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Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
DhuPy
()
Date: November 21, 2016 02:37PM
Someone explain please.
I remember a time when all of the above could afford their own piece of the pie in Fairfax county.
Hell, one of my neighbors growing up was a cab/taxi driver and even he could afford his own unattached home and he sent both of his kids to private schools in DC.
Then things in our area changed... Drastically.
I remember a time when all of the above could afford their own piece of the pie in Fairfax county.
Hell, one of my neighbors growing up was a cab/taxi driver and even he could afford his own unattached home and he sent both of his kids to private schools in DC.
Then things in our area changed... Drastically.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
LKmmp
()
Date: November 21, 2016 05:05PM
?
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
MyAnswer23
()
Date: November 21, 2016 05:06PM
I believe the answer is Sept 12, 2001.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
confuse-a-cat, at your service
()
Date: November 21, 2016 05:16PM
Policemen, firemen, and teachers are for the most part government workers. What exactly are you blaming them for?
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
LVxNY
()
Date: November 21, 2016 05:20PM
confuse-a-cat, at your service Wrote:
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> Policemen, firemen, and teachers are for the most
> part government workers. What exactly are you
> blaming them for?
Seriously? In regards to the original topic, are you that dumb?
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> Policemen, firemen, and teachers are for the most
> part government workers. What exactly are you
> blaming them for?
Seriously? In regards to the original topic, are you that dumb?
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Bob3456
()
Date: November 21, 2016 05:30PM
Just go to the icare website and look at property values after 2000 or so.. they just keep ballooning since then.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
9FTvD
()
Date: November 21, 2016 05:37PM
Illegals who shack up 10+ people to an apartment do not help matters either.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
causeican
()
Date: November 21, 2016 06:10PM
Bob3456 Wrote:
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> Just go to the icare website and look at property
> values after 2000 or so.. they just keep
> ballooning since then.
except for in 2007/08 when they deflated.
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> Just go to the icare website and look at property
> values after 2000 or so.. they just keep
> ballooning since then.
except for in 2007/08 when they deflated.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
UF4tv
()
Date: November 21, 2016 06:19PM
causeican Wrote:
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> Bob3456 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just go to the icare website and look at
> property
> > values after 2000 or so.. they just keep
> > ballooning since then.
>
>
> except for in 2007/08 when they deflated.
Yeah but then they jumped right back up.
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> Bob3456 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just go to the icare website and look at
> property
> > values after 2000 or so.. they just keep
> > ballooning since then.
>
>
> except for in 2007/08 when they deflated.
Yeah but then they jumped right back up.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
umLeU
()
Date: November 22, 2016 07:05AM
Greedy landlords think everybody can pay what the feds can pay for rent.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Dr. Memory
()
Date: November 22, 2016 07:20AM
Confuse-a-cat is correct. In my neighborhood of single family detached homes we have active and retired feds, a Metro police officer, an employee of a supermarket chain, some old-timers, some immigrants, lawyers, teachers, and at least one nurse. The market is what it is. The metro DC area has lots of higher than average phenomena. Here's one that is somewhat arcane, and you can judge whether it is indicative of anything--the pass rate for the Jeopardy screening test, when given in the DC area, is twice the national rate. There are a lot of smart, well-educated, hardworking, two-paycheck families in the area. Northern Virginia real estate has been a solid investment for decades. What do you think that means for real estate values? Hint: it does not mean they will go down.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
uJPYK
()
Date: November 22, 2016 08:24AM
Dr. Memory Wrote:
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> Confuse-a-cat is correct. In my neighborhood of
> single family detached homes we have active and
> retired feds, a Metro police officer, an employee
> of a supermarket chain, some old-timers, some
> immigrants, lawyers, teachers, and at least one
> nurse. The market is what it is. The metro DC
> area has lots of higher than average phenomena.
> Here's one that is somewhat arcane, and you can
> judge whether it is indicative of anything--the
> pass rate for the Jeopardy screening test, when
> given in the DC area, is twice the national rate.
> There are a lot of smart, well-educated,
> hardworking, two-paycheck families in the area.
> Northern Virginia real estate has been a solid
> investment for decades. What do you think that
> means for real estate values? Hint: it does not
> mean they will go down.
You did not answer the OP's question.
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> Confuse-a-cat is correct. In my neighborhood of
> single family detached homes we have active and
> retired feds, a Metro police officer, an employee
> of a supermarket chain, some old-timers, some
> immigrants, lawyers, teachers, and at least one
> nurse. The market is what it is. The metro DC
> area has lots of higher than average phenomena.
> Here's one that is somewhat arcane, and you can
> judge whether it is indicative of anything--the
> pass rate for the Jeopardy screening test, when
> given in the DC area, is twice the national rate.
> There are a lot of smart, well-educated,
> hardworking, two-paycheck families in the area.
> Northern Virginia real estate has been a solid
> investment for decades. What do you think that
> means for real estate values? Hint: it does not
> mean they will go down.
You did not answer the OP's question.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Dasher
()
Date: November 22, 2016 09:15AM
So- those of us who work in the "Service industry" have NO chance of affording even an apartment on our own, we are forced to have roommates.
TL;DR if you make less than 60k/year in this area, you are screwed. One can barely rent an apartment with that! A house is a pipe dream when you are paying $1600/month for rent, $500/month student loans, $300/month car note, etc etc....and if you have a kid...welp....
TL;DR if you make less than 60k/year in this area, you are screwed. One can barely rent an apartment with that! A house is a pipe dream when you are paying $1600/month for rent, $500/month student loans, $300/month car note, etc etc....and if you have a kid...welp....
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
OP is a poor faggot
()
Date: November 22, 2016 09:20AM
Rents are cheap in this area, if you can't afford it you're just a poor fucking peasant. Fuck off back to West Virginia.
OP is the same peasant who makes all the threads with really long titles bitching about the COL in this area. Here's a suggestion, make more money you lazy plebe.
OP is the same peasant who makes all the threads with really long titles bitching about the COL in this area. Here's a suggestion, make more money you lazy plebe.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Rendezvous
()
Date: November 22, 2016 09:28AM
9FTvD Wrote:
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> Illegals who shack up 10+ people to an apartment
> do not help matters either.
Exactly. I went to the U. of Md. at a time when affordable off-campus housing was easy to find but those days are over. Drive through College Park these days on
a weekend and all you see are illegal alien "tough guys" hanging out on the
streets with nothing to do but intimidate students. Go Trump!
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> Illegals who shack up 10+ people to an apartment
> do not help matters either.
