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should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Pissed parent ()
Date: September 23, 2016 06:58PM

I have a first grade boy in FCPS. Yesterday I learned that the teacher kept the whole class inside for recess to finish a lesson because they were misbehaving. I find it hard to believe the entire class was misbehaving. Is this a common punishment? These kids get 20 minutes of recess in the afternoon. This is not enough. To keep them inside all day without recess seems like excessive punishment.
I am new to FCPS. This makes me angry, but I don't want to approach the teacher until I hear if this is a typical punishment.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Bitch Bitch Bitch ()
Date: September 23, 2016 07:04PM

Have you considered contacting the Principal of the school to have a (rational)discussion about the matter?

Or are you just another complaining asshole parent of some spoiled brat?

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Vyc39 ()
Date: September 23, 2016 07:29PM

Sounds like she is encouraging peer pressure or otherwise known as bullying. SJW's untie!

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: fcps insider ()
Date: September 23, 2016 08:16PM

Collective punishment is *specifically* mentioned as an unacceptable form of punishment in the FCPS policies and regulations, and the teacher will be officially reprimanded in writing for it.

If they're still in their probationary period, they will not be eligible to have their contract renewed. If they're on a continuing contract, they need to have no other reprimands for their next two evaluations, (evaluations happen every 3 years, so this could be up to 6 years) or their contract will not be renewed.

FCPS is not fucking around with this, and if you're not trolling, you can really fuck up a teacher's career by reporting it.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: BrianSchoeneman ()
Date: September 23, 2016 08:20PM

Pissed parent Wrote:
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> I have a first grade boy in FCPS. Yesterday I
> learned that the teacher kept the whole class
> inside for recess to finish a lesson because they
> were misbehaving. I find it hard to believe the
> entire class was misbehaving. Is this a common
> punishment? These kids get 20 minutes of recess in
> the afternoon. This is not enough. To keep them
> inside all day without recess seems like excessive
> punishment.
> I am new to FCPS. This makes me angry, but I don't
> want to approach the teacher until I hear if this
> is a typical punishment.


Do yourself a favor and let it go. It's one recess.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Glocks ()
Date: September 23, 2016 08:22PM

It's standard army practice, one fucks up they all pay. When the teacher is not looking the kids will fill their socks with soap and beat the little shit senseless.

It works

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Good Teacher ()
Date: September 23, 2016 08:41PM

fcps insider Wrote:
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> Collective punishment is *specifically* mentioned
> as an unacceptable form of punishment in the FCPS
> policies and regulations, and the teacher will be
> officially reprimanded in writing for it.
>
> If they're still in their probationary period,
> they will not be eligible to have their contract
> renewed. If they're on a continuing contract, they
> need to have no other reprimands for their next
> two evaluations, (evaluations happen every 3
> years, so this could be up to 6 years) or their
> contract will not be renewed.
>
> FCPS is not fucking around with this, and if
> you're not trolling, you can really fuck up a
> teacher's career by reporting it.

With parents like this, and the above person who left this post, it is no wonder why good teachers are hard to keep.

Just let he little bastards run wild is the FCPS Policy.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Xem3t ()
Date: September 23, 2016 08:47PM

our society is going to shit and creating little snowflake pussies

name ONE punishment that is acceptable - ONE!

I will wait

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Gggseff ()
Date: September 23, 2016 08:48PM

LOL you think fcps has ever given a fuck about recess? Consider yourself lucky that you kid even gets to go outside.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: September 23, 2016 10:36PM

Instead of getting a hardworking, stressed out teacher fired, consider asking your child what their behavior looked like. Was your child one of the students talking or fooling around? Why get caught up in the notion that students missed one recess and completely ignore the fact that first graders have major behavior problems that affect their learning. All teaching is is behavior management--very little time is actually spent learning.

