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Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Cluster F
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Date: August 14, 2009 01:38PM
Well leave it to the county to shrink a four lane road to one lane. Yes, that's correct, Lawyers road was four lanes and is now one lane permanant.
The idea is to slow down traffic and make the road safer. There is one wide lane with a small shoulder and now a middle turn lane in place of the 2 and 3 lanes.
That wokrs great if you are making a left turn because then you have lane to turn in in, but if you are making a right turn then be prepared to get rear ended by a car going 45 mph without a lane to pass in.
This is a complete cluster fuck!
The idea is to slow down traffic and make the road safer. There is one wide lane with a small shoulder and now a middle turn lane in place of the 2 and 3 lanes.
That wokrs great if you are making a left turn because then you have lane to turn in in, but if you are making a right turn then be prepared to get rear ended by a car going 45 mph without a lane to pass in.
This is a complete cluster fuck!
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Mr. Gridlock
()
Date: August 14, 2009 01:43PM
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: August 14, 2009 01:56PM
Cluster F Wrote:
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> Well leave it to the county to shrink a four lane
> road to one lane. Yes, that's correct, Lawyers
> road was four lanes and is now one lane permanant.
They shrunk a 4-lane road to three vehicle lanes and two bike lanes. Saying it went from four to one is dumb.
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> Well leave it to the county to shrink a four lane
> road to one lane. Yes, that's correct, Lawyers
> road was four lanes and is now one lane permanant.
They shrunk a 4-lane road to three vehicle lanes and two bike lanes. Saying it went from four to one is dumb.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: August 14, 2009 02:24PM
Thats stupid.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Lurker.
()
Date: August 14, 2009 03:17PM
Bicycler + Lives on Lawyers Rd + Works for VDOT = New bicycle lane on Lawyers Rd.
Personally I wouldn't be caught dead cycling 1 foot from cars going 45mph or let any kids use that bicycle lane. Also that 2 mile strech of Lawyers road has a bad turn that high school kids love to challenge. The turn grade slopes out so many of them end up in the woods or cement ditch flipped over. Wait until some high school kid takes that newly slick smooth turn being forced to stay in the outside lane... hello car in house!
Personally I wouldn't be caught dead cycling 1 foot from cars going 45mph or let any kids use that bicycle lane. Also that 2 mile strech of Lawyers road has a bad turn that high school kids love to challenge. The turn grade slopes out so many of them end up in the woods or cement ditch flipped over. Wait until some high school kid takes that newly slick smooth turn being forced to stay in the outside lane... hello car in house!
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Cindi K
()
Date: August 14, 2009 03:26PM
"VDOT has identified a no-cost approach to reduce vehicle crashes and improve safety on Lawyers Road, while also giving cyclists additional travel options," says Fairfax County Supervisor Cathy Hudgins (D-Hunter Mill). "It's a win-win for all."
"This is one of the first opportunities we have had in northern Virginia to do this," says McCord.
"This is one of the first opportunities we have had in northern Virginia to do this," says McCord.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
KeepOnTruckin
()
Date: August 14, 2009 04:06PM
Cindi K Wrote:
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> "VDOT has identified a no-cost approach to reduce
> vehicle crashes and improve safety on Lawyers
> Road, while also giving cyclists additional travel
> options," says Fairfax County Supervisor Cathy
> Hudgins (D-Hunter Mill). "It's a win-win for all."
>
Except anyone who drives on the road between 7 and 10 am or 3 and 8 pm
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> "VDOT has identified a no-cost approach to reduce
> vehicle crashes and improve safety on Lawyers
> Road, while also giving cyclists additional travel
> options," says Fairfax County Supervisor Cathy
> Hudgins (D-Hunter Mill). "It's a win-win for all."
>
Except anyone who drives on the road between 7 and 10 am or 3 and 8 pm
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
lawyers rd driver
()
Date: August 14, 2009 04:42PM
Once again an elected official who knows what's best for her constitents. How often does Cathy drive this road? Has she spoken to any of us who drive it daily?
This is not a "win-win" for anyone!!!!
This is not a "win-win" for anyone!!!!
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
LNE
()
Date: August 14, 2009 05:23PM
Really, there can't be any more accidents on this road than there already were. Get over the drama. This just gives the type A's something to complain about and gives them a reason to tailgate the rest of us. If your in that much of a hurry get on 267 where the limit is 55.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
-,SBS-
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Date: August 14, 2009 07:19PM
You have, well had, a better chance of doing 55 on Lawyers Rd. than you do on 267.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Thomas More
()
Date: August 14, 2009 07:22PM
lawyers rd driver Wrote:
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> > Once again an elected official who knows what's best for her constitents. How often does Cathy drive this road? Has she spoken to any of us who drive it daily?< <
Supervisor Hudgins had a meeting this spring at Langston Hughes on this issue. Though I disagree with the decision, the case in favor was reasonable saying it will reduce rear-ending accidents of folks making left turns from the passing lane of which there have been no more than 8 in the last 2 years.
The bike advocates were very happy with the bike lanes.
My opposition is based on the experience of too many highway authorities that turn lanes on the centerline of a highway become "suicide lanes" as the impatient use them to pass slower traffic and crash head-on/rear-end into folks properly using the lane to make left turns.
We'll see.
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> > Once again an elected official who knows what's best for her constitents. How often does Cathy drive this road? Has she spoken to any of us who drive it daily?< <
Supervisor Hudgins had a meeting this spring at Langston Hughes on this issue. Though I disagree with the decision, the case in favor was reasonable saying it will reduce rear-ending accidents of folks making left turns from the passing lane of which there have been no more than 8 in the last 2 years.
The bike advocates were very happy with the bike lanes.
My opposition is based on the experience of too many highway authorities that turn lanes on the centerline of a highway become "suicide lanes" as the impatient use them to pass slower traffic and crash head-on/rear-end into folks properly using the lane to make left turns.
We'll see.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
KeepOnTruckin
()
Date: August 14, 2009 07:37PM
Rt 28 thru manassas had a similar original configuration between Liberia and Business 234: 2 thru lanes and a 3 foot paved section seperating the oncoming traffic. They fixed it properly tho and made a center turn lane by relocating the sidewalk so there are 5 total lanes and 2 sidewalks. That of course costs a few bucks and Fairfax is cheap
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Thurston Moore
()
Date: August 14, 2009 11:56PM
Cindi K Wrote:
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> "VDOT has identified a no-cost approach to reduce
I guess the paint was free and they're going to use prisoners to paint the new lane markings?
Shit, even that still has costs. The fuel for all the vehicles to get the supplies and workers to the site, all the signs redirecting traffic during the work, etc.
Is it the politicians or the people who believe them who are stupid? "no cost approach" sounds great when they're giving a speech in front of a bunch of local reporters, but it doesn't make any fucking sense.
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> "VDOT has identified a no-cost approach to reduce
I guess the paint was free and they're going to use prisoners to paint the new lane markings?
Shit, even that still has costs. The fuel for all the vehicles to get the supplies and workers to the site, all the signs redirecting traffic during the work, etc.
Is it the politicians or the people who believe them who are stupid? "no cost approach" sounds great when they're giving a speech in front of a bunch of local reporters, but it doesn't make any fucking sense.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 15, 2009 12:04AM
Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> Cindi K Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "VDOT has identified a no-cost approach to
> reduce
>
>
> I guess the paint was free and they're going to
> use prisoners to paint the new lane markings?
>
> Shit, even that still has costs. The fuel for all
> the vehicles to get the supplies and workers to
> the site, all the signs redirecting traffic during
> the work, etc.
