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Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Fairax lives matter ()
Date: December 16, 2016 01:03AM

Combined Properties has finally decided that after over 10 years of pain and misery as owners of retail space in the old town district of fairfax, their much outdated and hated shopping center Courthouse Plaza will be torn down and redeveloped.

The outdated Safeway which is a complete disaster will finally be renovated and residents of the city couldn't be happier!

More to come........

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Huh??? ()
Date: December 16, 2016 11:32AM

Where the fuck is Courthouse Plaza?

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: I Am In The Know ()
Date: December 16, 2016 12:07PM

Huh??? Wrote:
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> Where the fuck is Courthouse Plaza?


A secret place where ONLY the special people shop......

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: MBF ()
Date: December 16, 2016 02:36PM

Sweet! Some more new vacant office space and storefronts. We definitely don't have enough of that in Fairfax City. At least the old Le Peep/Joe's Pizza will get torn down.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: tG7hc ()
Date: December 16, 2016 11:12PM

Well, shit! Aren't they they ones who were supposed to be building Scout on the Circle? So much progress being make on that...

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Ty33F ()
Date: December 16, 2016 11:36PM

i'm sure they'll close the Pizza shop and put in a Taco place

you can't even see a white person if you stand near the courthouse and watch cars go by - damn few

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Cool disco dan ()
Date: December 17, 2016 06:45PM

Fairax lives matter Wrote:
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> Combined Properties has finally decided that after
> over 10 years of pain and misery as owners of
> retail space in the old town district of fairfax,
> their much outdated and hated shopping center
> Courthouse Plaza will be torn down and
> redeveloped.
>
> The outdated Safeway which is a complete disaster
> will finally be renovated and residents of the
> city couldn't be happier!
>
> More to come........

Just what Fairfax city needs,another torn down shopping center

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Fmcd ()
Date: December 18, 2016 05:53PM

yep combined dropped,the ball on scout on the circle but renovation in old town is a no brainer. Best real estate inside the city. The time is right for combined to turn is shopping center around.
I heard the new shopping center will contain.
Skating rink
Brew pub - sweet water or Arlington cinema draft house
New Safeway
New restaurants.
New retail will include
Pottery barn or container store
Custom ink or fed ex kinks
And potentially a new Costco

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Insanely Ignorant Resident ()
Date: December 18, 2016 06:02PM

Fmcd Wrote:
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> yep combined dropped,the ball on scout on the
> circle but renovation in old town is a no brainer.
> Best real estate inside the city. The time is
> right for combined to turn is shopping center
> around.
> I heard the new shopping center will contain.
> Skating rink
> Brew pub - sweet water or Arlington cinema draft
> house
> New Safeway
> New restaurants.
> New retail will include
> Pottery barn or container store
> Custom ink or fed ex kinks
> And potentially a new Costco


and a Chick-fil-a

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: 9Mctk ()
Date: December 18, 2016 06:03PM

Fmcd Wrote:
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> yep combined dropped,the ball on scout on the
> circle but renovation in old town is a no brainer.
> Best real estate inside the city. The time is
> right for combined to turn is shopping center
> around.
> I heard the new shopping center will contain.
> Skating rink
> Brew pub - sweet water or Arlington cinema draft
> house
> New Safeway
> New restaurants.
> New retail will include
> Pottery barn or container store
> Custom ink or fed ex kinks
> And potentially a new Costco

A Costco! Please, God, no!!!!

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: In reality............. ()
Date: December 18, 2016 08:08PM

.........Fairfax is trying to catch up to Manassas.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Make room ()
Date: December 18, 2016 08:14PM

Fmcd Wrote:
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> yep combined dropped,the ball on scout on the
> circle but renovation in old town is a no brainer.
> Best real estate inside the city. The time is
> right for combined to turn is shopping center
> around.
> I heard the new shopping center will contain.
> Skating rink
> Brew pub - sweet water or Arlington cinema draft
> house
> New Safeway
> New restaurants.
> New retail will include
> Pottery barn or container store
> Custom ink or fed ex kinks
> And potentially a new Costco


Is there enough room there for all that?

