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4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Gross Savings
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Date: August 28, 2016 08:54AM
The meals tax means 4% on everyone who eats out in Fairfax, which will allow the county to lower my property tax, plus this covers the FCPS deficit. So I pay less and my kids benefit more. Sounds like one heck of a winning plan to me.
"For the purpose of reducing dependence on real estate taxes, shall the Board of Supervisors of Fairfax County, Virginia, be authorized to levy a tax on prepared food and beverages, otherwise known as a meals tax, as allowed by Virginia Code § 58.1-3833, at a rate not to exceed four percent (4%) of the amount charged for prepared food and beverages (which, based upon state law, is applicable only to sales outside of the town of Clifton, and towns of Herndon and Vienna that have already implemented a meals tax)? The revenues generated shall be dedicated to the following purposes:
1: 70 percent of the net revenues to Fairfax County Public Schools.
2: 30 percent of the net revenues to County services, capital improvements and property tax relief."
"For the purpose of reducing dependence on real estate taxes, shall the Board of Supervisors of Fairfax County, Virginia, be authorized to levy a tax on prepared food and beverages, otherwise known as a meals tax, as allowed by Virginia Code § 58.1-3833, at a rate not to exceed four percent (4%) of the amount charged for prepared food and beverages (which, based upon state law, is applicable only to sales outside of the town of Clifton, and towns of Herndon and Vienna that have already implemented a meals tax)? The revenues generated shall be dedicated to the following purposes:
1: 70 percent of the net revenues to Fairfax County Public Schools.
2: 30 percent of the net revenues to County services, capital improvements and property tax relief."
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Why not
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Date: August 28, 2016 08:56AM
Trim some of the school budgets?
Maybe all the illegals should move their families back home where they can work honestly and pay taxes.
Maybe all the illegals should move their families back home where they can work honestly and pay taxes.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
nowayjose
()
Date: August 28, 2016 08:58AM
Gross Savings Wrote:
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> The meals tax means 4% on everyone who eats out in
> Fairfax, which will allow the county to lower my
> property tax, plus this covers the FCPS deficit.
> So I pay less and my kids benefit more. Sounds
> like one heck of a winning plan to me.
>
>
> "For the purpose of reducing dependence on real
> estate taxes, shall the Board of Supervisors of
> Fairfax County, Virginia, be authorized to levy a
> tax on prepared food and beverages, otherwise
> known as a meals tax, as allowed by Virginia Code
> § 58.1-3833, at a rate not to exceed four percent
> (4%) of the amount charged for prepared food and
> beverages (which, based upon state law, is
> applicable only to sales outside of the town of
> Clifton, and towns of Herndon and Vienna that have
> already implemented a meals tax)? The revenues
> generated shall be dedicated to the following
> purposes:
> 1: 70 percent of the net revenues to Fairfax
> County Public Schools.
> 2: 30 percent of the net revenues to County
> services, capital improvements and property tax
> relief."
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> The meals tax means 4% on everyone who eats out in
> Fairfax, which will allow the county to lower my
> property tax, plus this covers the FCPS deficit.
> So I pay less and my kids benefit more. Sounds
> like one heck of a winning plan to me.
>
>
> "For the purpose of reducing dependence on real
> estate taxes, shall the Board of Supervisors of
> Fairfax County, Virginia, be authorized to levy a
> tax on prepared food and beverages, otherwise
> known as a meals tax, as allowed by Virginia Code
> § 58.1-3833, at a rate not to exceed four percent
> (4%) of the amount charged for prepared food and
> beverages (which, based upon state law, is
> applicable only to sales outside of the town of
> Clifton, and towns of Herndon and Vienna that have
> already implemented a meals tax)? The revenues
> generated shall be dedicated to the following
> purposes:
> 1: 70 percent of the net revenues to Fairfax
> County Public Schools.
> 2: 30 percent of the net revenues to County
> services, capital improvements and property tax
> relief."
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
3uLE9
()
Date: August 28, 2016 08:58AM
the question was should be asking is why is there such a budget shortfall now when it comes to schools? i for one do not believe this will lower my property taxes either. sounds like a spending and inefficiency issue, solve it some other way before you come to me with your hand out.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Joeas
()
Date: August 28, 2016 09:00AM
Please stop spamming us with your lame meal tax rhetoric. The bottom line is FCPS doesn't buxdget nor negotiate well and throwing money at them won't Solve their deficit problem.
NO to frivolous taxes!!
NO to frivolous taxes!!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: August 28, 2016 09:53AM
Gross Savings Wrote:
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> The meals tax means 4% on everyone who eats out in
> Fairfax,
WRONG. It means 4% on all restaurant sales except for certain sales at bars, whether the person eats at the premises of the restaurant or takes the food elsewhere to eat. In other words all of those carry out meals busy people pick up on their way home are included. It also includes significant sales from grocery and convenience stores. Even if you are buying it for ingredients the salad bar sale counts. The same may also be true of small snack purchases and single serving cans or bottles, the party platters you pick up and catered food. In short if it is being sold in a form that it can be immediately consumed, there is a good chance the tax applies to this sale.
Let's also remember that this is 4% on top of the 6% sales tax that is already imposed on the sales of food at restaurants or the 2.5% sales tax on food sold at grocery stores. It is also in addition to the BPOL gross receipts tax the businesses already pay on those sales.
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> The meals tax means 4% on everyone who eats out in
> Fairfax,
WRONG. It means 4% on all restaurant sales except for certain sales at bars, whether the person eats at the premises of the restaurant or takes the food elsewhere to eat. In other words all of those carry out meals busy people pick up on their way home are included. It also includes significant sales from grocery and convenience stores. Even if you are buying it for ingredients the salad bar sale counts. The same may also be true of small snack purchases and single serving cans or bottles, the party platters you pick up and catered food. In short if it is being sold in a form that it can be immediately consumed, there is a good chance the tax applies to this sale.
Let's also remember that this is 4% on top of the 6% sales tax that is already imposed on the sales of food at restaurants or the 2.5% sales tax on food sold at grocery stores. It is also in addition to the BPOL gross receipts tax the businesses already pay on those sales.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
BS meter
()
Date: August 28, 2016 10:13AM
Like they are going to lower property rotates if this gets passed.....RIGHT.
Like it will prevent raising property taxes in the future. RIGHT.
Like it will prevent raising property taxes in the future. RIGHT.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
libs hate America.
()
Date: August 28, 2016 10:15AM
Only people who vote democrat should be taxed. Fuck those assholes.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Sorry guys
()
Date: August 28, 2016 10:16AM
I'm for the meals tax.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
FruppiesBuddy
()
Date: August 28, 2016 10:31AM
Sorry guys Wrote:
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> I'm for the meals tax.
You're stupid.
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> I'm for the meals tax.
You're stupid.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Me too
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:02AM
I'd rather pay a tiny bit more when I go out to eat then have larger increases on my property tax. Count me in on the meals tax!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Fuck libs
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:09AM
Me too Wrote:
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> I'd rather pay a tiny bit more when I go out to
> eat then have larger increases on my property tax.
> Count me in on the meals tax!
How about standing up for your rights and tell the anti American liberal politicians to fuck off and quit giving free shit to illegals? Tell them to enforce the laws and send those cock roaches back home.
Why do fire fighters make $150k a year?
Tell them to reduce spending.
Vote democrats out.
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> I'd rather pay a tiny bit more when I go out to
> eat then have larger increases on my property tax.
> Count me in on the meals tax!
How about standing up for your rights and tell the anti American liberal politicians to fuck off and quit giving free shit to illegals? Tell them to enforce the laws and send those cock roaches back home.
Why do fire fighters make $150k a year?
Tell them to reduce spending.
Vote democrats out.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Big money
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:13AM
People won't tip as much which will fuck over the college students waiting tables. Typical liberal policies that stifle progress, growth and wealth. First they increase college tuitions and loan rates to keep students in debt for 40 years now they want to destroy their income.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
vote NO on the meals tax
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:17AM
Nowhere, anywhere, is there a guarantee that passage of the meals tax will lower property taxes. A far more likely scenario is that if the meals tax is enacted, it will not raise enough money to satisfy the schools and property taxes will go up anyway.
