I went there when it was George Mason north campus in the 70s. Now the Catholics are selling the old Fairfax high school to help pay for their new campus in South Riding. I'm thinking we need some more retail like a mattress store and a used car dealership. Maybe they can squeeze a Sunoco station in there too.

I'd love to buy it and turn it into a strip joint.

Nice little payback for the Catholic Church actively supporting the destruction of the West.

I vote for a Self Storage facility combined with a self service car wash.

I never knew GMU used that building at one time. I just goggled it and sure enough it's true!


I'm thinking a Super8 motel, a Roy Rogers and a barber shop.

A dave and busters for the kids, a mini-casino for the adults (a few tables, some slots), a sports bar, and a 24-hour daycare center and carwash.

They'd make a killing!! People would never leave!!

I am thinking a mattress store would work.

Or a shelter for day laborers to stand under.

It should be made in to a parking garage and a Fairfax version of Mosaic District, otherwise just more apartments. If anything just get rid of that fucking school zone that nobody follows. Has that construction sign blocking the school zone sign been there forever?

Section 8 housing for EL Salvadorans.

Terp4Life Wrote:
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> Section 8 housing for EL Salvadorans.

I don't want to live in a ghost town bro...

18 acres is a lot of land in downtown Fairfax. If they used 3 acres for a 4 deck parking garage they could do lots of cool stuff with the other 15. I heard the Breezeway motel is going to get the wrecking ball in the next 2-3 years also.

To Be the Next dmAJ CENTER!! Youll Need A Mirror..Its Banned baby!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!

DAJAX

I'd say a fuddruckers to replace the one they too from us or a cookout or a sonic

A Three Chefs

I would love to see trees planted and that space converted into a park.

They will probably build more townhouses/apartments and only add to the traffic and overpopulation of the area.

Sell it back to GMU.

MtWkh Wrote:
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> Sell it back to GMU.


GmU is getting the rest of the land at the Northern Virginia training center after the DMV and VSP take what they need.

UHeCD Wrote:
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> I would love to see trees planted and that space
> converted into a park.
>
> They will probably build more
> townhouses/apartments and only add to the traffic
> and overpopulation of the area.

Exactly. The last thing we need is another traffic disaster.

Are they selling the land or re-developing it? I read that they will retain ownership but may build condos or something else that can be rented.

Mattress store, for sure...also, if we could get one of them Chipotle's. I had Chipotle a few years ago but, I just can't seem to find one now in NOVA. Oh...and an upline burger shop.

Wal-mart

Section 8 housing

The property will be vacated. That’s it.

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> The property will be vacated. That’s it.


That is the truth. Carrying costs are minimal for the diocese. And after being run out of town by Fairfax City, there is not a lot of motivation to return the property to the tax rolls.

Besides, it was designated a historic site, so tearing it down will be a long process.

Alumni are already talking about establishing a soup kitchen, day work center, and social services in the building. They apparently have the money to do it.

huge statue of fr. lyle.

Fairfax City should tear it down and have another paki muslim open a fly-by-night used-car outlet.

So how will PVI maintain its basketball excellence by moving further west? Will the PG County kids who play on their basketball teams simply live with host families in Loudon?

That building is loaded with asbestos. It would cost a fortune to tear it down.

Justice for PVI Wrote:
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> causeican Wrote:
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> > The property will be vacated. That’s it.
>
>
> That is the truth. Carrying costs are minimal for
> the diocese. And after being run out of town by
> Fairfax City, there is not a lot of motivation to
> return the property to the tax rolls.
>
> Besides, it was designated a historic site, so
> tearing it down will be a long process.
>
> Alumni are already talking about establishing a
> soup kitchen, day work center, and social services
> in the building. They apparently have the money
> to do it.

that would be a good idea.

Churches do a better job of administering social services than the Govt. Before the libs. went overboard with social service spending, Churches were the primary administer of such services. And the taxpayer didn't have to pay for it.

Re-open Arthur Treacher's !

A Chick-fil-a MEGA Center......

Since the building was the first Fairfax High School it will be designated historic by the city. That means there can be no significant changes to the building facade. But the building could still be converted to other uses, like a retirement home, or another school.