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Truth teller again ()
Date: December 18, 2016 08:23PM

Make room Wrote:
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> Fmcd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > yep combined dropped,the ball on scout on the
> > circle but renovation in old town is a no
> brainer.
> > Best real estate inside the city. The time is
> > right for combined to turn is shopping center
> > around.
> > I heard the new shopping center will contain.
> > Skating rink
> > Brew pub - sweet water or Arlington cinema
> draft
> > house
> > New Safeway
> > New restaurants.
> > New retail will include
> > Pottery barn or container store
> > Custom ink or fed ex kinks
> > And potentially a new Costco
>
>
> Is there enough room there for all that?

Not true.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Developer ()
Date: December 18, 2016 08:24PM

Make room Wrote:
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> Fmcd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > yep combined dropped,the ball on scout on the
> > circle but renovation in old town is a no
> brainer.
> > Best real estate inside the city. The time is
> > right for combined to turn is shopping center
> > around.
> > I heard the new shopping center will contain.
> > Skating rink
> > Brew pub - sweet water or Arlington cinema
> draft
> > house
> > New Safeway
> > New restaurants.
> > New retail will include
> > Pottery barn or container store
> > Custom ink or fed ex kinks
> > And potentially a new Costco
>
>
> Is there enough room there for all that?

NO F'ng way!

So you all hash out what you want and let the City Council know.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: sheep and more sheep ()
Date: December 18, 2016 09:06PM

Developer Wrote:
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> Make room Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fmcd Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > yep combined dropped,the ball on scout on the
> > > circle but renovation in old town is a no
> > brainer.
> > > Best real estate inside the city. The time is
> > > right for combined to turn is shopping center
> > > around.
> > > I heard the new shopping center will contain.
>
> > > Skating rink
> > > Brew pub - sweet water or Arlington cinema
> > draft
> > > house
> > > New Safeway
> > > New restaurants.
> > > New retail will include
> > > Pottery barn or container store
> > > Custom ink or fed ex kinks
> > > And potentially a new Costco
> >
> >
> > Is there enough room there for all that?
>
> NO F'ng way!
>
> So you all hash out what you want and let the City
> Council know.

Exactly. What a joke.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Next ()
Date: December 19, 2016 08:01PM

Never gonna happen. City council has no say. Combined has owned the shopping center for 10 years and they haven't done anything. They know the value of the land and are probably trying to sell the shopping center for a nice profit. Think about it, how many stores have come and gone over the years. Clearly combined has no interest And doesn't have the wherewithal to turn the shopping center into a great downtown destination. There is a ton of potential but it's all up to the owners and they are in no rush to do anything over there. Sorry city of fairfax....

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: FH7b4 ()
Date: December 19, 2016 08:44PM

Great downtown destination. PLEEEAAASE. People interested in going to great downtown destinations will head to real downtown destinations such as DC, Alexandria or Clarendon. People who are going to someplace in downtown Fairfax City are people who live or work in downtown Fairfax City.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Tell the truth ()
Date: December 19, 2016 11:51PM

Who drives through downtown Fairfax city when it is avoidable? Everyone. If you can cut through any neighborhoods or back roads, you do.
Locals know where these roads are and use them if there's a possible route.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Wegmans shopper ()
Date: January 07, 2017 11:06AM

Geez there are a lot of old people at the Safeway Courthouse Plaza.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: jbWeK ()
Date: January 07, 2017 10:03PM

I'll have to go to the county to shop. They're running out all my go-to places. I'm sure as hell not going to Fair City Mall. I hate that place.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Allie ()
Date: January 08, 2017 11:57AM

Anybody who lives in the city and is concerned about what is REALLY happening here should look at this link!

http://fairfaxtaxrevolt.org/

http://fairfaxtaxrevolt.org/

http://fairfaxtaxrevolt.org/


It's a damn shame and really pathetic that this has been going on for years. There needs to be an investigation and consequences to these actions.
Vote all the city council out and start fresh. Your votes count!