Or, you could get the teacher fired and have a long line of substitutes babysit your child for the rest of the schoolyear.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Now let it go ()
Date: September 23, 2016 11:57PM

Op just let it go. Don't be the problem.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: truth hurts ()
Date: September 24, 2016 12:04AM

MORE !?!?!?
suck it up and home school...
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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: You Sick Fuck ()
Date: September 24, 2016 12:14AM

fcps insider Wrote:
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> Collective punishment is *specifically* mentioned
> as an unacceptable form of punishment in the FCPS
> policies and regulations, and the teacher will be
> officially reprimanded in writing for it.
>
> If they're still in their probationary period,
> they will not be eligible to have their contract
> renewed. If they're on a continuing contract, they
> need to have no other reprimands for their next
> two evaluations, (evaluations happen every 3
> years, so this could be up to 6 years) or their
> contract will not be renewed.
>
> FCPS is not fucking around with this, and if
> you're not trolling, you can really fuck up a
> teacher's career by reporting it.

You arrogant tool. You seem to take unusual delight at the prospect of ruining a young aspiring teacher's career. Who crushed your hopes and dreams and made you so bitter?

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: wowlol ()
Date: September 24, 2016 12:26AM

fcps insider you have no idea what you are talking about, not getting their contract renewed because of it...hahahahahh good one

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Stop Whining ()
Date: September 24, 2016 01:29AM

Your pathetic
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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: tbt ()
Date: September 24, 2016 05:57AM

Collective punishment is wrong. To use this so early in the year is indicative that the teacher lacks classroom management skills. Report it - not to "ruin" the teacher's career, but to get her intervention so that she will develop a repertoire of skills to manage the class without resorting to mass punishment. It is obvious she was frustrated and acted out of emotion and not reason. She will not be "fired" or her contract not be renewed, but she might be assigned a mentor who will give her strategies to cope with the class. First to third graders anticipate recess more than any lesson, no matter how engaging. They have to be able to enjoy a break from classroom routine. Recess is not a gift that can be given or taken away. This inquiry was not whining, but a reasonable call for suggestions. So stop bashing the mom, and give her and others who encounter such issues support.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Playground moniter ()
Date: September 24, 2016 06:04AM

About half of these kids nowadays don't want to go outside, they want to be on a computer of some kind. Some of them have to be carried outside, they are scared that a bug might land on them.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: 2344444441211 ()
Date: September 24, 2016 07:31AM

tbt Wrote:
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> Collective punishment is wrong. To use this so
> early in the year is indicative that the teacher
> lacks classroom management skills. Report it - not
> to "ruin" the teacher's career, but to get her
> intervention so that she will develop a repertoire
> of skills to manage the class without resorting to
> mass punishment. It is obvious she was frustrated
> and acted out of emotion and not reason. She will
> not be "fired" or her contract not be renewed, but
> she might be assigned a mentor who will give her
> strategies to cope with the class. First to third
> graders anticipate recess more than any lesson, no
> matter how engaging. They have to be able to enjoy
> a break from classroom routine. Recess is not a
> gift that can be given or taken away. This inquiry
> was not whining, but a reasonable call for
> suggestions. So stop bashing the mom, and give her
> and others who encounter such issues support.

Or maybe the whole class or almost the whole class really was misbehaving and having a rotten day and she needed to send a message. It's September and it sounds like the teacher is trying to get kids to follow routines and get work done in the assigned time.

People on here bitch all the time that FCPS is nothing but very expensive babysitting. Well it sounds like this is a teacher actually trying to do her job and get the kids to work.

To the OP, if you're going to go in and raise a big stink about this, let me ask you a couple questions. What kind of class do you want your child to be in? Do you want an orderly, well-managed class where the kids are on task and following directions and the teacher takes her job seriously? Cause if you do, I sure as hell wouldn't try to work against her getting that. There are more than a few teachers who have learned that you can get by just by making things cute and pretty, making the kids and parents happy, and doing the bare minimum of academics. Sounds like that's the kind of teacher you want.

To the poster above who suggested that a mentor be assigned: Really? Seriously? Maybe the kids really had been going off and at the start of the year she needed to send a message that she wouldn't tolerate such things? Seems reasonable to me. You sound like a specialist to me, I'm thinking maybe a reading teacher or a math specialist. You sit in your office all day reading books and when asked to help a student who is struggling you say, "I train teachers. I don't work with kids."

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: boredparent ()
Date: September 24, 2016 07:47AM

Pissed parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I have a first grade boy in FCPS. Yesterday I
> learned that the teacher kept the whole class
> inside for recess to finish a lesson because they
> were misbehaving. I find it hard to believe the
> entire class was misbehaving. Is this a common
> punishment? These kids get 20 minutes of recess in
> the afternoon. This is not enough. To keep them
> inside all day without recess seems like excessive
> punishment.
> I am new to FCPS. This makes me angry, but I don't
> want to approach the teacher until I hear if this
> is a typical punishment.