History buff Wrote:
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> Since the building was the first Fairfax High
> School it will be designated historic by the city.
> That means there can be no significant changes to
> the building facade. But the building could still
> be converted to other uses, like a retirement
> home, or another school.


It was the historic designation of the abandoned house next door that got the city into this mess.

This will be fun to watch.

Mixed use. Mattress store on the bottom. Subsidized housing above. Best of both worlds.

A wildlife refuge for the wildlife.

This thread is full of whiney, phone-staring kids who still rely on their Mom to clean their underwear.

How about this answer:

What should be built on the site is whatever the LANDOWNER envisions.

You see, maggots, this is private property.

Purchased by people with real money, not Monopoly money.

This is not a contest.

Some of you, I know, are still in high school, so you think that you can have Popularity Votes on subject matter.

Meanwhile, America moves on. We are the greatest country ever. Trump will be our President soon.

And, the owner of the property of Paul VI High School, SHOULD be able to do whatever he wants to do with it.

The Real Fairfax Conservative Wrote:
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> This thread is full of whiney, phone-staring kids
> who still rely on their Mom to clean their
> underwear.
>
> How about this answer:
>
> What should be built on the site is whatever the
> LANDOWNER envisions.
>
> You see, maggots, this is private property.
>
> Purchased by people with real money, not Monopoly
> money.
>
> This is not a contest.
>
> Some of you, I know, are still in high school, so
> you think that you can have Popularity Votes on
> subject matter.
>
> Meanwhile, America moves on. We are the greatest
> country ever. Trump will be our President soon.
>
> And, the owner of the property of Paul VI High
> School, SHOULD be able to do whatever he wants to
> do with it.


Wrong again.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Trump should buy the land and make a Trump Towers Fairfax


MAGA

EPA Wrote:
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> The Real Fairfax Conservative Wrote:
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> > And, the owner of the property of Paul VI High
> > School, SHOULD be able to do whatever he wants
> to
> > do with it.
>
>
> Wrong again.
>
> Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Fairfax City is very adept at bringing the permitting process to a halt if you don't build what they want, where they want it, looking how they want it to look. The city is currently on a mixed-use bus that ignores economic reality.

On the other hand, the Catholic Church can be very patient. Passive aggressive patient. Board-it-up-and-watch-it-rot patient.

Once PVI locks up the athletic fields and gyms, people will complain to the city to do something.

A few years after closure it will look like THIS inside.
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Apparently the building was used for Fairfax High School and George Mason over the years. Can anybody locate the complete timeline history of the use of the building? The new Fairfax High opened in 1972. PVI occupied the building starting in 1983. That is an 80 year old building.

Love the Arthur Treacher's and mega-Chic-Fil-A idea.

But, another Asian supermarket, like across the street, where there's like a 50/50 chance you get hit by a car walking across the parking lot is probably the way to go.

Oh yea, that will show them!

What a tough guy YOU are, all angry at the catholic church for destroying the west. As if people in general do not destroy.

History lover Wrote:
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> Apparently the building was used for Fairfax High
> School and George Mason over the years. Can
> anybody locate the complete timeline history of
> the use of the building? The new Fairfax High
> opened in 1972. PVI occupied the building starting
> in 1983. That is an 80 year old building.

There is an historical marker out front. It was built as the original Fairfax High School. It is the only remaining historical school building still in use as a school in the city.

Fairfax High School is very old but not as old as W&L in Arlington or B-CC in Bethesda.

Nine hole executive golf course.

Massive museum dedicated to Father Lyle and Jonathan Taylor Spielberg, two of the greatest characters in the most epic story in the history of Northern Virginia Catholics.

Fuck that school, it was a white only school back in the day. It must be destroyed completely or its fucking racist as shit. Fuck you if u r white

Fairfax City needs another nail salon, martial arts studio, bank branch, CVS/Walgreens, dry cleaner, fro-yo, bail bondsman, gas station, and used-car dealer. They can all fit on that lot.