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: voodoo_slut ()
Date: January 08, 2017 12:37PM

shut this site down

edit by Cary (the admin): Imagery of a naked child removed. NCMEC report forced.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2017 02:15PM by Cary.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Youre going down!!! ()
Date: January 09, 2017 08:22AM

Looks like someone struck a nerve. Do you think the city council is reading this?


And to Whoever the filthy disgusting individual who made thae last post ... We will be seeing you. Good thing the fbi lives here.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Ilovesafeway ()
Date: January 09, 2017 06:51PM

Is there a link to a valid site with the Courthouse Plaza Plans?

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Nothiny ()
Date: January 09, 2017 07:09PM

They have not proposed anything yet

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: January 10, 2017 04:39PM


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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: except that ()
Date: January 10, 2017 08:14PM

the guy from Combined Properties who was willing to work these projects wanted Fairfax Circle done first, so that was shoved through and passed but now...

there is no anchor at the circle (grocery store) which was needed to secure financing the project so it's stalled

and

the guy has left Combined Properties so the city and CP are at a stand off like they have been for the last 20 years.

So the near future is dim.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Next 7-12 months. ()
Date: January 10, 2017 11:32PM

Over the next 6-12 months the following business are being pushed out of courthouse plaza.
Shoes for comfort
Title boxing
Chinese restaurant next to Safeway
Salon de mint
Jersey mikes subs.

Not sure about the rest but seems like combined is squashing the little retailers.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Michigan U chic ()
Date: January 11, 2017 12:02AM

And..... until Safeway, CVS, and BB&T end their leases, nothing can happen. These are the anchors there.

So another empty shopping center. How does the city stack up with Detroit?

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: 13 years they say ()
Date: January 12, 2017 11:36PM

Safeway has another 13 yrs on their lease, I was told last year. But I don't know if that means they can't redevelop.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: February 23, 2017 03:44PM

Updates on the Davies Property redevelopment project as of January 4:

• 4131 Chain Bridge Road — The developer submitted an application for multifamily residential redevelopment, is under review.

Source: http://patch.com/virginia/fairfaxcity/update-major-development-projects-fairfax

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Thanks for the update... ()
Date: February 23, 2017 04:04PM

Many changes in the works... We need less people and more businesses to help relieve some of the tax burden. Let's hope our new mayor and council can make it happen.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: nhmUu ()
Date: February 23, 2017 04:53PM

Joke Insurance Wrote:
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> Updates on the Davies Property redevelopment
> project as of January 4:
>
> • 4131 Chain Bridge Road — The developer
> submitted an application for multifamily
> residential redevelopment, is under review.
>
> Source:
> http://patch.com/virginia/fairfaxcity/update-major
> -development-projects-fairfax

That's not Courthouse Plaza.
That's the land right across the street from Red, Hot, and Blue on 123.

This was more interesting...

Fairfax Shopping Center, 10342-10412 Fairfax Boulevard — The property owner has proposed a redesigned shopping center with retail, restaurant, and Whole Foods 365 grocery; submission of complete application pending.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: February 23, 2017 04:57PM

nhmUu Wrote:
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> Joke Insurance Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Updates on the Davies Property redevelopment
> > project as of January 4:
> >
> > • 4131 Chain Bridge Road — The developer
> > submitted an application for multifamily
> > residential redevelopment, is under review.
> >
> > Source:
> >
> http://patch.com/virginia/fairfaxcity/update-major
>
> > -development-projects-fairfax
>
> That's not Courthouse Plaza.
> That's the land right across the street from Red,
> Hot, and Blue on 123.
>
> This was more interesting...
>
> Fairfax Shopping Center, 10342-10412 Fairfax
> Boulevard — The property owner has proposed a
> redesigned shopping center with retail,
> restaurant, and Whole Foods 365 grocery;
> submission of complete application pending.


