I guess I'm not getting this "cops are shooting unarmed black men" thing.

Yes, black men are being shot, as are white and Hispanic men (and a few women). But the common thread in all these cases--as far as I'm aware--is that every single victim of a shooting by cops either involved fighting the cops (resisting arrest), not obeying clear and repeated commands by the cops, running from the cops, presenting a danger to the cops, displaying a gun to the cops, or otherwise not complying with lawful behavior in the presence of the cops.

In other words, has a single one ever been shot who was completely obedient to all lawful commands by the cop? I can't think of one. Most all were defying repeated commands. Even Eric Gardner, while he was questioned by cops over a minor matter (selling cigarettes), when they went to arrest him, he refused to place his hands behind his back and they had to get rough. Yes, too rough--he died. But he was not cooperating in the first place. It was entirely avoidable.

So running from the cops is a death sentence?

And whites who don't obey tend not to get killed, ass beating yes, but not killed

So i guess yes to your question but if your post makes you feel better you need to think a little deeper

It's contrived bullshit.

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Do you better now Wrote:
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> So running from the cops is a death sentence?
>
> And whites who don't obey tend not to get killed,
> ass beating yes, but not killed
>
> So i guess yes to your question but if your post
> makes you feel better you need to think a little
> deeper

I don't have--nor do you, I suspect--any evidence that whites who don't cooperate fare any better than blacks. If a white suspect reaches into his pocket when told to keep his hands visible, he's going to get a nasty response--as anyone would.

As for fleeing, the case can be made that if the suspect is already a known danger or has already assaulted a cop, they may be risking death by running. Depends on policy.

So in most cases I completely agree with this sentiment. In almost all cases, if the "victim" had simply complied with the law, no one would have been hurt. The issues have often been exhasberated by simple lies from witnesses (Dorian Johnson/Michael brown case in point...basically what started the BLM movement).

Unfortunately, there are many exceptions. For the recent events, the Tulsa shooting concerns me as does that of Philando Castille. However, for every time the potential exception is a black victim, I can think of plenty of examples where the victim is white. Here I Fairfax, that would include Sal Calusi, Aaron Brown, David Masters, etc. Unfortunately, the most famous case, that of John Geer, I'd sooner put into the case of non-compliance, but again, very questionable and very white.

That's just locally, there are a ton of examples and a Harvard study that support this has nothing to do with race. It is a problem, that's for sure. However, you don't see whites tearing up their own neighborhoods and starting riots and more violence over these cases. Idk, maybe they should but I don't see how it's productive but then again, maybe they should be taking to the streets too. But blacks certainly rise to the occasion for good or bad. But it seems they do so in a way that hurts their cause. The "no justice, no peace" chant simply makes it such that police are even more afraid/uncertain how to handle these situations.

Police have a terribly difficult job and the many vigilante cases of violence against police definitely do not help the matter. Nor does the fact that the riots resulted in more black on black homicide than the police on black shooting deaths.

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For fuck sake you dumb ass.......Aaron Brown was not shot in Fairfax County. He was not shot by Fairfax County Police.

Who the fuck was Aaron Brown?

Do you better now Wrote:
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> So running from the cops is a death sentence?
>
> And whites who don't obey tend not to get killed,
> ass beating yes, but not killed
>
> So i guess yes to your question but if your post
> makes you feel better you need to think a little
> deeper
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HA HA HA HA HA
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Fuck the police, fuck the police. And anyone that supports those faggot mother fuckers? Fuck you, too. Stupid ass bitches. I hope you stub your toe. Cut funding for police!

Excessive use of force and pretty much repercussions seem to be the reason people are getting mad.

These are all cases of suicide-by-cop. No sympathy for the thugs whatsoever. Glad everyone of them got what they had coming.

Nwaspokeman Wrote:
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> Fuck the police, fuck the police. And anyone
> that supports those faggot mother fuckers? Fuck
> you, too. Stupid ass bitches. I hope you stub your
> toe. Cut funding for police!


They will catch your nigger ass soon enough.

Nwaspokeman Wrote:
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> Fuck the police, fuck the police. And anyone
> that supports those faggot mother fuckers? Fuck
> you, too. Stupid ass bitches. I hope you stub your
> toe. Cut funding for police!

Yeah you'd like that. no police = less chance of getting caught = more looting = more deaths


if this country sucks so bad for you African Americans GET THE FUCK OUT.