>
> Is it the politicians or the people who believe
> them who are stupid? "no cost approach" sounds
> great when they're giving a speech in front of a
> bunch of local reporters, but it doesn't make any
> fucking sense.
It means that it will not cost any more than the previously planned resurfacing and painting. Alas, politician-speak leaves much to be desired...
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> Cindi K Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "VDOT has identified a no-cost approach to
> reduce
>
>
> I guess the paint was free and they're going to
> use prisoners to paint the new lane markings?
>
> Shit, even that still has costs. The fuel for all
> the vehicles to get the supplies and workers to
> the site, all the signs redirecting traffic during
> the work, etc.
>
> Is it the politicians or the people who believe
> them who are stupid? "no cost approach" sounds
> great when they're giving a speech in front of a
> bunch of local reporters, but it doesn't make any
> fucking sense.
It means that it will not cost any more than the previously planned resurfacing and painting. Alas, politician-speak leaves much to be desired...
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
what
()
Date: August 15, 2009 12:58AM
Where exactly on Lawyers road are the doing this? I don't remember there ever being more than 2 lanes on Lawyers.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Thurston Moore
()
Date: August 15, 2009 03:25AM
what Wrote:
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> Where exactly on Lawyers road are the doing this?
> I don't remember there ever being more than 2
> lanes on Lawyers.
The stretch between Hunter Mill and Reston Parkway.
I hope I'm right, I haven't been down that stretch in over 15 years, but if I recall, that is the only part of Lawyers with 4 lanes.
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> Where exactly on Lawyers road are the doing this?
> I don't remember there ever being more than 2
> lanes on Lawyers.
The stretch between Hunter Mill and Reston Parkway.
I hope I'm right, I haven't been down that stretch in over 15 years, but if I recall, that is the only part of Lawyers with 4 lanes.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Thurston Moore
()
Date: August 15, 2009 03:30AM
Berdhuis Wrote:
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> It means that it will not cost any more than the
> previously planned resurfacing and painting. Alas,
> politician-speak leaves much to be desired...
I get what you're saying, but no, it shouldn't mean that.
no cost should mean that there are NO COSTS. Once there's a cost involved, shifting the plan to another plan doesn't make it "no cost". It just makes it "zero sum" from the previous plan.
But I suppose these politician folks realize that they have to speak in the lowest common denominator terms to what they believe (and I'm beginning to agree) is a very stupid voting population.
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> It means that it will not cost any more than the
> previously planned resurfacing and painting. Alas,
> politician-speak leaves much to be desired...
I get what you're saying, but no, it shouldn't mean that.
no cost should mean that there are NO COSTS. Once there's a cost involved, shifting the plan to another plan doesn't make it "no cost". It just makes it "zero sum" from the previous plan.
But I suppose these politician folks realize that they have to speak in the lowest common denominator terms to what they believe (and I'm beginning to agree) is a very stupid voting population.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: August 15, 2009 03:50AM
whoever came up with this idea needs to be bludgeoned to death with the handlebars from a bike.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Thurston Moore
()
Date: August 15, 2009 04:31AM
Gravis Wrote:
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> whoever came up with this idea needs to be
> bludgeoned to death with the handlebars from a
> bike.
Be careful, there's a troll threatening to call the police on you.
Let's mastermind a plot to kill that troll. That should really get the cops all worked up and ready to muster a raiding party on our homes to seize our computers and arrest us.
oh shit, did I just cross that imaginary line and became a criminal?
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> whoever came up with this idea needs to be
> bludgeoned to death with the handlebars from a
> bike.
Be careful, there's a troll threatening to call the police on you.
Let's mastermind a plot to kill that troll. That should really get the cops all worked up and ready to muster a raiding party on our homes to seize our computers and arrest us.
oh shit, did I just cross that imaginary line and became a criminal?
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
-,SBS-
()
Date: August 15, 2009 11:09AM
Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> what Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where exactly on Lawyers road are the doing this?
> > I don't remember there ever being more than 2
> > lanes on Lawyers.
>
>
> The stretch between Hunter Mill and Reston
> Parkway.
>
> I hope I'm right, I haven't been down that stretch
> in over 15 years, but if I recall, that is the
> only part of Lawyers with 4 lanes.
Only part of it was 4-lane. Roughly half of that stretch on the Reston Pkwy end.
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> what Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where exactly on Lawyers road are the doing this?
> > I don't remember there ever being more than 2
> > lanes on Lawyers.
>
>
> The stretch between Hunter Mill and Reston
> Parkway.
>
> I hope I'm right, I haven't been down that stretch
> in over 15 years, but if I recall, that is the
> only part of Lawyers with 4 lanes.
Only part of it was 4-lane. Roughly half of that stretch on the Reston Pkwy end.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Cindi K
()
Date: August 15, 2009 05:00PM
Maybe next they'll make all interesctions on Lawyers circles
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Lester
()
Date: August 16, 2009 08:05PM
Saw one nice accident with a car off in the woods on this stretch last night.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: August 17, 2009 12:10AM
-,SBS- Wrote:
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> Thurston Moore Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > what Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Where exactly on Lawyers road are the doing
> this?
> > > I don't remember there ever being more than 2
> > > lanes on Lawyers.
> >
> >
> > The stretch between Hunter Mill and Reston
> > Parkway.
> >
> > I hope I'm right, I haven't been down that
> stretch
> > in over 15 years, but if I recall, that is the
> > only part of Lawyers with 4 lanes.
>
> Only part of it was 4-lane. Roughly half of that
> stretch on the Reston Pkwy end.
West of Twin Branches is 4 lane at one point (near Glade?). Between Twin Branches and Hunter Mill it is certainly 1 lane each way.
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> Thurston Moore Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > what Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Where exactly on Lawyers road are the doing
> this?
> > > I don't remember there ever being more than 2
> > > lanes on Lawyers.
> >
> >
> > The stretch between Hunter Mill and Reston
> > Parkway.
> >
> > I hope I'm right, I haven't been down that
> stretch
> > in over 15 years, but if I recall, that is the
> > only part of Lawyers with 4 lanes.
>
> Only part of it was 4-lane. Roughly half of that
> stretch on the Reston Pkwy end.
West of Twin Branches is 4 lane at one point (near Glade?). Between Twin Branches and Hunter Mill it is certainly 1 lane each way.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Cindi K
()
Date: August 17, 2009 09:23AM
There are black tire marks all over this section of lawyer today. Looks like a couple of accidents. One looks like the car spun around a couple of times then went into the woods.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Ohwatdarrows4?
()
Date: August 17, 2009 11:31PM
Cindi K Wrote:
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> There are black tire marks all over this section
> of lawyer today. Looks like a couple of
> accidents. One looks like the car spun around a
> couple of times then went into the woods.
Probably some moron who didn't pull in to the turn lane to make a turn. Either a fresh crop of asian drivers have started taking the "new" Lawyers or people are just complete idiots. The turn lane is for you dummies to pull into to make a turn. Stop making your turns from the on-going "moving" traffic lane. sheeezz
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> There are black tire marks all over this section
> of lawyer today. Looks like a couple of
> accidents. One looks like the car spun around a
> couple of times then went into the woods.
Probably some moron who didn't pull in to the turn lane to make a turn. Either a fresh crop of asian drivers have started taking the "new" Lawyers or people are just complete idiots. The turn lane is for you dummies to pull into to make a turn. Stop making your turns from the on-going "moving" traffic lane. sheeezz
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
.
()
Date: August 20, 2009 08:28AM
I saw some bicyclist last night riding in the car travel lane. I'm glad to see the outcome of this project being used properly.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Paintstains
()
Date: August 20, 2009 01:41PM
. Wrote:
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> I saw some bicyclist last night riding in the car
> travel lane. I'm glad to see the outcome of this
> project being used properly.