It was built in 36 The Fist Big Fairfax School to have buses bring in kids getting away from the 1 RM school houses. W.T.Woodson was the Man with the Plan.. Mr.Whitaker (SIC) ?? Was The Janitor..The Janitor retired bout 1974-75 with many moons working there. The schools nickname was the REBELS..Now A Banned Word and The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Va. was often see. Its Now Banned too the Flag..By Fags.... Anything Else You Need to Know??

DAJAX

obama banker slave will eo it into a daesh school for gifted children as his last stain on potus

Fairfax city is enamored with mixed use development. The car dealerships/repairshops caddycorner too it are going to be redeveloped in a year or two as well.

Expect more housing/retail like at fairfax corner. How the area will handle more cars there... i do not know.

Middle Eastern restaurant and hookah bar.
Capital One Bank and Walgreens
El Taco Loco or another kung fu day care

A vape parlor combined with a discount cigarette/halal meat store.

With a 3 story MVC anchor store.

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co-ed sex stalls!

a very tall building to look down upon the swarm of mexican slaves from !

an asian school for the "smarter asian kids" (kids of politicians)

all i need is a shitload of iron and some concrete !

How about a USCIS holding facility for all the illegals we will be sending home. I kind of envision something like that in the movie The Siege. They can look through the fences at Rt. 50 as real Americans commute to legal jobs.

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an all day sucker factory

cell towers. fuck my phone never works once i go outside the city.

a republican political center building for election preparation and building strategy


fun fact: did you know fx. co. gov. uses your taxes to hire illegals hardly out of college to work on "master city projects" including gov office buildings being filled by illegal employement ?

> a republican political center building for election preparation and building strategy

they should offer free space for groups or teams to develop and make products in the USA - using gov money - like japan and china do

materials organization energy

if republicans do not have the $$ to congress and work in mega-teams, alone they are weak

^^ funded by inflating the wholey fuck out of Obama democrats - who used IRS schemes to bilk republicans and print 8x the fake money Bush did

they deserve a penalty of 16x, which is 2x what they stold

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historic preservation society - breast implant division

a college who's kids do nothing but protest Berkley protesters

Sure Pal Wrote:
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> It was built in 36 The Fist Big Fairfax School to
> have buses bring in kids getting away from the 1
> RM school houses. W.T.Woodson was the Man with the
> Plan.. Mr.Whitaker (SIC) ?? Was The Janitor..The
> Janitor retired bout 1974-75 with many moons
> working there. The schools nickname was the
> REBELS..Now A Banned Word and The Battle Flag of
> the Army of Northern Va. was often see. Its Now
> Banned too the Flag..By Fags.... Anything Else
> You Need to Know??

Did you go there? Or did you graduate before it was built? :)

I went To...."Reform School"...LOL!!

Long Hair,past the shoulders, White T shirt, Cigarettes in sleeve rolled up on um Camel Humps Or Lucky Strikes Or Red Palls No filters, work boots, In My Pocket a Draft Card 1H status, 1A Physical,35 pull ups either way on the bar, hundreds of sit ups no prob bro,BP 110/75, above the 98th percentile IQ, Voted For Richard Nixon in 1972. No Rebel Flags For me, then or now, no Confederate history, Ok Dammed Yankee Carpetbagger from The Left Coast..Family fought in American Revolution and Civil War, WW1 WW2 Vietnam.. Cival War member were Union Blue. Have much respect for all men and women honor, when a persons word was theirbond and mine is.That's why I have respect for the Men In Gray who fought for their territory, their state. Not A Puppet..Or Anyones Parrot!! Mind Of My Own..

DAJAX Born on A Saturday.. Sat. Child Works Baby and I Did!

There are tens of thousands of Fairfax alumni. We can all expect a letter writing campaign and change dot org petition to save the beautiful, historic school building from the wrecking ball.

What's a sex stall? Those look like car wash stalls.

Chef Joe Wrote:
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> There are tens of thousands of Fairfax alumni. We
> can all expect a letter writing campaign and
> change dot org petition to save the beautiful,
> historic school building from the wrecking ball.


When that school opened it was White Only.

Fuck this symbol of hate, ignorance and oppression. Destroy that fucker!

