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FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: vote no on the meals tax ()
Date: August 02, 2016 02:10PM

FCPS hired a convicted Felon, Jessica Flinn.

This was not an oversight, FCPS administration acted deliberately on the matter.

Then, there was litigation-FCPS had to hire lawyers.

FCPS is to be faulted for hiring a felon in the first place.

Then, money that could have been spent on improving test scores had to be spent on lawyers.

Is this responsible behavior? NO IT IS NOT.

FCPS does not handle money wisely.

Make it clear to FCPS that they have to work with what they have-no more!

Vote no on the meals tax on November 8!
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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: Good help is hard to find ()
Date: August 02, 2016 02:15PM

If the county had more money they could hire better people
That's why I'm voting yes

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: lapse in logic ()
Date: August 02, 2016 02:20PM

Good help is hard to find Wrote:
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> If the county had more money they could hire
> better people
> That's why I'm voting yes

Nowhere does it say Flinn was hired due to a shortage of applicants.

There is no indication that if the County had more money, any changes would be made to its hiring practices.

This was an expensive and embarrassing mistake-what is being done to keep it from happening again? NOTHING.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: Just say yeas ()
Date: August 02, 2016 03:37PM

Well at least it wasn't a heroin dealer

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: it still wasn't cheap ()
Date: August 02, 2016 03:39PM

Just say yeas Wrote:
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> Well at least it wasn't a heroin dealer

As of 2011, Hunton and Williams was billing FCPS at an average rate of $425 an hour. Given what these lawsuits (don't forget about Marie Lemmon!) cost, that's a lot of money.

Money that could be better spent on educational needs, not fixing mistakes made by incompetent administrators.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: dk8.com ()
Date: August 03, 2016 09:07AM

So where is the rest of the opinion letter? I am only able to pull up one page. Post the whole thing, please.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: vote no on the meals tax ()
Date: August 03, 2016 09:39AM

dk8.com Wrote:
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> So where is the rest of the opinion letter? I am
> only able to pull up one page. Post the whole
> thing, please.

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/courts/circuit/pdf/opinions/cl-2013-10932-j-flinn-v-fairfax-co-school-bd.pdf

FCPS is irresponsible. They hire a felon, then decide to fire the felon. The whole thing ends up in court, and an outside law firm makes a lot of money.

Mark your calendar, and be sure to vote NO on the meals tax on November 8th!

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: dk8.com ()
Date: August 03, 2016 09:50AM

So what does her 2013 pardon have to do with this? I am still digesting all this and have to run.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: The Bottom Line ()
Date: August 03, 2016 10:01AM

dk8.com Wrote:
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> So what does her 2013 pardon have to do with this?
> I am still digesting all this and have to run.

FCPS hired a felon (possible mistake, unless it could be shown that there were just NO applicants for the job). Then, because of her conviction, FCPS decided to fire her (mistake, if nothing else, FCPS can't decide what it wants to do).

The result was litigation. Instead of coming to terms with Ms. Flinn, FCPS went all the way to court (usually a lose-lose proposition for everyone except the lawyers). FCPS spent a lot of money on an outside law firm. If FCPS were better run, this debacle could have been avoided.

FCPS acts like this because it can. Well, guess what, it can't any more. FCPS is unwilling to accept this, so they pressured the Board of Supervisors into putting the meals tax on the ballot. If the tax passes, the money will not be used to improve test scores (which are declining).

The money will be used for various social initiatives (e.g., transgender bathrooms and changing facilities), meals and travel for administrators and school board members, and retaining well marketed consultants with dubious qualifications and, in many cases, no history WHATSOEVER of producing measurable results.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: KISS-------- ()
Date: August 03, 2016 10:44AM

vote no on the meals tax Wrote:
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> dk8.com Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So where is the rest of the opinion letter? I
> am
> > only able to pull up one page. Post the whole
> > thing, please.
>
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/courts/circuit/pdf/op
> inions/cl-2013-10932-j-flinn-v-fairfax-co-school-b
> d.pdf
>
> FCPS is irresponsible. They hire a felon, then
> decide to fire the felon. The whole thing ends up
> in court, and an outside law firm makes a lot of
> money.
>
> Mark your calendar, and be sure to vote NO on the
> meals tax on November 8th!