Today they are painting little bicycle pictures on the bike lanes. Tomorrow they are painting little car, truck and motorcycle pictures on the car lanes. This will clear everything up for all.
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> I saw some bicyclist last night riding in the car
> travel lane. I'm glad to see the outcome of this
> project being used properly.
Today they are painting little bicycle pictures on the bike lanes. Tomorrow they are painting little car, truck and motorcycle pictures on the car lanes. This will clear everything up for all.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 20, 2009 02:12PM
Paintstains Wrote:
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> . Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I saw some bicyclist last night riding in the
> car
> > travel lane. I'm glad to see the outcome of
> this
> > project being used properly.
>
>
> Today they are painting little bicycle pictures on
> the bike lanes. Tomorrow they are painting little
> car, truck and motorcycle pictures on the car
> lanes. This will clear everything up for all.
Everyone knows that the insensitive government doesn't build bike paths to the same specifications as car paths. Bike paths have like, 2 to 3 times more road-vibration-related micro-impacts than standard roads. If you don't believe me, try riding your bike on the bike path for 7 hours, and the car path for 7 hours, and see which one leaves you more fatigued at the end.
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> . Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I saw some bicyclist last night riding in the
> car
> > travel lane. I'm glad to see the outcome of
> this
> > project being used properly.
>
>
> Today they are painting little bicycle pictures on
> the bike lanes. Tomorrow they are painting little
> car, truck and motorcycle pictures on the car
> lanes. This will clear everything up for all.
Everyone knows that the insensitive government doesn't build bike paths to the same specifications as car paths. Bike paths have like, 2 to 3 times more road-vibration-related micro-impacts than standard roads. If you don't believe me, try riding your bike on the bike path for 7 hours, and the car path for 7 hours, and see which one leaves you more fatigued at the end.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
.
()
Date: August 20, 2009 02:15PM
Why not just leave the road the way it was then? Cyclists are still going to use the car path, so why not leave more room for the cars to pass them?
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 20, 2009 02:24PM
. Wrote:
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> Why not just leave the road the way it was then?
> Cyclists are still going to use the car path, so
> why not leave more room for the cars to pass them?
BECAUSE CYCLISTS ARE HELPING THE ENVIRONMENT, AND THE GODDAMN LAWS SAY YOU HAVE TO SHARE THE ROAD. SO SHARE THE ROAD, I MEAN IT, OR I WILL CRY AND KICK MY FEET AND POUND MY FISTS ON THE BIKE PATH IN MY HOT PINK AND LIME GREEN SPANDEX RACING SUIT, FAGOT
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
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> Why not just leave the road the way it was then?
> Cyclists are still going to use the car path, so
> why not leave more room for the cars to pass them?
BECAUSE CYCLISTS ARE HELPING THE ENVIRONMENT, AND THE GODDAMN LAWS SAY YOU HAVE TO SHARE THE ROAD. SO SHARE THE ROAD, I MEAN IT, OR I WILL CRY AND KICK MY FEET AND POUND MY FISTS ON THE BIKE PATH IN MY HOT PINK AND LIME GREEN SPANDEX RACING SUIT, FAGOT
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
hop
()
Date: August 20, 2009 02:25PM
adding bike lanes was an afterthought, not the reason it was done... they didn't know what to do with the extra space.... besides the bike lanes don't go anywhere they just end when the road narrows... watch for u-turns
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: August 20, 2009 03:32PM
When will they start painting the chalk outlines of the dead bodies?
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
extra space?
()
Date: August 20, 2009 03:54PM
what extra space? there's exactly enough room for 2 lanes each way.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Les
()
Date: August 20, 2009 06:30PM
Bicyclists are NoVa's Amish.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
-.SBS.-
()
Date: August 20, 2009 06:56PM
extra space? Wrote:
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> what extra space? there's exactly enough room for
> 2 lanes each way.
The extra space made when they converted a 4-lane road into a 3-lane road, resulting in half a car-lane width on each side for the bike path.
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> what extra space? there's exactly enough room for
> 2 lanes each way.
The extra space made when they converted a 4-lane road into a 3-lane road, resulting in half a car-lane width on each side for the bike path.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 20, 2009 07:34PM
Les Wrote:
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> Bicyclists are NoVa's Amish.
That would make the coolest fucking bumper sticker ever.
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> Bicyclists are NoVa's Amish.
That would make the coolest fucking bumper sticker ever.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
whatsthebigdeal?
()
Date: August 20, 2009 09:46PM
I got tired of cars not sharing the road with me when I'm biking so I came up with a different strategy. I bought a used white Ford Escort and put stickers from different companies on it and a yellow flashing light on top. My girlfriend drives the "team car" when I'm biking. I pick the route I want to go and she just drives behind me with the yellow light flashing pretty much giving me my own lane on any road I want. We even got one of those headset radios so I can tell her when I'm hungry or thirsty. I'm not very fast but this way I feel like I'm leading the race and I never have to worry about cars coming up behind me. Sometimes I even ride on I-66.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
-SBS.-
()
Date: August 20, 2009 10:51PM
whatsthebigdeal? Wrote:
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> I got tired of cars not sharing the road with me
> when I'm biking so I came up with a different
> strategy. I bought a used white Ford Escort and
> put stickers from different companies on it and a
> yellow flashing light on top. My girlfriend
> drives the "team car" when I'm biking. I pick the
> route I want to go and she just drives behind me
> with the yellow light flashing pretty much giving
> me my own lane on any road I want. We even got
> one of those headset radios so I can tell her when
> I'm hungry or thirsty. I'm not very fast but this
> way I feel like I'm leading the race and I never
> have to worry about cars coming up behind me.
> Sometimes I even ride on I-66.
I call bullshit on this one. It's illegal to ride a bicycle on an interstate highway, and I'm sure VA State Police would inform you of that very quickly.
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> I got tired of cars not sharing the road with me
> when I'm biking so I came up with a different
> strategy. I bought a used white Ford Escort and
> put stickers from different companies on it and a
> yellow flashing light on top. My girlfriend
> drives the "team car" when I'm biking. I pick the
> route I want to go and she just drives behind me
> with the yellow light flashing pretty much giving
> me my own lane on any road I want. We even got
> one of those headset radios so I can tell her when
> I'm hungry or thirsty. I'm not very fast but this
> way I feel like I'm leading the race and I never
> have to worry about cars coming up behind me.
> Sometimes I even ride on I-66.
I call bullshit on this one. It's illegal to ride a bicycle on an interstate highway, and I'm sure VA State Police would inform you of that very quickly.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Capt. Obvious
()
Date: August 21, 2009 12:10AM
-SBS.- Wrote:
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> whatsthebigdeal? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I got tired of cars not sharing the road with
> me
> > when I'm biking so I came up with a different
> > strategy. I bought a used white Ford Escort
> and
> > put stickers from different companies on it and
> a
> > yellow flashing light on top. My girlfriend
> > drives the "team car" when I'm biking. I pick
> the
> > route I want to go and she just drives behind
> me
> > with the yellow light flashing pretty much
> giving
> > me my own lane on any road I want. We even got
> > one of those headset radios so I can tell her
> when
> > I'm hungry or thirsty. I'm not very fast but
> this
> > way I feel like I'm leading the race and I
> never
> > have to worry about cars coming up behind me.
> > Sometimes I even ride on I-66.
>
> I call bullshit on this one. It's illegal to ride
> a bicycle on an interstate highway, and I'm sure
> VA State Police would inform you of that very
> quickly.
It might behoove you to sign up for "Remedial Sarcasm Recognition 101" at one of the local colleges...it possibly would have saved you the trouble of responding to that post.
