. Cutting the cable and keeping the internet and phone now!

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: drop the phone too ()
Date: January 11, 2017 10:22AM

Magicjack works great and is $30 a year

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: dingus ()
Date: January 19, 2017 01:16AM

Fuck cable, paying for content that you use less than 1% of and watch commercials too? No thanks.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: ThatGuy ()
Date: January 19, 2017 08:53AM

FireTV
Playstation Vue
Kodi (w/Exodus and SportsDevil)
Internet connection

Went from $230 with Comcast to $100 with 100/100 FIOS and Playstation Vue. Cancelled Cable with premium channels, Netflix, Hulu.

Haven't looked back or missed anything

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: cable guy ()
Date: January 19, 2017 09:20AM

Whats really sad is that old people (55+) really do not know any better and they waste one to several thousand dollars a year on land lines and cable or satellite television. I have even run into seniors who are paying AOL 10 dollars a month for email service!! AOL should be ashamed of themselves!

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: BillMarrow ()
Date: January 27, 2017 05:01AM

Many ISPs let you buy your own modem ADSL. Installing your own ADSL modem will save me money. Using special modem, like here JONSGUIDE, i guaranteed will have full access, which i using for web-traffic. A new modem ADSL/ADSL2 requires an initial money of $30 to $95 (or more for a router combo/modem), but it help me tweak my network.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: T Johnson ()
Date: January 27, 2017 11:41AM

Go on eBay and buy the Amazon fire stick with Kodi 2016 and basically have everything you need for sports, movies, porno, pay per view, international channels, live leak, YouTube and thousands more apps. It's around 80 bucks but well worth it.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: SEO spammer ()
Date: January 27, 2017 12:05PM

BillMarrow Wrote:
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> Many ISPs let you buy your own modem ADSL.
> Installing your own ADSL modem will save me money.
> Using special modem, like here href="http://jonsguide.org/best-top-modem-router-c
> ombo-reviews/">JONSGUIDE
, i guaranteed will
> have full access, which i using for web-traffic. A
> new modem ADSL/ADSL2 requires an initial money of
> $30 to $95 (or more for a router combo/modem), but
> it help me tweak my network.


I use jonsguide to look at PORN and XXX also to buy VIAGRA and finally when im short on cash pay day loans

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: phelpsmarc ()
Date: January 27, 2017 01:28PM

Internet only is the way to go unless you have already quit and they beg you to re-subscribe with really cheap bundles.

I quit Verizon Fios 1.5 yrs ago and they are trying to woo me back with $59.99/month TV/phone/Internet for 2 yrs.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: peter the meter reader ()
Date: January 27, 2017 05:41PM

There was another thread about this a few months back and someone mentioned a cheap digital TV antenna from walmart that clamps to your gutter. I got one and tried it and it works like a motherfucker here in Kings Park west. Crystal clear HD channels, about 15 of them all for free. Between that and Sling I am good with high speed internet only. Cable and satellite tv are a dying industry.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: fake terminology again ()
Date: January 27, 2017 06:11PM

peter the meter reader Wrote:
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> There was another thread about this a few months
> back and someone mentioned a cheap digital TV
> antenna from walmart that clamps to your gutter. I
> got one and tried it and it works like a
> motherfucker here in Kings Park west. Crystal
> clear HD channels, about 15 of them all for free.
> Between that and Sling I am good with high speed
> internet only. Cable and satellite tv are a dying
> industry.

I replied previously that there is no such thing as a "digital" antenna. It is purely marketing hype. The radio waves do not know or care whether whether the signal is digital. The same antenna design that works for analog will work for digital.