What exactly was accomplished with this? Somebody put it in a nutshell. The Bottom Line started to, then wandered off.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: HireFireWhat ()
Date: August 03, 2016 10:50AM

Why does it matter if they hired a felon for the job? The entire point of disclosing a conviction and explaining or adjudicating it is for this exact purpose. There's nothing to say she can't be trusted now or that what she did puts the county at risk. Sounds like she did something dumb with credit cards in 2003 and then five years later wants to work as a substitute teacher. Someone reviewed her instance and decided her story was compelling enough to hire her.

If she had been convicted of molesting a child or something I would take fault with the hire. The stupid thing here is the rejection, overruling then hiring, and then firing. Other than back in 2003 it sounds like she did nothing wrong..then again I am just reading part of a shitty screen shot. There isn't some universal law that a person without a conviction jumps ahead to be hired over someone who does not. It's about qualifications and the fit.

hashtag fail?

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: this is what happened ()
Date: August 03, 2016 10:51AM

FCPS hired a felon (possible mistake, unless it could be shown that there were just NO applicants for the job). Then, because of her conviction, FCPS decided to fire her (mistake, if nothing else, FCPS can't decide what it wants to do).

The result was litigation. Instead of coming to terms with Ms. Flinn, FCPS went all the way to court (usually a lose-lose proposition for everyone except the lawyers). FCPS spent a lot of money on an outside law firm. If FCPS were better run, this debacle could have been avoided.

Summary: FCPS mismanagement caused a lot of money to be wasted for no good reason. If FCPS had refused to hire the felon, this would not have happened.

What was accomplished (making the point) is that FCPS flushed money down the drain.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: DoesntHoldWater ()
Date: August 03, 2016 11:26AM

this is what happened Wrote:
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> FCPS hired a felon (possible mistake, unless it
> could be shown that there were just NO applicants
> for the job). Then, because of her conviction,
> FCPS decided to fire her (mistake, if nothing
> else, FCPS can't decide what it wants to do).
>
> The result was litigation. Instead of coming to
> terms with Ms. Flinn, FCPS went all the way to
> court (usually a lose-lose proposition for
> everyone except the lawyers). FCPS spent a lot of
> money on an outside law firm. If FCPS were better
> run, this debacle could have been avoided.
>
> Summary: FCPS mismanagement caused a lot of money
> to be wasted for no good reason. If FCPS had
> refused to hire the felon, this would not have
> happened.
>
> What was accomplished (making the point) is that
> FCPS flushed money down the drain.


This argument still doesn't hold water. The issue at hand is a wrongful termination. You can always find some reason to say an issue wouldn't have come up if X. The problem is, as I understand it, that they fired her for something they knew about and already accepted. She didn't do anything else wrong and should not have been terminated. Going back and just saying they should have never hired her in the first place would have avoided this issue .. while technically true .. is an ignorant way of looking at it.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: THE POINT IS MOOT ()
Date: August 03, 2016 11:29AM

For whatever reason, FCPS took a simple matter of hiring, and blew it up into a lawsuit, and an expensive one.

The issue is not FCPS hiring practices, but their general ineptitude. They use a very expensive law firm, and I'm sure their bungling results in many unnecessary hours having to be billed. But FCPS does not care, they just won't give the teachers a raise when the time comes to cut the check to the lawyers!

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: YmNDd ()
Date: August 03, 2016 10:19PM


they alrready have lawyers dick wad

one of them is called the Attorney General of Fairfax County Government


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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: legal directory ()
Date: August 04, 2016 09:32AM

YmNDd Wrote:
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>
> they alrready have lawyers dick wad
>
> one of them is called the Attorney General of
> Fairfax County Government
>

Say what you will, but the record is clear-they hire outside counsel, among them an undistinguished, but expensive firm-Hunton and Williams.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: Edward Teach ()
Date: August 04, 2016 01:15PM

Hey, Furfux county hired me and I'm a vicious pirate.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: jYeNk ()
Date: August 04, 2016 02:17PM

dk8.com Wrote:
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> So what does her 2013 pardon have to do with this?
> I am still digesting all this and have to run.