That was already posted here: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/11/2034480/2482272.html#msg-2482272

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Deweloper ()
Date: February 23, 2017 09:57PM

I have heard on good authority that there are two possible uses for this site:

1.) housing complex for refugees
2.) New Arthur Treacher's location!

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: February 24, 2017 04:53PM

Deweloper Wrote:
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> I have heard on good authority that there are two
> possible uses for this site:
>
> 1.) housing complex for refugees
> 2.) New Arthur Treacher's location!


This is both fake news and a low energy post.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Arlington County Executive ()
Date: February 24, 2017 09:18PM

Joke Insurance Wrote:
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> Deweloper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have heard on good authority that there are
> two
> > possible uses for this site:
> >
> > 1.) housing complex for refugees
> > 2.) New Arthur Treacher's location!
>
>
> This is both fake news and a low energy post.


No. It is true. there will be a refugee center with an Arthur Treacher's in the food court. Fish and Chips for the hajis!

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: What a joke ()
Date: June 01, 2017 07:42PM

Fairfax circle still undeveloped four years after receiving entitlements from the city. They recently pulled a fast one on the new mayor who now believes that the real estate company is still planning on renovating. What a joke..... A cheap fence and some sign covering doesn't mean anything. The city should revoke all of combined properties permits.

As far as courthouse plaza. I was in the Safeway not too long ago and rain leaking from the ceiling fell on my head. Not a safe place to shop. Of course another shopping center owned by combined properties.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Passing thru boo ()
Date: June 01, 2017 07:54PM

Fairfax City is an ugly clusterfuck of traffic lights, used car lots, pedestrian-unfriendly old town, and rundown and abandoned strip malls. It's as if the city had a libtard mayor who spent all his time pursuing gay orgy hookups.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: fairfaxgmu ()
Date: July 06, 2017 04:09PM

SHopping center was sold.
Say goodbye to Safeway and tired shopping center.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Willard Scott ()
Date: July 06, 2017 04:49PM

Was McDonald's and the old Italian place included in the shopping center property?

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Fairfaxgmu ()
Date: July 06, 2017 06:10PM

McDonalds and Italian restaurant on old Lee are part of the deal.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Library user ()
Date: July 06, 2017 06:18PM

I saw a homeless person living in the recessed area by the drive thru window.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Only in Fairfax city ()
Date: July 06, 2017 06:22PM

Yep the shopping center owner has really let that place turn to shit.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Y4NXD ()
Date: July 06, 2017 10:02PM

fairfaxgmu Wrote:
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> SHopping center was sold.
> Say goodbye to Safeway and tired shopping center.

When was it sold?

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: cy4tk ()
Date: July 09, 2017 12:05AM

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: RealityCheck ()
Date: July 09, 2017 01:03AM

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: JasonL ()
Date: October 10, 2017 01:29AM

The shopping center now has 8 out of 18 spaces available. Maybe they're kicking everyone out for a redevelopment, finally?

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Jason L ()
Date: October 10, 2017 01:29AM

JasonL Wrote:
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> The shopping center now has 8 out of 18 spaces
> available. Maybe they're kicking everyone out for
> a redevelopment, finally?

http://www.combined.biz/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Courthouse.pdf

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Posted by: BLF3C ()
Date: October 10, 2017 05:19PM

Jason L Wrote:
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> JasonL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The shopping center now has 8 out of 18 spaces
> > available. Maybe they're kicking everyone out
> for
> > a redevelopment, finally?
>
> http://www.combined.biz/wp-content/uploads/2017/10
> /Courthouse.pdf

Looks like that Puente de Oro or whatever that restaurant was called is gone. So, they left the Combined Properties location where they used to be because of the supposed-to-have-been-built-already Scout on the Circle and moved to the Combined Properties location at Courthouse Plaza and now they are gone. Combined sounds like bad luck.