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> an asian school for the "smarter asian kids" (kids
> of politicians)

Make up your mind, smarter asian kids or rich kids. They're not one and the same.



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Dx9JE Wrote:
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> a republican political center building for
> election preparation and building strategy
>
>
> fun fact: did you know fx. co. gov. uses your
> taxes to hire illegals hardly out of college to
> work on "master city projects" including gov
> office buildings being filled by illegal
> employement ?


you don’t know what you’re talking about

Hopefully not more Section Ape housing for Illegals and nigs.

What a better way for all of the liberal douce bags of FFX city than to enjoy their own medicine. Force the city to build section 8 housing on their dime and be forced to recruit some off the worst black people that south east DC has to offer. They voted for the POTUS that came up with this crap so let them eat it!

Mega Baby Sheep Center

The Arlington diocese still owns that property and they are not going to do anything that does not benefit them financially. Catholics are about as bad as Jews when it comes to money. If it was a Baptist or Presbyterian owned property they would be giving the city a portion of the land for a park or something.

causeican Wrote:
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> HtdHj Wrote:
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> > an asian school for the "smarter asian kids"
> (kids
> > of politicians)
>
> Make up your mind, smarter asian kids or rich
> kids. They're not one and the same.

sorry but tax records show huge spending on "special schools for the gifted" that give certain people's children creature comforts, better books and computers, robots and stuff

if it weren't for the MONEY you could have gotten away with it !!

money matters

> I don’t know what you’re talking about

which is why MONEY TALKS

yo nagga Wrote:
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> Chef Joe Wrote:
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> > There are tens of thousands of Fairfax alumni.
> We
> > can all expect a letter writing campaign and
> > change dot org petition to save the beautiful,
> > historic school building from the wrecking
> ball.
>
>
> When that school opened it was White Only.
>
> Fuck this symbol of hate, ignorance and
> oppression. Destroy that fucker!


agreed.

Sorry. Area democrats got there first.

the land is already Eminent Domain due to "land shortage" and current plans are that a 2nd and bigger "office for minorities and blacks in fairfax legal defense office" will be there (the other one is in the Massey building - sharing the same information/telephone lines with the police)

Fairfax Fred Wrote:
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> I went there when it was George Mason north campus
> in the 70s. Now the Catholics are selling the old
> Fairfax high school to help pay for their new
> campus in South Riding. I'm thinking we need some
> more retail like a mattress store and a used car
> dealership. Maybe they can squeeze a Sunoco
> station in there too.


Title loan shop.

Updates on the Paul VI Property redevelopment project as of January 4:

• 10675 Fairfax Boulevard — The developer held community meeting in October 2016 with proposed redevelopment concepts. No application has yet been submitted to city.

Source: http://patch.com/virginia/fairfaxcity/update-major-development-projects-fairfax

The new Fairfax mayor is telling the neighbors that he supports turning the athletic fields into open space parkland.

Wait for it...

ummmmmmmmm..............is that building abandoned right now?

Wasn't Arthur Treachers near there?

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> Wasn't Arthur Treachers near there?


Yes, which is why it would be a great location for a new one and the rest of the school can be a Arthur Treacher's museum.

Placido Wrote:
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> Massive museum dedicated to Father Lyle and
> Jonathan Taylor Spielberg, two of the greatest
> characters in the most epic story in the history
> of Northern Virginia Catholics.


Did these guys like touching little boys like the rest of the Catholics?

Nip

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LOCAL CONTRACTO R Wrote:
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> ummmmmmmmm..............is that building abandoned
> right now?

Paul VI’s Loudoun Campus Approved: http://loudounnow.com/2016/11/01/paul-vi-loudoun-campus-approved/

Maybe a historical marker for the kid who scammed everyone by saying he was Steven Spielberg's nephew.

What a better way to celebrate the legacy of Arthur Treacher's than by building a museum and shrine on the site of the former Paul VI High School.

It would contain relics such as the first red and white paper fish dinner basket and an antique Fanta machine.

There would be a theater where old Arthur Treacher's commercials would be shown on a loop. And a gift shop where visitors could purchase Arthur Treacher's memorabilia.