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> whatsthebigdeal? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I got tired of cars not sharing the road with
> me
> > when I'm biking so I came up with a different
> > strategy. I bought a used white Ford Escort
> and
> > put stickers from different companies on it and
> a
> > yellow flashing light on top. My girlfriend
> > drives the "team car" when I'm biking. I pick
> the
> > route I want to go and she just drives behind
> me
> > with the yellow light flashing pretty much
> giving
> > me my own lane on any road I want. We even got
> > one of those headset radios so I can tell her
> when
> > I'm hungry or thirsty. I'm not very fast but
> this
> > way I feel like I'm leading the race and I
> never
> > have to worry about cars coming up behind me.
> > Sometimes I even ride on I-66.
>
> I call bullshit on this one. It's illegal to ride
> a bicycle on an interstate highway, and I'm sure
> VA State Police would inform you of that very
> quickly.
It might behoove you to sign up for "Remedial Sarcasm Recognition 101" at one of the local colleges...it possibly would have saved you the trouble of responding to that post.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
RESton Peace
()
Date: August 21, 2009 01:53AM
UM... the Amish keep to themselves, and restrict their buggy activities to the most minimal possible road use at all times, during which time, they are as safe as they can be. They are friendly, courteous, and do not cause problems or arguments with pretentious demands. They understand there is an evolving world around them, and they TRY to keep their niche and still not get in anyone's way when they do. You can't stay out of the way all the time, but they try.
Comparing the degenerates this thread is about to the wonderful Amish people is a serious insult to the Amish.
Comparing the degenerates this thread is about to the wonderful Amish people is a serious insult to the Amish.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 21, 2009 06:25AM
RESton Peace Wrote:
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> Comparing the degenerates this thread is about to
> the wonderful Amish people is a serious insult to
> the Amish.
I'm sure you are referring to those whining, jealous, sorry, no-account, Tostitos-addled, pimple-popping and pig-squealing fat-boys who complain about cyclists.
By virtue of the fact that we cyclists help the environment, exercise, reduce automobile traffic congestion, and generally serve as good civic examples, we cannot be degenerates.
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> Comparing the degenerates this thread is about to
> the wonderful Amish people is a serious insult to
> the Amish.
I'm sure you are referring to those whining, jealous, sorry, no-account, Tostitos-addled, pimple-popping and pig-squealing fat-boys who complain about cyclists.
By virtue of the fact that we cyclists help the environment, exercise, reduce automobile traffic congestion, and generally serve as good civic examples, we cannot be degenerates.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: August 21, 2009 06:39AM
Reduce congestion....Like riding square in the middle of the road at 10 mph like on Sutton the other day.
Go fuck yourself without a bicycle seat.
Go fuck yourself without a bicycle seat.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 21, 2009 07:39AM
ITRADE Wrote:
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> Reduce congestion....Like riding square in the
> middle of the road at 10 mph like on Sutton the
> other day.
Slowing down reduces gasoline consumption and increases safety. Thank you for bringing up another good example!
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> Reduce congestion....Like riding square in the
> middle of the road at 10 mph like on Sutton the
> other day.
Slowing down reduces gasoline consumption and increases safety. Thank you for bringing up another good example!
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: August 21, 2009 08:48AM
10 mph actually worsens gas consumption. Optimal engine performance is in 4th or 5th gear at 45 to 60 miles an hour.
Your argument is fallacious.
Your argument is fallacious.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
4UFMD
()
Date: August 21, 2009 09:02AM
ITRADE Wrote:
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> 10 mph actually worsens gas consumption. Optimal
> engine performance is in 4th or 5th gear at 45 to
> 60 miles an hour.
>
> Your argument is fallacious.
Actually, it's true. If I got out and pushed my car around town all day while it was turned off. It would get several miles for no gallons of gas consumed! It sure would be slow, but that's what it takes to make our earth a greener place.
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> 10 mph actually worsens gas consumption. Optimal
> engine performance is in 4th or 5th gear at 45 to
> 60 miles an hour.
>
> Your argument is fallacious.
Actually, it's true. If I got out and pushed my car around town all day while it was turned off. It would get several miles for no gallons of gas consumed! It sure would be slow, but that's what it takes to make our earth a greener place.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 21, 2009 09:05AM
ITRADE Wrote:
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> 10 mph actually worsens gas consumption. Optimal
> engine performance is in 4th or 5th gear at 45 to
> 60 miles an hour.
Engine performance is not the only factor influencing fuel consumption, the bigger factor is air-resistance. Air-resistance is many times higher at 45-60 mph than at 10 mph. 10mph in 2nd gear can roughly equate to 45 mph in 4th or 5th gear in terms of rpm's, with regard to engine performance. One just need look at the tachometer. The engine doesn't know how fast the car is going - mph, it only knows how fast IT is going - rpm's.
Your argument based on engine performance fails.
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> 10 mph actually worsens gas consumption. Optimal
> engine performance is in 4th or 5th gear at 45 to
> 60 miles an hour.
Engine performance is not the only factor influencing fuel consumption, the bigger factor is air-resistance. Air-resistance is many times higher at 45-60 mph than at 10 mph. 10mph in 2nd gear can roughly equate to 45 mph in 4th or 5th gear in terms of rpm's, with regard to engine performance. One just need look at the tachometer. The engine doesn't know how fast the car is going - mph, it only knows how fast IT is going - rpm's.
Your argument based on engine performance fails.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
extra space?
()
Date: August 21, 2009 09:06AM
...so what you're saying is, all along they planned to convert 4 lanes to 3, and had absolutely no idea what to do with the extra space. Then somebody came along and said, "Hey! Great idea guys! Let's make it bicycle lanes!"
Yea, that's plausible.
-.SBS.- Wrote:
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> extra space? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > what extra space? there's exactly enough room
> for
> > 2 lanes each way.
>
> The extra space made when they converted a 4-lane
> road into a 3-lane road, resulting in half a
> car-lane width on each side for the bike path.
Yea, that's plausible.
-.SBS.- Wrote:
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> extra space? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > what extra space? there's exactly enough room
> for
> > 2 lanes each way.
>
> The extra space made when they converted a 4-lane
> road into a 3-lane road, resulting in half a
> car-lane width on each side for the bike path.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: August 21, 2009 09:07AM
4UFMD Wrote:
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> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 10 mph actually worsens gas consumption.
> Optimal
> > engine performance is in 4th or 5th gear at 45
> to
> > 60 miles an hour.
> >
> > Your argument is fallacious.
>
> Actually, it's true. If I got out and pushed my
> car around town all day while it was turned off.
> It would get several miles for no gallons of gas
> consumed! It sure would be slow, but that's what
> it takes to make our earth a greener place.
Yah, just tun the engine off and let momentum or gravitational pull take effect.
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> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 10 mph actually worsens gas consumption.
> Optimal
> > engine performance is in 4th or 5th gear at 45
> to
> > 60 miles an hour.
> >
> > Your argument is fallacious.
>
> Actually, it's true. If I got out and pushed my
> car around town all day while it was turned off.
> It would get several miles for no gallons of gas
> consumed! It sure would be slow, but that's what
> it takes to make our earth a greener place.
Yah, just tun the engine off and let momentum or gravitational pull take effect.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: August 21, 2009 09:11AM
Berdhuis Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 10 mph actually worsens gas consumption.
> Optimal
> > engine performance is in 4th or 5th gear at 45
> to
> > 60 miles an hour.
>
> Engine performance is not the only factor
> influencing fuel consumption, the bigger factor is
> air-resistance. Air-resistance is many times
> higher at 45-60 mph than at 10 mph. 10mph in 2nd
> gear can roughly equate to 45 mph in 4th or 5th
> gear in terms of rpm's, with regard to engine
> performance. One just need look at the tachometer.