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Posted by: Year after Year ()
Date: October 11, 2017 07:56AM

Fairfax City remains an eyesore of abandoned strip malls, fly-by-night used car lots, closed restaurants, traffic jams, and blocked roads. It's so ugly, even the Catholics decided to abandon their high school in Fairfax.

That's what you get when your libtard voters elect a mayor whose only passion is gay orgies.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: FIFY2 ()
Date: October 11, 2017 08:03AM

Year after Year Wrote:
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> Fairfax City remains an eyesore of abandoned strip
> malls, fly-by-night used car lots, closed
> restaurants, traffic jams, and blocked roads. It's
> so ugly, even the Catholics decided to abandon
> their high school in Fairfax.
>
> That's what you get when your libtard voters elect
> a mayor whose only passion is gay orgies and meth.

Fixed it for you.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: publicbedamned ()
Date: October 11, 2017 08:38AM

FIFY2 Wrote:
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> Year after Year Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fairfax City remains an eyesore of abandoned
> strip
> > malls, fly-by-night used car lots, closed
> > restaurants, traffic jams, and blocked roads.
> It's
> > so ugly, even the Catholics decided to abandon
> > their high school in Fairfax.
> >
> > That's what you get when your libtard voters
> elect
> > a mayor whose only passion is gay orgies and
> meth
.
>
>

and a city council that lets the developers call all the shots.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: not sorry for ffx ()
Date: October 11, 2017 11:26AM

Good luck getting another grocery store to fill that slot (except maybe one of those H marts or similar) but even then, the parking in that lot SUCKS and safeway sucks EVEN HARDER.

I can tell you because my best friend worked at that safeway- took it for a summer job and quit after 2 months because even though the job was union and paid ok, he was doing THE ENTIRE department's work.

Older dept. manager just sat around and cried he was sick and just told him to do everything (no training at all, literally 2nd day of work threw him in cold) then complained when he couldn't get it all done by himself with no help. Threw newbie under the bus when it was obvious by the cameras who did what work. Being union, of course they took the older worker's side and the kid had to quit to stop being harassed.

Adios safeway.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: 3uyh7 ()
Date: October 11, 2017 11:55AM

publicbedamned Wrote:
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>
> and a city council that lets the developers call
> all the shots.

That one is true when you have Republicans in control as well.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Zzzzzzz ()
Date: October 11, 2017 04:55PM

Still waiting....

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: nothing happening ()
Date: October 11, 2017 08:20PM

Courthouse Plaza will not be redeveloped in the near future. City mayor and council say waiting on Scout/Ffx Circle to happen and if successful Combined may do some renovating at Courthouse Plaza. The project at Fairfax Circle just signed Giant Food so they got the anchor, but Combined still needs financing for the residential piece. It could be another 6 months before and if financing comes through.
Safeway, CVS, and bank on corner have long leases so really can't redevelop it.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: 6PYWP ()
Date: October 12, 2017 07:50PM

^^^
They probably won't start building until 2020! That place is an eyesore, and it is the first thing people see when entering the city going west.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: BishopJohnnyAwesville ()
Date: October 13, 2017 08:43PM

6PYWP Wrote:
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> ^^^
> They probably won't start building until 2020!
> That place is an eyesore, and it is the first
> thing people see when entering the city going
> west.

Yep, and visiting from the other side from I-66 via Rte. 50 you get to see a huge gravel patch with random highway roadsign parts, debris piles, backhoes, and dump trucks.