Exactly. I went to the U. of Md. at a time when affordable off-campus housing was easy to find but those days are over. Drive through College Park these days on
a weekend and all you see are illegal alien "tough guys" hanging out on the
streets with nothing to do but intimidate students. Go Trump!
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
landlord..
()
Date: November 22, 2016 09:39AM
umLeU Wrote:
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> Greedy landlords think everybody can pay what the
> feds can pay for rent.
No, most landlords can't even make a profit around here within the first 5+ years. It's actually cheaper to rent than to own in a lot of cases.
$500,000 home, $100k down, with a $400k mortgage is about $2,600 a month with insurance and RE taxes. Add in maintenance/repairs and your costs are about $3,000 per month.
Most $500,000 homes rent out for $2,400 - $2,800
Add to that constantly rising RE taxes, landlords are not just being greedy.
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> Greedy landlords think everybody can pay what the
> feds can pay for rent.
No, most landlords can't even make a profit around here within the first 5+ years. It's actually cheaper to rent than to own in a lot of cases.
$500,000 home, $100k down, with a $400k mortgage is about $2,600 a month with insurance and RE taxes. Add in maintenance/repairs and your costs are about $3,000 per month.
Most $500,000 homes rent out for $2,400 - $2,800
Add to that constantly rising RE taxes, landlords are not just being greedy.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
x7bDW
()
Date: November 22, 2016 10:53AM
OP is a poor faggot Wrote:
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> Rents are cheap in this area, if you can't afford
> it you're just a poor fucking peasant. Fuck off
> back to West Virginia.
>
>
> OP is the same peasant who makes all the threads
> with really long titles bitching about the COL in
> this area. Here's a suggestion, make more money
> you lazy plebe.
Are insults all that you have?
Grow up.
Add some civility to the conversation.
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> Rents are cheap in this area, if you can't afford
> it you're just a poor fucking peasant. Fuck off
> back to West Virginia.
>
>
> OP is the same peasant who makes all the threads
> with really long titles bitching about the COL in
> this area. Here's a suggestion, make more money
> you lazy plebe.
Are insults all that you have?
Grow up.
Add some civility to the conversation.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
So Let Me Understand
()
Date: November 22, 2016 11:45AM
My wife and I, both contractors, have a combined salary of about $300K. Should we lower our standard if living because you can't compete due to choosing to pursue a degree in Art History??
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
7E9hT
()
Date: November 22, 2016 12:06PM
So Let Me Understand Wrote:
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> My wife and I, both contractors, have a combined
> salary of about $300K. Should we lower our
> standard if living because you can't compete due
> to choosing to pursue a degree in Art History??
You are missing the entire point of this thread.
Years ago everyone could coexist and have their own little piece of the pie.
Both the feds and employees of stores such as Britches, W Bell, Hahns etc... Hotel maids, waitresses in restaurants etc...
Now days not so much.
Don't hate. You and your wife were both young once too.
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> My wife and I, both contractors, have a combined
> salary of about $300K. Should we lower our
> standard if living because you can't compete due
> to choosing to pursue a degree in Art History??
You are missing the entire point of this thread.
Years ago everyone could coexist and have their own little piece of the pie.
Both the feds and employees of stores such as Britches, W Bell, Hahns etc... Hotel maids, waitresses in restaurants etc...
Now days not so much.
Don't hate. You and your wife were both young once too.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Dr. Memory
()
Date: November 22, 2016 04:51PM
Police, firefighters, nurses and teachers live in my neighborhood. The cost of living is not prohibitive for them. Old saying: You can manage your money, or your money will manage you. Don't buy more car than you need. Don't go in hock for anything that depreciates. Don't consume alcohol. Don't smoke cigarettes. Don't use illegal drugs. Stay out of clubs. Make your lunch at home and take it to work. Your cost of living is not entirely under your control, but in those areas that are, you have choices.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
pxd6w
()
Date: November 22, 2016 07:03PM
Dr. Memory Wrote:
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> Police, firefighters, nurses and teachers live in
> my neighborhood. The cost of living is not
> prohibitive for them. Old saying: You can manage
> your money, or your money will manage you. Don't
> buy more car than you need. Don't go in hock for
> anything that depreciates. Don't consume alcohol.
> Don't smoke cigarettes. Don't use illegal drugs.
> Stay out of clubs. Make your lunch at home and
> take it to work. Your cost of living is not
> entirely under your control, but in those areas
> that are, you have choices.
Yeah because they bought their property in your neighborhood years ago.
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> Police, firefighters, nurses and teachers live in
> my neighborhood. The cost of living is not
> prohibitive for them. Old saying: You can manage
> your money, or your money will manage you. Don't
> buy more car than you need. Don't go in hock for
> anything that depreciates. Don't consume alcohol.
> Don't smoke cigarettes. Don't use illegal drugs.
> Stay out of clubs. Make your lunch at home and
> take it to work. Your cost of living is not
> entirely under your control, but in those areas
> that are, you have choices.
Yeah because they bought their property in your neighborhood years ago.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
lets face it...
()
Date: November 22, 2016 07:38PM
pxd6w Wrote:
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> Dr. Memory Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> Yeah because they bought their property in your
> neighborhood years ago.
You're just poor and will probably always be poor. Home prices even around here haven't done nearly as well as other investments, you would have been better off sticking your money in an index fund and renting.
Buying a $500k home in 2010 the bottom of the market, your home would be worth about $650k - 750k today. Not counting any expenses.
$500k in 2010 in a plain Jain index fund would be almost $1,500,000 today with dividends reinvested
As Dr. Money said, it's all about how you manage your money. Live frugally, invest, and you too can maybe one day can afford a home.
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> Dr. Memory Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> Yeah because they bought their property in your
> neighborhood years ago.
You're just poor and will probably always be poor. Home prices even around here haven't done nearly as well as other investments, you would have been better off sticking your money in an index fund and renting.
Buying a $500k home in 2010 the bottom of the market, your home would be worth about $650k - 750k today. Not counting any expenses.
$500k in 2010 in a plain Jain index fund would be almost $1,500,000 today with dividends reinvested
As Dr. Money said, it's all about how you manage your money. Live frugally, invest, and you too can maybe one day can afford a home.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Dave Ramsey
()
Date: November 22, 2016 07:49PM
If you don't know who this is, you need too.
I'm wealthy now because of his methods.