> The engine doesn't know how fast the car is going
> - mph, it only knows how fast IT is going -
> rpm's.
>
> Your argument based on engine performance fails.
http://eartheasy.com/live_fuel_efficient_driving.htm
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml
What more needs to be said?
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> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 10 mph actually worsens gas consumption.
> Optimal
> > engine performance is in 4th or 5th gear at 45
> to
> > 60 miles an hour.
>
> Engine performance is not the only factor
> influencing fuel consumption, the bigger factor is
> air-resistance. Air-resistance is many times
> higher at 45-60 mph than at 10 mph. 10mph in 2nd
> gear can roughly equate to 45 mph in 4th or 5th
> gear in terms of rpm's, with regard to engine
> performance. One just need look at the tachometer.
> The engine doesn't know how fast the car is going
> - mph, it only knows how fast IT is going -
> rpm's.
>
> Your argument based on engine performance fails.
http://eartheasy.com/live_fuel_efficient_driving.htm
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml
What more needs to be said?
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
-.SBS.-
()
Date: August 21, 2009 09:53AM
extra space? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ...so what you're saying is, all along they
> planned to convert 4 lanes to 3, and had
> absolutely no idea what to do with the extra
> space. Then somebody came along and said, "Hey!
> Great idea guys! Let's make it bicycle lanes!"
>
> Yea, that's plausible.
>
Never said anything like that. I don't know what their original reason or motivation was. Simply describing how the extra space came to be.
OTOH, why is it so inplausible? I serious doubt that making bike paths had anything to do with their reason for getting rid of the 4-lane configuration.
-------------------------------------------------------
> ...so what you're saying is, all along they
> planned to convert 4 lanes to 3, and had
> absolutely no idea what to do with the extra
> space. Then somebody came along and said, "Hey!
> Great idea guys! Let's make it bicycle lanes!"
>
> Yea, that's plausible.
>
Never said anything like that. I don't know what their original reason or motivation was. Simply describing how the extra space came to be.
OTOH, why is it so inplausible? I serious doubt that making bike paths had anything to do with their reason for getting rid of the 4-lane configuration.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
-.SBS-.
()
Date: August 21, 2009 09:55AM
Berdhuis Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Engine performance is not the only factor
> influencing fuel consumption, the bigger factor is
> air-resistance. Air-resistance is many times
> higher at 45-60 mph than at 10 mph. 10mph in 2nd
> gear can roughly equate to 45 mph in 4th or 5th
> gear in terms of rpm's, with regard to engine
> performance. One just need look at the tachometer.
> The engine doesn't know how fast the car is going
> - mph, it only knows how fast IT is going -
> rpm's.
>
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Engine performance is not the only factor
> influencing fuel consumption, the bigger factor is
> air-resistance. Air-resistance is many times
> higher at 45-60 mph than at 10 mph. 10mph in 2nd
> gear can roughly equate to 45 mph in 4th or 5th
> gear in terms of rpm's, with regard to engine
> performance. One just need look at the tachometer.
> The engine doesn't know how fast the car is going
> - mph, it only knows how fast IT is going -
> rpm's.
>
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 21, 2009 12:39PM
You're missing the point, SBS. An engine's performance is not the same as an automobile's performance. Obviously a transmission will enable an automobile to travel some distance while the engine is running.
I'll accept being corrected on the relationship of speed and mpg under optimal driving conditions to allow a bell-curve that peaks at roughly 40mph, according to the graph on the previous page. It appears that this study computes the effects of wind resistance not having a signifant effect until roughly 50 mph - which is debatable. However, the point of pushing a car with the motor turned off is not lost, either. No fuel is consumed.
Regardless, the bike lanes on Lawyers Road are a good idea.
I'll accept being corrected on the relationship of speed and mpg under optimal driving conditions to allow a bell-curve that peaks at roughly 40mph, according to the graph on the previous page. It appears that this study computes the effects of wind resistance not having a signifant effect until roughly 50 mph - which is debatable. However, the point of pushing a car with the motor turned off is not lost, either. No fuel is consumed.
Regardless, the bike lanes on Lawyers Road are a good idea.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 21, 2009 12:45PM
Berdhuis Wrote:
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> By virtue of the fact that we cyclists help the
> environment, exercise, reduce automobile traffic
> congestion, and generally serve as good civic
> examples, we cannot be degenerates.
See? I pointed out in the other thread that cyclists believe they have the right to be smug pricks because they're like, totally helping compared to people in cars.
Of course, this particular brand of "aid" can only be administered while wearing a bright blue, white, and yellow spandex bike suit. Of course, don't forget the pointy bicycle helmet, scientifically engineered to be super aerodynamic and ugly as fuck.
Watch out for those micro-impacts, bro! They'll totally kill your performance on Lawyers Road after 7 hours.
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> By virtue of the fact that we cyclists help the
> environment, exercise, reduce automobile traffic
> congestion, and generally serve as good civic
> examples, we cannot be degenerates.
See? I pointed out in the other thread that cyclists believe they have the right to be smug pricks because they're like, totally helping compared to people in cars.
Of course, this particular brand of "aid" can only be administered while wearing a bright blue, white, and yellow spandex bike suit. Of course, don't forget the pointy bicycle helmet, scientifically engineered to be super aerodynamic and ugly as fuck.
Watch out for those micro-impacts, bro! They'll totally kill your performance on Lawyers Road after 7 hours.
--------------------------------------------------------------
13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 21, 2009 12:48PM
Berdhuis Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Blah blah blah
Why don't you just come out and say that you think cars would run better, faster, and cleaner if they were encased in faggoty spandex? I bet it's the road vibration that causes poor gas mileage.
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> Blah blah blah
Why don't you just come out and say that you think cars would run better, faster, and cleaner if they were encased in faggoty spandex? I bet it's the road vibration that causes poor gas mileage.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: August 21, 2009 12:58PM
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: August 21, 2009 01:02PM
Berdhuis, you're a U2 fan aren't you? I bet you also shop exclusively at Whole Foods because buying organic is being a good civic example. I'm sure you also have a Free Tibet sticker on your hybrid.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 21, 2009 01:08PM
eesh Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Berdhuis, you're a U2 fan aren't you? I bet you
> also shop exclusively at Whole Foods because
> buying organic is being a good civic example. I'm
> sure you also have a Free Tibet sticker on your
> hybrid.
Dude probably signs online petitions all the time, but has never made a micro-loan to a 3rd world country.
--------------------------------------------------------------
13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Berdhuis, you're a U2 fan aren't you? I bet you
> also shop exclusively at Whole Foods because
> buying organic is being a good civic example. I'm
> sure you also have a Free Tibet sticker on your
> hybrid.
Dude probably signs online petitions all the time, but has never made a micro-loan to a 3rd world country.
--------------------------------------------------------------
13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
-.SBS.-
()
Date: August 21, 2009 01:20PM
Berdhuis Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I'll accept being corrected on the relationship of
> speed and mpg under optimal driving conditions to
> allow a bell-curve that peaks at roughly 40mph,
> according to the graph on the previous page. It
> appears that this study computes the effects of
> wind resistance not having a signifant effect
> until roughly 50 mph - which is debatable.
>
There's nothing debatable about it. Effects of wind resistance were not computed in the curve at all. It's simple MPG measurement at various speeds. There are numerous factors that create resistance to a car's motion other than air resistance. Air resistance is not a major factor relative to some of the others until speed is substantially higher than 10 mph.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I'll accept being corrected on the relationship of
> speed and mpg under optimal driving conditions to
> allow a bell-curve that peaks at roughly 40mph,
> according to the graph on the previous page. It
> appears that this study computes the effects of
> wind resistance not having a signifant effect
> until roughly 50 mph - which is debatable.