That was the first thing I saw when I moved to this area. Fairfax City sucks.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Joke Insurance ()
Date: October 16, 2017 02:45PM

The most recent article on Courthouse Plaza being redeveloped is from 2015:

Fairfax Projects Gets Approved While Another Gets Iced -
https://www.bisnow.com/washington-dc/news/commercial-real-estate/fairfax-projects-gets-approved-while-another-gets-iced-43388

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Maddog ()
Date: December 14, 2017 01:26AM

I've been in the city for over 25 years and can honestly say I've had it with the old town fairfax situation. In all my years I've never seen the downtown situation so bad. It's really sad at courthouse plaza. I've seen so many establishments go out of business. Panera, green turtle, and countless others. Workers and businesses are getting hurt badly. Many have lost their jobs and have even gone bankrupt and the landlord does NOTHING. In fact it is my understanding that they intentionally lease space knowing businesses will fail.
It's just not right for the city to let this continue. It's pretty clear that they don't have any recourse to deal with the landlord and therefore they do NOTHING! Maybe the city just wants the tax revenue. After so many business closures down there they will take anything they can get. So they allow Combined to operate a shady shopping center with no clear plan for success. Both the city and property owners are to blame. Please..... If anybody....the city or property owner are listening, do something. Anything.
We can't continue to let people get hurt and do nothing about it when there is an opportunity to make a difference in old town.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: PPYJU ()
Date: December 14, 2017 10:24AM

Maddog Wrote:
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> I've been in the city for over 25 years and can
> honestly say I've had it with the old town fairfax
> situation. In all my years I've never seen the
> downtown situation so bad. It's really sad at
> courthouse plaza. I've seen so many establishments
> go out of business. Panera, green turtle, and
> countless others. Workers and businesses are
> getting hurt badly. Many have lost their jobs and
> have even gone bankrupt and the landlord does
> NOTHING. In fact it is my understanding that they
> intentionally lease space knowing businesses will
> fail.
> It's just not right for the city to let this
> continue. It's pretty clear that they don't have
> any recourse to deal with the landlord and
> therefore they do NOTHING! Maybe the city just
> wants the tax revenue. After so many business
> closures down there they will take anything they
> can get. So they allow Combined to operate a shady
> shopping center with no clear plan for success.
> Both the city and property owners are to blame.
> Please..... If anybody....the city or property
> owner are listening, do something. Anything.
> We can't continue to let people get hurt and do
> nothing about it when there is an opportunity to
> make a difference in old town.

Slow your roll. It's WAY better than 25 years ago.
- There's a nice park with a water feature for kids where 10 years ago there was a parking lot and a rundown house that was supposedly a wig store.
- There's a completely new modern library with more parking
- There are still decent Indian, Asian, and Wine-centric restaurants.
- There is plenty of garage parking with more office space

It was a stupid location for a Greene Turtle. Their audience (consumers of average food, cheap beer, sports on TV) already has University Mall restaurants like O'Brien's, Oh George, Fat Tuesdays closer to home. Even Hard Times is closer with better food.

Panera was oversaturated in the area. There is one 3/4 mile away on Fairfax Blvd. and another one on the GMU campus.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: December 14, 2017 11:10AM

Maddog Wrote:
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> I've been in the city for over 25 years and can
> honestly say I've had it with the old town fairfax
> situation. In all my years I've never seen the
> downtown situation so bad. It's really sad at
> courthouse plaza. I've seen so many establishments
> go out of business. Panera, green turtle, and
> countless others. Workers and businesses are
> getting hurt badly. Many have lost their jobs and
> have even gone bankrupt and the landlord does
> NOTHING. In fact it is my understanding that they
> intentionally lease space knowing businesses will
> fail.
> It's just not right for the city to let this
> continue. It's pretty clear that they don't have
> any recourse to deal with the landlord and
> therefore they do NOTHING! Maybe the city just
> wants the tax revenue. After so many business
> closures down there they will take anything they
> can get. So they allow Combined to operate a shady
> shopping center with no clear plan for success.
> Both the city and property owners are to blame.
> Please..... If anybody....the city or property
> owner are listening, do something. Anything.
> We can't continue to let people get hurt and do
> nothing about it when there is an opportunity to
> make a difference in old town.