As a parent of FCPS kids - I find your attitude to be both appalling and repugnant. You are exactly the kind of parent that makes me wish I could afford to send my kids to private school. Why don't you do something constructive like controlling your kids and actually expecting them to behave in the classroom.

I would much rather my kid's teachers enforce some discipline in the classroom rather than allowing the un-parented spoiled brats to have carte blanche to disrupt my child's learning environment.

It was one lousy recess. Get over it.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Glocks ()
Date: September 24, 2016 09:31AM

Op, if your were any find of good parent your kids should be outside playing the moment they get back from school to dinner, then back outside until bed. So 20 mins recess I'm a concrete lot in reality means nothing.

Get your kids outside yourself.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: jhey ()
Date: September 24, 2016 10:56AM

Pissed parent Wrote:
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> I find it hard to believe the entire class was misbehaving.

I find it hard to believe that you don't believe this.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: truth hurts ()
Date: September 24, 2016 11:02AM

pc brainwashed yuppie scum are a pita wherever they settle....almost prefer illegals to these nosy entitled pricks

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Officer Johnny Law ()
Date: September 24, 2016 11:10AM

fcps insider Wrote:
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> Collective punishment is *specifically* mentioned
> as an unacceptable form of punishment in the FCPS
> policies and regulations, and the teacher will be
> officially reprimanded in writing for it.
>

If that is fcps policy then it should be reported immediately.

The teacher needs to know these are regulations, not suggestions.

If your child had a similar event at school they would not have any choice but to throw the book at them. What's good for the geese has to be good for the gander.

Welcome to the police state

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Another Teacher ()
Date: September 24, 2016 11:53AM

Has anyone contacted the teacher involved to get her side of what happened? Sometimes, a simple email or phone call can be very enlightening. Maybe the teacher cut 5 minutes off recess so that something important could be finished that was up against a deadline, or she extended a break time later in the day to compensate, or something like that. That still may not be ok in FCPS as per their rules, but getting the facts is the first step in resolving a disagreement.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why many parents believe that immediately going over a teacher's head to administration, counselors or department heads is a constructive way to approach an issue. Remember - your child is going to be in this class for the whole year. Why set up an adversarial situation before even checking with the teacher about what really happened?

If you feel like your concerns are valid after speaking with the teacher, it is perfectly ok to say that you understand this type of thing is not allowed in FCPS and that if it happens again, you will have to report it to administration. Then, if it is repeated, be sure to report it. (And yes, most local school systems will not renew a teacher who flaunts the official regulations; they could be sued.)

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Arthur Treacher ()
Date: September 24, 2016 12:17PM

I think I am going to go get a fish sandwich.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: kim jong un ()
Date: September 24, 2016 12:29PM

Another Teacher Wrote:
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> Has anyone contacted the teacher involved to get
> her side of what happened? Sometimes, a simple
> email or phone call can be very enlightening.
> Maybe the teacher cut 5 minutes off recess so that
> something important could be finished that was up
> against a deadline, or she extended a break time
> later in the day to compensate, or something like
> that. That still may not be ok in FCPS as per
> their rules, but getting the facts is the first
> step in resolving a disagreement.
>
> For the life of me, I cannot understand why many
> parents believe that immediately going over a
> teacher's head to administration, counselors or
> department heads is a constructive way to approach
> an issue. Remember - your child is going to be in
> this class for the whole year. Why set up an
> adversarial situation before even checking with
> the teacher about what really happened?
>
> If you feel like your concerns are valid after
> speaking with the teacher, it is perfectly ok to
> say that you understand this type of thing is not
> allowed in FCPS and that if it happens again, you
> will have to report it to administration. Then, if
> it is repeated, be sure to report it. (And yes,
> most local school systems will not renew a teacher
> who flaunts the official regulations; they could
> be sued.)

+1

Going nuclear should never be the first option.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Augiedog ()
Date: September 24, 2016 06:56PM

Whole crap. Maybe if there was some structure and displine at home your brat could go outside.