I'm wealthy now because of his methods.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
FFX County
()
Date: November 22, 2016 07:49PM
The County Executive reports that the median house price in Fairfax County increased in price by 0.0% over the past year. We have noticed that the tax appraisals of homes at $1M level have been flat since 2010 - no increase in value. Increases in home prices are generally directly related to incomes (ignoring the one time effects of willingness to take on higher debt as a percentage of income e.g. late 90s, early 00s, and declining mortgage rates). As incomes stagnate (Social security cola has been 0% and Federal Wage increases have been very low - avg of 1% over past five years) and job growth in FFX County has been anemic - 0.1% in 2015 and higher wage Business and Professional Services jobs are still not back to 2012 levels due to sequester) home prices will come under pressure. Anyone who believes home prices can't come down is fooling themselves - a house down our street recently sold for $1.3M or $500,000 less than its sales price in 2008 (and it was well taken care of). This may be extreme but I think it is indicative of what is happening at the +$1M price point. That being said, a PP's comment about the rise of two earner families is responsible for a lot of the increase in prices for housing in this area. It won't last, especially if Steve Bannon is successful in cutting the compensation for Federal workers and the contractors...
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dmb/workshops/county-budget-presentation-10-04-2016.pdf see p. 6 for data cited
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dmb/workshops/county-budget-presentation-10-04-2016.pdf see p. 6 for data cited
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
WVphL
()
Date: November 22, 2016 07:52PM
lets face it... Wrote:
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> pxd6w Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dr. Memory Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > Yeah because they bought their property in your
> > neighborhood years ago.
>
> You're just poor and will probably always be poor.
> Home prices even around here haven't done nearly
> as well as other investments, you would have been
> better off sticking your money in an index fund
> and renting.
>
> Buying a $500k home in 2010 the bottom of the
> market, your home would be worth about $650k -
> 750k today. Not counting any expenses.
>
> $500k in 2010 in a plain Jain index fund would be
> almost $1,500,000 today with dividends reinvested
>
>
> As Dr. Money said, it's all about how you manage
> your money. Live frugally, invest, and you too can
> maybe one day can afford a home.
Stop assuming things.
This thread has nothing to do with being poor or rich.
This thread is about government employees & government contractors ruining the cost of living for everybody else.
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> pxd6w Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dr. Memory Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > Yeah because they bought their property in your
> > neighborhood years ago.
>
> You're just poor and will probably always be poor.
> Home prices even around here haven't done nearly
> as well as other investments, you would have been
> better off sticking your money in an index fund
> and renting.
>
> Buying a $500k home in 2010 the bottom of the
> market, your home would be worth about $650k -
> 750k today. Not counting any expenses.
>
> $500k in 2010 in a plain Jain index fund would be
> almost $1,500,000 today with dividends reinvested
>
>
> As Dr. Money said, it's all about how you manage
> your money. Live frugally, invest, and you too can
> maybe one day can afford a home.
Stop assuming things.
This thread has nothing to do with being poor or rich.
This thread is about government employees & government contractors ruining the cost of living for everybody else.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
bad timing too
()
Date: November 22, 2016 08:02PM
FFX County Wrote:
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$1.3M or
> $500,000 less than its sales price in 2008 (and it
> was well taken care of). T
Home prices fell for another 2 - 3 years after 2008.
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$1.3M or
> $500,000 less than its sales price in 2008 (and it
> was well taken care of). T
Home prices fell for another 2 - 3 years after 2008.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
UX3Nk
()
Date: November 22, 2016 08:05PM
Government employees & government contractors are not rich. They earn a decent salary but are far from rich. Danny boy Snyder is rich.
Some random fed contractor who moved here from Kansas to leech off of the government who earns a decent salary is not rich.
Some random fed contractor who moved here from Kansas to leech off of the government who earns a decent salary is not rich.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
lets face it...
()
Date: November 22, 2016 08:06PM
WVphL Wrote:
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> lets face it... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > pxd6w Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dr. Memory Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> >
> > > Yeah because they bought their property in
> your
> > > neighborhood years ago.
> >
> > You're just poor and will probably always be
> poor.
> > Home prices even around here haven't done
> nearly
> > as well as other investments, you would have
> been
> > better off sticking your money in an index fund
> > and renting.
> >
> > Buying a $500k home in 2010 the bottom of the
> > market, your home would be worth about $650k -
> > 750k today. Not counting any expenses.
> >
> > $500k in 2010 in a plain Jain index fund would
> be
> > almost $1,500,000 today with dividends
> reinvested
> >
> >
> > As Dr. Money said, it's all about how you
> manage
> > your money. Live frugally, invest, and you too
> can
> > maybe one day can afford a home.
>
> Stop assuming things.
>
> This thread has nothing to do with being poor or
> rich.
>
> This thread is about government employees &
> government contractors ruining the cost of living
> for everybody else.
It's not about being poor or rich, my point was teachers, policeman, fireman and the like can afford homes in Fairfax County. It's quite apparent you cannot, maybe one day. Until then there is P.G County or Fredericksburg, you may be able to find a nice little condo with your $30k annual salary and 3.5% down payment.
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> lets face it... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > pxd6w Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dr. Memory Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> >
> > > Yeah because they bought their property in
> your
> > > neighborhood years ago.
> >
> > You're just poor and will probably always be
> poor.
> > Home prices even around here haven't done
> nearly
> > as well as other investments, you would have
> been
> > better off sticking your money in an index fund
> > and renting.
> >
> > Buying a $500k home in 2010 the bottom of the
> > market, your home would be worth about $650k -
> > 750k today. Not counting any expenses.
> >
> > $500k in 2010 in a plain Jain index fund would
> be
> > almost $1,500,000 today with dividends
> reinvested
> >
> >
> > As Dr. Money said, it's all about how you
> manage
> > your money. Live frugally, invest, and you too
> can
> > maybe one day can afford a home.
>
> Stop assuming things.
>
> This thread has nothing to do with being poor or
> rich.
>
> This thread is about government employees &
> government contractors ruining the cost of living
> for everybody else.
It's not about being poor or rich, my point was teachers, policeman, fireman and the like can afford homes in Fairfax County. It's quite apparent you cannot, maybe one day. Until then there is P.G County or Fredericksburg, you may be able to find a nice little condo with your $30k annual salary and 3.5% down payment.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
yGwTU
()
Date: November 22, 2016 08:10PM
lets face it... Wrote:
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> WVphL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lets face it... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > pxd6w Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Dr. Memory Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah because they bought their property in
> > your
> > > > neighborhood years ago.
> > >
> > > You're just poor and will probably always be
> > poor.