Do you go to FHS? Last year, maybe. Go do some research and come back when you understand a few things.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: We want to know ()
Date: December 14, 2017 11:21AM

Maddog Wrote:
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> I've been in the city for over 25 years and can
> honestly say I've had it with the old town fairfax
> situation. In all my years I've never seen the
> downtown situation so bad. It's really sad at
> courthouse plaza. I've seen so many establishments
> go out of business. Panera, green turtle, and
> countless others. Workers and businesses are
> getting hurt badly. Many have lost their jobs and
> have even gone bankrupt and the landlord does
> NOTHING. In fact it is my understanding that they
> intentionally lease space knowing businesses will
> fail.
> It's just not right for the city to let this
> continue. It's pretty clear that they don't have
> any recourse to deal with the landlord and
> therefore they do NOTHING! Maybe the city just
> wants the tax revenue. After so many business
> closures down there they will take anything they
> can get. So they allow Combined to operate a shady
> shopping center with no clear plan for success.
> Both the city and property owners are to blame.
> Please..... If anybody....the city or property
> owner are listening, do something. Anything.
> We can't continue to let people get hurt and do
> nothing about it when there is an opportunity to
> make a difference in old town.

What is your suggestion to fix the situation?

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Wrong Forum ()
Date: December 14, 2017 12:20PM

Not Arthur Treacher's focused.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: fhs ()
Date: May 04, 2018 11:56PM

has anybody been to Tandoori Nights?

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: STEWMAC () ()
Date: May 05, 2018 12:09AM

Unless they serve soup, they won't be getting my money.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Get What You Deserve ()
Date: May 05, 2018 07:12AM

Moronic libtard voters get the failed small city that is Fairfax. What a dump!

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: Fairfax City redident ()
Date: May 05, 2018 01:41PM

Fairax lives matter Wrote:
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> Combined Properties has finally decided that after
> over 10 years of pain and misery as owners of
> retail space in the old town district of fairfax,
> their much outdated and hated shopping center
> Courthouse Plaza will be torn down and
> redeveloped.
>
> The outdated Safeway which is a complete disaster
> will finally be renovated and residents of the
> city couldn't be happier!
>
> More to come........

1 1/2 yr later. How's that working out?

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: wouldn't hold breath ()
Date: May 11, 2018 01:57AM

Fairfax City redident Wrote:
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> Fairax lives matter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Combined Properties has finally decided that
> after
> > over 10 years of pain and misery as owners of
> > retail space in the old town district of
> fairfax,
> > their much outdated and hated shopping center
> > Courthouse Plaza will be torn down and
> > redeveloped.
> >
> > The outdated Safeway which is a complete
> disaster
> > will finally be renovated and residents of the
> > city couldn't be happier!
> >
> > More to come........
>
> 1 1/2 yr later. How's that working out?

They might reface the place, but a total rebuild? Not likely. Safeway has a lease that runs till 2033 at a cost of $5 a square foot. CVS has something similar. The anchor tenants aren't going to exit out of leases that cheap, and it isn't in Combined Properties interests to do major renovations in the meantime; their income won't magically go up if they pour tons of money into the place.

It's possible Safeway and CVS will be willing to see their lease costs go up in exchange for improvements to the buildins, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: gmug ()
Date: August 25, 2018 01:19AM

Place is a dump.... but new gmu student housing proposed to be built behind the shopping center. should help the downtown economy. cant count how many businesses have left over the years.

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: 5 yrs later... ()
Date: September 09, 2020 12:55AM

pipe Dreams...

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Re: Courthouse Plaza to be redeveloped FINALLY!!!!!
Posted by: sane ()
Date: September 09, 2020 01:17AM

If they tear down that Pizza Hut, will there even be any left in the area? Seems like all the others close by...Merrifield, Vienna, Rt 236, etc.... have closed up. Some of us actually like their Pizza.....particularly the thin crust.

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