FCPS wastes money. All too well documented are cases such as the $9,000/day music and neuroscience consultant, the $10,000/hour commencement speech, the $80,000/month FCPS spends on travel and all of the perks (retirement, housing allowance, car, phone, etc.) that they give Karen Garza.
FCPS needs to cut spending. If this means certain "popular" programs have to go, then they go. The mission of FCPS is to serve the student community, whatever it may be.
Vote no on the meals tax on November 8.
FCPS wastes money. All too well documented are cases such as the $9,000/day music and neuroscience consultant, the $10,000/hour commencement speech, the $80,000/month FCPS spends on travel and all of the perks (retirement, housing allowance, car, phone, etc.) that they give Karen Garza.
FCPS needs to cut spending. If this means certain "popular" programs have to go, then they go. The mission of FCPS is to serve the student community, whatever it may be.
Vote no on the meals tax on November 8.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Nah
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:23AM
The only places that'll possibly lose money with occasional diners will be the restaurants that already charge significantly higher than their price points (e.g. GAR, Clydes, etc.), but they'll make it up on the back end with business meals, out-of-town visitors, etc. Places that are reasonably priced and have a large regular base will probably see no change, and I'll bet the tips will actually be higher because 1. Regulars tip higher anyways and 2. People usually tip on the total check, including tax.
There's a lot of scare tactics going on.
There's a lot of scare tactics going on.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
trumptardz
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:25AM
Sounds like all those college students working in Fairfax City have been getting fucked over, who knew.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Math doesn't work
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:29AM
Me too Wrote:
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> I'd rather pay a tiny bit more when I go out to
> eat then have larger increases on my property tax.
> Count me in on the meals tax!
Yeah. I'd rather pay more in taxes if it prevents taxes going up! That makes so much sense!!
If like to sell you a coupon for 50 cents off paper towels. Yours for just 50 cents!
Dumb fuck.
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> I'd rather pay a tiny bit more when I go out to
> eat then have larger increases on my property tax.
> Count me in on the meals tax!
Yeah. I'd rather pay more in taxes if it prevents taxes going up! That makes so much sense!!
If like to sell you a coupon for 50 cents off paper towels. Yours for just 50 cents!
Dumb fuck.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Logic works.
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:33AM
Math doesn't work Wrote:
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> Me too Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'd rather pay a tiny bit more when I go out to
> > eat then have larger increases on my property
> tax.
> > Count me in on the meals tax!
>
>
> Yeah. I'd rather pay more in taxes if it prevents
> taxes going up! That makes so much sense!!
>
> If like to sell you a coupon for 50 cents off
> paper towels. Yours for just 50 cents!
>
> Dumb fuck.
If I ate out for every single meal, then the above argument would be valid.
However, I don't.
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> Me too Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'd rather pay a tiny bit more when I go out to
> > eat then have larger increases on my property
> tax.
> > Count me in on the meals tax!
>
>
> Yeah. I'd rather pay more in taxes if it prevents
> taxes going up! That makes so much sense!!
>
> If like to sell you a coupon for 50 cents off
> paper towels. Yours for just 50 cents!
>
> Dumb fuck.
If I ate out for every single meal, then the above argument would be valid.
However, I don't.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Fuck Bulova
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:36AM
If u people really think they're gonna lower your property taxes your fucking stupid. They will find another place to waste your tax money. And if the meals tax doesn't pass they will try another bullshit tax like bag tax, or a tax if u want to fuck your wife. The fact of the matter is Fairfax isn't some dream destination where tourists flock to. This meals tax will be paid by the residents of Fairfax and they wont lower our property taxes.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Fairfax Tourist Attractions
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:39AM
Can anyone list them? What's here that's worth seeing?
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Attach a File ....
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:50AM
Gross Savings Wrote:
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> The meals tax means 4% on everyone who eats out in
> Fairfax, a) which will allow the county to lower my
> property tax, b) plus this covers the FCPS deficit.
Both assertions are of course completely false and only a neophyte would believe such propaganda.
Attachments:
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> The meals tax means 4% on everyone who eats out in
> Fairfax, a) which will allow the county to lower my
> property tax, b) plus this covers the FCPS deficit.
Both assertions are of course completely false and only a neophyte would believe such propaganda.
Attachments:
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Big D
()
Date: August 28, 2016 01:28PM
Attach a File .... Wrote:
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> Gross Savings Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The meals tax means 4% on everyone who eats out
> in
> > Fairfax, a) which will allow the county to lower
> my
> > property tax, b) plus this covers the FCPS
> deficit.
>
> Both assertions are of course completely false and
> only a neophyte would believe such propaganda.
+10,000 Neither of these things will happen. Vouchers to save the schools and contracting out (and other measures) to save the County.
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> Gross Savings Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The meals tax means 4% on everyone who eats out
> in
> > Fairfax, a) which will allow the county to lower
> my
> > property tax, b) plus this covers the FCPS
> deficit.
>
> Both assertions are of course completely false and
> only a neophyte would believe such propaganda.
+10,000 Neither of these things will happen. Vouchers to save the schools and contracting out (and other measures) to save the County.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
jose de el salvador
()
Date: August 28, 2016 01:46PM
Fairfax Tourist Attractions Wrote:
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> Can anyone list them? What's here that's worth
> seeing?
I walk 5,000 miles so I can see the 7-11 of fairfax county
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> Can anyone list them? What's here that's worth
> seeing?
I walk 5,000 miles so I can see the 7-11 of fairfax county
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
mark j
()
Date: August 28, 2016 07:22PM
I'm voting NO and won't change my mind.
I don't give a crap about the school system...let it fail and let the illegals take over
I don't give a crap about the school system...let it fail and let the illegals take over
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Si se Puede
()
Date: August 28, 2016 09:25PM
I'm voting yes, this is a luxury tax, worth it for the kids.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
YcpjE
()
Date: August 28, 2016 09:48PM
Si se Puede Wrote:
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> I'm voting yes, this is a luxury tax, worth it for
> the kids.
A. It's not really a luxury since it's any prepared food even a chili dog at 7-11.
B. It won't go to the kids. +75% will go to employee salaries and benefits.
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> I'm voting yes, this is a luxury tax, worth it for
> the kids.
A. It's not really a luxury since it's any prepared food even a chili dog at 7-11.
B. It won't go to the kids. +75% will go to employee salaries and benefits.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
1st world problem
()
Date: August 28, 2016 09:52PM
YcpjE Wrote:
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> Si se Puede Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> A. It's not really a luxury since it's any
> prepared food even a chili dog at 7-11.
7-11 hot dogs are for big rollers, if you're poor you can get like 8 hot dogs for $1.
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> Si se Puede Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> A. It's not really a luxury since it's any
> prepared food even a chili dog at 7-11.
7-11 hot dogs are for big rollers, if you're poor you can get like 8 hot dogs for $1.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
HEkhx
()
Date: August 28, 2016 10:00PM
1st world problem Wrote:
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> YcpjE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Si se Puede Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > A. It's not really a luxury since it's any
> > prepared food even a chili dog at 7-11.
>
>
> 7-11 hot dogs are for big rollers, if you're poor
> you can get like 8 hot dogs for $1.
Reality is that all income and age groups (other than at the very extremes) spend about half of their food budget on meals away from home these days.
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> YcpjE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Si se Puede Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > A. It's not really a luxury since it's any
> > prepared food even a chili dog at 7-11.
>
>
> 7-11 hot dogs are for big rollers, if you're poor
> you can get like 8 hot dogs for $1.
Reality is that all income and age groups (other than at the very extremes) spend about half of their food budget on meals away from home these days.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
1st world problem
()
Date: August 28, 2016 10:01PM
If 4% is going to break them, it's best they start packing their lunch tax or not.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
vmWvV
()
Date: August 28, 2016 10:19PM
1st world problem Wrote:
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> If 4% is going to break them, it's best they start
> packing their lunch tax or not.