> > > Home prices even around here haven't done
> > nearly
> > > as well as other investments, you would have
> > been
> > > better off sticking your money in an index
> fund
> > > and renting.
> > >
> > > Buying a $500k home in 2010 the bottom of the
> > > market, your home would be worth about $650k
> -
> > > 750k today. Not counting any expenses.
> > >
> > > $500k in 2010 in a plain Jain index fund
> would
> > be
> > > almost $1,500,000 today with dividends
> > reinvested
> > >
> > >
> > > As Dr. Money said, it's all about how you
> > manage
> > > your money. Live frugally, invest, and you
> too
> > can
> > > maybe one day can afford a home.
> >
> > Stop assuming things.
> >
> > This thread has nothing to do with being poor
> or
> > rich.
> >
> > This thread is about government employees &
> > government contractors ruining the cost of
> living
> > for everybody else.
>
>
> It's not about being poor or rich, my point was
> teachers, policeman, fireman and the like can
> afford homes in Fairfax County. It's quite
> apparent you cannot, maybe one day. Until then
> there is P.G County or Fredericksburg, you may be
> able to find a nice little condo with your $30k
> annual salary and 3.5% down payment.
This thread is about the present. Not the past.
We are not talking about 2010 we are talking about today in 2016.
Get your head out of your ass.
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> WVphL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lets face it... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > pxd6w Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Dr. Memory Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah because they bought their property in
> > your
> > > > neighborhood years ago.
> > >
> > > You're just poor and will probably always be
> > poor.
> > > Home prices even around here haven't done
> > nearly
> > > as well as other investments, you would have
> > been
> > > better off sticking your money in an index
> fund
> > > and renting.
> > >
> > > Buying a $500k home in 2010 the bottom of the
> > > market, your home would be worth about $650k
> -
> > > 750k today. Not counting any expenses.
> > >
> > > $500k in 2010 in a plain Jain index fund
> would
> > be
> > > almost $1,500,000 today with dividends
> > reinvested
> > >
> > >
> > > As Dr. Money said, it's all about how you
> > manage
> > > your money. Live frugally, invest, and you
> too
> > can
> > > maybe one day can afford a home.
> >
> > Stop assuming things.
> >
> > This thread has nothing to do with being poor
> or
> > rich.
> >
> > This thread is about government employees &
> > government contractors ruining the cost of
> living
> > for everybody else.
>
>
> It's not about being poor or rich, my point was
> teachers, policeman, fireman and the like can
> afford homes in Fairfax County. It's quite
> apparent you cannot, maybe one day. Until then
> there is P.G County or Fredericksburg, you may be
> able to find a nice little condo with your $30k
> annual salary and 3.5% down payment.
This thread is about the present. Not the past.
We are not talking about 2010 we are talking about today in 2016.
Get your head out of your ass.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
lets face it...
()
Date: November 22, 2016 08:19PM
yGwTU Wrote:
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> lets face it... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> This thread is about the present. Not the past.
> We are not talking about 2010 we are talking about
> today in 2016.
> Get your head out of your ass.
"Yeah because they bought their property in your neighborhood years ago."
You brought up the past, and I brought you facts. I'll even talk about the future for you, in 2017 teachers, policeman, fireman and the like can afford homes in Fairfax County. Those without a pot to piss in will continue to be poor in 2017, and they will continue to make threads with really long titles.
-------------------------------------------------------
> lets face it... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> This thread is about the present. Not the past.
> We are not talking about 2010 we are talking about
> today in 2016.
> Get your head out of your ass.
"Yeah because they bought their property in your neighborhood years ago."
You brought up the past, and I brought you facts. I'll even talk about the future for you, in 2017 teachers, policeman, fireman and the like can afford homes in Fairfax County. Those without a pot to piss in will continue to be poor in 2017, and they will continue to make threads with really long titles.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Kuj4T
()
Date: November 22, 2016 09:27PM
lets face it... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> yGwTU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lets face it... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > This thread is about the present. Not the past.
> > We are not talking about 2010 we are talking
> about
> > today in 2016.
> > Get your head out of your ass.
>
> "Yeah because they bought their property in your
> neighborhood years ago."
>
> You brought up the past, and I brought you facts.
> I'll even talk about the future for you, in 2017
> teachers, policeman, fireman and the like can
> afford homes in Fairfax County. Those without a
> pot to piss in will continue to be poor in 2017,
> and they will continue to make threads with really
> long titles.
But you are the person who first brought up people who purchased years ago as your example.
-------------------------------------------------------
> yGwTU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lets face it... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > This thread is about the present. Not the past.
> > We are not talking about 2010 we are talking
> about
> > today in 2016.
> > Get your head out of your ass.
>
> "Yeah because they bought their property in your
> neighborhood years ago."
>
> You brought up the past, and I brought you facts.
> I'll even talk about the future for you, in 2017
> teachers, policeman, fireman and the like can
> afford homes in Fairfax County. Those without a
> pot to piss in will continue to be poor in 2017,
> and they will continue to make threads with really
> long titles.
But you are the person who first brought up people who purchased years ago as your example.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Dr. Memory
()
Date: November 23, 2016 08:01AM
Free Market. Supply and Demand. The DC Metro area has a large percentage of its population engaged in government work of some kind, which by extension means stable salaries and the expectation of steady employment stretching out decades. There have been years without across-the-board pay increases for USG employees. Within-grade increases for many feds means there were still new dollars going into the local economy every year. Everyones' household budget encompasses mandatory spending and discretionary spending, just like the USG's. Anyone can take a couple of hours to document spending over the last three months and identify unnecessary purchases, then take steps to eliminate the non-mandatory, re-designating those for saving. An honest effort at disciplined budgeting ought to show results in 3-6 months. For further information, the public library has loads of personal finance books and magazines available at no charge to you. Michelle Singletary's columns in the Post are always worth reading. Taking charge of one's personal finances and watching assets grow is much more fun than wailing about the cost of living.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
jhMUP
()
Date: November 23, 2016 08:25AM
LOL @ fed contractors getting all butt hurt over people calling them out on their leeching
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
MVuKX
()
Date: November 23, 2016 08:26AM
Not everyone can be a highly-paid government contractor.
So for those of us that work in the service industry, we get a hearty "fuck you" when we ask for affordable housing for us to be able to live close (within reason) to where we work.
THIS is the crux of the problem- illegals have taken over any and all lower-income housing situations- so us AMERICAN service workers have no shot at getting said lower-income housing, so we are upset the higher-ups who have the power to get rid of the illegals so we have a chance to live to do NOTHING.