>
There's nothing debatable about it. Effects of wind resistance were not computed in the curve at all. It's simple MPG measurement at various speeds. There are numerous factors that create resistance to a car's motion other than air resistance. Air resistance is not a major factor relative to some of the others until speed is substantially higher than 10 mph.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 21, 2009 01:32PM
-.SBS.- Wrote:
> There's nothing debatable about it. Effects of
> wind resistance were not computed in the curve at
> all. It's simple MPG measurement at various
> speeds. There are numerous factors that create
> resistance to a car's motion other than air
> resistance. Air resistance is not a major factor
> relative to some of the others until speed is
> substantially higher than 10 mph.
Do you think momentum is a contributing factor to increased mpg up to 40 mph?
> There's nothing debatable about it. Effects of
> wind resistance were not computed in the curve at
> all. It's simple MPG measurement at various
> speeds. There are numerous factors that create
> resistance to a car's motion other than air
> resistance. Air resistance is not a major factor
> relative to some of the others until speed is
> substantially higher than 10 mph.
Do you think momentum is a contributing factor to increased mpg up to 40 mph?
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Faggot
()
Date: August 21, 2009 01:38PM
“Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table, I have no interest in doing it.”
>
> Dude probably signs online petitions all the time,
> but has never made a micro-loan to a 3rd world
> country.
Attachments:
>
> Dude probably signs online petitions all the time,
> but has never made a micro-loan to a 3rd world
> country.
Attachments:
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 21, 2009 01:54PM
Faggot Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> “Trying to have a conversation with you would be
> like trying to argue with a dining room table, I
> have no interest in doing it.”
>
>
>
> >
> > Dude probably signs online petitions all the
> time,
> > but has never made a micro-loan to a 3rd world
> > country.
I see that you're so unoriginal, you have to refer to the Barney Frank book of insults.
Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to tell a cyclist that their faggoty spandex doesn't really do anything, much like a spoiler on the back of a '98 Honda Civic. However, I have an interest in doing so, because you're a retard and I'm not.
See? That wasn't so hard.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
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> “Trying to have a conversation with you would be
> like trying to argue with a dining room table, I
> have no interest in doing it.”
>
>
>
> >
> > Dude probably signs online petitions all the
> time,
> > but has never made a micro-loan to a 3rd world
> > country.
I see that you're so unoriginal, you have to refer to the Barney Frank book of insults.
Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to tell a cyclist that their faggoty spandex doesn't really do anything, much like a spoiler on the back of a '98 Honda Civic. However, I have an interest in doing so, because you're a retard and I'm not.
See? That wasn't so hard.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 21, 2009 02:00PM
eesh Wrote:
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> Berdhuis, you're a U2 fan aren't you? I bet you
> also shop exclusively at Whole Foods because
> buying organic is being a good civic example. I'm
> sure you also have a Free Tibet sticker on your
> hybrid.
Yes, no and no. I think that you're jealous, though....
Attachments:
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> Berdhuis, you're a U2 fan aren't you? I bet you
> also shop exclusively at Whole Foods because
> buying organic is being a good civic example. I'm
> sure you also have a Free Tibet sticker on your
> hybrid.
Yes, no and no. I think that you're jealous, though....
Attachments:
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Faggot
()
Date: August 21, 2009 02:07PM
So, to sum up: I know you are but what am I?
MrMephisto Wrote:
>
> I see that you're so unoriginal, you have to refer
> to the Barney Frank book of insults.
>
> Trying to have a conversation with you would be
> like trying to tell a cyclist that their faggoty
> spandex doesn't really do anything, much like a
> spoiler on the back of a '98 Honda Civic.
> However, I have an interest in doing so, because
> you're a retard and I'm not.
>
> See? That wasn't so hard.
MrMephisto Wrote:
>
> I see that you're so unoriginal, you have to refer
> to the Barney Frank book of insults.
>
> Trying to have a conversation with you would be
> like trying to tell a cyclist that their faggoty
> spandex doesn't really do anything, much like a
> spoiler on the back of a '98 Honda Civic.
> However, I have an interest in doing so, because
> you're a retard and I'm not.
>
> See? That wasn't so hard.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 21, 2009 02:09PM
Faggot Wrote:
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> So, to sum up: I know you are but what am I?
A faggot, obviously.
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> So, to sum up: I know you are but what am I?
A faggot, obviously.
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Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Faggot
()
Date: August 21, 2009 02:13PM
Well, hopefully somebody else didn't miss the point.
MrMephisto Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Faggot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So, to sum up: I know you are but what am I?
>
> A faggot, obviously.
MrMephisto Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Faggot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So, to sum up: I know you are but what am I?
>
> A faggot, obviously.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
-.SBS.-
()
Date: August 21, 2009 02:36PM
I honestly don't know what effect momentum has on mpg.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
-.SBS.-
()
Date: August 21, 2009 02:46PM
Berdhuis Wrote:
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>
> Do you think momentum is a contributing factor to
> increased mpg up to 40 mph?
Correction, at first glance, I would have to guess that the net effect of momentum on mileage would be negative. Since momentum is directly proportional to the vehicle's weight, and all else being equal, a lighter vehicle will get better mileage.
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>
> Do you think momentum is a contributing factor to
> increased mpg up to 40 mph?
Correction, at first glance, I would have to guess that the net effect of momentum on mileage would be negative. Since momentum is directly proportional to the vehicle's weight, and all else being equal, a lighter vehicle will get better mileage.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
VxEGG
()
Date: August 21, 2009 03:08PM
-.SBS.- Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Berdhuis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Do you think momentum is a contributing factor
> to
> > increased mpg up to 40 mph?
>
> Correction, at first glance, I would have to guess
> that the net effect of momentum on mileage would
> be negative. Since momentum is directly
> proportional to the vehicle's weight, and all else
> being equal, a lighter vehicle will get better
> mileage.
A less massive vehicle will have less momentum, thus travel a shorter distance, making less mileage. Smaller vehicles require much less power to reach the same speeds though.
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> Berdhuis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Do you think momentum is a contributing factor
> to
> > increased mpg up to 40 mph?
>
> Correction, at first glance, I would have to guess
> that the net effect of momentum on mileage would
> be negative. Since momentum is directly
> proportional to the vehicle's weight, and all else
> being equal, a lighter vehicle will get better
> mileage.
A less massive vehicle will have less momentum, thus travel a shorter distance, making less mileage. Smaller vehicles require much less power to reach the same speeds though.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
dumbell
()
Date: August 21, 2009 04:16PM
-SBS.- Wrote:
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> whatsthebigdeal? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I got tired of cars not sharing the road with
> me
> > when I'm biking so I came up with a different
> > strategy. I bought a used white Ford Escort
> and
> > put stickers from different companies on it and
> a
> > yellow flashing light on top. My girlfriend
> > drives the "team car" when I'm biking. I pick
> the
> > route I want to go and she just drives behind
> me
> > with the yellow light flashing pretty much
> giving
> > me my own lane on any road I want. We even got
> > one of those headset radios so I can tell her
> when
> > I'm hungry or thirsty. I'm not very fast but
> this
> > way I feel like I'm leading the race and I
> never
> > have to worry about cars coming up behind me.
> > Sometimes I even ride on I-66.
>
> I call bullshit on this one. It's illegal to ride
> a bicycle on an interstate highway, and I'm sure
> VA State Police would inform you of that very
> quickly.
WOW -SBS-, you are really, really sharp.