Not a question of whether it will 'break' anyone and saying stupid shit like pack a lunch isn't realistic or practical in many cases.
A meals tax is inherently regressive. It is a subsidy to developers and wealthy property owners paid by everyone else, disproportionately so at the lower- to middle-income groups.
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> If 4% is going to break them, it's best they start
> packing their lunch tax or not.
Not a question of whether it will 'break' anyone and saying stupid shit like pack a lunch isn't realistic or practical in many cases.
A meals tax is inherently regressive. It is a subsidy to developers and wealthy property owners paid by everyone else, disproportionately so at the lower- to middle-income groups.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
No Food Tax
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:15PM
I'm voting NO as well as the majority . It never ends with FCPS
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
cCpJ7
()
Date: August 28, 2016 11:51PM
Are you sure this isn't a racist tax?
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Freddie
()
Date: August 29, 2016 06:44AM
vmWvV Wrote:
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> 1st world problem Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If 4% is going to break them, it's best they
> start
> > packing their lunch tax or not.
>
>
> Not a question of whether it will 'break' anyone
> and saying stupid shit like pack a lunch isn't
> realistic or practical in many cases.
>
> A meals tax is inherently regressive. It is a
> subsidy to developers and wealthy property owners
> paid by everyone else, disproportionately so at
> the lower- to middle-income groups.
Good to know, vote yes to get the freeloaders to pay their share.
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> 1st world problem Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If 4% is going to break them, it's best they
> start
> > packing their lunch tax or not.
>
>
> Not a question of whether it will 'break' anyone
> and saying stupid shit like pack a lunch isn't
> realistic or practical in many cases.
>
> A meals tax is inherently regressive. It is a
> subsidy to developers and wealthy property owners
> paid by everyone else, disproportionately so at
> the lower- to middle-income groups.
Good to know, vote yes to get the freeloaders to pay their share.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
if its true
()
Date: August 29, 2016 07:56AM
If your statements are true, then put the lower tax rate into the proposed law. Example, for every dollar in new revenue acquired by the tax, property taxes will be lowered 50 cents still netting the schools an increase. They won't put it in the language because what you say on that point is a lie. As for saving our schools, this means that our schools are in mortal financial danger. Consider this. The 2016 school budget is 2.7 BILLION dollars. That is 2600 million dollars. For one school system. By your statement that the school's need saving, it would indicate gross financial mismanagement by the school board and would justify their removal. On this point, we might agree. As for the meals tax, it won't lower the property taxes, and it won't save the school's, as if the board is mismanaging 2.7 billion it currently controls, new revenue means more mismanagement. No new tax. Fire the board. Cut the budget.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
FrankR.
()
Date: August 29, 2016 12:56PM
"Maybe all the illegals should move their families back home where they can work honestly and pay taxes."
+1000
GTFO with more taxes. Fix the root cause.
+1000
GTFO with more taxes. Fix the root cause.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Herbert Kornfeld
()
Date: August 29, 2016 01:17PM
You people are idiots for thinking "just one more little tax" will fix anything. That's all the liberals ever do...just one more little tax and things will be so much better.
Clearly, anyone that believes this bullshit is too stupid to understand that it will never end.
They've already pissed away all those other little taxes that you got hit with over the years - AND YOU STILL PAY TODAY. But no, this one will be so much different.
Clearly, anyone that believes this bullshit is too stupid to understand that it will never end.
They've already pissed away all those other little taxes that you got hit with over the years - AND YOU STILL PAY TODAY. But no, this one will be so much different.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
1st world problem
()
Date: August 29, 2016 01:26PM
Freddie Wrote:
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> vmWvV Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 1st world problem Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If 4% is going to break them, it's best they
> > start
> > > packing their lunch tax or not.
> >
> >
> > Not a question of whether it will 'break'
> anyone
> > and saying stupid shit like pack a lunch isn't
> > realistic or practical in many cases.
> >
> > A meals tax is inherently regressive. It is a
> > subsidy to developers and wealthy property
> owners
> > paid by everyone else, disproportionately so at
> > the lower- to middle-income groups.
>
>
> Good to know, vote yes to get the freeloaders to
> pay their share.
+1
It's about time these renting peasants start paying some taxes. The illegals will be forced to pay the tax too, there is probably not much room in the fridge they share with 20 other people to eat at home.
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> vmWvV Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 1st world problem Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If 4% is going to break them, it's best they
> > start
> > > packing their lunch tax or not.
> >
> >
> > Not a question of whether it will 'break'
> anyone
> > and saying stupid shit like pack a lunch isn't
> > realistic or practical in many cases.
> >
> > A meals tax is inherently regressive. It is a
> > subsidy to developers and wealthy property
> owners
> > paid by everyone else, disproportionately so at
> > the lower- to middle-income groups.
>
>
> Good to know, vote yes to get the freeloaders to
> pay their share.
+1
It's about time these renting peasants start paying some taxes. The illegals will be forced to pay the tax too, there is probably not much room in the fridge they share with 20 other people to eat at home.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Obey the law
()
Date: August 29, 2016 03:36PM
"Maybe all the illegals should move their families back home where they can work honestly and pay taxes."
ding ding ding ding, we have a winner!
Entire budget increase is because of the increase in illegal immigrants in the county. Those who work are day laborers, paying no taxes.
Also, the number of illegal immigrant children being brought into Fairfax county sponsor families is a huge part also.
As a nation, we need to stop bleeding immigrants across our borders. We need to know, and control who can and can't come in (like our laws prescribe we do).
Voting no on any taxes. What insane person would vote for more taxes? We're already over taxed.
ding ding ding ding, we have a winner!
Entire budget increase is because of the increase in illegal immigrants in the county. Those who work are day laborers, paying no taxes.
Also, the number of illegal immigrant children being brought into Fairfax county sponsor families is a huge part also.
As a nation, we need to stop bleeding immigrants across our borders. We need to know, and control who can and can't come in (like our laws prescribe we do).
Voting no on any taxes. What insane person would vote for more taxes? We're already over taxed.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
7KGW6
()
Date: August 29, 2016 04:45PM
3uLE9 Wrote:
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> the question was should be asking is why is there
> such a budget shortfall now when it comes to
> schools? i for one do not believe this will lower
> my property taxes either. sounds like a spending
> and inefficiency issue, solve it some other way
> before you come to me with your hand out.
Stupid fuck will pay 100% of the needed tax increase or 65%. How dumb do you have to be to choose the higher number? What an asshole!
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> the question was should be asking is why is there
> such a budget shortfall now when it comes to
> schools? i for one do not believe this will lower
> my property taxes either. sounds like a spending
> and inefficiency issue, solve it some other way
> before you come to me with your hand out.
Stupid fuck will pay 100% of the needed tax increase or 65%. How dumb do you have to be to choose the higher number? What an asshole!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
TGEeX
()
Date: August 29, 2016 04:51PM
7KGW6 Wrote:
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> 3uLE9 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > the question was should be asking is why is
> there
> > such a budget shortfall now when it comes to
> > schools? i for one do not believe this will
> lower
> > my property taxes either. sounds like a
> spending
> > and inefficiency issue, solve it some other way
> > before you come to me with your hand out.
>
> Stupid fuck will pay 100% of the needed tax
> increase or 65%. How dumb do you have to be to
> choose the higher number? What an asshole!
65% is bullshit.
And if it's passed it we'll end up paying the meals tax + 100% of the property tax + future increases regardless of any meals tax.
-------------------------------------------------------
> 3uLE9 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > the question was should be asking is why is
> there
> > such a budget shortfall now when it comes to
> > schools? i for one do not believe this will
> lower
> > my property taxes either. sounds like a
> spending
> > and inefficiency issue, solve it some other way
> > before you come to me with your hand out.
>
> Stupid fuck will pay 100% of the needed tax
> increase or 65%. How dumb do you have to be to
> choose the higher number? What an asshole!