"...and have the runs"

Corrected.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: Adfvjcrggb ()
Date: January 16, 2019 06:45PM

What her pardon had to do with it was they promised her she could have her job back if she got a pardon. She did and they changed their minds

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: ecjvp ()
Date: January 16, 2019 08:44PM


#1 it's not true upstanding italian businessman want their cherished (daughter) instructed by felons. they want their kids "raised right" and no political toppings at all.

#2 Jessica Flinn IS BEING ROBBED. they took her money - ALLOT OF IT - for certification, now they say they're ignoring the papers they sold her and without refundd


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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: uevhw ()
Date: January 16, 2019 08:46PM

they want happy kids who cry a little about doing homework

not kids coming home crying that their school is a prison and paranoid of their parents

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: January 16, 2019 11:03PM

THE POINT IS MOOT Wrote:
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> For whatever reason, FCPS took a simple matter of
> hiring, and blew it up into a lawsuit, and an
> expensive one.
>
> The issue is not FCPS hiring practices, but their
> general ineptitude. They use a very expensive law
> firm, and I'm sure their bungling results in many
> unnecessary hours having to be billed. But FCPS
> does not care, they just won't give the teachers a
> raise when the time comes to cut the check to the
> lawyers!

^ sums it up precisely

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: ecjvp ()
Date: January 17, 2019 12:42PM

i was already precise

GIVE THE MONEY BACK GERRY2 - YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TEACHING, TAXING, OR EVEN IN THE COUNTRY

take a woman's money for certs you refuse to honor is theft

hiring a woman as a teacher of children who has shown she has poor self control and moral standards

yes FCPS hiring practices have turned up ALLOT OF ARRESTS and their pay sheets are outrageous (not just fcps - teacher and college pay nation wide has gone wild - up to the million dollar a year range for principles of state run schools)

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: dm7mp ()
Date: January 17, 2019 12:44PM

the problem is, OP, you can highlight cases to idiots all day and nothing will be done

the pay will keep going up

the same "loose behind the scene policy" will keep going on

they are communist and communist means top down power and if you object a police person drags you out of a meeting and puts you in prison and, in most cases, wtop and wmal insure no news of the even ever is heard by people who might want to save you

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: bvgkk ()
Date: January 17, 2019 12:47PM

is it possible a woman who has one charge of cc fraud can be a good teacher?

sure

but why people like me or OP complain is the SIX BILLION A YEAR DEBT and the issue this kind of thing is the result. the case itself is a nothingburger. it's the pay she'd receive, the power over children and parents (to call police on parents), etc.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: Itdoesntimprove ()
Date: January 17, 2019 01:40PM

No more money for FCPS!

Why don’t they fix the shitty situations they cause before they go to court? Clearly they can’t stop doing dumb ass things in the first place.

There’s a BIG problem about to explode at Lake Braddock again and worse than this story. How many retarded mistakes can they make?

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: YouAreTruelyADumbass ()
Date: January 17, 2019 10:11PM

This doesn’t mean shit.

If she was hired as a substitute then anyone who works at a school in FCPS can tell you there is and has been a massive shortage of substitute teachers for the past 8+ years. This leads to classrooms being babysat by non teachers, usually instructional assistants which follow mediocre sub plans made by the teacher. You can compare it to kindergarteners coloring in a coloring book. That’s the type of educational day they get.

Seeing as there is only about 2 times a year all teachers are present and the fact that FCPS did away with retired teacher sub pay, including slashing the hourly wage for a regular substitute teachers pay to barely above McDonald’s pay rate. That’s probably why she was hired, matter of fact, if she was hired as a Sub then that is exactly why she was hired. They’d rather drive to prince William, Loudoun, Alexandria city, or Arlington to substitute and get paid more.