Frankie the rat Wrote:
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> Maybe a historical marker for the kid who scammed
> everyone by saying he was Steven Spielberg's
> nephew.

Lol wut?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/2000-02/07/083r-020700-idx.html

A Mosque and Islamic Education Center

AT Historian Wrote:
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> What a better way to celebrate the legacy of
> Arthur Treacher's than by building a museum and
> shrine on the site of the former Paul VI High
> School.
>
> It would contain relics such as the first red and
> white paper fish dinner basket and an antique
> Fanta machine.
>
> There would be a theater where old Arthur
> Treacher's commercials would be shown on a loop.
> And a gift shop where visitors could purchase
> Arthur Treacher's memorabilia.


I liked AT's and I am going on a business trip in April to Ohio where I will be eating at AT's several times over a 4 day period.
The fried fish and hushpuppies are good but the coleslaw is really fantastic. The coleslaw travels well too and I will have a few pints packed in my cooler before returning home. It's all about that coleslaw!

A new and improved prison for conservatives.

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Damn kaley cuouco was sexxxxy when she was young!
Now she looks like most NOVA women-scary without tons of makeup!
Another reason why apples new face recognition keeps locking women out bc they cake on the make up and fool prospective lovers.

I have a family member who taught at Paul VI when it was part of GMU. He was hired by George Johnson.

Since it's Fairfax city, by law it has to be
A hotel
A car dealership
Or a fast food restaurant.
They will talk big and just put a fence around it.

Yes!!
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With a Wallgreens next door.

looks like........... Wrote:
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> MtWkh Wrote:
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> > Sell it back to GMU.
>
>
> GmU is getting the rest of the land at the
> Northern Virginia training center after the DMV
> and VSP take what they need.

Wrong, that site is more than likely going to be rezoned for a senior living community.

ADinFairfax Wrote:
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> > MtWkh Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > Sell it back to GMU.
> >
> >
> > GmU is getting the rest of the land at the
> > Northern Virginia training center after the DMV
> > and VSP take what they need.
>
> Wrong, that site is more than likely going to be
> rezoned for a senior living community.


A CVS with a Walgreens next door.

More reason for... Wrote:
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> > > MtWkh Wrote:
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > Sell it back to GMU.
> > >
> > >
> > > GmU is getting the rest of the land at the
> > > Northern Virginia training center after the
> DMV
> > > and VSP take what they need.
> >
> > Wrong, that site is more than likely going to
> be
> > rezoned for a senior living community.
>
>
> A CVS with a Walgreens next door.

With a Drug Fair and Ben Franklin's next door!

#1 a campus that does nothing but protest the Berkeley protestors

#2 CFOWTC, Consolation for Outnumbered Whites Cent Camp

ADinFairfax Wrote:
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> > MtWkh Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > Sell it back to GMU.
> >
> >
> > GmU is getting the rest of the land at the
> > Northern Virginia training center after the DMV
> > and VSP take what they need.
>
> Wrong, that site is more than likely going to be
> rezoned for a senior living community.


I heard it was a over 55 community.

Jbvgb Wrote:
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> > looks like........... Wrote:
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> > > MtWkh Wrote:
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> >
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > Sell it back to GMU.
> > >
> > >
> > > GmU is getting the rest of the land at the
> > > Northern Virginia training center after the
> DMV
> > > and VSP take what they need.
> >
> > Wrong, that site is more than likely going to
> be
> > rezoned for a senior living community.
>
>
> I heard it was a over 55 community.


Yes but only if the zoning is approved and a portion of the school will be saved and be a small community center with an adult daycare program.

The old Fairfax High School, currently occupied by Paul VI, is an historic building with a long, rich history. The exterior of the building must be preserved by law. Look at the official placard posted by the road.

You can expect the neighborhood that successfully prevented PVI from expanding, or from using the next-door house the Diocese purchased, eventually forcing the school to relocate outside the city, to launch a huge legal fight if the city allows any use not in conformance with the historic preservation status of the building.

The Diocese by right can use the building as a mega homeless shelter and work program headquarters for up to 600 people, effectively keeping the property off the tax roles.