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> whatsthebigdeal? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I got tired of cars not sharing the road with
> me
> > when I'm biking so I came up with a different
> > strategy. I bought a used white Ford Escort
> and
> > put stickers from different companies on it and
> a
> > yellow flashing light on top. My girlfriend
> > drives the "team car" when I'm biking. I pick
> the
> > route I want to go and she just drives behind
> me
> > with the yellow light flashing pretty much
> giving
> > me my own lane on any road I want. We even got
> > one of those headset radios so I can tell her
> when
> > I'm hungry or thirsty. I'm not very fast but
> this
> > way I feel like I'm leading the race and I
> never
> > have to worry about cars coming up behind me.
> > Sometimes I even ride on I-66.
>
> I call bullshit on this one. It's illegal to ride
> a bicycle on an interstate highway, and I'm sure
> VA State Police would inform you of that very
> quickly.
WOW -SBS-, you are really, really sharp.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
AASAS
()
Date: August 21, 2009 04:17PM
RESton Peace Wrote:
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> UM... the Amish keep to themselves, and restrict
> their buggy activities to the most minimal
> possible road use at all times, during which time,
> they are as safe as they can be. They are
> friendly, courteous, and do not cause problems or
> arguments with pretentious demands. They
> understand there is an evolving world around them,
> and they TRY to keep their niche and still not get
> in anyone's way when they do. You can't stay out
> of the way all the time, but they try.
>
> Comparing the degenerates this thread is about to
> the wonderful Amish people is a serious insult to
> the Amish.
Amish are stubborn and stingy.
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> UM... the Amish keep to themselves, and restrict
> their buggy activities to the most minimal
> possible road use at all times, during which time,
> they are as safe as they can be. They are
> friendly, courteous, and do not cause problems or
> arguments with pretentious demands. They
> understand there is an evolving world around them,
> and they TRY to keep their niche and still not get
> in anyone's way when they do. You can't stay out
> of the way all the time, but they try.
>
> Comparing the degenerates this thread is about to
> the wonderful Amish people is a serious insult to
> the Amish.
Amish are stubborn and stingy.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
EVan
()
Date: August 21, 2009 04:22PM
Berdhuis Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Berdhuis, you're a U2 fan aren't you? I bet you
> > also shop exclusively at Whole Foods because
> > buying organic is being a good civic example.
> I'm
> > sure you also have a Free Tibet sticker on your
> > hybrid.
>
> Yes, no and no. I think that you're jealous,
> though....
Berdhuis, you are funny.
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Berdhuis, you're a U2 fan aren't you? I bet you
> > also shop exclusively at Whole Foods because
> > buying organic is being a good civic example.
> I'm
> > sure you also have a Free Tibet sticker on your
> > hybrid.
>
> Yes, no and no. I think that you're jealous,
> though....
Berdhuis, you are funny.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
-.SBS.-
()
Date: August 21, 2009 11:03PM
dumbell Wrote:
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>
> WOW -SBS-, you are really, really sharp.
Thank you.
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>
> WOW -SBS-, you are really, really sharp.
Thank you.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
KittyLitter
()
Date: August 21, 2009 11:07PM
Arguing on the internets is like the Special Olympics.
Even if you win, you're still fucking retarded.
Even if you win, you're still fucking retarded.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 21, 2009 11:57PM
KittyLitter Wrote:
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> Arguing on the internets is like the Special
> Olympics.
>
> Even if you win, you're still fucking retarded.
That's really catchy. Did you come up with that yourself?
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> Arguing on the internets is like the Special
> Olympics.
>
> Even if you win, you're still fucking retarded.
That's really catchy. Did you come up with that yourself?
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Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Thurston Moore
()
Date: August 22, 2009 02:14AM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> KittyLitter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Arguing on the internets is like the Special
> > Olympics.
> >
> > Even if you win, you're still fucking retarded.
>
> That's really catchy. Did you come up with that
> yourself?
If this was my first day on teh intawebz, I could say that this was the first time I'd ever heard that line.
I'd also probably not know about Godwin's law. Which is probably going to be proven in this thread in no short order.
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> KittyLitter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Arguing on the internets is like the Special
> > Olympics.
> >
> > Even if you win, you're still fucking retarded.
>
> That's really catchy. Did you come up with that
> yourself?
If this was my first day on teh intawebz, I could say that this was the first time I'd ever heard that line.
I'd also probably not know about Godwin's law. Which is probably going to be proven in this thread in no short order.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
bloody blisters
()
Date: August 22, 2009 02:37AM
Godwin's law?? what are you some kind of jew hating nazi?
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Thurston Moore
()
Date: August 22, 2009 03:00AM
bloody blisters Wrote:
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> Godwin's law?? what are you some kind of jew
> hating nazi?
No, I'm a nazi hating jew.
wait. Maybe I'm a hating jew who loves nazis.
fuck, I'm not really sure. I think I'm a LOLzCat that hates intarwebz nazis.
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> Godwin's law?? what are you some kind of jew
> hating nazi?
No, I'm a nazi hating jew.
wait. Maybe I'm a hating jew who loves nazis.
fuck, I'm not really sure. I think I'm a LOLzCat that hates intarwebz nazis.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 22, 2009 10:09AM
Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > KittyLitter Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Arguing on the internets is like the Special
> > > Olympics.
> > >
> > > Even if you win, you're still fucking
> retarded.
> >
> > That's really catchy. Did you come up with
> that
> > yourself?
>
> If this was my first day on teh intawebz, I could
> say that this was the first time I'd ever heard
> that line.
>
> I'd also probably not know about Godwin's law.
> Which is probably going to be proven in this
> thread in no short order.
Dude, you need to take your ass on over to Amazon.com and buy yourself a sarcasm detector.
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > KittyLitter Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Arguing on the internets is like the Special
> > > Olympics.
> > >
> > > Even if you win, you're still fucking
> retarded.
> >
> > That's really catchy. Did you come up with
> that
> > yourself?
>
> If this was my first day on teh intawebz, I could
> say that this was the first time I'd ever heard
> that line.
>
> I'd also probably not know about Godwin's law.
> Which is probably going to be proven in this
> thread in no short order.
Dude, you need to take your ass on over to Amazon.com and buy yourself a sarcasm detector.
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Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 22, 2009 10:32AM
EVan Wrote:
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> Berdhuis, you are funny.
Happy to put a smile on your face, EVan.
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> Berdhuis, you are funny.
Happy to put a smile on your face, EVan.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: August 23, 2009 01:19AM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Dude, you need to take your ass on over to
> Amazon.com and buy yourself a sarcasm detector.
oh, now you are forcing people to go to amazon.com like it's some sort of concentration camp? sounds like something the nazis would do.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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> Dude, you need to take your ass on over to
> Amazon.com and buy yourself a sarcasm detector.
oh, now you are forcing people to go to amazon.com like it's some sort of concentration camp? sounds like something the nazis would do.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Crash'em
()
Date: August 23, 2009 08:24PM
Looks like someone took out a good chunk of the hill around the curve by the church. Pretty sure the car had to have been totalled.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 23, 2009 08:55PM
Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101 miles!
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Truck Driver
()
Date: August 23, 2009 09:14PM
Berdhuis Wrote:
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> Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston
> to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on
> a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101
> miles!
Nobody noticed. Did any cyclist get run over by cars?
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> Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston
> to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on
> a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101
> miles!
Nobody noticed. Did any cyclist get run over by cars?
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Cyclist
()
Date: August 23, 2009 10:01PM
I was there--had a great ride!
Berdhuis Wrote:
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> Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston
> to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on
> a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101
> miles!
Berdhuis Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston
> to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on
> a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101
> miles!