65% is bullshit.
And if it's passed it we'll end up paying the meals tax + 100% of the property tax + future increases regardless of any meals tax.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Section*8*Sharon
()
Date: August 29, 2016 04:51PM
^^^^
Correct answer.
Correct answer.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
e9jEp
()
Date: August 29, 2016 05:06PM
TGEeX Wrote:
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> 65% is bullshit.
No, you're just an ignorant asshole. There are no real data to work from yet, but studies have suggested that about 28% of the payments and 35% of the total revenues would come from persons residing outside of Fairfax County. Another chunk will come from wealthy County residents who are able to dine out often and at our more upscale eateries. Obviously, this would not include you either.
So here's the deal. You can pass the meals tax and have all these other people help us pay the bills, or you can insist on paying them all yourself, which is exactly what will happen. So go ahead now -- show us one more time how pathetically stupid you are.
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> 65% is bullshit.
No, you're just an ignorant asshole. There are no real data to work from yet, but studies have suggested that about 28% of the payments and 35% of the total revenues would come from persons residing outside of Fairfax County. Another chunk will come from wealthy County residents who are able to dine out often and at our more upscale eateries. Obviously, this would not include you either.
So here's the deal. You can pass the meals tax and have all these other people help us pay the bills, or you can insist on paying them all yourself, which is exactly what will happen. So go ahead now -- show us one more time how pathetically stupid you are.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
F7mEc
()
Date: August 29, 2016 05:23PM
The 35% of total revenues is something new, so I would like to see the source. Of course nobody knows the true number, because we have no way of accurately determining which dollars are coming from residents and which are not.
The "wealthy County residents who are able to dine out often and at our more upscale eateries" is offset by the fact that it also hits carry out sales and sales of prepared foods from grocery stores and convenience stores. Also under an Attorney General opinion the meals tax does not apply to sales of alcohol only at restaurants. Patrons sharing expensive bottles of wine won't have to pay the tax so long as they don't order food to go with it.
The "wealthy County residents who are able to dine out often and at our more upscale eateries" is offset by the fact that it also hits carry out sales and sales of prepared foods from grocery stores and convenience stores. Also under an Attorney General opinion the meals tax does not apply to sales of alcohol only at restaurants. Patrons sharing expensive bottles of wine won't have to pay the tax so long as they don't order food to go with it.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
tuuEK
()
Date: August 29, 2016 05:46PM
e9jEp Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> TGEeX Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 65% is bullshit.
>
> No, you're just an ignorant asshole.
No, YOU are the Asshole...
> There are no
> real data to work from yet, but studies have
> suggested that about 28% of the payments and 35%
> of the total revenues would come from persons
> residing outside of Fairfax County.
Yes, in fact there are real data including that from those cities/counties in the DC area currently collecting them as well as monthly/quarterly sales and use tax filings by local businesses.
There are no 'studies' which suggest anything. The Board's guess at a number is a trivially simplistic, BS, back-of-a-Sea-Pearl-napkin estimate. It's based on taking total gross expenditures from a very coarse model called TEIM, assumiung that ~25% is spent on food, and then simply multiplying by the rate. They didn't even use the more appropriate output available from the model for local tax receipts, which even then includes business taxes, payrolls, and other secondary economic effects. Anyone who actually looks at the current receipts from sales taxes, from areas with meals taxes, disaggregated lodging vs meals receipts, or financial estimates for the economic impact of toursim done by, for example, Alexandria, VA Beach, etc., will very quickly see that number is pure fantasy.
> Another chunk
> will come from wealthy County residents who are
> able to dine out often and at our more upscale
> eateries. Obviously, this would not include you
> either.
An equal to greater chunk will come from other than sit-down meals at 'upscale eateries.' Total expenditures are roughly equal between restaurants and other meals away from home. Which is why it's not proposed as a tax on sit-down meals since it would only generate maybe half of the revenue. Lower income residents will pay a disprportionate share of income to subsidize the property tax bills of developers and wealthy property owners dining at those 'upsacel eateries.'
> So here's the deal. You can pass the meals tax
> and have all these other people help us pay the
> bills, or you can insist on paying them all
> yourself, which is exactly what will happen. So
> go ahead now -- show us one more time how
> pathetically stupid you are.
Once again, here's the real deal... If a meals tax is passed we'll end up paying the meals tax + 100% of the current property tax + future increases of the same magnitude regardless of any meals tax.
-------------------------------------------------------
> TGEeX Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 65% is bullshit.
>
> No, you're just an ignorant asshole.
No, YOU are the Asshole...
> There are no
> real data to work from yet, but studies have
> suggested that about 28% of the payments and 35%
> of the total revenues would come from persons
> residing outside of Fairfax County.
Yes, in fact there are real data including that from those cities/counties in the DC area currently collecting them as well as monthly/quarterly sales and use tax filings by local businesses.
There are no 'studies' which suggest anything. The Board's guess at a number is a trivially simplistic, BS, back-of-a-Sea-Pearl-napkin estimate. It's based on taking total gross expenditures from a very coarse model called TEIM, assumiung that ~25% is spent on food, and then simply multiplying by the rate. They didn't even use the more appropriate output available from the model for local tax receipts, which even then includes business taxes, payrolls, and other secondary economic effects. Anyone who actually looks at the current receipts from sales taxes, from areas with meals taxes, disaggregated lodging vs meals receipts, or financial estimates for the economic impact of toursim done by, for example, Alexandria, VA Beach, etc., will very quickly see that number is pure fantasy.
> Another chunk
> will come from wealthy County residents who are
> able to dine out often and at our more upscale
> eateries. Obviously, this would not include you
> either.
An equal to greater chunk will come from other than sit-down meals at 'upscale eateries.' Total expenditures are roughly equal between restaurants and other meals away from home. Which is why it's not proposed as a tax on sit-down meals since it would only generate maybe half of the revenue. Lower income residents will pay a disprportionate share of income to subsidize the property tax bills of developers and wealthy property owners dining at those 'upsacel eateries.'
> So here's the deal. You can pass the meals tax
> and have all these other people help us pay the
> bills, or you can insist on paying them all
> yourself, which is exactly what will happen. So
> go ahead now -- show us one more time how
> pathetically stupid you are.
Once again, here's the real deal... If a meals tax is passed we'll end up paying the meals tax + 100% of the current property tax + future increases of the same magnitude regardless of any meals tax.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
I must agree with this analysis
()
Date: August 29, 2016 05:59PM
tuuEK Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> e9jEp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TGEeX Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 65% is bullshit.
> >
> > No, you're just an ignorant asshole.
>
> No, YOU are the Asshole...
>
> > There are no
> > real data to work from yet, but studies have
> > suggested that about 28% of the payments and
> 35%
> > of the total revenues would come from persons
> > residing outside of Fairfax County.
>
> Yes, in fact there are real data including that
> from those cities/counties in the DC area
> currently collecting them as well as
> monthly/quarterly sales and use tax filings by
> local businesses.
>
> There are no 'studies' which suggest anything.
> The Board's guess at a number is a trivially
> simplistic, BS, back-of-a-Sea-Pearl-napkin
> estimate. It's based on taking total gross
> expenditures from a very coarse model called TEIM,
> assumiung that ~25% is spent on food, and then
> simply multiplying by the rate. They didn't even
> use the more appropriate output available from the
> model for local tax receipts, which even then
> includes business taxes, payrolls, and other
> secondary economic effects. Anyone who actually
> looks at the current receipts from sales taxes,
> from areas with meals taxes, disaggregated lodging
> vs meals receipts, or financial estimates for the
> economic impact of toursim done by, for example,
> Alexandria, VA Beach, etc., will very quickly see
> that number is pure fantasy.
>
> > Another chunk
> > will come from wealthy County residents who are
> > able to dine out often and at our more upscale
> > eateries. Obviously, this would not include
> you
> > either.