A recovery center for victims of pedo Catholic priests, Timmy Kaine and Gerry Connolly.

Hmmmm, maybe:
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The city should keep the site to use to build a new school on. They could then use the new building as a "swing" site in order to relocate the kids so the existing school sites could be renovated and brought up to date. They could then either leave the site a school or use it as another municipal facility.

It's going to cost a ton to abate all the asbestos in the existing building and the city has no other sites to build new schools so keeping the site would seem to be a prudent use of tax dollars.

SchoolBuilder Wrote:
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> It's going to cost a ton to abate all the asbestos
> in the existing building

The asbestos was removed during a PVI renovation years ago.

Long gone Wrote:
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> >
> > It's going to cost a ton to abate all the
> asbestos
> > in the existing building
>
> The asbestos was removed during a PVI renovation
> years ago.


Not all of it. They left the pipe covering in the ground, old steam piping, and the material in the chase walls that remained untouched. I know the superintendent that did the job. There's asbestos material all over the site left from the renovation as well as a natural occurring vein that runs through the area. You can't swing a dead cat in Fairfax without hitting the stuff. It's everywhere in Fairfax City.

Recent news (as of this month) on the Paul IV site:

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2017/oct/11/i-think-its-way-over-developed/

"Wednesday, October 11, 2017

Paul VI High School will leave the City of Fairfax in 2020, so a hot topic of discussion is how best to redevelop its 18.5-acre site along Fairfax Boulevard. Last Tuesday, Oct. 3, developer IDI Group Cos. addressed a joint work session of the Fairfax City Council and Planning Commission to explains its plans.

The site is within the block bounded by Fairfax Boulevard, Oak Street and Cedar and McLean avenues. Some 66 percent of it is zoned commercial, and 34 percent, residential. There, IDI hopes to create a mixed-use development featuring high-quality design and attractive streetscapes, plus market-rate, affordable and senior housing.

Its latest plan proposes a total of 555 residential units – 225 apartments (25 designated senior rentals), 220 condos and 110 townhouses – plus 10,000 square feet of retail, and 24,000 square feet for community and other uses inside a preserved portion of the original school building. The retail would comprise the bottom floor of the apartment building.

TO BUILD IT ALL, IDI is requesting both a rezoning and a Comprehensive Plan amendment to allow mixed uses on the site, plus a special-use permit allowing disturbance in the flood plain to create a culvert to reduce flooding. And since the Paul VI building was the original home of Fairfax High, IDI also intends to preserve the property’s history. Its latest application is primarily based on a design scheme that retains the original portion of the school where it is.

IDI would add a shared-use path along McLean Avenue and a 10-foot-wide walkway along the Fairfax Boulevard frontage. Vehicle trips per day are projected to increase by 2,246, but would be distributed throughout the day.

Drivers would access the site via an existing access from Oak Street and several points along Fairfax Boulevard. No vehicular connections are proposed between the site and McLean, Cedar or Keith avenues. A service road would run the length of the Fairfax Boulevard frontage, and Fairfax Boulevard would have slow-lane parking.

However, City officials are still concerned about the project’s high density and minimal amount of open space. And Mayor David Meyer reminded them that, “After the developer is gone, what remains is something we’ll have to live with, for the next generation.”

“Part of the open space is in two courtyard spaces for the residents, but they’re not accessible to community residents,” said Councilwoman Janice Miller. “How much open space remains [if that’s] removed? And with more than 500 residential units proposed – plus visitors, workmen and delivery people – how would there be enough parking? Adequate parking should be provided.”

Planning Commission Chairman Paul Cunningham said the intent of mixed-use was to give more intensity, but provide as much accessibility to the public as possible, and “Accessibility is one of the problems with this development.” He also said any commercial space along McLean would have to be screened, “So we need to look at these uses in more detail.

“We’ve got a very dense residential development [proposed] and a small amount of retail,” he continued. “I don’t know if this is the right, economic use for the City. It doesn’t meet a community need, in addition to the needs of that development’s residents. The overall project I’m not sure hits the target, yet.”