They are happy to have Paco work for them for $10 an hour, look the other way when Paco and his 8 friends overcrowd the lower-income apartment/townhouse/housing communities pooling their money to work together, then poor Mark can't make it because he cannot compete with said illegals- since he requires $15 an hour to raise his family and his family preaches "bootstraps" but Mark doesn't even have 3 friends to split the rent with- because his friends are all in the same boat.
Can't win for losing...
So for those of us that work in the service industry, we get a hearty "fuck you" when we ask for affordable housing for us to be able to live close (within reason) to where we work.
THIS is the crux of the problem- illegals have taken over any and all lower-income housing situations- so us AMERICAN service workers have no shot at getting said lower-income housing, so we are upset the higher-ups who have the power to get rid of the illegals so we have a chance to live to do NOTHING.
They are happy to have Paco work for them for $10 an hour, look the other way when Paco and his 8 friends overcrowd the lower-income apartment/townhouse/housing communities pooling their money to work together, then poor Mark can't make it because he cannot compete with said illegals- since he requires $15 an hour to raise his family and his family preaches "bootstraps" but Mark doesn't even have 3 friends to split the rent with- because his friends are all in the same boat.
Can't win for losing...
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
kdpLt
()
Date: November 23, 2016 08:27AM
Dr. Memory Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Free Market. Supply and Demand. The DC Metro
> area has a large percentage of its population
> engaged in government work of some kind, which by
> extension means stable salaries and the
> expectation of steady employment stretching out
> decades. There have been years without
> across-the-board pay increases for USG employees.
> Within-grade increases for many feds means there
> were still new dollars going into the local
> economy every year. Everyones' household budget
> encompasses mandatory spending and discretionary
> spending, just like the USG's. Anyone can take a
> couple of hours to document spending over the last
> three months and identify unnecessary purchases,
> then take steps to eliminate the non-mandatory,
> re-designating those for saving. An honest effort
> at disciplined budgeting ought to show results in
> 3-6 months. For further information, the public
> library has loads of personal finance books and
> magazines available at no charge to you. Michelle
> Singletary's columns in the Post are always worth
> reading. Taking charge of one's personal finances
> and watching assets grow is much more fun than
> wailing about the cost of living.
Once again you did not answer the OP's question.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Free Market. Supply and Demand. The DC Metro
> area has a large percentage of its population
> engaged in government work of some kind, which by
> extension means stable salaries and the
> expectation of steady employment stretching out
> decades. There have been years without
> across-the-board pay increases for USG employees.
> Within-grade increases for many feds means there
> were still new dollars going into the local
> economy every year. Everyones' household budget
> encompasses mandatory spending and discretionary
> spending, just like the USG's. Anyone can take a
> couple of hours to document spending over the last
> three months and identify unnecessary purchases,
> then take steps to eliminate the non-mandatory,
> re-designating those for saving. An honest effort
> at disciplined budgeting ought to show results in
> 3-6 months. For further information, the public
> library has loads of personal finance books and
> magazines available at no charge to you. Michelle
> Singletary's columns in the Post are always worth
> reading. Taking charge of one's personal finances
> and watching assets grow is much more fun than
> wailing about the cost of living.
Once again you did not answer the OP's question.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
mnKF3
()
Date: November 23, 2016 08:31AM
The rest of the country hates the DC area.
Just look at this past election day as a prime example.
Just look at this past election day as a prime example.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
xDD9d
()
Date: November 23, 2016 08:34AM
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Dr. Memory
()
Date: November 23, 2016 11:13AM
There is no answer to OP's question. The condition described does not exist.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
79CeN
()
Date: November 23, 2016 11:37AM
Dr. Memory Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is no answer to OP's question. The
> condition described does not exist.
When did you move to this area? 10 years ago?
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is no answer to OP's question. The
> condition described does not exist.
When did you move to this area? 10 years ago?
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
eDWVc
()
Date: November 23, 2016 12:03PM
Feds live in their own self interest, smug, little bubble.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
captcha guy talking to himself
()
Date: November 23, 2016 12:28PM
If you spent as much time learning a skill and making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you would have a nice home by now.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
typing a name just for you
()
Date: November 23, 2016 12:52PM
captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
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> If you spent as much time learning a skill and
> making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> would have a nice home by now.
(speaking for myself) I use the captcha because I am too lazy to think of a name to put in the "your name" box, I bet there are others, I know I am not the only one that does this!
Oh, and think of better insults.
Fact is- no one making <$60k has a chance in Ffx County- they can build all the shopping centers and luxury homes as they want- but at the end of the day it is the service industry folks who make this place run and they too are deserving of affordable housing!!
So you want your barista, dry cleaner worker, grocery store checker, oil change guy/gal, daycare provider, Amazon delivery person, landscaper, all to GTFO of Fairfax county, the people who get to work BEFORE YOU DO to make sure you HAVE A GOOD DAY, just because they are "poor"?
Then who will be left to serve you if you are not willing to make your own coffee/clean your own clothes/bag your own groceries/change your own oil/watch your own kids/do your own shopping/cut your own grass if they cannot afford to commute from "Elsewhere"???
Are you forgetting even though an apartment farther out may be cheaper, but they have to deal with the cost of commuting going up (car note, insurance, more GAS more TIME more TOLLS) will take out from their already meager salary??? Oh then THEY have to pay for MORE daycare- because who will watch THEIR kids while they work???
Oh right, only RICH people should be allowed to have kids....SMH.
I say follow the money....as always.
-------------------------------------------------------
> If you spent as much time learning a skill and
> making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> would have a nice home by now.
(speaking for myself) I use the captcha because I am too lazy to think of a name to put in the "your name" box, I bet there are others, I know I am not the only one that does this!
Oh, and think of better insults.
Fact is- no one making <$60k has a chance in Ffx County- they can build all the shopping centers and luxury homes as they want- but at the end of the day it is the service industry folks who make this place run and they too are deserving of affordable housing!!
So you want your barista, dry cleaner worker, grocery store checker, oil change guy/gal, daycare provider, Amazon delivery person, landscaper, all to GTFO of Fairfax county, the people who get to work BEFORE YOU DO to make sure you HAVE A GOOD DAY, just because they are "poor"?
Then who will be left to serve you if you are not willing to make your own coffee/clean your own clothes/bag your own groceries/change your own oil/watch your own kids/do your own shopping/cut your own grass if they cannot afford to commute from "Elsewhere"???