This is all due to lack of funds from the county and budget cutting. You should stop bitching about how your kids should get educated if you voted No on the restaurant tax. If you live in fairfax then you shouldn’t complain about paying a little more. That barely 2000sq ft house you own is worth almost a million dollars and when you look out the window you can see inside your neighbors asshole. 2 counties away that house is barely worth 200k and comes with 2-5 acres. Move your silver spoon ass if your going to be a sticker. Vote Yes

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: Exactly!! ()
Date: January 18, 2019 02:26PM

YouAreTruelyADumbass Wrote:
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> This doesn’t mean shit.
>
> If she was hired as a substitute then anyone who
> works at a school in FCPS can tell you there is
> and has been a massive shortage of substitute
> teachers for the past 8+ years. This leads to
> classrooms being babysat by non teachers, usually
> instructional assistants which follow mediocre sub
> plans made by the teacher. You can compare it to
> kindergarteners coloring in a coloring book.
> That’s the type of educational day they get.
>
> Seeing as there is only about 2 times a year all
> teachers are present and the fact that FCPS did
> away with retired teacher sub pay, including
> slashing the hourly wage for a regular substitute
> teachers pay to barely above McDonald’s pay
> rate. That’s probably why she was hired, matter
> of fact, if she was hired as a Sub then that is
> exactly why she was hired. They’d rather drive
> to prince William, Loudoun, Alexandria city, or
> Arlington to substitute and get paid more.
>
> This is all due to lack of funds from the county
> and budget cutting. You should stop bitching
> about how your kids should get educated if you
> voted No on the restaurant tax. If you live in
> fairfax then you shouldn’t complain about paying
> a little more. That barely 2000sq ft house you
> own is worth almost a million dollars and when you
> look out the window you can see inside your
> neighbors asshole. 2 counties away that house is
> barely worth 200k and comes with 2-5 acres. Move
> your silver spoon ass if your going to be a
> sticker. Vote Yes


This is exactly right. Most of the substitutes don't speak English well and have zero classroom experience. Retired teachers and the few subs who are good at the job get booked months in advance and are never available for last-minute emergencies. The IAs are usually nice people but it's not their job to fill in for teachers on a regular basis, and when they do, it usually means kids who are supposed to get services for SpEd get overlooked. FCPS brought this on themselves when they cut the retired teacher pay a couple years ago, and they continue to make it worse by paying less than $100/ day for anyone with a degree. All the surrounding counties and private schools pay more for qualified people and have a better substitute pool as a result. The county has done at least one survey on this recently and basically ignored all the input from teachers. The FEA did a huge survey and got some very worrisome feedback about the quality of substitutes, which was also ignored by the School Board. I'm surprised more parents haven't been very vocal about their concerns.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: RawIncompetence ()
Date: January 19, 2019 12:41AM

Stupid moves cost money in lawsuits.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: bbwpv ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:00PM


I want to strangle the Judge.

He ruled against her and in the 2nd to last paragraph stated:

"I, the judge, do not have jurisdiction to rule in the matter of Virginia code"*



* a deferral would necessarily meant it was a matter of State law, and if that's true he has absolutely no right to make ANY ruling

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: t9fku ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:04PM

i at least found a controversy:

MONEY. they billed her for a certificate as the only viable source for offering one, then called the certificate defunct AFTER she paid and had performed actions.

the government can deny her employment but cannot cite both that she owes for a certificate only gov is allowed to sell then also rule that the certificate is invalid before sale.

money talks bullshit walks

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: tjbpp ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:08PM

S 22.1-296. Payment of employees; reimbursement for private transportation; certain sick leave policies.
A. Each school board shall provide for the payment of teachers, principals, assistant principals and other employees monthly, semi-monthly or biweekly, as may be determined by the school board.