“This project still has a lot of challenges to work through,” added Councilwoman Ellie Schmidt.

But IDI executive Enrico Cecchi said his firm has a proven track record of providing communities that last. “We’re developing the Enclave [residential project],” he said. “It has strong market demand and we’ve developed an excellent working relationship with City staff. We’re over 75-percent sold, with homeowners moving in in December. We study the market to know what product will work well and where.”

He said there’s a big demand for condos in the City, and “We have a reputation for quality. Our product is attractive to seniors, move-down buyers and younger first-time homeowners. At the Enclave, we’ve had 65 percent senior buyers and 35 percent first-time buyers.”

Regarding the Paul VI plan, said Cecchi, “It offers a mix of housing options, provides preserved open space, an improved streetscape, ballfield parking and road improvements. There’s a need for attractive, senior housing, and our townhomes will allow elevators in about 30 percent of them.”

He said there’d be four pocket parks on site, plus linear parks along McLean, Cedar and the site’s western edge. “And the preserved village green in front could be used for farmers markets and music events,” said Cecchi. “We’d improve both the water quality and quantity on the property and reduce the stormwater and pollutant runoff. We’d provide a major upgrade to the City’s sewer system. [Overall], the average, net, fiscal benefit to the City would be between $1 million and $1.4 million/year.”

By right, he said, “There could be a mix of office/retail uses with large parking lots and building heights of 60 feet and five stories. It would mirror what’s across the street. We’ve had three, public meetings, and the community wanted an attractive streetscape along McLean, with height and density tapered toward their neighborhood. Along McLean, Cedar and Pat Rodio Park, we’re proposing three stories.”

Furthermore, said Cecchi, “By right, there’s no requirement to preserve existing structures, approve the Fairfax Boulevard streetscape or provide additional parking for Pat Rodio Park and major improvements to the storm-sewer facilities. We’ve had to balance the opinions of different stakeholders in the community, and we’d like your feedback.”

“The stormwater improvements are a strong pro for this project,” said Schmidt. “But I’d like to see more commercial [use] along Fairfax Boulevard.”

Councilwoman Jennifer Passey wanted more information about how the preserved building portion would be used, and Cecchi said a daycare would be an “ideal use. Also, a full-service or neighborhood restaurant would be good in that area, or a brewery or health-and-fitness uses. A nonprofit associated with the City could also go there, or a community use looking for space.”

Councilman Michael DeMarco asked which housing mixes are in demand here, and Cecchi said apartments, condos and townhouses are all hot. “Over the past year, the Enclave has been the fastest-selling condo development in Northern Virginia,” said Cecchi. “And for-sale is more popular than rental.”

Councilman Jon Stehle asked how City residents can continue having input on Paul VI, and Cecchi said IDI is still meeting with various stakeholders and community associations.

Schmidt asked how many different commercial uses are planned and the cost of the condos and townhouses. Cecchi said it’s too soon to estimate the costs, but “Today, it would be the high $600,000s to low $700,000s for townhouses. Condos would be $200,000 for one bedroom and the high $500,000s to $600,000s for three bedrooms.”

RE COMMERCIAL USES, he said probably two or three, such as fitness, restaurant and daycare. And, he added, “With commercial uses across the street, additional commercial might not be viable.”

Cunningham wondered about the surge parking for the space in front for vendors, customers or concert attendees. “Are you accommodating the parking needed for this type of use in the plan?” he asked.

And Planning Commissioner Janet Jaworski asked why there’s no connection to McLean Avenue. “We’re not opposed to connections there,” replied Cecchi. “But we heard strongly from the residents that they wanted that street improved, while retaining its residential character.”

However, Planning Commissioner Tom Burrell was not at all pleased. “You called things either pocket or linear parks only because that’s the grass you had left over after all the other space was used for other things,” he told Cecchi. “I think it’s way over-developed.”

Agreeing, Meyer said Burrell “summarized the community’s concerns with regard to this project’s density. You still have a lot of work to do and will have to focus on the balance and density of uses, open space and transportation. I don’t think the public is ready to embrace this in a positive way, and the residential density is of paramount concern.”