Are you forgetting even though an apartment farther out may be cheaper, but they have to deal with the cost of commuting going up (car note, insurance, more GAS more TIME more TOLLS) will take out from their already meager salary??? Oh then THEY have to pay for MORE daycare- because who will watch THEIR kids while they work???
Oh right, only RICH people should be allowed to have kids....SMH.
I say follow the money....as always.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
its called renting a room
()
Date: November 23, 2016 12:56PM
Poor people can live in Fairfax, they can share an apartment or rent a room. You can rent a room for $500 a month.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
nn3HY
()
Date: November 23, 2016 01:15PM
typing a name just for you Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you spent as much time learning a skill and
> > making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> > would have a nice home by now.
>
>
> (speaking for myself) I use the captcha because I
> am too lazy to think of a name to put in the "your
> name" box, I bet there are others, I know I am not
> the only one that does this!
>
> Oh, and think of better insults.
>
> Fact is- no one making <$60k has a chance in Ffx
> County- they can build all the shopping centers
> and luxury homes as they want- but at the end of
> the day it is the service industry folks who make
> this place run and they too are deserving of
> affordable housing!!
>
> So you want your barista, dry cleaner worker,
> grocery store checker, oil change guy/gal, daycare
> provider, Amazon delivery person, landscaper, all
> to GTFO of Fairfax county, the people who get to
> work BEFORE YOU DO to make sure you HAVE A GOOD
> DAY, just because they are "poor"?
>
> Then who will be left to serve you if you are not
> willing to make your own coffee/clean your own
> clothes/bag your own groceries/change your own
> oil/watch your own kids/do your own shopping/cut
> your own grass if they cannot afford to commute
> from "Elsewhere"???
>
> Are you forgetting even though an apartment
> farther out may be cheaper, but they have to deal
> with the cost of commuting going up (car note,
> insurance, more GAS more TIME more TOLLS) will
> take out from their already meager salary??? Oh
> then THEY have to pay for MORE daycare- because
> who will watch THEIR kids while they work???
>
> Oh right, only RICH people should be allowed to
> have kids....SMH.
>
>
> I say follow the money....as always.
True true.
-------------------------------------------------------
> captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you spent as much time learning a skill and
> > making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> > would have a nice home by now.
>
>
> (speaking for myself) I use the captcha because I
> am too lazy to think of a name to put in the "your
> name" box, I bet there are others, I know I am not
> the only one that does this!
>
> Oh, and think of better insults.
>
> Fact is- no one making <$60k has a chance in Ffx
> County- they can build all the shopping centers
> and luxury homes as they want- but at the end of
> the day it is the service industry folks who make
> this place run and they too are deserving of
> affordable housing!!
>
> So you want your barista, dry cleaner worker,
> grocery store checker, oil change guy/gal, daycare
> provider, Amazon delivery person, landscaper, all
> to GTFO of Fairfax county, the people who get to
> work BEFORE YOU DO to make sure you HAVE A GOOD
> DAY, just because they are "poor"?
>
> Then who will be left to serve you if you are not
> willing to make your own coffee/clean your own
> clothes/bag your own groceries/change your own
> oil/watch your own kids/do your own shopping/cut
> your own grass if they cannot afford to commute
> from "Elsewhere"???
>
> Are you forgetting even though an apartment
> farther out may be cheaper, but they have to deal
> with the cost of commuting going up (car note,
> insurance, more GAS more TIME more TOLLS) will
> take out from their already meager salary??? Oh
> then THEY have to pay for MORE daycare- because
> who will watch THEIR kids while they work???
>
> Oh right, only RICH people should be allowed to
> have kids....SMH.
>
>
> I say follow the money....as always.
True true.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
YXLhD
()
Date: November 23, 2016 01:17PM
captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
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> If you spent as much time learning a skill and
> making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> would have a nice home by now.
Such arrogance coming from someone sucking on the government tit.
Go and fuck yourself you smug piece of shit.
-------------------------------------------------------
> If you spent as much time learning a skill and
> making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> would have a nice home by now.
Such arrogance coming from someone sucking on the government tit.
Go and fuck yourself you smug piece of shit.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Dr. Memory
()
Date: November 23, 2016 01:31PM
This is true of every high median income city and suburb, though, isn't it? There is zero probability of government intervention to create mass housing, barring World War III, or Great Depression II. That leaves the Republicans' beloved personal responsibility. Stop wasting time. Anyone can learn to manage money.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
captcha guy talking to himself
()
Date: November 23, 2016 01:44PM
YXLhD Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you spent as much time learning a skill and
> > making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> > would have a nice home by now.
>
> Such arrogance coming from someone sucking on the
> government tit.
> Go and fuck yourself you smug piece of shit.
Don't work for the government or anything related to it.
Here are some links to get you started on your self improvement journey.
Skills - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz3VKzVS6KU
Investing/Budgeting - https://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRamseyShow
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> captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you spent as much time learning a skill and
> > making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> > would have a nice home by now.
>
> Such arrogance coming from someone sucking on the
> government tit.
> Go and fuck yourself you smug piece of shit.
Don't work for the government or anything related to it.
Here are some links to get you started on your self improvement journey.
Skills - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz3VKzVS6KU
Investing/Budgeting - https://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRamseyShow
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
GNPPy
()
Date: November 23, 2016 02:29PM
Dr. Memory Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This is true of every high median income city and
> suburb, though, isn't it? There is zero
> probability of government intervention to create
> mass housing, barring World War III, or Great
> Depression II. That leaves the Republicans'
> beloved personal responsibility. Stop wasting
> time. Anyone can learn to manage money.
No was not always true.
Did you not bother to read the title of the thread?
-------------------------------------------------------
> This is true of every high median income city and
> suburb, though, isn't it? There is zero
> probability of government intervention to create
> mass housing, barring World War III, or Great
> Depression II. That leaves the Republicans'
> beloved personal responsibility. Stop wasting
> time. Anyone can learn to manage money.
No was not always true.
Did you not bother to read the title of the thread?
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
TFP3t
()
Date: November 23, 2016 02:31PM
captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> YXLhD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If you spent as much time learning a skill
> and
> > > making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> > > would have a nice home by now.
> >
> > Such arrogance coming from someone sucking on
> the
> > government tit.
> > Go and fuck yourself you smug piece of shit.
>
>
> Don't work for the government or anything related
> to it.
>
> Here are some links to get you started on your
> self improvement journey.
>
> Skills -
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz3VKzVS6KU
>
> Investing/Budgeting -
> https://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRamseyShow
Not talking to myself.