(the judge says the school board in his area is not in his jurisdiction. obviously he's a lia)

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: uefhn ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:15PM

if i get the case right she was (or is) a substitute who wanted a FT position

she can be denied employment "for any reason" says the democrat judge (such as, he's helping the area be taken over by mexico and will employ an illegal alien who votes democrat? i think so. i insist that's who he his - because he's participated in it thus can't say that isn't who he/she is.)

that's true in "right to work" virginia

what isn't true is the state can bypass any other laws (descrimination, hiring practices, honoring that only gov offers such a cert and demands money up front, etc)

THE PLAINTIFF RECEIVED A PARDON FROM THE GOVERNOR FOR THE 2000 INCIDENT from governor mc'donell

that DOES mean that the school citing this as a reason is improper - even if the reason is not actionable

BACK TO MONEY. she isn't "owed a ft job" because she applied, shouldn't be fired from a "sub" job because the governor already ruled

and if her certificate is "declared" null by the people who sold it to her: she should get her money back

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: yeckh ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:17PM

law case no. cl-2013-10932 fairfax county virginia

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: uyuhv ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:20PM

while i all the issue mute, the judge lied about S 22.1-296 being a duty of the school board alone

the county is charter of the state and the school charter of the county: the money is not supposed to be borrowed (and to be paid if it is).

IT'S SIMPLY NO TRUE that the actions of a school board is "not a Judge's problem" where the school is within his courthouses charter.

becaues the judge rules for virginia not under authority of the county, yet also the judge cannot rule in matters that challenge state law: that must be deferred to state courts

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: kfxtc ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:22PM

the judge is not a statutory interpretation judge of the supreme court of virginia

perhaps he should have called up on them to answer the question

"what does pay employee on time" mean?

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: dynwb ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:30PM


Finally, my opinion is the judge is a total DOLT

The employer, finding the governor had pardoned, should not have taken action against a person they had already employed and who was (is) in good standing (and were she not in good standing you think or demand they would have said so)

The employer has some duty to "not go back on their words", as she could and likely did assume they hired her knowing of any RELEVANT history.

The employer owes a duty not to transgress the Governor's past ruling

While the employer has Virginia rights to hire and fire: they initiated a mute investigation and acted upon it in error: but refused to admit error.

The school board should be pulled into court and asked why it is they cannot do simple reasoning and why once simple reasoning is provided if they believe they do not owe any homage to it.



The employer went back on their words - and perhaps with a racial motive of replacing prosecution with an illegal alien handed a green card - i will add.

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: txgg4 ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:33PM

"judgement must be made with extereme caution"

WELL APPARENTLY NOT JUDGE

BGECAUE FX CO GOV COURTHOUSE HAS been ruling in favor of democrats, hiring illegal immigrants, allowing nepatism

the courthouse has NO credibility

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: jbj9w ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:40PM

despite the judge's claim no controversy was presented (which is a lie, an action is presented and it's legality is disputed)

i found both an action and a legal controversy: a Governor's past ruling the judge ignored

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: fhkjc ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:44PM

S 22.1-305. Nonrenewal of contract of probationary teacher.

we do not have any such assessment, meanin gthe school board did not do it's duty as specified in virginia law

(not that i want to hear it, because i insisted had there been such a matter it would be before or along the claim the defendant's status was the reason)

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: lmywm ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:45PM

i'll complain about FCPS pay

this matter i'll call a nothing burger - just some democrats on school board trying their hardest to get away with the crime of racial hiring

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: lmywm ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:46PM

the crime of racial hiring and firing, with a democrat judge helping them

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: lfxbb ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:47PM

behind this long twisted opinion that ignore facts and rules in favor of democrats in power: are motives, firm motives

motives i have and intend to continue to prosecute

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: 7vcvg ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:49PM


with a governor's pardon she should be able to ...

remove the mark off her application retroactively

and insist upon re-instatement upon the grounds the board already agreed to re-instatement were it not for the "mark"

which the board did say, that the mark was the reason


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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: xwvfw ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:52PM