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
SPoke
()
Date: August 23, 2009 10:58PM
Berdhuis Wrote:
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> Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston
> to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on
> a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101
> miles!
I just hope you stopped at the damn stop signs.
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> Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston
> to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on
> a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101
> miles!
I just hope you stopped at the damn stop signs.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: August 24, 2009 12:45AM
Berdhuis Wrote:
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> Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston
> to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on
> a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101
> miles!
I wish I had known about this. I would have had an "accident."
.
Attachments:
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> Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston
> to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on
> a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101
> miles!
I wish I had known about this. I would have had an "accident."
.
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Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 24, 2009 09:42AM
Proof that cyclists care less about fitness and the environment and more about being complete dicks:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/24/BA3F19BSIS.DTL
We need one of our Mensa-grade bicycle scientists to explain to the bumpkins on the west coast about road vibration and micro-impacts. These guys are killing their performance after 7 hours by riding on the sidewalk! Will nobody help them?
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/24/BA3F19BSIS.DTL
We need one of our Mensa-grade bicycle scientists to explain to the bumpkins on the west coast about road vibration and micro-impacts. These guys are killing their performance after 7 hours by riding on the sidewalk! Will nobody help them?
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Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Cyclist
()
Date: August 24, 2009 09:52AM
Hmm, I read that article and only saw proof that there was an ineffective sign that was too small and placed too high. Besides, I thought you wanted cyclists to ride on the sidewalk? Interesting to see you're trolling the San Francisco chronicle. Probably the classifieds. Closet homosexual?
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 24, 2009 09:53AM
Cyclist Wrote:
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> I was there--had a great ride!
Good deal! The hills were tough - challenging ride for sure.
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> I was there--had a great ride!
Good deal! The hills were tough - challenging ride for sure.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 24, 2009 09:55AM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> We need one of our Mensa-grade bicycle scientists
> to explain to the bumpkins on the west coast about
> road vibration and micro-impacts. These guys are
> killing their performance after 7 hours by riding
> on the sidewalk! Will nobody help them?
Will nobody help you?
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> We need one of our Mensa-grade bicycle scientists
> to explain to the bumpkins on the west coast about
> road vibration and micro-impacts. These guys are
> killing their performance after 7 hours by riding
> on the sidewalk! Will nobody help them?
Will nobody help you?
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Flamey
()
Date: August 24, 2009 09:55AM
Cyclist were you guys head to the Gay Games downtown?
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 24, 2009 10:04AM
Cyclist Wrote:
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> Hmm, I read that article and only saw proof that
> there was an ineffective sign that was too small
> and placed too high. Besides, I thought you
> wanted cyclists to ride on the sidewalk?
> Interesting to see you're trolling the San
> Francisco chronicle. Probably the classifieds.
> Closet homosexual?
Further proof of the dickness of cyclists. I'll type slow and in BIG LETTERS so you understand the basic tenets of commom courtesy.
When there are A LOT OF PEOPLE on the SIDEWALK and the STREET is EMPTY, then it's better to ride on the street.
When there is A LOT OF TRAFFIC in the STREET and the SIDEWALKS are EMPTY, then it's better to ride on the sidewalk.
Of course, cyclists think they're entitled to do whatever they want as long as they do it in a spandex suit, so it's no surprise that they need signs to guide them on how to be considerate to others. I find it hard to believe that they aren't seeing the sign, since cyclists are usually so self absorbed that they'd be proud to point out, "That sign's about me! I'm awesome! I totally made an impact on my community!"
And yes, I stumbled across this article when I was browsing the SF Chronicle for gay sex opportunities. In San Francisco. While I live in NOVA. Because my dick is that long.
Edit: Forgot to capitalize some stuff; in re-reading it, I wasn't sure it was clear enough.
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> Hmm, I read that article and only saw proof that
> there was an ineffective sign that was too small
> and placed too high. Besides, I thought you
> wanted cyclists to ride on the sidewalk?
> Interesting to see you're trolling the San
> Francisco chronicle. Probably the classifieds.
> Closet homosexual?
Further proof of the dickness of cyclists. I'll type slow and in BIG LETTERS so you understand the basic tenets of commom courtesy.
When there are A LOT OF PEOPLE on the SIDEWALK and the STREET is EMPTY, then it's better to ride on the street.
When there is A LOT OF TRAFFIC in the STREET and the SIDEWALKS are EMPTY, then it's better to ride on the sidewalk.
Of course, cyclists think they're entitled to do whatever they want as long as they do it in a spandex suit, so it's no surprise that they need signs to guide them on how to be considerate to others. I find it hard to believe that they aren't seeing the sign, since cyclists are usually so self absorbed that they'd be proud to point out, "That sign's about me! I'm awesome! I totally made an impact on my community!"
And yes, I stumbled across this article when I was browsing the SF Chronicle for gay sex opportunities. In San Francisco. While I live in NOVA. Because my dick is that long.
Edit: Forgot to capitalize some stuff; in re-reading it, I wasn't sure it was clear enough.
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Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: August 24, 2009 10:08AM
Maybe some concertina wire stretched across the sidewalk...
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
A Troll
()
Date: August 24, 2009 05:07PM
Berdhuis Wrote:
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> Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston
> to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on
> a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101
> miles!
Sounds like a bunch of self-absorbed, inconsiderate dumbasses making life miserable for everyone else trying to use the W&OD trail. Glad I was out of town.
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> Did anyone notice all of the cyclists from Reston
> to Loudoun county today? There were 1500 of us on
> a glorious day of riding - many even rode 101
> miles!
Sounds like a bunch of self-absorbed, inconsiderate dumbasses making life miserable for everyone else trying to use the W&OD trail. Glad I was out of town.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Smash
()
Date: August 24, 2009 05:12PM
Really have to enjoy how cyclists pick and choose which rules apply to them.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Troll Feeder
()
Date: August 24, 2009 05:15PM
I agree. "Passing on the left!" Thanks! You know, normally I like to walk zig zag all over the path, but since you warned me, I'll continue in a straight line! Thanks for sparing me my life!
Now learn that the same rule applies when driving. Move your slow ass Prius over to the right, so people going the appropriate speed can pass on the left.
Now learn that the same rule applies when driving. Move your slow ass Prius over to the right, so people going the appropriate speed can pass on the left.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: August 24, 2009 07:04PM
Interesting point. When you're on the WOD, they'll scream at you because you don't move to the right far enough or quick enough for their road race.
At the same time, they say they're entitled to bike 10 mph down the center of a road - tying up traffic and making a general nuisance. But they're conserving energy.
At the same time, they say they're entitled to bike 10 mph down the center of a road - tying up traffic and making a general nuisance. But they're conserving energy.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: August 24, 2009 07:52PM
Before this thread, I only had a theory that people who ride bicycles are assholes. Now, it's more like science-fact.
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Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: August 24, 2009 09:57PM
Smash Wrote:
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> Really have to enjoy how cyclists pick and choose
> which rules apply to them.
Me too.
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> Really have to enjoy how cyclists pick and choose
> which rules apply to them.
Me too.
Re: Let the Accidents Begin - 4 Lane Lawyers Rd Shrunk to One Lane
Posted by:
BryanVIE
()
Date: September 11, 2009 08:04PM
New resident. Employee interaction, Provided a " Back Way" to circumnavigate traffic. Wonderfull ride AND scenic. Bike path fatal. Seasoned route takers more stressed, which is what "WE" were trying to get away from!!!!!!, Bike lane ends @ the merge to 2 lane traffic requiring a daredevil attitude or cutting across on Soapstone, again, crossing traffic. Who paid for this? I would have to believe YOU! Who does it benefit?, **answer here** YOU TELL ME!!!