>
> An equal to greater chunk will come from other
> than sit-down meals at 'upscale eateries.' Total
> expenditures are roughly equal between restaurants
> and other meals away from home. Which is why it's
> not proposed as a tax on sit-down meals since it
> would only generate maybe half of the revenue.
> Lower income residents will pay a disprportionate
> share of income to subsidize the property tax
> bills of developers and wealthy property owners
> dining at those 'upsacel eateries.'
>
>
> > So here's the deal. You can pass the meals tax
> > and have all these other people help us pay the
> > bills, or you can insist on paying them all
> > yourself, which is exactly what will happen.
> So
> > go ahead now -- show us one more time how
> > pathetically stupid you are.
>
>
> Once again, here's the real deal... If a meals tax
> is passed we'll end up paying the meals tax + 100%
> of the current property tax + future increases of
> the same magnitude regardless of any meals tax.
+1,000; meals tax + property tax + increases + God knows what other taxes they will think of.
-------------------------------------------------------
> e9jEp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TGEeX Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 65% is bullshit.
> >
> > No, you're just an ignorant asshole.
>
> No, YOU are the Asshole...
>
> > There are no
> > real data to work from yet, but studies have
> > suggested that about 28% of the payments and
> 35%
> > of the total revenues would come from persons
> > residing outside of Fairfax County.
>
> Yes, in fact there are real data including that
> from those cities/counties in the DC area
> currently collecting them as well as
> monthly/quarterly sales and use tax filings by
> local businesses.
>
> There are no 'studies' which suggest anything.
> The Board's guess at a number is a trivially
> simplistic, BS, back-of-a-Sea-Pearl-napkin
> estimate. It's based on taking total gross
> expenditures from a very coarse model called TEIM,
> assumiung that ~25% is spent on food, and then
> simply multiplying by the rate. They didn't even
> use the more appropriate output available from the
> model for local tax receipts, which even then
> includes business taxes, payrolls, and other
> secondary economic effects. Anyone who actually
> looks at the current receipts from sales taxes,
> from areas with meals taxes, disaggregated lodging
> vs meals receipts, or financial estimates for the
> economic impact of toursim done by, for example,
> Alexandria, VA Beach, etc., will very quickly see
> that number is pure fantasy.
>
> > Another chunk
> > will come from wealthy County residents who are
> > able to dine out often and at our more upscale
> > eateries. Obviously, this would not include
> you
> > either.
>
> An equal to greater chunk will come from other
> than sit-down meals at 'upscale eateries.' Total
> expenditures are roughly equal between restaurants
> and other meals away from home. Which is why it's
> not proposed as a tax on sit-down meals since it
> would only generate maybe half of the revenue.
> Lower income residents will pay a disprportionate
> share of income to subsidize the property tax
> bills of developers and wealthy property owners
> dining at those 'upsacel eateries.'
>
>
> > So here's the deal. You can pass the meals tax
> > and have all these other people help us pay the
> > bills, or you can insist on paying them all
> > yourself, which is exactly what will happen.
> So
> > go ahead now -- show us one more time how
> > pathetically stupid you are.
>
>
> Once again, here's the real deal... If a meals tax
> is passed we'll end up paying the meals tax + 100%
> of the current property tax + future increases of
> the same magnitude regardless of any meals tax.
+1,000; meals tax + property tax + increases + God knows what other taxes they will think of.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
we need more taxes
()
Date: August 29, 2016 06:04PM
25% tax on all tobacco products
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Tax man
()
Date: August 29, 2016 06:06PM
There are already are heavy taxes on tobacco products.
Try something else, like organic shit.
Try something else, like organic shit.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
we need more taxes
()
Date: August 29, 2016 06:10PM
No, fuck those smokers 25% in addition to what they are now. We need our cigarettes prices closer to what D.C has them at.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
weiner
()
Date: August 29, 2016 06:23PM
80% tax on catheters.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
......Vote......
()
Date: August 29, 2016 06:23PM
No
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
@#$RW#
()
Date: August 29, 2016 08:11PM
hah
they pass this and property tax will still go up
the school administrators must be fed!
they pass this and property tax will still go up
the school administrators must be fed!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Tax 'em til they bleed
()
Date: August 29, 2016 08:30PM
"they pass this and property tax will still go up"
Look at the history of government, they spend, spend more, tax more, then tax even more.
They are never happy. Money is like a drug to them. They are addicted to spending.
The tax is guaranteed to fail, who in their right mind would vote for a tax on themself?
Look at the history of government, they spend, spend more, tax more, then tax even more.
They are never happy. Money is like a drug to them. They are addicted to spending.
The tax is guaranteed to fail, who in their right mind would vote for a tax on themself?
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
MFR landlord
()
Date: August 29, 2016 09:39PM
Tax 'em til they bleed Wrote:
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> "they pass this and property tax will still go
> up"
>
> Look at the history of government, they spend,
> spend more, tax more, then tax even more.
>
> They are never happy. Money is like a drug to
> them. They are addicted to spending.
>
> The tax is guaranteed to fail, who in their right
> mind would vote for a tax on themself?
I'll sure be voting for the meals tax!
-------------------------------------------------------
> "they pass this and property tax will still go
> up"
>
> Look at the history of government, they spend,
> spend more, tax more, then tax even more.
>
> They are never happy. Money is like a drug to
> them. They are addicted to spending.
>
> The tax is guaranteed to fail, who in their right
> mind would vote for a tax on themself?
I'll sure be voting for the meals tax!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Mark j
()
Date: August 30, 2016 10:27PM
I don't give a shit about fcps..screw them
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
truth about the meals tax
()
Date: August 31, 2016 12:59PM
1) The meals tax won't cover the entire school shortfall; it has been described as a "band-aid" so more money will be needded.
2) The County has NO plans for immediate tax relief; if anything, passage of the meals tax would be accompanied by an increase in property taxes.
So, what to do? Vote NO on the meals tax on November 8!
2) The County has NO plans for immediate tax relief; if anything, passage of the meals tax would be accompanied by an increase in property taxes.
So, what to do? Vote NO on the meals tax on November 8!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
BrianSchoeneman
()
Date: August 31, 2016 01:19PM
It's hard to believe that anybody actually thinks this is going to result in a reduced property tax rate.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
part of the propaganda
()
Date: August 31, 2016 01:25PM
BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's hard to believe that anybody actually thinks
> this is going to result in a reduced property tax
> rate.
Property tax reduction is one of the "selling points" of the meals tax.
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's hard to believe that anybody actually thinks
> this is going to result in a reduced property tax
> rate.
Property tax reduction is one of the "selling points" of the meals tax.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
I vote...
()
Date: August 31, 2016 05:26PM
No. I can't demand more money from my employer just because I can't handle my finances properly, why should the county?
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
FIFY
()
Date: August 31, 2016 05:34PM
part of the propaganda Wrote:
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> BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's hard to believe that anybody actually
> thinks
> > this is going to result in a reduced property
> tax
> > rate.
>
> Property tax reduction is one of the fictional "selling
> points" of the meals tax.
FIFY
-------------------------------------------------------
> BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's hard to believe that anybody actually
> thinks
> > this is going to result in a reduced property
> tax
> > rate.
>
> Property tax reduction is one of the fictional "selling
> points" of the meals tax.
FIFY
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
blue apron
()
Date: August 31, 2016 06:02PM
I'll just start tipping 11%.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
your date
()
Date: August 31, 2016 06:13PM
blue apron Wrote:
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> I'll just start tipping 11%.
And you'll just be a shitty tipper, what a cheap SOB you are. Waaahh they raised the taxes so I'm going to take it back from a waiter.
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> I'll just start tipping 11%.
And you'll just be a shitty tipper, what a cheap SOB you are. Waaahh they raised the taxes so I'm going to take it back from a waiter.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
WdeKV
()
Date: August 31, 2016 06:26PM
Waaahh - Bulova and Garza can't get enough money for their stipend and housing allowance so we'll just stick it to the residents who eat out - waaahh, waaahhh.