Get over it, you let your kid run wild all summer then expect the teachers to civilize the brats.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: usta ()
Date: September 24, 2016 11:31PM

I recently started going to mass again. My church has a K-8 school attached to it.

Apparently, on Friday mornings, the entire student body walks over to attend mass. Yesterday, I watched probably 300 kids file into church and take their seats in the pews. Except for their footsteps, there was NOT A SOUND! No talking, horseplay, nothing. There was even a significant number of black and Hispanic kids in the group, who were behaving the same as the white kids. I was amazed.

I used to drive a school bus, so I'm very familiar with FCPS kids of the same age group. If these were 300 FCPS kids coming to church, they would have been screaming and yelling, climbing over the backs of the pews, slamming the kneelers, some would hitting other kids, and who knows what all else.

I wonder what the parochial schools know that FCPS doesn't?

Also, during mass there are a couple of readings of Bible passages that the priest or deacon usually reads, but at the student mass, the kids read them. And they read them perfectly. No stammering, tripping over words, perfect diction. They actually read better than some adults, and they're only 9 or 10 years old!

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: just saying ()
Date: September 25, 2016 03:48AM

So a first grader comes home and tells a story of how the big bad teacher made them miss recess because the whole class was bad. Your first reaction is to suggest that the teacher should be reprimanded or fired? First of all, you don't really know what happened. The child in question could be totally mistaken about what really occurred. Secondly, the judgment of a 6 year old should not be the basis of pulling out the fangs right off the bat and attacking the integrity of a professional in their job, one that is trying to educate your child. It shows remarkably poor judgement that you wouldn't take a moment to talk with the teach first to find out what happened, and not make a snap judgement looking for a pound of flesh over such a minor"transgression". How dare someone deny your precious child something so important as recess. It's the main purpose of first grade after all. You're enabling the child in a negative way, and showing judgement on par with that of a 6 year old. Not to mention the unfair way you're treating the teacher. It would be prudent to think before you react. Precious will survive missing 20 minutes of play time. Your behavior after the fact may be more detrimental to your child's long term social development by far. And society will have to deal with it in the long run.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: But but but...... ()
Date: September 25, 2016 09:20AM

Officer Johnny Law Wrote:
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> fcps insider Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Collective punishment is *specifically*
> mentioned
> > as an unacceptable form of punishment in the
> FCPS
> > policies and regulations, and the teacher will
> be
> > officially reprimanded in writing for it.
> >
>
> If that is fcps policy then it should be reported
> immediately.
>
> The teacher needs to know these are regulations,
> not suggestions.
>
> If your child had a similar event at school they
> would not have any choice but to throw the book at
> them. What's good for the geese has to be good for
> the gander.
>
> Welcome to the police state

Regulations ARE just suggestions. They are generally ignored.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: If in our house ()
Date: September 25, 2016 09:56AM

If this was our house and my first grade son...

How was school today?
No recess. Some of the kids were bad so we stayed in.
What did you do instead?
Finished what we missed because they were acting up.
Sounds like a good solution to me.
Yeah, I guess.
Do you think they learned to try to be better next time?
I hope so.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: More likely this would be said ()
Date: September 25, 2016 10:11AM

Be real.

If this was our house and my first grade son...

How was school today?
No recess. Some of the kids were bad so we stayed in.
What did you do instead?
Finished what we missed because they were acting up.
Sounds like a good solution to me.
Yeah, I guess.
Do you think they learned to try to be better next time?
No way. It's always those kids who can't speak English very well.
I understand.
Why can't they just go back to their own country?
It's complicated.
Why?
Because we need them here to help elect Democrats.
Is that good?
Not really. Doesn't help their country and is hurting ours, like you saw today.
Yeah, teacher spends a lot of time with them, so we just read on our own.
Be thankful that you can read. Some children can't read in first grade.
I guess. Can't President Obama do something about it?
Sigh.

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Re: should the teacher be fired or at least suspended ?
Posted by: Makes Me Sick ()
Date: September 25, 2016 10:38AM

Parents like OP are the reason nobody wants to teach anymore. I can't stand these entitled fuckheads who think their brats are perfect and can do no wrong. Being a parent myself I deal with cunts like OP who are the Mothers of my Kids friends. Ugh, I can't stand women like OP!

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