Between this and the so called "LED" televisions that are really just LCD with LED backlight the fraud is amazing.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: test pattern ()
Date: January 27, 2017 07:37PM

cox starter package 40 bucks a month. 5 MBPS, seriously what do you need speed for? How fast do you think your wireless connections are, anyway? Cox recently jacked all packages to a 1000 GB data cap per month, no way you can use it all. Buy your Cox identical modem from microcenter, pays off in less than a year by not paying 7 bucks a month rent. 30 dollar a month prepaid cell phone, all taxes included, you know you have to carry one anyway- why have a landline? An antenna or really big coat hangar on a digital TV for free TV. Every time I rescan the TV, more digital sub channel have been added. There must be 30 DC and Baltimore OTA channels now, some of them are exactly the same channels you will see on cable. If you want to watch special sports every now and then, find a sports bar. Dinner and beers will probably cost less over a year than your yearly cable bill.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: January 27, 2017 08:49PM

fake terminology again Wrote:
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> I replied previously that there is no such thing
> as a "digital" antenna. It is purely marketing
> hype. The radio waves do not know or care whether
> whether the signal is digital. The same antenna
> design that works for analog will work for
> digital.
>
> Between this and the so called "LED" televisions
> that are really just LCD with LED backlight the
> fraud is amazing.

Of course you're right on the technology, but I'm not sure I'd call it "fraud". More like "consumers are too thick to want to hear the real story", so "digital antenna" for "an antenna designed to optimize for the frequencies and bandwidths used by digital TV" and "LED TV" as a shortcut for "LED-backlit LCD TV" doesn't bother me.

And it'll evolve anyway--consider "manual transmission": if you'd said "This car has a manual transmission" 50 years ago, people would have said, "A what?", because there were "transmissions" and "automatic transmissions". Nobody said "manual transmission". (OK, time is passing -- maybe you'd have to go back 60 years!) Or "rotary telephone". Soon "flat-screen TV" won't make any sense, because "What else is there?" (OK, yeah, those curved LED screens--maybe "flat-screen" will go away!)

See where I'm going with this? It's just evolution of everyday usage. *Could* be evil marketers -- the "digital antenna" is certainly closer in my book than "LED TV" -- or could just be shorthand.

Not pickin' a fight (enough of that here), just expressing a slightly differing view!

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: TheFixer ()
Date: January 27, 2017 10:27PM

Conservative Caveman Wrote:
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> Sling don't got FoxNews, so no Sling for me.

That's faux news

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: poindexter ()
Date: January 28, 2017 06:11AM

fake terminology again Wrote:
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> peter the meter reader Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There was another thread about this a few
> months
> > back and someone mentioned a cheap digital TV
> > antenna from walmart that clamps to your gutter.
> I
> > got one and tried it and it works like a
> > motherfucker here in Kings Park west. Crystal
> > clear HD channels, about 15 of them all for
> free.
> > Between that and Sling I am good with high
> speed
> > internet only. Cable and satellite tv are a
> dying
> > industry.
>
> I replied previously that there is no such thing
> as a "digital" antenna. It is purely marketing
> hype. The radio waves do not know or care whether
> whether the signal is digital. The same antenna
> design that works for analog will work for
> digital.
>
> Between this and the so called "LED" televisions
> that are really just LCD with LED backlight the
> fraud is amazing.


Yesterday I went to the ATM machine but could not remember my PIN number.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Just doit ()
Date: January 28, 2017 08:18AM

Fios 100mbps. $34/mo.

Roku for 90% of what you'll watch.

Sports - ota antenna. Happy to boycott leftwing espn.

Landline - buy an Obi adapter and use Google voice - no monthly fees ever.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: also old ()
Date: January 28, 2017 08:26AM