Give a politician an inch they'll take a mile - NO NEW TAXES!
Give a politician an inch they'll take a mile - NO NEW TAXES!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: August 31, 2016 06:49PM
BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's hard to believe that anybody actually thinks
> this is going to result in a reduced property tax
> rate.
Part of the problem with selling this proposal is they don't have a good message. "If voters reject the meals tax services will be cut and residential real estate taxes will rise. If voters approve the meals tax services will be cut and residential real estate taxes will rise...just not as much."
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's hard to believe that anybody actually thinks
> this is going to result in a reduced property tax
> rate.
Part of the problem with selling this proposal is they don't have a good message. "If voters reject the meals tax services will be cut and residential real estate taxes will rise. If voters approve the meals tax services will be cut and residential real estate taxes will rise...just not as much."
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
BrianSchoeneman
()
Date: August 31, 2016 07:19PM
Bill.N. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's hard to believe that anybody actually
> thinks
> > this is going to result in a reduced property
> tax
> > rate.
>
>
> Part of the problem with selling this proposal is
> they don't have a good message. "If voters reject
> the meals tax services will be cut and residential
> real estate taxes will rise. If voters approve
> the meals tax services will be cut and residential
> real estate taxes will rise...just not as much."
Exactly. The message a few years ago when they first started discussing this was the "need to diversify the tax base" after sequestration scared everyone into realizing how dependent we were on the federal government.
That's been abandoned and now they're arguing it's money for the schools and services.
It's still a bad message.
-------------------------------------------------------
> BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's hard to believe that anybody actually
> thinks
> > this is going to result in a reduced property
> tax
> > rate.
>
>
> Part of the problem with selling this proposal is
> they don't have a good message. "If voters reject
> the meals tax services will be cut and residential
> real estate taxes will rise. If voters approve
> the meals tax services will be cut and residential
> real estate taxes will rise...just not as much."
Exactly. The message a few years ago when they first started discussing this was the "need to diversify the tax base" after sequestration scared everyone into realizing how dependent we were on the federal government.
That's been abandoned and now they're arguing it's money for the schools and services.
It's still a bad message.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Ktypc
()
Date: August 31, 2016 08:12PM
the message is:
WE WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY
Why do you say "services will be cut" - most private companies pride themselves on providing more value at lower prices. Even holding taxes steady at the rate of inflation FFX County should be able to provide improvements to services by doing things more efficiently - but no one in FCPS or in Bulovaland can comprehend this simple idea - so WE NEED MORE MONEY
WE WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY
Why do you say "services will be cut" - most private companies pride themselves on providing more value at lower prices. Even holding taxes steady at the rate of inflation FFX County should be able to provide improvements to services by doing things more efficiently - but no one in FCPS or in Bulovaland can comprehend this simple idea - so WE NEED MORE MONEY
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
For you consumption
()
Date: August 31, 2016 09:59PM
As a landlord working in the dc metro I can tell you that VA has the lowest property taxes compared to Maryland which has a 800$ a mouthly flat taxs. In va the property taxs is based on the value of your house but is only at 1% annually witch is why the rent in Baltimore and Woodbridge is almost the same.
It's also the only reason that As far as I can tell that real estate prices are so high, I have sold completely unlivable houses for over 700000$ to out of state investors just looking for a place to park there money I bought one back last weekend at a tax auction because the new owner just thought they could get away with not paying any property taxs. They called me yesterday to buy the same property back. I will not say who or were because revealing even this information could get me sued
It's also the only reason that As far as I can tell that real estate prices are so high, I have sold completely unlivable houses for over 700000$ to out of state investors just looking for a place to park there money I bought one back last weekend at a tax auction because the new owner just thought they could get away with not paying any property taxs. They called me yesterday to buy the same property back. I will not say who or were because revealing even this information could get me sued
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
meals tax WILL NOT PASS
()
Date: September 01, 2016 04:24PM
There's too much organized opposition. Just found out the operator of a few fast food franchises is giving workers time off to go vote, also giving customers free food when they come in with an 'I voted' sticker.
The pro-schools 'derpers' and 'property tax reduction dreamers' can't touch what's going to happen on November 8, sorry!
The pro-schools 'derpers' and 'property tax reduction dreamers' can't touch what's going to happen on November 8, sorry!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
dfasdfsadfads
()
Date: September 01, 2016 04:31PM
For you consumption Wrote:
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> As a landlord working in the dc metro I can tell
> you that VA has the lowest property taxes compared
> to Maryland which has a 800$ a mouthly flat taxs.
> In va the property taxs is based on the value of
> your house but is only at 1% annually witch is why
> the rent in Baltimore and Woodbridge is almost the
> same.
> It's also the only reason that As far as I can
> tell that real estate prices are so high, I have
> sold completely unlivable houses for over 700000$
> to out of state investors just looking for a place
> to park there money I bought one back last weekend
> at a tax auction because the new owner just
> thought they could get away with not paying any
> property taxs. They called me yesterday to buy the
> same property back. I will not say who or were
> because revealing even this information could get
> me sued
VA does have low property taxes, a $250,000 home in Richmond will only run you like $2000 a year in taxes. NoVA as a whole does not have low property taxes, ours are not far off from MoGO and D.C.
-------------------------------------------------------
> As a landlord working in the dc metro I can tell
> you that VA has the lowest property taxes compared
> to Maryland which has a 800$ a mouthly flat taxs.
> In va the property taxs is based on the value of
> your house but is only at 1% annually witch is why
> the rent in Baltimore and Woodbridge is almost the
> same.
> It's also the only reason that As far as I can
> tell that real estate prices are so high, I have
> sold completely unlivable houses for over 700000$
> to out of state investors just looking for a place
> to park there money I bought one back last weekend
> at a tax auction because the new owner just
> thought they could get away with not paying any
> property taxs. They called me yesterday to buy the
> same property back. I will not say who or were
> because revealing even this information could get
> me sued
VA does have low property taxes, a $250,000 home in Richmond will only run you like $2000 a year in taxes. NoVA as a whole does not have low property taxes, ours are not far off from MoGO and D.C.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Silverado is yucky
()
Date: September 01, 2016 09:53PM
Silverado has a sign up asking customers to vote against the tax, unfortunately for them some of their customers also support the schools and won't be going back. Our PTA supports the tax and will not support restaurants who lobby against the schools.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
when fcps
()
Date: September 01, 2016 10:05PM
When FCPS decides to spend its money wisely, I might consider voting for the meals tax. Meanwhile, kids in the Chantilly pyramid are all getting free computers........
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
question for you
()
Date: September 02, 2016 09:50AM
Silverado is yucky Wrote:
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> Silverado has a sign up asking customers to vote
> against the tax, unfortunately for them some of
> their customers also support the schools and won't
> be going back. Our PTA supports the tax and will
> not support restaurants who lobby against the
> schools.
Where, if anywhere, do you eat out then? Name some Fairfax County restaurants supporting this tax.
While you are at it, you need to find a new place to buy your groceries, as the major supermarket chains have come out against it as well.
what will you do when it does not pass? Stop eating?
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> Silverado has a sign up asking customers to vote
> against the tax, unfortunately for them some of
> their customers also support the schools and won't
> be going back. Our PTA supports the tax and will
> not support restaurants who lobby against the
> schools.
Where, if anywhere, do you eat out then? Name some Fairfax County restaurants supporting this tax.
While you are at it, you need to find a new place to buy your groceries, as the major supermarket chains have come out against it as well.
what will you do when it does not pass? Stop eating?
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
akkjat
()
Date: September 02, 2016 12:16PM
This makes me want to support Silverado and any restaurant that small-minded provincial parents are boycotting. It's reasonable that businesses express an opinions. I was voting no anyway and I have kids in FCPS.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
wise decision
()
Date: September 02, 2016 01:14PM
akkjat Wrote:
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> This makes me want to support Silverado and any
> restaurant that small-minded provincial parents
> are boycotting. It's reasonable that businesses
> express an opinions. I was voting no anyway and I
> have kids in FCPS.