Ms(s) Flinn does not OWE to report pardon'ed events in her past life

infact i saw no clear case number of what this event was (i saw citations for and against her case - but none that were clearly marked as a past case lodged against her)

the defendant did not even provide evidence she was in the past convicted of moral mis-behavior

(i am to assume without that, that though there may have been debt and some chapter agreement not finished with it, that there was no intent to "deceive" proven by any Court)

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: jwvn3 ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:53PM

the ammount of wordiness i find completely in-appropriate

the judge should have, as a master of debate, found the relevant legal pinions, prevented any talk and law beside the point, and come to a quick and completely correct decision in minutes that both parties could not deny was the law well done

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: ey3tm ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:54PM

impertinence is COSTLY at law

it is meant to be prevented

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: wp7vl ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:56PM

oppositely i see a conviction by defendants she was convicted where they don't show she was when asked'

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: wjkny ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:56PM

with a governor's pardon she should be able to ...

remove the mark off her application retroactively

and insist upon re-instatement upon the grounds the board already agreed to re-instatement were it not for the "mark"

which the board did say, that the mark was the reason

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: bvjxl ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:59PM

judges do not "owe" opinions (a point i won't dispute at the moment)

it was a very long opinion from someone who doesn't owe one, long but un-cited (as to the girl's past record) and incorrect besides (admitting a governor already ruled on her past case)

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: vjcye ()
Date: January 19, 2019 03:07PM

"on that form she admitted felony credit fraud"

here i have a problem of the defendant listing their own interpretation of a past case that is not cited the governor pardoned

today's laws are not like yesterdays: i could look and find a believable action such as "used a credit card during divorce" or even "failed to pay off her credit" and find it's an "auto felony" under today's every growing and self conflictiong laws

i refuse to believe Flyinn should be construed to have committed an act that others should be "EVER WATCHFUL OF" without knowing exactly the act and proof it was both amoral and intentional and guess what: that such an act would be one that is considered to follow one for a lifetime

(some thefts like break-ins might, but others might not - such as being outside a creditor's or husband's agreement)

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: bdtch ()
Date: January 19, 2019 03:14PM

immoral acts are not to be punished past their worth, is the law: that law is only to measure. saying "all immoral acts are the same" is not the statutory interpretation, is my point.

additionally: Scott's law (a king rambling daily on paper with self conflicting statements to get his current wishes acted upon) is illegal and floods legal books with trash and self confliction

more doesn't mean better, and infact is illegal. scott's law is illegal in equity law courts

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: r43gtgrfe ()
Date: January 19, 2019 03:19PM


now the "check box" in question was in another County, so the idea that fx co had any idea about it is wrong

THEY ACTED ON A CHECK BOX, AND THAT'S FUNNY

"rulership by check box"

yet they very likely had a motive: a panel composed completely of democrats including a: NAACP lawyer with a record of anti-white behavior


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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: d4vju ()
Date: January 19, 2019 03:32PM

a25106cbb8bfd98059b093c8ad3ea5fb--white-

all moral turpitude are checkbox the same?

"all the same, all the same, all the same, why don't you take me to they sky? rhiannon"

(i recently read the lyrics - could never make them out on the radio when i was a kid, mostly)

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: d4vju ()
Date: January 19, 2019 03:35PM

i listened to rock like a kid but couldn't make out most of the words

later i looked up some lyrics of various rock songs

many shocked me, some enlightened me, others still appear senseless!

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: 7jbmh ()
Date: January 19, 2019 04:50PM

i forgot to emphasize that the judge is wrong on another fact

the woman was not "applying for employment". she was already a "government worker" who are "supposedly difficult to fire"

she was up for re-instatement not applying for work. she was also not being fired or layed off (neither of those were mentioned).

the judge in citations were incorrect because they were not similar to the case being discussed

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Re: FCPS hires felon, ends up paying lawyers
Posted by: 7jbmh ()
Date: January 19, 2019 04:52PM

i could argue given FCPS pay levels they should be as easy to fire as anyone else however - that's farther afield and cannot be used here anyhow

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