Different poster.
I played basketball for 5 years in Europe.
Well over 6 figures for each season I played.
Could have stayed longer but decided to move on.
-------------------------------------------------------
> YXLhD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If you spent as much time learning a skill
> and
> > > making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> > > would have a nice home by now.
> >
> > Such arrogance coming from someone sucking on
> the
> > government tit.
> > Go and fuck yourself you smug piece of shit.
>
>
> Don't work for the government or anything related
> to it.
>
> Here are some links to get you started on your
> self improvement journey.
>
> Skills -
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz3VKzVS6KU
>
> Investing/Budgeting -
> https://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRamseyShow
Not talking to myself.
Different poster.
I played basketball for 5 years in Europe.
Well over 6 figures for each season I played.
Could have stayed longer but decided to move on.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
hnNEM
()
Date: November 23, 2016 02:51PM
captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> YXLhD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If you spent as much time learning a skill
> and
> > > making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> > > would have a nice home by now.
> >
> > Such arrogance coming from someone sucking on
> the
> > government tit.
> > Go and fuck yourself you smug piece of shit.
>
>
> Don't work for the government or anything related
> to it.
>
> Here are some links to get you started on your
> self improvement journey.
>
> Skills -
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz3VKzVS6KU
>
> Investing/Budgeting -
> https://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRamseyShow
You are lying. If you are as successful as you claim, instead of being an arrogant piece of shit you would have compassion for working people including those at the very bottom such as janitors & dishwashers.
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> YXLhD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If you spent as much time learning a skill
> and
> > > making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> > > would have a nice home by now.
> >
> > Such arrogance coming from someone sucking on
> the
> > government tit.
> > Go and fuck yourself you smug piece of shit.
>
>
> Don't work for the government or anything related
> to it.
>
> Here are some links to get you started on your
> self improvement journey.
>
> Skills -
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz3VKzVS6KU
>
> Investing/Budgeting -
> https://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRamseyShow
You are lying. If you are as successful as you claim, instead of being an arrogant piece of shit you would have compassion for working people including those at the very bottom such as janitors & dishwashers.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
captcha guy talking to himself
()
Date: November 23, 2016 03:13PM
Still talking to yourself I see.
Basketball player in Europe?
Basketball player in Europe?
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
pmbMu
()
Date: November 23, 2016 04:39PM
captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
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> Still talking to yourself I see.
>
>
> Basketball player in Europe?
>
>
>
>
I am not talking to myself you idiot.
Yes.
Europe.
Where American players who cannot make an NBA roster go and play.
The money they pay over there is green too.
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> Still talking to yourself I see.
>
>
> Basketball player in Europe?
>
>
>
>
I am not talking to myself you idiot.
Yes.
Europe.
Where American players who cannot make an NBA roster go and play.
The money they pay over there is green too.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
cMH6h
()
Date: November 29, 2016 09:42AM
Green -- just like the mold that eats away so many right-wing brains. God, you people are stupid!
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
tyxFD
()
Date: November 29, 2016 10:57AM
Even if they DID create a new apartment complex of strictly low-income housing here in fairfax- the Illegal Hispanics and Muslims would find a way to take up all the apartments, leaving none for the low-income white or black person who was born here.
Look at ANY cheaper complex in Fairfax- and that is what you see. Wall to wall hispanics and muslims.
They also invade jobs in the leasing office, and advertise "se habla espanol" and "burka burka" so they can continue to funnel all their illegal friends in, charge them a bit more rent than the advertised (or even a small "finders fee" that goes right in the leasing agent's pocket) for the chance at a brand new apartment with their "off the books" income (no respectable management company would accept their fake paystubs and w-2's which is why you don't see populations of illegals at the nicer complexes), and of course they will live 10 to a 2 bedroom and it will be run downhill VERY quickly.
Of course, if a white person tries to sue the management company, they will quickly cry "discrimination" and they will back off, not willing to fight the legal battle that will ensue.
The ONLY way a white or black native person will have a decent living situation is to simply pay more and rent in the nicer communities, having roommates if necessary.
Look at ANY cheaper complex in Fairfax- and that is what you see. Wall to wall hispanics and muslims.
They also invade jobs in the leasing office, and advertise "se habla espanol" and "burka burka" so they can continue to funnel all their illegal friends in, charge them a bit more rent than the advertised (or even a small "finders fee" that goes right in the leasing agent's pocket) for the chance at a brand new apartment with their "off the books" income (no respectable management company would accept their fake paystubs and w-2's which is why you don't see populations of illegals at the nicer complexes), and of course they will live 10 to a 2 bedroom and it will be run downhill VERY quickly.
Of course, if a white person tries to sue the management company, they will quickly cry "discrimination" and they will back off, not willing to fight the legal battle that will ensue.
The ONLY way a white or black native person will have a decent living situation is to simply pay more and rent in the nicer communities, having roommates if necessary.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
feds aok
()
Date: November 29, 2016 11:36AM
Feds haven't gotten much of a raise in recent years so its hard to totally blame them on rising costs.
Fairfax requires a large number of housing units to be set aside for low income residents. If you get into that program and purchase a home, you can only sell it to other low income people at a much reduced cost.
Fairfax requires a large number of housing units to be set aside for low income residents. If you get into that program and purchase a home, you can only sell it to other low income people at a much reduced cost.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
3GTHW
()
Date: November 29, 2016 04:23PM
3GTHW
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
LvGK6
()
Date: November 30, 2016 06:43AM
Government workers are paid more than 20% less for the same level of work than you lard-ass lazy good-for-nothings in the private sector.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
GNLph
()
Date: November 30, 2016 10:20AM
Goobers can't do those darned fractions like 20%.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
DKT6J
()
Date: November 30, 2016 05:35PM
Government work is just too hard for most people.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
clean living
()
Date: April 29, 2017 08:12PM
nn3HY Wrote:
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> typing a name just for you Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If you spent as much time learning a skill
> and
> > > making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> > > would have a nice home by now.
> >
> >
> > (speaking for myself) I use the captcha because
> I
> > am too lazy to think of a name to put in the
> "your
> > name" box, I bet there are others, I know I am
> not
> > the only one that does this!
> >
> > Oh, and think of better insults.
> >
> > Fact is- no one making <$60k has a chance in
> Ffx
> > County- they can build all the shopping centers
> > and luxury homes as they want- but at the end
> of
> > the day it is the service industry folks who
> make
> > this place run and they too are deserving of
> > affordable housing!!