They want the privilege of behaving in the entire country the way they behave in their communities. No respect for authority, no respect for women, no respect for their neighbors, and no respect for themselves. And in true liberal fashion, the Democrats will blame anyone who refuses to allow this in places that we live. For years I've watched as liberals destroyed inner city African American neighborhoods with a permissive approach and a self depreciating policy of minimal debilitating government dependency by handing out money with no responsibility for earning it. If it doesn't work, expand it. If it works badly, make it bigger, spend more money, and employ those who will also now make a living from the misery of flawed policies. And then they insist that anyone looking for better solutions are racists.

the way it is Wrote:
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> They want the privilege of behaving in the entire
> country the way they behave in their communities.
> No respect for authority, no respect for women, no
> respect for their neighbors, and no respect for
> themselves. And in true liberal fashion, the
> Democrats will blame anyone who refuses to allow
> this in places that we live. For years I've
> watched as liberals destroyed inner city African
> American neighborhoods with a permissive approach
> and a self depreciating policy of minimal
> debilitating government dependency by handing out
> money with no responsibility for earning it. If it
> doesn't work, expand it. If it works badly, make
> it bigger, spend more money, and employ those who
> will also now make a living from the misery of
> flawed policies. And then they insist that anyone
> looking for better solutions are racists.


Well said. And I have to say reading this I couldn't help but think that this describes what is happening in Fairfax right now.

Checkout Lane 7 girl Wrote:
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> the way it is Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They want the privilege of behaving in the
> entire
> > country the way they behave in their
> communities.
> > No respect for authority, no respect for women,
> no
> > respect for their neighbors, and no respect for
> > themselves. And in true liberal fashion, the
> > Democrats will blame anyone who refuses to
> allow
> > this in places that we live. For years I've
> > watched as liberals destroyed inner city
> African
> > American neighborhoods with a permissive
> approach
> > and a self depreciating policy of minimal
> > debilitating government dependency by handing
> out
> > money with no responsibility for earning it. If
> it
> > doesn't work, expand it. If it works badly,
> make
> > it bigger, spend more money, and employ those
> who
> > will also now make a living from the misery of
> > flawed policies. And then they insist that
> anyone
> > looking for better solutions are racists.
>
>
> Well said. And I have to say reading this I
> couldn't help but think that this describes what
> is happening in Fairfax right now.


But why are so many people blind to the fact?!

Its not blindness. It doesn't fit the narrative the left is trying to sell so they make it up. Hands up. Don't shoot.

How about this one from South Carolina?

http://kdvr.com/2014/09/25/dash-cam-captures-south-carolina-trooper-shooting-unarmed-man-during-traffic-stop/

You pig loving racist mother fuckers. Fuck the criminals with badges and that whore mother that birthed a retard stupid enough to support your own oppressors. Fight the power! Disband the police and jail them! But let them keep their badges

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> You pig loving racist mother fuckers. Fuck the
> criminals with badges and that whore mother that
> birthed a retard stupid enough to support your own
> oppressors. Fight the power! Disband the police
> and jail them! But let them keep their badges
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To blacks, all cops are white. Even the black ones are white (Uncle Toms). People just don't get it. Blacks want to be lawless criminals without any repercussions. That's why they hate law and order. That's why they want to kill cops. Cops get in the way of them living their despicable criminal lives.


In short, they were never meant to live in civilization.

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> Do you better now Wrote:
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> > So running from the cops is a death sentence?
> >
> > And whites who don't obey tend not to get
> killed,
> > ass beating yes, but not killed
> >
> > So i guess yes to your question but if your
> post
> > makes you feel better you need to think a
> little
> > deeper


Complete made up stats
The source is a fake

Keep on tarding tards

So all liberals are BLM apologists and all conservatives hate blacks... We really do paint ourselves with the broadest brushes we can find in fairfax county.

Excessive force is a thing. These men and women do between 60 and 80 hours of firearms training, which anyone who's served in the military can say is a bit of a joke. 8 hours in deescalation and dealing with the mentally ill... so on top of not being able to hit the broad side of the barn these people in large can't handle a socially unstable person, and are just waiting for anyone to defy them.

Make all the lawful orders you wan't if someone poses no threat you shouldn't be fucking shooting them. When your three year old doesn't eat his peas do you blow his fucking brains out all over the high chair? Ego driven cops can't stand the word no and have a gun and basically immunity to prosecution.