Greybeard Wrote:
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> fake terminology again Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I replied previously that there is no such
> thing
> > as a "digital" antenna. It is purely marketing
> > hype. The radio waves do not know or care
> whether
> > whether the signal is digital. The same
> antenna
> > design that works for analog will work for
> > digital.
> >
> > Between this and the so called "LED"
> televisions
> > that are really just LCD with LED backlight the
> > fraud is amazing.
>
> Of course you're right on the technology, but I'm
> not sure I'd call it "fraud". More like "consumers
> are too thick to want to hear the real story", so
> "digital antenna" for "an antenna designed to
> optimize for the frequencies and bandwidths used
> by digital TV" and "LED TV" as a shortcut for
> "LED-backlit LCD TV" doesn't bother me.
>
> And it'll evolve anyway--consider "manual
> transmission": if you'd said "This car has a
> manual transmission" 50 years ago, people would
> have said, "A what?", because there were
> "transmissions" and "automatic transmissions".
> Nobody said "manual transmission". (OK, time is
> passing -- maybe you'd have to go back 60 years!)
> Or "rotary telephone". Soon "flat-screen TV" won't
> make any sense, because "What else is there?" (OK,
> yeah, those curved LED screens--maybe
> "flat-screen" will go away!)
>
> See where I'm going with this? It's just evolution
> of everyday usage. *Could* be evil marketers --
> the "digital antenna" is certainly closer in my
> book than "LED TV" -- or could just be shorthand.
>
> Not pickin' a fight (enough of that here), just
> expressing a slightly differing view!


Kind of like "unleaded gasoline" lead was taken out of the gasolines we use on the early 80s yet we still refer to it as "unleaded" even though all gasolines are unleaded.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Sporty ()
Date: January 28, 2017 11:48AM

Okay to cut the TV cords if you don't care about watching live local sports like the Nats, Caps, and Wizards. Otherwise, you're tied to MASN and CSN.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: holllddd up ()
Date: January 28, 2017 11:55AM

Just doit Wrote:
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> Fios 100mbps. $34/mo.
>


100mpbs for $34 a month through Verizon? I call bs.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: detonator ()
Date: January 28, 2017 05:31PM

also old Wrote:
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> Greybeard Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fake terminology again Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I replied previously that there is no such
> > thing
> > > as a "digital" antenna. It is purely
> marketing
> > > hype. The radio waves do not know or care
> > whether
> > > whether the signal is digital. The same
> > antenna
> > > design that works for analog will work for
> > > digital.
> > >
> > > Between this and the so called "LED"
> > televisions
> > > that are really just LCD with LED backlight
> the
> > > fraud is amazing.
> >
> > Of course you're right on the technology, but
> I'm
> > not sure I'd call it "fraud". More like
> "consumers
> > are too thick to want to hear the real story",
> so
> > "digital antenna" for "an antenna designed to
> > optimize for the frequencies and bandwidths
> used
> > by digital TV" and "LED TV" as a shortcut for
> > "LED-backlit LCD TV" doesn't bother me.
> >
> > And it'll evolve anyway--consider "manual
> > transmission": if you'd said "This car has a
> > manual transmission" 50 years ago, people would
> > have said, "A what?", because there were
> > "transmissions" and "automatic transmissions".
> > Nobody said "manual transmission". (OK, time is
> > passing -- maybe you'd have to go back 60
> years!)
> > Or "rotary telephone". Soon "flat-screen TV"
> won't
> > make any sense, because "What else is there?"
> (OK,
> > yeah, those curved LED screens--maybe
> > "flat-screen" will go away!)
> >
> > See where I'm going with this? It's just
> evolution
> > of everyday usage. *Could* be evil marketers --
> > the "digital antenna" is certainly closer in my
> > book than "LED TV" -- or could just be
> shorthand.
> >
> > Not pickin' a fight (enough of that here), just
> > expressing a slightly differing view!
>
>
> Kind of like "unleaded gasoline" lead was taken
> out of the gasolines we use on the early 80s yet
> we still refer to it as "unleaded" even though all
> gasolines are unleaded.

AVGAS still has lead in it, although maybe not for much longer.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: dubs ()
Date: January 28, 2017 05:34PM

holllddd up Wrote:
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> Just doit Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fios 100mbps. $34/mo.
> >
>
>
> 100mpbs for $34 a month through Verizon? I call
> bs.


Yeah, that ain't happening. Not straight-up, all-in anyway.

Post bill or bs.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: January 28, 2017 08:28PM

detonator Wrote:
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> also old Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > Kind of like "unleaded gasoline" lead was taken
> > out of the gasolines we use on the early 80s
> yet
> > we still refer to it as "unleaded" even though
> all
> > gasolines are unleaded.
>
> AVGAS still has lead in it, although maybe not for
> much longer.