+1
It is also worth noting that Pat Hynes' attacks on restaurants not supporting the tax have vanished, perhaps someone talked some (legal) sense into her about the use of her school board position to attempt to disrupt a local business?
It is also a good point about groceries, are people going to start going out of the County to buy them because the stores here don't want to be taxed on the snack items sold at checkout counters?
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> This makes me want to support Silverado and any
> restaurant that small-minded provincial parents
> are boycotting. It's reasonable that businesses
> express an opinions. I was voting no anyway and I
> have kids in FCPS.
+1
It is also worth noting that Pat Hynes' attacks on restaurants not supporting the tax have vanished, perhaps someone talked some (legal) sense into her about the use of her school board position to attempt to disrupt a local business?
It is also a good point about groceries, are people going to start going out of the County to buy them because the stores here don't want to be taxed on the snack items sold at checkout counters?
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
David Allen Coe
()
Date: September 02, 2016 01:15PM
akkjat Wrote:
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> This makes me want to support Silverado and any
> restaurant that small-minded provincial parents
> are boycotting. It's reasonable that businesses
> express an opinions. I was voting no anyway and I
> have kids in FCPS.
Oh please, you are being contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian.
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> This makes me want to support Silverado and any
> restaurant that small-minded provincial parents
> are boycotting. It's reasonable that businesses
> express an opinions. I was voting no anyway and I
> have kids in FCPS.
Oh please, you are being contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
typical meals supporter's child
()
Date: September 02, 2016 01:26PM
You just know these liberals dress their kids like this. And look at him, saving up meals tax money. How sweet.
If the tax passes, the liberals will pay extra to have their little Democratic and PTA get togethers at the usual school board hangouts.
Attachments:
If the tax passes, the liberals will pay extra to have their little Democratic and PTA get togethers at the usual school board hangouts.
Attachments:
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
nothing wrong here
()
Date: September 02, 2016 01:28PM
David Allen Coe Wrote:
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> akkjat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This makes me want to support Silverado and any
> > restaurant that small-minded provincial parents
> > are boycotting. It's reasonable that businesses
> > express an opinions. I was voting no anyway and
> I
> > have kids in FCPS.
>
> Oh please, you are being contrarian just for the
> sake of being contrarian.
The small minded provincial parents here are probably the same ones going on those suspicious Boosterthon trips to Atlanta.
Nothing wrong with being contrarian in the face of nonsense like that.
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> akkjat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This makes me want to support Silverado and any
> > restaurant that small-minded provincial parents
> > are boycotting. It's reasonable that businesses
> > express an opinions. I was voting no anyway and
> I
> > have kids in FCPS.
>
> Oh please, you are being contrarian just for the
> sake of being contrarian.
The small minded provincial parents here are probably the same ones going on those suspicious Boosterthon trips to Atlanta.
Nothing wrong with being contrarian in the face of nonsense like that.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
vote no on the meals tax
()
Date: September 03, 2016 09:07AM
Why would anyone vote for this? The people at Gatehouse will just use any extra funds to hire consultants, travel, eat out, go to conferences, hire administrators and engage in more of McElveen's social justice programs.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Vote yes on the meals tax
()
Date: September 03, 2016 09:35AM
Yes
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
what is wrong with you?
()
Date: September 03, 2016 09:53AM
Vote yes on the meals tax Wrote:
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> Yes
If you think Garza is underpaid, sell your house or car and send her the money. Do not expect the rest of us to subsidize your worship of that useless bitch.
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> Yes
If you think Garza is underpaid, sell your house or car and send her the money. Do not expect the rest of us to subsidize your worship of that useless bitch.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Need more taxes
()
Date: September 03, 2016 10:49AM
Virginia ranks 40th in overall taxes paid by citizens. Only 10 states have lower overall taxes. There surely is room for a few more tax dollars to be collected for such a good cause and the meals tax is a great way to do it.
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/total_taxes/
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/total_taxes/
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
MVHDn
()
Date: September 03, 2016 11:17AM
Need more taxes Wrote:
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> Virginia ranks 40th in overall taxes paid by
> citizens. Only 10 states have lower overall taxes.
> There surely is room for a few more tax dollars to
> be collected for such a good cause and the meals
> tax is a great way to do it.
>
> http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/total_taxes
> /
That's not counting anything other than income and sales taxes. e.g., Real estate, personal property, meals taxes, etc. But if you think property taxes are too low, then raise them. We're still on the low side for that. No need for trying to hide the cost in a meals tax.
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> Virginia ranks 40th in overall taxes paid by
> citizens. Only 10 states have lower overall taxes.
> There surely is room for a few more tax dollars to
> be collected for such a good cause and the meals
> tax is a great way to do it.
>
> http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/total_taxes
> /
That's not counting anything other than income and sales taxes. e.g., Real estate, personal property, meals taxes, etc. But if you think property taxes are too low, then raise them. We're still on the low side for that. No need for trying to hide the cost in a meals tax.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
one thing for sure.........
()
Date: September 03, 2016 11:26AM
....... The people who pay the most taxes have the highest quality of life, proven fact.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
RobinHood
()
Date: September 03, 2016 11:34AM
Great idea, tax the BMW crowd and use the money on the free breakfast program. Well fed kids are better students.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Great Falls res
()
Date: September 03, 2016 11:43AM
I pay almost $60k a year in property taxes, it's time some of you peasants pay your fair share.
Vote yes!
Vote yes!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
you are deluded
()
Date: September 03, 2016 12:24PM
Great Falls res Wrote:
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> I pay almost $60k a year in property taxes, it's
> time some of you peasants pay your fair share.
>
>
> Vote yes!
Passing the meals tax will not lower your property taxes!
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> I pay almost $60k a year in property taxes, it's
> time some of you peasants pay your fair share.
>
>
> Vote yes!
Passing the meals tax will not lower your property taxes!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Geezes
()
Date: September 03, 2016 12:30PM
you are deluded Wrote:
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> Great Falls res Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I pay almost $60k a year in property taxes,
> it's
> > time some of you peasants pay your fair share.
> >
> >
> > Vote yes!
>
> Passing the meals tax will not lower your property
> taxes!
No shit, you ignorant fuck. The meals tax may reduce the increase in the property tax and a large portion of the meals tax will be paid by non county residents. This is a GREAT way to tax!!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Great Falls res Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I pay almost $60k a year in property taxes,
> it's
> > time some of you peasants pay your fair share.
> >
> >
> > Vote yes!
>
> Passing the meals tax will not lower your property
> taxes!
No shit, you ignorant fuck. The meals tax may reduce the increase in the property tax and a large portion of the meals tax will be paid by non county residents. This is a GREAT way to tax!!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
supposition suppository
()
Date: September 03, 2016 01:42PM
Geezes Wrote:
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> you are deluded Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Great Falls res Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I pay almost $60k a year in property taxes,
> > it's
> > > time some of you peasants pay your fair share.
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Vote yes!
> >
> > Passing the meals tax will not lower your
> property
> > taxes!
>
> No shit, you ignorant fuck. The meals tax may
> reduce the increase in the property tax and a
> large portion of the meals tax will be paid by non
> county residents. This is a GREAT way to tax!!
1) "may" reduce the increase? Dream on.
2) "a large portion?" could you please substantiate this?
-------------------------------------------------------
> you are deluded Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Great Falls res Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I pay almost $60k a year in property taxes,
> > it's
> > > time some of you peasants pay your fair share.
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Vote yes!
> >
> > Passing the meals tax will not lower your
> property
> > taxes!
>
> No shit, you ignorant fuck. The meals tax may
> reduce the increase in the property tax and a
> large portion of the meals tax will be paid by non
> county residents. This is a GREAT way to tax!!
1) "may" reduce the increase? Dream on.
2) "a large portion?" could you please substantiate this?