> >
> > So you want your barista, dry cleaner worker,
> > grocery store checker, oil change guy/gal,
> daycare
> > provider, Amazon delivery person, landscaper,
> all
> > to GTFO of Fairfax county, the people who get
> to
> > work BEFORE YOU DO to make sure you HAVE A GOOD
> > DAY, just because they are "poor"?
> >
> > Then who will be left to serve you if you are
> not
> > willing to make your own coffee/clean your own
> > clothes/bag your own groceries/change your own
> > oil/watch your own kids/do your own
> shopping/cut
> > your own grass if they cannot afford to commute
> > from "Elsewhere"???
> >
> > Are you forgetting even though an apartment
> > farther out may be cheaper, but they have to
> deal
> > with the cost of commuting going up (car note,
> > insurance, more GAS more TIME more TOLLS) will
> > take out from their already meager salary??? Oh
> > then THEY have to pay for MORE daycare- because
> > who will watch THEIR kids while they work???
> >
> > Oh right, only RICH people should be allowed to
> > have kids....SMH.
> >
> >
> > I say follow the money....as always.
>
> True true.
Still true in 2017.
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> typing a name just for you Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > captcha guy talking to himself Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If you spent as much time learning a skill
> and
> > > making a budget as you do posting on FFXU you
> > > would have a nice home by now.
> >
> >
> > (speaking for myself) I use the captcha because
> I
> > am too lazy to think of a name to put in the
> "your
> > name" box, I bet there are others, I know I am
> not
> > the only one that does this!
> >
> > Oh, and think of better insults.
> >
> > Fact is- no one making <$60k has a chance in
> Ffx
> > County- they can build all the shopping centers
> > and luxury homes as they want- but at the end
> of
> > the day it is the service industry folks who
> make
> > this place run and they too are deserving of
> > affordable housing!!
> >
> > So you want your barista, dry cleaner worker,
> > grocery store checker, oil change guy/gal,
> daycare
> > provider, Amazon delivery person, landscaper,
> all
> > to GTFO of Fairfax county, the people who get
> to
> > work BEFORE YOU DO to make sure you HAVE A GOOD
> > DAY, just because they are "poor"?
> >
> > Then who will be left to serve you if you are
> not
> > willing to make your own coffee/clean your own
> > clothes/bag your own groceries/change your own
> > oil/watch your own kids/do your own
> shopping/cut
> > your own grass if they cannot afford to commute
> > from "Elsewhere"???
> >
> > Are you forgetting even though an apartment
> > farther out may be cheaper, but they have to
> deal
> > with the cost of commuting going up (car note,
> > insurance, more GAS more TIME more TOLLS) will
> > take out from their already meager salary??? Oh
> > then THEY have to pay for MORE daycare- because
> > who will watch THEIR kids while they work???
> >
> > Oh right, only RICH people should be allowed to
> > have kids....SMH.
> >
> >
> > I say follow the money....as always.
>
> True true.
Still true in 2017.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
metalhead
()
Date: April 29, 2017 09:21PM
mnKF3 Wrote:
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> The rest of the country hates the DC area.
> Just look at this past election day as a prime
> example.
Very true indeed.
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> The rest of the country hates the DC area.
> Just look at this past election day as a prime
> example.
Very true indeed.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
It All Started
()
Date: April 29, 2017 09:33PM
When Women had to go to College..and let strangers raise the children..So Either You both work your asses off today..and still get by..or you move to The Septic Tank Hellhole..LOL
DAJAX
DAJAX
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
MEnh3
()
Date: April 30, 2017 03:13AM
DKT6J Wrote:
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> Government work is just too hard for most people.
lol
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> Government work is just too hard for most people.
lol
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
Robert lee
()
Date: April 30, 2017 06:14AM
Blame Dodd- Frank for artificially inflated home prices. That forced wages up which drives up the cost of everything else. When housing crashed due to the sub prime mortgages, wages frozen...
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
jhey
()
Date: April 30, 2017 02:57PM
Teachers/police/firefighters are probably making just as much as the government workers, these days.
Contractors make a little more, but not so much more to completely price out everyone else.
Contractors make a little more, but not so much more to completely price out everyone else.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
coldplay007
()
Date: April 30, 2017 04:53PM
Um. no. they cannot rent a room for $500. Maybe $600. And if you have kids forget it. I help the homeless, and nearly homeless search for housing every day. Most of them are not black. A lot of them are white, with drug issues or mental health problems. Teachers barely make it around here. If they are living in your neighborhood, then there are other circumstances. They are married=dual income, they bought the home 15 years ago. They had help from a relative with down payment, they had zero debt and no kids. Or they participated in a program that helped them qualify. Teacher salary starts at like $56K. So, maybe after working as a teacher for 5-10 years they are able to afford to truly make it in this area. None of what was mentioned on this thread resembles the real life situations that I see daily. There is no high percentage of any particular ethnic group that is worse than the other around here. If you think it's all muslim, or blacks, or whatever, you are very naive. There are people with graduate degrees in IT, law degrees, and many other fields, and something happens like medical illness or divorce, or domestic violence and they lose everything. It's a high percentage. It's not just a few. Many, but not all, are white American kids whose parents just dropped the ball. These kids have entitlement issues and have no idea what it means to work hard for something. Maybe their parents passed away, or they are on drugs, or maybe they are also very poor and can't even help themselves. Most don't even aspire to get out of poverty because they don't see it as an option, its like speaking a foreign language, it's not in their vocabulary. But yet they want to stay in Fairfax County. They refuse to move to a place they can actually afford, because they are getting free help here. They have no idea that most of us think this area is way overrated. They don't have the luxury of recognizing this overblown, overrated, overpriced way of life around here.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
jhey
()
Date: May 04, 2017 08:20PM
coldplay007 Wrote:
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> Teacher salary starts at like $56K.
GS-7 starting salary is $44K.
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> Teacher salary starts at like $56K.
GS-7 starting salary is $44K.
Re: Exactly when did government workers/government contractors ruin the cost of living for people in the area who are teachers, work in retail, restaurants, hospitality, policeman, fireman etc...?
Posted by:
XeYHb
()
Date: May 04, 2017 09:00PM
jhey Wrote:
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> coldplay007 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Teacher salary starts at like $56K.
>
> GS-7 starting salary is $44K.
Teacher wage stage stays the same.
GS goes up & up & up & up
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> coldplay007 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Teacher salary starts at like $56K.
>
> GS-7 starting salary is $44K.
Teacher wage stage stays the same.
GS goes up & up & up & up