And all us good god fearing white folk love and obey the police and would never question the man with the badge who's serving and protecting fairfax by shooting speed traps all day generating revenue for the politicians you all love to complain about so much...

the way it is Wrote:
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> They want the privilege of behaving in the entire
> country the way they behave in their communities.
> No respect for authority, no respect for women, no
> respect for their neighbors, and no respect for
> themselves. And in true liberal fashion, the
> Democrats will blame anyone who refuses to allow
> this in places that we live. For years I've
> watched as liberals destroyed inner city African
> American neighborhoods with a permissive approach
> and a self depreciating policy of minimal
> debilitating government dependency by handing out
> money with no responsibility for earning it. If it
> doesn't work, expand it. If it works badly, make
> it bigger, spend more money, and employ those who
> will also now make a living from the misery of
> flawed policies. And then they insist that anyone
> looking for better solutions are racists.


That sounds right... come to think of if Every black person I ever met was simultaneously playing loud music in a residential neighborhood while screaming fuck the police, and beating a woman (even the women) while doing drugs and killing another black person...

Now that I really ponder it, I don't think I've ever heard of a white person doing a single one of those things in the history of white whiteness certainly not any church going southern boys.

In summation...

Fucking Liberals, Am I right or am I right?

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> Make all the lawful orders you wan't if someone
> poses no threat you shouldn't be fucking shooting
> them.

You should spend a few weeks doing what we do, because clearly you have no clue. You are the problem. I could post video after video of suspects "failing to comply" by reaching in their vehicles/pockets and cops nervously pointing firearms at them waiting to see what comes out. In the fractions of a second that it becomes known what they fetched - because you see the flash of the muzzle - you've been shot. You should spend a few weeks making traffic stops alone at 3am on a carload of nogs with all of them reaching all over the fucking car.

> When your three year old doesn't eat his
> peas do you blow his fucking brains out all over
> the high chair?

Excellent liberal argument, and so relevant.

> Ego driven cops can't stand the
> word no and have a gun and basically immunity to
> prosecution.

It's not ego, champ. It's the strong desire to go home to your family when your job is done for the day. At your job, how UNLIKELY is it that you won't get to ever see your family again and your children will grow up fatherless if your day doesn't go well?

https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/746590148812216/

HowAboutThisOne Wrote:
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> How about this one from South Carolina?
>
> http://kdvr.com/2014/09/25/dash-cam-captures-south
> -carolina-trooper-shooting-unarmed-man-during-traf
> fic-stop/


https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/746590148812216/

The primary job that police have is to get home alive at the end of the day. A secondary one would be to try to keep yhe rest of us from assaulting, harming, hurting, and killing each other. Most blacks murdered are killed by other blacks. Over 93% in fact. If BLM wants to make a real difference, and if they truly believe the name they choose to go by, then they should focus more on policing themselves then attacking the police. They refuse to understand that the police could be their biggest asset towards this goal. The police are just in the way of gaining power using violence, making accusations of racism, and destroying anything in the path of getting what they want. I seriously doubt that they even know what that is. The police have my support. BLM and the liberals that support their misguided agenda get my disdain. As for the shootings, we have systems in place to desl with police who behave inappropriately. We need to let them do the job they are paid to do. Without the police, there is no law. Without the law, I can garrentee that mobs will not be as restrained as the police have been in these orchestrated riots thst the left would have us see as protest. They are domestic acts of terrorism plane and simple.

The blacks didn't like the fire hoses that were used for crowd control, so the use of deadly force is all that is left.

u don't get it. we at blm don't wanna fix nothin. u think we give a shit bout niggers killin niggers? haha! we r just angling 4 mo freebies and handouts. dumbass nodick white liberals!

John Geer was within the law.
He stood well within his own property and spoke to the officers on-scene.
John Geer even had his hands up, which video and every officer on-scene admits.
No officer claimed they saw him break any law at any time. No warrant for search or arrest was issued, so the police had no right or responsibility to compel him to leave his property. That order was not enforceable therefore the shooting was unwarranted, thus the felony conviction for Officer Torres.
Now, the other officers on-scene who allowed Geer to bleed out like an animal with no aid for an hour until a tank showed up ... they suffered no sanction.
Enjoy your day and don't call the cops unless someone needs to get shot.

You want all people regardless of color to be judged as individuals. In the next sentence you want all cops to be judged by the actions of a very few incidents. If someone breaks the law, they should be held accountable. This applies doublely so for law enforcement. But the biggest problem with your position is that you take thugs who assault society and defend them when they attack the police, and the police defend themselves. You then try to mix in an innocent victim of police brutality. It weakens your position and destroys your credibility. Then instead of protesting, you riot, loot, and gurt and kill people. You admire MLK so much? I don't recall him or his movement using these tactics. That is why he was successful and why you will fail. You have become the political pawns of George Soros. His money, your blood. That's fine with me. But taking innocent lives and the lives of good officers is not. We will not tolerate it any more.