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Raise the tobacco tax
()
Date: September 03, 2016 05:26PM
we need more taxes Wrote:
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> 25% tax on all tobacco products
The Supervisors can't raise the tobacco tax unless the Virginia General Assembly changes state law that currently limits the local tobacco tax to 30 cents per pack.
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> 25% tax on all tobacco products
The Supervisors can't raise the tobacco tax unless the Virginia General Assembly changes state law that currently limits the local tobacco tax to 30 cents per pack.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
smoke til death
()
Date: September 03, 2016 06:18PM
we need more taxes Wrote:
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> 25% tax on all tobacco products
Drop the cigarette tax and allow our stores to do bulk sales for out of state buyers. Make $$$ in volume.
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> 25% tax on all tobacco products
Drop the cigarette tax and allow our stores to do bulk sales for out of state buyers. Make $$$ in volume.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
The bottom line here......
()
Date: September 03, 2016 06:57PM
.........Is that the meal tax is a great idea and anyone who thinks otherwise is a ignorant fuck.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
such eloquence
()
Date: September 03, 2016 07:06PM
The bottom line here...... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> .........Is that the meal tax is a great idea and
> anyone who thinks otherwise is a ignorant fuck.
Too bad you were not at the union meeting where a vote was held and a resolution passed for all members to vote against the meals tax. Your name calling might have made you some new friends!
-------------------------------------------------------
> .........Is that the meal tax is a great idea and
> anyone who thinks otherwise is a ignorant fuck.
Too bad you were not at the union meeting where a vote was held and a resolution passed for all members to vote against the meals tax. Your name calling might have made you some new friends!
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Vote yes on the meals tax
()
Date: September 03, 2016 08:34PM
Yes
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Criptin
()
Date: September 04, 2016 09:02AM
Why not make that 4% meal tax optional for patrons. So those who support the meal tax can make their willing contribution and those against it are not forced to pay yet another tax.
Scenario:
Waitress: I'm leaving you your tab for your convenience. Would you be interested in supporting local public schools? Please consider paying an additional $8 tonight and it will go directly to bridge the budget deficit of one of the largest, wealthiest school districts in the country. Just check the box on your check right below the tip line.
$200 dinner
$ 40 20 % tax
$ 8 4% dine out tax (optional)
Total for dining out: $248
Scenario:
Waitress: I'm leaving you your tab for your convenience. Would you be interested in supporting local public schools? Please consider paying an additional $8 tonight and it will go directly to bridge the budget deficit of one of the largest, wealthiest school districts in the country. Just check the box on your check right below the tip line.
$200 dinner
$ 40 20 % tax
$ 8 4% dine out tax (optional)
Total for dining out: $248
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
I like it ... However
()
Date: September 05, 2016 04:33PM
The county can't enforce the option to pay tax vs requiring it from all. Those cities who have already adopted the meals tax are quick to go after the businesses who get behind on this tax.
Also the revenues flatten after less than 2 yrs of the tax. So it really is a shortsighted bureaucratic fiasco.
Also the revenues flatten after less than 2 yrs of the tax. So it really is a shortsighted bureaucratic fiasco.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Vienna Resident
()
Date: September 05, 2016 05:14PM
The meals tax in Vienna is a huge success!
When it first took effect it did have a negative effect on the food service industry here in town. After 3 months business actually increased overall. The tax may have actually caused a few restaurants to close but they were soon replaced with better and more profitable ones. In the end there are no negatives and passing the meals tax was on of the best things we ever did. The city of Manassas and town of Warrenton had similar success with their meals tax.
Fairfax has always had a big population of right wingers who oppose any new tax but now that people who think that way are dying off maybe it will pass this time.
When it first took effect it did have a negative effect on the food service industry here in town. After 3 months business actually increased overall. The tax may have actually caused a few restaurants to close but they were soon replaced with better and more profitable ones. In the end there are no negatives and passing the meals tax was on of the best things we ever did. The city of Manassas and town of Warrenton had similar success with their meals tax.
Fairfax has always had a big population of right wingers who oppose any new tax but now that people who think that way are dying off maybe it will pass this time.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
9kUpY
()
Date: September 05, 2016 07:35PM
Vienna Resident Wrote:
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> The meals tax in Vienna is a huge success!
>
> When it first took effect it did have a negative
> effect on the food service industry here in town.
> After 3 months business actually increased
> overall. The tax may have actually caused a few
> restaurants to close but they were soon replaced
> with better and more profitable ones. In the end
> there are no negatives and passing the meals tax
> was on of the best things we ever did. The city of
> Manassas and town of Warrenton had similar success
> with their meals tax.
> Fairfax has always had a big population of right
> wingers who oppose any new tax but now that people
> who think that way are dying off maybe it will
> pass this time.
Data to support your assertions - please. Otherwise you're just bloviating bullshit...
-------------------------------------------------------
> The meals tax in Vienna is a huge success!
>
> When it first took effect it did have a negative
> effect on the food service industry here in town.
> After 3 months business actually increased
> overall. The tax may have actually caused a few
> restaurants to close but they were soon replaced
> with better and more profitable ones. In the end
> there are no negatives and passing the meals tax
> was on of the best things we ever did. The city of
> Manassas and town of Warrenton had similar success
> with their meals tax.
> Fairfax has always had a big population of right
> wingers who oppose any new tax but now that people
> who think that way are dying off maybe it will
> pass this time.
Data to support your assertions - please. Otherwise you're just bloviating bullshit...
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
Old Man Fairfax
()
Date: September 05, 2016 08:13PM
> Fairfax has always had a big population of right
> wingers who oppose any new tax but now that people
> who think that way are dying off maybe it will
> pass this time.
Now, the county is full of liberal carpetbaggers.
> wingers who oppose any new tax but now that people
> who think that way are dying off maybe it will
> pass this time.
Now, the county is full of liberal carpetbaggers.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
yes, please provide support
()
Date: September 05, 2016 08:29PM
9kUpY Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Vienna Resident Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The meals tax in Vienna is a huge success!
> >
> > When it first took effect it did have a
> negative
> > effect on the food service industry here in
> town.
> > After 3 months business actually increased
> > overall. The tax may have actually caused a few
> > restaurants to close but they were soon
> replaced
> > with better and more profitable ones. In the
> end
> > there are no negatives and passing the meals
> tax
> > was on of the best things we ever did. The city
> of
> > Manassas and town of Warrenton had similar
> success
> > with their meals tax.
> > Fairfax has always had a big population of
> right
> > wingers who oppose any new tax but now that
> people
> > who think that way are dying off maybe it will
> > pass this time.
>
> Data to support your assertions - please.
> Otherwise you're just bloviating bullshit...
Vienna passed its meals tax in 1989, where's the data, please?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Vienna Resident Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The meals tax in Vienna is a huge success!
> >
> > When it first took effect it did have a
> negative
> > effect on the food service industry here in
> town.
> > After 3 months business actually increased
> > overall. The tax may have actually caused a few
> > restaurants to close but they were soon
> replaced
> > with better and more profitable ones. In the
> end
> > there are no negatives and passing the meals
> tax
> > was on of the best things we ever did. The city
> of
> > Manassas and town of Warrenton had similar
> success
> > with their meals tax.
> > Fairfax has always had a big population of
> right
> > wingers who oppose any new tax but now that
> people
> > who think that way are dying off maybe it will
> > pass this time.
>
> Data to support your assertions - please.
> Otherwise you're just bloviating bullshit...
Vienna passed its meals tax in 1989, where's the data, please?
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
little rocky run for it.
()
Date: September 05, 2016 08:34PM
There was a big push in favor of the meals tax lately. Looks like it deserves a chance, we should all vote yes.
Re: 4% Meals Tax to Save our Schools and Reduce our Property Taxes
Posted by:
son of life
()
Date: September 05, 2016 08:40PM
The bottom line here...... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> .........Is that the meal tax is a great idea and
> anyone who thinks otherwise is a ignorant fuck.
That's for sure.
-------------------------------------------------------
> .........Is that the meal tax is a great idea and
> anyone who thinks otherwise is a ignorant fuck.
That's for sure.