Right--but if you say "gas" nowadays, 99.44% of people will assume unleaded. Saying "unleaded gas" is kind of anachronistic now!

"Acoustic guitar" is another one -- until the electric guitar was invented, saying "acoustic guitar" would have made no sense to anyone. Fun stuff...

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: FIOS user ()
Date: February 03, 2017 10:24AM

Anybody use the Kodi with "SportsAccess" to watch the Nats? How is the reliability and quality? I want to cut the cord but I gotta have my Nats games.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Leon Redbone ()
Date: February 03, 2017 02:50PM

I love Kodi, it's a great hobby. But as far as reliability and dependability go, Kodi is nowhere close to Comcast.

There is probably always a way to watch whatever you are interested in with Kodi. It can be quite tricky to locate. And even when you do find a good Kodi path for watching today's Nats game, there's no guarantee that it will work in the future.

In fact with Kodi there are no guarantees of anything. Starting with there is no guarantee that Amazon will continue to let us even run Kodi on FireOS.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Dy3jh ()
Date: February 12, 2017 09:35PM


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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: NoneYa ()
Date: February 12, 2017 09:38PM

2.5 years since i've moved to where i am now...no land line, but i stream everything via my roku player.....although i need cox internet, which everyone needs 'internet' cant' be happier!!!

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: fire stick rules ()
Date: October 07, 2017 12:59PM

Screw satellite and cable. Fire stick with sling and internet service is all you need.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Do it ()
Date: October 07, 2017 01:10PM

FIOS user Wrote:
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> Anybody use the Kodi with "SportsAccess" to watch
> the Nats? How is the reliability and quality? I
> want to cut the cord but I gotta have my Nats
> games.


Most of the feeds from Europe are pretty good. Interesting watching American Baseball with British Commercials.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: SammyS88 ()
Date: October 10, 2018 08:35AM

I'm also planning to cut the cable cord. I'm considering getting Amazon Firestick as it seems to be the most suitable for my needs. I plan to download US TV Now on my Firestick by using these recommendations https://www.firesticktricks.com/ustvnow-kodi.html . It will give me access to live tv. Thank you everyone for your recommendations:)

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Fios Update ()
Date: October 10, 2018 09:02AM

The current rate for 100mbps internet service is at $40/mo now. Anyone getting a better deal than that?

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Just sayin'... ()
Date: October 10, 2018 09:50AM

FiOS bundle = internet, TV, and landline phone service for cheap. Products are great, customer service is even better. Take it or leave it...

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: move along, old timer ()
Date: October 10, 2018 05:29PM

^^^^^^Must be a geriatric. Totally a 20th Century way of looking at things.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: cut that cord ()
Date: October 10, 2018 05:34PM

That's right! Cut that cord now. Kick the adult children out of the house and make them take all their "stuff" with them. Let them see what life is all about when they have to face Maslow's pyramid (of needs) without sucking at the tit of their parents!

Housing, food, clothing, health care, transportation, communications (i.e., phones and internet,) taxes, sundries and other costs all add up. That's before the costs of children, pets, hobbies, social requirements, entertainment, sporting events and eating out are considered.

Their constant criticism and ideology may very well change once the full burden is taken on the chin. They are smarter and know better than the older generations. Just ask them and they will definitely tell you all about how stupid you are and how if they were in charge things would change. Let's get this new party started, by allowing them the freedom and opportunity to take life by the horns without any financial bailout from their family and friends.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Slinger ()
Date: November 08, 2018 04:36PM

My wife and I are Slingers and we like it.

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Re: Cord Cutting
Posted by: Pc Retardz ()
Date: November 08, 2018 04:52PM

Fios Update Wrote:
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> The current rate for 100mbps internet service is
> at $40/mo now. Anyone getting a better deal than
> that?

That's what we just got last month.

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